Death Battle Q&A: Ben 10 VS Green Lantern DEBUNKED (Ink Tank) Reaction

[@GinoDevs]

I love how you guys brought up basically all of Kuro's points before watching the video

[@jacsu84]

That was cool wasnt it lol

[@lightblue2248]

One point both of them didnt bring up even if green lantern coverd the omnitrex ben could have used a voice command

[@DrSnegg]

@Malcolm Bryan what.

[@aweebtaku429]

It just proves that kuro isn't just saying bullshit

[@l0sts0ul89]

@@aweebtaku429 expect he is

[@vice166]

Covering up the Omnitrix wouldn't work, because the master control allows Ben to turn into any alien he wants to without touching the Omnitrix

[@Nameless82284]

Even if do manage to cut Ben's arm, he could still transform, he would probably transform into Swampfire.

[@midestheking]

ben wins

[@santito6026]

That is my boy

[@bryceblake9264]

He can access his aliens just by thinking about them

[@SebasTian58323]

There's also the fact that, even though it's not used often, Ben can use voice commands to change forms, at least in the recalibrated prototype

[@anokadyos]

Fans: "so what version of hal jardon are you going to use against ben?" Deathbattle: "yes"

[@legendary3952]

GreyVy they only used one version so you’re incorrect

[@anokadyos]

@@legendary3952 oh it is the all in one green lantern version, sorry, my mistake

[@legendary3952]

GreyVy what?

[@anokadyos]

@@legendary3952 ok, tell me what comic version they used on death battle that proves this hal jordan is not a composite

[@lslightningstrike284]

Omega they used feats that were not in the link sooo

[@reptilian2203]

I love how death battle says injustice isn’t cannon, yet it actually is a comic series ran by neatherrealm and dc comics and that makes it canon

[@niteshade1095]

I didn’t say it wasn’t canon. I said people were saying it wasn’t canon. Which I thought was dumb.

[@reptilian2203]

@@niteshade1095 yea thats a typo on my part I meant to say death battle doesn’t think it’s cannon yet it is

[@kryo4491]

@@reptilian2203 that is an elsewhere story, it's not part of the main continuity of DC

[@Animeaddiction]

@@reptilian2203 Actually it's non-canon. The main DC continuity has Superman married to Lois Lane with a son, while Injustice Superman accidentally killed Lois and their unborn child. Just because DC and Netherealm collaborated on a comic and video game based on DC characters, doesn't make the product canon. That's like saying Superman the Animated Series and Dragon Ball GT are canon. You need to look up the definition of canon.

[@killernyancat8193]

@@Animeaddiction Pretty sure the original comment meant that it was canon to the DC multiverse.

[@adzinco6916]

4:07 covering the omnitrix would work but in the death battle he has master control meaning he doesn't have to actually touch the omnitrix to transform

[@just_a_tepig3611]

Also there's still the failsafe which would automatically transform him

[@Marsproject11]

@@just_a_tepig3611 Except Hal is faster than the fail safe.

[@just_a_tepig3611]

@@Marsproject11 you saying that obvious pair of scissors is faster than the big bang?

[@Marsproject11]

@@just_a_tepig3611 I am saying that Hal can form a construct and use it faster than the big bang yes.

[@risottopose9970]

@@Marsproject11 proof?

[@normanwhitmore6377]

Here's something I just realized: They ignored the fact that Hal's constructs have been shown to be destroyed by strong enough individuals and ben has at least 3 different ways to avoid being caught in a bubble that Hal forms around him.

[@l0sts0ul89]

I don't think any of Ben's aliens are a strong as Superman

[@normanwhitmore6377]

@@l0sts0ul89 Superman has nothing to do with this. Hell I didn't even mention anything about superman.

[@l0sts0ul89]

@@normanwhitmore6377 true but he still can fit , if Superman has a hard time breaking Hals sheilds than the other aliens won't to much.

[@demonprincemeliodias6590]

@@l0sts0ul89 waybig he literally born from cosmic storm and can travel at light speed or faster

[@l0sts0ul89]

@@demonprincemeliodias6590 and Hal can travel over millions of times speed of light, what's your point?

[@dravensanders6157]

You guys should react to the Alien Ranking Video.

[@epion660]

Agreed.

[@bonejanckles3582]

Agreed

[@anzumiu2892]

@@epion660 seconded.

[@chaoswalker1073]

MOTION CARRIED

[@naveenbaghel3325]

Yes I want you two to react to the other ink tank videos.

[@princelamar1735]

I debated one commenter on the ben would beat green lantern issue and asked him "if ben could duplicate into thousands of clones and each clone turns into alien x do you really think halls automatic shield can block that? He said "yes" these guys are committing no limits fallicies for hal but completely limit ben i mean come on.

[@adamhogan5442]

Has Ben ever done this before becuase these r fictional characters judge them on what they have done not what they could do

[@princelamar1735]

@@adamhogan5442 yes he's clones himself and transformed before.

[@adamhogan5442]

@@princelamar1735 yes but not that many clones

[@princelamar1735]

@@adamhogan5442 he could have those clones turn into ben and then turn to echo echo and could repeat the process.

[@adamhogan5442]

@@princelamar1735 first of all hall can create a solar system to crush them all to stop that and again has Ben every thought of doing something like that in a fight

[@HotHeads.]

You know a green lantern person more powerful than hal died in a plane crash but in the video hal survived punch from alien X

[@jeom3808]

“More powerful then Hal” -_- Also, sometimes writers do stupid decisions just to drive the story forward (instead of asking whether or not it makes sense given the powers)

[@just_a_tepig3611]

I agree Ben should of won but that just seems like dumb writing that contradicts much of what Hal could survive

[@zom8979]

@@jeom3808 why do you have more powerful than hal In quotations? There are several lanterns stronger than hal like John Stewart and Kyle Ryner

[@soraadcaelum2428]

I agree with Kuro so much with the so let's play fair part that's what they do with the winners in each video if they have multiple versions except for Thor

[@jackmafo832]

@@legendary3952 Says the man who has green lantern as his profile pic

[@legendary3952]

jack Mafo ]\ i wasn’t aware that I was forbidden from having a green lantern as my profile pic. Can u explain why it would be a problem. I’m starting to feel a little guilty, unfortunately. Please explain I’m confused

[@jackmafo832]

@@legendary3952 oh, i was making weak justification on how you would defend green lantern based on you profile picture. I was assuming that you're a green lantern fan.

