Deathstalker Rogue Hero Talents Are Here! The Final Rogue Hero Spec In War Within Alpha!

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@yuzuade2645 8 ай бұрын

DK’s running round on horseback, mages got a literal bomb phoenix, warlocks summoning raid bosses-and we get some dainty passives lmao

@wilfredoretamalm 8 ай бұрын

To be fair, a good rogue is one you never see coming. There should be a way to properly mix good gameplay with the idea of someone who comes, kills you and goes.

@darthraider7935 8 ай бұрын

@@wilfredoretamalm agreed... rogues aren't supposed to be flashy or stand out...

@exidiumyt5137 8 ай бұрын

@@darthraider7935 don’t kid yourself this has nothing to do with why blizzard doesn’t give rogues cool abilities lol. It’s the least played class and has been an after thought class for expansions. Why would they give rogue any more than they have now few eyes fixated on them?

@leloo12n1 8 ай бұрын

there are waaaaay too many buttons to pres already..I prefer this

@Nhouyengah 8 ай бұрын

Let's say death stalker summons shadow rogues that use some kind of vault and finisher ability, they get some other kind of on theme ability instead of passives and the hero talents would be flavorfull and look cool. It took me 30 secs to come up with some idea and it already looks better than the tree while being on theme.

@Prawnsly 8 ай бұрын

Could be accurately summarised as "Deal more damage when you carry on with your normal rotation." What does any of this have to do with being a deathstalker?

@brendanhill5948 8 ай бұрын

I wish slice and dice was just baked into envenom or removed. It’s such a lame button that’s just kept up permanently through talents.

@Chiz558 7 ай бұрын

This would be the dream

@malthus0016 8 ай бұрын

where are the animations? the class fantasy? compare this with what mages and deathknights got and....yeah it feels like all 3 trees are just passive increases. I'm all for simplifying rogue rotations but this feels....lazy.

@JulianJuanli 8 ай бұрын

yeah... I wished there was a shadowy, voidy talent for subtlety rogue

@lkn3526 8 ай бұрын

Rogues have the most class fantasy in the entire game. How much more do you want?

@Tyelkormoko 8 ай бұрын

agreed, not very thematic, or exciting. I guess it sucks to not be a Mage, DK, or Shadow Priest next expansion

@Felixxfb 8 ай бұрын

Some effects in the alpha are placeholder, blizzard has said so a couple weeks ago.

@ericconrad8854 8 ай бұрын

@@lkn3526 you have to be fucking kidding.

@visionofgrey 4 ай бұрын

Sorry for the noob question but what is that aoe red spinning move in the video? It’s when right after you did shuriken storm. Thats not black powder is it?

@Seph.ackerman 8 ай бұрын

I am most disappointed of rogue hero talents overall, there was so much potential and they all feel strange.

@Bryan-kq6xg 8 ай бұрын

Agreed

@Pomme95 8 ай бұрын

As feral druid I feel your disappointment

@Urgot-BlackPill 8 ай бұрын

Im a hunter, wanna trade?

@Bryan-kq6xg 8 ай бұрын

@@Urgot-BlackPill oh yeah the hunter is terrible, main hunter here

@Akihito_Kanbara 8 ай бұрын

@@Bryan-kq6xg Sentinel is cool af. I have a feeling you people wouldn't be happy no matter what. You all just enjoy hating on everything.

@SbsGrinth 8 ай бұрын

Darkest night isn't that big of a hill to climb. Could just add that if the target dies with a stack of mark you get free ambush outside of stealth. EZPZ.

@richiepipes8960 8 ай бұрын

Looks amazing for sub, but sins only weakness is when we cant restealth which this further magnifies

@NicktheGatorfin95 8 ай бұрын

2 charges of vanish but also the bottom node of the Hero Talent makes it so that when you use the final Deathstalker's Mark, your next Envenom reapplies 3 stacks, so you'll always have a rolling stack of Marks and if you have a charge of vanish up, you can vanish to reapply the mark if they fall off for whatever reason or you need to switch targets

@metam8564 8 ай бұрын

@@NicktheGatorfin95 yeah and vanish is a fixed part of the core dmg rotation, plz inform yourself before posting "tipps" like these. The deathstalker as a hole is garbage and barly functional as it is right now.

@BakkerJoopNL 7 ай бұрын

Blizz: "Ambush is the most useless skill, let's make an entire hero class evolve around it!"

@Ghandii 8 ай бұрын

they are really missing a bunch of opportunities to finally add more aoe to rogues which we've never have gotten and good reliable aoe ever and now they are still going with the basically almost all single target

@anthonytgameaddict 8 ай бұрын

The tree is garbage and full or boring passive damage that doesn't even flow very well.. scrap it and give is interesting abilities and new animations not passive bull shit... Lock and mage have so much more creative thinking behind them.

@dustson 8 ай бұрын

the idea if plague dmg is really nice. the implemention is not so nice. sounds like another rework in s2. either you have forgotten about the assa funnel or you didnt play much assa in s3 and s4. caustic splatter is so good for funnel. do you only have to ambush or be in stealth? there is the talent blindside which lets you get random procs of ambush. but they need to make it that you cant refresh it on the same target. so you always can use those 3 stacks of the mark.

