Death Stranding - How is a Boring Game Still Good?!

[@Shokio]

WATCH THE VIDEO BEFORE COMMENTING YOU GODDAMN BRAINLETS HOLY FUCK.

[@Shokio]

At LEAST watch the first 6 minutes.

[@juicedup14]

But have you played the game yet? 🤤 -mindless kojima drone who doesn’t know what the video is about

[@VariantAEC]

So Fortnite ain't a game? Who'd a thought! But oddly it is gameplay everything and no good cinematics or story or graphics or really anything outside of PvP shooty shooty... Bizarrely it's games like these making the cash today... Just like back in 1973.

[@347tester]

Dude this video is so on point

[@ankurbhaskar4634]

Shokio That’s what I did before commenting...

[@TomAHawk-py6vj]

I it wasn't from Hideo Kojima it would be not that hyped. The fans and the industry act like he is a god for no reason.

[@louisplays175]

Do u know why kojima was praised in the first place? Cuz he did ideas way ahead of his time, having a real story to tell, gameplay not like other in his time... sure, he messes up sometimes, but so do we.

[@amestrisgone]

kojima doesnt even care about gaming, he has admitted i believe, to prefer movies, he should just leave and do what he likes

[@louisplays175]

@@amestrisgone I like both movies and video games... just because he likes movies more, it doesn't mean he doesn't like making video games. He could've just moved on after he left konami, but he decided to make another video game, a video game that's unlike any other... if u think this is boring, that's fine, but don't judge a book by it's cover

[@LvUpRED]

Kojima is the man though

[@joaokiwi2543]

Kojima also said he doesnt like videogames, he also said the future is movies, not videogames, people like Kojima are destroying the gaming industry.

[@painuchiha2694]

Kojima used his name to sell this game His name alone! And people eat it

[@somedesertdude1308]

Jup

[@pedmonds2011]

Homi Yosh Citation needed

[@patrykzukowski7471]

Yes, because he makes extraordinary games every time. Death Stranding is no different - it has good gameplay, revolutionary even, I have no idea why some people call it boring, the traversing is actually engaging. Kojima did excellent job in making a concept that sounds stupid and boring actually fun and engaging as hell. DS' story on the other hand is retarded in the end

[@BlackangelKatakuri]

His name and keeping people in the dark

[@BlackangelKatakuri]

Kokoa Nishimura But at least Destiny had fun gameplay that wasn’t just walking

[@Aries73]

Storylines CANNOT carry a game. They can make a bad game mediocre, a good game great, and a great game outstanding, but can do nothing without solid gameplay.

[@kuppakassi]

Silent Hill 1-3 are exceptions.

[@branberrycakes]

So I guess all story focused games are trash? 🤔

[@lampzhade]

And the story is not even good

[@Manganization]

Remember when a 5, 10 or 100 point scores were divided by 1, 2 or 20 points, and was tallied up based on how well each aspect of a game was done?

[@sean70729]

But it will sell to fanboys though.

[@ArcusAngeluss]

Imagine paying 60 dollars for a movie ticket

[@Lwiis64]

A BORING movie too.

[@bendover5289]

@@Lwiis64 95/ 100 🤔

[@polystrate1]

@@Lwiis64 this is the kind of content that should be on PSNow

[@theprocrastinator6813]

Oh yes $60 dollars for last of us 2 : the movie 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@GrayMimikyu]

70$ cause I’m buying the steel book :(

[@MrEvol94]

Ironically IGN's review is the best/most honest one

[@GARU7x]

IGN gets a lot of undeserved crap, most of their reviews are well done, it's just the poor ones that stick out really hard.

[@AntiRiku]

@@GARU7x yep basically this

[@cyphaborg6598]

@@GARU7x FOH they gave Evolve a 9 LMFAO

[@Lwiis64]

IGN of all people being the voice of reason. I was shocked too.

[@bmoresfinest1982]

Facts

[@Merserissugoi]

what bugs me is the art direction. kojima has yoji shinkawa, one of the most celebrated mecha/military concept artists in the world, design dudes in rain jackets and amazon packages. also instead of designing new characters, he has to design the characters around actors kojima hired because kojima cant get over not being a movie director.

[@hector4470]

That’s exactly why he should of just jumped into doing movies instead because it’s fairly obvious with Death Stranding that is what he truly wanted.

[@Merserissugoi]

@@hector4470 yes the game industry does not need to be more like the movie industry which reuses the same 7-10 actors every film. It's a game.. you can literally make any character. The barren landscapes also shows how little effort was put into the player's gameplay time. There is nothing there.

[@BlackangelKatakuri]

Hahhah0 He should have just made the game 15 hours long imo

[@HupCapNinja]

“Death stranding is not for everyone but it certainly is for ME” - Skill Up The man hated Persona 5 and FFXV for being “too long” LOL

[@madtitan5646]

I liked Persona 5 but it was way too long. FFXV is mostly just boring filler

[@olimphus26]

skillup is full of shit.

[@olimphus26]

@@madtitan5646 just what death stranding seems to be, way too long and mostly filler LoL

[@madtitan5646]

@@olimphus26 "seems to be". Seems like you're full of shit

[@BlackangelKatakuri]

The difference is this is just a glorified fetch quest

[@GARU7x]

Gameplanet 10/10: "While Death Stranding will surely be the most divisive game of this generation, there is no arguing that it offers new ideas on pushing the medium forward and shows that games don't always typically have to be "fun"" LMFAOOO This whole shit has me in TEARS

[@Lwiis64]

Wow! A form of entertainment doesn't have to be fun? WTF!?

