DEBATE! NIGHTWING vs REDHOOD

[@calvinm7881]

Nightwing is the most skilled of the Robins. He's the closest to being Batman or even surpassing him. He's literally the one capable of being Batman. However, if any of the Robin's stood a chance, it would be Jason because he could've been the most skillful if he wasn't so impulsive and emotional.

[@joshuahecht6866]

His Mother Died of an Illness His Father is Murdered by Killer Croc and Two Face And spent many years doing criminal activity on the street. He died at the hands of The Joker in a Shocking Plot Twist. It devastated Batman and scarred him for the rest of his life. Jason Todd/The Second Robin aka The Red Hood becomes Batman’s Greatest Failure The One He Failed To Protect because he didn’t take good care of Jason enough.

[@makeouthaven]

Calvin M well Red Hood has beaten Batman the most out of all of the Robins.

[@shaggydee91]

@@makeouthaven explain urself

[@SekyAbuelas]

Red Hood will win. For people saying that Nightwing knows the fighting techniques of the league of Assassins or the League of Shadows, Batman did not train with the league of assassins. The closets he had to training with the league of assassins was when he broke his back in even Knightfall by Bane, then Lady Shiva trained him to help recuperate and beat Jean Paul out of the mantel of Batman. Dick Grayson was already NightWing when this happened so his training dies not have the techniques of the league of Assassins. Red Hood is also said to one of the best fighters of DC. Damien Wayne said this and we all know Damien was created to become the perfect assassin and with some continuities his genes have been altered to be the perfect assassin. We also know Damien wants to be the member of the BatFamily and is really arrogant saying he can beat anyone or almost anyone. He HATES admitting if someone is better than him and HATES even more admitting if someone is a great fighter. In Event Leviathan Issue 3 he says quote on quote “Jason Todd IS one of the great master fighters of all time”. In Event Leviathan Issue 3 he also beat in a fight by himself Batman, Robin (Damien Wayne), Green Arrow, Plastic Man, Man Hunter( Batman vouched for her) , and The Question. You might say this is a bad example albeit Green Arrow said quote on quote “He kicked our asses”. Even Batman in that issue also said it was fair and they lost, and we all know Batman hates and not hates Jason and is never willing to say directly that Jason is a good fighter or son, and Batman is arrogant yet Humble and admitted it was fair. He also sneaked up on DeathStroke which is incredible. DeathStroke admitted he was dangerous so if DeathStroke said it you have to believe it. Not only was he trained by Batman but also The league of Assassins (personally trained by Talia Al Ghul), Cheshire, Lady Shiva, Bronze Tiger, All Caste, and many more people during is era of Red Hood lost Days. He also has beaten Ras Al Ghul. When he battled Ras Al Ghul he also says people higly underestimate him. He also beat Lady Shiva and he admitted he was still getting his memory so he was Rusty so he had to poison her, paralyzing her for some time.

[@lukeronalds5963]

Calvin M Redhood has master firearms and fighting technique and hes more aggressive than nightwing And he has more gadgets Red hood would whip Nightwing not as badly as Damien in outlaws though but still Red hood could counter all night wings acrobatics and agility and redhood knows lethal fightings style and Batman’s and Nightwing only knows Batman fighting styles redhood would win

[@Piard]

I think nightwing is a better strategist in my opinion because if you are a defensive fighter you probably gonna use your pieces more carefully.