[@jexelbur6872]

You’ve never read a marvel or dc comic have you? The characters themselves say that there are multiple versions of themselves. The comics confirm it, the creators confirm it.

[@legendary3952]

jack Mafo ]\ I am a green lantern fan but I don’t think that invalidate any of my points. As long as I make credible points, whether I’m a fan or not is irrelevant

[@evolvecomputer3546]

i really love your guys channel keep it going

[@tenshi7784]

You guys should read the Ink Tanks crossover comic, 5 years later. It's a continuation of both the shows Danny Phantom and Ben 10, trying to give them the credit they deserve.

[@hulkinglasses7174]

Another thing about the Q&A that really annoyed me. They debunked the multiple Ben army by saying that the episode showed that their personalities don't match so they get in each other way so one Ben is better than 3. DB used personality as grounds for an argument. They never do that. Personality doesn't matter in DB at all and they usually ignore it completely.

[@jwolf1125]

Hulk in Glasses well personality does matter it just the personality of killing their opponent doesn’t matter the rest other personality does matter it like that because they deal with a lot of superhero’s and some superhero have the no kill rule

[@theblackoutexplorer2658]

Jwolfe112 he doesn’t even need to use multiple bens from if X can just multiple him self enough to make an entire black hole tho right? (Those are 2 different methods of cloning) and each X has the same mind connected

[@jwolf1125]

Kid Fuse I never said they didn’t though and your right he can and he does have the same mind connected

[@zodiac5403]

also the only time the personality thing ever stopped ben was in UA and that was because of a glitch in the ultimatrix not because it was the norm. His clones usually work as a hive mind or in tandem.

[@parkercomley8126]

Please react to more Ink Tank! Especially the power scaling video!

[@kingrascal2882]

4:06 Ben has master control so he doesn't need to touch the watch.

[@calvinkopp1735]

Exactly

[@KalinaHitanaVTuber]

It's like you said, I would've been a lot happier with the outcome if the research was done properly. But Death Battle did such a piss poor job of representing BOTH Ben and Hal that this battle in my opinion should just be outright ignored. Ben should've been at his full capacity in this, split-second on the fly transformations, combinations with his various forms (such as mixing Stinkfly's slime with Heatblast's fire, or as Kuro suggested Jetray's hyperspace flight into a punch from Way Big or a ram from Cannonbolt) and none of the limitations of the original prototype or the Ultimatrix. Another important fact about the non-existant "attempt" at cutting off Ben's arm was that Vilgax had extensive knowledge of the original prototype, even going so far as to refer to himself as a "Master of the Omnitrix". Therefore, the containment device he had Ben trapped in was specifically designed to contain the Omnitrix, including the self-defense pulse. This is all knowledge Hal wouldn't realistically possess, and as such, his attempts to cut off Ben's arm would result in failure (just as Sunder's attempt to cut it off with his hard-light axe ended up).

[@zom8979]

They also massive downplayed the watches reaction time, going off the feat they "used" to justify thier argument, the watch didn't just instantly turn Ben into 1 alien to catch the big bag it cycled Ben thro ALL the aliens in that brief instantaneous reaction time

[@KalinaHitanaVTuber]

@@zom8979 One person who attempted to debunk me in comments said that because cutting his hand off wasn't an instant-kill, the anti-death failsafe wouldn't work. Which would be nice and all, if said failsafe didn't activate against Zs'Skayr's attempt to possess him (which by his own admission would not kill Ben)

[@zom8979]

@@KalinaHitanaVTuber except posses and and physical harm aren't the same? Thats a weird counter, that's like saying if your wearing Kevlar and a ghost enters you then that means it cant stop a bullet; the odd thing is Death Battle is half right, the original prototype only protected Ben from fatal attacks and strikes at the watch itself however, DB likes to use characters at there best meaning hed be using the omniverse watch which is the perfected version that actually has litterly stopped Ben from dieing to fatal attacks several times

[@patrickadetola4153]

@@zom8979 That's true but there are times when someone threatened to take the omnitrix by cutting Ben's arm off which was the forever knight guy in omniverse and even showed fear on him showing him a cutting device to take it off either Ben forgot how the watch worked or is further theoretical proof u can take off the omnitrix by cutting off his arm and not trying to cut the omnitrix itself

[@lslightningstrike284]

Patrick Adetola what

[@Oreo_166]

4:36 I don’t know if you guys know this, but I think this something important that you should know: In the end of each Death Battle episode, including the Ben 10 vs Green Lantern, the credits that are rolled show the people who are part of the research team.

[@Santouryu3]

Future Vandal Savage: Green Lantern was the most difficult to kill. I killed him right here... No... it was over there... Superman: O_o

[@Santouryu3]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpewcmWke9SDfJI I don't think John Stewart's ring has a *FAILSAFE* device after he died... -_-

[@missyummy1040]

Also another thing, like what these guy said, i wouldn't mind if ben 10 lose, i just hated how he lose

[@DracaAnime]

You should see the "why ben10 can win against Goku or Superman". It was the first video I saw from him. I really like it and should give you more info in also why he should have win (in my opinion)

[@HelioSuki]

ben 10 can also use his voice to control the omnitrix, this is showed in alien force 4:00

[@darkousdragon1166]

Or as shown in the classic series just a thought

[@robertcagatin3690]

It's still master control just voice activated not thought-based

[@13KuriMaster]

Dude.... that is the EXACT SAME reason Kuro doesn't like Bloxx (and why he was completely redesigned for the 5YL webcomic). Yeah, you would probably enjoy the other videos The Ink Tank has available up right now....

[@titanslayer8458]

@Pyzon The comic has a wiki, check it out for the redesign.

[@pancakiy7531]

Im several years late, but im glad you guys had the same reactions i did when this stuff came out.

[@blakepeters4137]

I've been waiting for you to watch this

[@MouseyThings]

FUCKING SAME!

