Death of Hope Trailer and Anarchy Reigns Reaction

[@Retheraq]

The Warp reflects emotions. She did not want to let her child go. The Warp multiplied it and merged them.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😢

[@bogdangabrielonete3467]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames When talking about the warp, think of Event Horizon, if you know the movie, and multiply that by like 1000. And there are 4 version of that to boot, depending on which Chaos God we talk about. The mother and child were "blessed" by Nurgle, who's symbol is those 3 little circles you see on them

[@olafcorsson3898]

Couple things to note about what's happening here: The ship they're on is currently travelling through the Warp, which is why there's all sorts of weird stuff happening. Normally, Imperial ships are equipped with Gellar fields, forcefields that protect the inside of a ship from the influence of the Warp. The Chaos legions have no need for these fields as they are aligned with Chaos, and thus the Warp poses much less of a threat. In this video we see three different legions: the Word Bearers, the World Eaters and the Ultramarines. The first two are aligned with Chaos (the Word Bearers serve Chaos Undivided and the World Eaters serve Khorne) and the last is as loyal as you can get. It's important to know that the Word Bearers were the first to worship the emperor as a god, when he was still alive. Because of this, the emperor ordered the Ultramarines to raze the city of Monarchia, on the Word Bearers' home planet. This in turn caused the Word Bearers to develop a major grudge against the Ultramarines, and ultimately sparked the Horus Heresy, since Lorgar (Primach of the Word Bearers) wanted to worship the emperor as a god. When he wasn't allowed to do that, he turned to worshipping Chaos and everything went to hell. What's happening to the woman and her child is likely some form of Gellarpox, a disease created by Nurgle that fuses people and objects together into one biological mass. Normally people get Gellarpox from operating the Gellar field generators, but the woman, more than anything, didn't want to lose her child, and since the Warp manifests your emotions, and she's in the Warp, she and her child are now forever inseperable. You could, if you know what to look for, also notice that she bears the mark of Nurgle as well, which is why the marine at the end says she's "blessed". The dog/dinosaur hybrid you saw is a Fleshhound, a daemon of Khorne, and not an animal.

[@RJ_Grendelsire]

I’m familiar with several books and watch listen to a lot of lore stuff and Death of Hope part 1 has always confused me ( though it’s an awesome video). Thanks for explaining the Gellar pox part.

[@olafcorsson3898]

@@RJ_Grendelsire No problem, I love the lore a lot. I'm not 100% that is actually is Gellarpox, but I think I read it somewhere, and the symptoms definitely match.

[@scyxwill5965]

where did you see the mark of Nurgle

[@terlondre]

there is also a Night Lord there at 12:47, but he doesn't do much, just siting there looking edgy

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks so much for this detailed explanation of it all 😀🙂

[@SparkyOrdan]

Ultramarines still fighting for the Emperor while World Eaters and Word Bearers are fighting for Chaos and Horus. Horus didn't want the Ultramarines flanking him on his drive towards Terra so he sent the two legions to keep Gulliuman tied down.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for the brief explanation! 😀

[@Sujad]

Primarchs are brothers and the Astartes/Space Marines are considered to be the sons of their Primarchs so the various legions/chapters consider themselves to be cousins of each other.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍😀

[@ayanleman]

Great vid! Helsreach would also be a good choice, its a 40k fanfilm by one of the guys GW hired, Richard Boylan. Fantastic story. Maybe for your other channel since it can be viewed in parts

[@92chrissim]

Yes! Helsreach is a great series.

[@willgoynes3090]

Giving this traction cause I can't stress enough how good Helsreach is. Its long but you can watch it in its original 5 min clip format if you want to drag it out. So worth it.

[@dragonboy131308]

Helsreach is freaking amazing! And Grimaldus's speech is amazing! Gives me chills every time I watch it haha

[@Hermit_hobby]

It's amazing

[@ddrozdov01]

Love Helsrech !

[@gi5epi_579]

27:50 The Primarchs are all brothers, but the Space Marines who are from different Primarchs refer to each other as cousins, and brothers if they are of the same Primarch.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for explaining that 🙂

[@Sinewmire]

It's a shame we'll never see more of this. My understanding is that we're seeing is the aftermath of a battle. The World Eaters were staging gladiatorial executions, killing soldiers in front of their horribly tortured commander (the guy with the hooks through him). Meanwhile, the traitors are planning to use the Ultramarines' blue armour to fool their way onto the next world. I think that's what "the death of hope" would refer to. I think the woman, the man with the mohawk and the other Ultramarines were left exposed to the Warp. The woman and her baby had bern horribly mutated, but survived. Mohawk guy had not been mutated. There also seemed to be an Eldar in one of the cells.

