Link VS Cloud (Legend of Zelda VS Final Fantasy VII) | DEATH BATTLE!

[@Daitomodachi]

Yo Dai here, one of the animators for this Deathbattle. Wanna thank the Deathbattle team for allowing us to animate this rematch using Blender. It was one of the hardest projects I've ever worked on, but it was worth it. Hope you guys like more what the Blender team has in store.

[@TheLaserLordLOL]

You guys did amazing!

[@KlyntarNage666]

Props to you for the amazing animation

[@juubi249]

You did an absolutely fantastic job with this, thank you so much!

[@onboro7707]

Here to tell you that that fight was amazing! So intense, had me on the edge of my seat the whole time, especially towards the end!

[@Sean_Bird]

You guys made a great battle!

[@nadavcohen3721]

Cloud: *rides motorcycle* Link: "and I took that personally"

[@Jorgito-zq5iu]

Fr my man was chilling

[@quirinkanada2111]

Cloud took it personal when he started breaking the pots

[@teddlo9669]

*More like:* *Link:* "Hup. Hiya! HAIYA!"

[@xheralt]

How in the hell did Link end up with a 300hp "horse", and when did he learn how to drive?

[@tinywomanhours]

@Yol Riin Lask pretentious much?

[@nathanielgrindstaff4909]

I don't know about anyone else, but I am totally convinced that Link started this fight just because Cloud was going five miles over the speed limit.

[@sanbi221]

And Cloud finished it because Link broke those pots.

[@cormchaos2810]

I died laughing. Why is that so true tbh 😂

[@foxshock5571]

Actually, this is a prequel of Super Smash Bros. It show how Cloud got in Smash.

[@thedarkoracle4807]

@@foxshock5571 Does Link remember events from his past life, or is each Link effectively a new character?

[@zanelebushgenie270]

@@thedarkoracle4807 every link is a new person

[@alexacortes579]

Link pausing to break all the pots has me weak in the knees it’s too funny and too accurate

[@Chromaray]

I think I heard a heart sound effect so it's like breaking all the containers in a boss room.

[@thundergaming155]

Or pots under the gandorf arena in ocarina of time.

[@quicksilver5789]

I thought it was about getting more health, but the absolute gleaming smile on his face as he saw and ran up to the first pot proves it was just because he loves breaking them.

[@Blitzercyb-MX]

Then there is cloud who made sure not to have one break out of common courtesy.

[@seank.9213]

He was making a mess in flower girls church, unforgiveable.

[@wellthathappened9435]

I can’t get over the fact that Link stopped fighting just to smash some pots, my man

[@beipiaosaurus]

The sound effects do indicate he found a rupy.

[@pigifi]

wouldn't be link if he doesn't smash pottery.

[@juura78]

Cloud was a gentle man and saved a very innocent pot

[@Hyperneosonic97]

@@juura78 Also stopping Link from vandalizing the late Aerith's favourite place.

[@JaelinBezel]

Especially because that's what he does during boss fights too (to look for hearts) and, as evidenced by The Fierce Diety's Mask, this WAS a boss fight.

[@goatresx1799]

Link: breaks Aerith’s pots Cloud: *peace was never an option*

[@scotmmical2707]

Aerith x cloud forever

[@the300club8]

😅😅😂

[@RelativelyBest]

Cloud: Wants to protect pots. Link: Breaks any pots he sees. My God. They're _natural enemies!_

[@spidergoat533]

Watching link destroy pots without remorse was hilarious,

[@SDSXellan]

Idk, seems like your standard rpg game

[@redvelvet7706]

Such a little but neat detail is when the song of storms was not just part of the score, but altered the weather in order for Link to draw power from lightning. Love that.

[@juubi249]

I also love the slowed down, almost sort of mysterious feel the song of storms had in the score, it was so good

[@deathnights-bane3301]

I mean yes, but better songs could have been played to change the tide of battle

[@NTRWL69]

The fact that Cloud cares about that garden pot more than Link makes me laugh everytime Edit: Wow thanks for more than 700 likes :D

[@CloudStrife8894]

Here's the thing with the pots though, Those pots and this is true because those pots belong to a close friend of mine that was killed by the hands of sephiroth.

[@worldscoolestperson7672]

@CloudStrife8894 thats rough, buddy.

[@matheusdiefenthaeler5342]

Oh Link probably care about these pots more than Cloud, just not in the way Cloud expected ...

[@samgourhan207]

There isnt anything he dont cherrish

[@smashbro67]

Fitting that Link cares less about the fight and more about breaking pottery.

[@oofergoofer1029]

Had me dying

[@TickedOffPriest]

Cloud cared more about saving the pottery.

[@Gameguy5289]

That and how Cloud was less focused about destroying stuff. Shows how different their games are. Zelda's has items in pots and FF has theirs in fight drops and stores.

[@dp9139]

That was awesome! I'm so happy the show has been remade, it's beautiful. The end was no surprise though, Link is from an action game based on riddles while Cloud is from a fantasy x space opera game based on super powers.

[@Tinyangel12]

@@dp9139 now that I say that... I can see why he lost now XD

[@RealCFZ]

Link: *Becomes Fierce Deity* Cloud: WAIT A MINUTE?! •Long Sword •White Hair •Taller than me Cloud: You’ve gotta be shitting me. ??? next to Cloud’s ear: HELLO THERE!

[@ikeillue8385]

Nah, Fierce Deity's sword needs another foot or two added to it to be mistaken for Masamune. Also, Fierce Deity is missing those gorgeous locks, that are almost as long as the sword itself.

[@phanboy8059]

Is it wierd that the part where Link cannot stop himself from smashing the pots even though he is in the middle of a fight and Cloud going out of his way to save one of them is among my favorite parts of this episode?

[@nealenthenerd399]

I love he tries to care for Aerith’s church even in battle.

[@blueotter5954]

Elegant is it not

[@TrueZero2]

I was honestly expecting that last pot to come in clutch for Link at one point. Maybe it had a fairy in it.

[@RhizometricReality]

The animators did fantastic

[@astaku8374]

@@TrueZero2 I think I heard a recovery effect. He probably did find a fairy

[@melast4928]

I already guessed that Cloud would have won. But honestly for Link being just a human vs a literal superhuman he put up a good fight.

[@EntombedToast70]

Best part? Link probably just revived later on

[@porkcracklins630]

@@EntombedToast70 Or he didn't resurrect for a thousand years. It really depends on what the 3 goddesses need him for.

[@EntombedToast70]

@@porkcracklins630 true

[@pipzgutz]

Isn't link an elf?

[@EntombedToast70]

@@pipzgutz not really, most hylians die around 120-140, certainly long lived but not elves

[@hahamadeyouread214]

Imagine both of them eating a meal prepared by Link Cloud: What is this delicacy ? link: EH, HIYEW, DAAAH Cloud: sounds exotic

[@esteban8471]

I'd imagine Cloud's friends saying that instead but they would tell Cloud to thank Link and compliment the food. At least, that's the vibe the FF7 remake gave me.

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

@@esteban8471 yeah

[@goukisama007]

This is the best comment I've read on death battle 😂. Bravo!

[@hanburgundy4317]

Tifa: "Geez, Cloud; the least you could do is say thank you." Aeris: "Come on, Cloud. Tell Link thank you for the delicious meal he prepared." Cloud: "Hmm... thanks, it's... yummy."

[@hahamadeyouread214]

@@hanburgundy4317 link: HAH, ZEEAAAHH, AWOOO

[@tabby5228]

Best part was link stopping to destroy the pottery, and Cloud catching pottery to save it.

[@trythelight8319]

It was just *so* in character and had me laughing! The battle was also quite tense when it needed to be, second guessing my expectations each moment!

[@mattjohnson8585]

It even looked like Link kept trying for it and would have just ignored Cloud XD

[@justarandomguy54]

That was hilarious.

[@JD4Christ]

You don't break Aerith flower pots while Clouds around lol

[@PedroCampos-r1j]

Ben 10 Favhulia.

[@MrBruh77]

I just love how when Link was smashing pots, he used one as a weapon. At that point, I didn’t care who won I just loved the accuracy of that

[@morrigancollins2092]

I'd love to see this fight again now that Link has Tears of the Kingdom to draw on. Mechs aren't on par with summons but it'd still be fun to see Bahamut and ToTK mechs trading lasers, at least until the mech's batteries ran out.

[@themonkeyman2910]

Cloud when Link builds a floating mass of beam emmitters and construct heads:

[@TheBenchLord]

​@@themonkeyman2910Can't wait for Link vs Cloud 3 when Link pulls out a Gundam

[@wickian9571]

I get that they take everything from the media of the characters at face value to try and keep things "fair", but taking the Super Nova at face value and scaling Cloud to that level of durability(capable of tanking an actual super nova and then standing back up and dusting himself off) is just absurd lol.