[@SekyAbuelas]

Red Hood will win. For people saying that Nightwing knows the fighting techniques of the league of Assassins or the League of Shadows, Batman did not train with the league of assassins. The closets he had to training with the league of assassins was when he broke his back in even Knightfall by Bane, then Lady Shiva trained him to help recuperate and beat Jean Paul out of the mantel of Batman. Dick Grayson was already NightWing when this happened so his training dies not have the techniques of the league of Assassins. Red Hood is also said to one of the best fighters of DC. Damien Wayne said this and we all know Damien was created to become the perfect assassin and with some continuities his genes have been altered to be the perfect assassin. We also know Damien wants to be the member of the BatFamily and is really arrogant saying he can beat anyone or almost anyone. He HATES admitting if someone is better than him and HATES even more admitting if someone is a great fighter. In Event Leviathan Issue 3 he says quote on quote “Jason Todd IS one of the great master fighters of all time”. In Event Leviathan Issue 3 he also beat in a fight by himself Batman, Robin (Damien Wayne), Green Arrow, Plastic Man, Man Hunter( Batman vouched for her) , and The Question. You might say this is a bad example albeit Green Arrow said quote on quote “He kicked our asses”. Even Batman in that issue also said it was fair and they lost, and we all know Batman hates and not hates Jason and is never willing to say directly that Jason is a good fighter or son, and Batman is arrogant yet Humble and admitted it was fair. He also sneaked up on DeathStroke which is incredible. DeathStroke admitted he was dangerous so if DeathStroke said it you have to believe it. Not only was he trained by Batman but also The league of Assassins (personally trained by Talia Al Ghul), Cheshire, Lady Shiva, Bronze Tiger, All Caste, and many more people during is era of Red Hood lost Days. He also has beaten Ras Al Ghul. When he battled Ras Al Ghul he also says people higly underestimate him. He also beat Lady Shiva and he admitted he was still getting his memory so he was Rusty so he had to poison her, paralyzing her for some time.

[@Piard]

@@SekyAbuelas that's good information but I didn't say nightwing would win I just think if it comes to strategy in a ring nightwing would probably be win but as a BJJ practitioner that's not everything.

[@ScottWaa]

Nightwing hands down. Redhood is predictable and irrational. Nightwing is so much more put together.

[@damianstarks3338]

Regardless I still like red hood.

[@chrisberatis2612]

I would have to go with Nightwing.

[@onwuchurubad]

Nightwing for sure. Trained with Batman longer than anyone

[@pawsoffmypie673]

I know Jason uses lethal force but he isn't about to shoot Dick. Dick has more combat expertise and skill imo. And even if Jason used his guns there have been a plethora of times he's relied on them too much and it's bit him in the booty, leaving him with a ton of "oh shit" moments when he's either out of ammo, his guns are removed from the fight or they just don't help in a certain situation.

[@dannybrown82]

Nightwing. Whenever Jason gets around the bat family, he gets too emotional. Dick would capitalize on one Jason's mistakes and subdue him.

[@diegopansini3152]

Why is this a debate? It's a no brainer, Nightwing is the best fighter Bruce has ever trained, he even beat Batman in hand to hand from time to time. Unfortunately, the animated movies hate Nightwing and make him get his arm broken in EVERY MOVIE. They don't do him justice at all, especially in that fight against Batman. Red Hood is the third best fighter out of all the Robins, second being Damian. Jason's skills is mostly used for killing, which requires less effort. Not to mention, he relies on fighting dirty, which is something Nightwing is familiar with while fighting bad guys and can easily adapt. That's like having Jason going up against a more agile Batman. Dick wins, that's it.

[@makeouthaven]

Diego Pansini Red Hood has beaten Batman more times then the rest of the Robins tho.

[@danielpatterson5189]

Good point but I think there has to be a guilt factor. Every time Batman fights Red Hood he would be reminded of his failure to protect him. That likely makes him hold back more against Jason than anyone else

[@diegopansini3152]

@@danielpatterson5189 Indeed

[@BestandGreatestperio]

Daniel Patterson nah he whoops Jason ass and kicked him out of Gotham. Jason knows Bruce we’ll though so he outsmarts him occasionally.

[@ccraft00]

I don’t think Jason is the third best fighter I’m pretty sure he’s second. He could whoop Tim if he wanted to and Tim has d sad horn he could handle Damian easily. At one point didn’t dick (as Batman) have to stop Tim because Tim got sick of Damian and was kicking his ass?