[@31Ghost31]

I have reviewed your comment and I approve 👍.

[@TheBf666]

Moron, you do realise that they put the word "fun" in quotation marks right in the review that you quoted yourself, and then you proceed to be outraged and bash it without knowing it's meaning. You had me in tears bruh.

[@VariantAEC]

@@Lwiis64 Was "The Road" a fun movie? Or a fun book? I'd argue *HELL FUCKING NO!*

[@yobro6053]

@@VariantAEC who the fuck calls a book fun? They are engrossing, you are reading a story, not controlling a story , like is the IQ of the kojima fanbase sub 50?

[@denickart]

At least I don't have to pay money for it since the definitive way to experience the game is to just watch it on KZbin and skip the gameplay

[@WeightliftingWigger]

Yo fuk dis game N E Wayz dissa game fo WHYTE BOYZ!

[@juicedup14]

This is the the type of shok content I love

[@KiiroSagi]

A game is not a movie, games are about engagement. That's why a multiplayer vs game, even without story or a good story anyway is a game. A game must also have some sort of test of skill. If you cannot lose, you cannot win and vice versa.

[@GRANDTHEFTBATO]

Games are supposed to be fun and engaging to be considered a masterpiece. But kojima seems to only make movie like games. But it doesn't surprise me because if you follow kojima he's a giant movies guy and loves Hollywood. It's why he always hires celebrities for his games. A game needs to be a game. Not a movie. It's crazy aswell because he has a difficulty called movie mode for people that love to watch movies

[@Bo26625]

No that is like putting a limit on how long a tv show must go on to be consider television.

[@HupCapNinja]

Clifford your big red God dude honestly... I hope and I fucking HOPE Devil May Cry 5 wins GOTY that game had the perfect line between story and gameplay.

[@nellyps3]

Traversing an unstable environment without damaging packaging and equipment doesnt evolve skill?

[@HupCapNinja]

nellyps3 it doesn’t lol just drive a car or bike in the game and you’re good! LOL

[@cloudstrife8436]

this is why Nintendo exists and must stay... Gameplay and fun is in their games' DNA

[@Mf_Cooldawg]

pfft barely.

[@cloudstrife8436]

@@Mf_Cooldawg then why do you think their games are critically acclaimed despite their average graphics and cinematics hmm? isn't it bc of the superior gameplay? if you personally aren't into their style of games then that's a personal preference but the fact remains that games like BOTW, mario odyssey, mario galaxy, ocarina of time...etc are among the highest rated games of all time despite not being the most advanced graphically with minimalistic cinematics

[@Mf_Cooldawg]

@@cloudstrife8436 Nostalgia.. but think whatever. all of this is opinion. I think Nintendo games are for babies. I like old 90s PC games that have been modded to hell and back

[@kuppakassi]

@@Mf_Cooldawg so Mario Party" Kart, Smash Bros drinking games are for babies? Cuh.. They hilarious even when playing sober tho

[@unguidedflame1550]

That’s your opinion, some of their games are just overrated and just for kids.

[@felixblue5251]

The good scores are 100% because of the Kojima name on the box. The original Nier in 2010 was praised for its story but dogged for its gameplay and got 5 and 6s/10.

[@metroidcypher]

I loved the original nier, played slot like zelda. Only reason automata got high score was because of 2bs ass, guarantee if nier was the main characted it would have gotten a lower score

[@felixblue5251]

Luka Megurine Sorry man, I completely disagree: Nier 1’s storytelling is amazing, but the actual gameplay / visuals are kinda terrible. Automata did better because it had great gameplay as well as a good story which enhanced the overall experience.

[@balthier261]

@@metroidcypher WDF? Did u play automata?

[@VariantAEC]

Oh well then, it's almost like it's all opinion and no fact? Wait are reviews opinions? Ah, yes yes they are. Guess Shokio and you lot all forgot that.

[@felixblue5251]

VariantAEC No one is denying reviews are opinions. But negative comments and contradictory review scores (calling the game dull then giving it a 9.5) is kinda ridiculous. That’s why people are upset.

[@KiiroSagi]

"If it's not fun, why bother?"

[@dugnice]

Someone actually commented that fun ISN'T the most important element of a game. 🤷

[@tawilk]

@@dugnice that's sad...

[@HupCapNinja]

Dug Nice I had a fanboy from Skill Ups review of him saying Death Stranding was more fun than Final Fantasy XV.... I’m dead fucking serious! Like how can skill up say FFXV was empty and shallow and it was too long and too many cutscenes and call it awful but as soon as DS releases the stuff he complained about in FFXV is in Death Stranding and it’s actually what he so called described FFXV. It’s shallow and boring and just a walking simulator. Bruh FFXV Has the best open world in a FF game and you were idk ACTUALLY HAVING FUN IN COMBAT??!!!

[@CynicalZielony]

@@dugnice I'd say if a game isn't fun then the gameplay should at least be interesting.

[@SimonAckerman]

Dug Nice We are witnessing the collapse of Western society with this. All the Kojima cultists will be in denial ignoring the voices in their head telling them they’re bored.

[@garrettthomas5653]

Reggie: "If it's not fun, why bother?"

[@FourtySeven1983]

Have you actually read or listened to a full review. It elebrates on what the reviewers mean. Is Dark Souls always fun yet there is no uproar about that. Some people enjoy the grind while others despise it.

[@olimphus26]

@@FourtySeven1983 whoever says dark souls is not fun they need to reflect on their life choices.