[@dusk_phoenix07]

I don't think it would make much of a difference, especially if you consider Cloud when he reaches his full potential.

[@SurprisedFireflies-ik4kt]

Third time's the charm lol

[@pkillerx]

Link stopping to break pots/vases mid-fight is such a hilarious break in his character. The look in his eyes as he dashes towards the first pot makes me lose it every time.

[@nathanielbass771]

it's actually not a break in his character. Just about every boss fight he encounters has them and even if not, his most useful items come from them

[@zacharie2334]

@@nathanielbass771 And we hear a sound when he breaks them (probably the sound of gaining an item)

[@TheSuperSmashBros01]

A great attention to detail honestly

[@perryhahn5525]

Either way, the moment Link took off the cape and raised his sword for lightning was DOPE

[@Fenrix9]

14:35

[@TheSuperSmashBros01]

That was a badass moment

[@marioandfriends_official]

The fact that he set it up with the song of storms makes it a great detail too

[@kaelli2892]

Cloud VS Raiden | Final Fantasy vs Metal Gear Rising | DEATH BATTLE

[@AhmedAhmed-zm7dv]

If you don’t like the outcome, Settle it in Smash!!

[@bradhedgehog12]

Oh boy here we go. But my opinion still stands. I hope Link Wins again....but on the other Hand if Cloud wins the That makes them even. There both my main fighters of Smash Bros Anyways. Cloud can be worthy to Defeat Ganon though as proof as I did as Cloud taking on OOT Ganon Adventure mode Hardest lvl there is

[@standard1703]

@@bradhedgehog12 in terms of sheer strength and speed Cloud definitely wins, but Link has tons of tools. Both are great innovators and can think on their toes. I think the only thing that Link has over Cloud is a strong willpower and confidence in himself and his capabilities, and a shield. Since these guys use in-game stats and not story canon I know for a fact Link is still gonna be buffed wayy up and Cloud is gonna get nerfed, but regardless of the winner the fight will still be entertaining. Cloud and Link are both long time favorites so I could be satisfied with either winner

[@bradhedgehog12]

@@standard1703 Agree. Both boys again are my Main Smash Bro Fighters. And I think They make a good team.

[@chhaysour5241]

Wario vs King Dedede in a nutshell.

[@nooder0ni]

@@standard1703 Link also has the experience going for him. Like, by a LOT. Remember, he's basically the same soul being forced to reincarnate over multiple generations just to thwart the plans of literal Gods and Demons(and beat the ever living crap outta them, too). He ain't no ordinary fairy, boi.

[@MichaelMurphy-wv4so]

I love that Cloud cares about property while Link is just vandalizing everything in sight lol 😅

[@UltimateCrusherJoe]

I feel like speed scaling in death battle often doesn't reflect how fast the characters really are, like in that world are the laser beams and lightning attacks really as fast as ours? or with Cloud if he can scale to a creature who can move across the solar system in like 10 seconds then couldn't he have instantly travelled across the continent in his search of sephiroth if he is anyway scalable to that. I don't really have a solution, but I just feel these kind of speed scaling often gives a result which makes a character seem way faster than what they are otherwise represented as being in the game.

[@christophermonteith2774]

not the best, but kingdom hearts scaling would indicate FTL at least, so its not impossible

[@pandaeyez]

Nope. He doesn't need to be able to hurdle through the cosmos like Bahamut, simply reacting and moving fast enough to keep up with it is a feat in itself. Link doesn't zap across the skies like a lightning bolt either, but he can react fast enough to dodge it. Both Zack and Cloud being first class soldiers (or just being beyond the level of one in Cloud's case) meant they had superhuman reflexes and speed, but it's that reactive speed and their own speed that allows them to keep up with Bahamut and Sephiroth and Weapons, etc. If you can anticipate, react and move just fast enough, then a fast opponent means nothing.

[@turnttaco7661]

Yeah it's still a great fear for sure but death battle has always had trouble differentiating between travel speed and combat speed

[@DenderFriend]

You don't always move at your top speed or punch your strongest hit, but Death Battle judges characters based on their best.

[@XUIW]

I just don’t like how they use most of game logic/mechanics to justify a feat.

[@CityBoySeb]

Cloud: *survives a Supernova to the face* Zack: *dies from bullets*

[@SenjiroAkechi]

I mean, cloud got hurt by bullets too in advent children. Literally right after ff7.

[@TheTrueHolyDarkness]

Also Cloud: *gets stabbed by sephiroth.* Sephiroth: *gets counter-stabbed by cloud and thrown meters into the lifestream, but is perfectly fine later. So is cloud.* Dyne: *successfully commits suicide by jumping off a cliff after that whole barret episode.* Tifa: *gets slashed by sephiroth and falls down at least two stories worth of stairs. nah she's fine.* Aerith: *gets stabbed by sephiroth yet no amount of healing magic works all of a sudden(?).* Zack: *gets sniped and just plain drops dead.* Cloud: *sniped by a bullet that **_CLEARLY runs him through_** at the end of advent children. anti-climatically gets up two seconds later, no damage to his sweater (wut?).* Durability feats are HELLUVA inconsistent in FF7. It's just plain poor writing on FF7's part, and my greatest pet peeve with it's storytelling. I don't mean to bash everything about FF7's writing, but there's little to no tension in their fights precisely because there's no telling what's meant to be a "lethal wound" in their world. Too much anime-logic in how injuries work in their world if you ask me. It's one of the things I really appreciate about the FFXV: Kingslayer movie. Square's writers finally learned to treat a character getting injured as actually _getting injured._ If I told you that I work for Square-Enix, and that in the next big FVII update we're going to mix things up by having Yuffie, Vincent, and/or Cid getting sniped and/or stabbed with a piece of rhubarb (during a cutscene), as a fan, you'd have no idea as to whether or not you should be concerned with how we're "changing things." Wouldn't you?

[@TheTrueHolyDarkness]

EDIT: One last observation... Cloud: *can survive supernova, so naturally this makes him too durable for Link to handle* The rest of the Avalanche Cast: *can also survive supernova* By this logic, any member of AVALANCE is just plain too tanky to be stopped by the likes of say, Samus Aran's plasma beams, let alone Link, right? Fire Lord Ozai? More like Fire Loser Osai as far as Barrett's immune black ass is concerned. Not even the Phoenix Force could ever hope to put a dent into Yuffie Kisaragi! She's too stronk against flame! Superman's heat vision against the MIGHTY CAITH SITH?! Hardy har har. Such tactics are nothing before the almighty supernova durability feat. CAITH MOTHERFUCKIN SITH eats thousands of years worth of the Sun's energy output for breakfast! *Also according to Deathbattle.* Tifa Lockhart loses to Yang Xiao Long, a martial artist character whose signature super-power is called "Burn."

[@MashuTora]

@@TheTrueHolyDarkness I am in no way saying you're wrong, but I am giving what I think could be somewhat reasonable explanations. I'm not saying "actually it works like this," just how I think. Sephiroth could have missed vital organs. It's not impossible that Cloud would survive. After all, we know Sephiroth likes to play with his toys before he breaks them. The lifestream is insane and Sephiroth is essentially a clone of Jenova. Not surprised he survived. Dyne was a regular human. He fell and bashed his head probably who knows how many times, and didn't even struggle. Tifa could have gotten a shallow wound, doing more surface damage than real damage. Again, Sephi likes to play with his toys before he breaks them. As for the stairs, as long as she didn't break her neck, she'd come out with a few nasty bruises, but overall, okay. I still don't know about Aerith, but my idea is that dying and being K.O.'d is very different. Given how cheap materia and healing items can be, I feel that they cannot actually bring someone back to life. They can only resuscitate an unconscious person. That said, when Aerith got stabbed, I imagine is was right through the heart.

[@kirara2516]

@@SenjiroAkechi what you should be asking is, after Cloud gets hit by Yazoo, he then actually 'dies' by an explosion of Yazoo and Loz overloading their materia. Apparently exploding materia at point blank range is stronger than an exploding sun? I suppose we should be thankful Aerith and Zack decided to send him back from the lifestream.

[@Ultrastar08]

The track is called "Final Breath" that's a solid name

[@sdmffuentebella9002]

It is indeed.

[@sdmffuentebella9002]

All I need to know is when is it coming out

[@Silent_Fool]

@@sdmffuentebella9002 wait for Brandon Yates. Hopefully it comes out before this episode.

