DEBATE: Were Arsenal ROBBED in Man City Battle?!?

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@TheKickOff
@TheKickOff Ай бұрын
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@samukelisiwemudau3553
@samukelisiwemudau3553 Ай бұрын
Simple answer no. Arsenal were not robbed
@dragonflame99k34
@dragonflame99k34 Ай бұрын
@@samukelisiwemudau3553it’s so laughable how arsenal fans can spin everything and play victim
@samukelisiwemudau3553
@samukelisiwemudau3553 Ай бұрын
@@dragonflame99k34 I know right, Arteta knew his team is losing so he instructed his players to injury Rodri, they got an assist from the refree with the 1 goal then they scored the 2 goal but ended up drawing and now were Arsenal robbed
@ImJimmyC
@ImJimmyC Ай бұрын
Another Kick Off without the studio? Is it ever coming back? I still love the content and will watch but its hugely affected quality
@Shifytee123
@Shifytee123 Ай бұрын
Maybe he moved as that was his apartment? Personally not fussed, it still works fine.
@ImJimmyC
@ImJimmyC Ай бұрын
​@@Shifytee123 I have no idea about it being his apartment or not but I highly doubt it, that was a high quality studio and zoom calls just aren't the same
@ImJimmyC
@ImJimmyC Ай бұрын
​@@TylerrTalksFootball what is the reason? I watch almost all his content and haven't heard why
@Shifytee123
@Shifytee123 Ай бұрын
@ImJimmyC different strokes from different folk I guess. Couldn't care less about looking at the studio or not, myself. And yes he did/does live at the studio. You watch all his content, I thought you'd have known😄
@ImJimmyC
@ImJimmyC Ай бұрын
​@@Shifytee123 It's not about what I see, its about what I hear, personally. Yeah true, must have missed the boxing video where mid knockout he mentions his living arrangements
@craigshackleton1652
@craigshackleton1652 Ай бұрын
Kovacic did two x-rated fouls in that game at the Emirates. No red card. I'm not even an Arsenal fan. Just sick of the Saudi's buying our league.
@Rowan_0161
@Rowan_0161 Ай бұрын
The league has had money for the past 100 years. You only hate that there is a new club at the top, All the big teams have done it in the past so to now attack the Saudi's is pathetic
@E.P_2489
@E.P_2489 Ай бұрын
Yeah bro the damn Saudis are ruining it
@africancoast
@africancoast Ай бұрын
City aren't owned by Saudi Arabia hahaha
@augment999
@augment999 Ай бұрын
X-rated? You make it sound like he tried to bum them
@timdurgan
@timdurgan Ай бұрын
@@Rowan_0161 there's a big difference between private billionaires and nation states
@Secretninja98
@Secretninja98 Ай бұрын
Jacob the most reasonable Arsenal fan I've heard. Flat out, the ref ruined the game for both teams. Nothing more nothing less.
@JourdanChaney
@JourdanChaney Ай бұрын
You must have not seen the videos before
@Secretninja98
@Secretninja98 Ай бұрын
@@JourdanChaney I watch pretty regularly and everyone has to back their team. But this game has a lot of potential for fans to take out of context , but Jacob was super dope to listen to tbh. Overall great video from the boys.
@jordan_roadhouse4798
@jordan_roadhouse4798 Ай бұрын
What did the ref do against Man City? He let a lot of their stuff go without cards. Haaland did allsorts of srupid stuff a normal team gets punished for.
@alihajali9218
@alihajali9218 Ай бұрын
To troll Arsenal even more, PGMOL will now change the rule regarding kicking the ball away back to how it was before
@peterandjunko
@peterandjunko Ай бұрын
They don’t really need to change the rule. Just not equally enforce it - as has already been proven by this discussion. Like other “new rules” refs will slink away from it as the season moves on. You will not see another second yellow for restart delay this season.
@alihajali9218
@alihajali9218 Ай бұрын
@@peterandjunko Whether they change it officially or enforce it more leniently, is my point.
@RsDv5
@RsDv5 Ай бұрын
It’s not about enforcing it leniently or changing the rule. It’s about consistency, refs like Oliver shouldn’t be allowed to pick and choose which decisions to give or take.
@alihajali9218
@alihajali9218 Ай бұрын
@@RsDv5 Yea, consistency, like how it was before, no cards, thats what im saying
@RsDv5
@RsDv5 Ай бұрын
@@alihajali9218 If you’re going to set precedent in a game and penalise one team you need to do the same to the other. Haaland shouldn’t have been on that pitch. Absolute joke.
@reecejones3187
@reecejones3187 Ай бұрын
So contradictory. You guys can’t ask for consistent refereeing and also want them to use common sense. The only way to be consistent is to apply the exact letter of the law every time. Not worrying about ruining a game.
@benjhaminbancquart6142
@benjhaminbancquart6142 Ай бұрын
But common sense has to prevail, honestly I wouldn't want players sent off from rivals for this either
@reecejones3187
@reecejones3187 Ай бұрын
@@benjhaminbancquart6142 I agree but that’s not the conversation. The only way to get consistency which is what everyone constantly complains about, is to have the rules followed to the letter. Because comment sense is subjective and that is what leads to the lack of consistency. I would rather have strict rules which are followed every single time even if that means initially some players being sent off for petulance. The players would wise up
@marvinmoeller3170
@marvinmoeller3170 Ай бұрын
Common sense is also that the same referees, followe the rules for everybody then, why is City complaining the whole time as a team when only the Captain is allowed, why is it a yellow for Trossard and not for Doku or Silva, why can Haaland throw the ball against Gabriel head ?
