Death Battle Season 10 Ep. 6: Phoenix vs Raven Reaction w/ Guest

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[@marcusyates3044]

Boomstick: "Will the Phoenix rise again, returning from that far far shore? Quoeth the Raven, Nevermore"

[@SCP.343]

Spoiler! JK. I just had to say that.

[@justanautomaton]

Quoeth the Raven, no.

[@umbrella3235]

Amber: "Phoenix has got to take this!" Me: *grabs popcorn*

[@jourdonpatron212]

People seem to forget that DC characters are broken as fuck. That's why fans underestimate Raven and Zatanna's power because DC doesn't show them at their most powerful in these TV shows.

[@bemasaberwyn55]

I love that people can forget this when there's actual instances where you can see demons like Trigon fighting and winning against beings such as Darkseid

[@neocyndaquil]

I went with Raven after the analysis, because they mentioned Phoenix had soul problems, while Raven had the out for that.

[@seansilv25]

Personally, I started leaning more towards Raven once they mentioned Pre-Crisis Superman

[@carmillaansaac9410]

And that's just WHITE RAVEN, imagine if it was the Unkindness😭 The fight wouldn't even last a second

[@bemasaberwyn55]

@@seansilv25 a broken AF character who can only be blitzed by BROKEN AF CHARACTERS

[@ssjsonic3839]

Nah she ain’t got soul problems cuz Phoenix protect Jean soul and Phoenix can also corrupt souls which Raven vulnerable to 💀💀💀💀

[@Mrryn]

​@@ssjsonic3839I think you missed the point of...pretty much every key part of the analysis. Thinking that Raven's soul was at a disadvantage because it was corruptible ignores the part where she literally cleanses her own soul and realizes her power is her own, not Trigon's...or how she could regenerate her soul from nothing. And then mentioning the Phoenix protecting Jean's soul as if it's a sure defense...when Raven's soul is capable of overpowering and defeating Trigon - an omniversal level power. The Phoenix being able to protect Jean's soul doesn't matter if the Phoenix itself can be overpowered, just like we saw with the final clash in the animation.

[@josephsharp6221]

The reason why people wanted you to pick Jean is because she’s one of the most powerful beings in all of Marvel, and Raven’s last episode even come close to describing the power she possessed in this episode. And for the next time, I have seen more people say Dimitri wins.

[@justyouramateuryoutuber]

I mean, Guts is a sword unit, while Dimitri is a lance unit, so going by the weapon triangle, Dimitri has the advantage. Jokes aside, has Guts ever fought an enemy like Hegemon Edelgard?

[@alexpineda5960]

@@justyouramateuryoutuber no... but he does FIGHT PEOPLE STRONGER THAN HIM EVERY SINGLE DAY.

[@shayminister4922]

@@alexpineda5960you know how death battle loves to do scaling? They’ll say that Dimitri can beat Thales, who had the power output to level an entire fortress, and before that the land of aielel to the point it became volcanic.

[@alexpineda5960]

@@shayminister4922 I know, just making a reference.

[@grimmxlaw]

I dunno why tf they’re pairing Guts vs Dimitri cuz they have nothing in common but Dimitri should win with relative ease

[@marcusyates3044]

Just like Scarlet Witch VS Zatanna, both scale to the multiverse, and could destroy it if pushed to the limit, but the answer is how the abilites work and countered each other And another note the X-Men and Titans meet in the comics

[@Prince_the_One]

Zatanna talks most of her spells which makes her vulnerable against Wanda

[@marcusyates3044]

@@Prince_the_One She says her spells just to help her focus 😉

[@Prince_the_One]

@@marcusyates3044 like i said, she talks most of her spells which makes her vulnerable

[@marcusyates3044]

@@Prince_the_One You heard what they said? Her magic comes from her belief in herself

[@charliecomer6001]

​@@Prince_the_Oneyeah, Wanda tried that in the fight. Didn't work

[@EthanEspinell]

SPOILERS FOR THE REACTION If I had a nickel for every time Amber got a Raven episode wrong, I'd have two nickels. Which is strange, but it's funny that it happened twice

[@yoder6162]

Wait? She thought Twilight Sparkle would beat Raven?

