Debunking the Myth of Biblical DMT

Did you know that the biblical story of the burning bush is all about smoking DMT? Joe Rogan talked all about it in his podcast so it must be true... right? Well, I'm not so convinced so in this video I debunk this particular nugget of psychedelic mythology and offer my opinion on why its probably complete nonsense.
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[@depthwish5586]

Great to see you back to posting! I hope you and your family are doing well!

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thanks you! We are doing OK, just taking one day at a time 🙂

[@PaulMelia]

Nice video Rob, great to see you back posting regularly.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Cheers brother, hope all is going well with you

[@PaulMelia]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica I'm good bro, still trying to finish music haha.

[@tonyloxton1965]

Great to watch your content again. Thank you Rob.

[@thebodad3]

Keep the content coming again brother! I love your posts

[@dhaktizero4406]

i think they knew the difference between a bush and a tree. Peganum Harmala is far more appropriate, and would easily intoxicate if burned harmaline and harmine are ten times more abundant there than any plant has any amount of dmt in it if your diet already included any mao-metabolized psychoactives then they would be potentiated most of the biblical dietary restrictions also make more sense when viewed from the perspective of avoiding hypotensive crisis in the general public when they come to the temple hotbox to worship. and ime the visuals from harmaline/harmine alone are in fire like tones of gold, red and orange larger doses also subdue the egoic voice making the still-silent voice more appreciable and this often described elsewhere as the voice of god (William james, Alan watts, et al iirc) there is allegedly one type of acacia in australia that has potent enough leaves to get some effect from smoking them, but it is rare and endangered and confined to small niche ecosystem (iirc) i would remember too that in a world without tv and telephones any imagery occurring would be a sought after state, and in a culture primed for religious visions in the lay community, celebrated weekly in the temple, they may not have needed to remark on the typical, like we don't talk about how wonderous tv is anymore, it's just accepted. that's how you chilled out. that and good old kaneh-bosm.

[@mhaseth]

I came here to say Pegna Harmala as well. I've had very psychoactive effects from harmaline alone. I guess we'll never really know but it's an Idea that's still fun to explore

[@ivanfranco2363]

Glad your back!

[@MegaDanielgrant]

Brilliant content as usual 👏 great vid Rob 👍 ❤

[@StarJackerSRL]

Hamilton Morris talked about a valley he went to where people burned Mimosa Hostilis as fire wood and he said that the smell of DMT was everywhere like in your video. The DMT in the acacia or any other plant is not in freebase form, it is in salt form which is not that sensible to burning. There are acacia acuminatas that have a very high DMT content in leaf , stem , bark , branches , and root. And he could have been very sensitive to DMT and close to schizophrenia.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I show that exact clip in the video

[@StarJackerSRL]

I saw after i wrote the first part of my comment but left it in there for consistency.@@AdeptusPsychonautica

[@4D2M0T]

We know this in Australia, you dam well can have breakthrough on a bush in a cave😅 look at aboriginal Australian art 🎨 and tell me you don't see dmt breakthrough

[@danielbarton8974]

In the bible it talks about the incense being salted .i don’t think that’s coincidence .when it comes to Pharmakia we as modern day people have no idea how some cultures did it .but we know they did .

[@EngGiovanniCremonezi]

happy to see you again!

[@scootinonthru1]

Your the best, thanks for all your insight along the way

[@excalibur2038]

Wow man i just found you through the dmt subreddit, your vibe is awesome and your a great speaker that is very engaging. I like joe rogan and i really appreciate everything hes done for this community but this was a bit of a stretch lol, anyway i dont think he meant any misinformation by it and most of the time his podcast is just him chilling and discussing random shit that he reads or thinks about and this one just happened to catch on. Anyway great vid man definitely gonna be following your content in future

[@1BobTheSubGenius]

I don't have words to thanks you great work about psychedelics. Stay good !

[@1BobTheSubGenius]

@@wes555 He say as a person who experienced, He is not a scientist, he just is telling his history, and the history telling is amazing and his work also is, stay safe bro!

[@joeconti3599]

DMT is fucking incredible but in the end....it's a drug ...reality is always here no matter what

[@rhythm854]

For now

[@wicky4473]

Great content and like your new logo!