@reecejones3187
@reecejones3187 Ай бұрын
@@marvinmoeller3170 because the refs are awful, nobody is debating that but they’re equally awful to every team. BUT you can’t have common sense involved because each ref has a different perception on what common sense would dictate. The only way to be 100% consistent is to book every player that kicks away the ball, every time a player acts with dissent etc
@StrawHatPele
@StrawHatPele Ай бұрын
What a chemistry this team of lads are now. Well done Brian lad
@sloppygoo
@sloppygoo Ай бұрын
Can’t wait for them to split off and create Da Kool Klub next season
@DGoose512
@DGoose512 Ай бұрын
Joey’s point about end of season schedule isn’t as great as he thinks it is. City have Villa, Brighton, and away at Old Trafford (a fixture they struggle with) in their last 10 games. Villa is better than Chelsea, Newcastle and Brighton are level, and rivalry games are tough. Plus City’s December is brutal and supposedly they will have to go through it not at full gallop and without the ability to use the January window. So I don’t really think anyone has a schedule advantage rn tbh
@reddevilreview97
@reddevilreview97 Ай бұрын
I don’t think Jacob or any Arsenal fan has ever admitted that a decision against them has been correct
@emmanainsley4705
@emmanainsley4705 Ай бұрын
Well United will cry today from a similar red card
@blue_red_screen
@blue_red_screen Ай бұрын
Because they're entitled and deluded
@emmanainsley4705
@emmanainsley4705 Ай бұрын
@@reddevilreview97 I said united will get a red card… do you think that challenge doesn’t require common sense for a yellow?
@Slim-Clips
@Slim-Clips Ай бұрын
It’s the purposeful inconsistencies favouring a certain team with 115 charges 99% of the time that people are noticing.
@grealish2234
@grealish2234 Ай бұрын
Ok gooner mentality fan . Now we understand why u lot have 0 league titles in 22 years and ,0 ucls
@danielnicholson4660
@danielnicholson4660 Ай бұрын
With all respect that's bullshit. What about the ref pulling it back when grealish would have been through against spurs last year? What about when man city should have been 2-0 up against Liverpool last year but it got ruled out for some bs foul on Alison?
@drewbishop9090
@drewbishop9090 Ай бұрын
you think gabriel’s goal should’ve counted???
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall Ай бұрын
The studio is gone for real huh
@reecejones3187
@reecejones3187 Ай бұрын
Trossard smashed the ball away, wasn’t looking for a pass. why would he do that if he thinks the ball is in play? He would pass it out wide not launch it in the air
@jordan_roadhouse4798
@jordan_roadhouse4798 Ай бұрын
Or he was expecting the half time whistle given the time of it???
@reecejones3187
@reecejones3187 Ай бұрын
@@jordan_roadhouse4798 half time whistle is completely different from a foul whistle he’s an experienced player. Why can’t people just admit he was stupid and the ref followed the rules
@africancoast
@africancoast Ай бұрын
@@jordan_roadhouse4798 That would make him a total idiot lol
@jack_attack
@jack_attack Ай бұрын
@@reecejones3187 his foot is already swinging for the ball when Oliver blows the whistle. At that point it doesn’t even matter whether it’s a pass or clearance, he’s already in the motion of kicking it. Your brain can’t hear a whistle, react to it, and then pull out mid-kick in case a ref is feeling card happy.
@MovementMagazineLtd
@MovementMagazineLtd Ай бұрын
​@@reecejones3187 it was officially clocked at 0.84 seconds after the whistle that he kicked it. You know it but you hate Arsenal
@bleb87
@bleb87 Ай бұрын
I'm not really sure. But haaland throwing the ball at gabriels head was ridiculous and should have a red
@patricko.harrison255
@patricko.harrison255 Ай бұрын
Wow. Jacob take a bow mate. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
@AC_830
@AC_830 Ай бұрын
Walker was in line with the other 3 defenders, I don't see you whinning about Gundogan not letting Raya get into position. Nothing wrong with either of them. People whinging about Arsenal players on the corner? What did they do stand their ground, Ederson was weak at coming out.
@jkdure
@jkdure Ай бұрын
Stand their ground? weak exuse. To Arsenal players actively seeking into the goalkeeper and pressing him down..
@jordan_roadhouse4798
@jordan_roadhouse4798 Ай бұрын
​@@jkdure You know it's all on camera right? We can all see how wrong you are. Your delusions are not reality you entitled fans of the disgraceful 115 club are an actual joke.
@United_Wings
@United_Wings Ай бұрын
Michael Oliver is Man City's 12 men
@HT008
@HT008 Ай бұрын
Not even a city fan but it was 2 clear yellows though. Stop crying your players are stupid by kicking balls away and stopping freekicks being taken
@zavierrobertson5892
@zavierrobertson5892 Ай бұрын
@@HT008and Haaland throwing a ball at Gabriel’s head? Also the second yellow on trossard was bs there was less than a second between when he blew the whistle blew and he kicked the ball
@HT008
@HT008 Ай бұрын
@@zavierrobertson5892 You think trossard doesnt know what hes doing? lmao he knows exactly what hes playing it. He wouldnt have smacked it otherwise when literally side footing the ball to martanelli was there! Haaland should have been booked for that but its in the midst of the goal and no one even sees it first time off or even complains about it. He should have got a yellow for his barge on saliba early on for sure tho. You get some and you dont thats football. Ben white smacked the ball at mcguinns face the previous week and i bet you were loving that? or what about Odegaard was playing basketball at anfield last year and no arsenal fan was crying about that were they. Just move on, bunch of babies crying about the ref rather your stupid players fault!
@easynowoldchap04
@easynowoldchap04 Ай бұрын
You mean the ref that brought walker out of position for arsenals first goal , it's a draw move on to the next game
@zavierrobertson5892
@zavierrobertson5892 Ай бұрын
@@easynowoldchap04 the ref also had saka out of position for starting the restart so quickly and that along with where they took it was bs I’ll give u that, but it was there cause bernado brought it there and got no card for it, plus the ref didn’t bring him out of position, he just was from it starting too quickly and with no whistle, however taking a free kick with no whistle off a restart like that is fairly common and not on the ref
@TomDeLaCruz
@TomDeLaCruz Ай бұрын
Oliver is on Man City’s payroll everyone knows that
@aaronclarke4308
@aaronclarke4308 Ай бұрын
'start with impartiality' as he sends to chelsea fans lol
@joshtannis
@joshtannis Ай бұрын
Occam's razor = corruption
@mikey4483
@mikey4483 Ай бұрын
I honestly believe, cause Rodri got Injured when city were 1-0 up. Then Arsenal got right back into it and scored 2, That Michael Oliver thought Arsenal have to much advantage here and thought I need to even this up. For me it’s never a second yellow and never a red but Oliver couldn’t wait to get red card out and ruin the game.