[@Matej_Sojka]

This was aftermath of one battle which Ultramar lost, due to this being during the Horus Heresy and they did not expect two legions of Astartes to drop down on them as traitors. The ship we see is en route to next target and the surviving Ultamarines are being executed in gladiatorial fights while their armor is being taken so they can spring a new ambush.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍🙂

[@Fransens]

This video is a good reminder that pretty much all chaos related stuff in 40K AND fantasy for that matter is legit stuff you can make entire horror series out of. Just one "measly" Lunar Class Cruiser with its 5km length and about 100.000 souls crew being stranded in the warp with unstable Gellar Fields could be a horror survivial series going for multiple seasons. Onboard imperial vessels you have various different ranks, clans, factions and living conditions that are all just one catastrophy away from turning into intra-vessel-wars. o) The gunnery crews have a different mindset and clans of families that have been voidship gunners for dozens if not hundreds of generations. o) The security forces to keep the crew in check and to repel potential boarders are pretty much as you expect: aloof, draconian and brutal. o) The Adeptus Astra Telepathica or the Astropaths are telepathic psykers (who are shunned and feared if not outright hated by default) but are needed for any long-range communication. o) The voidsmen (sailors basically) are usually void-born families. A huge number of them have never stepped foot on a planet in their lives, same as their fathers and their father's father, etc. o) The crew forced to live in the half-derelict and dangerous lower decks where leaks from the plasma reactor tend to mutate the population there over the years. Remember: Kill The Mutant. o) The small craft crew and pilots are another breed of people entirely. Think top-gun mentality mixed with 40K Emperor worship dogma. o) The captain, excuse me, The Lord-Captain of the vessel and their bridge crew are basically nobility with the Lord-Captain being the King of this 5km long empire of 100.000 souls. o) The ecclisiachy priests, missionaries, dignitaries and novices that try to keep the crew's spirits up while at the same time looking for signs of HERESY and MUTATION. o) The Tech-Priests, who are by virtue of their being already EXTREMELY closed off from everybody else. Nobody but them really knows how shit works and even they only know it by rote memory. o) The voidship's contingent of servitors, likely utterly loyal to the Tech-Priests. Imagine sharing a claustrophobic city of metal and recycled air with hundreds+ of cyber-zombies. Lovely, ey? And those are only the ones that are ontop of my head. You can assume amongst the masses there are extended families, clans even, with their own power struggles going on that are cracked down on or tolerated by security depending on the Lord-Captain's decree and how much it interferes with ship operations. Now put all of them for a few years in the Warp with a Gellar Field that occasionally flickers and lets fucking daemons in and tell me you DON'T have a show that will glue people to their seats more than The Walking Dead ever can.

[@ablacktemplar1971]

10:26 that big fucker walking past is a terminator with one of the rarest armour known commonly as saturnyne armour, there's very little known of this variation of armour and on tabletop the models for these guys were released for about a month and they stopped. I love this variation so much I flipped the fuck out when I saw it.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯

[@ablacktemplar1971]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames it is awesome peice of terminator armour

[@GarioTheRock]

Ended off with some really solid head-canon there, Miss! That's a fantastic rationalization for the horrors in this clip, applicable elsewhere, great mind you've got on your shoulders!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thank you! 😊

[@Inshabael.]

I am glad you guys checked this out, 40k is an unfathomably dark and depressive universe, so many things could have been avoided had the truth been told.

[@thecommentguy9380]

Funniest things that happened during the heresy: 1. At one point, the primarch Konrad Curze hid on his brother's ship, Lion El' Johnson. The 2 engaged in an intense game of hide and seek for months. 2. Vulkan was tricked by Curze into setting an entire planet on fire. 3. Vulkan dying a shit load of times (he's a perpetual, meaning he'll regenerate and comeback everytime he dies) 4. Everybody gangsta til the Blood Angels call you Horus. Imagine the cornered Blood Angels, the moment their primarch Sanguinius died, not only started repelling but slaughtering the traitors. (A large portion of the legion succumbed to the effect of the Black Rage, seeing the vision of their primarch dying to his brother Horus. They all went deranged, thinking themselves their gene-father Sanguinius and see everyone as the traitor Horus)

[@sprocket7862]

"Everybody gangsta till the Blood Angels call you Horus." 😆 I love it!

[@Ohkami84]

Nakal approves. Nice to see reactions for DOH. I voiced the red Word Bearer. Mark is an awesome guy. It was a honor being part of this project.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Nice! Congrats on the work in the project. Hope Mark is continuing to do such great work and getting paid well for it because he deserves it with that talent 🤩

[@jeremybk54]

if you're willing to put in the time could you do a reaction to the Helsreach series by Richard Boylan? edit: also your question about the cousin thing, each of the primarchs are brothers to one another while the space marines under each are their respective "sons". so when space marines of different chapters/legions meet they often refer to each other as cousins

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We do plan to eventually checkout Helsreach. And thanks for letting us know the whole brother/cousin mixup we were having 🙂

[@ellisjahfinelcraddock]

1:10-1:11 That's the author of this game Warhammer named Alan Bligh who had sadly passed away on May 26th 2017 after losing battle with cancer. 🙏🏿😭🙏🏿

[@Dalleon_]

12:30 "Welcome Back to definitely not Definitive I'm Ken and I'm Bethany and we are just a couple of heretics thats realize wich side we have choosen." xD Great Reaction btw. Love how you get into the hole Warhammer 40k Lore and the universe

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂 there is no fun side in 40k. But we are still probably team Ork and Tau 🤗

[@SparkyOrdan]

