Warhammer 40k Triple Reaction Kill Team, Space Marine Armouring and Horus Heresy

[@enzovignati]

9:20 "He has dad issues" The only one, on all fandom, to totally understand Horus

[@W00KYs]

Jeah, Beth nailed the core of the problem there. And that WITHOUT having read any of the books and probably not knowing most of the lore beyond trailers. Lot's of kudos to Beth there!

[@Kevkoss]

"He has dad issues" + "Dad is an asshole" are 2 phrases that almost 100% summarize whole Horus Heresy ;>

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗😊

[@SpiritoftheWolf28232]

Literally every traitor Primarch's reason for turning. Except Alpharius. But that is a lie.

[@boingfliip5876]

Yep.

[@Bobcat173rd]

A horror 40K show would just be a 40K show. Everyday life of a guardsman.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂 fair enough 🤗

[@zacharyharwell351]

Episode 4: Clearing an Infestation Guest Appearances: The Hive Mind

[@NuclearFridge1]

True. 0600 hours, go out on patrol with the squad. Ten minutes later, the comms start relaying weird chanting. Then your shadow comes to life and rips you to pieces. And that's what a Guardsman would consider "Tuesday".

[@DragoonDante]

Space Marine armor has extensive recycling systems within it, allowing the battle brother to remain active for several weeks or even months without nutriant resupply or "sleep" even. Sleep meaning "I close my eyes for 15 minutes and am ready to go for the next week or two" and that is not a joke.

[@sciarpecyril]

Space Marines still need at least an hour of sleep per day, preferably more. But they are able to stay awake for many days, deliberately turning off some parts of the brain and thereby providing themselves with some rest. However, this is not a substitute for a good night's sleep. I will also add that the Militarum Tempestus Scions are also capable of not sleeping for about two or three days in a row, remaining fully combat-ready. However, they are ordinary people and this ability has been achieved by intensive training since childhood.

[@mercurioslevin1877]

The sleep thing was more down to their geneseed modifications but some of the more...... odd ones have been very down played by GW like the whole "they can spit acid" which I guess is GW doing a very soft retcon of the more wild ideas from its more whimsical early phase when heroes could take hover boards as wargear

[@Aaron-io8vw]

@@mercurioslevin1877 your just probably reading alot about chapters like the Imperial Fists, Crimson fists or Black Templars that are from Primarch Rogal Dorns gene line, the extra organ that allows them to spit acid does not work for them. Recent novels and shory stories featuring other Chapters like Dark Angels, Ultramarines, Ravenguard or their sucessors have used the acid spit as a plot device. In one of thr Horus Heresy short stories a bunch of Night Lords who where captured by the Dark Angels use the acid spiting ability to escape the cell they were imprisoned in.

[@jordinagel1184]

@@Aaron-io8vw seems like kind of an oversight on part of the Dark Angels… That would be like Superman imprisoning Hancock in a regular jail with an open courtyard and being surprised when he just flies away

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Man that sleeping way of life would make life so much more productive haha. Although, we still love sleeping and naps and such so we would make shit space marines 😂

[@davequinn2902]

"He has daddy issues" Literally sums up the entire horus heresy

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗

[@gravitatemortuus1080]

Maybe in this case it has a point.

[@bogdangabrielonete3467]

Can some explain to me what issues did Horus have exactly with Big E, considering he was the Emps favourite son? Mortarion, Perturabo, Angron, Lorgar and Konrad I can understand. But what issue did Horus have prior to being corrupted? Angry that the Emperor halted The Big Crusade?

[@davequinn2902]

@@bogdangabrielonete3467 he was manipulated by Erebus into believing that Big E ditched the crusade to establish himself as a god. It's all in the 2nd book of the series, my dude

[@ooxOBHOxoo]

@@bogdangabrielonete3467 It all started when the Emperor decided to name Horus as Imperial Warmaster (=Chief of Staff), and left the Great Crusade to go back on Holy Terra without sharing his motives. He wanted to work on a system allowing his fleat to cross the galaxy in a much safer way than going through the Warp. As he kept it secret, to prevent attempts from his greatest ennemies, the Chaos Gods, to ruins his plans, a lot of people in his armies, even among his sons, the primarchs, felt abandonned, and their trust was shaken. During a battle against a demon armed with a really powerfull demonic blade, Horus was fatally wounded. Then, one higher officer under Horus command, claimed he had a way to heal him through some sacred ritual. Despite some of his close commanders having suspiscions about that officer and advised him not to do it, Horus accepted. Of course, that man was a heretic serving the Chaos Gods. Through the ritual, Horus's mind was projected through the Warp, where the Chaos Gods twisted his mind. Claiming the Emperor made a deal with them to borrow their power to lead humanity, in their name, to a great destiny. But, allegedly, the Emperor deceived them and kept their powers. One of the other primarchs, Magnus, head of the Thousands Sons and most powerfull psycher among the Emperor's sons, projected his spirit to reach his brother's mind and talk him out of it, but Horus didn't listened, and when he came back to his senses, completly healed, he was changed. Feeling betrayed and humiliated, he started planning his "coup" to free humanity from the man he thought was protecting and leading it. Not realizing that he had become a puppet of the Dark Gods. This was really summerized. if you want to have more details, look for Lorgar, Kor Phaeron, Erebus. You can also look for Magnus since what happened to him was really tragic, he's the archetype of the good guy who has the best intentions, but makes the wrong choices and ends up being consumed, in a last ditch attempt to protect his own. And, you know, basically any lore available about 40k x)

[@rbwbr]

9:12 "Let the galaxy burn" This is a so iconic phrase

[@VernulaUtUmbra]

1:58 That, my friends, is a Squig. It's an offshoot of the Orks that is basically an all-in one Ork "animal". It's at the same time a warbeast, cattle, and workhorse. It's so far down the Orkish heirarchy that it's not even considered to be an ork despite being the same type of fungus monster.