[@davemckinney6555]

Nightwing. How is this even a thing? We DO remember that red hood is Jason Todd, right? Nightwing is just better.

[@Rei_Tatekei]

Nightwing wins 8-2, but goes 3-7 against Batman.

[@benparrish672]

Does Jason Todd's enhanced strength and healing, post his resurrection, give him the edge over Grayson?

[@johnnymultitasking7689]

His enhanced strength post resurrection is temporary..it wears off soon.

[@rickyreed9754]

Nightwing, hands down.

[@timothyjacksondrake4454]

At the start of their lives Nightwing was training his body towards the peak of acrobat perfection. He was able to perform the quadruple flip at a young age. Red Hood on the other hand was learning street smarts( parkour brawling enviormental awareness). Training they both trained under Batman. Red Hood trained under a older and slightly more experienced batman however Nightwing continued to learn from Batman every once in a while after he became nightwing. Nightwing has also fought Cassandra Cain and Deathstroke to a standstill (Deathstroke usually wins). He also has been able to withstand telepathic attacks by shear willpower. Speaking of willpower this is an area Red Hood wins in. Red Hood was resurrected in a lazurus pit and then went on to train under some very evil people. All this was done while having a lot of anger and vengenace pent up inside him. He then went to Gotham and confronted batman (the man who failed him) all without falling into the murder happy state that Batman would if he ever let himself kill. All this is more impressive since the Lazurus pit is known to cause mental instability. All that being said Nightwing has been fighting people with guns and lethal tactics his whole career. Nightwing's age, experience, and acrobatic skill would win this fight 95% of the time.

[@davidcdun8896]

In Batman and Robin Eternal: "Mother" storyline, Orphan (Cassandra Cain) "said" once, Red Hood (Jason Todd) is the Brawn, Red Robin or Drake (Tim Drake) is the Brain, and Nightwing (Dick Grayson) is the Heart. Heart means Nightwing will put his family's (Bat family) safety first before his own life. Nightwing has been the leader for the Justice League, that takes BALLS. Red Hood might be physically stronger than Nightwing, but Nightwing has no fear. He plays chicken with Batman when they are swinging in the air, daring Batman to wait with using the grappling gun. First one to use the grappling gun is a chicken. So yes, Nightwing got BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG BALLS. Against Jason, there will be no fight, because Jason is family, from Nightwing's point of view.

[@MUISHAGGY572]

As a Red Hood fan I agree Nightwing wins because Jason is more of a "Punisher" type which involves a lot of shooting while Nightwing is more of the "Batman" type which involves more tactics and skills plus more intelligence plus he doesn't let emotions get in the way.

[@AndrewRobbins3344]

Nightwing., He’s the first Robin.

[@rubenmartinez2263]

Are u dumb red hood was the first Batman then he wants to kill Batman bc joker almost killed him and Batman didn’t save him that’s how red good changes to red hood

[@xxkai_xx2216]

@@rubenmartinez2263 nightwing was Jason was the second

[@xxkai_xx2216]

@@rubenmartinez2263 and are you dumb cause red hood isn't Batman

[@KindaAlwaysBluish]

Nightwing wins. Period.

[@kumalala3130]

That's a lie,if you read the comics you would actually know red hood has best nightwing numerous times in so many different ways with little of his skills,compare nightwings feats to red hoods,your "question" will be answered and the answer would be red hood.

[@KindaAlwaysBluish]

@@kumalala3130 i do read the comics. and I will agree jason will give him a fight alright, but everytime it looked like hood had the edge in a fight it was story driven/the fight being interrupted in one way or another. Dick has more combat skill, he's faster, more agile and is overall a smarter fighter.