I was one of them to suggest this. I love the fact that the two of you are compassionate souls, but your reactions are priceless at times.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Haha, we were not built for 40k world 😂🙈

[@NightSterling]

I think at this point barring getting sent into the 40k universe nothing is going to kill Beth's hope for this universe. Now this is my interpretation of the woman and baby merging but since they are most likely in the warp her wanting to not be "separated" from her child was amplified and the warp merged her and the baby together. The creature in the arena is called a flesh hound or as the fans have lovingly named it a Khorne dog is a demon of khorne. Now for the primarchs they are brothers so the marines under them would be their "sons" which is why the marine called the traitor marine cousin and not brother because they are from different legions. And the space marines at the end there who said "You want my armor" got his armor taken after being killed for no reason other than to run his name through the mud because now the other marines who will see "him" will think he turned traitor.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Khorne dog 😂🤣 There is still hope! 🐶

[@Laughing_God]

I'l put some effort into explaining bits of this. This is indeed about the warhammer era where half of the 18 primarch rebelled against the Emperor and a galaxy wide war broke out.(30k/Horus Heresy). So to start from the spaceship stuff and not the planet invasion stuff as that means i gotta write 10 lines of background extra. Most of what you see on the outside of the spaceship that does not make sense are usually daemons or stray souls in the warp. As the ship they are on is travelling through the warp at that time. Next up the troopers that are inside the walls/floors, this is what warhammer teleportation looks like without a proper beacon. It is common error with teleportation without a beacon in 40k. Regarding the lay in the cell, judging by the fact the daemons are very keen on getting there hands on her. I fear she is either possessed, mutated by chaos itself or worse an aspect of a daemon. Assuming it is a human, I truly wonder how much is left. Because judging by the looks whatever is in her, it wants out and all power due to the attitude change she displayed and all. Lastly 2 things, you were wondering why he asked about his armour? He needs it to infiltrate and assault his enemies or that is the goal. With the comment about cousins being simple. All the Primarchs are sons of the Emperor, therefor brothers. But all space marines have a father in there respective Primarch. Making marines with different Primach heritage Cousins.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Definitely helps sort things out as to what is going on here. Keep forgetting about the warp and not sure why as it has always been heavily featured in what we have seen so far 🤗

[@complex314i]

Space Marines of each Legion are made using the Geneseed of that Legion's Primarch. Hence, Space Marines are the geen-sons of their Primarch, To an Astartes, their Primarch is their father. Therefore, Space Marines from the same Legion are brothers. The Primarchs are the sons of the Emperor, making them brothers. Hence, Space Marines views a Primarch of another Legion as their Uncle. Thus, Marines of two different Legions are cousins

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for helping explain the cousin part for us 🙂

[@complex314i]

When I was in preschool, I was asked a question that during one of the lessons that has stuck in my mind. I was shown pictures of two random people and the teacher asked, "which of these people would you prefer to be friends with?" I thought the question was a bit strange, but it was their confusion, annoyance, and eventual frustration with how I responded and refused to alter that response that disturbed me. I told the teacher: "I do not know." She said: "Who do feel is the better friend?" I responded by saying: "I know nothing about either of them. I have nothing to tell me who is the better friend. I can't know a thing like that from a picture." My teacher and the two assistants got increasingly displeased with me. They did not understand why I wouldn't just pick one. To this day, I am disgusted by the fact that humanity demanded, and continues to demand, that I rank people in the absence of any meaningful information about them.

[@SparkyOrdan]

Well, this is during the Shadow Crusade against the 500 worlds ruled by Roboute Gulliuman and the Ultramarines (blue ones). The ones in white armor are the World Eaters (they as angery as the Hulk) and the Word Bearers (the ones in red, equivalent of Satanists in our world).

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Hulk vs Satan. ✅ 😱

[@alessandrobagni6374]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames No Hulk and Satan teaming up against the blue ones, in addition the Hulks and Satans are the heretics while the blue one and the normal humans trapped there are the ones loyal to the Emperor,what you are seeing here is what happens to those who are captured by the followers of Chaos

[@jezmerritt]

The flickering images that keep popping up are, after a fashion, ghosts. As others have said, the ship this is set on is in the Warp, a realm that is as much 'spirit' as it is real. On a Chaos vessel, without the protections that would be found on a more sensible ship, then there's a very real chance that someone who dies there is left behind as a kind of psychic echo. On the line about the marines being cousins, that can be a bit confusing. They aren't related at all... most likely they were born on different planets. However, all Astartes refer to themselves as being the sons of their primarch. It's a big part of a marine's training and indoctrination; their legion or chapter takes the place of family. Throw in the fact that their various genetic enhancements are based on each legion's primarch and his dna, they do share that link. The primarchs, as creations of the Emperor, view him as their father, and as such regard each other as brothers (not that that's saying a lot... 😏). So, their 'sons' in turn might consider the astartes of a different legion as cousins, in that sense. Loved the video, as always 😁 This was definitely one of the darker examples of the 40k universe, for certain. It's been described as an oddly British world view, the sheer ludicrous extent to how completely /wrong/ everything has gone. But there is where the hope hides. 40k is a dark mirror, of sorts, to our own world, taken to the ultimate absurdity of how bad things *could* be. But even there, there is still a fight for survival, for good, for the forces of light to win the day. And while there is still a chance to do good, to fight the fine fight and to be better than the circumstances that surround us, then there will always be hope. Because if even in that grim, dark future, that small ray of light still exists... then in our world, that hope will be that much more certain. 😊