[@Gruber122]

and bomb delivery device

[@fukushinvect9574]

Squigs are also musicinstruments and way more, gotta love those small ones

[@souldanny.]

It's also a haircut!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

All in one Ork Animal 😂 sounds like an infomercial for Squigs 😆

[@jeffrieslambing1150]

U forgot the hair!

[@huehue3687]

If you want to explore something more character driven inside of 40k, Helsreach is fantastic.

[@mouseketeery]

Absolutely!

[@dragonsblaze7961]

This so much!

[@JJoJam]

Yes, please! I finally watched RBoylan's animation a couple months ago. I don't know how it compares to the books, but I loved the Grimaldis's speech and when the Salamanders and Sisters joined in the defense.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We do plan to eventually check that series out 😀

[@Noisemarine]

@@JJoJam It's pretty much exactly as the book with a fair amount cut out.

[@Retheraq]

Henry Cavill is a huge fan of 40k. He might be pushing more for having this on big screen.

[@JJoJam]

I believe he may have mentioned wanting to depict a named inquisitor character once.

[@Gruber122]

apparently the inquisitor eisenhorn live action is still progressing

[@Retheraq]

@@JJoJam he doesn't, others want to. He said if he did he would be "burning" a Primarch, so obviously he wants to play a Primarch.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

It’s so cool that he is into gaming and was playing WoW when he got Superman role 😂 Just feels like this is too big for a movie. So much to jam in there and for the uninitiated it takes awhile to figure out which way is up in this 😅

[@JJoJam]

@@Retheraq We should start a petition to have him play Leeman Russ. He's already the white wolf in another franchise.

[@rakat2746]

Perhaps I can help. First Trailer Kill Team: This creature is a Squig. Its a part of the different Orc-species and also a parasite. Like a louse, but bigger and with more teeth. Second Trailer: Yes. The human of this age see the Astartes as living saints. The angels of the Emperor. And every part of theres equipment is holy. So its a religious ritual when a Space Marine puts on the armor.^^ and the third: Yes the Horus Heresy. The biggest Civil War for all times.

[@hujron]

The technology of 40k has gone through millennia of progress and then millennia of decay after the Dark Age of Technology when knowledge was lost and ancient technology is poorly understood. Hence there is a religious significance to the maintenance of equipment, weapons and armour. It doesn't help that many of these things have machine spirits

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for answering our questions on these 😀

[@ArchivistMarker]

Ah, Horus heresy, the most dramatic Domestic Issue ever.

[@angrysocialjusticewarrior]

@@hujron Don't machine spirits help delay chaos corruption? Don't forget, chaos does not only posses living beings, but can also physically corrupt and mutate inanimate things including machine and wargear. Yet Mechanicus gear that has went through rituals hardly ever gets corrupted. So i don't think the mechanicus perform rituals because they are too "dumb and primitive" to understand gold era technology. Gold era technology has a critical flaw in all of its design (the human society who designed it never accounted for the danger of chaos and the warp). Even the AI and men of Iron turned against humanity because they were corrupted by chaos as a result of being soulless (i.e having not machine spirit). Machine spirit is important and the techpriests know what they are doing when performing rituals. It was actually those from the golden age who did not know what they were doing and were primitive in their design philosophy.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@ArchivistMarker Only comparable to the IRL domestic issues that sparked WW1...

[@Gruber122]

that horus heresy one gives me tingles, love the scene where they running along side the titan

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎🤟😊

[@FR4M3Sharma]

Everyone : Wow, that's so intense and terrifying. Betthany : How is he going to pee? I fucking died there. lmao. 😂

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Haha, it’s the little details she worries about 😂

[@TheVleckChannel]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Do not underestimate a Marine's ability to hold it in for hours...or days...or weeks.

[@BananenbaumEY]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames an Astartes doesnt pee btw. His biological host is too advanced.

[@qugo8158]

You should also try reacting to the Emperor Text to Speech series. Starts off with information about Warhammer 40K but then transitions into this amazing plot and storylines with awesome characters. Highly recommend.

[@jeremybk54]

yes please react to the TTS series

[@luckyflynt1646]

yeah that would be awesome

[@deuscidius6357]

Ngl would love a reaction to that

[@delios1178]

My suggestion would be only react to the tts series if you have good knowledge about the 40k lore. Otherwise half the the time you will be like ' what is he talking about? I didn' t get that. '

[@deuscidius6357]

@@delios1178 i mean they have some basic knowledge since they saw the bricky videos other than that they've watched a lot of 40K game trailers, i would imagine they could watch it and understand more than 60%

[@nadeeml9276]

Another FANTASTIC reaction! The Armouring of a Space Marine, wow, one of the most interesting animations by games workshop. I remember them saying that whatever was in that video is canon, every screw, bolt, plug...etc. And in the Kill Team trailer, it's nice seeing the Orks go up against the indomitable Death Korps of Krieg. And of course to end it off with the Horus Heresy, I mean that trailer was jaw dropping. It's all the over the top warfare we expect from WH40K. Thanks for another great reaction!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Glad you enjoyed it! We did as well. Every trailer we saw here was very well done and had a different vibe for each one while still being very 40k 😈😁

[@nikypercea]

my only issue with that is the pace... to slow !!! by the time you armor a chapter, the entire imperial guard army dies.

