Debate Settled. Jones Is the GOAT.

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[@TommyToeHold]

My apologies to Geoff Neal 🤦‍♂ yes I know his name lmao I was recording at 5 AM give me a break 😂

[@dannyknightblade4592]

I appreciate that you can admit to having make a mistake. Sh*t happens. It's cool dude.

[@squadabingo9113]

Bouta say lol

[@zaug1561]

No excuse for that Tony!

[@ThePromotionWars]

You get a break on your 15! No excuses!

[@steezuskryst7201]

Casual

[@marcelosilva2495]

I`m a Jon Jones fan but we should wait for the post fight drug test before declaring him anything. 😂

[@Radjhitoocool]

No that’s pure hater behavior

[@dylan2na652]

can i get a hoooooyaaaaaa

[@wrecclessescobar6252]

Wouldn't matter still the goat

[@danblige9140]

look at that man again and tell me that stomach came from gear 😂

[@danblige9140]

no doubt still the goat

[@jg5004]

We call it Gane in 124 seconds.

[@dankk2754]

Lol nice

[@dapanda2068]

Wonderful lmao

[@VinsmokeNanaG]

You my friend, are a joker artisan ...

[@Leroyscaand]

We call it domestic violence

[@criminaltc9565]

Gane like the wind

[@turtl3p0werr]

Dang called my man’s George Neal 😂

[@Bigdaddyhammer]

Hey... At least they gave good ol George a shout out.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

Probably just a slip of the tongue, you see a name that starts with "Geo" you immediately think George. Geoff is a weird spelling. They were probably reading off a script.

[@kain7513]

@@Bigdaddyhammer Go home...

[@BCbear551]

I knew Jones' grappling was far beyond Gane's but God damn was it wild to see a hulking man like him get manhandled like that.

[@grangesaves33]

was not a contest, jones grappling is elite, gane is good

[@bofasofa9399]

@@grangesaves33 That's literally what they just said... the comment you just replied to said "I knew Jones's grappling was far beyond Gane's".

[@codyparker679]

They are the same size. And skills vs less skill. Easy outcome there

[@IronPsyde]

@@codyparker679 Same size? He outweighs Jones by 30-40lbs

[@ChainsGone2012]

​@@IronPsyde... They both weighed in at about 245

[@jjhfcf_metal6259]

The prelims were very good and got overshadowed by the main and co-main events. Blackshear's smooth triangle on Basharat in the last seconds of their bout was insane. Tabatha Ricci's judo throw and armbar against Jessica Penne were beautiful. Ian Garry's third round against Song was like a Rocky movie.

[@AlexHernandez-gn6rd]

I would have to agree though I was hoping Cody garbrandt would of finished the fight at round 3 since clearly he was winning at that point

[@akasilkyslim]

Also in the early prelims that Cameron Saaiman kid from South Africa looked great and he just 22. Impressive striking

[@anon2427]

They got our italian women fighting each other wtf

[@joehogan8013]

@@anon2427 neither of them are italian bud Ricci is Brazilian and Penne is Dutch american

[@coolbreeze3793]

Tabatha got a nice ass though and I’d but in Amanda ribas. That’s all I got from the prelims.

[@TotallyNotRedneckYall]

I thought Jon would win but DAMN he made it look easy. I hope he can keep his shit together and fight like two more times this year.

[@blairwilliams3311]

Sergei is coming for Jones

[@AveSicarius]

To be fair he's fighting a dude with very little in the way of grappling skills, it's still a great victory, but Jon is a superb wrestler and submission artist and Gane, well, he's a striker with some decent submissions from his back. Jon definitely went for the right gameplan though.

[@F76CC]

@@AveSicarius lmao you really trying to take away any little thing you can from JBJs win. Stop being so passive aggressive.

[@stacks3892]

@@AveSicarius so what your saying is the win isn't impressive because jon has a wrestling backround? Lol dude stop

[@user-vt3vo1yd3v]

@@blairwilliams3311 Lmao sergei sucks he just has power and swings wildly. May work against nobodies like that alcoholic australian, but won’t work against a sigma cocaine addict like Jonathan Bones Jones. Jones will fucking demolish pavlobitch.

[@RandyRelish99]

this was my first fight seeing jon jones live, and man I wish we got more then 2 minutes lmao

[@12jdjd]

Same here bro, first time seeing him live. You can feel that he just has a different energy around him. Dude is too good.