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Oddly British world view…had us laughing 😆 appreciate the explanation on our questions regarding this all. The warp and chaos is so crazy and this was truly grim and dark 😱

[@Mecha82]

That big red creature that they had was Flesh Hound of Khorne since World Eaters serve Khorne. Thing with woman and her baby was good old fashioned chaos mutation. It tends to happen when you are influenced by the warp and ship was in warp. This is first time I have heard loyalist space marine and traitor space marine call each other cousin so I can only assume that it's because they are considered to be sons of they own primarchs that are brothers but I could be wrong since I am speculating.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Believe you are right on the cousin thing because that’s what many others have said as well. So if you are wrong for some reason, you have plenty of good company 🤗 We haven’t heard a different explanation yet 🙂

[@drizzmatec]

You nailed the "cousins" bit just right. If Astartes are "Sons" of their Primach, then the different legions could be considered cousins

[@punkypony5165]

I love you two. Your reactions are so fun and wholesome.

[@mastershangchi3410]

Love to see y'all watching some 40k again. Always enjoy seeing your mildly horrified reactions to it haha.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗 it’s the simple things in life 😜

[@nikot.9920]

Also, Lorgar and Guilliman have a huge hatred and rivalry with each other. That extends down to their legions / chapters, I.e. the Ultramarines and the Word Bearers. Also since the Ultramarines are the poster-children for the Imperium killing them is a huge symbol of demoralizing any prisoners they take, especially for Word Bearers (sons of Lorgar), and World Eaters (sons of Angron) , who see themselves as the chosen warriors for Chaos

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

I keep wanting to see it s World Bearers instead of Word Bearers so it gets me confused with the World Eaters. 😖 Going to get the hang of these eventually 🙂

[@Grenadier-]

Don't forget the part where old pappy dearest had guilliman burn down Lorgar's holy planet

[@SovereignThrone]

To me Death is hope is so visually stunning that the lacking audio is just so damn jarring to me. Astartes really nailed both, for example.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yeah having too much audio would kill the mood a bit. Very chilling watching this 😨

[@SovereignThrone]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames I found some stuff I hadn't seen before, might be some nice content for you guys: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHOpmI2wjqqlY5o (return of the space dwarves!) kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2G2lmhtgtqcgpo (GW's trailer for the Horus Heresy) kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4fYk5eIrrpmg8U (this is how space marines get dressed) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnKWg6CJgLuhhdk (fighting on a Space Hulk)

[@marcinsikocinski4661]

Anarchy reigns is the best visualisation of how evil Chaos is. Nothing wacky, just corruption and degeneration.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yup 😨😱

[@gwilym1991]

Love the animation show how fast the Astartes are when that large.

[@Drocksas]

Videos like this one are an excellent reminder that 40k is awesome... from a very, VERY long distance. It would absolutely suck to live in that universe. The woman and the child specifically are just horrifyingly well done, in every sense of the phrase.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yup 😨😱

[@brandonharrison1974]

I love you two! This is my fav of your videos!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Glad you enjoyed it! 😀🥳🥳😊🤗

[@anguscampbell3020]

You should watch Hellsreach. Its an animation of an audiobook its genuinely heartwrentching and well worth the watch. The great voice acting lends a lot to it and its a really good example of how good story telling in 40k can actually get.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We plan to check it out at some point 🙂

[@anguscampbell3020]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames It's interesting watching your reactions because it helps me understand as some one already invested in the hobby how people can be drawn into it. I do wonder if warhammer could ever really go mainstream because of all the super disturbing elements of it which are kind of integral to the setting. Its a weird mix of extreme juvenility and silliness with incredibly dark adult themes. Its an intentionally stupid setting made by smart people.

[@drizzmatec]

If you want a W40k video with a more hopeful end I would say that the Templin institute video on Cadia has the closest thing you could really get to a happy ending.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks! Hope lives 😇

[@lostkhan1728]

If you're from the same legion you'll call each other brother or brothers because you grew up with them,trained with them and fought side by side withh them. Thats why in the film when the captured ultramarine(guy in blue armor) said "for my brothers" that was for all dead or captured ultramarines. Now if you're from a different legion like the word bearers(which are guys in red the armor) and the world eaters(which are the guys with the white and blue armor with blood stains on them). Since they're different legions they have different primarchs(sons of the emperor) which the primarchs are brothers to one another and their spacemarine legions are call their sons. So if yoy came from a different primarch or legion you would call someone who's not from your legion cousin. And yes they call other spacemarine legion primarchs uncles.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Makes sense 🙂

[@derdingsreturnsnochmal5177]