[@TheShadow1347]

Yep

[@charsonic1771]

I agree

[@TheSuperSmashBros01]

0:41 Intro 1:06 Link 6:06 Cloud 12:04 Fight

[@At-sign]

You are a true hero for some Completely useless to others

[@drmadhappy]

​@@At-sign the most factual comment in existence

[@starmancrusader]

I like how Cloud sees Link on the motorcycle after him and he’s like “him again”

[@gregbethscheider5912]

I was thinking the exact same thing that you said when I started watching the fight

[@nahor88]

Link already beat Cloud once; they weren't gonna have Link win again. Still safe to say Link wins a popularity contest.

[@hernandeznestor7685]

@@nahor88 well Super Man rektd Goku twice. If they do a 3rd round It would be just to please weebs AND neckbeards

[@nahor88]

@@hernandeznestor7685 I've never played a single Final Fantasy game, but I do know Link was able to block Omnislash the 1st round as regular Link using z-targeting... what happened to that?

[@hernandeznestor7685]

@@nahor88 you mean the figth were cloud didnt cast any spells while link used all His arsenals?

[@Zye1984]

I kinda wish you guys would stop equating dodging lasers as feats of speed. That's more of an anticipation in most cases. Or, automatically assuming a defeated enemy that can go super fast somehow means the fighter can too.

[@sircatfaceesq578]

I see it as their best attempt to pull something from nothing. I still hate it, but can understand why they do it

[@midashitegamer5264]

@@sircatfaceesq578 well actually no it's because these are video games, we can't have inputs that fast or no one would get past the first area, these are superhuman characters, for instance we know through cutscenes that cloud can block and dodge bullets, we've also been him dodge much fast things, and have immense feats of strength, in the remake we get to be cloud in pvp combat as a player character and not just a party member showing it is actually happening real time just the mechanics of the game prevent it from being played in such a way, and that's because it's a turn based rpg, that's it's genre, so likelihood is the interpretation you were meant to each is that cloud beat the dragon in real time combat and therefore had to keep up

[@midashitegamer5264]

@@sircatfaceesq578 also we know from multiple ff games that dragons have extreme speed strata and have an affinity for wht magic that boosts said speed stats, it's unreasonable to think they are slow just because the mechanics are that of a turn based rpg

[@midashitegamer5264]

@@sircatfaceesq578 link has lifted thousands of tons but he hasn't survived a supernova, link is fast but light has achieved faster travel and reaction speeds on foot, it's undeniable if you've played both games

[@ivoryraven3487]

Yup its pretty dumb, or scaling people to other people through a common foe, or a "anime quarrel"

[@ComicalRealm]

Fun fact: Cloud has the most player-controlled appearances of any character in the Final Fantasy series, and the second most appearances altogether, behind Gilgamesh.

[@smellyuncle]

At least Cloud is first protagonist to have the most player controlled appearances.

[@lynxfresh5214]

Gilgamesh is such a hilarious yet likeable character, I hope he appears in FFXVI.

[@SuperSwordman1]

Which makes me super depressed that Square keeps pushing this punk.

[@banditbro25]

To be fair, Gilgamesh in FF universe is a reality bender so him apparently being in every universe makes sense

[@smellyuncle]

@@banditbro25 That’s fair I guess.

[@Miko_Hanamori]

The only reason why Link lost is because they didn't include his speedrunner form

[@mysterykiddo2167]

LOL

[@AwesomeMooseSmile]

I still really want a death battle between speedrunner Link or Mario from the N64 games versus a KZbin poop character like Carlton Banks or Spingebill

[@martinbasten192]

They later explained that Cloud could even keep up with Bahamut going 1200x the speed of light. I doubt it would've worked

[@FollowYourTrueDreams]

@@martinbasten192 I think he was just making a reference to Terminal Montage, I don't think he was serious................

[@LyzeofQill]

Wouldn’t matter link is ass

[@skippygh0st248]

Seeing Link die in this isn't as bad or impactful to me considering all the torture and deaths I've put him throughout the 4 years of Breath of the Wild.

[@DOOGIE_PLAYZZZZ]

You had me in the first half not gonna lie

[@canyouhelpmegetto69kwithno22]

I’ve literally jumped off cliffs on purpose in botw on purpose cause I was bored

[@niasayamuongbo6498]

Zelda

[@Ethan-yd4gn]

Like when you're essentially on the standing on the bay of a pond, but still drown. Sad times

[@Twilight17Petkoton]

Even know Link lose to Cloud. But Cloud lost in Video games in E3 Nintendo got a S rank and Square Enix a D rank. Showing great game on Nintendo on up and down moments on E3. Square Enix not so much a little on worsted moments. So Link wins on video games.

[@baval5]

"as you can see Link can dodge this laser at the moment its fired" >Link begins dodging the laser a full 12 youtube frames and nearly a full second before it begins firing

[@sauce987654321]

That's what power wank looks like.

[@Gnostic88]

@@sauce987654321 For real. I remember their original fight with Link and Cloud. It was BS. glad this one made more sense.

[@ransac16]

If they wanted a better visual for reacting to/evading lasers they should have just used Link fighting Guardians.

[@Furebel]

I think they just wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, push his abilities to the limit, because honestly, he was uncomparable to Cloud, that can survive a dimension breaking supernova.

[@SD-uw7zu]

@@Gnostic88 exactly. Cloud got downplayed last time. And this is the first death battle rematch that wasn’t bad or controversial

[@alexcage08]

I knew link was losing once he grew. Usually whoever uses the big move first loses in death battle

[@mistersippi2945]

Huh, you’re right. Didn’t notice that.

[@TheBronf]

not all the time. allmight and might guy is a example. as well as kakashi and obi wan.

[@wolfwarrior1176]

@@TheBronf i still find it awesome that all might could go square off against 7 gates might guy

[@archibaldc.1833]

I think they started getting tired of the comments always making fun if that trope so they decide to invert it from time to time.

[@archibaldc.1833]

@@vginsprdsobepr9698 Cloid

[@ShadedTopaz1]

That was ... EPIC! Thank you so much for producing this!

[@blackshadow7354]

14:55 people were complaining about mipha's grace, how it wasn't used, but you can see mipha's magic and her voice here, link died but mipha saved him

[@tristanbowles7258]

Something I didn’t realize till the second watch. Very nice touch

[@sleepierhollow5892]

Kind of sucks man there are so many more things he could have used but didn't put any of them what about urbosa Fury daruk's protection or many other things like come on I don't want to sound salty or anyting but like they didn't use those things

[@edwardrealgames8906]

@@sleepierhollow5892 they explain why they don’t use those items. It comes down to I forgot what they said but yeah

[@palamecianrider7385]

@@sleepierhollow5892 its their explanation that when they put barriers or protection to both fighters, both also have ways to dispel them. Similar to the time stop conundrum.

[@justarandomguy54]

@@palamecianrider7385 I dunno, Zelda magic is different from FF7 magic. I’m not 100% sure dispel would work on Nayru’s love. And keep in mind that the magic armor, at least in TP, doesn’t make Link invincible, it just causes him to lose rupees instead of health. Until he runs out… I’d like to see a version of this where they both bring their s-game. No holds barred, all the research, all their gear, nothing held back. Cause one time Cloud was neutered, now Link was neutered, not to Cloud’s extent, but he was. I don’t care if it’s an hour long special; let’s put it to rest. At least until Link gets some new toys next year.

[@GamergaidenX]

This really hit on the fact that Link is a mischievous fairy child who just shows up, starts a fight, breaks pots, can just somehow duplicate himself. He's embodying Fae energy through this whole fight and I love it. even the transformation into Fierce Deity was like him taking the mask off and revealing his "true form" as some terrifying Fairy warrior. (despite that he puts a mask on to do this)

[@seanpazdera6407]

He's mischievous, but not evil. In Adult Link this manifests as little more than just lighthearted jokes every once in a while. Only Child Link shows anything immature. In either form he's meant to be something only the wicked fear anyway.

[@SirToaster9330]

he's not a fairy he's a human

[@QTA777]

LINK CANT DIE!!!!!! CLOUD IS A LOSER GUYS HES NOT SPOSTA WIN

[@stephenautopsy6246]

Fae means goblin like creature not fairy the fairy you are thinking of is just a kind of fae

[@lolrus5555]

@@QTA777 please shut up -_-

[@cloudnaeris7]

When Link dodges the laser it's a predictive roll, not a reflexive roll. Big difference.

[@mikeperez8]

This ^

[@MercerSin]

True, but speaking of the dodge mechanic, why didn’t link get the flurry effect? That’s (I like to think) his power in BOTW, all champs had one.

[@matthewcox69]

Same in the Naruto fight.