@andrewshandle 8 ай бұрын

So while I do appreciate you showing the problems with the HT's in real content like Delves to show potential issues, it would have been nice to see a full ST and AOE rotation to show off the abilities, like the capstone, because I don't think you really showed it off fully.

@jayb1412 7 ай бұрын

I feel these hero talents are there for players who dont want additional complexity to their spec and im all for it.

@YuriGualeri-t5q 7 ай бұрын

was thinking to come back on wow afther dropping in Shadowland but the fact rogue is totally shit according to combato LOg to run High Mithyc + insane complex rotation hold me back. maybe this hero talent will change the way to play and give rogue the spot he deserve

@Daneeul97 8 ай бұрын

i think Rogue Dev should be replaced 😒

@alancode2147 8 ай бұрын

And the hunter dev...oh wait...hunters don't have one, but still, replace whoever they thought about hiring for hunters and the rogue dev.

@adrianlima2776 8 ай бұрын

i mean the talent trees are pretty well done, all hero specs tho.. so underwhelming all three of them

@michigancane4883 7 ай бұрын

The whole deathstalkers mark thing with ambush as an opener seems awful to me don’t Rouges almost always open with garrote with all the talents that buff it with 50 percent more damage out of stealth 3 combo points to start with and garrote spreading to 3 close targets kind of a waste

@wassupsmokey 8 ай бұрын

correct me if im wrong, but it would literally he impossible to use deathstalker in a raid? on a boss fight u can apply it once as soon as it starts, and once its gone then thats it?? if so thats a insanely stupid hero talent

@NicktheGatorfin95 8 ай бұрын

You can vanish to reapply them (you get 2 charges if you take the bottom right class talent option) or shadow dance for Sub, but also the bottom Hero Talent node basically makes your eviscerate or envenom reapply it after it uses the last charge, so it seems like it'll always be getting reapplied, while having vanish/shadow dance as a backup way to apply them if it falls off or you change targets.

@demidaemon1982 8 ай бұрын

I think instead of making it harder for sub to reapply marks they should make it easier for assassination to reapply them without having to reenter stealth. Otherwise this set of talents is kind of DOA for assassination while synergizing perfectly with sub.

@daniiltolmachev4630 8 ай бұрын

You guys are expecting too much from Blizzard. It's a small indie company after all

@Adrian-dt2oz 8 ай бұрын

Am I the only one who saw the ridiculous amount of damage on 0:46? 99M?? Blizzard WTF!!

@hesfrombarcelona 7 ай бұрын

Fatebound = Anton Chigurh from "No Country for Old Men"

@5H4D3 7 ай бұрын

If the ability can only be applied while in stealth, why limit it to Ambush? I don't want to ambush as assa, I want to garrote, I want to riddle my target with 1.000.000 dots and watch them panic and die suffocating. Leave ambushing for Sub rogues.

@TheMikeJones89 8 ай бұрын

Yoo sup Dal, this looked cool when you did it quick on live, look forward to seeing you play it more to see how it fully looks. Btw, know your working hella hard my guy, just was wondering when you were dropping the Hunter hero talents video? Appreciate all that you do my guy 🎉🎉💯💯

@shadowsmoke2640 8 ай бұрын

isnt there on more called trickster

@msscott22 8 ай бұрын

It already came out. It was lame and based around using feint offensively.

@Mist3r1o 8 ай бұрын

I"ve been waiting so desperately for this hero tree to be revealed and it turns out to be utter garbage. Great :)

@OjiVince 7 ай бұрын

Okay. Are those Hero Talents just like... normal talents? Is it just me?

@Bryan-kq6xg 8 ай бұрын

disappointed as hunters, only passives withouth animation, i reall yhope they fix this.

@ImFantin 8 ай бұрын

I don’t hate it. But isn’t this how sub used to play in BFA? FoN, Finisher on the main target. Kinda boring :/

@Wapa915 8 ай бұрын

I feel like deathstalkers mark should be applied by Garrote for assassination instead of ambush.

@Sly_404 8 ай бұрын

Since you spread Garrote in AOE this would actually be worse.

@TE-eq1dc 8 ай бұрын

Damn this one isn’t for outlaw?? I was hoping to boost my single target with this!!! Aoe is fine at the moment. Trickster and fatebound look like dogshit to me I was hoping this one would be it and it was but not for outlaw what a crock of shit. Just give me combat rogue back and screw the whole outlaw bull crap

@kaizen5107 7 ай бұрын

been playing combat rogue for 15 years and this comment is incredibly based.

@kierjackson1000 8 ай бұрын

Rogues continually get shafted as per usual. I get it, it's a PvP primary class that is impossible to balance, they're either beyond broken or completely gutted. But as far as a "hero class" they could've done so much more. Planting bombs in pockets while stealthed as a non break stealth ability. Some sort of saboteur would've been so cool. This is all just vanilla base rogue with "meh" passives.

@kevin4b03044 8 ай бұрын

These devs HAVE to be sleepy. This the most boring shit ever. 😂

@Wes-xk6hl 8 ай бұрын

Funny that this vid has the same amount of views as the others but it seems like rouge players have much more to say

@Hafenadler 8 ай бұрын

Overall what I’m seeing I’m quite disappointed with rogues hero specs. Wanted to play rogue again in war within but I may play warrior instead. Atleast I can tank then and mountain thane looks hella cool.