Debunking the worst haircare misinformation on TikTok

[@damaracarpenter8316]

Also I think you should be even HARSHER to medical doctors because if they have the gall to spread misinformation they deserve to be corrected without mercy.

[@jessica20625]

As a doctor, I agree!!!

[@elettramia6380]

The question I have would be are they intentionally spreading misinformation? Or have they been taught to believe what they are saying is true in the medical field? I don’t know which one is scarier actually.

[@meltedsnowman9637]

⁠@@elettramia6380 They definitely weren’t taught any of what they’re saying in school. They’re a more uncommon type of “do their own research” doctors.

[@CalebCalixFernandez]

⁠@@elettramia6380in one of his videos, Dr. Mike said that frozen French fries were bad because they have trans fats, among other things, instead of saying that eating them regularly is bad for one's health. Trans fats were banned from food products in the US in 2018 and the government gave manufacturers three years to reformulate their products because mandatory compliance started in January 1, 2021. I refuse to believe that he wasn't aware of that when he made that video.

[@montananerd8244]

100%. Of all the science based skin&hair care creators, so many have turned out to be scammy in some way. Lab Muffin & Dr Dray are currently the only channels I feel comfortable following, because they put quality of work first, and have the proper standards for themselves. We appreciate it!!

[@sofiaglove]

"She is an aesthetic doctor so I'm not sure what she's doing with the stethoscope anyway" 🔥🔥😂😂

[@sofiaglove]

Made me chuckled. Love you Michelle ❤😂

[@itsgonnabeanaurfromme]

@@sofiaglove it's so funny. You know that stethoscope hasn't been used since medical school. She has, AT MOST, a nurse who will check vitals. But that's giving her too much credit.

[@dolliemollly]

ateee

[@MonkeyJedi99]

If she didn't have a stethoscope, how would you know she's not just borrowing someone else's scrubs?

[@ThotProphet]

Who knows, the stethoscope might not really be there, it might be added on as part of the filters she has on her anyways 😂

[@poushalighosh4661]

I'm so glad you posted about Dr. Youn. He's built a strange cult of unquestioning mostly women and it's strange given he both promotes clean, "natural" beauty while practicing plastic surgery.

[@Nat_778]

Imo he weaponises the fact that women are often not listened to in medical settings. He curates an image of being 'one of the good ones' and that he'll always listen to women about their bodies and health, which will make them more likely to trust him and less likely to fact-check

[@tatiana4050]

But then also goes on "sus" or "natural" scrutinising people if they had plastic surgery.

[@AA-cf4es]

​@@Nat_778typical male predatory tactics. You wrote it perfectly!

[@sidiwvwhi]

also young teenagers too which is. not great

[@saskibla]

This finally explains why I stopped watching his videos. He indeed got a bit too culty for me. At first I liked how he explained several plastic surgery trends and stuff, but the moment he had a beauty brand he starter to weird me out.

[@magpielark]

The idea that silicone melts your hair is so bizarre considering how common it is in heatproof cooking/baking equipment. Have these people never used a spatula???

[@angelag669]

I was thinking the exact same thing when she was talking about that. 🤔

[@rep-vile]

Boomers think silicone spatulas are toxic too, can't catch a break

[@ALT-vz3jn]

lol! Yeah water soluble silicones are good for hair, they don’t melt it. 😂

[@ALT-vz3jn]

@@rep-vileomg silicone is an inert material I’ll take silicone over plastic any day.

[@comfortme]

depends. some of them contain cancer causing chemicals. i think it’s pfas? which is in most waterproof things like carpets, platics, non sticky pans, etc. your shampoo might have it too, so its more like being careful about what you’re washing your body with and what you let into you home. yea it’s everywhere at this point but prevention wouldn’t hurt. after all, you can never filter them out of your body.

