Debunking Dalek weaknesses

[@Special_Weapons_Dalek]

I'd just like to point out that from the start, I had none of these weaknesses, I can level buildings in a single blast, I don't rely on an eyestalk for sight, and I'm heavier than the Doctor's ego

[@OptimysticPessimyst]

It’s about damn time you were updated and returned to the field of battle oh great one

[@Special_Weapons_Dalek]

@@OptimysticPessimyst You can't improve on perfection, primitive aviation craft

[@slickeddie4121]

OMG, Hello. Im so glad you made it to the Dalek KZbin community

[@Siberiancatsrule]

Heavier than the Doctor's ego? Impossible! It's been scientifically proven that there's nothing in the entire multiverse that is heavier than the Doctor's ego!

[@rayvenkman2087]

@@SiberiancatsruleExcept for Ken Penders’.

[@TheNickofTime]

To be fair, the 'throw a sheet over it' one isn't as ridiculous as it seems when you consider how this was actually shown to succesfully defeat a Dalek in one of the Peter Cushing movies, so you can't blame people for absorbing it into their zeitgeist. Bernard Cribbins is being menaced by a Dalek, someone tosses a sheet on it, and then it just kind of sits there not knowing what to do while he escapes.

[@OptimysticPessimyst]

Daleks = Crocodiles in the Cushing world

[@HoraceAndTheSpider]

Are there any of examples of this in the TV canon?

[@thegman-bc1ry]

​@@HoraceAndTheSpider evil of the daleks, sort of. The sheet blinds it for a few seconds,but then it shakes it off

[@Phoenix2312]

The Sheet one is actually not so far fetched but it would not take a Dalek Long to remove it... And The Dalek Shields are "Kinetic Shields" - They are meant for stopping, destroying and dissipating energy from incoming "Ballistic / Energy Type" weapons... So would NOT affect a sheet!

[@btf_flotsam478]

@@HoraceAndTheSpider The Fourth Doctor at one point blinded one with his hat, and also managed to evade a Dalek by grabbing hold of its back. (Maybe it was an early prototype?)

[@minicle426]

6: Hiding behind the sofa does not provide adequate protection from Daleks. :P

[@swiftbird4846]

I think if the Doctor's efforts are anything to go by, the most effective way to defeat a Dalek is to outsmart it. Brilliant as ever.

[@PerovNigma]

I remember someone in _Prisoner of the Daleks_ hiding underneath one and shooting it as it hovered, because the shield didn't or couldn't cover its thrusters below.

[@somberdoc]

You failed to mention the only 100% effective method to beat a Dalek, A small woman with a baseball bat.

[@SiskaweshKsutaraden]

Or why not throwing them straight into a 100 million times bigger star and/or black hole, than our very own planet?

[@orion6926]

Who are you calling small?

[@OptimysticPessimyst]

I think we need to find a new weakness for a Dalek similar to (but slightly less ridiculous than) gold for the classic Cybermen. Like imagine if something could specifically react with Dalekanium like an acid or another metal powder that could be small enough to penetrate the shield. Or better yet, what if there was a creature whose genetic makeup was a natural antithesis to Dalek shield design, Dalekanium or even the Dalek creature itself similar to how people are allergic to cats, dogs etc. Just this week I came up with a story based on the premise of “what if the Daleks were delicious” in that either humans discovered that the many mutations of the Dalek creature has unintentionally turned into a super food like no other that reduces the demand on cattle and farming. Or what if there was a species that specifically saw Daleks as a delicacy and hunted them for that reason other than survival. What if there were a creature whose entire body structure had bones and muscles in a constant state of flux so that the Dalek death ray’s ability to scramble them was rendered inert… These are all options that I believe could and should be explored. They’re the most feared and unstoppable creatures in all of fiction and should be respectably beatable beyond the restrictions of production or the intelligence of the writer.

[@BEANBOYOBEANITH]

The Cybermen were weak to gold because their respirators couldn't filter them, due to the high malleability of gold. I don't think thats ridiculous, more so plausible that it would be a very real oversight, due to not everyone just carrying around gold, or even being strong enough to lift it.

[@crimsong8068]

Daleks in the classic series were weaker than in the new one, there were several times when basic human weaponry bested them. But in the new series, that was dispelled as early as "Dalek." (Which does neatly show how much they advanced.) One could argue a lack of weaknesses makes them a more serious threat (just like how Cybermen are now immune to gold,) but I do like the idea of a creature or substance that they are vulnerable to. Both sides have merit.