[@midashitegamer5264]

Bug difference? Reaction time and movement speed is the same, while it's not reflexive it's still the same speed, if you can predict light and dodge it, you're still moving faster than light in order to move out of it's way

[@midashitegamer5264]

@@matthewcox69 no, reflexive dodging and predictive dodging takes the same speed, based on time and distance it will always be the same speed, if you could predict and dodge light, you're doing it the same as a reflex, because you are still able to dodge it which requires you to be faster than it, only if time is increased or distance is increased can a predictive dodge be slower than a reflexive dodge, but we are talking the same exact time and distance here

[@stephen92]

So I just want to point out a few things that seem to have been left out of Link's armory: The Mirror Shield, capable of reflecting energy including all magic; the Pegasus boots and seeds which each significantly increase his speed; the Bunny Hood, also capable of increasing his speed; bomb arrows, not a significant threat to Cloud but still too effective for him to ignore; Cryonis pillars in the rain can even emerge out of mud and make excellent cover; Daruk's protection is an impenetrable barrier, as is Nayru's Love (I can see why those weren't included); and then there was no inclusion of the Hidden Skills like the shield attack that could've put Cloud off-balance every time he struck the shield. You know Link is good with that technique when he uses it to reflect lasers without the Mirror Shield

[@seanpazdera6407]

Most of those don't matter for anything at all.

[@stephen92]

@@seanpazdera6407 I think they matter a lot. The Mirror Shield makes Link effectively immune to magic and dangerous to even cast a spell on. I may be wrong, but I think the summon attacks are also magical which means these would also be reflected. Link is also able to exploit even a small opening with the flurry rush and a sucessful shield parry does exactly that. The movement speed buffs mean he'd be able to dodge more attacks rather than parry which means even more flurry rushes

[@seanpazdera6407]

@@stephen92 A great deal of spells in Final Fantasy aren't like Twinrova. Some are even explosions that appear around you or cause your blood to congeal and stuff. SummonING is magical, but summonS aren't inherently. It would be better to just have Link use his own summons. You can't Flurry Rush straight out of a Shield Bash. Movement speed buffs don't affect reactions.

[@stephen92]

@@seanpazdera6407 I know you can't flurry rush after a shield parry and that's not the point. The point is that it creates an opening for attacks. The movement speed buffs don't affect his ability to recognize a threat and decide to move, but they do affect the speed at which he can move once the threat is identified. His body can keep up a little better with his mind. What you say about ff magic, completely fair. I don't know the magic from that series nearly as well as others. However, it would certainly affect the fire, Ice, lightning and wind magic as well as likely poison magic. Like casting an attack spell on something with reflect, but it doesn't wear off

[@ikeillue8385]

@@stephen92 Most of those magics you mentioned aren't projectiles. Lightning is a projectile, but it originates from above, which would not only be unnatural for Link to actually block, but even if he did, that would leave a massive opening for Cloud to take advantage of.

[@thevisionary5313]

We all know why link lost. He forgot to grab the mid-dungeon item that can defeat cloud.

[@reaganhernandez6041]

He Already Did In His First Battle

[@mafrodisiak2673]

@@reaganhernandez6041 first battle!?

[@shanesmith2050]

@@mafrodisiak2673 this is the rematch

[@mrboerger1620]

Duh

[@emerylsg]

this was a very clever joke

[@StriderStryker]

Link/Cloud: *clash swords against each other* Ganondorf/Sephiroth: *starts laughing at them*

[@JustAPrinnyDood]

Ganondorf: "I see this as an absolute win!"

[@regretgaming2446]

Sephiroth ' aw man means I'm gonna have to deal with him now' Ganon 'sucks to be you.... mind if I take the triforce of courage?' Sephiroth *pulls sword* 'over my dead body' Boomstick 'its time for a dathbattlllllllllllllllle'

[@Jason-he1mr]

Ganondorf vs Sephiroth

[@andrewpenny4676]

@@Jason-he1mr Sorry he gonna have to take on dracula first.

[@davidgumazon]

Steve: Man, this Smash matchup is so good! **eats bread** Death Battle not Smash xD

[@daltoncarverxc]

They forgot the most important rune of all: the camera rune.

[@gmtwj-fye7898]

explain?

[@Blue_Firefox]

@@gmtwj-fye7898 selfies

[@faceache3466]

@@gmtwj-fye7898 I think that was supposed to be a joke

[@Silent_Fool]

In Age of Calamity, it’s stupidly powerful.

[@RevilloPhoenix]

@@gmtwj-fye7898 I think it's a reference to the original Link vs Cloud death battle where Link just blocks the onislash v5 simply by Z targeting lock on to keep turning at cloud with his shield. Using a meta game mechanic instead of a character feat as the match winning move.

[@BTAL1ama]

Man Link has some serious hammer space, even compared to an FF character. Also Cloud catching the pot like a tennis ball on his sword was pretty great lol

[@Beegrene]

I believe Nintendo Power said that he simply has really deep pockets. Or that may have been James Bond. I don't remember exactly.

[@firemasterluke]

A nit-pick I have is how the fight starts. Link doesn't go around hunting people down. I think a better start would be a person in Midgar asking Cloud to stop the "Jar smashing menace."

[@firemasterluke]

@@bellattery lol thanks

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Ohh, I like that much better!

[@synchrofanatic510]

There’s alot of weird choices for set pieces in this fight. Link hunting him down, the amount of time they focus on Cloud falling down the cliff and Cloud finding the Fusion Sword in the church when its supposed to be stored in his bike. I love that idea for an intro though.

[@freetoplayking7362]

Person: I drove Link away. My god, he was a hero. Link truly was an asset to this world. He was... [Link starts smashing Aerith's pottery] Cloud: ... a criminal! That's who he is! A vandal! He broke her pots! I want that man dead!

[@firemasterluke]

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 😁

[@prodiga7]

The bit with link breaking pots and cloud trying to save them is priceless

[@TheDisplacerBeast]

Much like the pots were. Thats why cloud tried to protect them.

[@sirrealgaming6913]

much like the pots themselves

[@Silent_Fool]

Cloud got some Wallace Wisdom.

[@ikonyk4370]

Reminds me of Jackie chan

[@reaganhernandez6041]

13:05 Cloud Strife: "Excuse Me?!"

[@drowsykyle8263]

Can we admit that Fierce Deity Link stomping towards Cloud was terrifying.

[@matheusdiefenthaeler5342]

Not so much when Cloud look at him with a "I don't care" face and dodge a giant bounder casually... But the Fierce Deity form is very cool

[@PotatoWithALaptop]

⁠@@matheusdiefenthaeler5342If I remember correctly it turns him into a literal god at least as close to one as possible.

[@matheusdiefenthaeler5342]

​@@PotatoWithALaptop right, it does turn him into a god, but as every game, series, movies and cartoons shows to us is that gods are subjective, different in every world, and the ones in Legend of Zelda... well... you can easily picture all of them dying...

[@noabsolutelynot3660]

​@@matheusdiefenthaeler5342 Not really. The only gods we've actually seen in Zelda are FD, Hylia and the Golden ones. The Golden ones are many times the power of the triforce, Hylia only seems weak because she had to reincarnate in Mortal form, and Fierce Deity is a planet buster at *least*

[@nori87]

nah

[@vupow4449]

14:48 Link releases a beam from his sword like in smash ultimate due to not taking any damage yet is an amazing detail

[@zauztheblacksmith]

I think that's meant to be a Lightning Strike from Skyward Sword, since an F-Smash beam in Smash Bros isn't anywhere near that powerful.

[@sabin97]

he has had that ability since the legend of zelda. decades ago. do you remember a console called the "nintendo entertainment system"(also known as the famicom)? since those days he's had that skill.

[@RealCFZ]

Technically, he has that ability back in the first NES Zelda game (even without the Master Sword). Link to the Past is the first game where Master Sword that debut.

[@ariwl1]

Character descriptions. Link: Here are all the spells, tools, and abilities his many different incarnations have had over the years. Cloud: Here are all the reasons he needs therapy.

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

Pretty much

[@Silent_Fool]

Sephiroth: Hello there! I want a barbeque. A chocobo barbeque.

[@NoFocksGiven_]

Cloud: as my therapist says. Stay where you belong. In my head.

[@theadmirableadmiral7408]

@@NoFocksGiven_ I… will never stay in your head.

[@classicsagat]

@@Silent_Fool Or Midgar Zolom BBQ? I mean he made it ready for shishkabobs lolol

[@beastywilliams3447]

I didn’t even care who would win, this battle was lit! Especially when Fierce Deity Link rose up from the rubble! Hearing the power in those footsteps and his approach was just Godly!! Awesome job animators!

[@JaelinBezel]

I really liked the bit of Link using the Song of Storms to fling lightning.

[@Ignore__Me]

Don’t worry guys, if Link dies we can always clap and bring him back to life.

[@Cam-jl9kh]

"He's not a fairy!"

[@juubi249]

That just sent me back 9 years

[@Silent_Fool]

He’s not a fairy! He’s a lost boy from Neverland.