[@milboxr9772]

@@FourtySeven1983 learning a fight and getting stronger is the fun part about dark souls

[@FourtySeven1983]

@@milboxr9772 Yes, but then you get those who gets frustrated from dying all the time and calls the game trash as result when in fact it is great.

[@FourtySeven1983]

@@olimphus26 There are a number of them out there. They simply do not have the time and patients to push through the difficult parts of the game. A guy at work threw his controller against the wall out of frustration and now stays away from souls like games.

[@whatevername6553]

This all started with this big ass fucking turd called “the last of us” where people stopped caring about gameplay and got critical acclaim for being a ladder simulator...they then found out people loved mediocre, and they gave us mediocre.

[@Daniel-Rain-YT]

Exactly

[@hewhoentertains4859]

This video is peak Shokio and i love it

[@juicedup14]

Can’t wait to play death stranding on youtube 😂

[@jonathanc1390]

Get ready to watch the most boring 50 hour movie lol

[@FourtySeven1983]

@@jonathanc1390 Why, have you played it?

[@markocpajakovic4400]

Throwback to Telltale last 10 years of games.

[@FourtySeven1983]

I see jackasses.

[@BlackangelKatakuri]

Marko Cpajakovic Which were less games than Death Stranding is ironically

[@juicedup14]

ign was right for once in their death stranding review

[@347tester]

Kojima fan boys will not forget this

[@AntiRiku]

they've been right in the past as well, but everyone only pays attention to their fuckups

[@merritt2014]

They were right? So I assume you've played the game to know they're right?

[@juicedup14]

@@merritt2014 they were right in that they didn't give it a 9/10 despite it being boring. And before you say "How would you know it's boring?" I know it's boring because every reviewer calls it boring or repetitive. Checkmate, Kojima-drone.

[@MrYube854]

Telltale's The walking dead is not a fun game. Essentially a point and click game. Yet it won the game of the year. Was that a game? The story and characters are solely the driving force for that game. People need to play the actual game themselves and not let reviews dictate or sway their views.

[@ExcelStrategy]

American Truck Simulator is wayy better that this thing lol.

[@tawilk]

just watch the cutscenes on youtube for free and avoid the $60 and encouraging developers to do similar activities.

[@davekorus]

Fun fact: Kojima barely took part in the development of Zone of the Enders. Kojima's input in ZOE is as shallow as Inafune for Megaman.

[@rvictor906]

He was more a Producer if anything on that project.

[@sushiboots]

I don't know the facts, but I'd bet his involvement with ZOE 2 was limited to nothing more than lending Shuyo Murata some of the team that developed the graphics engine for MGS2. He might've sat in some preliminary story development meetings too. Other than that, Shuyo Murata and Yoji Shinkawa are the true masterminds behind that game.

[@HupCapNinja]

Dave Korus dude it’s official Kojima was just much of a problem to Konami as what Inafune was to Capcom. Kojima RUINED MGS 5! Sad part is MGS 5 is truly the best stealth game ever created in the gameplay department......

[@rvictor906]

@@sushiboots Tomokazu Fukushima was also the co writer of the first three MGS games.

[@TheGoldenPS1]

@@sushiboots Many who worked on environment in ZOE games and MGS2 are nowadays working at Sony Japan Studio according to Mobygames. I don't know what they are doing now but I think Fukushima has been transferred to RaySpace team (rumored utopian sci-fi mecha RPG) since The Tomorrow Children was wrapped up in 2016. I would guess he is in the writing team of RaySpace after the quality control team. Environment artists have probably transferred to RaySpace team as well. But the thing with this creative director (Tsutomu Kouno), he wants to innovate "new gameplay". What is most important to him is gameplay. I wish Kojima was not so full of himself. He has lost touch with the gaming industry.

[@347tester]

I wish gamers had high standards like you said they give out 9s and 8s like candy

[@reneepeck8094]

kenway leviathian Yes because how dare people have opinions.

[@mrshmuga9]

Renee Peck If you’re a critic, you should have a higher level of standard. If there are no standards and reviewers are no different than the rest of us schmucks except that they got it early, then why should ANYONE listen to what they say? What good is a review if what they’re saying is only applicable to them? It’s not. Because they’re paid to review they’re held to a higher standard, yet deflect to “well this is just my opinion, man” when people point out their flaws. It’s an excuse for them to avoid any criticisms against themselves, funny enough. It’s also a problem with big, faceless, websites. If you follow a KZbinr, you’ll be able to understand how their likes or dislikes are applicable to yours, because you’ve seen their views developed over dozens of games. But it’s hard to follow reviewers on big websites. You won’t be able to really know what they do/don’t like and how it contrasts to yours to make a proper purchasing decision. So on big websites, who’s reviewing it is irrelevant to most people because they don’t know where that person is coming from, yet they expect people to. Think of it like a friend’s recommendation versus a stranger’s. You’re more intimately aware of your friend’s interests, but a stranger’s input can be good if they have rules/standards because it means there’s consistency. I shouldn’t have to follow a reviewer to *really* understand their position, I should be able to tell from any one review. Because I shouldn’t be expected to know them first. It’s not a KZbinr’s job to review, their channel is whatever they make it. But it is a reviewer’s job to review because that’s what they’re literally paid to do.