[@Ex1stingRn]

​@@KindaAlwaysBluish jason wont hold back dick will because their family

[@JonathanMichael]

I'd like to see Captain America and Winter Soldier vs Nightwing and Red Hood

[@johnnymultitasking7689]

Nightwing is a casual bullet timer lol...been dodging bullets since early teens... Nightwing is more unpredictable in terms of fighting... Nightwing is more experienced n has been doing this longer... Nightwing has beaten talon, joker, deathstroke before... Even impressed lady shiva..not to mention he was injured while fighting her... Pretty sure nightwing is stronger than Jason too...

[@tristen-w1p]

Nightwing wins, Red Hood is hard for him to beat, but he's superior

[@lukeronalds5963]

TristenStudios Redhood has master firearms and fighting technique and hes more aggressive than nightwing And he has more gadgets Red hood would whip Nightwing not as badly as Damien in outlaws though but still Red hood could counter all night wings acrobatics and agility and redhood knows lethal fightings style and Batman’s and Nightwing only knows Batman fighting styles redhood would win

[@jacobjackson2275]

Nightwing would win this one

[@xxdmoneyxx9778]

I love both these super heroes but Nightwing was the original Robin but Jason died and became redhood. But I think Nightwing will win

[@NexGenStriker]

Nightwing for the win. He's always depicted as the strongest Robin. Honestly think he could beat Deathstroke as well and even Batman on a good day.

[@guywhosman]

Nightwing won't beat Batman

[@jeffreygao3956]

Grayson's got this. He's older and a bit quicker. Also, he got to be Batman. PS I'd like to see these battles: Ned Stark vs Boromir Thor vs Captain Marvel(DC)(or maybe Zapdos) Kratos vs Saber(Fate/Stay Night) Link vs Sophitia Alexandra Dr. Doom vs Lex Luthor Chernabog vs Surtur Zorro vs Gaston

[@victorsrur134]

Nightwing has more experience than jason, his kali sticks and acrobat skills would be a lot effective against red hood pistols

[@iuk3c949]

Nightwing he trained with Batman years longer than red hood he also had massive amounts of rage that nightwing can use to his advantage. But red hood would give nightwing one of the hardest fights ever. I just think the experience of nightwing would out match red hood. Also you said red hood was trained by the league of assassins so he would fight better out of the fact he would want to kill, but Batman was also trained by them and he trained Grayson.

[@scoobydoo4093]

@Outlaw By Nature Not true, Dick and Tim went on a journey Bruce similar to how he was trained, so bound to have met other master's along the way.

[@scoobydoo4093]

Outlaw By Nature jason was an enemy/maybe presumed. Dead when Tim and Dick went training with Bruce.

[@SekyAbuelas]

Batman did not train with the league of assassins. The closets he had to training with the league of assassins was when he broke his back in even Knightfall by Bane, then Lady Shiva trained him to help recuperate. Dick Grayson was already NightWing when this happened.

[@SekyAbuelas]

Red Hood will win. For people saying that Nightwing knows the fighting techniques of the league of Assassins or the League of Shadows, Batman did not train with the league of assassins. The closets he had to training with the league of assassins was when he broke his back in even Knightfall by Bane, then Lady Shiva trained him to help recuperate and beat Jean Paul out of the mantel of Batman. Dick Grayson was already NightWing when this happened so his training dies not have the techniques of the league of Assassins. Red Hood is also said to one of the best fighters of DC. Damien Wayne said this and we all know Damien was created to become the perfect assassin and with some continuities his genes have been altered to be the perfect assassin. We also know Damien wants to be the member of the BatFamily and is really arrogant saying he can beat anyone or almost anyone. He HATES admitting if someone is better than him and HATES even more admitting if someone is a great fighter. In Event Leviathan Issue 3 he says quote on quote “Jason Todd IS one of the great master fighters of all time”. In Event Leviathan Issue 3 he also beat in a fight by himself Batman, Robin (Damien Wayne), Green Arrow, Plastic Man, Man Hunter( Batman vouched for her) , and The Question. You might say this is a bad example albeit Green Arrow said quote on quote “He kicked our asses”. Even Batman in that issue also said it was fair and they lost, and we all know Batman hates and not hates Jason and is never willing to say directly that Jason is a good fighter or son, and Batman is arrogant yet Humble and admitted it was fair. He also sneaked up on DeathStroke which is incredible. DeathStroke admitted he was dangerous so if DeathStroke said it you have to believe it. Not only was he trained by Batman but also The league of Assassins (personally trained by Talia Al Ghul), Cheshire, Lady Shiva, Bronze Tiger, All Caste, and many more people during is era of Red Hood lost Days. He also has beaten Ras Al Ghul. When he battled Ras Al Ghul he also says people higly underestimate him. He also beat Lady Shiva and he admitted he was still getting his memory so he was Rusty so he had to poison her, paralyzing her for some time.