[@stealthynaxo]

How is that strange? Amber is terrible predicting the resulta. Her lose/win ratio is so bad it make Church's aim look good. 😂😂😂

[@GoodNeutralEvilChaos]

​@@stealthynaxo kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYTRdHeDlsR4eck

[@ivanteoh930]

​@@stealthynaxooff shots fired

[@bemasaberwyn55]

@@stealthynaxo didn't she think that Thanos would KO Darkseid?

[@chefbreccia2642]

Props for recognizing the X-Men theme. It was a great series with a banger of an intro.

[@anthonyfanchin1144]

Raven is always my favorite Teen Titan 🐦‍⬛

[@euyemura123]

Corey Pettit (Jean Grey VA in the episode) was also the voice of Mitsuru from the “Weiss vs Mitsuru” match

[@mets2128]

Be forewarned Amber Guts's backstory...is kind of dark

[@Xx-jumpshot_edits]

it's very dark

[@TheEmpiresStrongest]

Especially if you haven’t seen Guts vs Nightmare just for a gist of how incredibly dark his back story is.

[@shadowdragun]

Pretty sure she has his past death battle

[@LordoftheSwamp1269]

Don't blame me, you two. I was also disappointed when Jean lost as well. But that just meant adding a new character for one of my projects. All I can really say about the next Battle, it's gonna get bloody, that's for sure.

[@callmegekkouga]

Corey Pettit voiced Phoenix Kira Buckland voiced Raven who also voiced her in Raven VS Twilight Sparkle

[@ahedjehad8514]

she also voiced Twilight Sparkle in the same episode. it was a callback to how Tara Strong voiced both in respective shows. :)

[@notwesley9180]

And Phoenix's VA voiced Mitsuru in her fight against Weiss.

[@nifinland]

Kira also voiced Toph back in Gaara vs. Toph.

[@novarevenant3908]

The X-men cartoon with the cute art style you asked earlier is from Marvel's KZbin series "Marvel TL;DR" the phoenix saga episode. I highly recommend the series it's very short and it's all on the main Marvel KZbin page

[@BJGvideos]

Oh neat thanks!

[@Animeaddiction]

Raven has been underestimated and the only reasons why she is defeated in comics is because she's holding back. You do NOT want Raven to ever lose control or to cut loose. Trigon is no laughing matter if he could give Darkseid a challenge.

[@bemasaberwyn55]

That fight in the DCAU was BRUTAL

[@masterpink6963]

First episode with Jean and it ends the X-Men Winning streak

[@taurock96]

See, this is why I come up with a verdict on my own instead of listening to people. I still voted for Phoenix and lost but at least I had myself to blame. x)

[@RobertDowney-kj1zt]

LOL!!! 😆

[@shayminister4922]

I swear people underestimate the power of a hero’s relic. Don’t know how exactly they’re going to scale them, but when the Lance of Ruin is depended upon to stop an entire country from invading the land it defends, they must be crazy powerful lore wise

[@DevinDoingstuff]

At best they are building level, maybe a city block.

[@AustinSamson1999]

I can’t believe I didn’t see the announcement that the RWBY vol 9 soundtrack was out 😭🙏🏻 girl THANK YOU! Downloading Guide My Way immediately 👏

[@OathKeeperRiku07]

14:20 It took more than Talking for Kumara to be good

[@OathKeeperRiku07]

Jean gets another L

[@richardturcios56]

I always knew from the start that raven was the Supreme teen not to mention she kicked twilight sparkle butt the last death battle ❤❤❤😂😂😂

[@MrAuthor3DS]

...Anyway! Here's my updated guesses on the cipher symbols so far: (1) Ant-Man vs Atom: atom (2) Chosen Undead vs Dragonborn: two swords (3) Killua vs Misaka: pentacle (4) Stitch vs Rocket: star (5) Darth Vader vs Obito: yin-yang (6) Phoenix vs Raven: recycling (7) Guts vs Dimitri: white/black circle (if it's a moon) (-) Bill Cipher vs Discord: question mark (-) Alex Mercer vs Cole MacGrath: scales Some random guesses to go with the remaining symbols: - wave: Lapis Lazuli vs Percy Jackson - crossed paths: ????? - dollar sign: Kano vs Roman Torchwick - flower: Poison Ivy vs Kurama (Yu Yu Hakushou) - skull: Spinal vs Cervantes (Halloween episode?) - man in suit: Tsubaki Yayoi vs Satsuki Kiryuin, Tohru Adachi vs Yoshikage Kira, Spy vs Agent 47 - beaker: Faust vs Kokonoe

[@Auron1Roxas2]

Technically they didn't lie, they were just wrong. This is another one of those fights where you need to find the small details to determine who wins. Also another fight where the DC character doesn't have as many showings of full power because they're so powerful they have to always hold back.