[@ZachGatesHere]

​@@12jdjd I wish you guys could go back in time and see Jones before all the scandals. Don't get me wrong this was amazing but JBJ during his rise was something else.

[@12jdjd]

@@ZachGatesHere me too man

[@twuandixon8675]

​@@ZachGatesHere made everyone look like nobodies.

[@surfandsnow1]

I think the word GOAT gets tossed around too much in MMA

[@edgiebraahhh7280]

Right. That term only belongs to Jones

[@xKayNee]

I mean not just MMA, constantly thrown around in Football and Basketball. In MMA it's just more debatable, or at least it was.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

@@xKayNee it's a debate in pretty much every major sport, the only slam dunk I can think of is Gretzky in hockey. Lmao, I think. I don't really pay any attention to hockey. But in basketball most would say Jordan, but there's also people who would argue for LeBron or Wilt Chamberlain. In football I guess most would say Brady, but it's just so hard to compare players from different positions in football because they all do such different things. Baseball is even more murky, because of all the difference from generation to generation, plus steroids.

[@haerverk]

Not just MMA.. I seems to simply mean "good" among the terminally online

[@xKayNee]

@@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 Pretty much

[@jg5004]

Remember when people though Izzy vs Jones would be competitive?

[@travis8895]

Holy shit yeah in 2020 people were taking about that fight

[@jay_1212]

Honestly I never knew why people thought that considering how much bigger Jon is and the fact that his wrestling would neutralize Izzy

[@jay_1212]

Honestly I never knew why people thought that considering how much bigger Jon is and the fact that his wrestling would neutralize Izzy

[@Bowfella]

Even after Jones got his ass beat by Reyes I knew that was horseshit. Izzy depends entirely on having the reach advantage and he has no TDD against guys bigger than him, the Jan fight proved all that. Jon is 100x the wrestler that Jan is and he has way more reach than Jan does. It would be the most one-sided beatdown in LHW history.

[@TheRealCCSmith]

Izzy is an absolute bad ass...but Jones is to, and WAY bigger.

[@garymusgrave5153]

Make no mistake, Grasso was having a good stand up battle. She was punching well! It was just an error where Valentina was really putting it together and building momentum, and got caught in a bad position. Grasso will need to work on that takedown defense for the second fight.

[@fwxalan7056]

the good thing about grassos fight is she now knows what she needs to work on while STILL winning

[@rougeegamer98]

Her first round was very impressive and opened the cut on Valentina's nose. I'm interested to see how she adapts because if she runs into Santos (who I think Valentina needs to run it back with before another shot. I think their first fight was really close and I even had Santos by split, but who cares) if Santos gets the W and fights Grasso I can see it going to Santos. Valentina's spinning back kick on the fence was a major lapse of judgement. Maybe she didn't even know she was that close to the fence in the first place. I think if Valentina didn't throw it and kept circling she would have won the round and then play it safe in the 5th. Great fight though

[@rougeegamer98]

There's also blanchfield. Who I think if she refines her striking will be a major contender as well. Alot of great grapplers in the division, and Grasso has holes in that area. It'll be interesting seeing what's next for her

[@Apollo-th2xb]

​@@rougeegamer98dude are you serious ? She's been champion since 2018, how dare you say she doesn't deserve the immediate rematch in a fight she was on the way to win

[@bradschneider8982]

Valentina fought like total shit the whole fight and got completely outclassed. I don’t see her winning the rematch.

[@hellsfortune7132]

Extremely unreal that grasso won, it was so hype to see her get that choke in

[@nocturnal6129]

Was it unreal? I'm hyped bro.

[@MynameisBrianZX]

I have all the respect for that. She got a golden opening and just finished it with no wasted time. Shavkat and Neal was frustrating with how often they rocked each other and just hugged instead of capitalizing

[@serialmiller1987]

Grasso upset was amazing and I was not expecting the Jones domination. While Bo Nickel had a finish in his debut, from what I saw, his technique looked sloppy (referring to arm-triangle) and I wonder if we'll have another Sage Northcutt or Greg Hardy situation when Bo faces tougher competition.

[@ianmccutcheon1058]

Brock won the belt and defended it… I think that would be a pretty good career for him haha

[@zleggitt1989]

His technique was fine.. Pickett was defending well and the right way so it took longer to finish

[@NoPhlyZone20]

A Brock Lesnar situation?! So he becomes the champ & then defends? LMAO you know NOTHING about MMA if you're lumping Brock & Sage in the same category.