@richardj2216
@richardj2216 Ай бұрын
The Arsenal boy reminds me of the saying “never argue with an idiot, he’ll bring you down to his level and beat you on experience”
@TheAbabab77
@TheAbabab77 Ай бұрын
We won't argue with you then champ
@richardj2216
@richardj2216 Ай бұрын
Funny
@Wolf-1211
@Wolf-1211 Ай бұрын
@@richardj2216literally what has he said that has made you have that response? He’s been very responsible, stop just being a hater
@richardj2216
@richardj2216 Ай бұрын
@@Wolf-1211 ok maybe the poor lad just got a bit too excitable
@martinoneill5274
@martinoneill5274 Ай бұрын
I've got to say it. This is the most well structured and sensible convo on the City Arsenal 2-2 I've seen online. As an Arsenal fan naturally I'm disappointed to not take 3 points but stepping out of that for a second I'll say we all just want entertaining football matches and show the world the Prem is the best league in the world. 22 players were on the field who want to 'kill' each other and it was a great watch - we were robbed of this by officials, let them fly. 22:46 this is the truth. Well said
@Blueshido72
@Blueshido72 Ай бұрын
You’re not sure if City can “outfight” this Arsenal team? City have outfought a Liverpool team on a completely different level to this Arsenal team for years. Let alone teams like Real Madrid in the CL.
@corybrown416
@corybrown416 Ай бұрын
You think you can win forever, you’re going to lose a title at some point, it’s just a fact!
@TotalllFootball
@TotalllFootball Ай бұрын
​@@corybrown416 not really, it's more of your opinion.... what you hope will happen
@corybrown416
@corybrown416 Ай бұрын
@@TotalllFootball No, it’s fact, there’s not a team in the history of English football that has ever continually won a trophy more a less a title year after year. It’s not hope, it’s basic common sense for anyone with an ounce of logic! 😂
@TotalllFootball
@TotalllFootball Ай бұрын
@@corybrown416 what you hope for is that the next winner will be arsenal... you'll have to wait for another 20 years😂
@madgamer44x
@madgamer44x Ай бұрын
City are not that team anymore. Granted, Haaland is scary but no doubt in my mind the centurians destroy this City
@iispezza1792
@iispezza1792 Ай бұрын
Why is everyone arguing"my players shouldn't have to obey the rules because it's a big game!". The rules are the rules, and Trossards original challenge was basically a yellow anyway. Also, sky measured the time between the whistle and the kick through a mic seemingly far out, meaning Trossard actually had more time than reported. Also he KNEW it was a foul, so he would've been expecting the whistle anyway. I don't believe for a second he didn't hear the whistle. Those are deafening and he was right next to him
@mikeymike1666
@mikeymike1666 Ай бұрын
For the record Havertz didn’t go through Rodri. Rodri saw him coming and stepped back into him, looked at the ref to make sure he saw it and went down trying to get Havertz sent off
@jamesomara3361
@jamesomara3361 Ай бұрын
"in which he was petulant" Trossard was not kicking the ball away, he looks up and spots Martinelli making a run and he's playing him through. That whole incident was allowed because Oliver delayed his whistle and by the time he blew it, Trossard was getting on with it.
@AFCbirmsy
@AFCbirmsy Ай бұрын
This was a really good discussion. It's good see that fans of a number of clubs are in relative agreement. Just a lot of things with the officials that feels needless. But more so, fans were robbed of what lined up to be one of the best half's of football we've seen for a long time.
@Secretninja98
@Secretninja98 Ай бұрын
Im 7 minutes in and this was such a refreshing POV on the game from the boys. Regardless of peoples opinions, this rivalry is great for the game. I agree its been pretty sterile in the past few years. Its outsider fans (Not City or Arsenal) making a bigger deal about it.
@Prince-qr1te
@Prince-qr1te Ай бұрын
If Trossard fouls Silva, kicks the ball away and gets away with both and City lose the game, you still have all this noise in a different way. Not sure what people expect of the ref. Get over it
@josuem7398
@josuem7398 Ай бұрын
Football is a physical game no way that is ever a foul it was a 50/50 ball
@ayaanlatif2296
@ayaanlatif2296 Ай бұрын
@@josuem7398it was a foul be for real😂😂 that being said he wasn’t yellow carded for the foul he was given the 2nd yellow for being an idiot and kicking the ball
@JoshAFC
@JoshAFC Ай бұрын
I expect the referee to remember his job is to manage games and make them a better spectacle not randomly ruin them over minor incidents. Just give a warning a move on. Or even just blow for half time (then or any time in the 2 extra minutes he pulled from nowhere) and don't give yourself a decision to make in the first place. That was a brilliant game of football and the referees as usual made themselves the headlines.
@brianbates212
@brianbates212 Ай бұрын
@@JoshAFC No, his job is to enforce the laws of the game. Plain and simple, don't break the rules and you won't have a problem...
@E.P_2489
@E.P_2489 Ай бұрын
Oh shut up ya muppet
@reeseprince8
@reeseprince8 Ай бұрын
Walker having ago at ref about the freekick taken quickly is his fault for not getting back if that was Sunday football that's just poor play
@akari2378
@akari2378 Ай бұрын
Pep's reaction says it all. He screams at Walker, not at the ref.