[@MrAuthor3DS]

You don't remember? Kira Buckland was the post-classic internet's go-to choice for Tara Strong impressions (voicing Twilight Sparkle in the grand majority of MLPFiM fanworks), but is also an officialized VA in her own right. Just a few examples include Marie (Skullgirls), 2B (NieR), Ichinose (Persona 5 Strikers), Lyria (Granblue Fantasy), Reimi (JoJo), and Jolyne (JoJo).

[@demoncyborg8700]

in Death Battle podcast they literally said that Jean grey beats Raven

[@chimelxatrindad1516]

2 things: 1.raven survived (I'm surprised) 2. Don't know much about fire emblem but berserk goes body graphic scary Griffith did a Dio move on guts girl.

[@TheNegative69]

Watching this, it reminds me that this was the last death battle video me and my ex watched before we broke up..... Love your reactions tho

[@seiryukanninja]

Kira Buckland is the voice actress for Jolyne Cujoh in Jojos bizarre adventures and Mitsuri Kanroji in Demon Slayer

[@sethmillerd6538]

What you were talking about was the movie Teen Titans vs the Justice League, not the show Young Justice.

[@Anime_Stand_5]

14:45 Umm Umm… Marvel TLDR: The Pheonix Saga

[@RobertLeitonas]

I have berserk on ps4 guts kill knightmare soul calibur plus Rest in peace kentaro miura 😢

[@escobar9140]

Guts should not have won that fight. There's so many debunks on it now that it's crazy. He still got stomped by Cloud Strife

[@TenryuKensuke]

14:34 Scarlet Witch did want to wipe out all mutants once after the death of The Vision

[@tokubenanimations6506]

That x men phoenix cartoon you said was cute was Marvel TDLR The Dark Phoenix Saga.

[@StormGardenHedgefleet]

Raven's Dad Scales to the Likes of Superman & Darksied which pretty much what Raven scales to yeah I was glad I rechose my vote cause of rethinking how DC Scaling works

[@kyosuke_unbox8909]

Wait how did u change your mouse to eevee?! I want to know how to do that

[@thermonwilliams1579]

The soundtrack was a mixture of both X-Men and Teentitans.

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Hm, this was a nice Matchup, very well done, I would still like to see (TV Show) Raven vs Gwen Tennyson, I hope it happens at some point. Also, since you mentioned Honkai: Star Rail, do you know of Honkai Impact 3rd?

[@Idran]

I'm a little shocked you ran down so many roles Kira Buckland had played and didn't mention she was the voice of _2B from NieR: Automata_ :P

[@warryarusboi]

She also voices Jolyne Cujoh in JoJo Stone Ocean.

[@DjZeroGalactica]

KIRA BUCKLAND WAS RAVEN?! NICE :O NOW RAVEN HAS ZA WARUDO WRYYYY XD :O (YES RAVEN :D) GO DIMITRI :3 (even I'm more used to GUTS T_T) Well done, you two ^^

[@compareandcontrast9833]

Wait Raven, Phenix......those are both birds.

[@artierosesmithie9191]

P.S. Jean Gray Dark Phoenix/ Pheonix is not to be fucked with either. both are gods who could erase you from existence. Or fuck your mind so bad you'd be a nothing more than a mental vegetable.

[@TheH4wkVT]

You should have went with the thickness 😂

[@alex33785]

true phoenix was op as hell but raven on the other hand is overly op...the fact her soul self (which technically is her soul) cant be destroyed makes her basically immortal, only way to kill her would be to absorb her soul but since she is so powerful in doing so herself (making it that you cant take control of it thus linking it to her's and absorbing it) meant raven had the upper hand from the ground up...yes jean did burnt her body to a crisp but raven doesnt need it also i seen people saying raven would be stuck in the whitehot room which is false, she can traverse through dimensions with her soul they even made a little window explaining it in the post-analysis everyone ''debunking'' the fight are just salty cuz of bias...