The space marines in the video are from three different legions. The Ultramarines (the blue ones), the World Eaters (the ones with the crescent-like helmet decoration and the implants (called butcher-nails) in their brains, and the Word Bearers (the ones with the devil heads and books on their armor). The Ultra Marines are loyalists, the other two legions are traitors. On the matter of them calling each other "brother" or "cousin": the Primarchs are de facto brothers, as they were all created on the basis of the Emperor's DNA. The marines of a legion share the same "gene-seed". A mutagen on the basis of the DNA of their respective primarchs, making them effectively said primarch's sons and each others' brothers. The marines of all other legions are therefore their cousins. The creature in the arena was a Fleshhound. A demonic beast of Khorne. The ship, the whole animation was set on was travelling through the Warp, with either faulty or even deactivated Gellar fields. These usually prevent the reality-altering influence of the warp from effecting the ship and everyone inside. Without them, people merge with the ship, immaterial entities fade in and out of existence, demons and demonic beasts come aboard and people are subject to random and massive mutations (which is what happened to the woman and her baby), to only name a few possibilities.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

With the savage fighting we should’ve guessed Khorne was involved somehow 😱 appreciate this explanation 😀

[@calvinheslop2585]

Theres alot of event horizon /hp Lovecraft inspiration in the chaos faction, this video is always the first thing that comes to mind when I hear the argument of what's the most horrific Sci fi/fantasy universe its hands down 40k. It's just such a shame that after building such a awesome setting the company Gamesworkshop treats fans like trash this is a great example there's a reason there's only the one episode.

[@Mecha82]

Not to mention things that were taken from Elric and Eternal Champion books by Micheal Moorcock.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

This definitely showcases the horror of 40k 😱

[@zodiac4432]

@@Mecha82 Warhammer has been created by Moorcock

[@AngeryCrow]

I really really like the intro of this one so much lol

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗

[@leustragaming4386]

That's essentially Warhammer 40k, or 30k for ya, death, blood, terewfying images. So what happened to the woman with her child, is she was being effected by the Warp, pretty much her worse fears, were coming true. Being stuck to a dying or dead child, happened because she had a nightmare or constant fear of that.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

That’s terrifying for sure 😱

[@Sujad]

Oh hey, you actually watched this. This is quintessential 40K. This is why you never want to be captured by Chaos.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yup 😱😨

[@Noisemarine]

The dude hanging on the wall with a mutilated face was an ultramarine officer and was basically strung up and made to watch as his men were being forced to fight a demon possessed traitor marine and world eater marines and get killed in gladiator style combat. Here you see a rare sight of space marines how they look when not wearing there power armour, roided to the max and covered in scars and cybernetic implants that link them directly to there armour. Most space marines refer to members of there own legion as there brothers and marines from different legions as there cousins, although its not uncommon for them to refer to marines from different legions as brother if they feel particularly close to them. In a family context the Emperor is the father the primarchs are his sons the space marines are the sons of the primarchs. Remember this video does not take place in 40k but in 30k when the civil war started and the imperium started to fall apart before the emperor was mortally wounded and needed to be fed a thousand souls a day to keep him alive.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Man. That ultramarine officer faced a terrible fate 😱😨

[@Fransens]

Incase you wonder why there are a bunch of Ultramarines stuck in the floor, walls and ceiling... Well, one type of boarding action is using what's called a lightning strike, a "short" range teleportation from one ship to another. The Teleportarium being used is of course poorly understood tech from the golden age of technology and has a low chance of outright teleporting you away and not making you reappear. You see, Teleports in 40K are low-scale warp travel or warp jumps basically. Even when a psyker teleports they all enter the warp for a fraction of a second (or longer) and, Emperor Willing, pop out roughly where they are supposed to be. Since you go through the warp each time the possibility of getting mutated, possessed, bringing some daemons with you or just outright being stranded... without ship, without Gellar Fields, in the Warp... all of those are possibilities. Sure, they may be rather low... 1-9% chances of mishaps happening maybe... but teleport alot and you will eventually have a "fun" experience. In THIS case the exit for the Teleportarium was probably slightly off for those poor Ultramarines. And yes, even space marines don't survive teleporting into walls. At least not into walls on a chaos vessel full of enemies. (I didn't read the novels so I don't know EXACTLY what happened in this case. All I know it was a failed, last-ditch effort Lightning Strike and people ended up in walls so I put 2 and 2 together and came up with this.)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

I’m not sure how you could teleport knowing that you could end up inside a wall or floor 😰

[@ianlavertue2070]

Another fun suggestion that is oddly profound in it's meaning, is a game that I don't think you guys have checked out yet, it's a relatively short game, but it's a lot of fun, it's called "Superliminal"

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Have not checked that one out. Will add it to our request list 🙂

[@ianlavertue2070]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames alrighty! Love the videos btw, the energy you two bring is amazing and it makes my days better. 😁

[@AcidiFy574]

What do you guys (including the viewers) think about a reaction to the "Deus Ex franchise" ??? Starting with Sseth's review on the original deus ex & then the trailers to Human revolutions & Mankind divided ???