[@joesjohnjohnnyjohnson4609]

You should react to "The Last Church" Warhammer 40k Animation. You will not be dissapointed.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

On our 40k request list to check out 😀

[@joesjohnjohnnyjohnson4609]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Im gonna stop everything im doing when i get that notification just to watch you guys reaction xD

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Also, unless you already have, check the Horus Heresy series "End of Hope" by Mark Louis Spark

[@touchdown8769]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames I agree with the Last Church it is an amazing short film that gives deep insight of the Imperial Truth, the core belief of the Emperor of Mankind in uniting humanity. It is a 1 hour movie and if possible I suggest reacting to it in one go without dividing it into episodes since it really explains a lot about the character of the Emperor. I guarantee it is worth it finishing it in one go.

[@BrokenRealms]

'He's got daddy issues' Every Primarch in a nutshell lol

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂

[@grapechu5358]

What I like about the Killteam trailer is the ending implies the Krieg were planning on dying and taking the orks with them by how big the explosion is at the end.

[@CorporateG0th]

7:22 the suit handles it. Theoretically it can recycle any waste back into nutrients. But the suit feeds those nutrients intravenously (removing the need to eat) and gives their body exactly how much it needs.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Good thing you don’t need to eat the waste 🤢😎👍

[@RichardX1]

More likely just reducing the need to eat.

[@CorporateG0th]

@@RichardX1 well yeah unless they eat on top of what the suit feeds them they don't produce waste at all.

[@somerandomdude4365]

It's easy to see GW got some new talent on board. Quality in all departments just looks way better than in the past for what you'd expect from a 40k universe to look and feel like. Super great atmosphere.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yup. Game was upped for these for sure 🤩

[@dodge7729]

I think it’s the guy who made the fan film called astartes! Very good worth a watch if you can find it still, GW copyrighted it and bought the guy out and gave him a Job! At least that’s what I’ve heard

[@sushiamg5767]

"I still wanna know how they pee" Depending on the armor model, all space marine excrements are used up in 3 big ways. 1. Cooling, liquids such as urine and sweat are used as cooling 2. solid waste escapes as gas through the exhausts in the backpack (I think deathwatch for reference) 3. what can be is recycled and reintroduced into the space marines as sustenance. Yeah the sources are Uriel Ventris, the Deathwatch rule book and old space marine codex (2e??)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Okay well at least the solid waste isn’t used as recycled food but is instead fuel of sort, which makes sense 🤔

[@pizzacough4555]

In my personal opinion your videos are my favorite from the dozen or so reaction sites I've continuously watch. Simply because you two don't talk during the dialogue! So very many reaction videos have the reactor speaking the whole time through the video that dialogue is missed and even the reactors don't catch what they're listening to. You two, do that differently. You watch, and any comments you have are short, sweet, and not during the dialogue. So only in your videos, I'm able to listen and watch your reactions as well as watch the video along with you both! That is such an enjoyable experience, and I wanted to thank you two for that. Cheers!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Glad you enjoy the reactions! We want to soak up what we are watching and hate when people talk during a movie haha. Happy you enjoy our style 🙂🥳🤗

[@TheZombiecrab]

Something to keep in mind with 30/40k. It's the post-post-apocalypse. In the pre-30k setting humanity had a massive interstellar empire and built ai controlled robots called the Men of Iron who rebelled against their human masters. Humanity narrowly won the war but slid back into technological regression and superstition, with most of the worlds of the former human civilization unable to interact with each other. The Emperor eventually was able to bring some of that empire back together during the great crusade, which directly leads into the events of the Horus Heresy and eventually 40k.

[@terlondre]

7:18 take a guess, i think you can figure it out...... its right there with "how do they drink with the helmets on all the time?", the circle of life...... spoiler alert, their suit recycle the urine 9:20 all primarchs do to a degree Also in the first video, the imperial guardsmen depicted there are the Death corps of Krieg and this regiment is as grim and dark as it gets. Krieg was a hive world (Hive worlds are huge population hubs) that fell into a civil war which ravaged the planet and ended only after loyalists nuked it, turning it into a toxic wasteland (hence the gas masks which are a trademark of the regiment ....along with bayonets). Having nothing else to offer the imperium, survivors volunteered their battle hardened manpower as a penance. This tradition continues ever since. Tithe after tithe, Krieg sends forth countless numbers of its faceless ghosts to whichever corner of galaxy the astra militarum deems too harsh for regular troops. Their numbers often lead to accusations of recruiting the underaged or violating the ban on cloning, but as long as the quotas are met, the empire turns blind eye to these practices. Death Corps mastered the war of attrition and are renowned for their unwavering discipline, stoic behavior and complete disregard for their own life.

[@ODDnanref]

It is penance they will pay for at any cost. They will die for it, and execute any act of cowardice. No respect for those that do not lead the charge.

[@jordinagel1184]

“…or violating the ban on cloning…” Meanwhile, some random Kriegsman on some random battlefield: “Just like in the simulations. For the Republic!” His mate: “What?” The Kriegsman: “What?”

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Circle of life 🤢😝 Hadn’t even thought about how they eat and drink 😂

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Space marines also don't wear their battle plate 24/7 unless on deployment. When the helmet is off, they eat and drink like regular humans, except, if they want to get drunk, they need to brew rotgut so foul and spiked that it would kill any non astartes in minutes through mass organ failiure and gastrointernal corrosion...

[@RichardX1]

@@SonsOfLorgar And even that will barely be enough to give a Space Wolf a slight buzz.

[@larryargent503]

40K has some amazing horror stories. The Watcher in the Rain was a good one.

[@AnimeRonin]

yeah, that second one is a darker, gritter version of the armoring process from Starcraft 2. I love it.