[@aweecuntfromliverpool7946]

It's the feints in the opening that concerned me. He's faking 1-2-3-Shoot combinations from outside kicking range. I'm like bruh you didn't test his reactions, you showed him one of your cards. He just gotta round his game and he'll be scary if he doesn't have a glass jaw

[@serialmiller1987]

@NoPhlyZone20 a wrestler with strength is my point. When the competition got better Brock lost the belt decisively and then got wrecked by Overeem

[@hhtptai]

I let out the loudest "HOLY FUCK" when Valentina tapped out.

[@ives3572]

I was shocked with how fast Jon Jones finished Ciryl Gane, I was expecting a lot more from Gane, thought it was gonna be a five-round competitive technical hard-fought battle

[@daviddines479]

I think a rematch next week would look a bit different. Well I think its possible. I think if Gane is serious about being the best and he wants it, 6 months of training would definitely make a difference. Well done Jon Jones.

[@jwallE93]

GSP did the same thing, went up a weight class and beat the actual champ.

[@doge-xj7zb]

Bisping was old and was cherry picked by gsp.gane was in his prime

[@dale_gribble_pocket_sand]

​@@doge-xj7zb exactly 💯💯

[@tipetelbn5758]

Comparing bisping and gane is crazy . I would prefer he face romero or whittaker then its legit

[@Maartun]

Gsp is the goat Jon needs to defend the belt against stipe, pavlovich, blaydes and asspinol then he will be the goat.

[@tipetelbn5758]

@@Maartun and brock lesnar and the incredible hulk and godzilla right ?

[@Ponchovilla69]

This cat said George Neal 😂

[@JrakeOutdoors]

And they are an MMA channel haha!

[@Ponchovilla69]

@@JrakeOutdoors 🤦‍♂️

[@viponly5372]

Cats can’t speak English dude

[@Ponchovilla69]

@@viponly5372 you obviously don't fw Garfield

[@SnowLeopard784]

Wait until after the test results to make that call.

[@StrawWeaver]

'Shavchat just had his Gilbert fight' was my exact thought, except here there's no debate about who won. Geoff Neil isn't Burns, but he's a beast nonetheless

[@trinidaddy]

Neal might be a better striker than burns, so it's more impressive from shavkat in my opinion. Just by comparing my memories of the two fights, I think Shavkat is a better striker than khamzat in pretty much every aspect. Though the fact that neal pretty much neutralized his grappling could be alarming for the future.

[@shaecouture7480]

There wasnt any debate that Khamzat won if you are unbiased with eyes and dont count events of round 2 like they bled over into round 3.

[@benlewis5312]

I completely disagree with the comparison honestly. Unlike Khamzat, Shavkat's chin had been tested. Unlike Khamzat, Shavkat easily won all 3 rounds. And unlike Khamzat, Shavkat finished his opponent. Neal fought very well and his TDD presented a unique obstacle for Shavkat, but it was a dominant performance by Shavkat nonetheless

[@shaecouture7480]

@@benlewis5312 Dude. Rewatch round 2 qnd the bombs Khamzat ate that would have slept any other 170 fighter

[@benlewis5312]

@@shaecouture7480 I was saying that Khamzat's chin had never been tested UNTIL the Burns fight. Shavkat's chin had been tested in previous fights prior to fighting Neal. He was even knocked down and nearly finished in a fight outside of the UFC

[@unknownceleb642]

Idk. I feel like peds takes the goat title away. I find it wierd that Dillashaws whole career was questioned after he was caught, but we seem to ignore it when it comes to Jones. Edit; btw, all due respect to Jones, he's clearly talented as a fighter, but the boosting ruined his chance as a goat, in my opinion.

[@mannymengs]

True, hard to respect him as goat when he almost certainly cheated his way through a lot of it

[@brolyonsome3963]

Under the USADA revision Jones wouldve never tested positive. And in the peak of his career EVERYONE was juiced to the gills anyway. For some reason people just irrationally hate TJ

[@dannyknightblade4592]

@@brolyonsome3963 Claiming that everyone was guilty to make Jon Jones seem less guilty is pretty weak dude.

[@brolyonsome3963]

@dannyknightblade4592 Machida. steroid allegations im pretty sure literally confirmed. Rampage. abused TRT. Shogun. a Prime champion. Chael Sonnen. confessed to being on insane amounts of roids. That's just some examples. If youre going by innocent til proven guilty thats fine but the same thing applies to Jones regardless.