[@SovereignThrone]

Definitely cool!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

A franchise we plan on checking out at some point 😇

[@Fransens]

And yes, this is pretty much what you can expect a chaos warship being like. Pretty sure the Gellar Fields (that fancy tech that keeps warp stuff like demons and other manifestations OUTSIDE the bubble the field creates as a ship flies through the warp) are off on this thing. Or at least only partially active considering what's going on in the video. This video, better than anything else ever produced by anybody, including Games Workshop, illustrates why Warp travel is so scary and dangerous. These chaos marines and cultists are just used to the madness by now.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Warp travel is a nightmare 😱

[@Lobsterist]

It might not be a good reaction video but baldermort and wolf lord roh have great deep dives into the lore. As for a little context. Primarchs are pretty much fathers of their marines, but every Primarch is bother to one another. Thus if they are from different legions they are cousins. Sometimes cousin marines will call each other brother, but this is just a term of friendship, not literal. As for the woman who's clearly been exposed to warp stuff. The word bearers have a lot of dark stuff going on and have a thing for exposing mortals (especially the religious ones) to the warp. They were punished by the emperor himself for worshipping him and believing what the woman dose. Since then they found "new gods" "real gods" The word bearers (the first evil guys, warrior priests) had a major grudge against the Ultramarines (Boy scout blue boys) At the start of the war, the word bearers and the world eaters (angry nails-in-head Boys. Primarch Angron aka the Red Angel) waged a war against the relms of Ultramar, territory of the Ultramarines, AKA the 500 worlds. The realm of ultramar was a very prosperous and peaceful place before Lorgars boys (word bearers) set themselves to cripple it at the start of the war.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Had heard of baldermort before but not wolf lord 😯 appreciate you helping us make sense of this all as well 🙂

[@raykoshorek683]

What are your Top 10 Favorite Video Game Franchises of All Time?

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Tough call. Many of them we feature on this channel 🤔😇

[@royaltyfree9607]

40K is indeed grim and dark but that’s what makes it cool. What is your favorite faction?

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Da Orks and T’au 🙂

[@royaltyfree9607]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Orks and Tau are a great choice.😄

[@nikot.9920]

Death of Hope and Vraks are all great choices for future reactions. Helsreach is awesome

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Helsreach is a series we keep hearing about 😀

[@TheRealRealMClovin]

Death of Hope is kind of what represent what the imperium could have been with a united peaceful functional and logisticly incredible galaxy government, a hope of what could have been. That is the death of hope, the death of what could have been. As this hope of what could have been will probably never return or happen again. Because of and ever since Horus started, the galaxy is now one of the most horrifying places to live with also constant war while people of the imperium live in one of the cruelest regimes ever. Among the fandom Horus Heresy is stated as one of the 3 most impactful/influential big events in warhammer story.

[@adams5613]

Haven't watched you vid yet, but bethany is probably not going to like this one. This is ,what most would say is true grim dark. He's done a masterful job with this work. Edit: congratulations for making it through it. It's beautifully done and truly horrific. Disturbing food for thought: the warps chaos drives organized minds insane but a baby has no rules in it's developing mind. Even this child knew it had to claw the bad things out of its head. That's how innately vile the warp is. I'm sure others will help out with the mountain of lore that was dropped in this one vid. Mark's love truly came through in his work. This , to me shows the real 30-40k and it reinforces how much noone would ever want to live there. It's a "don't let this happen" story. A lesson. Love you two and keep up the good work! 😊

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Glad you enjoyed it. This was definitely the grimmest and darkest setting for 40k (or 30k in this instance) that we have seen thus far. But truly talented work by the creator to set the tone and create this world 😱😨

[@mrblue1951]

You should really watch the Hellsreach series, it's such a good 40k animation. You can watch it in its parts or as a whole film.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We do plan to check that out in the future 🙂

[@hankj.wimbleton_gamer-madn2412]

The head less body at 10 minutes and 31 seconds is actually the most powerfull and advanced suit of exo/terminator/ tactical dreadnought armor tough we dont know its name and no it isnt head less the head is just incased în the armor for maximum protection

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯

[@locknload3394]

There’s another new warhammer 40k video and it shows how a space marine is made

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

The armoring one right? 😀

[@locknload3394]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames i assume you guys watched it do to this comment

[@ddrozdov01]

Where you lost the second trailer ? Death of hope has the another trailer ! With the story ! And also waiting for the Helsrech series !

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We were hoping to see trailer 2 with episode 2 but heard that episode 2 might not be coming now 😢

[@albertobenvenuto9314]

So nice to be home again ;-)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😊😈

[@Fransens]

Not sure if it ever was confirmed as Canon but everybody I know and alot of Warhammer (40K) fans argue that the world on which Warhammer Fantasy takes place is just another feudal world in the vast galaxy of the 40K universe. Why no technologically advanced species ever visited etc? It's basically stuck in an area that is virtually impossible to reach thanks to warp storms etc.