[@Zombieman-vp9zx]

Me to

[@blakepeters4137]

Thanks for saying you wanted this too

[@SirChoccyMilk]

Glad to see another Ink Tank reaction! But I'm curious, where'd you get that Kingdom Heart shirt, if it's even still available?

[@BARALover96]

Weiss vs Mitsuru is next. Its pretty obvious Mitsuru should win. But knowing ScrewAttack and RT they somehow gonna get Weiss to win.

[@missyummy1040]

Well since they work with rt, i would assume so

[@darknessknows1235]

tbf tho Persona is harder to powerlevel in comparison to RWBY. Unlike the Yang/Tifa fight I could believe that Weiss could win

[@BARALover96]

darknessknows1235 I don't. Weiss has one advantage that is she is able to use fire but even with that I don't see her winning. Mitsuru other then Migedolaon which in my opinion already should kill Weiss since it ignores barriers and her ice magic. She also has Diahan, Spirit Drain, Tentarufoo. She also has her clairvoyance and the ability to analyze Weiss strength and weaknesses

[@missyummy1040]

@@BARALover96 i will feel sad to see Weiss die

[@KalinaHitanaVTuber]

@@BARALover96 Additionally, by comparison the opponents Mitsuru has faced in her lifetime far exceeds anything Weiss has had to face off against. Compared to the likes of Nyx and Erebus, the only thing RWBY related I can think of that could match them is Salem, who Weiss and the gang haven't faced yet

[@Mitsuki_Hariyama]

I'd like to point out that the Injustice comics are in fact Cannon they exist in a parallel universe so all the rules in the injustice comics heck even the games apply to the actual stories that run adjacent to them.

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Hm, if Ben 10 ever returns to DEATH BATTLE in any way, they should just call in this guy to help out, to make sure that they are accurate enough.

[@Springtime562]

2:16 THANK YOU! 4:40 IT PISSED EVERYONE OFF! 7:44 *walks away slowly blushing* I may have called them a few things on KZbin 8:23 well they fucking failed 12:45 PROBABLY?! 17:40 im starting to strangle my stuffed animals again.... 19:02 *whistles her cheeks red as a maraschino cherry*

[@moviehermit5631]

Death battle: _"Vilgax _*_tried_*_ to cut off Bens arm, so that means it's canon that the Omnitrix _*_can_*_ be removed by cutting off his arm"_ Everyone else: "That's not how that wor-" Death Battle _"IT'S CANON THAT THE OMNITRIX CAN BE REMOVED VIA LIMB REMOVAL"_

[@thehighestorder2868]

It is canon though, the episode treats it like it would've worked. If the writers wanted to show Ben's arm can't be cut off, they would've had the omnitrix stop Vilgax's attempt to cut his arm instead of Max Tennyson interrupting Vilgax.

[@moviehermit5631]

@@thehighestorder2868 But there was also an episode in Alien Force where a bounty hunter was trying to get the Omnitrix, and the only way he could separate it from Ben was separating his hand and body through a null void axe. Except Ben and his hand were still connected, and if the Omnitrix were activated on earth, it would transform Ben in the Null Void. Basically, even limb removal doesn't work in the typical sense because the hand and Ben were still linked, and the Omnitrix AI basically took over controls of the hand to move around. And even then, it required a very specific alien weapon to separate them through dimensions. Plus, if the Omnitrix can save Ben from the Big Bang, it can save him from getting his limbs chopped off (at least in Human form)

[@thehighestorder2868]

@@moviehermit5631 When Sunder cut his arm off, it was still dimensionally connected to the omnitrix. He didn't aim for his actual flesh and bone like Hal did. And Hal's constructs are faster than the big bang

[@moviehermit5631]

@@thehighestorder2868 If there's an article or moment in the comics that specifically says that the constructions are faster than the big bang, then it would be acceptable. But most likely, the constructions can only move as fast as the green lantern in question can think (in terms of neurons firing in the brain). And maybe there was a reason Sunder aimed for the Omnitrix and not the wrist itself. Probably because he knew the Omnitrix defences would protect Ben as a priority

[@thehighestorder2868]

@@moviehermit5631 Hal was able to create probes that traveled across the whole universe in an hour

[@RP-zl5ix]

Seth and kuro vs Deathbattle Debate would be a nice match

[@anabear9485]

it would be interesting to see a non ben 10 person and a ben 10 person watching the ranking video just to see the opinions on the aliens

[@aaronalkor]

Plus, a few of Celestialsapien abilities are: Existence Eraser BFR Manipulation Fear Manipulation (Green Lantern’s Enemy) Life and Death Manipulation Omnipotence Also Celestialsapien’s rank a High 1-A on power tier, where green lantern’s are only at Low 4-C Edit: I forgot they also have Willpower Manipulation

[@unitedgibberish4479]

Well sure Celestialspaiens can reach omnipotence and they can if they really tried but it would be a bit hard but yes they can and I agree with you

[@minusjpg2887]

​@@unitedgibberish4479 they are omnipotent by default btw, maybe the 3 consciousness may be like a bit of a limiter, but even with those, when they are born they are omnipotent. That's why Agregor tried to absorb a baby celestialsapien (baby celestialsapiens don't have the 3 consciousnesses yet) and well, if that happened, he would have been THE most scary thing in the multiverse

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Injustice also give a alternate backstory to Wonder Woman. But regardless, i have always kind of viewed DC to be sort of a mess to honest.

[@rxob]

Couldn't Ben just turn into the alien Amphibian transfer Hal Jordan into a different body that doesn't have a ring, and then kill him in that body?

[@InitialPC]

it could be argued that hal would be fast enough to kill amphibian before he could do that

[@sharkt9877]

Boomstick and wiz used to actually do good. Then they hired someone to do the research. Back before that researcher the battles were usually correct

[@victoroliveira6268]

Goddamnit destiny!

[@willier47]

Good video guys. Been following Kuro for years. He killed the whole game when he exposed the bias of Putting together composites of Green Lantern. As far as Ben 10 content watching other videos go for it. Its a really fun franchise.