[@RaimonTarou]

@@wodik7280 we do know what makes a good video game, are you stupid? obviously the no.1 criteria is whether the game is fun or not. there problem solved

[@Diddz]

i can see an era where the line between movies and video games are non existent, an age where video games are just 60+$ movies while movies are cheaper "video games" did the gaming review industry suddenly get replaced with cinema reviewers.... whatever happened to games that tell the story directly through the gameplay instead of movie chapters

[@revatronprime4120]

Cinema reviewers would rip this to shreds lmao. The story isn't good either

[@Chronoflation]

This video is the exact type of reason I listen to you Shokio. I was just talking to my friend about linguistics and how it can subtly add up and affect things and he was completely writing me off and getting pissed at me like I was saying something controversial to his beliefs even though I didn't argue against any of his beliefs, and just was talking about linguistic usage. This shit is important and it has dire consequences. Gameplay has been belittled and now here we are. Same reason I get mad at politicians going on and on for shit saying we're a democracy when we're a democratic republic. That's a very important distinction and it's so easy to find people these days who don't even know we're a democratic republic, or just think that it's some Republican propaganda to say we are. Like, no, it's actually propaganda to not point that out. Almost everything is linguistic propaganda, people are just too stupid to realize it, even the people saying the shit (maybe especially them)

[@VandalCabbage]

This game reminds me of The Tomorrow Children, if anyone remembers that dead game. Post apocalyptic setting, other worldly creatures, the same type of monotony and similar multiplayer/social elements. A focus on rebuilding society and all of that, just with a story attached.

[@BassEVG]

You should call this a "Death Stranding Review" Review.

[@shadow10r43]

He hasn't played the game.

[@SWVNGGVNG]

You don’t get it. He’s saying this is a review of the reviews. It’s a joke

[@shadow10r43]

@@SWVNGGVNG Ah. Bruh moment. I did not see the second 'Review'.

[@amestrisgone]

I agree with story not being able to carry a game A game should never forget its a game, ive said this in my xenoblade vid lol

[@jayDee92133]

OMG that gameplay was horrible.

[@scarrantsandreviews]

Gamestop gave it a 9. Barely talked about story. Like 75% of the review praised gameplay.

[@amestrisgone]

@@jayDee92133 how? elaborate

[@jayDee92133]

@@amestrisgone To slow, it had auto combat, QTE's, and and a bunch of unnecessary stuff you don't need to use to win fights. The best combat system for a jrps is between persona 5, Trails of Cold Steel, and Kingdom Hearts 3.

[@amestrisgone]

@@jayDee92133 i dont give 2 fucks about kh, so i wont comment on that LMFAO persona having great combat? yeah auto targetting weaknesses is so engaging. You say Xenoblade has unnecesary elements, when persona has game overs and potions, which factually do not make an rpg more skill oriented, xenoblade removed those aspects to keep you playing, the combat isnt that slow at all, sure it takes a while to get into it, but there is so many things, and combinations to explore While in rpgs like persona party members are essentially extra turns, instead of actual allies that support you

[@Crocodile7104]

Honestly i got nothing clever to say atm about these drones. How people can be this delusional about their fave content creator is beyond me lol.

[@VenomHernandez]

Because It's Kojima...

[@347tester]

Kojima is starting to get on my nerves his fans are straight up hipsters.

[@QFilmz]

Hideo Kojima could dip his balls in a bucket of paint & smear it all over a blank canvas & these people would still say it was “art”

[@LvUpRED]

@@347tester why would you hate him because of his fans?

[@yaoooy]

Look people I'm Kojima hurr durrrr, I'm the God of videogames hurrr duurrrrrrrrrrrr, I make a boring ass gameplay and fill it with cutscene with a nonsensical story because I'm Kojima hurrrrrrr and you re gonna pay 70 blocks for this shit and lick my feet hurrr durrrrrrrrrrr

[@VenomHernandez]

@@347tester I've met Kojima fans when I was in college... Wish I can erase that memory

[@felixblue5251]

*death stranding is not a “fun” game* 95 SCORE LMFAOOOO WHAT THE HELL 😂😂😂

[@cyphaborg6598]

yeah that doesn't make sense

[@felixblue5251]

CyphaBorg Yep, they’re straight up dogging the game in their opening lines then proceeding to give it amazing scores, I’m so confused lmao

[@futvnyc]

I'm getting starwars not this trash.

[@rajatmadan360]

@@futvnyc good decision

[@Rhodesiansneverdie]

They’re giving it perfect scores simply because the game is made by Kojima

[@purgatoriprytania5382]

I can deal with a lack of gameplay---hell, I like visual novels like Danganronpa---but having tedious, frustrating gameplay? That's where I draw the line.

[@BlesterTamer01]

Shokio is like the Etika of complaining videos, and I mean it in a good way. He gets so passionate about this, some people just think he is bitching for views or something, but it comes natural for him. I agree with you. At this point in time, we have to diferenciate videogames from interactive experiences, and treat them acordingly. They are not the same. Keep it up!

[@theprocrastinator6813]

He does!! i was looking for a comment like this, hes has really good insight on things like this and agree with his points

[@HupCapNinja]

Blester Etika’s spirit is in him All jokes aside dude now I hate Kojima because I realized that he ruined MGS and he didn’t even do most of the work. This game is going to fail and we have no one except Sony and Kojima to blame. If Sony didn’t give him so much freedom we would have had Death Stranding to have this awesome badass setting like how it is now BUT it will play like Metal Gear 5 where you invade bases etc but you can’t go out at night due to those Ink demons like how Final Fantasy XV semi punishes you for going at night..

[@fabiantalton6888]

Damn I miss Etika my bro... 😖 but yeah Shokio is 🤣

[@Protoman00]

ShokiRAGE. We need a ShokiRAGE emote for twitch.

