Let's explore a Hollow Knight iceberg

[@armandotf2]

Oh hell nah mot my son.

[@adaintywaffle71]

mot

[@landoflands3124]

Mot

[@nightwatch3889]

Mot

[@daniel-xy5mg]

mot

[@notspiko]

Mot

[@aaronking2020]

"There is infectious air." Zote: Don't breathe. "Dreams will infect you." Zote: Don't dream.

[@ConstrictorDevlin]

SUN GODDESSES HATE HIM! This bug managed to avoid infection with 2 simple tricks!

[@darielvillatoro8365]

big brain

[@杀手菜鸟]

Moths hate this one trick

[@InsanePigeon]

Clearly Zote should be the hollow knight

[@e2b265]

@@InsanePigeon Nah. Precept 49: Never get locked in an egg temple in chains in order to contain the orange goop that causes the apocalypse.

[@theflatsixth]

In an alternate universe: Mossbag: Here we see sketches for a version of the aspid that shoots three orbs instead of one. This would be terrible, so I'm glad it wasn't added into the game.

[@CFjimmy]

If only...

[@Vee_Sheep]

when i first found Primal Aspids in Kingdom's Edge, i thought "people are exaggerating how bad these guys are" and then i was dealing with several of them... and then i was dealing with several of them while retrying the Colosseum of Fools over and over... and then i understood

[@coolremedy6969]

It would also take several hits to kill, and masterfully maintain its distance while staying in firing range. That sounds ridiculous, so I can see how this one never made it past the concept phase.

[@theflatsixth]

@@coolremedy6969 Lol true

[@marcellofp7465]

It would be heaven

[@GippyHappy]

HK fandom: "Team Cherry please tell us about the lion village" Team Cherry: "There are lions" HK fandom: (crying) _"...Thank you"_

[@perodactyl490]

I'm imagining beetle from skyward sword saying "thank you"

[@lamegourd5260]

HK fandom: “Also, while I’ve got you here, any updates on silksong?” Team Cherry:

[@wolven122]

@Arcana zero Studios 10000 lions

[@AbzoneGaming]

@Arcana zero Studios none, Zote the Mighty would though!

[@Hard2Place]

@@perodactyl490 is it the same voice line from wind waker bc that one is absolute gold

[@SonicHaXD]

I never knew about the "Abyss Theme at 500% speed", got goosebumps listening to that XD

[@mr.raphael1507]

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one

[@nightwatch3889]

I just went there to listen to it and it's so creepy

[@nelsonmarvelutama5171]

AAAAAaaaAAAAAaaaAAAAAaaa..

[@curseofbinding]

Kinda like omori's 'something' but the opposite effect lol

[@Saltience]

God I wouldn't be able to stand the abyss at all if that was the default music. Gives off that whole "Things are crawling up your back" vibe.

[@SickkNøVa]

Please give Mossbag silksong before it's too late, he's falling into madness

[@roasted.cheese]

exactly

[@coolio6855]

I mean he made an actual video, he's clearly losing it.

[@varvarith3090]

Relatable.

[@pepi7404]

It's going to be like in a move. As he's mining the last shred of content from Hollow Knight, the whole community is watching him with tears in their eyes. He edits the video, gives us one final thumbs up and presses upload as his sanity reserves drop to 0%. The music cuts out. All you hear is a heart beat that gets slower. He closes his eyes. Darkness. And then, bam. A thunderclap rips the clouds asunder and William Pellen shoots down from the sky on moth wings. He catches Mossbag, they embrace each other, William hands him a copy of Sillsong and Mossbag asks "does it ... have ... buzz saws?". "Yes ..." answers William, a tear running down his cheek "... more than you can count."

[@mossbag69]

@@pepi7404 what the fuck

[@mrtortoise3766]

I like how the newspaper editor felt the need to not only add in the knight just floating there but also add a shadow for it

[@lusalar4463]

the knight wasnt added,he was always there

[@apenasumabatata4741]

@@lusalar4463 The truth is that the picture was actually meant to be of the Knight, and they just decided to add William and Ari in there cuz why not

[@prizedbenchreloadedandextreme]

Where?

[@Birbzz]

@@prizedbenchreloadedandextreme 26:40

[@prizedbenchreloadedandextreme]

@@Birbzz thx

[@basiawojcik3407]

The "I made this iceberg" gave me the same vibe as "there is no fridge"

[@aturchomicz821]

_But what if you close your eyes-_

[@charliecadet]

same vibes as the shapeland reveal

[@Vonias]

"Viewers I haven't been honest with you... I WAS THE ONE WHO BOUGHT THE MCDONALDS EMPLOYEE TRAINING GAME!!!"

[@emirikyuu7308]

@@charliecadet bro i was thinking the same exact thing

[@Masterofcandy4]

“I LIED!”

[@Epic_747]

mossbag: asks for details about the lions village. Team cherry: full of lions. I love team cherry even more now.

[@Vonias]

If only they were as transparent about Silksong as they were about the Lion Village.

[@sandorrclegane2307]

Fan: Is there a reason why the Pale King is dead in the White Palace? Team Cherry: Yes

[@achairwithinternetaccess996]

@@sandorrclegane2307 Fan: ok, but why? Team Cherry: because he died

[@lelinskok8923]

@@Vonias mossbag: Any detail about Silksong? Team Cherry: There will be silk there. Songs too.

[@gamingmoyai3950]

@@achairwithinternetaccess996 Fan: but why did he die? Team Cherry: he died.

[@bentonic4998]

Zote is the only person ever helped by the idea of "facing depression? just take a walk and feel better!!" He is simply built different.

[@kaschey6145]

Actually, there might be a very simple explanation for the non-euclidean room in White Palace. What if the entire place is just... circled? You know, like a spiral. After all, we can't see it in 2D perspective if the knight turns left or right from his own view.

[@CutMeSomeSlackTheVII]

good thinking

[@abd-animation-22]

Nice thinking

[@acblook]

adequate thinking

[@interstellergrapefruit]

Decent thinking

[@juaniche]

Intricate thinking

[@Vee_Sheep]

mossbag: "the Knight can sit on the Pale King's throne and the game plays a secret song" Matpat: _write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN_

[@liinnder]

San's is ness all over again

[@WilloWik]

I feel so bad for the guy. There are just some games you can't theorize about thanks to the fans being so cutthroat about the lore. The same thing happened with a science theory about assasin’s creed and I was so frustrated. Guy’s just trying to make fun theories...

[@Vee_Sheep]

@@liinnder more like "GAME THEORY: THE KNIGHT is the PALE KING pt. 2 (Things we missed)"

[@Vee_Sheep]

@@WilloWik personally, i genuinely dont think that "they're just fun theories" makes that show immune to criticism and scrutiny but if its any consolation, i have 0 ill will to Matpat or Game Theory fans. i dont like the show, but i kinda just like jabbing at it sometimes, and im definitely against Matpat getting death threats or dislike bombed for making content hes passionate about

[@BunsGlazing768]

@@WilloWik mmm... too be fair, it was a pretty shoddy theory. I do think some people took it waaaay too far with their criticism but the guy really did just come in, announce some hairbrained nonesense which totally disrespects a large portion of the content found in the game, and leave. It was a bad move from both parties in this case.