[@mannymengs]

@@brolyonsome3963 yeah imo they should all have an asterisk

[@50shadesofgday64]

I'm still sad we couldn't see Jones and Francis Ngannou 😢

[@ZachGatesHere]

It would have been tough. Ngannous entire plan would have to be to keep distance and go for headshots. He showed against Stipe that he can defend grappling but he wouldn't want to go to the ground. Meanwhile, well, his hands are nukes, if Jones got in the way of one it's lights out so he'd definitely want to get it on the ground and stay there. I love Ngannou but Jones is versatile enough I think he'd just make sure to wrestlefuck him to death.

[@daviddines479]

Never say Never. I would make beating Nganou a condition of me accepting Jon as the goat but it also might never happen.

[@hookedentertainment9089]

Jones himself said he now has knockout power that he didn't have at light heavyweight. We didn't get a chance to see that, his wrestling was never an issue with the weight jump. How he would handle himself against a heavier opponent was. I'm still excited to see how that argument plays out in his title defence

[@daviddines479]

I think that short fight was a very good textbook example of the value of good wrestling technique. I look at the pair of them and think it shouldnt be that easy for Jones.

[@jomahawk7488]

Everyone is laser focused on the JBJ fight, and understandably so. But personally, Shecvchenko Vs Grasso was my favorite fight of the night. I’m a relatively new fan to this sport, and have only seen 2 of Val’s title defenses, but even then, I could tell she was never going to give up her belt easily. To hear Grasso say “I trained SPECIFICALLY to capitalize on her screwing up a spinning back kick” really elevated her as a legit champion to me. That she recognized Schevchenko’s style, made adjustments for it, and was able to bring home the belt exploiting it. That’s the mark of a fighter that knows how to win.

[@nicolaspallini6338]

Great video! Thanks for calling out that nut shot in the Nickal/Pickett fight, absolutely played a huge part and everyone just glossed right over it!!

[@dylanseder009]

its been bothering me

[@eg8568]

Out grapples a striker who doesn't train outside of fight camps. Not to forget he has a history of juicing. C'mon now, this changes nothing

[@jay_1212]

So you’re blaming Jon for something his opponent failed to work on? Not to mention why wouldn’t he out grapple him, did expect him to trade strikes. If this changes nothing then GSP’s win against Bisping means nothing

[@eg8568]

@Jay_ 12 I never blamed him for anything. I just pointed out that this win proves less than his other wins, and ultimately doesn't really add much to his legacy (unlike beating Ngannou). Or do you disagree?

[@markusmahadeo1374]

Jon is easily the GOAT, he was the GOAT before this fight and now he has made his resume even better

[@jay_1212]

@@eg8568 I personally disagree that it doesn’t add to anything but I do agree that a win against Francis would definitely look much stronger. Remember Gane was still a threat in the division and was a top contender that Jones made to look like a toy.

[@sdsoda4521]

You were saying Gane was going to beat him before the fight, and now the win doesn't mean anything. You're a hater, your opinion doesn't mean anything.

[@aloisvonbergner7850]

Hey MMA On Point, great vid! Can you tell me the name of the background music you used in this video?

[@incubus3069]

The Geoff Neil vs. Rhakmonov fight was a great one. A good banger. It reminded me of the Burns vs. Khamsat fight. Shavkat vs. Khamsat. Let's do it!

[@Fourside__]

We will forever talk about the missed jones vs ngannou fight. It doesnt sting yet but missing out on that fight will be the biggest tragedy in mma, not even the missed fedor fight will compete

[@VinsmokeNanaG]

Hopefully one day 😭

[@TheSTB9]

I actually think it happens. Dana is such a damn liar. He most definitely would want Francis back for that fight at least. If he gains enough traction from the boxing fights. It would just make it a bigger fight

[@Phlayr]

The only thing that makes ngannou interesting is his power.

[@abaddonthelordofavernus.4353]

@@Phlayr not even his chin, or his evolution since the Stipe fight?

[@Phlayr]

@@abaddonthelordofavernus.4353 fair enough. I subconsciously am finding reasons to tell myself ngannou wasn’t as good as he is so that I save myself the frustrating reality that the next best possible matchup for Jones would be Francis . I’d entertain the idea more if Dana didn’t treat Francis like his ex girlfriend haha

[@raulcruzquintanilla9834]

This video is amazing you should do a recap vid like this for every numbered event

[@ghilliedupgamingandtech]

Grasso really impressed me throughout the fight. She was constantly looking to improve position, looked to stand up as soon as she was taken down, and was absolutely in that fight leading up to the finish.