[@JJoJam]

I love that it's basically a religious ritual presided over by a tech-priest. I love when they really lean into that side of 40k. It really distinguishes it from every other sci-fi setting i've experienced.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yeah totally got that vibe from it while watching. 😁🤩

[@moogiibat5845]

You two know exactly where to scratch the itchy spots.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗

[@tobysharples111]

I really like that you guys are enjoying watching these videos. It’s nice to see certain things pique your interest; I started the same way and now I’m a die hard fan of warhammer

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎🤟🥳

[@szasza8583]

"He have daddy issues".... all primarcs have.

[@apothneisko]

“He was daddy issues” that pretty much sums up all the traitor Primarchs besides Alpharius

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗

[@martinbowers6852]

2:06 that was a bomb squig. Squigs come in many shapes and sizes for varying purposes from food to wate disposal to beasts of burden. 7:37 they actually do have a waste recycling system in their armor.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍😀 Thanks for answering our questions

[@DavBernardoCoxing]

In the first clip, it’s entirely possible for the original yelling at the fire to actually divert the fire or make the ork fireproof if he believes hard enought

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Orks are the best 😁

[@Griffinmore]

If you want to read about something horrifying, read the Horus Heresy novel entitled "Fulgrim". There is a scene in there where a concert is held to showcase a new symphony. The symphony is written in such a way that demons are summoned and start killing the audience and sends all of the Emporer's Children space marines in attendance into madness and turning them into Sonic Marines.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

That’s horrifyingly awesome 😱😨😈

[@BarackObamnna]

Was looking forward to your reaction of the Horus Heresy reaction. Did not disappoint.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Glad you enjoyed it 😀🥳

[@Elysium346]

A space marines power armour has waste processing/recycling units so they don't need to remove it to urinate . Moreover, space marines are not always in their armour (though its considered best practice to remain in armour as much as is pragmatically feasible so you are combat ready) how frequently a space marine will be unarmoured depends on circumstance and the chapter of space marine in question. So if a space marine was not in their armour because... lets say its being repaired, they can use the loo like any normal person. :)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Just seems like such a process to put it on, feels like they would never take it off 🤗

[@uUuWolf16uUu]

Yeah. Funniest part is, the space wolves are regarded as "not codex compliant" because they are too much out of their armor and some even go into battle without their armor (the crazy, drunk ones lol)

[@lion9f452]

I really liked how you guys got chills from seeing the army of Space Marines in the Horus Heresy trailer. The thing that is always conveyed about an individual Space Marine is that they are a one man army, it's a huge part of their appeal. But - the horror of the Horus Heresy comes truly from its scale. Both sides had *hundreds of thousands* of marines at their disposal. It's the reason the current setting is so utterly hopeless. The Heresy devastated the entire Galaxy and the Imperium were even forced to acknowledge that Space Marines couldn't muster in those numbers again - ever - (Which is literally why since then, they disbanded the legions and Marines exist in Chapters of c. 1,000.) The trailer does a really good job of highlighting how terrifying a Space Marine Legion truly could be.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yeah having a bunch of space marines battling it out just brings so much devastation 😨

[@warhammerbadly5973]

I've been a Warhammer fan for about 10 years now, Played many games & read a lot of the books. I have never considered how a Space marine pees until watching this.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🤣😂 you’re welcome 😜

[@akuji169]

Honestly you guys have helped me find games I never knew existed 🙏

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Our pleasure! Love hearing that 😀😊🤗

[@davidhernando353]

Kill Team is the Warhammer skirmish game. Where Warhammer 40,000 are huge Kill Team battles are small specialist teams. The video does a good job of showing the different specialists of the krieg and the orks. Flamethrower, the bomb squig, the nobleman with the klaw, the officer with the chainsword (impressive that he managed to kill an ork with the klaw of combat in close combat), the sniper, etc... All of those are playable in Kill Team. Some details: Getting a fatal headshot from an ork is harder than it sounds. Most of the head is taken up by the skull and the ork's actual brain is quite small in relation to the large head it sits on. The space marine putting on his armor. As everything varies from chapter to chapter, in some cases it is much less ritualized and symbolic, but usually the armor has a lot of symbolism and ritual (possibly only the warrior aspect of the aeldari put a similar emphasis on putting on the armor and entering the state of emtne suitable for war). You might think that the special forces would take less time to prepare, but with all that space travel usually lasts, really there is almost always time between when the ship approaches the destination and putting on the armor and if it is necessary and it goes with little time can accelerates, the space marines are ultimately pragmatic. The armor has a fluid recycling system: sweat, urine, etc. It recycles and the armor disposes of it, so the user don't have to worry about awkward moments in the middle of battle. Although this is the most effective and logic solution deprives us of many potentially funny scenes. Horus, the man, the legend, primarch, demigod, favorite son, first among equals, warmaster, personification of Dad insues. His tantrum on dad basically ruined the Imperium and led to its decline and conversion into an ultra-dogmatic and hyper-violent totalitarian theocracy (never a perfect place, but things were much better before the Horus Heresy). A lot of people saw the video and thought why doesn't GW make a series of this? They clearly have the means, they have the horus heresy novels that they can adapt, so they don't even need to think or pay for the script. Maybe someday.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thought for sure this was a trailer for a show that they were finally going to do on it ☹️ Oh well. Thanks for answering our questions we had throughout this 🙂

[@Aenarion28]