[@itsLia13]

I was a teenager when all this clean beauty propaganda started and I’ve realized that the beauty industries rely on *NEGATIVE PLACEBO.* I was told sulfates and silicones were ruining my hair. I was going through puberty and I’m also mixed race, so I said, “Of course! My hair is dry and ugly!” After a few years of trying clean beauty, my hair has become ever worse and my skin now has a dry texture that it never had 🥺 after going back to cheaper, mainstream products, my hair isn’t magically better, but its definitely more manageable and I have to wash it less. Turns out it was marketing the whole time!! I worry for the next generations as advertising gets more aggressive and patronizing.

[@chuggaa100]

That's called a nocebo

[@please_im_a_staaar]

Yep. I have an oily scalp and people on the internet convinced me that if I wash my hair only once a week instead of every other day then my scalp will retrain itself to be less oily + I should use delicate sulfate-free shampoos that wouldn't get rid of severe sebum and dirt build up. I ended up with pretty bad hair loss and it only stopped when I went back to my normal washing routine.

[@daniellemartin9896]

So many chemicals are not safe to eat or drink but they are perfectly safe and work extremely well topically for skin or hair.

[@lukelliott1]

Mainstream chemicals often work for a lot of people. Growing up, I LOVED how Pantene and tresseme made my hair feel. Guess it was the silicones:) Now, I use a very sulfate -y shampoo once a week to clarify my hair, and my hair is the healthiest it's ever been!

[@ALT-vz3jn]

Yes, clean beauty is nothing but a marketing scam invented to sell product. I’m so sorry you fell victim, of course you were so young you should have been protected from these predatory marketers instead. There was a ‘clean beauty’ trend like 20 years ago and it died out, I’m older and remember how those products made my hair feel terrible so I didn’t fall for it when it came around this time. I like the L’Oreal shampoos and conditioners from the drugstore, they have the same ingredients as their more expensive ‘salon’ lines. The Elvive ‘Dream Lengths’ line for those growing out their hair is awesome, my hair feels so soft when I use it.

[@emmew8979]

WHO TF IS SAYING WE NEED TO BE NICER TO DOCTORS WHEN THEY SPREAD MISINFORMATION??? we need to be harsher on them for using their authority and credentials to speak out of their ass

[@msimpson2779]

💯 🎉

[@itsgonnabeanaurfromme]

I remember when she called out the sunscreen misinformation from that male dermatologist in the Philippines. That guy actually made a post and said he was being cyber bullied. Medical Derm in the Philippines is great because of all the infectious diseases, the dermatologists there are trained very well. But that guy clearly only aims for cosmetic dermatology and he didn't even get that right.

[@samanthariley6822]

It annoys the shit out of me too when they play dress-up in scrubs with a dumb little stethoscope they're DEFINITELY not just using day-to-day...as if we're supposed to believe they were just wandering around their plastic surgery clinic listening to people's hearts and paused to film a video. It's so...theatrical and disingenuous. If your content is good and you have the proper credentials, you don't need to fool people into taking you seriously.

[@emilya6373]

Nah in the TikTok comments they literally called her out for not being a doctor. And a dermatologist would oooobviojsly know more about the topic than her. Which makes no sense at all to me. Physician diagnose and treat conditions. They do not know or understand the science behind actually formulating a drug. Whether it’s a cream, a shampoo or a tablet. That job is done by pharmacists. And I’d reckon at least 90% of my fellow pharmacists still have less well of a grasp on the specifics of dermal therapeutics (and cosmetics which are the same anyway) than lab muffin

[@AnansiSista]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@samanthariley6822OMG the stethoscope😂😂 like be serious you’re not using that lol.

[@kisikisikisi]

Dr. Youn has rubbed me the wrong way for a long time. I have opinions about cosmetic surgeon influencers as it is, but him using his title to spread misinformation regarding topics that have nothing to do with his area of expertise is just a new low.

[@Saliacha]

I used to like him but unsubscribed immediately the moment he came out with his supplements

[@clim9742]

There's one video where he says Vaseline/petrolatum is terrible for the skin. I guess he's never heard of slugging. 🙄

[@dreamof_me]

Also one thing I would expect him to know a bit more about, like bra sizes, he knows pretty little about. As someone who didn’t get an accurate bra size until r/abrathatfits, I hate that he perpetuates misinformation about bra sizes too. Maybe he’s gotten better since then but it would’ve been nice if he used his platform to clear up that misinformation people have on these topics.