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@diablominero]

I can't seem to find it now, but I've read a webpage from a government public health department that warned people not to dispose of acacia brush by burning because of the risk of psychoactive effects. So I'd be inclined to think that it's possible in principle.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

If you find it then please post the link

[@JOonRails]

I love your channel!

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thank you so much!

[@benbiamonti5810]

is it possible it would be salvia rather than dmt? btw love your stuff man. doing a excellent job :)

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thanks! It could be although I'm not sure that salvia grows in the middle east. Assuming it does then I still think you would have the same logistics problems around being able to inhale smoke that is dispersing into an open space.

[@MintyLoveDMT]

C'mon fella we all know that if total nonsense is parroted enough, it becomes irrefutable truth. Let's not allow facts and common sense to get in the way of a good story.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

On the plus side it gives me a lot of material to work with 🙂 One particular story that definitely needs debunking - "The Yocan Orbit is a really good vape"

[@MintyLoveDMT]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica A sweet day when that happens!

[@huntnorth5744]

To be fair I think Joes stoner memory has conflated a few theory’s described in Brian Murareskus book The Immortality Key….. Have you read it??

[@huntnorth5744]

Love your work by the way guys….❤

[@NeverCryWolf64]

Hey. Would you do a video about 5-MeO-DMT insufflation? I tried it for the first time recently, and found it to be much more gentle (and longer lasting) than vaporizing. It depends what you are after, but I think this is probably a much better method for many people.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I haven't tried snorting it personally, but if I do then I would likely make a video on it

[@NeverCryWolf64]

It is very easy. You can grind the freebase with a mortar and pestle and use a straw aiming for the middle of each nasal passage. Double the vaporized dose. and repeat as wanted during the trip.@@AdeptusPsychonautica

[@findtheothers]

Great vid!!

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Cheers Tyler 🙏

[@MiaSchroder]

U r sooo fckn on point dude I can't even say anything else 👍👍👍 except in obsessed with your videos n information keep it coming n much helpful n grateful for sharing your knowledge

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thank you so much! I am glad you are enjoying the channel 😀

[@Amanitor]

But I remember that Dennis McKenna in the interview with Jordan Peterson said that aya was invented probably when two tribes met. One of them was using maoi on their own and other was using DMT solely. I don't know how they were using dmt without maoi but would be interesting to dig dipper in that direction.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Its possible, although that theory has some problems. Its very common in the Amazon for ayahuasca to contain all kinds of different plants, so I think what probably happened is that the vine only brew came first, which has an effect all of its own, and then they started adding different things. At some point they added the chacruna leaves and... well the rest is history 🙂

[@Amanitor]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica Yep seems plausible. And for Moses why not shrooms for example.

[@toucheyes9248]

​@AdeptusPsychonautica Mother ayahuasca told them I think I heared that somewhere

[@spacetimearchitect3318]

Love you, Rob. I missed you.

[@psilopsychic]

I hope you and Rach are doing good ✌🏼

[@mothman4157]

These deep thoughts of existence and reality get overwhelming sometimes, I have to step back and just live to give my mind a rest I feel like I'm going crazy sometimes but in a way where I can't tame my mind it just needs more time and work, i search for answers but they get contradicted by someone, i ask for your help on where i should search for a path in learning about reality, the universe and everything abojt existence

[@mothman4157]

@AdeptusPsychonautica do u have any advice for a path I should follow to learn about reality and conciousness

[@Chrisspru]

"everywhere" is probably the closest answer. criticaly though, as many places overtly or subvertly deny or dislike conciousness. there are no truths there, only knots of inconsistency. conciousness is self looping itterative calculation in a way that creates resonance rather than escalation or negation. it can vibe with other redonances and is self aware as a necessary feature. conciouness is the root of all value, as conciousness needs to value to persist and values require a valuer. so any evaluation proves the valid value of conciousness and values. a negation is impossible, and would be a lie. humans are a little better than worse, so too is the universe. evil can't create and will starve itself. when is the question though. the universe iteself is concious across time. we are nodes of it too. never sell freedom for safety, of no individual or whole