[@scottmcdowell523]

Something which was a real red flag for me was when Kojima says he doesn’t play video games, he doesn’t have time for it, he has time to see art and films which is what it seems like he prefers. He should just make a movie instead. It’s a shame because MGS5 gameplay was so good

[@MrDmoney156]

I like how people shit on Shenmue 1 & 2 for being "boring" but yet turn it around for Death Stranding and say it's Game of The Year material for doing the same exact thing peeps claimed about the other game. Lol

[@NeroSpirito444]

Death Stranding is the Desert Bus of the 21st century.

[@camycoo]

Who knew IGN was the only review that said it was boring and gave an actual reasonable score for saying that. how the tables have turned!

[@UnexpectedWonder]

"It's not just about gameplay anymore." That's the most idiotic comment I've seen in awhile.

[@BlackangelKatakuri]

That’s like saying music isn’t just about music anymore

[@UnexpectedWonder]

@@BlackangelKatakuri Exactly!!! You totally understand.

[@kickitsmooth]

This was inevitable because of the IRL narrative of Kojima vs Konami. People are gonna rally behind this game no matter what and it’s guaranteed an award at the game awards.

[@Kyubi888Naruto]

It's hard to even talk about this game. I had to bow out of a conversation when someone said that a game that isn't fun is still enjoyable. Lol

[@gurpreetbhamra9752]

*I am enjoying Luigi's Mansion 3 atm!*

[@412JFury]

Amazing game, so much FUN

[@NewsanceInHD]

Gurpreet Bhamra Luigis Mansion 3 is fire!! 🔥

[@lewispedraza996]

Hooyah great game.

[@347tester]

Please do not stop making KZbin videos !!!! We need more real ones in gaming...

[@KiiroSagi]

KZbin doesn't pay well anymore, you get a small fraction of what ads get, if you even put ads in your vid. You can always ask him about his opinions on his Twitch channel, he typically answers chat.

[@Imhim247]

@@KiiroSagi Really? That's sucks. I was thinking of enjoy a YT partner.

[@TheBf666]

He is making this vid for the views, freaking out over trivial shit like review scores and opinions that no one will usually care about unless they are some sensitive ass snow flake who gets outraged over dumb shit. There are other more evil things companies do that we should worry about than some game that is narrative-driven and makes you do weird shit. Like seriously....It's not rocket science.

[@347tester]

@@TheBf666 shut up , people said this about fallout76 , anthem , bo4 , and more . Not my fault people said the game is not fun .

[@TheBf666]

@@347tester You mad little kid? Did I hit a nerve? Now go and cry in the corner you miserable little cretin, getting all outraged and butthurt over reviewer's opinions on games. Get a life.

[@mementoa9025]

If games like Shenmue, Pathologic, early Suda51 games and Drakengard 1 taught me anything, weird sometimes arthouse type games can still have an audience, I enjoy some of the above. Granted, I'm surprised Sony sunk a ton of money into Kojima's arthouse game and marketed it like it was for everyone, getting tons of actors for it too.

[@PrinceRevolver]

Critics don't play games. So coming across a boring and tedious games is viewed as being the second coming.

[@omoyeleR]

I trust his say so about games... honestly I think I will just watch a GAMEPLAY😐 and watch the story instead of buying it.

[@FourtySeven1983]

I will be a bit smarter. I will watch the gameplay and then decide whether to buy it or not.

[@tawilk]

@@FourtySeven1983 watch the 50 min TGS presentation. that's the gameplay in its entirety, so take that and repeat it about 60 times. save yourself money and time.

[@PrinceRevolver]

Stories carrying a game depends on the genre. Jrpgs in particular stories don't necessarily carry the entire game but it's one of the main requirements to keep you engaged.

[@thegamingspothd9557]

Prince Revolver yea. I’ve played several JRPGS will god awful stories but their gameplay definitely kept me playing for the entire journey

[@tawilk]

it's sad how few are actually understanding this. so many sad sheep out there.

[@ElDrHouse2010]

developers can make their wildest coolest dreams a reality in gameplay with modern technology and they choose to be gray anatomy watching boomers that make a fucking USPS simulator. Open world games are easy as fuck to make I hope you all know that.

[@ajulu9133]

I think you have to play it to understand. I don’t think it’s ‘overcelebrated’ at all. It has some great gameplay, getting away from BTs, MULES, getting through the terrain without damaging cargo, micro/macro manangement, even the satisfaction of getting thousands of likes after you set out extra time to help someone with a bridge/road! And then the action oriented segments are fun too. I’ve played (and beaten) all the games you’ve name including Astral Chain, Fire Emblem, RE2, Sekiro, and DMC5. And I can confidently say Death Stranding is a top 3 of the year for sure, and I’m saying that around 35 hours in my first playthrough. I actually think what’s sad is that people are judging a book by its cover, and letting their hatred of the games director get in the way of trying something that’s genuinely new out. I’d recommend this game to anyone who wants a game that’s surprising in its progression!

[@dr5911]

I'll just watch the cutscenes in movie form

[@BlacknRedTed]

FACTS BRO !!! SPEAK ON IT !!! I've watched and read 10 reviews today and they all say the same thing....the game isnt fun, game play is boring, you are LITERALLY walking and climbing doing fetch quest but because the world looks ok and the story is "ok".....9 OUT OF 10 !!! Excuse my language but all these Kojima dick swollowers, big upping a mediocre ass game....SCREW THEM AND THIS GAME BRO !!!

[@ofensatul]

BASED review , people are starting to wake up this game should receive the Golden Raspberry for the worst game of the decade.