[@Wolfo277]

I'll be sad if he does tho 😥

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

@@Silent_Fool Peter pan

[@NeverWokeNotASoiBoy]

This was epic, my two favourite protagonists and I'm happy with the analysis, great video.

[@KRIOSthe5th]

This has to be the most visually stunning battle for me. Link catching the lightning, Cloud rising in the fire, Fierce Diety rising from the rubble, Cloud in the moon, and the final 9999 were all poster worthy. It was beautiful

[@JamisonWormley]

this fight was amazing 10/10

[@pantherman691]

That was humiliating

[@theggamer2824]

Technically His red Ring would reduce that damage to around 2500 damage

[@weskintime4177]

@@theggamer2824 still more than enough.

[@wind64a39]

​@@theggamer2824 9999 is the damage cap, but it's possible to get the base force behind it to become far greater. In that case, the reduced damage will still hit 9999.

[@somacraig]

Link: *slowly rolls about 5 feet in 1 second* Death Battle: HE CAN MOVE AT 1/10TH THE SPEED OF LIGHT! Cloud: *swings a sword at a dragon* Death Battle: HE'S MOVING AT 1200X THE SPEED OF LIGHT!!! I wonder how fast these guys think Epona and the Hardy-Daytona are...

[@jasondarmasaputra7307]

I agree that statement is stupid, link should be considered predicting where the laser would hit, and dodged, and cloud is fighting a dragon who is probably slowing it self down in order to fight back, i mean we can see that the dragon stood still while he demolished that beast

[@DJCreepero]

@@jasondarmasaputra7307 this man already smarter than most researchers in death battle but sadly these researchers take it literally and use average also it felt unfair on how cloud can survive a supernova while link could barely handle it oh wait cloud almost died by a sword does that mean that sword can kill 5 solar systems no they just use average so Cloud wins

[@GuyWithAnAmazingHat]

On top of that the reaction speed needed isn't that much because Link dodging the "laser" is literally performed by any average player of the game.

[@theovernight1915]

@@jasondarmasaputra7307 I'll provide a little pushback here. I definitely had a similar reaction at first, but consider what's also happening here: game designers cannot make games that require a player be able to function at 1/10th the speed of light - never mind 1200x's the speed of light! The game mechanics are designed to let us experience a simulation of being super-human but if you put the gameplay in a realistic setting, you could easily argue that for Link or Cloud to avoid laser beams (which probably would not politely draw lines in the dirt to give you a chance to avoid them) or dragon gods (who probably wouldn't politely wait for you to take your turn before ripping you to bits at ultra lightspeed) - they'd have to actually possess attributes sufficient to overcome those real-world threats!

[@caesarroe1283]

@@jasondarmasaputra7307 Nah it was Ultra Instinc dragon 😉😉

[@blueblaze8105]

This feels like a final fantasy boss with multiple phases like with a one on one then fighting against the four sword then the giant fierce deity. Amazing!

[@SeaOfPixels]

This death battle is so strange. There are several times where we have Link use his powers in the least effective way possible just so the fight continues. Ie: uses ancient arrows but shoots the bike instead of Cloud, uses stasis but just stands there instead of actually doing something during the time freeze, and then he uses the invisibility cloak to do nothing? These are the kinds of things I expect to see from the death battle combatant that ends up winning, to show how many powers they have over their opponent and how many ways they could win, but he lost in the end?

[@ICTON123]

The animation is just for entertainment, it's not a simulation. If it was trying to be accurate, then Cloud would realistically just end Link in an instant. Anyway, no, Link was actually using them as best he could. He baited Cloud using Magnesis to draw him near the bike and then used it on the bike to ensure that Cloud couldn't see or dodge the arrow (we see that Cloud is incredibly near the bike and gets hit by the Ancient Arrow's explosion), but Cloud toughed it out. He very clearly did not just stand there during Stasis, Cloud used his own time stop on Link. And he uses the invisibility cloak to escape Cloud's attack and get as far as he can, but as they already showed, he wouldn't be able to attack like that cause he's intangible, and he can't stay cloaked cause the cloak drains mana.

[@superspell1]

@@ICTON123 In the games link actually can attack while under that cloak, and he should have 3 days of limitless magic thanks to the power of milk.

[@PedroCampos-r1j]

Ltbimncuia.

[@VGHistory1]

Final Breath is one of the best DB themes that's been produced by Brandon. So glad he's been able to provide bangers for DB for years now.

[@brandonbrisson4455]

Your welcome

[@Ernireg3]

Everyone keeps saying Link was breaking Aerith's" pots but if you take a closer look, those pots have the Gerudo symbol on them.

[@OidBuddy]

Even if they do have the Gerudo symbol. The pots were probably meant to be Aerith"s. She probably bought them on amaxon or ebay.

[@geminuri]

she traded flowers for them. duh.

[@negr0mancer]

maybe aerith was a loz fan

[@jamesmerkel1932]

Or perhaps tifa, being the thoughtful one, bought them afterward to grow flowers in Aeriths memory. If they weren't tied to aerith in some way Cloud wouldn't have cared to keep link from breaking them lol

[@hyperuser5473]

Cloud is a tifa fan

[@seanpazdera6407]

I would like to point out that in the lore, BotW Link didn't just get timed abilities from the Champions' spirits, he got their abilities themselves transferred to him. For example he should be able to heal whoever he wants, create air as he pleases, and spam Daruk's Protection like the people who were born with those powers.

[@Bleeperblopper497]

I don't think that matters much when the summon, Knights of the Round, ignores defenses along with Cloud having Protective Boots that make him Immune to Slow and Stop, therefore Cloud flat out wins in the Time Stopping department and people that say Link somehow resists Time Stopping are reaching too much. The Q&A Blogspot posted by the Research Team and Ultraguy, after this fight came out, went into FULL detail on why Cloud definitely wins, not to mention compositing Link in general is BS and Non-Canon, has never been shown having all of his weapons and abilities at once in the games and the fact that the Hero of Time was clearly a separate being from Twilight Princess Link and had to actually teach the other person their techniques instead of remembering their past lives where even if you do composite, it only seems fair to let Cloud have all of his Materia which can actually counter all of Links Gear along with Clouds Ribbon, Boots, Summons and Spells, its just that most people think that Links gear is more memorable and don't pay much attention to all the stuff Cloud has and you can even make a good argument that Cloud actually CAN use any Materia as explained in the Q&A. They even debunked Universal Link in that one, too. I was even able to change Smash Brackets mind on the Verdict too by pointing them towards that Q&A when they were sure Link had this with the Chateau Romani and Magic Cape, but again, Knights of the Round and a few other counters Cloud had that could make him attack intangible beings.

[@iTristendo]

@@Joker3180Z It is okay-watch the first version of this Death Battle.

[@iTristendo]

@@Joker3180Z true. The way they worded the ending (and the fact that they each have won against each other) proves to me that the fight can go either way.

[@iTristendo]

@@Joker3180Z I don't base the actual details of the fight as things that matter-it's more of the outcome. The fight is really just there to entertain us and the logistics of every detail doesn't matter as much. I actually agree with you and think that shouldn't be possible but that wasn't the point of the fight.

[@chadikhr7258]

@@Joker3180Z lmfao bruh bro really watched this vid and said ''i'm gonna pretend i didn't see that'' link simps lmao as for cloud simps they surley are eating good tonight

[@TheBigTopaz]

Not a fan of how Mipha’s Grace was the only Champion ability that Link could use in this battle, Daruk’s Protection easily could’ve Link the edge of used sparingly, also Link’s Bullet Time ability was completely ignored, which is very weird considering the first time he shoots and arrow at Cloud is when he’s in the air, if Bullet Time was considered then Link could end the battle quickly

[@jaxsonevans7796]

That's if Cloud doesn't even use his abilities or powers at all. Like did you even consider Cloud would even let all this happen?

[@ikeillue8385]

The issue is, though said abilities were not included in the fight, they were taken into consideration. Its just that they didn't have the time or budget to include everything from both characters. The fact of the matter is, none of Link's arsenal makes any real difference. Daruk's protection isn't going to do much. Being able to block 3 attacks isn't going to change anything, when his opponent is massively stronger and faster than Link. Not to mention, Cloud literally has the ability to turn off barrier, like Daruk's, on a whim (Turning off magical effects like that is literally the purpose of the magic, dispel.). As far as bullet time, when you consider how much faster Cloud is than Link, even when Link has bullet time active, Cloud would still be moving faster than Link could comprehend. Ignoring that point, it still wouldn't have ended the fight for 2 major reasons. Reason 1, in BOTW, Ancient arrows don't do the instant death effect on more powerful enemies, such as bosses, and Cloud EASILY outpowers every boss in LOZ combined. Reason 2, even if we ignore reason 1, and assume the instant death would work on Cloud, it still doesn't matter, because Cloud literally has immunity to instant death effects. Point being, best case scenario for Link, Ancient arrows would only do damage to Cloud, and considering the power difference between the two, that damage would be negligible.