[@hephaestus8266]

8:21 “Heart” is capitalized in that sign. It is possible that “Hallownest’s Heart is the actual name of the city.

[@gelatinousjoe7979]

That is actually very logical, and why not? Everything else has an extremely straightforward name.

[@skelomemer]

wait that actually makes a lot of sense

[@shlrup6154]

I really like the idea that the jellyfish hold back the infection, because of the added metroid reference, because metroids were also created to fight desease.

[@theimpostorafungus1213]

more specifically they were made to fight off the X parasite and then were later used to make a vaccine that saved samus from said parasite

[@LordTactusMe]

Also jellyfish are not affected by the polluted waters.

[@lmjholland]

You can get unique weather underground, han song doon in Vietnam is so large it has its own weather system, so it is feasible that hollow knight is set in a similar setting (Edit: spelling)

[@mossbag69]

Interesting!

[@chrismoustakis4500]

That's actually very cool, but I've never seen anyone spell feasible as pheasable before, lmaoo

[@flytheburger2182]

@@chrismoustakis4500 wait how to you spell feasible?

[@lmjholland]

Oops, my phone didn't autocorrect it so I assumed it was fine!

[@TheRealRustyIsHere]

@@flytheburger2182 (Sarcasm) You just spelt it, like bruh

[@forge4273]

5:45 "does this mean the hunter fought the radiance at some point??" *shows the hunters journal text confirming the hunter has no idea what the radiance is*

[@ziwuri]

But it's still kind of strange that there's text under an entry for the Radiance.

[@lusalar4463]

i always assume that the hunters journal lets the hunter know what we kill,thats why he talks in misterious ways about some characters@@ziwuri

[@ziwuri]

I like that theory@@lusalar4463

[@GeneralTaco155555a]

​@@lusalar4463 That was my interpretation as well since the entries are very conversational sounding, as if the Hunter is speaking to the Knight. Maybe lorewise, the knight just goes back to visit the Hunter every once in a while and tell him about its kills Another good theory could be that the Hunter just has very loose text only notes that the Knight not only had to translate, but figure out what creatures he was talking about. Because you only figure out what he's talking about from experience fighting these creatures, maybe his notes on the Radiance were just speculating about what could have caused the infection, and the Knight is essentially labeling that entry as "The Radiance"

[@extremepayne]

I mean, several journal entries (brooding mawlek and collector iirc) directly state that the Hunter has never encountered those enemies

[@pileofcheese5017]

about the Willoh-GT connection: as soon as Brumm/Nym leaves the grimm troupe (because it doesn't exist anymore) he loses all of his memories. this could be what happened to Willoh

[@alyzeaaa]

That's a good obsevration

[@nightmare4lol]

A brilliant deduction

[@bell2023]

That makes a lot of sense

[@mort3562]

Outstanding reasoning

[@peksix2173]

Impeccable assessment

[@m.s.e.advanced2842]

The iceberg will have melted by the time we get Silksong

[@thedastardlylizard5944]

Actually it's set to release in 3 months

[@madelyn7753]

@@thedastardlylizard5944 proof

[@reformedorthodoxmunmanquara]

@@madelyn7753 Source: Trust me bro

[@madelyn7753]

@@reformedorthodoxmunmanquara it be like that

[@SickkNøVa]

@@thedastardlylizard5944 source: Millibelle"

[@It-Will-All-Be-Okay-I-Promise]

13:17 Given the shape of the nails littering the trail to his house, and the fact that there’s only a couple characters small enough to be mixed up with the knight, I think it’s probably Sly. He seems like the only person who’d have all those comically large nails to be honed for use, maybe to give to his students as they use similar looking nails.

[@izthistle6196]

So that’s where all the geo went to

[@benblack5126]

I always thought it was husk guards paying for a sharpening.

[@vukovii]

i assumed it was one of the brothers, mato or oro, but this makes more sense lol

[@potatooverlord-avacado7218]

I always thought it was hornet trying to honour hallownest's infected but I think that's mainly because I met her in city of tears

[@Techischannel]

That Sly shopkeep, so he is the reason!

[@phoenixman4510]

To me, the Nailsmith was always implying the infected soldiers still brought their nails to him. Quirrel says their training won't have been forgotten, and we see they still patrol the streets the same way they did in life. So it would make sense that they still take their nails to the Nailsmith regularly out of mindless habit like they used to. And Nailsmith just thinks we're one of these soldiers. Or at least that's how I see it.

[@drsmarty6619]

Honestly that seems like a good explanation to me.

[@Crusader4Eternity]

Why would the husks not be hostile to him though? Doesn't the infection cause you to attack anything that is not infected?

[@drsmarty6619]

@@Crusader4Eternity That's true because of how Myla attacks the Player later on. I don't know then.

[@mlemmlem9690]

Honestly I thought he was talking about Quirrel

[@phoenixman4510]

@@Crusader4Eternity I suppose that is a good point. But unless he has some other client(s) we're not aware of, the city soldiers are the only things I can think of. I suppose the only reason they don't attack him is that habitual thing of going to him, leaving their nail and going back to patrol? But that doesn't entirely explain it, so I don't really know why they don't attack him.

[@eleanorcerar6273]

The melody that plays on the Pale King's throne isn't just the vessel theme. Underlaid as a counterpoint melody, you can also hear the Pale King's theme (the first thing you hear as you see the Elegy text at the game's start). The two are seamlessly woven together, and I for one take it as Christopher Larkin once again proving himself as a musical-storytelling genius. The Knight is now the new King of Hallownest after receiving the King's Brand, and this melody all but states that explicitly.

[@TheAdvertisement]

I was gonna comment that but you beat me to it! Such a cool blend of those two motifs.

[@KaiserCeaser]

Yeah the white lady theme and Hornets theme are also both variations of the theme as well

[@wizardofarts1276]

5:38 I'd like to imagine that the prey in question decided to autograph the journal and write their final words before we ended them

[@HeyYouFromThatGame]

"Oh no! I'm going to die! Wait, let me write my autograph in that exquisite book you have..."

[@goldenyak629]

Weather systems _can_ form in caves, if the caves are large enough. Also, this is a world where giant wyrm corpses can be the source of strong winds, so the weather in Land of Storms might also be generated by the Gods of Thunder and Rain, even if they're dead. Personally, I like the idea that Dirtmouth is underground. Because everything is underground. This world has no surface. It's just underground bug kingdoms forever.

[@stillmorereviews9114]

I enjoy the idea that the entire history of the game, and the game itself, takes place in the course of a week under someone’s backyard

[@blakeworthvv]

my "theory" (more of an opinion cuz i dont have proof) is that dirtmouth is just the "surface" for the bugs, that doesnt mean its actually on the surface. plus it makes more sense, since this is.. a bug world (+ jellyfish).

[@sentientwaffle535]

@@blakeworthvv That's my idea too. It's all about scope. To the bugs of hallownest, who don't stray far from the kingdom, the Huge cave ceiling of Dirtmouth is the surface

[@payhemseht]

I like the idea that, at scale, the game is so far in the ground that the Earth's surface is like the edge of the known Universe to us.