[@tichepotato7992]

The ultimate weakness of the Dalek race is the Joker. The wildcard. Whether this is the Doctor, or a race of Daleks from another universe, or an esoteric-beyond-belief Time Lord weapon, the Daleks are intrinsically an arrogant species, and a highly logical one. A force seeking to defeat the Daleks should seek to introduce unpredictable factors into the mix that the Daleks can't react to swiftly enough. In other words, Daleks are weak to macguffins.

[@DrillEntertainmentNetwork]

fried dalek calamari 😋😋

[@OptimysticPessimyst]

@@BEANBOYOBEANITH I’ll concede it’s a fine explanation but has no basis in real science so it’s ridiculous. Non-corrosive metals have no reaction to water or acids so how could that possibly affect a cyborg’s respiratory systems? And why gold? Why not Brass, Bronze, Steel (which the Cybermen are commonly made of…) etc? They chose gold purely for production purposes to the point where they eventually made it a comedic gag and eventually wrote it out knowing it was the right kind of silly (emphasis on the RIGHT kind and I don’t hate it at all, this is just thinking as a logical writer… a Logician of you will…)

[@newsreelhistory2237]

This channel finally got me to listen to some big finish to learn more. Currently listening to the I Davros series which is so dark and detailed. Although I laughed when it said Davros found a cure to cancer!

[@dalekbumps]

That's great to hear! Really glad you're enjoying the audios, it's probably my favourite format to experience Doctor Who. Many of my favourite stories are audios, like Jubilee, Davros, Master, Silver Turk, Order of the Daleks and most of the Eighth Doctor Adventures, there's some great stuff on audio

[@FactionParadox2090]

Really, really loving the Last Dalek background music, used to play that game so much as a kid, I miss those days.

[@xandergrogan2012]

And me, God I feel old

[@roundishcap]

I think the funniest thing to me is that people ignore how the dalek have some really strange time weapons, like what is anyone going to do against the would-have-been king and the army of meanwhiles and neverwheres or for that matter the nightmare child. Daleks aren't just space tanks, but each dalek is capable of exterminating all life in the universe on its own, albeit slowly. they can manipulate time and they never really die.

[@xandergrogan2012]

Wow! Starting the video with The Last Dalek music, that's nostalgia!

[@RealCelticGamer]

You forgot about throwing a rubber bath mat in-front of the advancing Dalek!

[@crimsong8068]

I understand where these "criticisms" came from, after all, Daleks are basically silly 60s sci-fi monsters that endured. At first glance, Daleks look silly, but once you get into the meat of most Dalek stories, you find that that are both cool and scary while they're on screen. These sound like criticisms from people who haven't seen much Doctor Who. I'm so sick of the "JuSt ClIMb ThE StAiRs" comments. Daleks when used right can be scary.

[@planes124]

3:00 OwO , but I just thought what about explosives mines like in Resurrection Of The Daleks the ship troopers mined the corridor and destroyed two daleks, then they retreated and then attacked using chemical agents. :3

[@Rampy470]

IRT the heat shield thing, to be fair it's another thing that seems to vary on the model of the Dalek. It's even shown in this video with the Fifth Doctor grappling with one. Unless I'm mistaken it seems to only be a thing on the Time War era models while before it their immunity to firepower was just that their metal was really fecking strong.

[@phantomstrangermedia]

I love Daleks & must confess to wincing every time this video showed a Dalek being hurt.

[@theevildalek5425]

Love the little animations

[@IAmPegasus]

In the first story 'The Daleks' at the end were seen to have been pulled/pushed over or the aftermath of this during the Thal attack on the city. In Dalek Invasion of Earth one Dalek was seen to be pulled over during the saucer attack and later one was seen at the end actually being carried by several people! Those mine workers were likely extra strong 😉 So pushing or pulling them over was not out of the question.

[@walterposs1212]

May I present a counter argument here - Those were considered early models in the Dalek timeline, perhaps the newer NSD designs are heavier due to their tank like nature?

[@MichelleW870]

@@walterposs1212 or they suck themselves down to the floor, as they are expressed to fly, so whos to say they cant just anchor down too?

[@MelancholyFM-Lain]

The Last dalek flash game music, Oh gawd you took me back 18 years ago, sneakly playing this game in school.