[@destano2951]

grasso wasn’t biggest upset ever. peña was bigger because amanda had been dominating while shevchenko almost lost her last fight

[@paradisal2014]

I was thinking this 100%

[@tricky7363]

fr especially since shevchenko’s last fight was semi controversial, I figured Grasso would likely be the closest to beating her this time after that fight

[@TriWaZe]

But Shev almost lost to a grapple heavy fighter. Not a striker.

[@TriWaZe]

She did lose against Santos imo

[@paradisal2014]

@@TriWaZe weasel broke that one down and shev squeaked it out

[@ricardojornada]

You guys are awesome. Really wholesome channel, been a fan since forever. Well done lads.

[@azouitinesaad3856]

Jones would be the goat if not for his loss against cheal sonnen.

[@THE-CHAMPION-HAS-A-NAME]

Just to let you know it's Geoff Neal not George🤣🤣🤣

[@judgemcnugget7110]

Wow, an elite grappler, after three years of bulking up beat a guy with weak takedown defense. This is as astounding as it'd be if Khamzat bulked up for three years and submitted current Alex Pereira.

[@StevelyBruckShut]

I know the fight was short, but Jon honestly looked better in this fight than he did in his last two. He was light on his feet and read every one of Gane's punches like a book. He was slipping and sticking like crazy right before he countered into that takedown.

[@blaineholt1589]

Kinda hard to tell when Gane puts out zero offense. He went from having some takedown defense and great offense to literally standing in the octagon this fight.

[@daviddines479]

@@blaineholt1589 Iv seen others say it. The first 30 second im like Gane is fighting super cautious. He showed a bit too much respect and made it very slightly easier.

[@kablam0019]

@@blaineholt1589 the takedown came off a punch, which is offense. Derp

[@blaineholt1589]

@@kablam0019 came off of his slowest punch ever thrown with little to know reaction defense wise. Just instantly gave his back. Looked like a fighter straight out of 2005 even though we’ve seen him attempt td defense and even get up with ngannou on top of him

[@kablam0019]

@@blaineholt1589 definitely wasnt the slowest punch ever, cope. Looked like an average speed punch

[@urmom-_]

glad other people noticed bo getting that takedown because of a nut shot, was screaming at the tv for the commentary booth missing it 😂

[@Drackzgull]

Yeah I was watching with a friend and I was telling him "this is going to be a No Contest" before Bo even got the finish. I am shocked that neither Picket nor his corner complained at all. I was hyped for Bo's UFC debut, but that fight was a sham.

[@kudo2030]

@@Drackzgull They are actually chasing a NC with the commission now but in the moment they could've really made the difference.

[@rougeegamer98]

It was a terrible call by the ref. I saw it but my partner didn't so I can't blame the commentators on the spot. But once picket started and kept wincing it was bizarre that they didn't even ask why. I think anik brought it up but yeah it was weird that there was no follow up. If it was a killer knee into the liver that led to the takedown we would have seen it on the replay but looked like they avoided it. I'm calling a conspiracy 😂 but I don't think nickal is even that popular as a prospect with fans. I can't see him getting a W in the top 10. Even someone like kopylov who's not in the top 10 will demolish him

[@romeomonteverde]

Well give him a drug test first before crowning him GOAT. You never know. Brock was positive during his last match

[@zackh420]

Did they really call Geoff Neal George? Lmao

[@sawgrass7477]

You can’t be a GOAT if you’ve been caught many times on drug tests

[@dannyknightblade4592]

True. What does it say about the sport of Mixed Martial Arts when the fighter considered to be the greatest of all time is a drug cheat? How well would Jon Jones have done if he didn't have some performance enhancing chemicals in his system? 🤔 GSP is still the best to me. He didn't get as many finishes as Jon Jones; but he was a great fighter who dominated the majority of his fights and was a clean fighter. Jon Jones fights dirty in the cage with finger pokes and he's a drug cheat as well; so in my humble opinion he's disqualified from the greatest of all time debate.

[@robswystun2766]

He's the asterisk GOAT.

[@YoungJaime]

And guess what bozos Jon is officially the GOAT and is now a two division champ and GSP is second behind Jon and yes he’s also a two division champ who came back from a nice layoff but it wasn’t an easy fight and Jon took zero damage and won so easy

[@AveSicarius]

As if all of the top fighters aren't on PEDs and Jon just got caught...

[@sawgrass7477]

@@dannyknightblade4592 exactly. Jon could’ve been the greatest ever without the failed tests but we’ll never know

[@doublesawbuck]

Awesome thanks guys

[@jeremiahjoseph3973]

Good shit, that’s why I watch these videos. Thank you!