[@TheBigTopaz]

@@ikeillue8385 the Ancient Arrows confine all goes into oblivion in lore, in game is a different story and since they are using in story details and not in game details, Ancient Arrows always confine the Target into oblivion

[@ikeillue8385]

@@TheBigTopaz Why didn't he just use the arrows on Ganon then? Would it not have been much easier to "confine him into oblivion" than fighting him as he did? In lore, there are limitations to it, otherwise the story would be trivialized. Also, it makes little difference. Cloud could still just use exit materia (which is dimensional hopping materia) to escape "oblivion" whatever that may mean.

[@johnpett1955]

Imagine bullet time+ silver arrows. That would be crazy.

[@AgentHooligan]

"Cloud and Zack die from bullets" Ok but Link dies to chickens...

[@CosmicGoku529]

Hold up there. Those chicken are way more deadly than a bullet. They are immortal bringers of death.

[@richardlabrie515]

@@CosmicGoku529 Those chickens can even defeat Ganon!

[@floatingf8783]

As of Breath of the Wild, Cucoos are terrifying monsters when provoked in-universe, they're not ordinary chickens.

[@goldenboy2740]

Don't worry though, each of those bullets are probably stronger then the supernova that hit Cloud (Deathbattle logic)

[@Schale.kivotos]

It's seems you not play the game huh That's chicken is frkin immortal and can beat ganon! Even guy like Cloud is no match for Mighty Chicken CUCCO!

[@vm141789]

Totally inaccurate. Cloud never asked for his money.

[@plusultra12001]

Completely inaccurate. But your reasons is questionable

[@Rebel_Friend]

We never did see what kind of loot Link dropped, so maybe he dropped some rupees. The real challenge would be to exchange said rupees for gil.

[@toadboy4]

Cloud had to finish being Aerith’s bodyguard

[@deep-sleep4473]

Cloud: Cruising on his Motorcycle Link: ...And I took that personally

[@SirMonty_]

I mean they both should've ridden motorcycles and have riding duel

[@nav3346]

And then Yusei shows up and sets 1 card face down

[@SirMonty_]

@@nav3346 yeah also bruno aka ANTINOMY

[@tquatMassEffect]

He probably just thought they were in a Mario cart level

[@creamncheese7761]

I actually wonder if that was the inspiration

[@rodrickgoldberg2324]

Wait a minute, why were Cloud and Link driving through a tunnel that just spits people off a cliff?

[@troodontalon5990]

It apparently led toward the temple where Cloud met Aerith, so Cloud may have been going to check up on it, pay respects, etc. As for why Link saw fit to follow him... eh, that's a little harder to explain. Maybe he got a side quest from Shinra without realizing what he was getting into or who he was working for.

[@rodrickgoldberg2324]

@@troodontalon5990 That still doesn’t explain why Cloud chose that route specifically. Wasn’t there a better way to get to his destination?

[@troodontalon5990]

@@rodrickgoldberg2324 That all depends on where he was coming from. If he was on his way back from a mission on Midgar, probably not. Cloud has never been *that* great at discretion (it's a little hard to blend into a crowd with such a big sword on your back) and Shinra troops would be more hesitant to follow him into an unfinished tunnel (most of them wouldn't survive the kind of falls that Cloud can shrug off).

[@Nightmare77110]

Pots: *exist* Link: “and I took it personally”

[@AmateurAnimations65]

Link: *Breaks pots* Cloud: And I took that personally

[@PedroCampos-r1j]

Sinslimnio.

[@JustAPrinnyDood]

I love how all the different Link's seemed to have unique personalities

[@AbyssalBlue24]

@Gabriel Salas even canonically they do have différents personalities, just look at ww waker and ss link

[@tempest2789]

I mean, they are different people

[@rodjjt7742]

I love how Link died

[@justarandomguy54]

@@rodjjt7742 This outcome was bull. It honestly seems like they weakened Link by removing key abilities to hand Cloud the win. I demand a rerematch.

[@justarandomguy54]

@@rodjjt7742 Great fight, though. And I loved the pottery joke.

[@Vlazeca]

Jeez, people weren’t kidding about the part where Cloud falls on the rocks.

[@OidBuddy]

Ah I thought I would go ahead and spoil myself and see who would win. But you actually made me think link actually won.

[@yachi2274]

Cloud: Good game Link: Good game *They handshaked*

[@toadboy4]

Cloud wouldn’t forgive Link for breaking Aerith’s pots

[@yachi2274]

@@toadboy4 Cloud: I still won't Forgive you for breaking Aerith's pots. Link: I know.

[@toadboy4]

@@yachi2274 *Cloud would sigh* Cloud: alright, you owe me 5,000 Gil for those pots

[@MrLachek]

Link: Rolls like normal person. DB: He is moving 1/10 light speed!

[@lightningandodinify]

The speed reasoning in death battles are generally abysmal and ridiculous. The same goes for their inferences on physical strength from feats that seem extreme but are clearly overthought compared to what the creators intended.

[@Vexiratus]

@@lightningandodinify Yep. If a character gets hit by a trillion ton asteroid accelerting super slowly, they'll say he's hit with 1000 quadrillon tons of tnt

[@ItachiYGO]

generally in most VS communities creator intent isn't really taken into account. you just analyze the feats in a void if creator intent was taken into account, characters like Saitama would be literally invincible. since the whole point of the character is to never lose.

[@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache]

@@ItachiYGO I wish some people would considered the creator intent, when it comes to VS debates, but that's just me.

[@YAYCONFORMITY]

His roll also probably has the force of 9 gagillion tons of tnt.

[@haden636]

I love how they added links addiction to Pottery smashing

[@alphtheor.879]

ok, hear me out, the effect of stasis comes from the shika slate, so if the shika slate is time stopped then its duration timer can't tick down, and since stasis stops a combatant and everything on them the time stop materia also can't tick down so...they could both be frozen in that temple for all time.

[@jakeknight1995]

Oh no

[@LikuteiAmarim]

Accurate.

[@PrincessAmanda2290]

but one is magic and the other is tech

[@r3gret2079]

Surely Cloud's MP would run out since the spell would be a continuous cast... Right?

[@Xerxez_Official]

@@PrincessAmanda2290 bruh if they're frozen tech won't matter if it's frozen too lmao

[@holty1314]

Question: How does Cloud destroy the tri force of courage? I Cloud could dodge it or possibly tanking the hit, but destroying the power of a goddess?

[@ICTON123]

It *has* actually been destroyed before in WindWaker and A Link Between Worlds. And considering Cloud potentially netting power beyond even what the full TriForce has shown (Knights of the Round's summon attack is described as destroying the dimension they're in with King Arthur's sword swing in databooks, SuperNova destroys dimensional space in Dissidia, and potential scaling to Multiversal feats from characters such as NeoExdeath via FF: Tactics and Dissidia), he should be powerful enough to shatter the goddesses' gift. But aside from that, the animation is mainly just for entertainment, that was just there cause it would be cool. The TriForce of Courage hasn't really ever been shown to be capable of defending or harming things for Link. In fact, it rarely does... anything really, it mostly just sits there until a very specific event happens.

[@dabluepittoo-aqua4213]

Cloud: "Finally...I beat the guy who beat me." Mario: "Not bad kid."

[@JugularJohn]

Mario: So who’d you beat? Cloud: Link Mario: ….. damnit he was a good friend..

[@shanewalters2565]

Oh, I get it, because Mario had a rematch with Sonic for the 100th episode, and now we got a rematch between Link and Cloud, all we need now is a rematch between Luigi and Tails

[@bruhm0ment6000]

You know the end is coming for the antagonist of FF7 since cloud won. Unless it's a superman situation where he wins twice but that's like 0 percent chance of happening.

[@red5158077]

@@shanewalters2565 No

[@theonewhodrums_]

Why have a rematch between these two? I find it odd

[@DergSol]

You forgot Link’s greatest move: When he’s crouching, you can make him do the Duck Walk. Cool, huh?

[@pesciisthebestcharacter5100]

*I bet that's worth a kiss, huh?*

[@-.DIO.-]

They forgot the Lamp Oil, Rope, and Bombs he had which all cost rupees

[@warlordofvideogameglitches]

@@-.DIO.- including the armor that is powered by rupees

[@pesciisthebestcharacter5100]

@@-.DIO.- he didn't have enough rupees and Morshu can't give credit, so he had to come back when he was a little *mmm* richer. That's why he was breaking pots during the fight.

[@Sly_Maverick_31]

CD-I Mario: No?

[@ch1ppy755]

There was no way Cloud could have won if he didn’t save the pot, who repaid him with OP powers.