[@obsidianthegamingzorua116]

While yea the whole spinny mid section thing is like a coin flip if they will even use it or not, i could believe that the executioner daleks were stripped of this in favour of having more stability with their new weapon. I have nothing to really back this up, but i believe the daleks would be the kind of species to lock off one advantage in favour of another if it loked like it would help. I recall them also being able to turn off their eyestalk lights and that they didnt make much noise while moving (though i am probably just misremembering on that latter one. I'll have to rewatch the episode ti make sure) so maybe they was also built more for stealth, maybe they was the kind of daleks meant to hunt you down silently, only really letting you know they were there when they scream the iconic exterminate and by that point you really are already dead, especially so thanks to the rapid fire weapon.

[@nickthepick8043]

Ya know, sometimes, I have that rogue thought about being able to run around & triumph over a Dalek, but then videos like this show up to keep me humbled.

[@CalebHowlett]

My strategy is simple, throw a sheet over it then run up stairs then close the door, then run off as far as my feet could take me, my reason for the strategy is because it would take time for the dalek shield to burn the sheet, and by then I hope to be gone, and locking the door, the stairs is to delay it as although they are capable of going up, it may take some time

[@CalebHowlett]

Also I wish daleks were nice

[@slickeddie4121]

@@CalebHowlett Im pretty sure we already have some nice Daleks on our chats

[@IAmPegasus]

​@@CalebHowlett There have been some nice ones 🙂

[@CalebHowlett]

@@slickeddie4121 no I mean nice daleks on the show

[@CalebHowlett]

@@IAmPegasus yeah but they never last, like for example the humanised daleks from evil of the daleks, they all died

[@slickeddie4121]

The worst part is how Jon Pertwee just straight up mocked the Daleks with all the methods you debunked in the video.

[@minicle426]

Yeah, but Jon found anything that couldn't visually emote rather stupid anyway.🤷‍♂️

[@JJfromPhilly67]

He said things at conventions and interviews, but in his encounters with them as The Doctor, he treated them with respect.

[@slickeddie4121]

@@JJfromPhilly67 Then what is this then? kzbin.info69MZF4h_rho?feature=share

[@nitebones1]

there is a intresting weekness shown in doomsday for the new iteration of the daleks and that is they seems to be week to lightning based weapons at least for a short time till they could adapt their shields. enough of them as a alpha strike could take at least a small group out if you knew your weapon would be affective. as in the show it seems to disrup their shields and weapons. maybe combine it with a high powered rifle to snipe the eye peace or even weapon wilst the shields are affected

[@dalekbumps]

that's a really good point. Quite a few good suggestions of other weaknesses in this comment section actually, I'll have to do a follow-up video of 'five more Dalek weaknesses' and I'll be sure to include this one

[@pikachucetthesecond4296]

If I was trying to deal with some Daleks, I'd try and trick them into shooting each other. Say your reflexes are good enough that you could dodge the death ray whilst another Dalek is behind you. Unlikely? Probably! But not only is one of the only sure-fire ways to kill a Dalek is by having it shot by another Dalek, but also if you're up against a Dalek it's likely you're going to die anyway unless someone like the Doctor is nearby to get you out of it, or if you have weapons powerful enough to fight a Post-Time War Dalek with its heavy defences head on, so you might as WELL give it a go, right? Edit: Recently watched Eve of the Daleks and oh my god they actually did this

[@SiskaweshKsutaraden]

Now that is a good option, but risky.

[@arrowtt3364]

I hear The Last Dalek soundtrack. Damn, I miss those days

[@badwolf66]

In the age of modern warfare Daleks would have to contend with stuff like Long Mobile Range Artillery ,Drones, Hyper Sonic Missiles, RPG's, Anti-Tank Missiles (NLAW, MILAN & Javelin), we have our own tanks of course which can fire at targets at such a long distance that you wouldn't even see it coming you'd just be dead. Can Modern day Daleks survive in a modern day war environment? You can have all the Daleks in the world and they can be taken out by Kamikaze drones with the right amount of explosive! Classic Daleks would be the most vulnerable to modern warfare, it would sort of be a cake walk with the right tactics and weaponry.