[@ashutoshsamantaray2572]

So where is the wind from howling cliffs coming with in such force?

[@soupboy8932]

Mossboag has descended into an unholy state of extreme entropy, speeding up the destruction of the universe by untold aeons. Give this man silksong already!

[@rasul01]

Who Entropy

[@Stryfe52]

@@rasul01 probably some idiot who steals; no dignity.

[@luci_datum]

@@rasul01 Entropy - Noun A lack of order or predictability; a gradual decline into disorder.

[@prachetasnayse9709]

@@Stryfe52 yes

[@destra3231]

@@rasul01 entropeez nuts lmao

[@Obi-WanGaming]

I can’t help but hear Hornet saying “Get through!” It makes alot of sense with the context

[@theangrywig3905]

22:08 actually, that might be easy to explain. Maybe the Grub Mimics aren't mimics at all? They've just gotten a taste for bug flesh and go crazy when you release them as a result.

[@techpriestemily]

I was just thinking that as well.

[@drewvarner8001]

Then wouldn’t there be empty holes when you get them all?

[@theangrywig3905]

@@drewvarner8001 they leveled the empty housing for park projects or something idk

[@drewvarner8001]

@@theangrywig3905 this make sense

[@zocritter]

@@drewvarner8001 maybe there are holes on the back, and on sides you can’t see :/ Or maybe even a second ‘nest’ we just don’t see

[@samuelcoen9254]

The Old Man and the Sea is the story of an epic struggle between an old, seasoned fisherman and the greatest catch of his life. For eighty-four days, Santiago, an aged Cuban fisherman, has set out to sea and returned empty-handed. So conspicuously unlucky is he that the parents of his young, devoted apprentice and friend, Manolin, have forced the boy to leave the old man in order to fish in a more prosperous boat. Nevertheless, the boy continues to care for the old man upon his return each night. He helps the old man tote his gear to his ramshackle hut, secures food for him, and discusses the latest developments in American baseball, especially the trials of the old man’s hero, Joe DiMaggio. Santiago is confident that his unproductive streak will soon come to an end, and he resolves to sail out farther than usual the following day. On the eighty-fifth day of his unlucky streak, Santiago does as promised, sailing his skiff far beyond the island’s shallow coastal waters and venturing into the Gulf Stream. He prepares his lines and drops them. At noon, a big fish, which he knows is a marlin, takes the bait that Santiago has placed one hundred fathoms deep in the waters. The old man expertly hooks the fish, but he cannot pull it in. Instead, the fish begins to pull the boat. Unable to tie the line fast to the boat for fear the fish would snap a taut line, the old man bears the strain of the line with his shoulders, back, and hands, ready to give slack should the marlin make a run. The fish pulls the boat all through the day, through the night, through another day, and through another night. It swims steadily northwest until at last it tires and swims east with the current. The entire time, Santiago endures constant pain from the fishing line. Whenever the fish lunges, leaps, or makes a dash for freedom, the cord cuts Santiago badly. Although wounded and weary, the old man feels a deep empathy and admiration for the marlin, his brother in suffering, strength, and resolve. On the third day the fish tires, and Santiago, sleep-deprived, aching, and nearly delirious, manages to pull the marlin in close enough to kill it with a harpoon thrust. Dead beside the skiff, the marlin is the largest Santiago has ever seen. He lashes it to his boat, raises the small mast, and sets sail for home. While Santiago is excited by the price that the marlin will bring at market, he is more concerned that the people who will eat the fish are unworthy of its greatness. As Santiago sails on with the fish, the marlin’s blood leaves a trail in the water and attracts sharks. The first to attack is a great mako shark, which Santiago manages to slay with the harpoon. In the struggle, the old man loses the harpoon and lengths of valuable rope, which leaves him vulnerable to other shark attacks. The old man fights off the successive vicious predators as best he can, stabbing at them with a crude spear he makes by lashing a knife to an oar, and even clubbing them with the boat’s tiller. Although he kills several sharks, more and more appear, and by the time night falls, Santiago’s continued fight against the scavengers is useless. They devour the marlin’s precious meat, leaving only skeleton, head, and tail. Santiago chastises himself for going “out too far,” and for sacrificing his great and worthy opponent. He arrives home before daybreak, stumbles back to his shack, and sleeps very deeply. The next morning, a crowd of amazed fishermen gathers around the skeletal carcass of the fish, which is still lashed to the boat. Knowing nothing of the old man’s struggle, tourists at a nearby café observe the remains of the giant marlin and mistake it for a shark. Manolin, who has been worried sick over the old man’s absence, is moved to tears when he finds Santiago safe in his bed. The boy fetches the old man some coffee and the daily papers with the baseball scores, and watches him sleep. When the old man wakes, the two agree to fish as partners once more. The old man returns to sleep and dreams his usual dream of lions at play on the beaches of Africa.

[@mabimabi212]

Holy shit did you make this? You did a bloody well job!

[@mr.krouton]

@@mabimabi212 Its the book summary from sparknotes lol

[@mabimabi212]

@@mr.krouton aww that's why it was a good summary

[@pepperkelleher3594]

Thank you tho

[@cheesusabidas77]

thank you

[@leewoodrough242]

13:33 I, personaly, think that the nailsmith was talking about Menderbug. Considering mederbug would be the only one roaming around finding things to repair, you would think they found nails, then gave those to the Nailsmith to be honed.

[@gato7418]

a little bit late to the party but i was replaying the game earlier today and at some point in the game before fighting the mantis lords Quirrel tells the knight to get the nail upgraded if he wants to stand a chance against the lords and even tells you where he is located, could it be that the other customer was Quirrel?

[@thatlittlemonstrosity]

some dude made a theory that it’s sly he is as small as the knight so smith could’ve mistook them sly is the only one who has a taste in comically large nails for his apprentices and himself that nail hoarding is probably the reason why sly has a business in the first place, he needs geo to commission the nailsmith

[@chucklesdeclown8819]

@@gato7418 that makes sense too

[@ggholdengo]

This might be a strange theory but i like to believe that tiso was the one bringing nails to the nailsmith, as nailsmith's dialogue might hint at, tiso probably brought him multiple nails to sharpen in order to pair with his shield. For one reason or another, tiso probably gave up picking a nail at the end, instead exclusively using his shield in combat.

[@WilloWik]

The abyss music is heartbreaking. It just makes me think of how it feels to the void children that weren’t “pure” enough and were destroyed. That cacophony sounds like the sound of thousands of voices crying out in confusion and panic as they’re killed. I want to bring peace to them.

[@thedepressedweebking9845]

I’m really glad someone else said something about it, it sounds like the screams of the damned and I can almost feel their panic and fear as the father that cursed them from their birth discarded of them like expired milk. Things like this put the Kings unfitness to be a parent in perspective, how he was so concerned with his kingdom that he would sacrifice hundreds, if not thousands of his children to stop it. It’s a bittersweet truth that he feared for his people, who he saw more as his own than his children.

[@ShiningSpear]

@@thedepressedweebking9845 No cost too great

[@thedepressedweebking9845]

@@ShiningSpear No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering.