[@scoobydoo4093]

@@SekyAbuelas It's really a toss-up, but Dick Grayson is the most talented physically and combat wise between the Robin's.

[@gundhamsl0ver]

Night wing because he’s older and has more experienced and he is calm unlike Jason who doesn’t really coordinate his moves

[@ethankillion786]

Nightwing

[@dantesanchez3052]

Nightwing, Red hood is strong but dick grayson is the successor to the Batman cape, he even got to occupy that position. adapting more to hand-to-hand combat without the need for weapons

[@adamquenano8563]

Nightwing wins. Better tech, Better martial artist, More experienced, better Written,Better mentality

[@adamquenano8563]

Outlaw By Nature Dick Grayson has been stated to be Batman’s equal. Nightwing has decades of experience fighting different Metahumans and martial artists.

[@crimsoncockatoo]

Nightwing in my heart always win.

[@TheMidnightPosts]

I can NOT stress this enough. When this crazy stuff is gone. GET. JENSEN. ACKLES. TO. BE. RED. HOOD. THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO SEE HIM REPRISE HIS ROLE!!!

[@emmyjr1231]

The thing is, Jason is ready to actually kill whereas Dick isn't that kinda guy. If we assume that both of them are trying to kill each other, then Dick wins due to being a superior martial artist, acrobat, detective and endurance.

[@ДмитрийАммосов-ъ5г]

Nightwing. Just Nightwing

[@bdillmore40]

Wow, this is a great debate! Huge Batman and Robin fan here. Nightwing happens to be my favorite superhero. Specifically Dick Grayson. Now I'm not just saying this because Nightwing is my favorite hero, but Nightwing would beat Red Hood. Nightwing has the edge over Red Hood with being an overall good fighter. Red Hood mainly uses guns or other weapons. Plus Dick has his night sticks too. Both are cool heroes, but I gotta go with Nightwing.

[@julianponce1854]

Dick Grayson could even give Bruce a good fight. Jason Todd is amazing but he couldnt beat Grayson.

[@samthebrolyranger5389]

Red Hood is my favorite anti hero but seeing how he was in the comics and movie he's too reckless but he did have a stand still between Batman, Red Hood has been trained by the league of assassin's making him deadly, Nightwing has gymnastics and Kombat training and he can handle himself against Deathstroke in Titans. It's difficult choice to pick but in Arkham Knight Jason knew where the weak point in Batman's armor was so he might know where Nightwing's weak spot is. I'm gonna go with Red Hood bc Jason seems to cover up more of the seems than Dick, Jason can go into a blind rage and he could take down Nightwing and he could know his armor weak point is and take his shot there

[@Nightwingriddle]

I think that blind rage is exactly why he would lose, part of why nightwing talks so much is to make people angry cause it makes them sloppy and reckless and that's when he makes his move, but he'd definitely have to earn it

[@drikendlp2382]

Nightwing would win because his acrobatic and discipline that he learned will outplay red hood

[@balancedwoah6374]

Night Wing and it ain’t even close. Night Wing definitely top 10 most skilled fighters in DC Comics. Dick Grayson would WIPE HIS ASS with Red Hood. In terms of a strategic stand point it’s pretty tuff not gonna lie. I feel like they’re really about the same. When Jason Todd came back he had a pretty good strategy against Batman... But overall I’d take Night wing any day. I have a question... Tim Drake or Jason Todd?