[@deltaprime3509]

So far been right 3 in a row so far and it’s tearing my my heart each time will see if it’s a forth time😅, I’m glad we are finally getting a fire emblem character in death battle I am curious how they will tackle those characters because you change the class of them and what weapon they use but it’s different each playthrough and how you play. Also Guts heck yes but at same time worried because I feeling they want to go into guts armor and the flaws and weaknesses like if you make bleed enough eventually he will bleed out and die and or shattering every bone in his body and I get the feeling death battle would love to do the math of that.

[@jeremysmith7097]

for the record. those clip's you saw were not from young justice, they were from the dc animated movie series.

[@BadassHater1]

Yeah i am pretty sure now that if Dormammu vs Trigon ever happens Tirgon would take that W easily.

[@bemasaberwyn55]

Trigon is a BEAST

[@rishavrai99999]

Unkindness is equal to Lucifer and Micheal combined

[@tjjordan4207]

Wait a minute! Is the reason why Teen Titan and Young Justice exist is because of DC's attempt to copy the X-Men?

[@marcorodriguez8792]

Raven will remember this...

[@rickymoranjr9609]

@Freelancer Amber you should've voted for Raven, I sure did

[@marcusyates3044]

Just like the Scarlet Witch VS Zatanna, they both to the multiverse, and could destroy it if pushed to the limit, but the answer is how the abilites work and countered each other And another note the X-Men and Titans meet in the comics

[@jakebate1533]

I too was rooting for Raven and was both surprised & relieved she won.

[@rickymoranjr9609]

@@jakebate1533 same here, Raven is badass compared to the Phoenix

[@shiumrahman2418]

That cartoon was from marvel tl dr

[@air_owl-warlock7812]

To Be Fair, I Know This From The Beginning. Raven 🐦‍⬛ Is The Only And Epic Powerful Character In DC Universe. Like There’s No One Can Not Beat Raven 🐦‍⬛. Before This Video Was Live Aired, I Knew Raven 🐦‍⬛ Gonna Win.

[@cranesilentlyplays8084]

Next time highly depends on what they give/scale Dimitri to. In Three Houses, he doesn’t do so hot in any route besides Blue Lions (there’s 4 routes and one route has him lose offscreen to random soldiers), because Byleth is there to guide him. In Death Battle Casts, they gave FE characters lightspeed (Light Magic can be dodged by characters and one of those characters was Edelgard, which Dimitri is one of the rivals of.) Also, the creators of FE count Engage and Heroes as mainline games (which Dimitri is in both.) In Three Hopes, he deflected/slapped away a magic projectile. Engage Dimitri has a Combat Art that nullifies a projectile, which would counter Guts’ ranged attacks and Dimitri’s signature Three Houses Combat Art is Atrocity, which is effective/double damage against all units. Heroes gets crazy, because of multiverse and it being based on Norse mythology and Engage has the main antagonist gain infinite power (via the Emblems) and tries to go back to his universe and his son in another universe is similar to his dad in power (the Emblems, like Dimitri, even the playing field and you beat both of these Fell Dragons in the story.) Dimitri has a Hero’s Relic, which slowly kills him, but grants him immense power and doesn’t break in his hands from his super human strength.

[@aidenreed680]

Oh...so in short Guts is kinda screwed is he

[@escobar9140]

I don't count Heroes at all as canon and I don't think the "creator" ever said that, if they use FE Heroes for Dimitri, then it's fair they use Shin Megami Tensei for Guts. Also, Three Houses Dimitri was "rumored" to have died outside of his own route because he returned in both of them. The only route he officially died in was in Edelgard's route, and that's because according to narrative, Edelgard and Byleth jumped him, remember Byleth has a sword that can disrupt dimensions and the ability to rewind time and Edelgard has two Crests which quadruple her attack power that rivals the Agarthans (TWSITD) who specializes in durability negating magic and can make advanced future technology strong enough to produce nukes strong enough to produce nukes.

[@christiansliva9762]

My money is on guts, dudes the closest thing to the doom slayer but he has a bigger heart and has some cool weapons like its rwby

[@devilbuster7094]

Next time, no more listening to those who are/were voting on who would win in the comments

[@joejrjohnston1001]

Honestly, it's about time that the Phoenix Force is finally dead.

[@matttheoneroessler1788]

I loved raven from the beginning then starfire then phoenix

[@beowchengkan2395]

Kira Buckland also played 2B from Nier Automata

[@axels3188]

This was a good reaction I’m okay with Raven winning since both marvel and DC now have a win against each other this season and Raven has two wins in DB now.