[@ironfire286]

@@thedepressedweebking9845 That last line always shivers me. Like "it dont has a voice, so it cant scream in agony when the infection hits it, dont worry about it" Pretty brutal tbh

[@GoogleUser-ms6hr]

A lot of ppl talk about the background noise sounding like discarded vessels but tbh I feel like it's just a byproduct of speeding up (and presumably pitching up) the abyss theme and not actually intentional

[@rabbidDuck29]

i thought the reason dirtmouth was so dark despite "being on the surface" is bc when radiance got sealed away she took the light with her, plunging the land into eternal darkness where time stood still

[@improbableopera793]

She does kinda seem to be the sun

[@qwertyuiop8795]

mfw people forget the mama moth so she makes the sun not exist

[@rabbidDuck29]

@Hooty HOOT HOOT bro that'd be one dirty ass couch

[@lamegourd5260]

@Hooty HOOT HOOT Entire game of hollow knight just takes place in between two cushions. Randomly at some point somebody reached down their to get their phone, sees what’s happening down there, and sets the couch on fire in their front yard. The last moments of hollownest. Even the destruction of the radiance couldn’t forestall Dave setting his couch on fire.

[@JM-us3fr]

I’m pretty sure Team Cherry said the game takes place during one long night. So of course there’s no sunlight.

[@ultraquake7170]

Mossbag the entire hk memes subreddit wants to sacrifice you

[@AshenDust_]

For the Lost Kin Arena, maybe a boss’s dream arena isn’t where they died, but the place they had the strongest connection too. Soul Tyrant was super dedicated to his work in the Soul Sanctum, and False Knight might have lived just above his area, where his brothers mourn him. If Broken Vessel died coming back into the abyss instead of leaving it, then maybe it went to the Forgotten Crossroads or City of Tears, lived there for a while, grew larger, and then came back to the Abyss, to see if any of it’s siblings had survived, but died in the Ancient Basin

[@ahzayoc1207]

I think the lost kin arena is just a version of the broken vessel arena that isn’t worn down. After all, the broken vessel arena has multiple arches in the background, similar to the lost kin.

[@J.R.Unbound]

This is honestly a good idea! The White Defender fight strengthens this for me, due to that seemingly taking place in the white palace. Also, maybe the Lost Kin thinks of the Crossroads since that's where the Radiance (the one controlling them) or hollow knight (their sibling that may have also called out to the knight) resides. It could also be a bit of foreshadowing, as the crossroads gets infected if you beat the Broken Vessel.

[@serraramayfield9230]

@@J.R.Unbound BV didn't grow at all

[@KINGSNAKE-lh7oe]

@@serraramayfield9230 No, the Broken vessel is bigger then the player character, the young Hollow Knight as seen in the birthplace cutscene, and the other vessel corpses shown in the abyss, implying that it grew at some point. It may be a bit hard to notice because it remains hunched over for the majority of the fight.

[@serraramayfield9230]

@@KINGSNAKE-lh7oe It only seems that way because of variation in head size. When looking at the countless vessel corpses in the Abyss and their head shapes/sizes you'll realize that this doesn't mean they grew (besides the fact that there's nothing TO grow naturally in a vessel as they have no organs), and that there are vessel corpses like Broken Vessel in the Abyss. The only Vessel which was grown period (artificially) was THK, as according to the Pure Vessel description they were "raised and trained to prime form". Considering who did that act in the first place - Pale King and White Lady - whatever growth that happened to them wasn't because of something inherent to the Vessel.

[@maxhay9098]

Mossbag's throwaway insults are always my favorite part of his videos, his delivery is on point. "Why is the Brooding Mawlek brooding? Because all its friends are dead." "Maybe his bad eyesight is what got him killed."

[@ElleTGC]

12:13 How dare mossbag cut it off! The rest of it says "On the eighty-fifth day of his unlucky streak, Santiago does as promised, sailing his skiff far beyond the island’s shallow coastal waters and venturing into the Gulf Stream. He prepares his lines and drops them. At noon, a big fish, which he knows is a marlin, takes the bait that Santiago has placed one hundred fathoms deep in the waters. The old man expertly hooks the fish, but he cannot pull it in. Instead, the fish begins to pull the boat. Unable to tie the line fast to the boat for fear the fish would snap a taut line, the old man bears the strain of the line with his shoulders, back, and hands, ready to give slack should the marlin make a run. The fish pulls the boat all through the day, through the night, through another day, and through another night. It swims steadily northwest until at last it tires and swims east with the current. The entire time, Santiago endures constant pain from the fishing line. Whenever the fish lunges, leaps, or makes a dash for freedom, the cord cuts Santiago badly. Although wounded and weary, the old man feels a deep empathy and admiration for the marlin, his brother in suffering, strength, and resolve. On the third day the fish tires, and Santiago, sleep-deprived, aching, and nearly delirious, manages to pull the marlin in close enough to kill it with a harpoon thrust. Dead beside the skiff, the marlin is the largest Santiago has ever seen. He lashes it to his boat, raises the small mast, and sets sail for home. While Santiago is excited by the price that the marlin will bring at market, he is more concerned that the people who will eat the fish are unworthy of its greatness. As Santiago sails on with the fish, the marlin’s blood leaves a trail in the water and attracts sharks. The first to attack is a great mako shark, which Santiago manages to slay with the harpoon. In the struggle, the old man loses the harpoon and lengths of valuable rope, which leaves him vulnerable to other shark attacks. The old man fights off the successive vicious predators as best he can, stabbing at them with a crude spear he makes by lashing a knife to an oar, and even clubbing them with the boat’s tiller. Although he kills several sharks, more and more appear, and by the time night falls, Santiago’s continued fight against the scavengers is useless. They devour the marlin’s precious meat, leaving only skeleton, head, and tail. Santiago chastises himself for going “out too far,” and for sacrificing his great and worthy opponent. He arrives home before daybreak, stumbles back to his shack, and sleeps very deeply. The next morning, a crowd of amazed fishermen gathers around the skeletal carcass of the fish, which is still lashed to the boat. Knowing nothing of the old man’s struggle, tourists at a nearby café observe the remains of the giant marlin and mistake it for a shark. Manolin, who has been worried sick over the old man’s absence, is moved to tears when he finds Santiago safe in his bed. The boy fetches the old man some coffee and the daily papers with the baseball scores, and watches him sleep. When the old man wakes, the two agree to fish as partners once more. The old man returns to sleep and dreams his usual dream of lions at play on the beaches of Africa."

[@sandrolarocca3113]

Thank you very much😊

[@Dr.Death8520]

Lions? Like a village of lions? My god it's all connected!

[@orange_oldfish]

Hey mossbag, I'm the guy who asked team cherry about the Knight's "canon" name on that mixer stream. I remember asking them why the Knight's pin sold on fangamer is called "The Wanderer Pin" and they responded with the response you showed on screen. Just thought I'd add "Wanderer" to the list of possible names for the Knight.