[@dalekbumps]

That would probably be effective against Classic Daleks, but probably not against Daleks from the Time War

[@badwolf66]

@@dalekbumps Time War Era Daleks would end us all, we all saw what 1 did in van Stattans Base, then we had The Cult of Skaro and their millions of Daleks. Remember the scrap Dalek? Yeah the army got screwed there. (Partly due to lazy writing)

[@arrowtt3364]

In the novella, I am a Dalek, the Doctor mentions that a Dalek drone; I.e. a standard foot soldier, could sit through the force of a nuclear bomb being detonated near it.

[@dalekbumps]

@@arrowtt3364 reminds me of a quote from that TNT Power of the Daleks remake: "The Daleks were born on a world murdered by nuclear fire - no warhead set against them has ever met its target."

[@voluntarism335]

I would use either a timelord gun or a dalek gun against a dalek, if I have neither run away

[@TheRealKaiProton]

When I was a kid in the early 80's I remember someone I know used to shout at the tv to tell the heros to take the battries out. not sure if that would work though

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

Lift up the lid, fart into the casing, then close the lid. The Dalek will scream for about ten seconds, and then choose to self-destruct due to perceived _“CONTAMINATION!”._ Foolproof 😃

[@tidmouthmilk12]

I'd just surrender. If you can't beat them, join them.

[@alwaysbored1700]

YOU ARE NOT A DALEK YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED YOU ARE AN ENEMY OF THE DALEKS

[@rogersstinson4019]

There hypocrites, you fool.

[@minicle426]

Really, you'd be better off just doing yourself in.🤷‍♂️

[@MichelleW870]

maybe you could offer yourself to the bad wolf emperor to get turned into a dalek, doesnt sound half bad, considering the doctor likely isnt here. get turned into the most powerful being in the universe, sure you hate yourself, but dont we all nowadays?

[@voluntarism335]

They would just unalive you

[@IllusivePrime]

Maybe pull an Ace on a Dalek? Get a bat and whack a Dalek's eystalk and even take it's weapon out of it's gun box.

[@TelestoTheBesto]

It's not even useful to run away from a Dalek. Because even while not flying, they are fast. (See the scene in Evolution of the Daleks when the Doctor starts to help Sec. You will notice one of the Cult of Skaro move backwards extremely fast.)

[@plymouth5714]

In the old original Dalek annuals they were quoted at actually being able to move at around 200mph on flat ground. On the other hand they were also said to be colour blind to red so there shouldn't really have been any red Daleks in the films!

[@TelestoTheBesto]

@@plymouth5714 oh god

[@dinojelly-gamesmore1368]

Another reason why the push it over weakness doesn’t work is like it shows just before that part when rose touches the dalek her hand gets burnt so you would have to be able to throw a piano and handle getting a 3rd degree burn the entire time and not being shot or sucked by the plunger

[@ThatWannabeMusician]

They have also been shown to react negatively to strong magnetic fields

[@The_doctor_who_channel]

They have had many weakneses

[@playtime_foxy]

Each one adapted against

[@The_doctor_who_channel]

@@playtime_foxy yeah but tbh if I met a dalek idk what I would do

[@playtime_foxy]

@@The_doctor_who_channel I'd accept my fate, I'd consider it an honour, nothing I'd rather die by than my childhood favourite tin can... Except old age of course....

[@The_doctor_who_channel]

@@playtime_foxy I'd hide in a casing lol if you can't beat em join em

[@playtime_foxy]

@@The_doctor_who_channel if they scan you though....

[@Phoenix2312]

@Dalek Bumps There is a Weakness that the Shields help compensate for - But are NOT prefect against... One that was actually created by Terry Nation himself... and comes from the issue of Not knowing which Dalek was speaking in any scene... Yes, It is the BULBS on its head!!! According to Nation, trying to help build a canon for the daleks - The Inside gets VERY HOT and can inadvertently kill the Mutant inside, so excess heat is dissipated through the Vents in the Dalek Dome with some being stored as Energy, the Bulbs will take some of the excess energy and use it when a Dalek Communicates to further dissipate excess heat... Smash the Bulbs, COOK the dalek! But to do that you would need to be in Close Quarters, And NO ONE wants to be Close Quarters to a Dalek! (All that excess Energy... Yeah... The Storage Banks can be used to create an Energy burst around the Dalek Too... Rarely used as it also causes issues for the Dalek, but yeah... Go Hand to hand with a Dalek - It could Just Nuke you!)