[@TheShadowDragon777]

omg. you rite. All the spirits of previous pots granted cloud the power of pot to smite link for his sins.

[@synical_gaming3863]

@@TheShadowDragon777 lmao!

[@BJGvideos]

@@TheShadowDragon777 I mean that's basically the design standpoint from Guardians.

[@kgmotte2363]

Are you suggesting that Cloud Got the Enemy Skill from Tonberries for "Everybody's Grudge" but he Used it specifically for Pots?!!?! That's Diabolical against Link! Like Bringing armor of Pure Kryptonite and a Minigun with infinite Krytponite Ammo Against Superman! How did he KNOW!?!!?

[@dannyyoroi1955]

Cloud strife *the pottery savior*

[@theallmightyfish3027]

With tears of the kingdom now out I can’t help but imagine cloud trying his best to keep up with the raw power of JEREMY

[@BlaxkSun]

Rooster Teeth: How much of the Budget do you need Boomstick: ...All of them

[@Killua_Morales]

A guy that barely talks vs an elf guy that doesn't talk.

[@Shape4995]

One thing I hate about death battle is the way they do speed feats. They always take little quirks of animation or one off dumb un thought out remarks and act like they’re consistent abilities. I mean the so called “laser” Link dodges is not moving the speed of light, assuming hyrule physics even work the same as ours, and It sure as hell doesn’t seem like link is moving 1/10 the speed of light in the dodge animation. Compare his speed to an in game arrow and we’ll probably get a thousand paradoxes with arrows all moving 1/20 the speed of light or some nonsense. I feel like there is a certain amount we can’t take literally with stuff like this. (Edit also I don’t even think it’d be possible to dodge a laser after it was fired, since you’d have to know it was coming, which relies on sight, and lasers move just as fast as any light which could reach your eye, unless link has magic clairvoyance or something)

[@mateokjitagonzalez4773]

True!

[@Tkokat]

I have to agree on this one

[@lilgoop]

That and they correlate travel speed as fight speed which I firmly believe needs to be in it's own division just as reaction speed is. Just because Bahamut flew ftl doesn't mean he fights ftl

[@cameronbowers9347]

I do agree with you but......in the first cloud vs link......they ignored so many feats for cloud it got ridiculous so I'm just glad they're improving as they do it. Keep commenting kindly like ylu are and I'm sure they'll take notice of it.

[@CyrusKnight7]

I feel to properly explain the laser would be more like a light saber or something. The time it takes for the laser to connect with the ground is light speed. The time it takes to move the laser to attack link however is not light speed. It's the speed or whatever a mechanical eye ball can move.

[@Elfyre]

Years late but... quote from Advent Children "I said I'd live both our lives"

[@malibutaa]

Easy to make that promise…

[@Fubukio]

Cloud won because he had something to protect... In this case, Cloud protected pots from LINK THE POT DESTROYER!

[@Angelalex242]

Link destroyed pots /in Aerith's Church./ Don't mess with Aerith's stuff.

[@lynxfresh5214]

Without context it sounds like Link is a stoner hunter...

[@thecursed_1lordofcats738]

He probably is.

[@phatdookie4207]

I destroy "pot" too.

[@KenDaKingArrives]

@Joseph Williams His dead love that he loved more than he did Tifa, to be exact.

[@thespicyelixr6021]

"Looks great in a dress" Cloud: Nailed it, I know. Thank you. Moving on.

[@justarandomguy54]

That was a great line.

[@thespicyelixr6021]

@@justarandomguy54 Nailed it, I know moving on.

[@jonathanflanagan1504]

You forgot the thank you. EDIT: Nice.

[@thespicyelixr6021]

@@jonathanflanagan1504 Like I give a crap

[@LEAF265]

I get the reference!!!

[@Articabyss64]

Real reason Link lost was because he was fighting with his right hand

[@pol024524]

:O

[@brownie8029]

Now I see why he won the first fight.

[@oonkymppa5923]

He was going easy because Cloud needed to have a chance

[@Fine793meadow]

@@oonkymppa5923 No he did not,if he uses the dark god mask than it proves he is going all out

[@oonkymppa5923]

@@Fine793meadow ever tried using your non-dominant hand? 100x less effective

[@js-pg2hc]

Love the remix of Song of storms when Link reveals himself and summons the lightning.

[@sparrow420500]

I don't think it's necessarily fair to equate someone's base speed for running or flying to the speed of reflexes in combat. Usain Bolt could most likely outrun Bruce Lee no problem, but would he be able to block punches and kicks from Bruce? Very unlikely. They do this in almost every video and it always bothers me. There should be different statistics for movement speed vs reflex speed.

[@nahhhhhhhh271]

Dude if Bruce lee met someone that regularly go’s at the speed of light and survived w super nova and fought them he’d be dead you’d be dead

[@Tsuusetsu]

I have also noticed this. Has been quite irritating.

[@FumanyuX]

Usain Bolt doesn't know martial arts Cloud does.

[@ReikokuXTaifuu]

Yeah, I'm fine with Cloud winning but like... the logic and "calculations" in this one bother the hell out of me. Bahamut flying from planet to planet in seconds DOESN'T mean Cloud is capable of the same speeds. Every single time Cloud has fought some incarnation of Bahamut, it hasn't been moving anything close to that speed. Plus, when he was fighting Bahamut Sin, Bahamut was moving slow as hell, and Cloud FAILED to catch up to him. He only caught up because he was literally THROWN at Bahamut by the rest of his party members. If I can move at 10 times lightspeed, but then I fight someone at a normal human pace, it doesn't mean they can move 10 times lightspeed too. They did the same thing in Mickey vs. Yoda when saying that Roxas' heart travling across worlds means Mickey can do the same while fighting, which ISN'T even remotely accurate.

[@jayb8934]

I agree, but I think that the rationale is that if someone can move at supersonic or light speed levels, their reflexes have to be comparably fast or else they would be slamming into things. Basically, if you have a certainly level of super human movement speed, you have to have reflexes that scale to match it in order to use it. It doesn't hold true if dealing with realistic human movement speeds though. Usain Bold doesn't run that much faster than other humans that he needs super human reflexes to use his speed.

[@TheCayDawg]

Link lost cuz they didn't give him Z-Targeting

[@theyux1]

@ORLANDO JACK They allegedly dont allow outside help sometimes, and Z targeting was granted by the faries. Its why you could not z target ganadorf because he was to evil for the faeries.

[@McSquidification]

@@theyux1 This was always my problem with the previous match (animation). They went out of their way to say no outside help, but they let him Z target the omnislash.

[@Amaterasu-zl5yh]

So cloud won

[@aphato2770]

@@theyux1 I mean twilight princess link can z-target without a fairy. So can Botw Link. And Skyward sword link. And Windwaker link

[@TheCayDawg]

@@theyux1 that was only in Ocarina of Time/Majoras Mask. In the rest of the 3D games targeting is just a gameplay function.

[@MattSayYay]

I like how here, they actually show the time stop abilities countering each other, as oppose to Mario VS Sonic where it is only mentioned

[@MattSayYay]

@Xverine 3720 to 1 (That's an AVGN reference)

[@7-BIT]

Its highly unlikely and out of character for Sonic to use chaos control though

[@Drip_Sakuya]

Didn't they say in mario vs sonic 2018 that sonic has never actually used the time stop ability in the canon timeline they were basing evidence off of? I mean sure mario could've used the stopwatch but what are the chances sonic actually uses chaos control?

[@goalhornstudios8426]

@Spongegod - Ominpants all this is very true

[@grandmastoes4535]

@@Drip_Sakuya strange because he once did it with a fake emerald in SA2

[@Chili_Taker]

0:40 Start 0:45 Intro 1:09 Link 6:07 Cloud 12:05 Death Battle

[@darthvader473]

Fun Fact: You can do this in Smash Ultimate.

[@jaybomb5638]

That’s what I’m doing right now

[@jackel07-nerfgamingandmore95]

Huh... username checks out

[@letusdebatenow]

Fun fact: many of these moves cannot be replicated in smash ultimate

[@KochAnimates]

yes

[@Lanoman123]

And Sm4sh

[@pepperhead7589]

Plot twist: They are fighting because they argued who crossdressed better

[@epsyblue7714]

Gee thanks. Now I want to see them fighting in drag.

[@davidashton3671]

Personally Link in drag looks much better.

[@TheTrueHolyDarkness]

This.

[@darkfox1861]

@@davidashton3671 yep

[@KayLDay]

Omg yes

[@blooddown9433]

The guy who animated DEATH RACE is trying to get his job back by showing his chops in the opening scene.

[@pokemonracer5540]

DevilArtemis animated all of DEATH RACE, he is not involved with this animation at all.