You have to understand them. The Horus heresy was a large-scale galactic Civil War. The destruction of the Horus heresy is so massive that the destruction you see in all the Star Trek and Star Wars stuff pails in comparison to what happened in Warhammer. Basically the father is the Emperor of man humanity considers him that they're God so basically Horace and his other 19 Brothers are basically the equivalent of the choir of angels that Lucifer is. And the Space Marines are considered the angels of the emperor. So the Horus heresy is Warhammer and science fiction's version of the war between God and Lucifer and the rebellion between the angels. However in this one it ended with Lucifer and God pretty much killing each other and that is why in the 41st Millennium humanity is really screwed up

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯😨

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

God now you two have to see the horus heresy trailer but google translated villainously, it is a adventure to say the least. Oh and to answer your question. Space mairnes just pee in their suits. They have like a waste disposing system in their armor. Oh and if you think what you just witnessed is terrifying check out the night lords

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂 that’s a fun idea for a trailer. Glad someone made that

[@columbuspope4764]

The Kill Team trailer showed Kreigsmen. They’re a guard regiment that’s ALL about dying in duty. They have ultra depression.

[@YeemRAG]

A warhammer 40k live action TV series has actually been in pre-production since 2019 (and it was confirmed that it's still in pre-production by a GW big wig in january this year). Based on the Eisenhorn books which I can very much recommend. The author Dan Abnett has also written several of the Horus Heresy books including the first one, and the Gaunt's Ghosts bookseries and is a NY Times best-selling author.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Oh nice. Hadn’t realized that 😀Are they just releasing it on their website or do they have bigger distribution plans for it 🤔😀

[@YeemRAG]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Yeah I wonder about that as well, they haven't said. I personally hope it doesn't end up locked away in Warhammer+ but on a bigger platform instead. I think it has a ton of potential because of the type of story it is, and that they have Frank Spotnitz and his production company working on the show.

[@GotMesomeMe]

I just finished reading the Horus Heresy series. All 54 books. I started in 2015 on a bet i lost. I read the first book and it was aweful.... Until page 250. I almost put it down. I almost couldn't make it but it's a sin to start a book and not finish it especially after 250 pages. I never stop reading them after that I don't do the video games. I don't understand the board games. But I know the books. All of them. Did you know that Horace actually doesn't want to go to work against his dad? He doesn't. He doesn't even like chaos. But Horus is so powerful. So smart and amazing. He's hard not to like and I'm serious. That's who you saw in that clip with the claws. That was Horus.. They have never made a Primark clip before. They pretty much nailed it except Horus is extremely likable. That's the only thing about him that folks don't understand. He is probably the most likable figure in the entire Warhammer world. He's also very difficult to disagree with. That's my two cents Thanks for listening

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Congrats on sticking with it and finishing the books! 😀 good to know if we ever start it that it had a rough start

[@jacthing1]

Makes sense considering if I remember correctly he was a incredible diplomate

[@ryancallan1192]

For the Killteam trailer: It's fine. They're all Kriegs Guard. They live to die. To answer your question about how they use the bathroom, the armors have manner of dealing with their waste, as they don't bother dealing with needing the bathroom in battle.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍🙂

[@YoBen100]

Horus: Daddy issue Lucy from Bible: First time?

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂

[@jacob-nj4gm]

One vid I would recommend to you guys is "The last church". you will get a glimpse of what earth was like before the emperor had achieved total conquest of earth and you will get a bit of an introduction to the thunder worriers with a hint in the story as to how they had received such a name. I think you guys would like it or at least find it a bit interesting.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We have that one on our list but didn’t realize what it was about. Thanks for giving us some more info on it 🙂

[@jacob-nj4gm]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames anytime, I love your guys work. I will always try my best to point you towards a video worth your time and provide any information I have based on what you watched assuming no one else beats me to it. With that said you take care and I'll see you around.🙂✌️

[@Numl0k]

Honestly didn't care for it at all. I thought it was incredibly cheesy. Both the Emperor and the Priest were just clinically unprepared for the conversation they were having. Neither of them were making good points at all. The dialogue was mediocre, and sounded like the writer was trying to sound a lot smarter than he actually is. It just reeked of fan fiction by some edgy teenage atheist desperately trying to show the world how smart and mature he is.

[@elite6329]

9:12 let the galaxy burn is super iconic

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎🤟😈

[@sablephantom1]

2:00 Squigs! You might have seen them in one Total War: Warhammer trailer, but they're used by Orks as well, with many different sizes and functions

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍😀

[@thepiratepenguin4465]

7:12 as someone who was a member of a QRF unite, we had 5min to be on route to the OA. This guy needs a whole team just to get stacked.

[@Argonisgema]

I was watching that going "Man if it takes all that for just one marine i can't imagine that happening for the other hundreds of marines."

[@tailssonicteam1604]

Long have I waited for this! So cool! Awesome vid as always

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Glad you enjoyed it 🥳🥳

[@kevinshort3943]

There is a 40k TV series in development - Eisenhorn. If follows the adventure of inquisitor Eisenhorn (shock) from the books, so it's more horror/investigation.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

That seems like the perfect genre blend for this to be on tv. Hopefully it’s put together well and then more can come 😀

[@nikot.9920]

Its about time, FOR THE ALLFATHER!! 🤘🐺

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎🤟

[@TwoSevenX]

The little guy is a Squig. They're cute and cuddly and grow to become the size of a small football stadium. Orks and Squigs have face eating contests. There are two other Space Marine armoring videos, this one is 'official', but the other two were first and obviously influenced this one heavily. Horus also never really outgrew his teenage years, neither for the Emperor or against him. Space marines do pee. Not very often and its often literally toxic to other lifeforms. The suits can be worn for sometimes YEARS at a time and so contain everything necessary to make that happen, in addition to the space marine's organ and gene modifications to make that possible.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Squigs ain’t so little 😯😨

[@ianshearer6979]

ahhh, my tech priest brothers blessing yet another Battle Plate of my emperors children.