[@jdzencelowcz]

Flashbangs, flamethrower, distractions.

[@cameronjosephvideos5942]

These were all weaknesses in the Classic Show. The Doctor has thrown a hat on the eyestalk once, Dracula lifted one and body slammed it, mud has been jammed into its eye, it couldn't climb stairs. I would also like to point out that just run around it would still definitely work. They rotate but they don't rotate quickly. I guess you'd still have to be pretty close to the Dalek though so it would likely be able to just ram into you. Touching a Dalek physically was said to make you burst into flames.

[@ryanlestrange4ever737]

Wasn’t missy able to break a dalek casing with her ring or broach?

[@lordferbus2970]

Made out of a fictional space alloy capable of piercing anything

[@ryanlestrange4ever737]

@@lordferbus2970 it was something like dark star alloy wasn’t it?

[@robotx9285]

​​@@ryanlestrange4ever737 Basically one of the Sharpest things in the universe.

[@Lord_No-brainer]

Everyone underestimates the Daleks. If you think you can survive easily, you've got another thing coming. That's why I don't think I stand a chance

[@josephmorris1248]

Oh is this music from the BBC Dalek game?

[@playtime_foxy]

Landmines could prove effective as they are weak to explosions however you'd need alot and the dalek hovering over them may cause them not to trigger because of a lack of pressure... Unless you have enough explosives to destroy several modern day tanks or are willing to and capable of caving in an entire building ontop of the dalek chances are you don't stand a chance, at all...

[@mrjoe5292]

Magnetic mines should work. They used them in WWII, the Germans I think. Not magnetic in a stick-to-the-hull sense but a large-metal-body-nearby-triggers-it sense. Funnily enough I though magnets while watching this video. I was reminded of the lone Dalek in Jubilee, and how it was held in place in its cell with a strong magnetic field. The issue would be that you'd need very strong magnets so I don't think it'd be feasible to use them as battlefield weapons so much as a defensive installation. Magnetic mines are perfect though. Or at least they were before the Daleks could straight up fly like a jet fighter lol

[@playtime_foxy]

@@mrjoe5292 magnetic mines out definitely take out the front of a dalek line, the survivors would definitely elevate but it would take out some, then if the weapons are salvageable... I don't know how the 12th doc turned a dalek gun into a rifle but since it's possible... Arm a company of soldiers with those and there's at least a fighting chance...

[@rayvenkman2087]

If Daleks were in SMT/Persona as a Demon or Shadow/Persona, they’d come with Null Physical, Absorb Nuke, Repel Gun, Firm Stance and immune to Rage. Coming equipped with offensive spells that does a lot of damage because why not? Elec, Psy and Almighty would be the only skills guaranteed to do damage to them with Elec being the only real possible exploitable weakness type they have. Dalek casting Megidolaon? True fear given form.

[@captaindreadnought212]

I think they’d definitely use either nuke or electric damage, also aren’t the shadows in Okumura’s palace based on the Daleks?

[@josephperkins4857]

The midsection spinning is a nu who price of tech

[@59rlmccormack]

Honestly, with these in mind, its best to find a way to make the Dalek explode.

[@ZigZag-mw9ir]

The two main real weaknesses are where the shield is weakest and if damaged can stop the dalek badly. The eye and base.

[@SiskaweshKsutaraden]

That's valid. Also... have you thought trying to throw them into a near milky way sized hypernova's epicentre, along with their metal casings?

[@ZigZag-mw9ir]

@@SiskaweshKsutaraden lol Well obviously something highly destructive will, well destroy stuff.

[@Dumb850]

What if all these false weaknesses are Dalek Propaganda to trick us

[@looe9195]

Staple a piece of rubber to it's eye. This blinds the Dalek, and rubber isn't flammable, so the shields can't burn through it and even it does, the rubber will become extremely hot and could damage the eyepiece, keeping it blind afterwards. Burning rubber also produce toxic gases, which may also be harmful to the Dalek.

[@amyshaw893]

you've obviously not tried to set rubber on fire, it is *very* flammable

[@Shruple]

If I were to be up against Daleks my goal would be survival not to fight back so I'd likely try to find a safe giding place and make note of Dalek patrols.