[@mossbag69]

Was gonna mention that, but I think they actually changed the pins on fangamer to call it the Knight

[@orange_oldfish]

@mossbag So they did! I just checked the website and you're right. However, it does actually still say Wanderer if you look at the top left of the fangamer page, "Home > Hollow Knight > Wanderer Lapel Pin" for the directory thingy. I'm guessing Team Cherry asked them to change the name to the Knight but they missed one instance of "Wanderer" in the code. Take a screenshot for a future video before it's too late! I always thought the term "Wanderer" was interesting since it exists in the game for "Wanderer's Journal." Is the Knight considered just another wanderer? Does that make someone like Quirrel a wanderer too?

[@llucllumador380]

@@orange_oldfish so this is confirmed then. WOW

[@overqwilgaming6614]

I literally opened youtube thinking “damm I still need to see if anyone made a video on that hollow knight iceberg I saw” and then the first thing I see is the best person for the job

[@bleenyx]

he is suspiciously not uploading anymore did he sacrifice himself?

[@MasterIsabelle]

His sanity yes His duty no

[@robert.7230]

He didn't. However I believe it would have been an honourable sacrifice.

[@annaarkless5822]

i dont think anyone has really looked into the lore implications of the 420 geo drops. does this imply weed exists in hollow knight? is the gorgeous husk actually a stoner? i expect a 40 minute video into these questions, thank you mossbag

[@yourresidentanon4169]

Actually I’ll have you know the gorgeous husk was a beauty pageant Queen who had a stage mom and turned to drugs to cope. /j

[@mightyloa5704]

Well the bugs at the Basin sure look... Stoned!!!

[@31-2-5]

@@mightyloa5704 que laugh track

[@clutzicon8142]

Mossbag we need this

[@yourresidentanon4169]

@Deadpoppin meh, whenever I think a joke could possibly come off the other way as being sincere (or in this case, seeming like a know-it-all), it doesn’t hurt to add a tone indicator

[@epser5842]

Usually, icebergs are trash and made by people who permanently reside in the first layer, but this one was really incredible and made by someone who knows his shit. Really impressive

[@wippo42]

Cos mossbag made it, at this point he might know more about hk than team cherry

[@Winasaurus]

@@jerry2472 He IS stevepuyo96.

[@jerry2472]

@@Winasaurus ong...

[@bell2023]

@@jerry2472 He says later in the video that he made that up and that he was the one (with help) to make it

[@jerry2472]

@@bell2023 nvm on my original comment then im stupid

[@Jellyfish146]

Hey Mossy sorry to hear you're being sacrificed soon, it'll be worth it though.

[@Bubblegum-Cupcake]

…Did I miss part of the video?

[@Jellyfish146]

@Bubblegum Cupcake -Alt- there was a meme going around that the only say we were gonna get Silksong was to sacrifice Mossbag. I guess the threats worked, but it's still a possibility until we actually have silksong.

[@lonestarr1490]

@@Jellyfish146 Well, given that your original comment is now over a year old, I reckon that "soon" has quite an elusive meaning when it comes to Hollow Knight. Be it the release of Silksong, the pending sacrifice of certain youtubers, or new entries in the blog section of the official Team Cherry website.

[@jjayplayz]

Wait but silksongs already out tho

[@Jack.0ctober]

​@@jjayplayzUh, no... it's not, unfortunately

[@WhitePaintbrush]

Interesting note about the little melody that plays when you sit on the throne: it’s actually the Hollow Knight/Vessel theme _and_ the White Palace/White Lady theme at the same time.

[@thedepressedweebking9845]

That would be very in line with the scene. It signifies how you, a vessel who hath crawled out of the depths of your birthplace, have ascended into the role of king. You now care for the land fraught with death and infection and only you can bring Hallownest back to it’s former glory. The music shows the importance of the vessel and the white palace, letting the player know that these two things are now united.

[@shinytentacruel2062]

I always imagined that the nailsmith is confusing the Knight for Hornet, who has that needle weapon and hints at a familial relation to the Knight. I imagine that as one of the only remaining "main character" survivors still in Hollownest, that this dialogue was included to show that she is protecting it to some degree, returning occasionally to the nailsmith to have her weapon honed or replaced.

[@michaellayard5045]

But the nailsmith specifically refers to the weapon he made for the mysterious person as a nail, which hornet doesn't use

[@chees2]

It might be quirrel since he tells you about the nailsmith i think in the fungal wastes

[@skillsharekirby2048]

@@chees2 if you dreamnail Quirrel there, he specifically questions why he knows about the nailsmith, so it probably isn't him

[@chees2]

@@skillsharekirby2048 oh

[@skillsharekirby2048]

@@chees2 dw you pretty much have to grind to get dreamnail before claw

[@CharlesAngelus]

Willoh doesn't have the same eye lines on her mask as the Grimsteeds or most of the Grimm Troupe do, so if she does come from the troupe, it's possible she somehow freed herself and lost her memories like Nymm, hence why she has nothing to say about the Grimmchild. On top of this, I like to imagine she used to be the steed of the dead troupe member in Howling Cliffs, and that by freeing herself she left him to die there with no means to light the lantern.

[@Hergotzer]

I always understood Nailsmith's dialogue of "bringing another nail to sharpen" being about not one bug visiting him often but many different bugs bringing him nails to be worked on. His lines can be interpreted as "another bug bringing another nail" and his line about "returning later, if you're still breathing" can be understood as either friendly banter for an old acquaintance, or a throwaway line for a client trying to survive in Hallownest among many. It's possible the many infected knightbugs strolling around the City of Tears might be the ones bringing him nails, in fact. After all, even when infected it's clear those bugs are still following some resemblance of their old lives. It wouldn't be out of the question one of their imprinted habits would be to take their nails to be sharpened every now and then. That may also be why he's still alive, because the infected soldiers won't attack him. All of this would explain why he doesn't bring up the client again; he wasn't talking about any one in particular, just thinking you were just another mindless husk.

[@fglm0017]

I always thought it meant Mato or Oro, and possibly Sheo and Sly, but that's unlikely due to Sheo's dialogue and Sly having put down his nail permanently long ago. But with the training the nailmasters clearly do, its very likely that the edges of their nails would dull and need honed. And its pretty acceptable that they would have multiple that need sharpened. As far as the infected knights doing it...it's unclear. It seems pretty obvious that they attack any non-infected bug on sight (they apparently attack Quirrel, Zote, and Tiso, and Emilitia mentions others having died), but we also have evidence of infected individuals who are able to retain some sentience, at least before the infection grows too bad and kills them. So I can't dismiss that possibility at all.

[@krisw9526]

@@fglm0017 It seems the nail smith only talks about one person and Oro would be the only one to actually go out so that makes even more sense

[@connerhursh4204]

@@krisw9526 I always assumed it was Quirrel since he is the one who tells you to seek out a nailsmith before trying to fight the mantis lords.

[@condor2279]

I think it was Quirrel.

[@condor2279]

@@connerhursh4204 Yeah, it explains how he knew about the Nailsmith if he'd been.

[@GreenchildHk]

free tridents and torchs for mossbag sacrifice: 🔱🔱🔱🔥🔥🔥

[@croma2068]

9:48 The mode is probably called Steel Soul in reference to the Iron Man challenge, where you beat a game without losing or dying once. It's named that because you have to play the game so well that you're indestructible, like an iron man.