[@capnk443]

1:00 man had a woogasm

[@WatchWhileHigh]

Keep posting, the community is here/there :) nevermind the views, just do your thing :)

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thats all I can ever do 🙂

[@Aeizium]

While I am a Christian, my relationship with God has always held skepticism in my heart about the Moses with the DMT bush deception. I was oftentimes very puzzled by this. I do take the Bible myself as the truth and believe in the Book of Exodus, however, I also am spiritually aware, that in the spirit realms (the DMT world), there are both tricksters and truthtellers.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I do think that its likely that psychedelics had some part in religious experience, or at least that they are different routes to the same altered state - but I think that taking this story as a literal smoked DMT trip makes no sense

[@AshleyRichardt]

Also a Christian, but I’ve always assumed it was a fairly common understanding that much of the Bible is allegory.

[@andrewdunton6304]

Although I agree with you about the burning bush I read in the temple, the high priest would burn acacia incense until the holy of holy was full of smoke. I can't help but wonder if it doesn't function like hot boxing with condensed incense cones. I also do not think it's a coincidence that the arc of the covenant is said to contain God and that it is made of acacia wood.

[@diablominero]

Mimosa hostilis primarily generates DMT in its roots, and people don't typically burn roots as firewood in my experience.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

The highest concentrations are generally in the roots, but the plant generates its throughout, and given the quantities involved in burning for heating then you would expect some noticeable effect.

[@JoshuaRolen]

It is prescribed in Exodus 36:20 that the Temple was to be constructed of Acacia wood. Why not some other wood? I know that doesn't prove Moses was on Sirian rue and acacia root bark, but it does point to the possibility, at the very least. Also, if you believe in God, you might suppose that God was intentionally vaporising the DMT from the bush without burning it, in such a fashion that a whiff of it would be potent enough.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Acacia is renowned for being durable, dense, and hard. It is a premium wood, so if someone is going to construct a temple to God out of wood then it makes sense they would use the best material. As for God performing miracles to vaporize DMT, if he is going to do something like that then why bother with the DMT at all? Surely he could just magically invoke the mystical experience within Moses as he does with other people in the bible?

[@aylo5373]

I love this video! 😂

[@SimonBlandford]

What evidence is there that he even saw a burning bush or that he even claimed to have seen a burning bush? Were there any eye whitnesses? How long before the story was written down?

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Whether he saw it, or it even existed is besides the point - this is more addressing that there are people who take a story, crowbar a psychedelic origin into it, and then declare that to be some kind of objective fact.

[@toucheyes9248]

Did dmt change your view about the afterlife ? Also it will be a good idea to make tiktok account 😊❤

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

It certainly made me a lot less of a diehard atheist 🙂 I do have a Tiktok account but I need to put more content on it

[@stmayhem1]

I've sat with friends smoking actual dmt in a room full of smoke, and never got high off it. So yeah, burning tree... total bs.

[@holidayfairchild]

How does someone remain Christinsane after doing DMT?

[@HazyKilla]

Doesn’t direct contact of fire instantly kill DMT?

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Yes due to the high temperature

[@user-vr6qf7vg9j]

Well said. I did find this theory compelling at first, but the more I thought about it it just didn't make sense.

[@tg__]

Moses was just the first changa user lol

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

🤣

[@felip.v502]

Great content as always❤

[@BitcoinDad]

I love it! How about now debunking the myth that Santa Claus is a fly agaric? :)

[@xoukosisonearth3931]

nice video , tho religions and christianity have plenty of ''altered states '' references , like when they mention fasting for example but they are like you said encrypted messages

[@maxfreakout]

You are reading the burning bush story too *literally*, thereby obscuring the psychedelic reference. You need to interpret the story as a *metaphorical* description of psychedelic tripping (= mystical state of consciousness). EDIT - just heard you address this point at 7:00.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I'm simply commenting on other peoples literal interpretation as detailed by the clip at the beginning

[@bradcoleman9122]

I've always heard that EHIH, the bush, was mushrooms. I've heard it speculated that Solomon’s Temple is the DMT experience. Ancient hebrews did make insence from the Acacia tree. If they hotboxed enough insence made of concentrated Acacia in an enclosed space, they could possibly have had a psychedelic experience. I thought it was BS until I did a cold water extraction on mimosa and turned 50g of bark into 2g of dried material. I didn't try smoking it through.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Its extremely doubtful that you can hotbox DMT due to the relatively low temperature at which it burns into inactive goop. Its practically impossible to control that in an open fire and the example provided by Hamilton Morris in this video demonstrates that.