[@MrkraZzz]

People who claim this is composite green lantern have zero knowledge on green lantern. Hal has used every color ring. They gave him only green ring in the fight. Hal has controlled the multiversal entities of life death and fear. They didn't give him any entities. Hal has been The Spectre the embodiment of God's vengeance. He was not the spectre in the fight. With his motherbox augment he become a reality warping god living outside space and time. He didnt have his motherbox augment in the fight.

[@willier47]

@@MrkraZzz Its still a composite because with his base equipment they are using feats from other Lanterns and old versions.

[@jwolf1125]

Life and Time Podcast I think they did that because the green lantern rings were not affected by crisis reboot meaning the power of the rings stay the same they also compare feats from other versions and give the character that feat because the main universe one has did something similar to it alternate version but if the character hasn’t down anything like alternate version then they won’t give him the feat that why in bane vs venom they didn’t give bane the feat of holding the down doomsday because he has never shown that feat in the main universe since green lantern rings can’t be affected by the crisis reboot then they allow Hal to have all the powers of the old version because they those are the same prime universe just rebooted

[@lslightningstrike284]

Jwolfe112 even if that was the reason then they should composite ben ten

[@johanstenfelt1206]

I like to see both of you react to things regardless of what it is, you’re more entertaining together than separated.

[@JC101_Official]

Hey, just found your channel the other day. Enjoying going back through your reactions as well. And yes, I would love to see a video of just Josh reacting to one of Ink Tank's videos! Also, just a quick thing. After seeing quite a few of them, I do think that in your videos, the audio for whatever you're reacting to is a couple notches too low. Now, if that's for copyright reasons, I completely understand, but if not, could you boost it by just a bit? Thanks!

[@wyatttingle2590]

Ink tanks vid is great though one problem though is his composite ben has the goo guy which technicaly counts as outside help which is not allowed in death battle still a good video that was a just a tiny mistake

[@soraadcaelum2428]

Hasn't death battle done that before though

[@ryern6350]

Technically Hals ring was given to him, therefore outside help.(JOKE)

[@KalinaHitanaVTuber]

Hey, they wanted to pull from every possible version of Hal, which technically includes pre-Crisis stuff that's no longer canon (which is also against the rules). So if they're gonna ignore the canonical feats only rule for Hal, I'd say Ben should be allowed to have Skurd

[@snoopingas765]

@@ryern6350, nice one

[@jwolf1125]

Kalina Hitana I think they did that because the green lantern rings were not affected by crisis reboot meaning the power of the rings stay the same they also compare feats from other versions and give the character that feat because the main universe one has did something similar to it alternate version but if the character hasn’t down anything like alternate version then they won’t give him the feat that why in bane vs venom they didn’t give bane the feat of holding the down doomsday because he has never shown that feat in the main universe since green lantern rings can’t be affected by the crisis reboot then they allow Hal to have all the powers of the old version because they those are the same prime universe just rebooted

[@stormblitz979]

Actually this isn't the first time they component characters they made a composet Superman and with there 100th episode they did that to Mario and suverly down played sonic

[@danielmarmolejo19]

I would just like to see that ranked video reaction, it wouldn’t matter if you did it by yourself or both of you.

[@johanstenfelt1206]

I watch DEATH BATTLE for the analysis and not necessary just for the battle itself, i actually just kind of consider the actual as a nice bonus most of the time and nothing more.

[@blank7062]

I want you to watch it, but if you do end up watching it, then be prepared for a mildly annoying robot voice

[@DLAlucard]

I think you should watch the whole Q&A. Ink Tank leaves out a lot of answers and muddies what was actually said at some points in this video. Let's take that moment where he complains about the other Green Lantern being used for an example. Ink Tank fails to mention it was being used to highlight a fact about all Green Lantern rings. Which was why it still applied to Hal. What was specifically being explained you may wonder. Well those panels show that going back in time using a Green Lantern ring doesn't reset the ring's charge. This was part of a bigger segment going into greater detail about Green Lantern time travel and clearing up some confusion. Now I'm not going to break down everything Ink Tank states. I'm just giving an examples where there is more to what was being address in the video that Ink Tank doesn't bring up. I hope it'll encourage you to become more informed. I understand it might not change your opinion on the outcome of course, but its always better to have a full picture in my opinion. Oh though I completely agree they should have used the ultimate Ben Ink Tank suggests.

[@beforeyousayanything515]

I agree with you on your first point about the green lanterns that are not Hal Jordan still having the same abilities (with the difference in level of power being the only thing inapplicable to Ha Jordan) but I still don't like that Death Battle didn't apply the same logic to Ben, they said that because No Watch Ben wasn't Ben Prime the Sotobro Effect feat No Watch Ben did shouldn't apply to the main Ben, this is wrong for the reason I stated before, but not only that No Watch Ben was using the exact same Omnitrix that Ben Prime uses, and this was the first time he ever used an omnitrix at all while Prime was shapeshifting with one since he was 10 years old. That is the main problem I had with how DB scaled Hal and Ben to each other.

[@zom8979]

@@beforeyousayanything515 they also misrepresent the scene in the Q&A claiming Ben Prime didnt have knowledge of the sotobro effect because he was dead when no watch Ben was told... except if you look up the scene they claim proves that you see that Ben Prime is the 1 explaining the Sotobro Effect to No Watch Ben This was also a problem going the reverse way for GL, the clip they used as "proof" batman got hals ring being due to hal trusting him and his guard down was from the first episode of New 52, however in New 52 the comic series starts during a massive crisis and Hal has been active as GL for years and this is his first time meeting Batman who he mistook for 1 of the bad guys and tried to capture it wasn't till after Batman took the ring the Hal made the comment" Your him, your the Batman, I thought you were just a myth"

[@beforeyousayanything515]

Zom, yep.