[@LucarioDXAuraStorm]

4:28 "This is my opinion, but I'm very adamant about it. I believe in it 100%....... Fuck it. This isn't my opinion. Fuck you. This is a fact!" Lmaoooooo I'mma use this as a meme one day.

[@futvnyc]

Funny how gamespot gave recore a 5.0 for having a " empty open world" but death stranding got a 9.0 from gamespot for being a straight up walking simulator set in a dead open world.

[@TheBf666]

Gamespot is not perfect, but Recore is a joke, and it's "world" is lame as well. Have YOU played death stranding and saw its "world" yet? Exactly...

[@futvnyc]

@@TheBf666 I own recore its actually alot of fun and its world is full of challenging platforming. The world of death stranding is walking on rocks ,climbing ladders and climbing up rocks in the slowest most boring fashion possible . zero reviews have said anything about the gameplay being good in death stranding but I have heard it called boring. Recore is fun and if that game was a switch exclusives I would put money it would have been a10 rated title. recore even in videos looks fun but death stranding in a 30min play through looks like fucking trash. Jeff from gamespot.com said death stranding is awful.

[@greenpieceofmind]

People may just be in denial that the Oh-so-great Hideous Kojima made a mediocre game

[@GoldLBS]

3 out of 5 main MGS games were mediocre.

[@swaggsavage313]

@@GoldLBS I'm very curious which of the three do you think were mediocre?

[@metroidcypher]

@@swaggsavage313 I personally think it started at 4 and just went downhill after that.

[@GoldLBS]

@@swaggsavage313 2 4 5. 1 and 3 were great.

[@greenpieceofmind]

@@GoldLBS Sounds about right

[@Tenzima]

İ honestly agree with Shok's stance on story... unless they're RPGs. But for the most part, John Carmack's quote rings true "Story in a game is like story in a porn movie, it's expected to be there, but it's NOT THAT İMPORTANT."

[@amestrisgone]

nah, xenoblade is fucking fun and has a great story, rpgs dont have that excuse anymore

[@Tenzima]

@@amestrisgone Honestly haven't played that one, but Witcher 3 and the like also enter this category in terms of fun and story

[@1SWINZ1]

You said you've been worried about this for a long time, in reference to the cinematic wave currently washing over the games industry. Man, thank you so fucking much for speaking up about this! It feels so good to find somebody who has the same concerns that I do. That rant that you went in to about "Game... Game - play!... Game! How is the GAMEplay not the most important thing", and your point that this will be thought of as "GAME" of the year, man, you sound exactly like I do, haha. I've screamed those exact same things to myself over and over again, this past 8 years or so. It's truly perplexing. The issue, I think, is that you've got these people who, for the past 10 years, have played nothing but games with little-to-no gameplay, and so they've literally forgotten what a "game" is.... and I stress the word "literally". They think that the story is the game, and that the gameplay is unimportant. It's really an incredible thing to watch, and it's such a twisted mess that it's hard to see how to even begin cleaning it up.

[@TheBf666]

Scores are just scores, so why are people freaking out over arbitrary scores/opinions, making it such a big deal? What matters if YOU like it or not when you play it for yourself. Everybody knows this game will be slow. It's either freaking out for no reason and trying to find things to get outraged, or for the drama and views.

[@LvUpRED]

Why care about anything then......

[@juicedup14]

Geof Keighly will sing praises for this.

[@Lwiis64]

His face basically lives up Kojima's ass, so yes.

[@Daniel-Rain-YT]

Poor gaming... videogames aren't movies and graphics/story alone doesn't make a good videogame nor a masterpiece. P.S i agree with you, nice video.

[@Digi-Darty77]

People are bashing ign because they talked about the gameplay more than story, and gave it a 6.8. If the game is repetitive and boring, which are factors that would lower another games score, death stranding shouldn't be the exception. Even if it is meant to be a delivery game. Heck one of the talking points are how simple the bosses are should you encounter one.

[@MrKajjaGG]

It's a game where the gameplay revolves entirely around what people would consider to be fetch quests in every other game.

[@Digi-Darty77]

@@MrKajjaGG which really confuses me. Most of the time people hate fetch quest that are meant to just pad the game. But here its fine. Guess he really nailed the atmosphere to where traveling doesnt feel like a choor?

[@MrKajjaGG]

@@Digi-Darty77 Yeah, generally fetch quests are viewed as nothing but padding in open world games, but here it is the central focus of the moment to moment gameplay. I'll be honest though, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't still at least slightly interested in this game. Might grab it during its first decent sale. Deffo not a release day purchase.

[@Digi-Darty77]

@@MrKajjaGG I'm still picking the game up to experience it. I'm just so confused on reviewers giving so many cons yet a high score is all. Best example is crackdown 3 was blasted for repetitive gameplay and pretty simple. Low score. Death stranding has repetitive gsmeplay and pretty easy combat (from what i hear), 9. Must be a god tier story but even then a 9 is a bit high

[@TheBf666]

Just because a game is fun doesn't mean it will be great. I view games such as duke nukem, saints row, crackdown, dead rising and sunset overdrive as fun games, but are they great games? Heck no! I have no problems with reviews scoring this game high and also mentioning that it may not be "fun" which they quoted that word in. Maybe there are other things about the game that is great, and they liked it, so why get outraged over the "fun" part? People are just reaching for reasons to get outraged just for the sake of drama, and shokio has been known for this. There are more concerning things that is happening in the gaming industry that worries me more than freaking out over narrative-driven games. Oh shit, narrative-driven? Is that a taboo word?