[@dj11o9er]

Honestly, it would just make more sense that Fantasy just is its own thing. After all, 40k was originally meant to be a sci-fi Warhammer Fantasy, but got expanded so far into what it is now that it eclipses Fantasy to varying degrees

[@MichaelMcDougall-ed7fp]

i think that both of you would like reacting to stellaris trailers they are really good and i think you would also like if the emperor had text to speech device

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Both in our list to check out at some point 🙂

[@Timasion]

To add on to what Olaf Corsson put down, this video takes place after the Battle of Calth. The Battle of Calth is where the Word Bearers betray the Ultramarines. Long story short, both legions were supposed to be mustering at Calth to attack an Ork formation. Except this wasn't true. The whole plan was to get the Ultramarines to put their guard down and allow the Word Bearers to attack them and wipe them out. While the Ultramarines took horrific losses, the Word Bearers ultimately (ha) failed in that the Ultramarine Legion was able to recover. Afterwards, the World Bearers and World Eater Legions invaded the Ultramarine's space (called Ultramar) and attacked multiple planets. The Ultramarines were eventually able to drive them off, but the traitors were able to take out 100 or so planets. The space marines with the demon-like face on their pauldrons are Word Bearers. The space marines that covered with the upside down Omega letter are Ultramarines. Based on the information, this particular ship is not with the main Word Bearer/World Eater fleet. They have struck out on their own and have taken prisoners. It also looks like one of their ploys is to have their own Space Marines pretend to be Ultramarines to gain a tactical advantage. The very last scene is not clear. It may be some Ultramarines who have somehow stowed away on the ship and are about to lead an attack. Or it might be some Word Bearers who have put on Ultramarine armor. Also, that speech you hear in the trailer: "Take me from my home and I will sail to the stars of your empire. I will serve as a son must serve. But let Colchis stand as I have shaped it: A planet of peace and prosperity." There is a certain amount of irony in that statement as it is attributed to Lorgar, the Primarch of the Word Bearers. Also, Colchis was a planet dedicated to the worship of Chaos. It was just hidden very well.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Glad the Ultramarines were able to survive and beat the double cross of Word Bearers 🙂

[@mateusferraridemelo4863]

Hey you should see the templim institute video about the Tyranids, they're my favorite faction in Warhammer 40K, I just love how they work and how they take over entire worlds just to survive and evolve, in the Warhammer univer I would definitely be a member of some gene cult. 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for the vid rec! Looking forward to more videos on Tyranids and 40k in general 🙂

[@Gruber122]

The other trailer is good as it shows abit of the Word Bearers being punished for worshipping the Emperor and the emperor himself goes and with a single thought makes the entire legion kneel to the ultramarines... "it was at this moment we knew god was real... and he hated us"

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯

[@axelgarcia4188]

Hope is not dead your right if you want an example of hope look at the salamanders or the lamenters and you'll see that hope still lives heck ill give you a quote for one of those. -for those we cherish we die in glory!-

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We did see that the salamanders were good for sure 🙂

[@vkarvanzer4243]

Best intro ever lmao

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😜🤗

[@effigytormented]

According to Dan Abnett there is room for hope with a little h.

[@MrDuDeTheFirst]

Lord of the rings fans:"I wish i could be an elf in middle earth!" Star wars fans:"I wish i could be a Jedi in a galaxy far far away!" 40k fans:"I'am good..."

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂

[@alien_planets_exist1359]

Love you guys. Keep up the videos 😉

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks! Appreciate the love and support 🥰🤗😊🥳😎🤟

[@mikaoxton]

I think if you want something based on Warhammer with a finished story, then the "W40K: Helsreach" fan mini-series is best.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yup. Plan on checking that out eventually 🙂

[@kalaegambol7195]

I would recommend you guys watch the fan animation siege made by Sodaz

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍😀

[@kuranhelix278]

Bethany is out for blood today hahahaha

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Would’ve almost thought it was a fight night Friday with how feisty she is 😁😈

[@Fransens]

Does it look like Event Horizon? If you haven't seen Event Horizon yet, I HIIIIGHLY reccommend it. While not being a Warhammer 40K movie in name it basically explores the same premise: Faster Than Light travel by using an alternate dimension where the laws of space and time don't exist... ...but what if that dimension happens to be HELL. Not Hell as in a manner of speaking but literal HELL.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Bethany says Event Horizon is scary as hell but I’ve never seen it 🤔

[@Retheraq]

Well this is a nice surprise 😮

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😈😁 we aren’t done with 40k. Just had a brief interlude of some Total War Warhammer (which we are also not done with 🥳)

[@Frigadingo]

It's finally here. Grest vid. Suddenly team Imperium doesn't seem so bad compared to the insanity of chaos.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂 true. All things relative in this dark universe 😝

[@rbwbr]

I think the fact that you were watching it in almost compete silence tells a lot about this piece. Also, Chaos are not good people >___>

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yeah it was a chilling piece indeed. Couldn’t really make jokes about it and it was captivating. Horrifying to watch but couldn’t stop watching it 😱😨 Very well done 🙂

[@TwoSevenX]

Technically speaking this version of warhammer doesn't exist anymore; the characters and events still do, but the context has greatly changed as warhammer has become a more global (and therefore monetizable phenomenon), This reflects the state of the game around third edition when basically no punches were pulled and warhammer was a 100% adult property. The warhammer of today is a more tongue in cheek self aware property and most of the ultra dark humor and not so much humor has been pushed way way far to the back. It's still very much warhammer, but this version was definitely not for kids or casual fans. The 'cousin' is the outcast ultramarine that led the Loyalists onto the ship, and the guy in the gimp harness was a scout-applicant, a marine in name but not yet implanted with organs to become xbawx hueg and sturdy. Basically should he survive the pits, the Chaos marines MIGHT finish his process into becoming an Astartes, provided he switched sides, of course.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Ah okay. That makes sense. This is super dark indeed 😨😱