[@thelibrarian6976]

i find amazing the sight of the space marine without armour, it seems so much more human altough the demigodly nature of the astartes, horus is so charismatic and dreadful 🥶😨😱 thank forse your reaction guys as always! i wanna know your opinion: did the emperor deserve all that grief? were its mistakes so unforgettable?

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Not sure we can answer that well right now. From what we know, the emperor never wanted to be a god worshiped, so in a sense, it’s sad that he got twisted into something he wanted to get rid of. But at the same time, even if you are trying to change the world for good. Doing so essentially by yourself and making yourself a king/emperor is setting up for failure 🤔

[@thelibrarian6976]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames it's a really difficult question you're right. At the end in this sad story there is no winner, only losers 😢 the emperor was still a man as the same as the primarchs.. envy, underestimation and every kind of flaws were leading there from the beginning i suppose. Thank you guys for like and reply keep on working on the channel you are amazing😁😁😁

[@Hawk_of_Battle]

"Let the galaxy burn!" One command, one world of 8 billion lives ended, one war started. 10,000 years later; *they're still following the same command.*

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯😨

[@Noisemarine]

The Horus Heresy is technically not 40k but 30k surrounding the events of the civil war where Horus Mr daddy issues himself led a massive rebellion against daddy emperor resulting in the grimdark world of 40k in the greatest Greek tragedy of all time.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

“Mr daddy issues himself” 😂🤣

[@Noisemarine]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Wait till you learn about Lorgar primarch of the word bearers who manages to have even more whineier daddy issues than anyone else.

[@WarbossWaagh92]

"I still want to know how they pee." Well, as far as I know, they technically never do or really need to. Their bodily fluids are recycled and reprocessed through their armor and their backpack. Or are just so efficient they don't really produce any "waste." They can go days or even weeks without needing food, water, or sleep. That said, in some of the lore and books etc, Space Marines have a very distinct "stink" to them, as they kind of become a walking metal gym bag XD

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🤢

[@MrElBatto]

The Horus Heresy series covers so much 54 novels in the series then an additional 18 to cover the siege of terra and another 17 for each of the Primarchs. There are so many books in the Horus Heresy because it explores individual characters, legions, guardsmen, everyday people caught in the conflict. It covers genres from drama to horror. It is a phenomenal series. The changes wrought in the Emperor's Children are quite horrific, a story told from the perspective of a prisoner in Fabius Bile's lab would be truly horrifying. Then you have the Night Lords who's whole stick is causing terror it truly gruesome ways. Vulkan and Kurze on the Night Lord ship gave me chills. If you enjoy the genre and like reading I cannot recommend these books enough. But GW need to really up their game when it comes to their animations before even thinking of attempting Horus Heresy related shows and I think they know that, the fanbase would love Horus Heresy media but if not done right the backlash will be gigantic.

[@JJoJam]

I'm still confused by that trailer. Do we know yet whether it's a tease for a show? a film? a game? a new line of minis?

[@MrElBatto]

@@JJoJam The Horus Heresy trailer was for the new edition of the Horus Heresy tabletop game

[@JJoJam]

@@MrElBatto Cool! I knew Kill Team as a scaled down version of 40k. I didn't realise they went for 30k as well. I guess GW wanted to keep expanding their range after blowing up fantasy and the poor reception to AoS?

[@MrElBatto]

@@JJoJam well Horus Heresy has been a whole seperate game for a longtime but it was all sold through forgeworld. Forgeworld has a huge range of Horus Heresy (30k) miniatures. AoS has also sprung back a bit it's pretty popular now. Not to the level of 40k but it's doing well.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

GW just has to team up with the right studio to get it done properly. Although from what we’ve heard they don’t always play nice with others 😂🤗

[@mistabrrrly]

So the little thing with the dynamite was a squig, tiny ork raised creature. There are many different types of squigs. Squigs are the best

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Team squig 😛

[@uUuWolf16uUu]

Regarding the "How can I pee?" Space Marine armor has a filtration system that collects your urine and filters it until its water and re-cycles it into the space marine. But even then, space marines rarely have to pee or anything like that.

[@patrickc.3823]

The Horus Heresy: Daddy Issues Missed marketing opportunity.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂

[@bmorebread8993]

I love how off the break she notices how horus has daddy issues lol

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😜🤗

[@mordredpendragon1235]

7:21 I can answer that question. They don't even pee, they don't even need to eat or drink water for several weeks on end

[@jonathanpaiva7970]

"I wanna know how they pee". Well, the knowledge is heresy, but they have a second bladder that actually pees it into the Warp. 😃

[@nameothername7392]

You should watch the templin institutes video on The Emperor of Man. It's a really good video on the how the emperor came to be and how the universe ended up where it is

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We’ve seen their Imperium of Man but will need to check out more 🙂

[@palasta]

Btw. at 7:57 i think the skulls the marine of the imperial fists wears around the waste are of normal sized humans.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯🤯😨 That’s a big dude. Forgot how large they are

[@palasta]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Yea. When everything is monstrous the actual scale becomes ambiguous.

[@hotrod506]

“He has daddy issues” More or less summed up the Horus Heresy in a nutshell

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗

[@shieldwallofdragons]

Great reaction!...the space marine armor didn't have a zipper is that it is fully self-contained...all waste is recycled into useable nutrition and hydration and the armor had internal monitoring and medical systems to help keep the marine functioning even thru catastrophic damage...also the space marines can shut down one half of their brain at a time and alternate sides so they can go days without sleep...If I recall 328 solar hours is the longest any space marine went without sleep.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

That is so damn cool that they can shut down one half of their brain 😯😀

[@Lakrimoz]

Confirmed we're getting a 40K cinematic universe from Amazon with Henry Cavil as showrunner - fingers crossed its on the level of these trailers!