[@JoshAven]

Red Hood

[@emiryeni370]

Battle for the cowl read and come back

[@kieranhornett816]

I go for red hood. He has a lot of firearms ninja stars and his badass knife 🔪

[@shootingreal5945]

And nightwing hasn't deal with that and defeated highly trained armed enemies before.

[@benparrish672]

@@shootingreal5945 Not without hurting his shoulder

[@anixxfanxx6120]

I would say Nightwing

[@kovalfetterer8691]

Nightwing! Also, deathstroke vs taskmaster is a beat down that needs to happen!

[@Bit-Bit20]

I think nightwing because he can scan redhood’s weakness

[@LastRightsZero]

Screw WB and DC for changing Catwoman!!

[@josefeliciano1077]

Nightwing,with a hand tied to his back,would still win!

[@FlownXp]

Dick Grayson wins with a hand in the back.

[@charlieharcombe7585]

Definitely nightwing. Jason is awesome and all but nightwing is the superior fighter by far and has better tech

[@ArkhamDragon47]

Nightwing 100%

[@j_mack1996]

To me I would have to say Nightwing.

[@tierarkhamus2893]

Gonna say Red Hood. I’m a big Nightwing fan but I think Todd could put a cap in that unitard

[@fntmlrd79]

Nightwing. 'Nuff said.

[@christopherbutterworth7981]

Nightwing would win, he is smarter more experienced and had more training from the bat himself. However Red hood would give him a very tough fight as he has no limits to how far he would go and full of blood rage which would make him unpredictable. Either way it would be an awesome fight and I love both characters more than most in the dc universe

[@scottrussell876]

Hand to hand combat: Nightwing Weaponry and gadgets: Red Hood Strategist: Ehh that’s a grey area but I’m going with Nightwing because he trained under Batman longer so he has more experience than Red Hood I could be wrong though idk 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@calvinm7881]

Nightwing is also pretty much the next Batman

[@scottrussell876]

Calvin M facts

[@callumwilkinson2566]

Grayson all the way

[@andrem6550]

Redhood has no qualms, Nigthwing has

[@DOORKNOOB]

Bad argument. Nightwing regularly fights guys that have no qualms.

[@johnjones5626]

This is like Leonardo versus Rafael it will always be close however one will always have more skills than other and a better understanding of the other opponent and in this case nightwing is clearly it even though yes red hood does have editions training feats you have to understand that Nightwing has push his body far beyond the point where it’s almost equal or great than batman skills and technique

[@GreysDen]

Chuck Dixon's run was the definitive run for me too. Loved Tom King and Tim Seeley's run on Grayson too although people these days are a little sensitive about the series.

[@1997SScamaroNOS]

The punisher versus John wick

[@negmediapro]

Next topic - best Batman and best bruce Wayne all time .

[@limaunderground4298]

Nightwing ever

[@kingbreezy4481]

Nightwing is the most skilled. Half the reason Jason was such an annoyed robin was cuz he felt like he could never live up to dicks skill as robin and would never be good enough for batman. Dick has more gymnastic/acrobatic and combat skills sooo yeah

[@dccomicsfanboy1028]

Nightwing would definitely win because he had more training from the batman and he was the first robin and he took over the mantle of the batman.

[@omarkarim2280]

While I love Jason, Dick’s got him beat. I don’t think it’s a matter of training, because they’re both around the same (Batman pre-trains his Robins before letting them go out on the field) It’s a matter of mentality. Jason’s probably physically stronger, but Dick’s stronger mentally. Jason in a fight, with Dick especially, would lose his cool and get sloppy. Dick would take advantage of that and stop him, then probably give him a brotherly scolding. So, Nightwing, for sure

[@cookiemunster9952]

Nightwing would win

[@edwardryan6985]

It will be a awesome fight whoever wins more likely Nightwing will win. I will say it would be close.