[@Limitedonathios]

Yes! Him and Dr. Barrett. Dr. Barrett has actually made me laugh with how bad some of the stuff he says is. But I have noticed in general, plastic surgery is about overall aesthetics, they don't interpret blood work or lab results for overall health on the daily and they don't witness the resultant clinical manifestation of those metrics in several people longitudinally. They solely practice creating a look, they don't manage the physiology underpinning it, *at all* simply bc that is not their scope. So many lie or don't know that they are spreading misinformation. It is not their job to keep up with new metrics and studies for health maintenance, bc that is not what their field entails or trains to address daily, 30 patients per day. So its always so odd to me when people like them, or Dr. Salidino, the psychiatrist, act as if they can...but its not an act, they are purposefully using the MD behind their name to provide credibility. Ngl, still like and watch Youn though, at least he seems to be caring unlike others.

[@mariapaz6379]

I like him, i think he has good advice in regards to plastic surgery. His advice on skincare is questionable and its obvious that he has a personal interest in it, with his brand and all. I think one can like him and also disagree with him.

[@emplore]

As a dentist, it is most frustrating when I see misinformation on dentistry from dentists on tiktok. So much potential harm. Thank you for what you do.

[@tianamarie989]

What are your thoughts on the bentist?

[@adorabell4253]

Tell us who! We need to know.

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Ughhh I've seen the anti-fluoride stuff - some boards really need to start taking disciplinary action!

[@emplore]

@@LabMuffinBeautyScience 100%. Quite amazed with the lack of regulation from some boards.

[@tatiana4050]

They are the 1 dentist that doesn't recommend toothpaste.

[@bluejaymusic_]

the comment around 25:00 about "i know it feels great on the hair but it's superficial" drives me bananas because, yeah, that's what a lot of hair treatments are. you can't fix hair damage, just treat it. you use conditioner and masks on bleached, damaged hair, and then when you wash it, the treatment is gone, because hair is not alive, it doesn't heal. i'm so glad you're debunking these hair myths, because this stuff drives me nuts!

[@IAmStillHere-ws4jc]

Some oil-based products penetrate the hair shaft and actually leave it more moisturized. Silicone isn’t one of those, but it does act as an occlusive to keep your hair from losing moisture while it’s on. And as you said, most of the stuff we put on our hair washes off anyway. Why pick on silicone?

[@Rechard1107]

⁠literally one of the safest 😂

[@turnbacktime65]

You cracked me up. You sound like me. I want to metaphorically slap some of the idiots posting ridiculous content. Yes, hair IS dead. how to some people not know this?

[@mjo6586]

@@IAmStillHere-ws4jcSilicones are one of them and are more efficient .Example : polyquaterniums/ Quats penetrate hair better .And the Purpose of hair products is to seal open cuticules( the protective barrier of hair). Washable or not hair is dead keratin. You don’t cure dead matter even with the most natural oil .The day you find your cuticles are quite heavy, you use a clarifying shampoo and start again. Many essential oils are endocrine disruptors.But they do not don’t tell you .Scientific studies prove that silicone are safe . It is the main ingredient in anti-scars treatment and there are also some in many medications you take 💊

[@nari5161]

Maybe ppl are hating on silicones bc they have buildup from chronic lack of sls

[@IAmStillHere-ws4jc]

Thank you for calling out Dr. Youn-I’ve been waiting for someone to challenge him! His area of expertise is plastic surgery, but seems to think that makes him an authority on skincare, weight loss, nutrition, and whatever else is trending right now, and I’m sick of it. What a coincidence that the TikTok doctors who fear-monger about toxins in skincare are all the same ones that have their own “clean” skincare lines.

[@ryeofoatmeal]

yeah his content about PS was good and only that. once he started talking about other than his expertise of area.. i kinda have a lot of doubt. just bcos you're a doctor, we need to trust you. specialist doctor exist for reasons 🤣 here he is tryna dig every single health topic

[@bobbijon]

Right? Conflict of interest much??