@Wolf-1211
@Wolf-1211 Ай бұрын
To the people complaining about the studio, I do understand. But, the content is still very good, yes aesthetically is suffers a little bit and if you sit and have your lunch or your breakfast and watch it rather than just listen, I get it. The content is still good though, the conversation is still entertaining and the lads get on well and have a laugh. Remember, the studio might be renovated or sold or whatever. Brian doesn’t have to sit and have a big explanation. If it comes back then cool, if not then fine.
@bannnnner
@bannnnner Ай бұрын
Not all delaying kick-offs have been equally punished...and i get that. But I'm SO happy refs have clamped down on players delaying restarts/kicking it away. Fans that have paid the ticket price deserve more than 58mins of competitive football per game
@kino6395
@kino6395 Ай бұрын
What should happen if Mo Salah kicks the ball 4 feet away but gets kicked in the process?
@stevieg3161
@stevieg3161 Ай бұрын
@@kino6395 yellow card Salah red card for the person who kicks him. It’s not hard
@mondemdluli9
@mondemdluli9 Ай бұрын
Arsenal will win the league by a point, 5 - 2 - -1 That ref has never sent off a City player but has sent off 7 Arsenal players 6 players gave interviews shading Arsenal 115 Charges They're rattled i tell you 😅
@blue_red_screen
@blue_red_screen Ай бұрын
Rattled by the serial bottlers?
@mondemdluli9
@mondemdluli9 Ай бұрын
@@blue_red_screen If you're City shut up you have more relegation than league titles If you're Spurs go smoke the dust from your trophy cabinet
@blue_red_screen
@blue_red_screen Ай бұрын
@@mondemdluli9 don't support either. But you are serial bottlers with a massively inflated ego
@blue_red_screen
@blue_red_screen Ай бұрын
@@mondemdluli9 don't support either. But arsenal are serial bottlers with a massively inflated ego
@blue_red_screen
@blue_red_screen Ай бұрын
@@mondemdluli9 can't handle the truth of being serial bottlers? Don't support either btw
@_surreal99
@_surreal99 Ай бұрын
Pep just can't handle Busses filled with quality Defenders. Ancelotti saw this when he realized you can't play attacking ping pong against City. This ref is being deliberately picked because he has a style of regeering that affects games.
@Growly.
@Growly. Ай бұрын
Yup. Trossard was making a pass just at the same time the whistle went. Absolutely no intention to delay time... also Haaland wasn't punished for deliberately throwing hte ball in the back of the head of Gabriel
@ayaanlatif2296
@ayaanlatif2296 Ай бұрын
Trossard was making a pass?😂😂😂 it’s okay to admit your player was an idiot
@nathanbowles2811
@nathanbowles2811 Ай бұрын
Trossard should get more blame here. Needless foul (which on it's own could've been yellow) when he is already on a yellow, his team are 2-1 up and City were not in a position to score, stupid decision and possibly cost his team 3 points.
@akari2378
@akari2378 Ай бұрын
I'm an Arsenal fan, and have no sympathy for Trossard. Same way I didn't have any for Rice against Brighton. Both players deserve criticism, but so do the refs for not applying the rule with any consistency.
@nathanbowles2811
@nathanbowles2811 Ай бұрын
@@akari2378 I think the rule itself is the issue, as it is a rule with such a big grey area that you could argue for and against every card given using it. I don't get why they made this new rule, as I feel they're just making the refs lives difficult in an area that was never a big problem in the game.
@akari2378
@akari2378 Ай бұрын
@@nathanbowles2811 Massive grey area. Common sense needs to be used. There are some instances when there is a dangerous counter attack on and the player stops the restart, those definitely need to be yellows. Same if it's way past the whistle, or if the player is over aggressive. Save it for special situations, or scrap it completely. You can't ignore it twice and then 20 minutes later give a player a second yellow for it.
@ezper_
@ezper_ Ай бұрын
I mean city right now is not at its strongest, the defense needs work since last season tbh. Foden needs to start working again. And gundogan is still missing chances. B. Silva is not that good atm. There is still a lot of missing pieces in man city that are not working well yet imo. And guardiola defo needs to change up histactics against lowblocks
@DavidRegaL-lw5xz
@DavidRegaL-lw5xz Ай бұрын
Another year of City are weak narrative but come May everyone blames 115 and go to bed..lol
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere Ай бұрын
the problem with that argument is that City even when they're apparently under performing, they continue to pick up points. When it comes to the crunch they step up a gear and blow everyone away. Fergie was never too concerned about a slow start in the league, what wins it is at the turn of the year when you just keep winning. City have got that about them
@aiyaanoneed9402
@aiyaanoneed9402 Ай бұрын
Arsenal are not at their strongest either
@Growly.
@Growly. Ай бұрын
I love wenger and I think he was better than Sir rednose, but another thing he was not great at was picking keepers... after Seaman Goalkeeping was a weakness we had. Admitting i don't know this and getting someone else to make the decisions for that bit is just smart and professional.
@CircumcisedUnicorn
@CircumcisedUnicorn Ай бұрын
He didn’t win a CL so How is he better than SAF? Make it make sense 🙄
@leondavis8267
@leondavis8267 Ай бұрын
Jens the German
@Growly.
@Growly. Ай бұрын
@@leondavis8267 He was ok, but not on the level of Seaman or Ramsdale/raya
@Growly.
@Growly. Ай бұрын
@@CircumcisedUnicorn wewll when one guy can spend 500 million and another guy can spend 5 and get nearly the same r esults... he's better
@roberttredgett9815
@roberttredgett9815 Ай бұрын
City’s record against the traditional top 6 last season was awful though, they won 3 games, drew 6 of them and lost 1 (against Arsenal) they still won the league though so taking points off each other is not essential Also joey mentioned Arsenals final couple of games for this season and last season was similar, they had to play spurs, united, Chelsea, Brighton they beat them all and conceded 2 goals
@ciaranoconnell4783
@ciaranoconnell4783 Ай бұрын
Arsenal's end to this season is far, far easier compared to last season. Last season, they had Spurs, Villa, Utd, City, Brighton, in their last 10 games. This season it's only Liverpool.