[@StormyDanielsHushMoney]

RIP George Neal

[@dewskii]

Can we take a second to appreciate the work this channel has put in the last week! Keep up road to 1mill🎉

[@EddieEd148]

Thank you for another great video gentlemen 👏👏

[@LottoWavy]

Dear Max Randall 1:03 *Geoff* Neil, not George lol 8:07 Background music gets way louder Love ya mate

[@MichaelBrown-rg8oi]

Still waiting for his fights against Stipe, Papolovich, and Aspinall.

[@vasnayapolyana7250]

Watched with an old friend, soon as Valentina is walking it he says, "I have a feeling she's gonna lose." He was right af

[@NEFT4LI]

Loud azz music at the end killed it for me

[@PranavVeluri2001navtheman20]

I still put GSP and Mighty Mouse over Jones. Those guys did it clean and without all the messed up stuff outside the octagon. When you call someone the greatest, there is an implied judgement of their character and personal behavior as well. PED usage is a massive blot on a fighter’s legacy, and criminal issues also play a role in overall evaluation. Jones is by far the most talented fighter in MMA history, but he trashed his reputation too many times for him to go above standup role models like GSP and DJ who were dominant in their own right while also being good men inside and outside the octagon.

[@dannyknightblade4592]

I agree. I love that GSP and Mighty Mouse aren't just great fighters, but great role models as well.

[@BlockyRaptor]

Imo if anyone came up to me and said either GSP, Jones or DJ is the goat I wouldn't argue it, those 3 have equally strong arguments for goat status

[@bwareist]

"Thier is an implied judge of their character" No thier isn't. That's just some bs people use to try and justify thier bias'. It doesn't matter what someone does outside of thier profession, no one watches a sport for what people act like outside of it. As such we should only judge by what happens in the cage. Also Usada changed thier standards.

[@austiningram6596]

I personally eliminate anyone who has failed drug tests for PEDs from my GOAt list, so I still have GSP. THAT BEING SAID: There is no doubt Jon is the best fighter and the most talented fighter who has ever lived. That, at this point, is beyond question. Oh, and what about that George Neal guy, huh?. What a fighter :)

[@brolyonsome3963]

Under the USADA revision he never would've tested positive

[@austiningram6596]

@@brolyonsome3963 This just isn’t true. His UFC 214 fail was under USADA regulations. He was originally set to be suspended for four years, but it was lowered because of him being ‘cooperative’. This was not a picogram fail; that was UFC 232. The PED he failed for at 214 is still on the banned list, and the amount in his system was much higher than a trace amount.

[@PittiesAndMore]

Jones should have fought Ngannu sometime his three year absence. He was smart to wait until Ngannu left the UFC.

[@WalkwYah]

This guy really said that Alexa Grasso winning was the biggest upset of all time…. Did we already forget Peña vs Nuñez??

[@jooyoungkang3858]

I don’t know… after watching the rematch… I think Penas win over Nunes was a total fluke… she was literally spewing blood on the mat by the time Nunes was done with Peña…

[@tn98544]

the audio mix just after the 8min mark is off. Background music just got loud

[@TheOnlyBasketCase]

Looks like his sparring sessions with his fiance really paid off! Congrats!

[@vodgrye]

And the roids

[@negritotenfold]

Haters 😂

[@rjamesyork]

This joke is getting old.

[@Poopopotamusgaming]

@@rjamesyork You think domestic abuse is a joke?

[@JohnQueSacc]

​@Poopopotamusgaming I think making memes including his fiancée is making more of a joke

[@Jaystub]

JBJ will always get an asterisk next to his GOAT status.

[@Ooooooopsy]

he literally got cleared they said every test violation was small enough it wouldn’t even be a violation today

[@wrecclessescobar6252]

Casual take

[@kiaandavids755]

everyone will always have an asterisk next to their name in this debate.

[@doge-xj7zb]

You wanted him to lose

[@Andrew-xt8lz]

If @jay from KZbin says so then it’s law

[@llongone2]

This card delivered! So many great fights!

[@zachtuttle2157]

Didn’t know there was a debate

[@umungus518]

I wish we could have seen Jones vs Francis

[@robswystun2766]

Despite what Jon says, the UFC does not always give fans what they want.