[@reeceemms1643]

Well we know that consented laser fire can take out a Dalek so there is that, or you could try a bazooka

[@pocketrocket1281]

A big giant magnet in the Doctor Who game the giant muscle man it will take the dance gorgeous plot but it might maybe work

[@darkapostle1749]

In regards to No 3. real quick; do you think that was exclusive to the God-Emperor Dalek's lot? Reason I ask is, from memory, only those from the 9ths' era seems to be able to do that; the Cult of Skaro nor future Daleks have been shown to do that, as far as I can remember but feel free to debunk that, too. (Never mind, I forgot about the Recon Dalek!)

[@Silverwind87]

Gold! Wait, sorry that's the Cybermen. Also that doesn't even work on them anymore.

[@Cybermat47]

IIRC the early Daleks in _The Daleks_ and _The Dalek Invasion of Earth_ could be toppled over or picked up by a group of humans, but yeah, those methods wouldn’t work against the heavier Time War Daleks even if they didn’t have those deadly shields.

[@MadMal2024]

In regards to the eyestalk vulnerability... yes it's possible to blind even a protected dalek. that has been shown in series. But the major problem with the eyestalk is its range of movement. And the New Paradigm Daleks seem to have a solution. Closer inspection of the mount of the eyestalk on the New Paradigm ones shows that the mount is now the same as the manipulator arm and the Gun stick mount. so offering a greater range of movement. In effect; the daleks have acquired a sort of peripheral vision, albeit in a conical field. Couple that with the dome's ability to turn, and creeping up on a dalek becomes a lot harder. So one Vulnerability is dispensed with. And that new eye look... Maybe its a biological component. made to be a sort of inverse Cybernetic attachment. And easily grown/cloned so as to be replaceable. We know that Daleks can use their own tissues to create ne daleks; so... it something to think about.

[@ImmortalAbsol]

I always assumed slow things could get through the shield, like a droideka in Star Wars Clone Wars.

[@psquiddy0627]

Well I would try and aim for the eye stalk with an axe but that probably wont work

[@playtime_foxy]

To watch an entire axe melt before my eyes would probably be the most horrifying sh💩t I could ever witness... That's the point where you just give up hope and end up exterminated with tears streaming down your face... 😖💀

[@OptimysticPessimyst]

@@playtime_foxy someone needs to put exactly this in an episode what a sight that could be. The molten metal dripping back onto the victim too followed by their pain being enjoyed by the Dalek before ending their misery

[@playtime_foxy]

@@OptimysticPessimyst ooooooohhhhh.... That would make the daleks scary again... That's exactly what we need, especially if it let's out that same laugh from resolution too... With its casing shaking with excitement... That'll get people hiding behind their couches just like the days of Dr who from before I was around...

[@dalekbumps]

​@@OptimysticPessimyst three scenes I'd like to see from a Dalek-themed episode of a DW spinoff that was aimed at young adults instead of kids: 1) actually seeing a person burst into flames when they touch a Dalek shield as described in 'Dalek' 2) the manipulator arm extending to 4-5x its original length, grabbing someone's head at the far end of a corridor, and smashing them into the ceiling and walls 3) someone trying to physically attack a dalek with a melee weapon, only for it to explode into shards of molten metal RTD had better deliver on the Disney+ spinoffs because its a great opportunity to build on through fear factor of the Daleks

[@BluesBrothers-k2m]

Hey dalek bumps do you know the daleks appearances all movies TV shows and Easter eggs

[@dalekbumps]

I have a script in-progress about that topic, such as their cameo in Lego batman and the looney tunes movie

[@BluesBrothers-k2m]

And the dalek in the postman pat movie

[@BluesBrothers-k2m]

And thunderbirds episode the man from M.I.5

[@oliverknagg5109]

What about a staircase with a particularly low ceiling. Maybe a spiral staircase.

[@Dano13-ox1ry]

Cant push it over. POV The chase If you dont get it its because somebody picked up an entire dalek and did that during the chase.

[@dalekbumps]

To be fair that was only possible because the 'person' picking up a Dalek was an animatronic with supremely enhanced strength, no Human could do that

[@SapphireStar23]

And yet people still try to do these things. Even when the doctor tries to warn them not to take the Daleks on.

[@hedgehog3180]

HIMARS GMLRS Metal Rain rounds. If regular bullets can overcome a Dalek shield lets see it deal with a hail of around 100k tungsten submunitions.