@jamie_sg
@jamie_sg Ай бұрын
A great way to make an unbiased podcast is grouping together four people who hate City
@blue_red_screen
@blue_red_screen Ай бұрын
Whole league is jealous of city
@russellbarclay907
@russellbarclay907 Ай бұрын
He was not trying to feed Martinelli, his passing is way better than what he did. He kicked it away pure and simple knowing he was already on a yellow and Rice had already been sent off for the same offence
@Growly.
@Growly. Ай бұрын
10% is massive... since points tend to get clost to or even above 100.. that's 10 points lost. that not only can lose you the tiltle, but bring you down to third or fourth
@zvonimirdragun7813
@zvonimirdragun7813 Ай бұрын
good to see you lads, missing your live studio shows
@stevehowells5788
@stevehowells5788 Ай бұрын
sick of this city equalised in the 99th minute rubbish. it was literally 14 seconds after the 7minutes added on so where on earth are you getting the extra minute and a half delay at? if you wanna be professional at this then at least speak facts
@linimcfc715
@linimcfc715 Ай бұрын
Timber was on his arse for 90 seconds at the beginning of added time
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall Ай бұрын
@@linimcfc715 Raya took half a minute on every goal kick lol
@bannnnner
@bannnnner Ай бұрын
Raya laying on the floor with gunner defenders taking their turns to slap him on the back might have been the reason
@stevehowells5788
@stevehowells5788 Ай бұрын
@@bannnnner i know, I'm literally saying arsenal fans are claiming the goal happened in the 99th minute and it was 97:14 (14 seconds after the allotted time). i get that city do tend to get favourable decisions at times but complaining about something that is factually incorrect annoys me lol
@salamandress
@salamandress Ай бұрын
Yeah even as an arsenal fan, I'm only mad at us for conceding st the end. I think the boys lost focus and let them have too much space on the corner. Our fault completely. Not the refs.
@matthewhedge2893
@matthewhedge2893 Ай бұрын
How can you compare Doku passing the ball back to where the free kick was meant to be taken because the Ref asked him to to Trossard bundling someone over in the air then petulantly punting the ball away
@alejandrofuentes5865
@alejandrofuentes5865 Ай бұрын
Dude's mindblowing argument: If you win games you get points. If you get more points than city you win. Oh my god, never thought about that!! Great strategist!
@unknownapproach9410
@unknownapproach9410 Ай бұрын
The arsenal fan saying we want “blood and thunder” and complaining for months that Joelinton fouled Gabriel and Newcastle “stole a win” is just hilarious!
@hippopotumaswonder
@hippopotumaswonder Ай бұрын
I think its completely fair to say we want the intensity/shithousery of the prem back, while also thinking clear and obvious fouls should be called lmao
@stevieg3161
@stevieg3161 Ай бұрын
@@hippopotumaswonderyou lot are the ones complaining at Haalands shithousery in the same game ffs
@hippopotumaswonder
@hippopotumaswonder Ай бұрын
@@stevieg3161 I honestly haven't seen many arsenal fans that care about that tbh, it was more funny than anything and fuels the rivalry
@RsDv5
@RsDv5 Ай бұрын
That doesn’t correlate at all. That Newcastle game cost Arsenal points which would’ve seen them pick the title up. That’s the point, it’s the consistency, no other team has had more apologies due to poor refereeing than Arsenal. Such a dense comment
@TheAbabab77
@TheAbabab77 Ай бұрын
Lol Arsenal evidently live rent free in your head with this embarrassing comment 😂
@jamesomara3361
@jamesomara3361 Ай бұрын
In defense of Walker on the Gabriel goal, what exactly is he supposed to do when the delivery from Saka is that spot on? He's never getting higher up than big Gab is. He's at a disadvantage because he's backpedaling where Gabriel is attacking space. That goal has almost nothing to do with Kyle Walker IMO. I think he can maybe try to block Gab's run with his body but then you're risking giving away a penalty and it's hard for him to block Gab anyway because he's so much weaker (not a dig at him, almost every player on the pitch is weaker than Gabriel).
@ShaunLevett
@ShaunLevett Ай бұрын
The ball was in play for so long in the second half because Arsenal just sat there. When they did have the chance they all mysteriously got cramp, even though they basically camped their own box and didn't move for 45mins. They did what they had to do so fair enough, but it's highly likely they'd have played the second half like this regardless of the sending off. They still seem to have too much respect for City. It was pure Mourinho.
@mikey4483
@mikey4483 Ай бұрын
Saka can just put that corner exactly where he wants, to the inch. It’s mad. Never seen that done so consistently….. Consistency, I better not start about consistency. Saka’s consistent from corners, I’ll leave it at that.
@paulkroczek4524
@paulkroczek4524 Ай бұрын
should book the VAR for delaying the restart of play
@MRCL-190
@MRCL-190 Ай бұрын
For me, Arsenal only win the league if they do a Liverpool and are too far gone before City click into gear
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall Ай бұрын
That Liverpool dropped points once in 27 games, Arsenal have already dropped points twice in 5 games
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere Ай бұрын
or a city points deduction
@lmostayoutuber
@lmostayoutuber Ай бұрын
Can't see it happening Arsenal don't seem to have that creative spark to break down teams now that Odegaard is injured
@hamzaesat4085
@hamzaesat4085 Ай бұрын
@@Duval-In-The-Wallarsenal dropped it to a bs red card at Brighton where they were cruising, and a lucky last minute equaliser at the etihad. They’ve also played and won at Villa and Spurs AWAY in that time. Whereas Liverpool dropped it to Forest, at home.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall Ай бұрын
@@hamzaesat4085 I was talking about Liverpool 19/20, which was the reference. They drew 1-1 at United and that was it
@scatterthewinds3126
@scatterthewinds3126 Ай бұрын
These two teams have turned this fixture into a genuine fight.