[@AveSicarius]

I think Jon 100% wins that. If Jon can somewhat stand-up with Ciryl, Francis can't touch him, and it didn't look like Jon had any trouble grappling with heavyweights. It's basically a fight reliant on puncher's chance if Francis won.

[@devinburkett9036]

bones Rapes Francis

[@LastbutNotFirst]

no one mentioned that jones did not FRAME UP his arms length that entire fight. whatsoever.

[@Apollo-th2xb]

Yeah cos he payed for it dearly in his last fight, I'm certain Ganes camp looked at the Reyes fight, and I guarantee Jon knew they would so he changed his boxing approach, instead of frame away pressure and shoot down the middle. Gane was shook by it and Jon knew he would be

[@sakibahmedsezan]

I am a Bones fan, I thought he would win late in round 3 or 4 by submission for sure. But never thought something like this would happen. It felt like Gane got Cold Feet.

[@Anthony-dj4nd]

Also let's not forget that Gane was supposed to be one of those next gen HW's!

[@chubaca4830]

In terms of striking he is, but this is mma, his wrestling and tkd absolutely sucks. Looked like a fish out of the water

[@holeindanssock156]

Gane absolutely let us all down. Hoping stipe or Sergey come for the strap

[@chubaca4830]

@@holeindanssock156 dont forget Aspinall

[@dustinpitts106]

​@@chubaca4830 Aspinall has a prayers chance in hell of beating bones

[@AveSicarius]

@@holeindanssock156 I don't think Stipe beats Gane, Ciryl is better on the feet and has at least some submission threat. Plus after this he's going to hard focus on grappling I guess. I don't think anyone in the division beats Gane on the feet, but he's only been fighting in MMA for a relatively short time so his grappling is way below average for the other divisions, but Heavyweight isn't exactly grappling heavy so...

[@js1741]

It's still Mighty Mouse and I will die on this hill.

[@BrushworkNL]

Couldn't believe Shavkat subbed George Neal, Amazing stuff.

[@atdhemorina3348]

Not sure you'll see this. But the music was wayyyyy too loud in this video. Couldn't finish the video because of it near the end. Love the content

[@johnbowe4603]

Jones will never be the goat imo. He is one of the dirtiest fighters and he’s been popped for steroids way too many times

[@weareall1]

It all depends on whether we believe he is a clean athlete or not.

[@desean3402]

We already know he hasn’t always been clean but no one seems to care when it comes to this debate 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@JohnDoe-ep1cp]

Welll.... I mean usada changed the rules now. And under the new rules he would have never tested positive lol

[@Jai.P91]

@@JohnDoe-ep1cp exactly old rules he was a rule breaker today is a squeaky clean goat

[@TrueRomancer04]

That is one factor. Another is him just being a $hit person outside the cage. When we call someone "the greatest" we are proclaiming on some level that they are an example to be followed. A big man who knocks down everyone else is not an example to be followed on that basis alone.

[@brolyonsome3963]

​@@TrueRomancer04He is the best P4P fighter ever as it stands currently

[@weignerleigner3037]

Tomorrow:”Jon Jones tests positive for *insert ped here* ”

[@youcantseeme2244]

Never will get past the roid use, eye pokes, etc ... DJ and GSP >

[@Legend-bt8qt]

Stipe, Ngannou and Pavlovich/Aspinall that would be my 3 top fights for Jones. Pavlovich and Aspinall are very technical and would be a good fight for Jones

[@chidouzoegbo7997]

Please don't join the list of people underestimating Blaydes.... Don't be suprised if he stops the sergei hype train

[@edgiebraahhh7280]

Pavlovich and Blaydes ain‘t all that

[@robswystun2766]

How lucky is Stipe? Dude loses to Francis, and then gets to fight for the strap again after not doing anything MMA-wise after that for like two years or whatever.

[@coryfusting9294]

Rooting for him, not gonna lie

[@dannyknightblade4592]

How lucky is Jones for getting the heavyweight title without having to defeat the real heavyweight champion Francis?

[@SithStudy]

How lucky is Jones? Dude is a steroid cheat and wife beater and everyone loves him

[@AngryJT]

1 minute grapple domination doesn't answer much to me.

[@Breezy_alee]

Just finished watching the vid and ur arguments are good yea they were close calls but a dubs a dub nice vid

[@grangesaves33]

I really hope jon jones is being serious this time.

[@joshhale9355]

I can take points away for the actual crimes he’s committed, but in terms of fighting he’s taken the crown

[@trtmuslimmcgregor4200]

Grasso made Valentina a panic wrestler which ive never seen her do. She wrestles to break her opponents, not to not get pieced up or knocked.