[@groovedodger]

One thing I considered when looking for sources was incense gum as burnt in churches as it is traditionally Acacia gum.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Does the gum contain the DMT though? To my knowledge its in the bark so i'm not sure how useful the gum would be

[@groovedodger]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica Probably only trace amounts I never got around to getting any but I had the idea would it be enough to give someone a religious experience.

[@jahizgod]

If only we could’ve watched the “Moses enlightenment experience in real time” video and see how he responded to his scrolls being delivered A tradition as old as time itself 😇

[@rsh4599]

They did mushrooms if anything. There's no history of ayahuasca in europe.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Certainly not ayahuasca as per the Amazonian recipe, but there are ayahuasca analogues available which can be made with acacia and syrian rue, both of which are native to the middle east.

[@Zaptagious]

Jesus was a machine elf

[@selig7]

*is

[@blackreazor]

Jesus was a pedophile

[@LemmyKutcherGrass]

😂hell yeah!

[@tony666__]

the fact Jesus and god himself can just be inter-dimensional aliens made of gears is cool asl ngl

[@bendrixbailey1430]

He was of immaculate conception, and finally crucified…. Read The Sacred Mushroom and The Cross. Aminita Muscaria, the psychedelic mushroom, that arises from a unfertilized womb in the ground and becomes the shape of a crucified man. Christ Crucified is a metaphor for the A. Muscaria.

[@pepperoni012]

The story is so obviously symbolic to me that I never realised anyone would take it literally. Ironically throughout the most of the video I thought it's you who can't see the symbolism hence the entire rant 😅 Until you mentioned it in the end which made me get you finally.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

@wes555 I would love to see you validate that I am "very dismissive of a lot of other cultures" What the fuck are you talking about dude? 🤣

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Ah yes, the proud cultural belief in leaving garbage all over the place - you certainly exposed me there! 🤣🤦‍♂️

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

You sound a bit obsessed mate 🙂

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

You haven't pointed out any holes, not one 🤣

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Are you my echo chamber? 😆

[@jahizgod]

So basically what you’re saying is…Santa is a Mushroom?

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

illuminati confirmed 😛

[@tony666__]

⁠@@AdeptusPsychonauticaFAX I see eyes everytime I take any psychedelics.

[@AudeROndt]

Modern wizardry

[@julesdrums6167]

Rob is back woohoo!

[@aadiladam9891]

Maybe just maybe there was some potent weed next to the accacia. Moses just got super goofed from the weed fumes 🤣🤣🤣

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I wouldn't say its impossible, maybe he stumbled across someone's psychedelic garden hidden away up the mountain

[@stancooper5436]

You're doing God's work, Rob.. *ahem* The psychedelics 'community' will benefit from dumping these kinds of ideas, and as you have said in the past (and I agree), the experience is incredible in it's own right and doesn't need any of these bolt-ons.

[@JimmyBackbeat]

I've heard Joe Rogan talk about the burning bush quite a few times but I never took it for a literal claim. I always took it as a conversation about symbolic meanings embedded in tradition. Though I might be wrong of course because there is a lot of Joe Rogan conversations and I have barely heard a tiny fraction of it all. Then again, for this symbolic narrative to be true; the other Rogan claim, the one about a reset in human civilization probably needs to be true as well. Because I don't think DMT extraction was very easily accomplished by antiquity peasants. The knowledge must have been acquired and retold until it became myth before it was recorded in writing 3000 years ago. So, yeah, it's rather unlikely but I don't think it's absolutely outside the realm of possibility.

[@mushedits]

Ehhhh idk dude. Not sure which psychedelic community you’re on but the general consensus on a few different forums (DMT nexus DMT world) would say otherwise.