@hex4292
@hex4292 Ай бұрын
You cant moan about saka being out of position when its his team taking the bloody free kick
@ExdReliable
@ExdReliable Ай бұрын
Apart from the football, can someone tell me if the lumen sponsor really works
@mikey4483
@mikey4483 Ай бұрын
This new rules are killing our games.
@chikeonyeka3334
@chikeonyeka3334 Ай бұрын
The amount of swear words in this video can last me for 10 decades
@zakilfaraone
@zakilfaraone Ай бұрын
14:09 Not true! The goal was scored at 97:15 just seconds before the commentator confirmed he received news the game will go onto minimum the 99th minute 🤷‍♂️
@ralphyz2437
@ralphyz2437 Ай бұрын
Laughing at a player’s injury shows Gordie’s lack of character.
@jamesgallogley1024
@jamesgallogley1024 Ай бұрын
These guys give liverpool no respect anymore.
@JohnWonder00
@JohnWonder00 Ай бұрын
And it’s crazy because Liverpool were acc winning other titles while competing for the league and won the league and Arsenal have won fuck all 😂😂
@E.P_2489
@E.P_2489 Ай бұрын
​@@JohnWonder00they were city's boyfriends
@vishs8340
@vishs8340 Ай бұрын
​@E.P_2489 does that make Arsenal City's b*tch?
@mikey4483
@mikey4483 Ай бұрын
Omg listening to this is so refreshing. After all u here from the main stream is Trossards a silly boy, let his team down. As it happened that exactly what I was shouting at my TV….. he’s not kicking the ball away, he’s trying to play on.
@stevenjohnson7442
@stevenjohnson7442 Ай бұрын
Oh for goodness sakes! Just let it go. The game finished in a draw... game done! Such a bunch of foul mouth presenters.
@pauldowney4280
@pauldowney4280 Ай бұрын
Why are you not talking about city finding the EPL guilty of unlawful rules and arsenal demanding the rule change 5 days after Newcastle take over.
@rogercorreia6292
@rogercorreia6292 Ай бұрын
You guys flip flop. When Kyle walker not given enough time to get back in position and then claiming that slowing down the taking of a free kick doesn’t make a difference. Which one is it boys? I do think that the rule either needs to be applied all the time or not at all.
@terryshiels1419
@terryshiels1419 Ай бұрын
Arsenal fans and velcro head were crying like babies that Newcastle were wasting time, but now after that display they've become the worst team in the league for time wasting and shithousery.
@godlovesyou1995
@godlovesyou1995 Ай бұрын
The ball was in play for more than any other game this season. Bro's just imagining things 💀
@adtastic1533
@adtastic1533 Ай бұрын
Wasting time? It was the highest ball in play game this season. That Newcastle game was the lowest. Next time bring some facts to your trolling. It works better than that F grade effort.
@Chandaz--2407
@Chandaz--2407 Ай бұрын
​@@Duval-In-The-WallDown to 10 men away from home...at the etihad...against potentially the greatest striker the premier league will ever see and the best manager in prem history...stoke?? Thats all you got?? Absolute waffle
@helicoptersrkool
@helicoptersrkool Ай бұрын
@@Duval-In-The-Wall Yet your team will happily open your legs and get pumped 3-6 times at the Etihad. Arsenal used to do this, rivals loved it. Now rivals cry because City suddenly can't beat Arsenal and hold only just hold on with the last kick of the game. If your team ever go down to 10 men there, you better lead by example and win by attacking City. If you drop deep then you're a hypocrite. Show the world how to beat man city on their ground with 10 men while playing attacking football. 😉
@miniman2132
@miniman2132 Ай бұрын
Fun fact, in the second half of Arsenal/City the ball was in play for longer than any other half of football this season.
@andyh366
@andyh366 Ай бұрын
Answer is No.
@casre161
@casre161 Ай бұрын
As an arsenal fan, this guy has said everything we feel in this video. I salute you brother
@alansmith4655
@alansmith4655 Ай бұрын
The 2nd yellow Trossard got ridiculous. Just tell him to cop and get on with it. Speak to the captain, tell him to relay the msg about petulance.
@snaggiz
@snaggiz Ай бұрын
Yeah, he could’ve very easily just said: “listen, you’re on a yellow, consider this your final chance.” Then just gotten on with the game but he saw an opportunity to get into the center of attention and boy do English refs love the attention
@bannnnner
@bannnnner Ай бұрын
No consistency I get but it's been clear that it's a yellow. Punished players need to stop whinging about getting it and instead complain about the ones they miss. For a neutral I am SO happy they we don't have to watch players kick the ball away and waste us viewers time and money
@akari2378
@akari2378 Ай бұрын
@@bannnnner It's not been clear it's a yellow, it's more common this season for players not to be booked for delaying the restart. No sympathy for Trossard, but let's not pretend refs are consistent on this rule. I can think of 5 off the top of my head that weren't punished with a yellow. Has to be a yellow every time, or never.
@bannnnner
@bannnnner Ай бұрын
@akari2378 literally said "no consistency" and then you say "let's not kid ourselves there's no consistency"??? But yeah not all caught, but many have been punished. A bit like all crimes eh
@akari2378
@akari2378 Ай бұрын
@@bannnnner Your wording was a bit confusing, sorry. I get what you meant now. The incidents that i've seen go unpunished, were all clearly seen by the refs. I actually think those decisions were correct too. Pedro shouldn't be booked, neither should Doku or the United player who threw the ball away against Liverpool. Just get on with the game.
@andyturner7039
@andyturner7039 Ай бұрын
That win percentage without Rodri in the team this season prior to the AFC game is 100%. What’s these whoppers talking about? 😂
@AMC11329
@AMC11329 Ай бұрын
Trossard sending off was valid Arsenal played incredibly well to not lose that game and city were off it massively
@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051
@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051 Ай бұрын
This arsenal guy thinks arsenal has a chance to win the league. End of season will be sad for him when City lifts it again.