[@nickleechcreative]

Grayson for THE WIN!!!

[@gungriffen]

Jason calls Dick things like his "Older brother" and "family". I don't think he would use lethal force against him and with that handicap Dick is better.

[@devon.johnson6013]

Nightwing the OG Robin

[@BiggiestayHoopin23]

These are the videos we need during these times. Love to see more of these.

[@musaqandil6405]

Just going to point out Tom King ranked the best fighters in the bat family, and 7 members out ranked red hood including nightwing. And honestly it’s the closest we’re going to get to a cannon list. 1 ORPHAN 2 NIGHTWING 3 BATMAN 4 ROBIN (Damian) 5 BATWOMAN 6 AZRAEL 7 HUNTRESS 8 RED HOOD

[@scoobydoo4093]

No way Batwoman is a better fighter than red hood..

[@scoobydoo4093]

or Huntress

[@RealCoolGuy]

The answer is Tim Drake.

[@StarrySentinel]

Drakes a bitch too

[@cloverii3548]

Drake will lose because he had at combat

[@SiriuslyBlack7]

Even though Red Hood is armed and ready to kill...Dick Grayson has been trained to handle potential killers since he was a child,and since he left Batman,he's only gotten better,Red Hood has an unpredictability about him,plus his LOA training,but dealing with fighting someone more collected and calm throughout a fight,Nightwing takes it.

[@jameshenry5100]

Nightwing has surpassed Batman and towered over red hood skill wise, red hood just a dickhead Robin with guns, that’s all. Nightwing is pretty much a good talon with Batman training and is pretty much a court of owls member in the Batman family who kicks ass and is very reasonable at the same time.

[@jameshenry5100]

Nightwing is talons grandson and talon keeps fighting for him to join the court of owls.

[@jerryjohnsonii4181]

NightWing hands down. He trained with Bruce Wayne !!!!!!!!

[@KGreen-wz5xr]

I would have to say Nightwing

[@michaelbarash3565]

Nightwing.

[@ajjackson100]

I’d give it to Red Hood. Especially if where talking after Flashpoint. Jason in the N52 has his Robin Training, His Training with the All -Caste(Mystic warrior), and Still trained with Assassins and Mercenaries of the League of Shadows during his “Lost Days”(Which includes Bronze Tiger and Lady Shiva). Jason Has Wins over Bronze Tiger, Lady Shiva, Ras Al Ghul, Deathstroke, And Batman himself in the N52. Jason’s body is also Peak due to the Lazarus Pit so it’s even between him and Dick physically. And Jason has his All-Blades(Soul swords he can summon) Jason even has better control over his anger now. Dick really only has his Leadership, Acrobatics and Strategy over Jason. Close fight but Jason FTW.

[@dyxblovfx8539]

red hood

[@kamusknight]

Night Wing!

[@deathcold_longplaysua4846]

I think that they both would win cause they both are good, but Red Hood's rage makes him weak while Nightwing can think like Batman, before attacking, which makes him strong enough to defeat Red Hood.

[@alexrogers1959]

Love the beatdowns, could we ever see a batman vs Deathstroke in the vein of Ben Affleck’s idea. Would be awesome to see since we never got it and there’s no other live action fight on KZbin like it. Your amazing team is just right to bring us the batfleck deathstroke match up we never got! Keep up the great work

[@aidanlieberman4232]

Do Nightwing vs red hood! And have Batman come in as a cameo

[@Tricon12353]

Yes that needs to happen

[@josephmartinez3880]

I say nightwing for the win

[@vincebasile8721]

I'll take Nightwing he's the closest thing to Bruce in all regards and probably the closest thing to a Bruce successor.

[@funquan6528]

NightWing

[@vidrotransparente1971]

Nightwing WINS. He is the first Robin and he is more Best of Red Hood, the first Robin is more trained que o Red Hood, so NIGHTWING WINS !!!