[@misterian2005]

I am sure that Tom Baker put one out of commission with a jelly baby back in the day, but can't find the clip to verify this

[@idontlikeitproductions3509]

Well the eye weakness does work in New Who, not only with the Dalek blinded in the Game Station but Ace beat the hell out of a Dalek a second time. I can't say for certain if it'd work but I'd personally think it worth trying a Javelin missile on a Dalek.

[@dalekbumps]

The only time we've seen bullets affect a Dalek eyestalk was using guns from the far future, which use bastic bullets from Revelation of the Daleks. And Ace's baseball bat is powered up with alien tech (it was destroyed in Remembrance, but according to the expanded media, the Seventh Doctor later repaired it)

[@idontlikeitproductions3509]

⁠@@dalekbumps I was wondering about the bat, like, I was surprised to see it reappear. Pleased, but surprised. As for the effect of the bullets, I was under the impression that in the episode Dalek, the reason the guards in Van Statten’s vault didn’t damage it was because the captain arrogantly ignored the Doctor’s advice. This is conjecture but I think you can argue that the fact the Doctor suggests it means it would have worked had the guards listened. Nine was post-Time War, he knows the capabilities of the Time War Daleks, he knows about the force field. How much fighting had he done as the War Doctor? He would have had intimate knowledge of the Time War Daleks’ weaknesses. Had it been so hopeless, he certainly would have told them to run rather than fight.

[@dalekbumps]

@@idontlikeitproductions3509 you make a solid argument, but I've always thought of that as the Doctor just maximising their chances of survival, he doesn't seem convinced it will work he just says it might give them a chance And there's also UNIT in Series 4 to take into account, if anyone's going to know about the eyepiece weakness its them, yet their weapons are completely ineffective in The Stolen Earth

[@idontlikeitproductions3509]

@@dalekbumps True. Though the eye being a proper weak spot didn’t seem to appear until Resurrection, and in that and all subsequent classic Dalek episodes, UNIT was never involved. Not to say the Doctor wouldn’t have told them of that weakness at some stage, but that fact leaves room for reasonable doubt. Plus, rather irrelevantly, the marksmanship of the UNIT soldiers in Stolen Earth is atrocious, firing from the hip like that, they would have killed everyone in that room without the Daleks’ help. So no surprise they never hit the eye.

[@Mike1064ab]

Not to mention in the nu who time in resolution they stop a single dalek by cooking it with a microwave. That’s even more ridiculous.

[@dalekbumps]

Not really. The Dalek in question was severely damaged, using a casing built from inferiormetals sourced from Earth. By hooking the microwave and oven parts to the casing, the Doctor basically turned it into a giant conductor for heat, and the non-Dalek alloys couldn't handle the stress. It would never have worked on a standard Dalek casing, it only worked because the casing had been built from scrap. Also, don't forget that this stillndodnt actually defeat the Dalek. The casing was damaged but the creature itself survived

[@schubertuk]

If I wanted to take out a Dalek, I would first flatter the critter, ask how it's parents are, what's the state of universal domination and then propose a date. Simples. I propose a Nandos or somewhere cheap with good disabled facilities.

[@dntm123]

The Daleks really only have one weakness: Bad writing.

[@muchomuchoman6050]

Hot Take: Modern Doctor Who gave daleks WAY too much plot armor. I get you've gotta make an alien menace intimidating, but the daleks just get more and more over the top with each new power the writers make up.

[@benmccauley7637]

Cool

[@mrneutral8423]

Daleks are as weak or as powerful as the writers want them to be. Very, very inconsistent. Sometimes you can push them over a cliff or throw a sheet over their head or laser gun them... other times they're almost indestructibe war machines. Hell, I've seen Daleks get killed with spears and clubs (I think it was in Death to the Daleks).

[@bobbyreynolds9277]

what if godzilla fights an army of daleks

[@themightybob]

Theres one weakness which i find to always work on any dalek i come across, a tactical nuke, works every time Or if you dont have one of those you could try an NTW20 rifle loaded with bastic bullets, that should scratch its paintwork 😆 im sure an explosive bullet of that size fired out of the most powerful rifle on the planet would cripple it

[@jowan2749]

If it was a old model and I had a knife I would stab the glass part of the eye or try to wrench the gun out

[@grahamturner1290]

🐙

[@messytexy]

I Would Find A Way To Get In To Water Or Mud

[@manyseas1219]

Most Doctor who villian factions are written so poorly. The daleks dont look like a threat and more like a tin can. And the fact that they often get out tricked by the main cast so many times makes them appear incompetent. The daleks actually need to behave competent and get some redesigns. Maybe showing different daleks who were build for different purposes would help, like a gigantic siege dalek.