[@generativeyoutuber]

if its not about the gameplay anymore....THAN ITS NOT A FUCKING GAME LOL

[@Nin10Guy]

4:34 THANK YOU!!! I have been saying this for years! Gameplay is and always will be king. The story could be groundbreaking as hell but if the gameplay itself falls flat, then why does this need to be a video game in the first place? Why couldn't this be a movie or a novel instead? Having an amazing story with great cinematics in a lack luster game is nothing more than wasted art that could've been better off elsewhere. This was a beautiful rant. I agreed with 100% everything you said.

[@milboxr9772]

What do you think of things like Detroit become human?

[@Vyse195]

The one review I saw said "long parts can be boring and boss battles took to long" just got a 8 out of 10.

[@Hits9Nine]

I was 100% on your side yesterday at 430pm, at 515pm my opinion changed. There is just something about Death Stranding that so compelling. It's an adventure

[@pmx777]

People trashed IGN for their review (because they're usually incompetent shills) except this time they were honest! I'm 10 hours in and tried to enjoy it but this game is absolute trash. Going to return it tomorrow. Kojima needs to go make mediocre movies instead of games.

[@crazysmokin]

See it like this if you lose your supplies in the middle of a snowstorm and you have to carefully walk back without any means of transportation it's not "fun" but when you do reach your destination despite all the troubles you had a long the way it's immensely satisfying

[@omoyeleR]

I swear I remember you saying it back in the day cuz. Still a long time viewer

[@CupOfJoe-zk8jj]

Thank You! If any other developer did this they wouldn't be getting a free pass. Kojima himself said he didn't understand the story. So boring gameplay, boring world that is barren with little to nothing to do, and a confusing story. This is the exact same thing to happen in MGS5

[@Jkunable]

I need to see a full let's play of this game from you, lol please do it

[@Yuri-kh8wv]

That's what i like about Nintendo, they can be old-fashioned (in a bad way) but at-least they major games are actually GAMES, they are actually focused on the experience, on the gameplay, that's why i'm a Nintendo guy.

[@omgzack53]

IGN's 68 score gave me life

[@347tester]

Fr it's b.s. I love a good story but it should coexist with the gameplay.

[@zakinorse3059]

Because they kept it 100 percent real

[@turkiedurkie4895]

BulletTooth lmao who trusts IGN...

[@zakinorse3059]

TurkieDurkie If you actually listen to the video they made all valid points.

[@cyphaborg6598]

lol 68,they actually went below the Xbox 69 score meme.I'm having doubts about the purpose of this review.

[@NorthernMigrationTravel]

So true! This game is a joke!

[@MirruArcade]

The gameplay is why I haven’t preordered lol

[@mostlycharlie]

I think this game has the potential to be engaging. I’ve heard some people discuss on podcasts how there’s a lot of mundanity, but a larger gameplay loop and some intriguing systems available that kept them going. Personally, I’m interested in trying it out and seeing how it fits. I hear you completely about scores. At this point, I don’t trust scores anymore. I wanna know what a reviewer’s experience was, because that’s what I’m basing my purchase on. What kind of experience will a game give me? I get to decide if I’m down for that.

[@jacke2371]

I've seen many conceptual idea such as kojima death stranding before at my art college. Its basically a soup bowl of ideas that has a catchy art style n title at the front heading. I'll pass.

[@theprocrastinator6813]

Its basically a burger that only looks good on the poster, until you buy it, then you see emptiness

[@antiform47]

As someone who actually played the game, ive had so much fun with it *including* the gameplay. People are blowing the whole "delivery simulator" thing out of proportion. This game is an experience that is so unique and different that it has the ability to actually make you feel excitement, fear, etc. The game is not boring in anyway tbh idk why the reviewers said that, i mean im pretty sure it was just a poorly worded way of them trying to explain that its not "fun" as in "goofy/lighthearted" it is dark and serious most of the time but it is also fun and exciting and it pushes the medium of videogames forward and I think it could easily deserve game of the year. Basically everything that was said in this rant was ignorant because it was spoken by someone who hasnt played the game and misinterpreted reviewers intent. At the end of the day though its subjective whether you like the game or not, but to say that it is "less of a game" because of its gameplay style is simply false. The best i could compare it to would be someone ranting that a the horror gane genre are lesser games simply because you just "walk around in a house" most of the time. The gameplay serves to compliment the other aspects of the game in a way that feels incredibly immersive and exciting.

[@stupendously_silly]

Careful now. The sheeps from the hate wagon is going to call you a kojima fanboi for liking the game even though they never played it at all.. Because hating kojima is the socially correct thing atm. They don't have a mind of their own. Gotta stick with the collective they say. Lol.

[@347tester]

Bruh look at the ign... that was them being honest and fanboys came flooding out .

[@TheDkmariolink]

Indie games are better than AAA games now. It's been that way for a while. Fraction of the price for 10x the amount of enjoyment.

[@dannya3000]

That why I've been more about indies then AAA this gen.

[@KJBlueAvenger]

Facts

[@delko000]

Absolutely

[@shininimus]

this is why no matter how good a fighting game it will never blow up even the ones that sell well they sell for reasons out side of the gameplay. i feel like games in general have started to focus less on pushing gameplay mechanics and ideas.

[@347tester]

Yes ! I feel like this generation people are so desperate they will give anything a 9 or 8

[@farronabysswatcher1881]

Make this game an AR experience and just let people delivering stuff irl

[@jaywoo981]

Lol I would rather listen to your rant all day which is more interesting then waste money on this piece of shit game/experience.