[@cl5470]

Yup. He panders to a lot of anti-science types like naturopaths or fat activists. He just wants to sell his books and beauty products.

[@Reddarksun]

it's cuz he has his own skincare line definitely

[@heatherbateman8647]

I wish I could get the general public to recognize this one thing. If anyone is suggesting you use THEIR product, and every other product is crap, please treat ANY information from that person with a HUGE grain of salt. Buyer beware…

[@ErinHonor]

The whole "doctor from different specialty speaks with authority on skin and haircare" thing makes me think of how, not too long ago, you had SO many medical doctors publishing diet books to push their own personal diets/products/etc despite having taken maybe 1 or 2 actual focused nutrition courses during med school,

[@Bunny-pr8gw]

Well he is a plastic surgeon. They do study skin and hair for their degree.

[@TastyTeeth69]

​@Bunny-pr8gw You really just touch on these topics but in no way get anywhere near the understanding of a dermatologist or a chemist specializing in the area. Surgeons understand the mechanism of the procedures they are doing and are experts in that but nothing else. My partner is an anesthesiologist with a masters degree in immunology and his best friend is a physician's assistant working in rheumatology. Of those two, she is the only one that any of us would trust for medical advice on autoimmune issues. I think a lot of the confusion on this topic comes from medical shows like Grey's anatomy where surgeons are doing initial assessment and diagnosis and coming up with holistic treatment plans when this is just not the case. Surgeons do surgery. Family med, internal medicine, and other specialists do their job then bring surgeons in to consult and do their job when necessary. This is especially true when you get doctors who have been attending for a decade and are hyperspecialized by that point. There's just no way to keep up with all of the advancements in another specialty while doing the same with your own, especially when you lack the 7 or 8 years of residency and fellowship training to actually practice in that field. When it comes to these social media doctors im far more inclined to trust what a family physicial is saying since they actually recieve broad training, but a surgeon who thinks their a dermatologist? That's just arrogance.

[@smoaderz]

@@Bunny-pr8gw Yes but a plastic surgeon is not specialized in skin to the degree of a dermatologist. Surgeons (plastic and otherwise) specialize in surgical techniques and the healing processes of those procedures. Dermatologists can cover some surgical aspects but their main specialty is in the underlying medical issues and diseases in regard to skin. I would not want a surgeon who does not also have more specific degrees such as dermatology speaking over those who do, and Dr. Youn does not.

[@IAmStillHere-ws4jc]

I have a friend who lost a lot of weight with an anti-estrogenic diet recommended by her nutritionist. She went to see a doctor in an entirely different field, and he asked if she could tell him more about the diet she went on, so he could include it in the book he was writing! Absolutely shameless! She told him no.

[@Bunny-pr8gw]

@@IAmStillHere-ws4jc I don’t see why that’s a negative thing? Depending on what his patients need, it may be a good option for them.

[@hitsugiluva]

Dr youn knew exactly what he was saying when he said it “doesn’t sound so healthy” yeah it doesn’t SOUND healthy but show me a paper where it actually says it ISNT healthy. It’s fear-mongering.

[@JuMiKu]

Yeah. Quack-rhetoric on the level of the "Oh no! We are eating yoga mats!"-girl

[@IAmStillHere-ws4jc]

I mean, injecting botulism toxin into a person’s face doesn’t sound healthy either, but he doesn’t have a problem with that.

[@hedgehog3180]

If you give the chemical name of most things they don't sound healthy but that's just because IUPAC nomenclature uses a mix of German, French, Latin and Greek and that sounds weird to a lot of people. Like would you eat octadecacarboxylic acid? Probably not but that's just the chemical name for a fairly common type of saturated fat, and I only went with that because I can't remember the naming convention for unsaturated fats.

[@xandermin]

I'm so glad these plastic surgeon influencers are being called out by more people! Private cosmetic plastic surgeons have a vested interest in making people insecure because that's how they get the majority of their clients, so IMO a lot of their advice should be taken with a grain of salt.