[@lachlankidd6517]

The most disturbing part of the Treasury Tunnel photo is the Knight's shadow appearing on the wall

[@robert.7230]

Yep. Especially the size of the shadow.

[@darkenedpsynoid]

Wheres that at......

[@Nightsound_21]

17:08 actually, if you use benchwarp mode to get out of godhome in godseeker mode, as you already have all 3 vessels, if you get 3 more fragments you can actually get a 4th one

[@jstar3382]

I knew that he made this the moment that he mentioned the Treasury Tunnel. No one but him would know that, and when he said to check the math I knew it

[@peterdavis7695]

16:54 - my personal head canon is that this is the guy who made the Hollow Knight's nail, and the Hollow Knight killed him at his request once it was complete. There's a nice symmetry here - the ancient nail smith created a pure nail after forging many, many imperfect nails that he discarded. The imperfect nails became the Quick Slash charm - something is, perhaps, far more powerful than the weapon he deemed perfect. Meanwhile, the Pale King cast countless imperfect vessels the abyss, until he created his one, seemingly pure vessel. One of these vessels came back and surpassed the Hollow Knight, and all of the Pale King's expectations. Instead of simply sealing the Radiance away, they destroyed it utterly. Also, our weapon didn't start perfect (as far as we know) - instead, it was an old and battered weapon, reforged to perfection. Appropriate choice for a seemingly imperfect vessel. Another theory I have - more of a hypothesis at best, really - is that Pale Ore is actually chitin from the Pale King's old body. He hollowed out - ha - his cast off shell and used the material for all sorts of things. Like weapons...and maybe the Kingsmoulds? Maybe the masks the vessels wear, too. Possibly his entire palace, even! The void seems like it's a pretty corrosive substance, you would need something pretty durable to withstand it...

[@hollowshield2315]

wow, this is a great theory that I hadn't even considered or seen anywhere. props to you

[@MashuSlyferiux]

It can't be because the ancient Nailsmith it's an ancient civilization member, so he died waaaayyy before Hallownest

[@peterdavis7695]

​@@MashuSlyferiux Wiki: "These ancient remnants have no inherent connection to present-day Hallownest, but it is unknown if they are related to the ancient civilisation." I read the entry on this guy, and I think it could go either way.

[@robert.7230]

It does sound cool but the pale ore is definitely not from the cast of shell as other commenter have said

[@peterdavis7695]

@@robert.7230 Yeah, I've got no evidence of that one.

[@patrickstonecrusher]

Pressed the 'Sacrifice' button

[@LotteLattes]

I always thought hornet said "get down" when she flies in to help with the knight it would make sense as she does chuck her weapon right over your head lol.

[@el_psy_canguri]

But, how i get her help?

[@ZomBkiller115]

@@el_psy_canguri Spoilers obviously: You need to fight Hornet in Kingdoms Edge and continue past her to get the Kings Brand. Then you need to visit the White Lady in the Queens Gardens and then the Pale King's corpse in the White Palace to get both halves of the Kingsoul charm. Then you need to go to the abyss at the bottom of the ancient basin and enter the birthplace. After you do all of this, Hornet will be standing in the black egg temple and will join you during the fight.

[@el_psy_canguri]

@@ZomBkiller115 thanks for the help but i go down in the abyss for the hearth void?

[@bagelbramble7335]

Unless she's hiding a secret Scottish heritage, she definitely does not say "down".

[@silverdrago6399]

I interpret it as "get through," as if telling the knight to use the dream nail in order to enter the mind of the hollow knight

[@sophiesappho]

Okay Team Cherry's response to your lion village inquiry actually cracked me up. And that twist ending! Never saw it coming.

[@alessandrotulipani1807]

silksong will be our soon mossbag, you can run but you can't hide

[@frenchwaffl]

Having read the entirety of The Old Man and The Sea by Ernest Hemmingway, I can also confirm that the fact that The Knight does not tilt his head on the Pale Kings throne does indeed remind me of The Old Man and The Sea as well as the fact that it means nothing whatsoever

[@nightmare4lol]

Elaborate pls?

[@the_egg_]

@@nightmare4lol ur mom

[@nightmare4lol]

@@the_egg_ preposterous, you're mother.

[@GEB_Rosee_PPS]

@@nightmare4lol *yuo'er

[@MNTNPG]

It wasn't mentioned in the iceberg, but a piece of trivia that I've never really heard people talk about is that, according to one of the developer notes, apparently feet don't exist in the Hollow Knight universe

[@katoshi6464]

amazing

[@chrisheartman9263]

truly my own land and home.

[@around441pipissharingaytac4]

Devianart users be pissing and crying rn

[@gapplssb]

this fact should stop 50% of the r34 art

[@Daniel_Lancelin]

Foot fetishists: *DESTROYED*

[@cleinden8397]

When hornet saves the knight from sealed vessel I always thought she was trying to say "get down", like as a warning she was charging in

[@1samper122]

But, if you made the iceberg, did you intentionally miscount the sawblades in white palace? Or is there another significance of 249?

[@hazmatbp]

He says this a couple of times, he didn't make the iceberg. Some guy on Reddit did

[@evanolsen6925]

@@hazmatbp No, he made it with an unpaid actor.

[@serraramayfield9230]

@@hazmatbp I'm a mod of Mossbag's discord, he did in fact make this and we were told to keep it secret.

[@hazmatbp]

@@serraramayfield9230 ok that clears that up

[@fig4714]

@@serraramayfield9230 🧢

[@misterfister5810]

9:03 “Mmrmm... My accordion is made from parts of a rare grub. A bit morbid perhaps, mm... but the highest quality.. I suppose I can understand why visitors would mistake it for a living organism… but it’s been dead for over two centuries..” -cut brumm dialogue

[@maxuni6651]

THATS WORSE TBH

[@grey7271]

where did you get this?

[@Scriblyn]

Source?

[@ricardobr1493]

@@maxuni6651 its not, the bugs dead, its better than brumm torturing a innocent bug because of haha funni sound

[@scratchgd5604]

16:42 this actually makes a lot of sense. actually fighting a vessel makes way more sense than one just appearing, and also broken vessel does have some kind of dash ability like the mothwing cloak

[@arty_mc_artist]

Willoh could have just forgotten about the troupe, since I'm pretty sure the accordion guy doesn't remember the troupe either once he's free. But if he does remember and I'm just dumb, then yeah I'd agree. I haven't been able to free him personally yet, so I'm not familiar with his dialogue

[@MaximEyes]

He has no real recollection of while he was in the troupe, just some vague sense of deja vu sometimes.

[@blakeworthvv]

like the other person said, they basically dont remember their past. i also like the idea (that i came up with) that the tent actually belongs to the bug in the same room as willoh (secret part of it, double jump to the right of where willoh is eating). either way, its interesting.

[@blank4305]

17:08 There is a little bit more to say about that fourth soul vessel, I think! I watched a stream of Blue_SR where he messes with the game to add supplementary soul vessel fragments, and it turns out that when he picks up enough of them, he gets a functional fourth soul vessel. So the source code for that is still present in the finished game!

[@VexxHelss]

Likely those fragments reside in the eliminated zone, so they got cut out altogether.