[@paulkerry69]

Beat a dalek easy. You just need atr's ( anti tank rocket......... remembrance of the daleks).

[@STie95]

Honestly, this "kid war" escalation of Dalek strengths vs. weaknesses is pretty boring. Can't get up stairs? Nuh-uh, now I can fly! Small cone of fire and slow turns? Nuh-uh, now my midsection rotates! Bullets and grappling? Nuh-uh, now I have a super shield! It removes a lot of nuance from their character and closes out storytelling opportunities. It also makes their physical purposes more difficult to understand visually; a tank will outgun you from afar, but it can't shoot from up close! The Daleks think themselves the supreme beings of the entire universe, and that notion is way more interesting if they AREN'T perfect murderbots. Ideologically, what constitutes Dalek superiority is what constitutes a Dalek, which includes the Dalek "weaknesses". If they were concerned with being the objectively best and most lethal survivors ever, they would evolve themselves into, like, tardigrades capable of mitosis that generate a ridiculously potent virus or something. It's wrongheaded storytelling to think that Daleks are literally the ultimate killer beings and we simply haven't reached adequate portrayal of them as such. If they're the ultimate beings, why do they build themselves with only one eye?

[@voluntarism335]

Your complaints are bad. They fought the Timelords it would make no sense if they could not fly, they're supposed to be near indestructible and able to kill anything with 1 blast. You do not understand what the Daleks even are so make no more comments.

[@STie95]

@@voluntarism335 Daleks are NOT the ultimate killers. They say they are, and they're very scary and destructive, so it's spread like a meme in the Who universe. Their ideology/aesthetics limit them too severely; being a Dalek means being a big, clumsy lump with limited vision, limited movement, limited manipulation, limited firepower and limited thought. Every single aspect of a Dalek is limited by adversary control. How can you be an ultimate killer if you are literally unable to process concepts like pity or elegance, or get through crawlspaces? Like, think about it. You quite literally can't be a Dalek unless you're an octopus in a big, vertical tank that has less of a field of fire than a real tank. You HAVE to have one eye, only one usable limb and no flexibility. You'd think the geniuses of murder would use the unrestrictive process of design to give their tanks 360 degrees of vision, field of fire and movement. Instead, they choose to remain Skibidi Toilets, because in reality, they are philosophically limited. If viruses could travel in space, Daleks would be obsolete. That's why Davros says that kind of power would set him above the gods.

[@STie95]

This reminds me of how Terry Nation really hated how the Doctor mocked a Dalek in Destiny for being unable to chase him over a short climb into a small-ish opening. Terry Nation's solution was to never show Daleks being stumped by short climbs into small-ish openings, which does nothing about the actual weakness itself. Kinda like how Xenomorphs have to be made threatening by putting them in tight, dark corridors with lots of turns.

[@voluntarism335]

@@STie95 Wrong

[@voluntarism335]

@@STie95 The daleks guns can atomize a target or erase a target from time.

[@8158bolga]

I’ve always hated that scene of the guy running around the Executioner Dalek and taunting it. Like stated in this video, it’s pure plot contrivance (aka bad writing) that it even happens in the first place. An instance of the writer seeing a stupid meme online, and not doing any research, or even thinking about it for more than five seconds, and decides to just include it. Why? For the lols! Its funny! Ain’t it funny to see a Dalek be stumped by a mere man because he’s running around it?! 😂 No 😠 No it is not 😡 It’s stupid and it says more about the writer where they value comedy over consistency and logic. Not to mention that it’s just plain insulting to see one of the main/iconic villains get reduced to a joke by an awful writer. It was terrible when it happened in the Mandalorian, not just that stupid scene with the scout troopers, but also every other depiction of stormtroopers. Period The Daleks deserve better

[@chickenwinna]

if you didnt see the episode, that dalek does kill the man running around it. Unless my memory is wrong it only bought them a bit more time.

[@8158bolga]

@@chickenwinna My problem is not that, but that stupid people are now going to say “Just run around it”. Worse, it’s done for comedy, which has become a curse in pop culture: Destroying how threatening a villain is supposed to be in favor of a cheap laugh.

[@lordrevanxd3590]

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