[@cameronmueller-harder3916]

Nooooo a grain of salt is so so harmful for your hair! Don’t take them with a grain of salt, instead buy With Lüv No Bad Ingredients Shampoo, link in bio!!

[@zombiedoggie2732]

I follow plenty of fashion histoy KZbinrs, and one, I think it was Karolina, that pointed out that beauty trends change every 5 to 10 years. What is the 'ideal body' is now, won't be 10 years from now. We are constantly chasing an 'ideal' that was once acheived through foundation garments such as strategic padding by going the plastic surgery route. (Yet we act like we are so much more "enlightened" than our great grandparents on this matter.)

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

@@zombiedoggie2732 The videos pointing out the Kardashians repackaging themselves into new silhouettes + features this past year bears this out. Karolina is awesome. Fashion history is a great branch of YT.

[@Gadlaru]

I’m a doctor myself, but I’m aware that doesn’t mean I know everything about health and body care. In fact, I feel constantly confused and frustrated when I try to get real, scientific information about hair or skin care, because the internet is full of misinformation, and I’m not familiar with this area of medicine and chemistry. Please, keep up you work debunking harmful myths and arrogant people. Also, I would love to hear you talk some day about oily hair care and myths, because seriously, I can’t find the right information anywhere.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

Thanks for saying this. I really admire doctors who come to understand how provisional + boundaried their education is, which is so hard when up until residency + beyond, you are taught . I've been chronically ill since childhood (rare autoimmune) & have built a really great relationship with my main physician. Over the years, we've had discussions about what + how he was taught in med school vs how I conceptualize medicine & how that's changed with my experiences. I was something like his 3rd ever patient, & he's about a decade younger than I am, & it's been a really unusual but informative experience to have built up that much trust + honesty + good communication over the years. I appreciate it so much when he tells me the limits of his experience or education, even if it blows my mind or scares me temporarily. To me, a good ally in my life + health will not just tell me what they know, but also be upfront when their knowledge is running out of road. People who have you on their medical team have the makings of a good ally in you.

[@gracesmiley3364]

I need actual oily, fine hair advice too because I am STRUGGLING 😭 I was told to avoid silicones not because they're dangerous but just because they will weigh down my heavy fine hair and take away my volume but now my ends aren't as soft as they were when I was using silicone so im stuck 😔

[@Satunei]

You just made me realise that the phrase 'avoid like a plague' is no longer valid, because people, in fact, do not avoid the plague

[@MoonAddict2024]

😂 Exactly, they even fought for rawdogging the plaque by protesting against masks.

[@beige_ricaforte]

Lmaooo 😂😂

[@hedgehog3180]

Suddenly Medieval Europe seems a lot less weird.

[@missconstruct6968]

​@@hedgehog3180at least they didn't understand how germs worked and had to dump their shit in the streets so .... In a way they're actually less dumb because they didn't really have a choice in the plague

[@Hebiscus998]

@@MoonAddict2024yeah, because Dr Fauci was caught admitting the masks do nothing. Keep up.

[@thescarletflower]

As the fact checker of the family (I'm a PhD student) my mother always sends me videos or pieces of news she gets on WhatsApp (the nurturing ground of misinformation) and when I send her the article or information that debunks the post, she'd thank me and forward MY message to the person who sent her the false news, I used to ask her why is she forwarding obvious misinformation? she'd reply: I'm not, I'm sending it to you only to get the real information .... I wish more people are like my mother

[@tessapal]

I wish my mother would be more like yours! She doesn’t even question things, just accepts anything she reads online as absolute truth. As a former English major with a huge focus on digital literacy and research, it drives me wild.

[@yachishairclips2250]

Your mother is peak attitude to have... always question things presented to you

[@Tattooedgaymer]

I think my mom gets annoyed when I correct her on things lol. My brother and I are full of random, and most time useless, information lol

[@jeishiikanzaki]

​@Tattooedgaymer My mom doesn't like being corrected either lol. She makes it about me thinking I'm smarter or shitting on her opinions. I'm like but this is science and facts mother.