[@martyjohnstone8226]

The best prediction of future behavior is typically past behavior

[@piepie444]

Gsp is only person who can still make an argument over jones. But if successful defense of that title, especially over Stipe solidifies it for me tor jones to be the one true goat

[@doge-xj7zb]

Jon fought better fighters.gsp fought alot of wrestlers and one dimensional strikers

[@random__joe]

Conor is the GOAT. Even Khabib was ducking him

[@christianmichaud4037]

Did you read the title to the video? The debate is over, JBJ is miles ahead of GSP. Jones is the greatest mixed martial artist ever, point blank period.

[@JeffCarter77]

Gsp fights were so fucking boring to watch

[@el_p3nguin078]

I think this was enough for me to give it to him over GSP. If he defends there’s literally no excuse for anyone to not

[@dongvermine]

Incorrect. Can’t be the GOAT if you test positive.

[@ytsn_THE_OG]

Yep

[@akadapper]

It wasn't just the finish where Grasso got it done. She was great throughout the fight and the scorecards were looking good even without that fantastic finish

[@jesusbaltazar3524]

GRASSO CHAMPION LETS GO!🇲🇽

[@cmac4ster]

The disrespect to khabib is kinda mad here yknow

[@pistoldripz]

Why jon would smesh khabib

[@sunlight9056]

I agree, we need to see more heavyweight Jones before we weigh in.

[@blaineholt1589]

Just waiting for that next usada rule change lol. Easier to move the goal post apparently

[@gunsharck]

Do not ever forget he uses coke, ran over a pregnant woman and head butted a police car. Up your standards for the love of god

[@savagedabs8536]

They are fighters, not nuns!

[@AdmiralDigby]

His lack of control out of the cage and performance enhancing drug issues will forever keep him from GOAT statue.

[@edgiebraahhh7280]

Im sure he will be crushed After reading that you decided that

[@whiteycyanide1960]

You guys really must have forgot that Mighty Mouse exists

[@ChernzObyl]

Maybe this is a dumb question but why was Jon red gloves when usually red is given to the higher ranked fighter.

[@goochmagoo3293]

Someone who has had multiple PED suspensions and was allowed to fight while still actively having PEDs in his system is automatically eliminated from goat discussion

[@1974Imperium]

Agreed 100%

[@rogerj21]

6:30 I loved the reference of Tom Aspinall...the future HW champion, a complete killer.

[@PrinceIsot]

So pissed I missed this card. I wanted to watch all 5 of those fights

[@devinburkett9036]

it was *Legendary* levels of *Epic*

[@diggityd4n16]

the music got stupid loud at 8:07 lol

[@sanzmarc07]

Only gsp and dj can come close

[@jamespaul6315]

Gsp dicktucked hendricks rematch, prime anderson and only fought a guy with one eye at mw and ran

[@stephenwa7417]

Silva?

[@adeyiwunmi]

They don’t even come close in terms of competition that they beat The only reason we could mention them close to jones is because of roids

[@Pooki2024]

@@adeyiwunmi It’s not their fault there aren’t that many talented smaller fighters

[@jamespaul6315]

@@adeyiwunmi DJ destroyed everyone he faced including muay thai champions

[@erich1380]

I made four bets and won all 4. Feeling pretty good about myself 😂

[@ahmadbakir5535]

Good for u my man enjoy it😂

[@erich1380]

@@ahmadbakir5535 tyty. Was lame bets though. All round over unders. Only thing Im good at 😂

[@ahmadbakir5535]

@@erich1380 ur welcome , it’s alright anything is better than nothing at the end😂

[@compilerruntime]

Audio problem at 8:10

[@wendelangus1086]

I agree

[@hjiuz6894]

Cant believe beating a guy with no grappling and a 41 year old wil give jon the goat title

[@TheMightyMidget]

Always someone making excuses. That's a straw man and you know it. It's not beating 1 person. It's his past body of work and comparison to other athletes. Quit acting like he didnt do anything at LHW

[@dyfox3856]

He already had the GOAT title. This is all just extra credit. And he's still acing the tests. Mind blowing

[@JackFinney]

Personally, I can't consider him the GOAT. He popped for PEDs and that automatically takes him out of the conversation for the absolute greatest. Plus his numerous uses of dirty tactics like eye pokes doesn't help. One of the greatest ever? Absolutely. The greatest of all time? No.

[@caviconpoder]

who's next for Jon Bones Jones?