[@shepberryhill4912]

I don't think your investigation is extensive enough to have closed the book on biblical psycoactives. Syrian Rue and Kaneh Bosm were both known to be used, and it's not implausible that Rue got combined with Acacia. The burning bush was not implicated as the source of the vision, it WAS the vision. Plus the Mosaic Jews were familiar with Egyptian culture, so they knew about blue lotus wine, and there were likely connections between the Egyptians and the Greek Eleusinian Mysteries, which used a psychoactive brew based on ergot. Palestine also had trade with the Persians, who developed quite a pharmacology.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

You are somewhat missing the point, and I am guessing you didn't watch the full video. I don't "close the book" on any of that stuff, I am simply addressing the people (like Joe Rogan and the thousands of people on psychedelics forums that repeat this narrative) who believe that the burning bush = literal smoked DMT, hence why the bush MUST be an acacia bush. In their eyes the bush is clearly the source of the vision, because DMT + heat = God experience.

[@lewispiritual.]

Maybe the bush smoke caused him to have a near death experience which induced a DMT like state, rather than the smoke itself being DMT😂. This seems more logical🤷🏻‍♂️

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

That's actually a pretty good theory which I hadn't considered for this scenario. I was recently talking with the DMT researcher Andrew Gallimore, and he suggested that the NDE experience could be triggered in the lungs as a response to lack of oxygen and the brain going into a kind of emergency state. I'll probably make a video on that in future.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

@wes555 try not to get so excited mate. I said it was pretty good not INCREDIBLE, and yes theory is the correct in the linguistic sense rather than the scientific sense - the dictionary is your friend here... derp 😃 dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/theory

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

@wes555 eh?

[@lewispiritual.]

This guy seems to be defending the three B’s. (Burning Bush Bullshit)

[@evenareflectionisalie8525]

Fucking class 😂🙏🏻💚

[@RickL555]

It's funny because even though I'm an atheist I totally do reference the Moses burning bush story every now and then but for a completely different reason than everyone else in the psychedelic community. I turn it into a cautionary tale warning others about the potential negative effects the psychedelic experience can have on an individuals ego. Moses was the only one guy from the whole freakin' tribe that got to go up the mountain and meet god and since I got involved in psychedelic activism and the decriminalization movement I've met plenty of people now that have had a couple of powerful experiences and start calling themselves a Shaman and open up a website offering their professional guidance and wisdom to others. It can be steroids for the ego and I've even met a couple people that got so out there they started referring to themselves in the 3rd person. So I caution people when I can that if they start to see themselves as the next Moses because they believe the "burning bush" chose them over everyone else in the tribe, its because they've been feeding their ego unhealthy delusions and that anyone that applies themselves can have these experiences. Keep up the good work buddy!

[@lewispiritual.]

Have you tried psychedelics? Just a wondering question as you say you’re an atheist.

[@RickL555]

Oh yeah, been growing my own cubes for a while now. I only mentioned because it's not too often you hear an atheist reference the bible and I found it humorous. Not too many of us science minded atheist exploring the spiritual side of psychedelics but we do exist. 🙂@@lewispiritual.

[@Artezia]

Every drug want to be taken by many. If one becomes the advocate for that, don’t judge him, it’s just the drug wanting.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Those pesky drugs!

[@philosopherstoned777]

Moses got hotboxed by the acacia tree

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I doubt it for the reasons described in the video

[@Kristy_not_kristine]

People are so funny!

[@BoudiciaDark]

Do one of these debunking stoned ape "theory" as well!

[@dmtdreamz7706]

So one person loves snakes. Handles snakes, no problem. Another person terrified of snakes. So what does that mean? That means it's in the person. It's not in the snake and likewise about money. There are some billionaires and millionaires who are more afraid of going broke than there are people who are like hippies and maybe only have a hundred bucks in their pocket or a thousand dollars in their savings account and you know they're cheerful. They're happy. They don't really care about money very much. Money is not a big deal to them the way they were raised. They're kind of just carefree. They kind of go with the flow. They're more spontaneous. They're not worried about how to pay the bills and all that stuff. So you see the hippie has less fear in this case than the billionaire. How can that be? Because the mind is constructing it. All fear is imaginary.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Sure, our subjective experience is a construct which in itself is modified by the exterior reality.