[@phoenixwithahalfofdragon936]

Yeah, if you give yourself the 3 vessels with the debug mod and find 3 vessel fragments you unlock a fourth

[@yharr3789]

I hope mossbag bought a really good home security system. You should never underestimate the power of impatient HK fans

[@willhuman641]

Only after watching this video and counting every time Mossbag brought up “cut content”, have I finally realized why Silk Song is taking so long.

[@toastedbred2961]

The Abyss Theme one completely blew my mind. how does this game keep surprising me

[@MasterIsabelle]

Hey! It’s the hollowtuber!

[@harryrinaudo5525]

mossbag run, r/hollowknightmemes is coming for you.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Why?

[@harryrinaudo5525]

@@jakespacepiratee3740 This was made when the hollowknight subreddits were plotting to sacrifice mossbag to make silksong come out

[@connorevans104]

HOLD ON YOU DIDNT NOTICE. The “royal arrangement of the hollow Knight theme is actual TWO themes/melodies playing at the same time” the other of which I’ll call the pale theme. It plays during the white lady’s theme, the start of the game, in the white palace and has a brief reference in hornets theme as well. This signifies how you serve the role as the vessel, brethren to the hollow Knight that the pale king used to.

[@bloom1351]

13:30 maybe the client was actually quirel since he cares about his nail so much, and he also recommends visiting the nail smith to sharpen your nail if you lose to the mantis lords.

[@ReeversUhHuh]

Quirrel mention that he heard about a nailsmith at the mantis village, and the nailsmith seems to have honed a lot fo nail for that person so i don't think quirrel would had the time to get a lot of nail honed (for some reason?) in the little time from mantis village and CoT, but maybe the person who gets nail honed by the nailsmith is the one who told squirrel about the nailsmith, since quirrel says he heard about it, that means theres an uninfected bug that knows about the nailsmith somewhere, so that would make sense

[@rua5910]

@@ReeversUhHuh squirrel

[@ReeversUhHuh]

Nobody gonna talk about how Bloom also misspelled « quirrel » but they have a 1/1 quirrel misspelled ratio while I have only 1/4 of my quirrel misspelled

[@rua5910]

@@ReeversUhHuh fair enough

[@jedediahhopkins6051]

Mossbag, we are here to collect our sacrifice

[@plasmetal8225]

Here are my thoughts on some of the more "unusual" entries, two in particular. Hunter fought Radiance: The Hunter likely never fought Radiance given her state within the Hollow Knight. It's probably just him writing about the Infection instead. The jorunal states _"The plague, the infection, the madness that haunts the corpses of Hallownest... the light that screams out from the eyes of this dead Kingdom. What is the source? I suppose mere mortals like myself will never understand."_ This never indicates that the Hunter fought the Radiance physically. Maybe, like Cornifer and Ogrim, the Hunter's will was strong enough to resist the Radiance. Nailsmith's Client: I'm not too confident about this one, but I think that two good candidates for being the Nailsmith's client are Markoth and Xero. The Nailsmith says _"Have you brought me another nail to be honed? Leave it on the ground and return later, if you're still breathing."_ This implies that the client likely owns more than one nail. After all, the amount of nails left around the Nailsmith's place likely indicate that they either use nails as a throwing weapon or they are in need of a more powerful nail. If the former is the case, then that would likely be the two dream warriors. If the latter is the case, then it may likely be Sly or the other Nailmasters. If not any of them, it may just be some other unnamed character. I'm not 100% certain about these, but hopefully they're decent ideas of what may have happened.

[@demetria-n]

My personal theory is that it's the bug sly mentions when infected, because we don't know much about the character ( I believe named Esmy tho) I can't be proven wrong yet XD

[@mlemmlem9690]

My theory is that the bug that often visits the Naismith is Quirrel. He's the one who tells you to visit him to hone your nail for the dangers ahead whe you go straight to the mantis village. As for Esmy(spelling? Unsure how its spelled) I believe that they're the bug corpse outside of Oro's house on Kingdom's Edge.

[@dadalikalama]

@@mlemmlem9690 the punching ball outside oro's house is just a great hopper wearing nailmaster's clothes. Probably Oro being angry at his brothers or idk there are some sad stories going with them we don't really know about (sorry for my bad english btw)

[@dadalikalama]

There is also a character with multiple blades in the spirit glade

[@mlemmlem9690]

@@dadalikalama it has dreamnail dialouge that matches with Sly mentioning how all of them, including Esmy, were travelling together at one point b4 he fell into a Radiance haze and the other brothers split apart, but Esmy is nowhere to be found. That's mostly why I figure it might be the corpse, I theorized that Esmy might have fallen to the Radience, attacked the group, been killed by Oro and then the group fractured apart. But thats just my theory.

[@aosevenvultures5368]

I like how mossbag releases a video every few weeks when I'm finnaly at my lowest point and gives me a dopamine fix just in time to get me to keep going until silksong. And the anxiety it causes me to wait for it

[@josephdavison4189]

I think a reasonable guess to the city of tears name can be deduced from dirtmouth. It’s nearer to the surface and is located at the entrance, or “mouth” of hallownest. The city of tears is considered the heart of hollownest. And is near a famous lake. So a reasonable guess would be lakeheart.

[@Barmem]

I was 100% sure you made that iceberg after that tunnel entry.

[@e-moon4438]

Been waiting for this since I saw it on Twitter.

[@choppersdoctorin6625]

same

[@neuro3834]

same

[@colineadesyeux]

same

[@oooo0430]

same

[@e-moon4438]

Nvm I’m mad this man made it up

[@pogies]

At 11:41, the reason I think why The Knight doesn't tilt his head while sitting on the throne is to mimic how the Pale King was always watching over Hallownest while it was under the Radiance's influence.

[@ronniewhitedx]

Silksong should be the very bottom of the iceberg as for all we know its just simple legend...Myth even. I believe it represents all the friends we managed to make along the way. (:

[@tchekoslovaqueancestral6747]

Bruh watcha sayin Silksong is real I played it

[@ngmonster1017]

That backwards smiley face is the worst thing I have ever seen. It's so ominous.

[@shakkoryu]

Don't worry man, in the dark souls community we thought the same about Elden Ring

[@Wakeful_mistake]

Dang it. You actually tricked me into reading the entire bit about the old man and the sea

[@tehardegames]

Hey about the cave paintings mentioned at 23:40. My friends uncle has a friend who has a uncle who has a son who worked at this game. The paintings would all be of Zote, he would tell you something verry important. They had to remove it from the game because people would stop playing the game to stare at the Zote paintings for days none stop.

[@heisenburg09]

Hes lying to you

[@Demonmask-whatareyoulookingat]

Shut up ​@@heisenburg09,he's onto something

[@carriganreilly]

i’d like to believe that The Knight’s internal true name, is still Hungry Knight

[@tabeatamm3594]

Icebergs are always weird, because usually there is stuff on every level that I know about, but also some that I don't know about, even on the surface level.

[@enderfire3379]

13:32 if i had to take a guess of the established characters then Sly: he easily could have asked for the nailsmith to make a nail for his apprentices.