[@sunshine5777]

I wish mine were like yours. Mine send me articles and clips thinking they know better even though I have a PhD in cell biology and work as a scientist 🙄

[@monkiram]

As a medical doctor, I know very little about the vast majority of the things you talk about. Medical school is mainly focused on diseases (their causes, how to treat them, how to prevent them, etc), and even the years and years that we train aren't enough to even cover all of that as thoroughly as needed to treat rare and difficult cases. It's simply not possible for any one person to know everything there is to know about the human body/biology, which is why we have specialists. The time we spend learning about cosmetic science is negligible to none. What we DO spend a lot of time learning is how to assess the validity and reliability of scientific research, which is why we absolutely should know better and be held to a higher standard for spreading accurate information. And then when you add to that the weight that people put on what doctors say, we have a lot of public responsibility and should be held accountable for it. PhDs on the other hand don't have the broad, general knowledge of medicine that doctors do, but know a lot more about a very specific topic. So in that topic, they will be much more well-informed than almost any doctor. To simplify it: doctors know a a little bit about everything in the body; PhDs know everything about 1 topic. This is why I will put more weight on what Lab Muffin says regarding molecular cosmetic science than any doctor (with dermatologists being a close second). I have learned a lot from your videos!

[@nancycersonsky1170]

I too am a physician and concur with the above comment. MD’s should not comment on these topics they are not trained in. It is very bad to use your degree to gain credibility and publish information that you know nothing about.

[@nancycersonsky1170]

It’s a tragedy that there are anti vaxers causing so much mis-information. Vaccines have eradicated several communicable diseases and helped the population in general. There is no association with autism. The small paper which was published has been withdrawn due to poor science.

[@kaleidospiked]

Absolutely this!

[@cloud2018]

I will give credit to people who call themselves doctors on the internet who are actually medical doctors because usually in these spaces they are chiropractors telling your vaccines are bad while wearing scrubs. No one knows everything but degrees and titles sometimes make people think that they do.

[@Linds-pp3lz]

It's important to be smart enough to know what you don't know I think Neil De Grasse said something similar. I also really respect people who can acknowledge if they were wrong about something and be open to learning and growing without doubling down on what they previously said and having their ego get in the way of listening to others who may know more about a certain subject than them.

[@kaleidospiked]

Such a GOOD video! I'm a medical doctor and yes, I think we should be holding doctors to a higher standard. I get really annoyed when people use their authority bias to spread misinformation, or when people talk with so much authority without actually knowing the facts... so it's really wonderful to see you talking about the psychology behind that too. Also, I really don't get how some people can be so suspicious and question things like vaccines (which has a ton of evidence-based research backing it), and then turn around and completely believe other things without questioning it at all, like formaldehydes or silicones being bad, just because one random person said it.

[@amandapen8946]

I worked as a hairstylist for a long time and it always surprised me how many people unknowingly needed instruction on hygienic practices. I was happy to help out but I really think these tik tok claims focus on products being the problem and not troubleshooting people's actual habits. I love your videos and the science!! Hairstylists need more education in science like this and not PR info from product companies. We can play a big part in spreading misinformation too.

[@dont_harsh_my_mellow]

Do you have some recs on dandruff products? I’m getting desperate. lol. 😅

[@Sebastian-Draegon]

My mom never taught me how to shower or brush my teeth. I learned when I was an adult that I was doing it wrong because I taught myself when I was like 5 or something so turns out I've been doing it all wrong not to mention that I hardly took care of myself as a child so now I have 2 front teeth dying because of it. A huge part of why these "clean products" have so much influence is because people never knew what they were doing in the first place so now they think these people have the answer. What you do is just as important as what you use. Doesn't matter what toothpaste you use if you don't brush your teeth properly to begin with. This is a very hidden and overlooked issue. We need actual hygiene classes as dumb as that sounds because my parents failed me but it's still my responsibility to fix it as an adult.