[@ВладЧмых]

Ken, where are you going? I'm going to behave like that priest: fuck it! Ken! Well, did you see?! 🤣🤣🤣 Cool start of the video!) I wish your reward for 100,000 subscribers would come as mono faster!)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🤗 glad you enjoyed the intro to the video! ☺️

[@ianbruce1745]

Yessss more 40k! Y'all already know what I'm gonna request next for 40k hahaha Helsreach soon please :D Bethany ought to like it, there is some hope there!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Helsreach will definitely happen but it’s quite the undertaking with so many episodes 😅

[@ianbruce1745]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Indeed! No rush obviously, do what's easiest and most convenient for y'all please!

[@vexron5872]

I'm unsure if you've already seen it or not, but I highly recommend watching Pootis Engage and Pootis Engage // EXTREME. They're both made by Ceno0 and are hilarious and cartoonish.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We haven’t seen it yet but have it on our request list 🙂

[@shieldwallofdragons]

Great reaction!...this one definitely dives into the horror aspect of 40K...in the eyes of 40K and Fantasy Warhammer there are heretics...so you guys are good to go it seems.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

This one was brutal for sure 😱😨 Nice to come back to 40k in style 😂

[@syverflem6453]

You guys should react too players from LEC like the ones from G2, like Caps and perkz since you watch alot of league of legends

[@schmogli110]

Chaos is just a wonderful place, right?

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Would love to vacation there 😱😨

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

You two have got to react to The Siege of Vraks by Janovich

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

On our request list 🙂

[@paul-antonywhatshisface3954]

Your gonna loooove helsreach ☺️

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Looking forward to it 😁

[@maciejdrewnik1537]

You missed "God Was Real And He Hated Us" kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zqjapqqjl7uJrMU Few extra scenes to DoH.

[@maciejdrewnik1537]

And there is second trailer for DoH. Also some extras.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Oh damn. Thanks for sharing the link. Will try to fit in somewhere 🤔🙂

[@maciejdrewnik1537]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZvGpox3bJZngNk

[@The_Lurker]

No matter what you do today, do be sure and make some time... for... Fun

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Agreed! 🥳

[@vaiper3548]

By the way, the video "state of the play. The Legacy of Hogwarts"

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍

[@cyclone8974]

You should watch Hammer and Bolter: In the Garden of Ghosts

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

New request to add to our list 🙂

[@cyclone8974]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames it's on Warhammer+ though like $5 a month there are some good animations there.

[@lukewarmwater6713]

You should react to Xbox Ahoy Iconic Firearms, he makes a interesting short essay video, and surprisingly catches the audience attention. Notable videos are: P90, FAL, and the Flamethrower.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for the channel rec 🙂

[@raykoshorek683]

Can you do a new videos of All Pyschopath/Boss Fights from the 'Dead Rising' Series for me, please?

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We will get to that franchise at some point 😅

[@Perturbator996]

Hi guys. Love your reactions, you both are awesome! Can you do reaction on "Armouring a space marine" and "Vraks, chapter 1" please? If it is in one video, would be very cool 🥰

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed the reaction. We have both of those on our request to check out at some point 🙂

[@zacmason3593]

if want you should reacts to templin institute about the orks and necrons and tyranids they are best videos it give you deep idea what each of them are all about and the ork one it's funny

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We probably need an ork video next for some good humor 😁

[@azron4537]

Sir, u miss trailer 2...

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😖

[@risingforce9291]

There is a recent video uploaded. please check out Warhammer Horus Heresy.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We plan to 🙂

[@lieutenant-hound484]

Dragon………👀…………ball

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Haha. Love the creativity there 😜

[@lieutenant-hound484]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames how close is it? Im literally on the edge of my seat here. Just a small lik hint. Please👀. Pwetty please🙇‍♂️

[@TheGoldenChild134]

Never heard of this.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

It’s a 40k (or I guess 30k) thing. Dark as usual

[@Arkilonn_]

I really suggest you to react to Healsreach

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We plan to check that out eventually 🙂

[@leonkennedy2502]

Guys i dont remeber U to do STAR WARS games like Forcw unleashed .... or JEDI FALLEN ORDER and prequels like JEDI ACADEMY or FORCE UNLEASHED and so much more :) and btw love U guys 😙

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Here is our reaction to Jedi Fallen Order kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ_Mk2Swi8lge7M 🥳

[@synpapy8906]

Yes !!!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😈🥳

[@TheGoldenChild134]

Wow!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yeah. Pretty crazy 😱

[@fireorion8170]

ДРУГ ЛАЙК😀

[@Vwall007ST]

You guys need to react to the new Hogwarts legacy gameplay trailer and the behind the scenes, it was amazing and blew me away!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Been hearing good things about that lately 😀

[@richardmyhan3369]

Yeah, those blueberry boy scouts aren't having a good time. Lol.