[@blackreazor]

Dmt is the only reason i started believing in God after 30 soemthing years of atheism lol

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Same, although my understanding of "god" is very different to the biblical one 🙂

[@blackreazor]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica likewise. But the mind can't help it but show you archetypes. Which is why I think ppl see a whole array of different hallucinations and visions with different substances and even with the same stuff just different doses( dxm and dmt being a sample)

[@Yesuah-bendav1d]

I don’t think Moses smoked dmt, more than likely combined it with Syrian rue

[@flipsterfloppa9065]

is there any evidence for that?

[@danielbarton8974]

U havnt read the bible .the Moses story is just that a story .its the mechanism to explain how they interact with the deity .its all about the holy incense in the tent .thats where they see the deity every time they burn it in the tabernacle. 1.burn incense see god 2 . People die lighting incense Acadia Senegal has a hydrocarbon in it 3.every ancient religion had cultic rituals that revolved around plant alkaloids There’s more bread crumbs than just the story of the burning bush .it will always be one of those mysteries .and the story has been sanitised over time

[@Jamb13]

Have you not considered the fact that the bible is metaphorical and not literal? The peope who wrote the bible portrayed information through stories, not through literal information like we do nowadays, the language of the old world is symbolism not science, I feel like this is the main obstacle between ancient knowledge and modern man, modern people have difficulty understanding anything that isn't cold hard scientific reductionism, this will always keep ancient knowledge hidden from you, since it's invalid when looked at through this paradigm The bible makes much more sense when viewed as basically a symbolic and esoteric guide to psychology and self-realisation before science was a thing, God is consciousness, Satan is the ego etc. It was never meant to be literal, imagine trying to explain consciousness to people without any of the fancy terms and shit we have today, stories where these concepts are anthropomorphised is the only way for pre-science populations to even remotely understand

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Not only did I consider it, I included a section on that topic within the very video you are commenting on kzbin.info/www/bejne/e33Fcmtta9KJmNksi=o_pLbTGPMb0wcHmV&t=420 My questions back to you - have you ever considered actually watching videos before commenting on them rather than just reacting to the first minute or thumbnail? Further to that would you concede that regardless of the intention of the writers of the bible, that there are indeed people who take it absolutely literally?

[@Amanitor]

My theory. Some aliens gave Moses dmt to vape for fun. Few thousands years later. Dude you remember that guy on the desert we visited. You will not believe he started all major religions there based on his trip lol.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

🤣

[@deltafour1212]

Lot of guessing, assumptions and personal opinion going on here

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Yes

[@TheMorges1]

i get you’ve made this your hill to die on - but you keep ignoring the possibility of someone fumigating in a tent? ya know - with a lil fire or some branches you found near by? moses - the OG hotboxer

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I'm not sure that talking about something quite equals "a hill to die on", but putting that slight exaggeration aside... You can't hotbox DMT with alkaloids straight from a plant that is simply on fire - all the reasons why are in the video (temperature control would be the main one)

[@TheMorges1]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica fair nuff - i only said its a hill to die on because you mentioned it in: - the podcast you recently did - as an unprompted foot note in your uni talk - now this entire video :)

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I think the phrase you were probably looking for was "its on your mind", and sure of course a topic that I am making a video about is on my mind, hence why I mentioned it on the podcast and uni talk, both of which happened in the last few weeks.

[@TheMorges1]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica sure - that sounds like a much better way to phrase that part. no disagreements there. re the fumigation: sounds like you’ve really scrutinised this and ill be honest i hadn’t quite made the linkys between what you were saying in the videos and what i was saying about burning it - i was still quite focussed on it being a “probs couldn’t burn a bush and get a concentrated enough dose with so much diffusion going on in an open setting” trail of thought. i mean overall we are debating what might be fact or fiction inside something that is purely paraphrases at best if there is any truth in there. (imho) so always room for people to get lost. look forward to the next vid :)

[@PauloBLKNS]