[@lslightningstrike284]

Zom keyboard warrior :/

[@koalafromtomorrow5656]

Earth lava deystored gl green lantern

[@dewiseguy6391]

18:00 dude that's broken

[@ultimaboi2950]

This guy just said all the points. That were in the video before they even watch the actual video MADLADS

[@emmanueldejucos4727]

It's doesn't matter who wins or loses it matters to enjoy the battle;)

[@lolface_9363]

Emmanuel Dejucos yea but if it doesn’t make sense it’s kinda hard to enjoy even if you don’t know the characters

[@destroyercreater98]

Emmanuel Dejucos yeah but it significantly depends on the people who won. For instance if a person who barley survived a grenade exploding in there face and is only a bit over normal human speed beats someone who’s strikes are equivalent to multiple big bangs exploding in your face and is so fast that they can out speed people going at hyperverse level then people are obviously going to be pissed off and not enjoy it whatsoever

[@legendary3952]

Destroyer Creater green lantern has surveyed 100 nuclear bombs to the face before. And it didn’t faze him You know nothing

[@destroyercreater98]

The Omega Effect ....... are you an idiot? I wasn’t talking about Hal, I was just talking about that the facts and capabilities of the characters matter and you can’t overlook them cause one of them is more popular

[@yona3271]

sonic vs mario 2018 and mewtwo vs shadow and alot of fights were pretty unfair i only gave example I wish death battle uses the newest versions of the characters instead of fucking bullshit fusion

[@greninjajoestar8771]

You *both* should watch the ranking of Ben's aleins they will explain everything about each on them and rank them accordingly so if you have no knowledge of them they will be explained

[@yareluludag782]

Do you remember way big against Malware and he loses but feedback comes with an epic comeback and defeats a stronger Malware ( because I think he absorbed way big or something like that ) with a little bit of help. That is why I think Feedback is the third strongest behind clockwork. ( I mean another of clockworks species defeated the future Ben 10.000 in his atomic x form ( by the way atomic x is not stronger than aliens x because it is a hybrid of the half power of atomix and the half power of alien x ) with a stronger Gwen from the future. )

[@jojoalvabo2587]

I think both of you watching the video would be fun. After all, it might be more fun if someone doesn't anything before they learn every Ben can do.

[@alphawolf8503]

The argument that the sodobro effect shouldn't count because it wasn't ben 10 prime is stupid because the sodobro effect isn't an ability that ben 10 exclusively has for example professor paradox has the sodobro effect and any one of clockworks species has this ability and of course seliestialsapiens also have this ability

[@rewrose2838]

Yeah it's not an ability, it's an effect that every time-travelling species has (like Chronosapiens and Alien X)

[@Twilight17Petkoton]

Really than why Wild Ben Tenzin only one knows the sodobro effect and the Ben 10 characters doesn't huh?

[@alphawolf8503]

@@Twilight17Petkoton you obviously didn't watch the episode we know of at least 4 bens who have access to the sodobro effect (can't say the same for any of the others bc we don't know if any of the other bens have ALIEN X or clockwork) but ben prime is explaining it to no-watch ben paradox also knows and has the sodobro effect because he is explaining it in detail to no-watch ben with ben prime paradox also stated in the episode that the sodobro can and will be accessed by natural time manipulators automatically so this would mean that Eon also has access to the sodobro effect and selestialsapiens also have access to the sodobro effect ben 23 also has access to the sodobro effect bc he has access to clockwork and before you argue that no-watch ben only had access to the sodobro effect bc ben prime & paradox told him about it no-watch ben stated that he didn't need the explanation bc as soon as he turned into clockwork he sensed the sodobro effect instantly

[@Twilight17Petkoton]

@@alphawolf8503 Nice try but the New Ben 10 beats the Alien X so it doesn't counts because Paradox know time and space along dimensions. So the sodobro doesn't work on Alien X you saw Vilgax wiping every single Ben 10 dimensions on a machine destroying everything everything that Alien X didn't stop. So The Ink Tanks should learn their everyone Kryptonite every Ben 10 can't stop Darkside and Thanatos hell even the D. from Doctor Who along any DC universe and Marvel universe are huge. Than Ben 10 normal universe than own Universe look at The Flash vs Wally West aka new Flash almost destroyed the DC universe Multiverse itself. Even Reverse-Flash can remove the Omnitrix like it was nothing. So Ben 10 way out of his League on DC universe, Marvel and other Multiverse so there different not the same.

[@alphawolf8503]

@@Twilight17Petkoton ok number 1 your using a different ben Tennyson I'm talking about omniverse not reboot ben bc fuck reboot ben 2nd alien x wasn't even there when the bomb went off atmoic-X was who is massively weaker than alien X in cannon atomic-X doesn't even have a universal feat but alien X is massively stronger than universal so already this argument is flawed 3rd if ben knew what he was dealing with or had dealt with this before he would have gone about stopping the bomb in a different way reversing time for example and we know that he would learn from the experience because that's what he did with the inialarg the second time he came across it and 4th no-watch ben (not prime ben) was able to reverse the damage done by the bomb this is a mutiversal feat and he did this without breaking a sweat when he was clockwork an alien who is massively weaker then alien x so if clockwork can do this then alien X most definitely can nice try ig just give it up you are very clearly wrong

[@MekhiTheOne]

If the animation does not matter would it be ok for green lantern to pull out a gun and shoot alien x and he dies?

[@arlen4861]

You guys totaly should watch more Ben videos! Btw you got yourself a new subscriber :D

[@randomguy9988]

Remember in the Zangief vs Haggar battle it was said that Zangief battled grizzly bears but they went out of their way to debunk it and say that those weren't even native to Russia

[@Norrabal]

React to "so this is basically RWBY"

[@toohazey]

1 minute melee is way better

[@ccateni28]

Too bad they merged it with death battle and don't care anymore.

[@Omni_Spider]

Yes! I’m so glad this video was made!

[@artslife4424]

Can you guys do more Kuro the Artist

[@teamatk4game698]

More these are the best I like ink tank and u guys

[@marmyeater]

Ranked Aliens Video! Both of You!