[@bennyramos388]

FanBots: Did you EvEn plAy tHe gaME.. Me: Yes and it's still boring.. Fanbot: WeLl tHe gAMe IS NoT fOR yoU.. Me: *Surprise pikachu face*

[@christianlopez707]

I think people are giving it good scores because it's a Hideo Kojima game, not because of the story. They are just using the story as a justification or an excuse for the score.

[@gamingtyphoon8989]

Shit like this been happening. Adam Sessler said he doesn’t like multiplayer only games and still gave the original titanfall a perfect score

[@BrokerCast]

Death Stranding is just Kojima's ultimate vanity project tbh. Like you said, some games choose to focus on story and not gameplay like Heavy Rain, Walking Dead and old PC adventure games like Secret of Monkey Island. It's fine to have games like that but they're not GOTY material because they only focus on being good in one category. This game DOES have gameplay in it and it still focuses on it, but the problem is that the gameplay just looks like dog shit and somehow it's still gonna get GOTY nominations. I doubt the story will be a good story either. Phantom Pain's story was garbage, even by Metal Gear standards.

[@TheFurryInShambles]

Only cause Konami rushed Kojima and his studio with MGS5.

[@charleslowe8701]

@@TheFurryInShambles Konami gave kojima PLENTY of time to develop the phantom pain Even then he went waaay over budget and even said he would need at least another year to complete it Do some research , Konami had valid reasons for sacking kojima

[@TheFurryInShambles]

@@charleslowe8701 Well some things change all the time during development. Maybe he was done plenty of times with different builds he had,but thought weren't good enough. Nothing should be cookie cutter stuff.

[@charleslowe8701]

@@TheFurryInShambles Or maybe Konami refused to further fund his title because they realised he was a hack?

[@TheFurryInShambles]

@@charleslowe8701 Ok sure.

[@347tester]

I think at this point Nintendo makes games with heart and real gameplay

[@dannya3000]

That's why their my favorite company out of the big 3. Not that i have anything against sony and Microsoft i actually love my ps4. And if i could afford it i would get an xbox as well. But Nintendo will always be no.1 with me.

[@lupefiasco653]

You mean Mario kart tour microtransaction Trash?

[@joaokiwi2543]

Nintendo is trash.

[@icee113]

WarriYahTruth Nice deflecting there. The mobile market is an entirely different beast thus Nintendo has to follow the rules of that market.

[@ElSAVALDORfunes]

@@lupefiasco653 mario mobile has microsactions but is up to if you want to pay beside is just Mario kart 7 all over again

[@genki23]

I didn't have "fun" watching Joker, it's dark, serious and depressing but its a fantastic movie Maybe that is what PlayStation Lifestyle meant when they said "fun"?

[@VariantAEC]

Underrated comment right here. There are many books, movies, songs and games that are not "fun" and yet they are what they are. These idiots are literally arguing for cookie-cutter games which is actually what Shokio was arguing against last gen, but I guess he couldn't be arsed to look at his own track record.

[@mightymurph550]

The longer I watched the longer I understood what he meant. However I did preorder the game because it does look like something I can get into. Hell, when No mans sky first came out I loved it, not so much now. As I get older I’m finding that simplicity (which can be viewed as boring) in certain things are better for me than having a ton of features (which can be overwhelming and underutilized) Nice review.

[@koleth1]

It's going to be one of those rare times where I wait for a youtube "cutscenes only video game" to watch. It is a movie with boring as gameplay.

[@Warintello]

Ah yeah Journey imagine playing a game where you walk

[@kritikalgamer]

It's a point-n-click (visual novel) game without the point-n-click (let's add walking to a visual novel).

[@Johnichu11]

I don't even need to watch the full video that you are completely right. I don't understand how this game got this rating if it's not fun. If you want to go see nothing but cinematic, make it into a movie, not a game. A video game is to have fun. I do not intend to get Deaths Stranding anytime soon. I will stick to my RE2 Remake or DMC5 because I have "fun" playing those games.

[@TheMrTangamandapio]

I think where you lose me with your argument is what you said about GoW and Until Dawn. I get your point, you value action oriented games more than other things, and I get it, obviously I would sooner replay Metal Gear Rising than Beyond Two Souls, but I think you're looking at it the wrong way. Death Stranding really appeals to me because, one of the things that I really like is slow, methodical gameplay, preparation and, yes, hauling shit, I have 200 hours into Elite Dangerous and I still haven't touched combat, I just really like the logistics aspects of it. I can 100% understand literally everyone saying that's boring and shit, because it is, I just really like it lmao. When you say that games like this shouldn't get high scores, well, for me it should get a high score, because what I was looking for in this game, which I mentioned in the previous paragraph, is REALLY WELL DONE, the admittedly BORING PLANNING AND WALKING is WELL MADE, and I like it. I think the issue here is that a number will NEVER convey the quality of a game, because it truly depends on what the game wants to do, and how well it is executed. However, it is beyond me how the reviews say it isn't fun and give it a high score. They should at least mention how it appeals to weirdos like me (and it does). I'm not defending the reviews, they are poorly worded and make no sense, as usual.

[@user-xt4pk7my6h]

"How is a boring game so good???" The shilling is strong in this one.

[@delko000]

Absolutely 100% fucking agree. How can a boring game be considered a good game!?? I'm out of videogame if its future is like that!

[@Fodimin]

Stories can be better than the game and the game could still be could. I love Last of Us because of that. But the difference is that TLOU's gameplay is still fun, just outshined.

[@estrogenizedbird9161]

It’s an experience. It’s not always about “shoot guns kill yeah!” It’s telling a story.

[@XmarcX92]

Then go read a book or go watch a movie. People buy games to play them, not watch them.