[@samimermer1982]

Men of Krieg do not fear death. They keep on charging untill death. That is why they all charged through knowing their death is close to blow up the target.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎🤟

[@Grimgool]

Been waiting for you guys to react to these so exciting! keep up the great content you 2

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks! Glad you finally got to see us react to these 😁🥳

[@edim108]

"He has dad issues" pretty much sums up the Horus Heresy. Honestly, all it took to prevent that massive civil war was Emperor being a half competent parent...

[@Fordo007]

My biggest issue with being a Space Marine would be using the bathroom... I had a catheter at the hospital and was awake when it was put in... (shudders from memory of it).

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯 😨

[@ezequielmorales4221]

9:20 That is the understatement of the century

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗

[@ImperialKnight770]

The little monster with dynamite in its mouth is called a squig. Orks use them as warbeasts, pack mules, mounts and sometimes food. Also, I'm pretty sure if The Emperor was still around that whole armoring ritual would be deemed unnecessary and you'd have a more scientific approach to it.

[@tdab3883]

and bagpipes and gas tanks

[@Tachilen]

He... has just a small misunderstanding with his father... regarding what is best for humanity.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

They can’t just hug and agree to disagree ☺️🤗

[@pokeczarelf]

Welp, big boi Horus and his boys rounding up at his father, The God Emperor.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎🤟

[@GeoffreyBronson]

Haha I was actually about to comment on another video asking about the Horus Heresy if you guys would react to it. Nice.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Nice timing 😜

[@DraiksDracula]

Another Warhammer 40K Video. I wish if they made a Warhammer 40K MMORPG. Not the fantasy one. Great Video as always. And i'm wondering if you made a video about "If the Emperor had a text to speech device" because that is an amazing series. Its not lore accurate tho. Just for laughs. That thing there at 1:58 Is called a Squig. They are basically herd for Orks. We really NEED a TV Series called "Warhammer 40K" Also i'm what they call the Alien. Because i like Tyranids and Necrons. And ofc everyone likes Orks.

[@cyclone8974]

Only if they want to watch Memehammer. So many people confuse it with the actual lore...

[@DraiksDracula]

@@cyclone8974 Its what you can call Warhammer 40K Series. Its not at all accurate it actually changes the whole story. But still the closest thing we as true Warhammer 40K fans. Have to a Warhammer 40K series. A goofy one is better than nothing.

[@dagonofthedepths]

@@DraiksDracula Well supposedly there is the Eisenhorn series coming out who knows when. But 40k does have that problem where memes are taking as hard facts.

[@DraiksDracula]

@@dagonofthedepths For those that does not even know Warhammer 40K lore of course. But people that actually knows the lore would know the difference. Also people should know the lore before leaping into other things that are not lore. Many folks go the wrong path first then blame others. That is wrong. Go straight or don't blame people. We are not ignorant to the fact that Warhammer 40K does not make movies or TV Shows. That is when people like Bruva Alfabusa, comes along and decide to make something of something else that people love and enjoy. Something you watch during your free time. Yes the new Big D, which talks about the Emperor of mankind "Character" in another universe or something. I just watched 1 Episode because it felt weird. So excuse my lacking info about the subject. But like i said these animations are made for fun. Don't forget that the Developers told The animators to either do a vow of silence and work for them. Or just get sued for making content that rightfully belongs to them. People like Bruva Alfabusa is trying to give back to the community of Warhammer 40K. Its the community's fault for turning memes into facts. Its like the Fantasy became Reality, and vice versa. I recommend they watch "if the emperor had a text-to-speech device" Because i'm sure they will enjoy it. Because it is after all fun as hell, real or not.

[@dagonofthedepths]

@@DraiksDracula Eh, that's the problem, it's not a few. So many ppl thinks a bolter fires red bull cans or ork can will things to happen out of sure WAAGGHH!!! power. I don't expect everyone to read 600 40k books and only 40k books to get the lore but lets be honest the vast majority of people how watch fan content are not even going to go to the wiki. Like I illuded to, GW did make a movie and they are making several series. I'm pointing this out not because I think people should watch them just saying they did it before. Seriuosly Ultramarines was a pile and kind of sad because it would have been better with a budget but sa la vie. They also release a ton of audiobooks and audio dramas It's also compounded how GW treats lore. I can give tons of official works that contradict each other. This makes the lore very complex and not always in a good way. I'm not blaming anyone for it, if you want to watch Bruva or Baldormort even Commissar Gamza go ahead. Just if someone comes back calming to be an authority on 40K because they watched Text to Speech I'm iffy on that. Text to Speech isn't even that wild it's just your getting info for a parody. Also, when have GW sued someone for copyright infringement for making fan content? I'm seriously asking, I know they where mad at Last Church and honestly that was the 1 project I did get why they would shut down but I didn't think they sued anyone over it.