@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051
@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051 Ай бұрын
@willisassounga1963 it's always the same story bro. You get high this time of season. Have hope that you will win the league. But come May you will say we will win next season. You are moving in circles bro it won't change.
@official_t5425
@official_t5425 Ай бұрын
Arsenal have a chance to win the league, ur a fool to think they’ve got 0% chance of winning it
@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051
@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051 Ай бұрын
@official_t5425 they always have a chance bro and they always had for the past 20 years. And they will for next how many years I don't know. But this season city will win it.
@FatumaMfaki
@FatumaMfaki Ай бұрын
​@@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051why are you bitter man is it bad to compete and is it only arsenal in the premier league you are first now we are 4th why not talk of villa and Liverpool let us be either we win or not that's our problem
@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051
@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051 Ай бұрын
@@FatumaMfaki bitter of what?
@sikhom3561
@sikhom3561 Ай бұрын
He clearly kicked the ball away after clattering into Silva. I don't get why you guys are justifying it
@reeswarren4329
@reeswarren4329 Ай бұрын
Did he say City Pool bromance You mad We actually managed to win a league title And a CL and got robbed various times against the scum city We can’t stand them either Sorry that we take the game to the etihad and Won on more than one occasion
@Airyed
@Airyed Ай бұрын
You got robbed by Arsenal too Odegard handball
@thefootydave639
@thefootydave639 Ай бұрын
Spot on. The idea that we somehow weren't rivals or respected each other too much because we weren't physically fighting all the time and instead playing some of the best football the Prem has ever seen is hilarious. Can't stand City, they've tortured us enough, but some of these Arsenal fans that are acting like everything's against them and everyone's on City's side and no other team has had to fight so hard are complete hypocrites - we remember how they (and pretty much everyone else) wanted us to lose the title and for City to "save football".
@rogercorreia6292
@rogercorreia6292 Ай бұрын
40 min because of VAR pls bud do me a favour. Just because you say something doesn’t make it true
@oishB
@oishB Ай бұрын
Don't get the idea that City are physically scared of Arsenal. He compared Rice to Bernardo etc but you could also compare Saka or Trossard to any of Gvardiol, Stones, Akanji, Dias, Rodri, etc both teams are predominantly big sides with a couple of smaller players, Peps city is nothing like Peps Barca in terms of height
@liamanderson6191
@liamanderson6191 Ай бұрын
Why can’t people accept he made 2 fouls after his card and kicked the fuckin ball away
@Jay08206
@Jay08206 Ай бұрын
laughing about one of the best players in his position tearing his acl weeks before he complains about too many games is just so low
@scatterthewinds3126
@scatterthewinds3126 Ай бұрын
you're a buffoon if you think he was laughing at the player's misfortune instead of the very next phrase - an inference even a toddler would make.
@milindnilekani2676
@milindnilekani2676 Ай бұрын
As an Arsenal fan, I hate Arsenal fans who celebrate injuries. But tbf Rodri also tried breaking Odegaard's ankle in a Spain v Norway match in the title run in last year. And City fans were mocking Odegaards injury. So he is not some angel
@leondavis8267
@leondavis8267 Ай бұрын
He walks with a limp
@Jay08206
@Jay08206 Ай бұрын
@@milindnilekani2676 i get theres a few bad apples with every tree my point is tho these guys are on a channel with 400k subs this is their "job" so to speak dont you think you should be abit more professional
@luq369
@luq369 Ай бұрын
guys... i was waiting for u guys for ages after the game
@samfab9483
@samfab9483 Ай бұрын
Great insights & football knowledge from all of them.
@nathanarelisky4545
@nathanarelisky4545 Ай бұрын
That Arsenal supporter is preaching facts...
@alexhaynes7220
@alexhaynes7220 Ай бұрын
Walker did not run back at all
@D2trippy610
@D2trippy610 Ай бұрын
Yap yap yap Liverpool are winning the league mate ✌🏾
@jack_attack
@jack_attack Ай бұрын
Raya probably had the ball in his hands for a good 10+ minutes in that second half 🤣
@monsterforge1763
@monsterforge1763 Ай бұрын
Cross to Martenelli? The ball went 20yds behind him, and took out the bloke in row 7 of Block 303 who was troughing his Chicken Balti pie and Ashai! 🤣🤣🤣
@joekistler3777
@joekistler3777 Ай бұрын
Arsenal fans are a joke man
@LuanDeJager
@LuanDeJager Ай бұрын
Watch the game again, ball lands about 5m ahead of Nelli who stopped running while it was in the air It lands in field and with pace Martinelli could of gotten it
@Producerji1
@Producerji1 Ай бұрын
City is scared and rattled of Arsenal is a willllllllld take lol. City vs Arsenal W13 D4 L3. Willllllld take.
@PatrickCassidy-km8gh
@PatrickCassidy-km8gh Ай бұрын
and have won 6 of the last 7 PL titles yet they're a bunch of cry babies
@unknownllama9833
@unknownllama9833 Ай бұрын
city havent beaten arsenal in the past 4 games
@paulchika4121
@paulchika4121 Ай бұрын
​@@PatrickCassidy-km8ghits challenges..teams are scared of City. Arsenal isnt
@Producerji1
@Producerji1 Ай бұрын
@unknownllama9833 well maybe Arsenal should be stepping it up. Not losing to City sure isn't winning them anything besides making them and Arsenal fans feel like they did something spectacular. Arsenal arnt beating City very often either. Prior to 2023 Arsenal were on a 12 game losing streak and honestly that goal was a bit lucky. If anyone is rattled it's Arsenals coach saying, he saw what City do when you go head to head. That 2023 beating at the Etihad changed his whole coaching.
@Producerji1
@Producerji1 Ай бұрын
@@paulchika4121 how can you say Arsenal isn't scared of City when their coach says he is?
@wagie95
@wagie95 Ай бұрын
Short answer, yes.