[@joshiewashie2574]

It was in Ravens JEANS that she win

[@cjdragonemperor5374]

25:28 I am just as shocked as you are. Trust me

[@AlanBarrera-hf8bl]

Well raven a kill inmortality burg

[@Mokey_MokeyLordofPuns]

The safest bet in Marvel vs DC. Lower Tier generally Marvel beats DC like Spiderman vs Batman or Red Hood vs Winter Soldier. Ant-Man vs Atom DC wins in Cosmic Tier battles like this one, Tanos vs Darkseid, Wonder Woman vs Thor, Scarlet Witch vs Zatana There are exceptions like Batman Beyond vs Spiderman 2099 or Ghost Rider vs Lobo but these are the general trends

[@nehen2225]

Thor beats WW. Compare the stats in that fight vs the one with Vegeta. Also this fight is wrong.

[@lvlHive]

@@nehen2225 those were about 5 apart of course thor had better stats in a new video, Wonder Woman also got lots of amps in the newer comics since then so that isnt really a valid argument.

[@GhostlyGhost333]

You need to stop listening to the comment section and just make your own decisions. This way, you’ll only have yourselves to blame if you guess wrong.

[@platinumraven118]

I personally otld you no lies. You belived the wrong people, the people who knew jack shit about the mighty Raven, Queen among the Goths.

[@BJGvideos]

Who lied? I don't understand that. Who is that directed at?

[@megamarsonic]

I’m guessing some of her friends told her Raven had no chance against the Phoenix and she believed them. Not really a lie. More of the fans underestimating Raven.

[@darkball31]

*K.O*

[@aersback4496]

First

[@lopao7586]

death battle made raven wins by her soulself is unkillable? i dont think raven can regenerate fast as jean could, they stated raven into soulself form and cast a spell by calling Azarath Metrion Zinthos whenever she was in trouble, and that killed jean, but wait! Jean can also regenerates and reverse magic, as a WPOTC she can sense what will happened, she can manipulate time and space, in fact! how did they say that jean cannot destroy souls? WPOTC represents Life and Death, she created the whole world and universe on her palm, she can ressurect the living things, bring all mutants back to its life, turned dust into water and water into life! and thats includes souls! theres a lot of abilities of jean can do, why the hell this happened to jean? in just one shot of tiny teens freaking magic? blowing like a candle?! that doesn't make sense and ridiculous!, where are those abilities of jean that can resist magic in death battle? and where is the White Hot Room? where?! I know jean could win in other way or version but your community didn't let it happen, and its obvioulsy favor in DC heroes ALWAYS.

[@Resident._xd.123]

Keep cry brother raven wins stop debating

[@lopao7586]

@@Resident._xd.123im not crying hhahha u just didnt answer my questions coz u dont know how to defend ur biased raven, death battle is not the only one who can decide which is better.

[@Resident._xd.123]

@@lopao7586 death battle is a good analysis what wrong about that because lost your favorite character hahahahahahahah

[@escobar9140]

As many times as DC characters has lost to Marvel ( a League of Legends character beating DC's most popular character and even frickin SpongeBob SquarePants beat a DC hero), this is the most illogical, crybaby statement you could have ever made.

[@nehen2225]

Funny how the death battle fans call you crybaby when they can't argue and pretend the show is always correct. It was almost as if db fans had never read a comic in their life while repeating the same arguments of the show, ignoring that the phoenix was burning away thor's soul like nothing and capable of protecting jean's through her whole life. Really tells who the children are.

[@sizer7games605]

I believe Guts will win in the next Death Battle because Guts with Beserk armor will win he hunt demons apostles, and his Sword and armor is so porwer even Skull Knight know this because he once have the same place like Guts in the Eclipse (But it was Void).

[@JABRIEL251]

They lied. Right through their teeth

[@obitoxshinobi8978]

marvel fangirl fanboy lol

[@ssjsonic3839]

Dis episode wuz cap 🧢 want proof I got it 💀💀💀💀

[@Borderlines]

Aint no way The Unkindness is above God of Stories Loki, who mentioned his power over narratives pales compared to the Phoenix

[@silentmyrmidon]

Dimitri is from three houses and Guts is gonna destroy him lol

[@escobar9140]

Dimitri slams Guts.

[@kongsiavang]

Man you dont learn from your pass mistakes at all do you. Lol