Thank you for your insight on the subject, indeed I dont feel that is usefull to "our community" those hoax and is really unfortunate that someone with so much influence like joe rogan cant even be sincere and tell to his audience that this is probably a hypothesis far from the true. Its like he want to be the next terrence mckenna, doing and talking anything to get some views and cuts made from his podcast

[@PauloBLKNS]

I think is also fair to point that we already understand that the primitive judaism was a shamanic religion, they were using oils made from plants in their rites and even the whole temple, its furniture and also the priest were greased by that oil. Most of the judaic community already accept that the plant called "kaneh bohsen" that was on the recipe of this holy oil was probably c4nn4bis. We also have the fact that the leadership in cannabis studies for the past decades was Israel, this just help to corroborate with this possibly use of c4nn4bis by primitive hebrews. So they're a people that somewhere in a time long time ago have the inclination to use plants on rites settings (like almost every human settlement), so an analog form of ayahuasca with plants endemic to the region is very very possible

[@PauloBLKNS]

Remembering the moses history, the bible scriptures also point the he had comeback from the mount sinai and people avoided to talk to him because his face was shinning, for me its sound like he was coming back from a trip still a bit overwhelmed. But this is all probably fairy tale, as one of the greatest empire that had the tradition to write down in documents in the first papers humanity had crafted everything that happened its sad how they didnt write anything about moses and its exodus

[@PauloBLKNS]

Probably all the old testament is a great hebrew scam, not to be taken literally of course

[@eileenkenney]

You are hysterical. Your common sense makes you a genius. We really need more minds like yours in the psychedelic space and world in general.

[@MycoTao]

I'd agree with you with what is written . However , it's known that there has been stuff not written . So I'll keep mind opinion open . I try to remember that the Bible, like the Tao , was written by humans . The Abrahamic faiths dispute this to humanity's I'll gain.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Its not really got anything to do with what was written or not written, its simply that if you put this story through the frame of "smoked DMT" as shown in the Joe Rogan clip, its logistically implausible

[@doraemon402]

You see, you're not debunking anything because it's not literal, that's just how it's metaphorically written in the bible.

[@huna1950]

Great to see you getting the unnecessary use of the F word down to two per video Bro…. Like the point to this video also-it’s great when middle aged men can’t act their age without having to be like Jordan Peterson with a broom up his ahem One day……

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

There is no such thing as "unnecessary" use of the word fuck, each instance is a perfect utterance

[@huna1950]

Again just lacks decorum -only watched two minutes of your university talk….guess you didn’t do such linguistics then lol-why be different dependant on audience? maybe perfect utterances are exceptions then and not the collective rule according to you?

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

You would have to watch it and then see if reality matches the narrative you are pulling out of your ass

[@Magnacorpanicous]

Moses never existed, and there was no exodus. This chosen land stuff is just as silly. I prefer unchosen sea.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I tend to lean towards the idea that there is some thread of truth in it, which became exaggerated over time and lost in translation until we get to the present day version

[@dogcrick]

Oh Esau... You gonna learn. Psychadelics are all throughout the Bible. If you don't know true Paleo-Hebrew then you are not gonna win this one lol! And the Bible has nothing to do with christianity. You are highly confounded lol 😂

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

You would probably sound more credible if you could actually spell psychedelics 😉

[@asemic]

entertaining the idea that god can speak through a bush, let alone exist and create everything in the first place... idk, it doesn't really get crazier than that, the details are superfluous and no less unbelievable imo XD

[@thegoblonoid]

Great video! Do the "jesus was a mushroom" theory next. It's equally annoying.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I havent really heard that one, I will have to look into it - sounds pretty silly though 🙂

[@intergalacticpimp8683]

I’m glad you call out Rogan’s BS.

[@progod6017]

very informative. this actually a theory I lowkey believed in, debunked.

[@Ringmaster101]

Jesus ❤ DMT I ❤ Jesus

[@williameccleston9085]

The Story of Jesus Christ is the BIGGEST BULLSHIT STORY EVER TOLD 🤣🤣🤣. Rob I LOVE ❤❤❤ how you describe shit. Proper has me laughing out loud 😂.

[@TheLaunchpadPodcast]

Thank you for thinking for yourself rob 🫶🏼 something we always need more of