[@De18309]

>Treating compositing Hal across his main counterparts (Which due to Rebirth is literally just his current canon self) as the same as giving Ben all of his one-off shit and all the stuff his alternate future selves got but he himself never ends up using Y'know, if Hal actually was like that made up version of Ben Kuro brought up, Hal would actually just have every different Lantern Corps Power Ring he ever owned. Which means he can just use a White Lantern Ring and literally just cause Ben to stop living in an instant. Lmao

[@jeom3808]

Hal is the ultimate green lantern, his will is the strongest of them all, and his creativity is also one of the best ones, there are no “exclusive” abilities to individual ring users/green lanterns, as-long as you have the will necessary there are no boundaries. The reason why they use other characters feats on Hal, is because there is no reason why Hal wouldn’t be able to do them, especially because he has the strongest will of any green lantern. The fight matters but you gotta understand that their goal is to make an entertaining/fun show, sometimes they do go a little too “fun/creative” but that’s why they bring up the later points to clarify (the logic/explanation matters as much if not more then the animation, because the logic/facts is what they give to entice viewers into debating and coming up with their own conclusion) They didn’t use the strongest version of Hal (parallax) , they did use a composite, but of every story with Hal, same with using Ben, and every story with Ben(not future or alternate Ben’s that have different names or from the future)

[@captainhamilton]

Flawed. Multiple versions of Hal Jordan fail as a composite because unlike to most characters in media, DC has gone through 2 separate universe wipes which completely change how the universe works, and while one of them was nullified(Flashpoint), the one that matters(Crisis on Infinite Earths) wasn't. And thus, the Hal that could time travel was erased along with the previous multiverse, and the current Hal is a completely different character with a different powerset and weaknesses. They are not same character, and don't even come from the same universe. Ben Prime, on the other hand, has been the same character through all of Ben 10, with only his future versions changing due to time travel shenanigans.

[@TacoManX9]

> "They didn’t use the strongest version of Hal (parallax) , they did use a composite, but of every story with Hal, same with using Ben, and every story with Ben" PFFFTTT HAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Good one!

[@lslightningstrike284]

TacoMan ikr what a joke

[@koalafromtomorrow5656]

Um is Kyle ranner a or another green lantern in the future stronger than hsl

[@koalafromtomorrow5656]

Look I get it there a number of ways either coihd have won but siccsirs just feel lazy if the ring can create anything you ingaunge

[@charlieedwards6765]

hello NiTe SHADE. can you please check out Raid Lock Ben 10 vs Green Lantern as I feel like for you Josh will make you very happy to see how the true battle between Ben and Lantern would go. please stay safe and have a great day.

[@caboose8805]

Wonder woman's back story is also different in injustice

[@Langford-Artist]

People need to understand that a rule of DEATHBATTLE sense day 1 is characters are taken at their maximum potential.

[@Langford-Artist]

hames stanfield not really they said even in the deathbattle cast Hal Only slightly won over alien X.

[@khumanthemlenthoitomba5702]

@@Langford-Artist dude alien x didn't even need to fight... He can blink and green lantern is gone...

[@phantomfalcon8104]

@@khumanthemlenthoitomba5702 personally, I think that is a hyperbole as, at least to my knowledge, so correct me if im wrong, we've never seen alien x do that. plus hal's ring can protect him from universal erasure so that probably wouldn't do much

[@TacoManX9]

Unless your name is "Ben Tennyson"

[@victorford5047]

@@phantomfalcon8104 You have the Forge of Creation episode where Kevin states that Celestialsapien "could just blink, and you'd be gone." Having resistance to erasure like Thanos snap slowly wiping you out is useless when Alien X's capacities are infinite. You're just not "harder to erase", it's an instant wipe out.

[@jjoriginal9283]

U guys are funny 😂😂 and new subscriber

[@mdgold8987]

Can Green lantern beat doc manhattan or frankly richard??!… if yes then the argument is over. But you have to tell me how!!!

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

He can't thankfully. I'm not a big DC fan, but even a monkey could see that in the Lantern Rings lore the green lantern is technically the weakest one out there, with all other lanterns having greater power. The reason that the green lantern is the "main one" is because it scales up based on the User's willpower, allowing for near infinite power. However, no Latern Ring can defeat Gods, which is what Alien X is (maybe the White latern ring can, but I can't remember).

[@jacobfrye7647]

Lol the reason why they use Hal Jordan can be compared with other lanterns is because he is the greatest or one of the greatest of the lanterns. He forged a ring from his fucking will and fought Ion. Also Injustice not being canon just means it can’t be counted. The fact that you can’t accept it only just shows your salt on accepting the results. I don’t accept the results and felt GL shouldn’t have won that easily. Lol u say u were pissed off...well right back at you

[@lslightningstrike284]

Jacob Frye what it still doesnt matter if we use that logic i remember seeing a lantern STRONGER then hal and yet he died from a plane crash meaning hal couldnt survive the force of a plane crashing see how dumb that logic is just because you're the best one does not mean that you can be act like you can do others who are weaker then you feats. Plus if they are taking all green lanterns and compositing them into one big green lantern then doesnt that mean that hes weak to yellow. Just because someone is stronger doesnt mean they can do the others feats.

[@marmyeater]

I would just like to point out that they use a statement that says celestialsapiens aren't omniversal to try and prove Alien X isn't multiversal.

[@legendary3952]

M Armyeater he isn’t omniversal Alien x He weak

[@TacoManX9]

@@legendary3952 Alien X can recreate the entire universe, and pretty much tanked universal destruction without even noticing it. Oh wait, that's right. You know next-to-nothing about Ben Tennyson.

[@legendary3952]

TacoMan I know more about Ben 10 than u I don’t know why u would make baseless assumptions Stop your speculations it doesn’t help your argument. Green lantern has recreated he entire universe And pretty much survived multiversal annihilation before Should I say U know next-to-nothing about green lantern too The difference is he majority of people have seen Ben 10 it’s a very popular show. Much more green lantern fans have watched Ben 10 than Ben 10 fans know about GL. So your argument is very flawed. I’ll enjoy exposing your lack of GL knowledge

[@TacoManX9]

@@legendary3952 Keep on posting man, keep going. Been needing a laugh. I've seen the original series enough times to be well-aware of Ben's actual strengths and potential. The mere fact that many of Ben's futures show him off as an even more powerful version (such as Ultimate Ben) renders your entire "BEN IS WEAK!!!11!1" argument basically squandered, since Hal and Ben have feats that can cancel out the other. (Also, a pilot who was supposedly stronger and more powerful than Hal died in a standard plane crash. Imagine that.) But, please do go off. I've always been in a mood for a laugh. I'll enjoy exposing your lack of Ben Tennyson knowledge.