[@theduderolls]

Don't debate it do it. Just Do it.

[@hobbitplayzshlwithfriends44]

Nightwing would win because Nightwing has had the most training with Batman

[@lukeronalds5963]

Isaiah Mitchell Redhood has master firearms and fighting technique and hes more aggressive than nightwing And he has more gadgets Red hood would whip Nightwing not as badly as Damien in outlaws though but still Red hood could counter all night wings acrobatics and agility and redhood knows lethal fightings style and Batman’s and Nightwing only knows Batman fighting styles redhood would win

[@angelalba8939]

Nightwing is going without a doubt he was the frist robin and the best all robins

[@landonlee5536]

Nightwing would win.

[@shootingreal5945]

Lol so many of these posts are saying Red hood would win be he would be trying to kill...uh the same way/reason Batman defeats opponents who are trying to kill him is the same reason Nightwing will defeat Red hood..not rocket science here.

[@Naturelovinghippie]

shooting real5 I’ve only seen one post saying Red Hood would win? Every other post is saying Nightwing. What posts are seeing?

[@shootingreal5945]

@@Naturelovinghippie I was talking in regards to any debates with say Batman vs Red Hood..fans are going to have no problem saying Batman wins despite the fact that Jason has guns..well nightwing has the same training and you better believe fear for his first sidekick safety would mean Bruce would hammer Dick with training ultra-hard times 1000 to ensure he wouldn't be shot so the gun factor doesn't fly with me..I mean Dick has taken on expert highly trained gun users all the time who were without a doubt trying to kill him..his suit is geared toward allowing him greater movement to take advantage of his speed to deal with gun users specifically.

[@sealjow]

Red Hood would win because he is good at predicting the Bat Family's moves. So he knows what attacks are coming, unless it's new.

[@gazbaz2684]

Tyler Boholst These 2 have fought many times and nightwing always wins. Even Jason admits that Dick was the best Robin

[@sealjow]

@@gazbaz2684 Nah, watch LEGO Batman Family Matters. Red Hood vs. Nightwing, Red Hood won. Nightwing, doesn't *always* win.

[@gazbaz2684]

Tyler Boholst that’s a LEGO film literally almost anything happens in those

[@sealjow]

@@gazbaz2684 Just stating the fact Nightwing doesn't always win.

[@mikey4767]

Their isn’t a debate nightwing is better he beat Jason multiple times in the comics

[@dontbemad.5435]

Grayson as he surpassed Batman for sure read the comics Jason got bitched.

[@mr.cheese5336]

I honestly think red hood would win

[@jadenmckinney3489]

It's already Red Hood. He had even fooled batman, even tricked him a few times, and Nightwing can't really do those things. If Tim Drake is red Hood, he discovered who batman really was at 9 YEARS OLD. Either way, Red Hood pulled out the emotional side of batman, so it's gotta be redhood. Also, red Hood would already know the tricks Nightwing could pull off. Red Hood beats Nightwing in smarts, skills, and I say athletic abilities. Also weaponery because red Hood could flip while shooting his guns, and Nightwing could also Dodge or reflect the bullets, but red Hood would already have his next attack, so I say red Hood would win

[@_batman1509]

Tim drake is red Robin not red hood

[@jadenmckinney3489]

@@_batman1509 so many Robin's, I get them mixed up 😂😂😂

[@_batman1509]

I understand 😂😂

[@jadenmckinney3489]

@@_batman1509 one thing that's true is that most usually got killed

[@truealphaultraflash1887]

NIGHTWING ALL THE WAY HE WINS SKILLED FIGHTER. HE HAS DIFFERENT FIGHTING STYLES AND OF COURSE THE ACROBAT Batinthsun love your channel The Best And The Greatest channel ever 😍😀😎✌👍

[@spideyuzumaki6876]

I think nightwing its one of my favorite hero