@xkumanekox
@xkumanekox Ай бұрын
Citeh players were rattled throughout the match because they still thought this was Arsenal from 4 years ago. The future is now old man lol
@FlameOfAnor9
@FlameOfAnor9 Ай бұрын
Extra time is the minimum time. Timber was chilling for 2 minutes on the floor. Question, why is Arsenal fans carrying about like they already won the league ?
@Nezzie96
@Nezzie96 Ай бұрын
As an arsenal it was a well played game no complaints tbh
@raytanner4138
@raytanner4138 Ай бұрын
Which one of the two teams won the league in the "Battle of the bridge"
@fabrizioalzamora1465
@fabrizioalzamora1465 Ай бұрын
Why does True Geordie's head look like it's not attached to his body?
@Growly.
@Growly. Ай бұрын
As an Arsenal supporter it feels kinda funny,weird, wrong to say this, but the chelskij supporter in this video was quite reasonable, smart and dare i say even likeable...
@grandiosa86
@grandiosa86 Ай бұрын
No Hopkins. Arsenal fans is all over the social media crying, not City fans.
@E.P_2489
@E.P_2489 Ай бұрын
Stop lying
@grandiosa86
@grandiosa86 Ай бұрын
@@E.P_2489 stop being an ass
@X360PHILNUMBR1
@X360PHILNUMBR1 Ай бұрын
The few things I don't really agree with in the video is the Doku incident which it wasn't because Doku looked at the ref seeing where he was pointing to and he kicked it to where he wanted it and the ref dragging Walker away from his position after talking to him and making him literally sprint over and conceding a goal instead of waiting until Kyle was in his position and THEN blew his whistle and also people are whinging that Trossard was treated "unfairly" when he was sent off... No he wasn't, he smashed into the back of Silva and then BOOTED the ball away WHILE on a YELLOW card... THAT'S A RED. All day everyday. As far as "CITY FEAR ARSENAL!!!"... No.. Do we have a sense of "Oh... They've come to fight for the league, have they? Come on then..." yes. Yes I do.
@alarrim29574
@alarrim29574 Ай бұрын
I don’t think toward shoulda got that second yellow for kicking that ball, but I do think he shoulda got that second yellow for the foul he committed just before he kicked that ball. Right decision wrong reason
@kayceee6770
@kayceee6770 Ай бұрын
@@alarrim29574 The ref was letting all of the checking go, he would have been let it go for Trossard (even when he blatantly went for player) the real issue is Trossard knew he committed the foul then surprised it was called so booted the ball in the air. He committed 2 wrongs back to back. Chelsea's game against Place, Jackson got a yellow for kicking the ball into the net past the whistle, so Arsenal whining about it doesn't make any sense. They even got favourable decisions like the block by Martinelli on Ederson, he only intended to stop the keep but they got away with it and scored the goal. For whatever season Arsenal in their siege mentality don't let things go and stay calm during the game. 2 times they've gotten sent of for the same thing yet aren't any bit more careful.
@garethjenkins6273
@garethjenkins6273 Ай бұрын
So you are all saying that only City should feel aggrieved by the decisions in the game????? Trossard was sent off for kicking the ball away, not the barge. It was timed at 0.8 seconds between the whistle being blown and Trossard kicking the ball away. He was sent off by Michael Oliver, the same Michael Oliver who last week didn't give Szoboszlai a second yellow for kicking the ball away. The same Michael Oliver who didn't send Kovacic off last season for two clear yellows - possibly reds - because he didn't want to ruin the game. Strangely, he couldn't wait to ruin the game on Sunday. City fans should also feel aggrieved that Gabriel wasn't booked for heading the ball away when Haaland through it at his head. We can skip over the fact that Haaland should have been sent off for violent conduct.
@garethjenkins6273
@garethjenkins6273 Ай бұрын
Threw...
@alexburrows2835
@alexburrows2835 Ай бұрын
Not a footballing brain between them
@reecejones3187
@reecejones3187 Ай бұрын
Refs shouldn’t compound mistakes. He made a mistake not booking Doku, doesn’t then mean he shouldn’t book Trossard. Definite booking he’s been stupid.
@jacobs3722
@jacobs3722 Ай бұрын
So you're basically saying they can pick and choose
@reecejones3187
@reecejones3187 Ай бұрын
@@jacobs3722 no I’m saying they shouldn’t make mistakes full stop. But if they do make one, they shouldn’t then try to even it out by making another mistake on purpose. Yes Doku should have been booked and it’s a mistake he wasn’t. Yes Trossard should have been booked and rightly was. Refs are there to apply rules not to try and even the mistakes out
@reecejones3187
@reecejones3187 Ай бұрын
@@jacobs3722 I’m not sure how you even come to the conclusion that I’m saying they can pick and choose, that’s not even close to what I said
@jacobs3722
@jacobs3722 Ай бұрын
@@reecejones3187 these mistakes are quite consistent don't u think
@reecejones3187
@reecejones3187 Ай бұрын
@@jacobs3722 but just to be clear it wasn’t a mistake to send him off. Blatant petulance. If not why else would he just smash the ball away like that? He would pass it if he though the ball was live still not just hoof it away. Again yes Doku should have been booked too but that doesn’t change the fact that the sending off was spot on.
@ricklee7732
@ricklee7732 Ай бұрын
Great show. Great chat.
@garfieldjohnson7034
@garfieldjohnson7034 Ай бұрын
the commentator called it early
@alarrim29574
@alarrim29574 Ай бұрын
Personally I think toward shoulda been sent off for the foul he committed cuz that’s a yellow imo, but if the ref didn’t agree that’s fine but a yellow for that kicking the ball away nonsense is a joke. Right result wrong reason imo
@garethparry6673
@garethparry6673 Ай бұрын
CHO got a yellow card for doing what rice did, not one complaints from Forest, not one mention of it in the media, no the PGMOL is a disgrace but every team is so desperate to stop City winning the league they believe Arsenal should have special rules🤷‍♂️. Where was the complaining about Timber v Spurs who should have got sent off for 2 yellows🤷‍♂️
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