[@legendary3952]

TacoMan my reference to weak wasn’t symbolic of him in the tv series it was a metaphor for how weak he is in he context of other fictional universes As since I’m a Ben 10 fan and not a fanboy I have an unbiased perspective and in have seen a big majority of the Ben 10 community make outlandish claims and promotions of delusion such as Ben 10 is he most powerful fictional character in existence. Alien x is omnipotent. Ben 10 can beat flash, goku and superman. Which are all false statements. And considering GL has over 50 years if comic book feats and material it makes no sense for them to be saying other stuff too Especially ink tank whom is he Mecca for Ben 10 fanboys whom like to promote false advertising. It’s almost as if Ben 10 Fanboys are innately predisposed to lie about certain feats such as alien x can blink people from Existence Saying that tho he way you’ve conducted yourself: u don’t seem that bad or misinformed like others I’ve encountered or had a discussion with so props to u

[@thanos1335]

So basically, Super Biased Green Lantern fanboi came up with the final ending and hates Ben 10

[@justinalicea1590]

You reversed it.

[@thanos1335]

@@justinalicea1590 I was talking about the Death Battle video. The Debunk video was Actually accurate.

[@justinalicea1590]

@@thanos1335 As I said, you reversed it. A super biased Ben 10 fanboi made up a bunch of stuff that doesn't exist in the show and has zero understanding of Green Lantern. That is who Ink Tank is. Don't believe me? Go ahead. Rewatch the videos. Name a single feat he gives Green Lantern. Name a single response that Green Lantern gets in his videos. You won't find any. Just a paper mache statue of Green Lantern that lets Ink Tank talk up whatever he wants with no consideration that it doesn't work in practice.

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

Correct! Hal Jordan just can't measure up to Ben 10. The Entire Lantern Corp could potentially pull it of (strength in Numbers) but if they alow ben to become Alien X it's just simpky over. No ammount of willpower can overcome a God.

[@kryo4491]

The animation doesn't fully matter because they can't cover everything because they have a time and money budget, so they can't make every single *inaccurate-looking* things look accurate, and the battle doesn't exactly represent what would actually happen

[@Champion-ij9yo]

I think Josh should react to ink tank's ranking video cause I've seen it and it's good and ur reactions are fun and funny

[@jeom3808]

People bringing INK Tank like it’s the word of gospel is the most annoying side of this, it’s like there’s no debate to be had because death battle was “clearly” bias and ink tank “spat the truth”. It’s extra annoying how people just quickly went to back stab death battle on their battle/animation and how they didn’t even let them explain on their podcast.(and no, ink tank debunking the pod cast doesn’t nullify it, it doesn’t even debunk the podcast, he debates it and acts like his own points are totally solid and can’t be counteracted by Hal..”not gonna even talk about Hal cuz they already did”... *but what about talking about Hal and how he can react to Ben* ... seriously that part bothers me the most, at least Death battle asked the question of how Ben can counter and defend against some things, they even gave him the benefit of saying that at best he is on par...which given the data, he is. And the data is not bias towards letting Hal win, is “bias” towards giving a good show that can give the characters a decent representation of their feats and overall history.(could they have given Ben even more transformations and spend even more weeks animating more aliens? Sure, could that have given Ben the win, * not as sure as everyone says it is* , and in my opinion, given the Hal presented by DB, no, close, but no.)

[@TheInkTank]

Eh, I think you're misinterpreting my argument. But to each their own.

[@zom8979]

Well they could have worked around not needing to use extra aliens by providing research on the 1s actually used in the fight at which point theyd have realized greymatter's race instantly has a full understanding of how any tech they see works the instant they see it which would have altered who ben made use of, at the very least, alien x in way that worked around the ring, also alien x has been shown in the show to be able to pass thro solid objects at will something hals shield has never been able to counter

[@shia8938]

But the thing is Death Battle should actually show why Hal is on par. Ben just outclasses him hard due to Alien X

[@EvilLeprechuan]

I came for the tears. So much salt in this video, you're making Morton stock drop.

[@Tobi_10k]

you guys should react to the alien ranking video

[@davidholbrook6335]

Sorry about my typing and spelling errors and stuff I'm using text to speech and it seems to text-to-speech engine seems to only apply words to text decent levels when I'm talking about the text speech engine and nothing else so if there's some errors or the spelling mistakes what not when I'm talking about certain people it's most likely to text to speech issue on my phone sorry I'm just saying this so no one to yell at me for typing something when I meant something else just thought I let you know before I get like thousands of comets going durr that's not how you spell that durr it's obvious that's not how you spell it it's just that the text to speech engine keeps on changing it back even though I'm going this is what I want and it goes do you mean fish or I'm going I'm talking about cheese as a metaphorical example not what I am actually talking about.

[@RealTeX1]

Love the video but can the volume of the video be up more please

[@jarianamachado29]

React to the Ben's Alien tier list!

[@colour6693]

Hey the video it pretty neat

[@spartanglobe3381]

Make him binge watch all the ben 10 series

[@koalafromtomorrow5656]

He had master control in video so covering omkntitrx would not work

[@lorekeeper685]

tier list is a good video so your choices

[@joshblackwell8632]

Honestly people take these death battles too seriously and they to move on from this one because the fact that the death battle crew get harassed over the result whether the majority of people agree that its right or wrong every single time is uncalled for.

[@jchris12000]

If the result makes sense as they are suppose to use weapons, armor, "and skills" that this time they just overlooked or claimed Alien X didn't have or that Ben wouldn't figure it out. He seems to do that on a regular basis in the series so this battle had research issues. Most people want to know who would win and not by denying what 1 of them can do.

[@joshblackwell8632]

@@jchris12000 Except for the fact nobody but DC & the creators of Ben 10 can determine that kind of thing.

[@joshblackwell8632]

@Ignatius David Partogi Giving background on a character is necessary others people would just say "who is ____ & Why should care about them or this video??" it helps teach the viewers.

[@joshblackwell8632]

@Ignatius David Partogi Giving little to no knowledge on a character wouldn't make a interesting video which is something they still need to do. And even when they do use real feats people shouldn't always take it as fact unless its Canon or said straight from the writer/creator.