[@blooddown9433]

@@pokemonracer5540 it was a joke, but thanks for the info

[@blooddown9433]

@@stevenkurtz2730 IT. WAS. A. JOKE.

[@thatoneguycisco5412]

@@pokemonracer5540 wait he was?

[@somerandomguy3835]

you can watch the battle on Kimimorra's Trap brothel channel rant video right now.

[@jellyhamsters6197]

Man link would be even more broken in this fight with his new arm having a couple new abilities like moving objects in general and fusing them together, fusing objects to his weapons including other weapons, ascend letting him go through vertical objects and appearing on top, and letting him be able to rewind objects

[@ikeillue8385]

So... what is Link being able to move objects around and fuse them together going to do against someone who is, you know.... supernova levels of power on a low ball? Nothing. The answer is absolutely nothing.

[@rogue_2k374]

Well to be fair, at most it would fusing things with the Master Sword of the Ancient Dagger to try and one shot Cloud, which as pointed out, Link just doesn’t have enough speed to be able to reliably kill Cloud. I love Link, and am still a little salty at how the fight turned out, but even I agree with the end result.

[@Beegrene]

@@rogue_2k374 Ancient Dagger doesn't one-shot bosses. I think Cloud would qualify as a boss fight for Link.

[@tumultuousv]

​@@ikeillue8385cloud isn't that OP bruh

[@tumultuousv]

​@@Beegrene lore wise it does

[@stealthycal5029]

Ah, the 8 year rematch. Cloud took it personally

[@travismurtland3257]

Yeah link wins the first one, gets even stronger while cloud chills at one consistent power level, and then loses after getting stronger. Something is inconsistent lol

[@azureblizzard721]

@@travismurtland3257 That inconsistency is the original episode being wrong lol.

[@TheYugikuza]

@@travismurtland3257 Its this series they suck at actually looking at the fact with every reincarnation for Link he should be way stronger then Cloud

[@ath477]

Bro this the second rematch after sonic vs mario

[@blueblaze8105]

@@TheYugikuza not really the problem it that that items that link uses are scattered around the ages so having all of them at once is unlikely. And in the first one they didn't give Cloud surviving the supernova,limited Cloud to only fire and lightning materia when he can use all of them. And for as much as people like to point Naryu's love with ganondorf can still hurt link. Magic armor which wouldn't protect against the buster or fusion swords or Materia given how much more potent then most magic in Zelda. But don't consider Clouds summons. And giving Majora universe scaling which is hypothetical at best even so link didn't survive it. But yes the consistency is horrible when it comes to this series sometimes.

[@MisterRorschach90]

The battle that almost ever 90s kid argued about at school.

[@therealfran1149]

*Sonic vs Mario would like to speak with you*

[@jimbo-el8lf]

@@therealfran1149 poor mario

[@khadirafarah1314]

Pokémon vs Digimon?

[@kxg9000]

Doncha mean late 90s to early 2000s individuals whomst'd've hit puberty and are still in school

[@thecharmingone3931]

Hello, Goku vs. Superman?

[@Sorenthaz]

First deathbattle: Sure Cloud is strong, but he has no way to keep up with Link's arsenal. Second deathbattle: Sure Link has a huge arsenal, but there's no way he can keep up with Cloud's speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed.

[@iguanaboi3921]

I'm noticing a trend among the rematches. The loser of the first match wins the rematch due to the inverse of what caused them to lose the first time. I.E Mario lost to Sonic because he couldn't counter his speed, but in the rematch, he beat Sonic because speed was his only advantage

[@nicholasblessing4457]

@@iguanaboi3921 Wait they changed the outcome of the rematch for Mario vs. Sonic too? That was the only one I skipped because I assumed they were doing the same thing they did with Samus vs Boba?

[@FLCLHarukoHaruhara]

Fukkin right? I'll stick to DBS1 Link vs Cloud

[@youtubestuff683]

@@FLCLHarukoHaruhara I like both characters kinda equally. I feel that either one had the potential to win this fight so the fact that they both have a win is fine by me. But the Mario vdms Sonic rematch kinda sucked, because as far as I remember they didn't bring up the fact that Sonic can (and this is still canon in the comics I believe) run faster then time.

[@FLCLHarukoHaruhara]

@@youtubestuff683 I'm just being a fanboy. Don't mind me. :P

[@mdansbyjr]

A little disappointed that Cloud didn't take more advantage of summon materia, but otherwise one of your more epic Death Battles! Nice finish! Totally the finish that would happen!

[@LightSoul-8]

Pot: "Oh no, he's killed my entire family, and I'm next!" Cloud: "Your savior has arrived." Link: "You W H A T ?"

[@ReeVoque]

😂

[@CorndogCrusader94]

This was nothing short of an open love letter to fans of both series as well as a cinematic masterpiece. Visually stunning and absolutely brilliant. Easily one of my favorite fights in the entire series. Well done, Death Battle.

[@justarandomguy54]

Yeah, great fight. Got chills.

[@The_Kind_Gamerz]

If you haven't seen the first Link vs Cloud (2012) DB, it's worth a watch! Older animations, but still great!

[@davidcottle3284]

Could have saved time and just thrown a chicken at link. They tend to wreak him.

[@knil727]

They never account for obvious weaknesses like that lol. Cloud only has 3 variations to contend with- remake, original, and kingdom hearts. Like has about 10 or so. Which makes it more complicated. Although most of them have had to fight and run from chickens lol.

[@FLYYADIGG24]

Does chicken are devil spawns

[@kevinjanine6061]

Finally the rematch we were waiting for

[@minombreesreal7296]

Ganondorf: *Uses te Triforce (a divine and holy power) to protect him self from the divine nucke of Dracula and dies any way. * Link: "Let me show you how its done" Link: * does the same and dies* Ganondorf: You were sayi- Link: SHUT UP

[@jigokuokami6586]

It's triforce

[@lightningandodinify]

Makes less sense in this case. It's just for symbolism here to show off Cloud's strength.

[@TheAustin1]

Zelda: bruh both of you are idiots wait until I show up and win

[@minombreesreal7296]

@@TheAustin1 peach in he'r last match: yea sure haha

[@thedarkoracle4807]

Anyone else wish there was a fight between the dark beast Ganon and fierce deity Link?

[@ColMcWillis]

Lol, speed and acceleration are different. Bahamut could travel the distance in 12 seconds but you need to take into account acceleration and deceleration at the target and not just assume an average speed. This equates to a higher top speed but potentially lower initial speed. If link could get to a fraction the speed of light in the blink of an eye or faster there's a chance he is momentarily faster as I don't see Bahamut using that kind of speed against Cloud in battle. All that said, I don't think Link was moving that fast, just evading the tracking and not the beam of light itself

[@joshuaarnett762]

The animation seems to show that Link is only beginning to move after the beam fires, so he would have to move at fractional light speed to dodge. Also, yeah. Travel speed is NOT combat speed, and Bahamut is clearly not moving at top speed at all times.

[@dwylie83]

Ok it's 1200x the speed of light so cut it down 90 percent and it's still over the speed of light

[@ColMcWillis]

@@dwylie83 just because Bahamut may have been able to travel in a linear direction at that speed doesn't mean they can maneuver at that speed. You usually don't move at full sprinting speed when moving in close quarters combat.

[@goldenboy2740]

@@dwylie83 If Mikey Tyson fought Usain Bolt and wins does that make Mike the same speed of Bolt? This feat is ridiculous. Link is also shown parrying lasers in botw...which are the speed of light. It shouldn't be about "wHoSe fAsTeR!?" But rather who has a better reaction time. Not saying link would win, but high balling Clouds speed feat that high is absolutely laughable.

[@neverknown2054]

i love how link just straight up stopped fighting so he could break pottery

[@novacorponline]

If you pay attention, you'll notice that the "collecting a heart" sound plays during that part too; the pots aren't just decoration he arbitrarily hates, they are functioning as item drops for him.

[@neverknown2054]

Admittedly, i didn’t notice the sound. I just wanted to go with the meme that he hates ceramics

[@eliazararevalo6924]

Gotta get them rupe rupe’s

[@jerrysdump4723]

That boy sure is a pothead.

[@PedroCampos-r1j]

Rob Rob Rob Eucmiltea.

[@afterglow-podcast]

I gotta point out Link is a DIFFERENT Link in almost each game, which means Cloud won against not just one Link, but ALL versions of Link in this battle

[@norrecvizharan1177]

Something which he arguably shouldn't have been able to do, considering his stated speed feat just simply flying through space and not combat related, whereas Link can stop time on a whim.

[@user-ky4li6rz7m]

honestly fight shouldn't have gone that way, they left A LOT of stuff out of Link's arsenal which is fair, its hard to remember everything, but nonetheless it was a very cool fight.