[@Ani]

I've seen a ton of HK icebergs and generally can get quite deep into them - but this one absolutely stumped me when you posted it on twitter. I barely got to the 4th level! (edit) I had a few thoughts about the stuff in this video - my theory for why the Hunter knows of the Radiance is that it would have had to "fight" the radiance to remain uninfected, and since we see from NPCs like Myla that the Radiance directly talks to those she infects, I think it's likely that when the Radiance was trying to infect the Hunter, it learnt what it does about the Radiance before finally killing it. Additionally, I'm not sure how viable this theory is, but I think it's a neat little detail that the knight (who, by definition, has no mind) is able to so easily use soul - in a way that other bugs could only dream of - because it doesn't have anything that needs to be reformed like the members of the Soul Sanctum.

[@1tonsongaming78]

That last point about the knight's ability to use soul, ya! I had never thought of that! That would make quite a bit if sense.

[@Oscar97o]

The knight actually has a mind, but it can't talk so nobody would know.

[@irakyl]

Team Cherry does a pretty good job tying lore in together with gameplay, but the hunter's journal is just a mistake they made. Even if you explain the radiance, there are still so many other enemies the hunter has no business knowing about, like white palace inhabitants. If team cherry had juts rephrased the hunter's journal as "write notes on enemies" instead of "decipher the hunter's notes on enemies" we wouldn't have this problem. Like the knight can draw its own maps, writing isn't too much a stretch. How would the hunter know his journal is complete anyway? How does one know a list is exhaustive? 🤔 Once you start over analysing gameplay mechanics, nothing makes sense.

[@leomclaughlinfrancoeur7546]

@@irakyl What you point out is quite true, in general, but since we can assume the Hunter is very, *very* old, it would make perfect sense that he was around during the Pale King's reign, and thus maybe had a tussle or two with the palace guard, which I assume already existed at that time. Also, he seemingly got bored enough to basically go "screw this, I'm taking a nap for the rest of my existence", meaning he had most likely well and truly run out of new things to add to his journal.

[@leif4698]

About the Hunter, the theory that he fought back against the Radiance seems unlikely. Since there are no bugs that can do that, not even the Hollow Knight, I think it's impossible to fight back, but I don't know. Interesting observation though!

[@creditsunknown7974]

Ive always though that the Hunters journals arent just about the creatures, for example, they speak about allowing the infection to enter their body on the Traitor lords segement, not actually talking about the mantises. The same can be said for the radiance, the Hunter never mentions the fluffy moth gf, but instead the concept of the infection and the light it gives.

[@namemycactus]

26:21 I think it's because the game icon has the knight surrounded by lifeblood vines. so it transitions better than the plain background. y'know. design technique or whatever

[@erby3027]

I always thought the "other client" of the Nailsmith was Sly, despite it not being mentioned anywhere I just like to think he brings around a boatload of nails to be sharpened each week or something

[@aqua2k210]

14:28 Honestly that's more terrifying than the Abyss theme

[@JMoney_TheGangster]

Here here mossy boy, we need your address so that we may obtain the absolute holiness that is Silksong. Chirp, chirp, chirp. Those are bird noises mossy boy.

[@thibaultquartier4794]

maybe willow doesn't remember the troupe because she lost her nightmare mask, just like brumm/nymm

[@creditsunknown7974]

Great video! Reminds of The Old Man and the Sea by Ernest Hemmingway!

[@Imperio_Otomano_the_realest]

honestly reminds me of Industrial Society and It's Future

[@BX--nq6gf]

The hunter never fought the radiance The journal entry on it is only talking about the infection in hollownest, he even says he dosent know what the source is

[@hazelv.a.7976]

Honestly, learning why they were in that tunnel made this video worth it.

[@Graphomite]

*mossbag:* "I'm probably the only person who cares about this." *My brain:* _I mean, the guy who made this iceburg cares._ *mossbag five minutes later:* "I made this iceburg."

[@nataliem5425]

16:15 it's possible her memory of the Grimm troupe was wiped, similar to brumm

[@tylercoon1791]

I like to think that the ‘super hidden top secret’ name for The Knight is just a normal name, and internally, he’s named Rodger or something

[@waxocelot9395]

ah yes, the protag for hollow knight: James

[@tommapar]

Steel Soul is called that way because your soul vessel never breaks like when your shade is out there, it only does so when you die and therefore it only does so once.

[@mayoactual2065]

To mossbag, run.

[@bfufhryrrhtjhxbdgkjgutitjh7877]

What are you going to do to mossbag?

[@whidderstone1712]

@@bfufhryrrhtjhxbdgkjgutitjh7877 sacrifice him to team cherry

[@nentrellemmer2122]

i got so excited when you said that the abyss music was a slowed down version of the main theme, i love it when games do that and it would make my love for the game even greater, but the mess that played afterwards really caught me of guard, I'm at least happy that something like that is in the game.

[@thedepressedweebking9845]

Kinda reminds me of how in Undertale the Genocide route Snowdin music is actually slowed down and pitched down Flowey’s theme

[@trashboxbobylev9900]

@@thedepressedweebking9845 The Choice is 5x slower spinnet of Undertale (the track) and In My Way is 5x slower version of Anticipation.

[@DoctorBones1]

oh boy wait till you hear about undertale

[@nentrellemmer2122]

@@DoctorBones1where do you think my joy came from

[@ryankeith2712]

What a Christmas present mossbag! Thank you and merry Christmas!

[@cyber-demon6847]

13:12 Here's what I think: when you first meet the Naismith, he says, "Have you brought me another nail to be honed? Leave it on the ground and return later, if you're still breathing. Hmm? Oh. I thought you were someone else" I believe he is referring to the broken vessel because it is not stated when it died but when you kill him he clearly has some life left since he reaches for you meaning his infection was recent, and he is a void being like you with a nail, and he was close to monarch wings which is need for kingsoul which are right and left of him and when you first see the boss he's more to the left which is where the monarch wings are located (which are needed first) and if you look at the nail it has on its back it has no cracks like the base nail it is smooth like it was honed at least once, and so I think he was on the same quest as you hence when you beat him he reaches for his successor or what he could have been... IDK, I could be completely wrong Argument: It's possible, but it could have been alot of people. Nailmasters, quirrel, tiso, soul warrior, heck even maybe ze'mer is a possibility Answer: Thing is the Nailmasters do not fight and only teach you their ways for money and are secluded and have the same weapon as does Nailsage Sly and you don't know Sly is a Nailsage until Godhome, Tiso just has a shield, Ze'mer doesn't have a weapon and on the Soul Warrior's wiki it's stated it has a "Pinblade" also in the comics Quirrel has his blade before stepping out of Hollownest after helping Monomon and the same blade when he steps foot in Hollownest again and when he helps you with Uumuu it never changes which is why I believe the Broken vessel is who the Nailsmith is talking to

[@Zkydo]

11:08 about the death of Tiso, I did a post on reddit some months ago, because during my steel soul run I didnt talk to Tiso, he was still looking at me next to the well even until the end, so his corpse is not on Kindgom's Edge. The thing with this, is that during the fight with Mawlek on Godhome, Tiso doesn't show there, because you know, he is not death, nice detail that kind of confirm his death in the CoF.

[@zehirahsen874]

Are you sure that was the Panthon of Hallownest?