[@joshblackwell8632]

@Ignatius David Partogi People will almost always defend their opinion whether its right or wrong so im not really shocked they wanted to defend the way they saw things. Both the analysis & animation make the video interesting. People watch the video for either one or both it really just depends on who you ask. Overall i just think people should be a little more calm when stuff like this happens. I mean its fine to disagree but don't go spamming/harassing them on twitter, sending death threats or saying they should kill themselves over it. P.s idk who Kuro the artist. And i don't really watch to many videos from the debunk community (If that is a thing).

[@patrykzurawowicz7511]

How about reacting to 1 gen starter pokemon death battle royale

[@chaoswalker1073]

If the omnitrix was a weapon then azmuth would just create the omnitrix with a ultimate form

[@AmitCinematicUniverse]

you guys should watch the power scalping video

[@sayestaakbar2261]

The both of you should react to the ranking.

[@thewarrior6784]

That's why I will never watch Death Battle ever again. They lost all of their credibility in my eyes. I can't take them seriously anymore.

[@legendary3952]

Why You’ve believed. Lie for so long, that you believe it true. Weak Ben 10 ain’t winning nothing He weak

[@TacoManX9]

@@legendary3952 A conclusion you would only reach if you've never seen a single Ben 10 episode before

[@legendary3952]

TacoMan nope I’ve seen every episode And have watched he entire series 5 times already Even writing my own fan-fictions and created aliens. I’m A big fan of he series And have a passion for the character I don’t know how u came to the conclusion that I haven’t seen an episode Just baseless assumptions and speculations. And te just cuz unlike the majority of the Ben 10 community im knowledgeable on other fictional universes such as marvel dc and some anime. Which means i have an unbiased perspective and can compare different characters power levels Unlike Ben 10 fangirls who’ve only seen Ben 10 and think he can beat superman. Goku and flash which is bullshit. And cuz I’m knowledgeable on green lantern too ben 10 would get murdered. It’s a mismatch

[@legendary3952]

TacoMan oh so in order to believe Ben 10 Wins u have to watch an episode Clearly u exposed how oblivious your argument is. I’ve see. Watched every episode and still come to the conclusion Ben 10 loses I’m going to make an assumption cuz majority of Ben 10 dans don’t know nothing about GL despite some insignificant material. So between u and I I’m more qualified for this assessment as I’ve got an unbiased perspective and no prejudice against characters

[@TacoManX9]

@@legendary3952 Don't see it, don't believe it

[@claireglory]

there is no way ben 10 would lose. the guy has millions if not billions of aliens at his disposal. as of now there are 3 aliens much stronger than alien x. and who knows there could even be more aliens on a much higher plain of existence than those aliens.

[@jwolf1125]

green house yes but we have never seen those or know if those aliens are in his watch so we can’t just make a alien to fight green lantern we didn’t make the show the writers did and the writers hasn’t shown those alien your talking about so we have to go with what we got

[@threefingerdeathpunch4259]

Injustice Superman is just to angry to die

[@sakif1145]

Make more ink tank reactions

[@DjPrimeVideos]

You should react to his ben 10 reboot video

[@crazycoconutman9104]

Alien X can just blink and remove his ring and destroy it in a second

[@kryo4491]

All Green Lanterns have strong erasure resistance, do research your research about Hal

[@hadouradiance3566]

Nobody said anything about erasure though.

[@lclazer9248]

Please could you react to original Ben 10 ( you both)

[@jackantaya7700]

Love to see the Bloxx slander

[@SpiritOfSpite]

Toepick would wipe the floor with green lantern! YES Toepick think about it!

[@someguycalledgoober155]

He's going to clean off his table after he's done baking?

[@legendary3952]

Charmie Charneco why don’t you explain Debunk my opinion Cuz toe pick is the easiest alien for green lantern. I would be glad if they went toe to toe. as the fight wouldn’t last 0.5 second. Toe pick is weak

[@Im_Vesper]

@@legendary3952 Toepick's power is fear. Literally a fear so strong that Zombozo - someone who feeds off fear was horrified - and Celestialsapiens - literal near omnipotent beings - are scared off his face. Considering that fear is one of Green Lantern's weaknesses then Toepick would easily win the fight.

[@legendary3952]

Adrian Rodriguez green lantern sign afraid of fear His arch nemesis is fear Green lantern has defeated he metaphysical embodiment of multiversal feat in he universe. You Ben 10 fanboys are pathetic Sinestro to green lantern Is Joker to batman Green lantern battles feat all the time Why would he be scared if he weakest alien in ben 10 arsenal You Ben 10 fanboys need to do your research All you know is Ben 10 and thus humiliate yourself when someone who is educated in the opponent challenges your flawed beliefs. Toe pick can beat green lantern Most pathetic thing I’ve heard in my life Green lantern has defeated the embodiment of he physical representation of everyone’s fear in the universe and multiverse Jeesh give me a break If you gonna argue at least use valid points Toe pick is the worst alien Ben 10 could use. Do your research

[@legendary3952]

Adrian Rodriguez just read it again to try to make sense out of your dumb comment You think Toe pick Could Easily BEAT green lantern Let’s just hope you aren’t a parent yet cuz I’m worried for you children with that flaws logic Get if your computer and stop trolling You troll That’s as dumb as saying peppa pig could easily murder stomps Ben 10 by blinking I really don’t understand how you allow yourself to believe such nonsense Green lantern fights feat all the time That’s the purpose of he character The man without fear The whole concept of his character was that he can overcome anything Hal Jordan is the metaphysical embodiment god and entity of all known willpower in he universe It’s so overpowered that he has more willpower than willpower it self. Including his Which thus creates a time loop of willpower meaning he has infinite resources of willpower and can never be beaten by FEAR. Even if weak anus, weakling toe pick scared Hal Jordan or defeated him he’d use willpower to resurrect himself and cancel out death itself. You Ben 10 fanboys don’t have a clue about green lantern All you know is Ben 10 But seriously TOE PICK You should feel ashamed

[@odyseehasdislikesyoutubesu1892]

2:59 There was a comment i read that said that louise lane cheated on clark with lex in injustice , dont know if it was true LOL.