[@ianbruce1745]

Yesss love it! Thanks for reacting to these! Helsreach soon I hope, doesn't have to be all at once since it's basically a 40k movie but y'all would for sure enjoy and I think it gives more depth to another side of the Imperium and more 'flavor text' for the world building; superb storytelling translating from the audio book to the big screen 😊 y'all have a nice day

[@JJoJam]

I'd love to see a reaction to the exchange between Grimaldis and the Salamander Sargeant. It's a nice, quick, simple showcase of how different Space Marine chapters can have vastly differing philosophies. Although they all serve mankind, they're their own subcultures within the vastness of the Imperium.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Not sure when Helsreach will come but we do look forward to checking it out 😀

[@edwuncleriii3798]

The lore playlist from the Lutein channel you guys reacted to would be great.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We do plan to check out some more Luetin09. Heard his Ork vid is pretty good 😀

[@edwuncleriii3798]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames That's great to hear. You guys are my favorite reaction channel, not just for the reactions, but the fact that you're so interactive in the comments as well. Makes it feel like a real community thingy.

[@sovereign-of-scars4372]

You should try to react to WesHammer's Chaos Gods video. The perspective he gives on the Dark Brothers (and/or sister depending how She Who Thirsts chooses to identify at the time) is so unique that I'm actually tempted to join Chaos

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Have heard that is a fun vid on Chaos 🙂

[@morgoth4361]

Look up Horus and the Primarchs. These guys are demigods to the Emperor being a god.

[@kurikuri1537]

I love how the armouring of a space marine is all done by machines apart from the addition of the imperialis

[@D-AverageGamer]

ur actually right the suit recycles pee into water to help keep the space marine cool I think it can also be used for drinking

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Pee air conditioner. Patent pending 😂🤢

[@joshuawebb5891]

To boil down the Horus Heresy. -Horus was corrupted by Chaos Gods; basically the closest thing to Hell in the 40k universe. He then manipulated and corrupted half of the emperor's legions to turn against him; his father. He genuinely thinks he is saving the galaxy; which is the tragic part.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Chaos gods mucking things up again ☹️

[@Leonxandergunisback]

I discoverd this channel thanks to luetin/astartes and dmc's reaciond videos and I gotta say: really love to see you two react to stuff you are not super knowledgeable about, it's very refreashing. I'd really love to see you react to Helsreach.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Welcome! Glad you’re digging the vibe around here. We like to learn more about franchises and games and the community has been helping us out with that for sure with suggestions and comments. 😀🥳😎🤟 We do plan to eventually check out some Helsreach 🙂

[@gavin1506]

The armour has a waste management system that uses solids as fuel and refines the pee for water. It's all a sealed unit

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍🙂

[@gavin1506]

It takes them a long time to get in armour. Once they are in they don't get out of it until the battle is done. Space marines can ingest pretty much anything. They have a dual layer of armour as their ribs fuse. They can shut acid (most of them). The lore is very extensive or what biological additions that marines get. They can survive in vacuum. They are just amazing in how they are described. Trans human.

[@thebyba6067]

Please watch "[EN-US] The final trailer "cut" by Hideo Kojima himself! - [RISING]" is the official trailer for Metal Gear Solid: Rising

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍🙂

[@Lev069]

Ima tell you two something from the Horus Heresy, the bald one is Horus Lupercal, Son of the Emperor, his legion is called sons of Horus which are the dark green blue space marines, and then you have the yellow space marines which are called The Imperial Fists, which are lead by a other primarch, Royal Dorn, leader of that legion, Horus has read something about chaos things and that is why he started an whole war with the other chaos legions that follow Horus, against the legions of the emperor, that is why it’s called the Horus Heresy.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for giving us some more info on that 😀

[@ireallycant4416]

This KZbin just chilling.. well deserved fans

[@hanspanzer1260]

Horus Lupercal ..... Once the great son of the emperor, the first among equals, the second man in the Imperium. The fallen angel was whispered by the gods of chaos that the father would become a God, and the nation of people would stagnate....in some ways they were right, but they didn't tell him that Horus himself would immerse himself in all this. The most terrible thing is that the brothers turned their weapons on each other, the space Marines did not believe in betrayal (not for long).

[@GarioTheRock]

2:37 Loyalist Prognosticator: "**chuckling** Doesn't run away, just yells at the fire." Me: thinking that yeah, they do actually do that a lot now that I think of it. Heretical Farseer: "Probably worked for him a lot of times with things other than fire." Me: By the Emperor...that's a great point, but if I incorporate this knowledge into my own, that'd make me a Radical Inquisitionairy, but I usually just play Imperial Guard, which means I don't have the authority to know that 😭 Man, being a human in Warhammer 40k sucks on every level lol.

[@tobi_ornottobe]

If you want to know more, for example about the orks, i recommend you react to the "battlefleet Gothic Armada 2" cinematics. :)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Nice. Had those on our list but didn’t know it featured more Orks 😁

[@taz200032]

I would never want to fight an Ork. Especially as a regular guardsman, seems absolutely terrifying

[@Alexcobra861]

Personally, I'm much more terrified of facing a Tyranid than an Ork.

[@alkalineb]

I am not sure if you have checked it out but Hellsreach would be a good one for you guys to watch. Fan-made 10-part series (feels more like a movie) BUT definitely worth the watch.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Haven’t seen it yet just definitely on our list to check out at some point 😅

[@Orlando2914]

@Definitely Not Definitive, If you guys like Briky's work, I suggest watching the Frostpunk (2 episodes) he did, its pretty good, probably one of my favorites

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Not familiar with the game so might be a good intro for us 🙂

[@pilotmuller7496]

Hours the greatest son turned to the greatest trader. Agron the forever slave

[@brotquel1592]

You should check the latest MidwinterMinis video about how a realistic Space Marine looks like; a hint: is not a bodybuilder hunk.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Everything gets sexually glorified even in 40k 😝

[@bethbearmacethatguy]

Space marines have a catheter in their armour that recycles their urine. The suit also recycles their poop. So yeah...they just go in the suit.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Urine recycling could work. But eating recycled poop 🤢🤢