[@tuptaju5531]

@@dont_harsh_my_mellow really depends on what products you use, how often and so on tbh you might not have dandruff (caused by fungus I believe) which requires medical attention, but just very dry skin that flakes off (possibly because of using too harsh SLS shampoos too often), in which case switching to a milder shampoo and only using harsh one once a week or two might help - btw, if your skin is dried out, it will actually produce more sebum/oil and feel oily, which in turn makes people turn to products that are even more drying out the skin I believe scalp peelings/scrubs are also helpful for getting rid of the dry skin, but you should know first if it's dry or actual dandruff

[@IAmStillHere-ws4jc]

@@tuptaju5531 I had what I thought was dandruff for YEARS. Turns out it was dry flaky skin, and dandruff shampoos made it worse. I didn’t even know there was a difference!

[@preciousmourning8310]

@@tuptaju5531 Any shampoo can be harsh, with or without sulfates. The idea that your hair being "stripped" causes excessive oil is a myth.

[@EchoFreckle123]

I think people have to remember what just because Dr Youn is a plastic surgeon doesn’t make him a DERMATOLOGIST. He says his like is “natural” which is better for you… which is kind of rich coming from someone who regularly puts silicone into peoples bodies.

[@Astrophel24]

Exactly. I despise all online plastic surgeons [and the industry itself]. All of them always talk about "natural beauty" being important while at the same time working in the industry that thrives off of people thinking they're "naturally" ugly. Despicable.

[@MrJulienn]

It was about time someone put dr Youn back in his place. To each their own lane

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

He won't see this unfortunately, he blocked me a long time ago 😂

[@EchoFreckle123]

@@LabMuffinBeautyScienceoh my goddddd that’s so shady of him!

[@IAmStillHere-ws4jc]

@@LabMuffinBeautySciencewow. That just confirms my suspicions about what kind of person he is.

[@lox1844]

wow 😅😂@@LabMuffinBeautyScience

[@moonbyeol9130]

@@LabMuffinBeautySciencewow, it literally makes me want to unfollow him. I watch him for entertainment mostly, but I don’t like people who can’t take criticism.

[@shilohbuckle3134]

The comparison between clean beauty and the anti-vaccine crowd was something I’d never thought of but made a huge amount of sense! Thanks for bringing awareness to this kind of bunk pseudoscience, this stuff drives me more and more crazy the farther I get into my biochem degree

[@zoeberry33]

Book smart is not always smart. I think plenty of Dr's have proven this theory

[@VictoriaBick]

Maintenance phase podcast has an ep all about the wellness to antivax to qanon pipeline. So good!

[@TheeLynnChase]

not any Vax but anti fake given prior to clinical trials Vax, for sure. I stayed in an RV that had formaldehyde in the cabinets. I am one of those 1% ers. So with 350 million people that's 350,000 people that could hear you say how it isn't bad for you and get really harmed. Everyone is different. As for the double shampoo on the label, having seen the scalp under a microscope after you wash the first time it kind of loosened out up but the gunk was still cleanly visable until the second wash. Go look under a microscope.l, do the experiment. it's not a dish or like a dish. Lol didn't debunk anything. Have you taken your 8th booster vaccine that doesn't prevent the disease yet? better go get it!

[@linseylinsey]

I'm glad she brought up this concern via a public health lens. I'm a Master's of Public Health student and mis- and disinformation is something I've been following and researching. This brings up another compelling reason to keep looking into this in the public health field. Unfortunately, we have a lot of things to worry about 🤪

[@zuzuspetals9281]

@@zoeberry33You’re talking about Dr. Fauci I presume.

[@aliceatrocious]

Im really thankful for people like you. I grew up with a antivaxer mother, who believes in a lot of this really weird misinformation and pseudo science, so ive been trying to kind of re-educate myself on things of this nature. Its crazy how many products ive been scared to use for so long, all because of what my mother drilled into my brain as a child. Seriously, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

[@nari5161]

My mom never questioned our Dr's recs growing up, but called me when I was in college crying and apologizing for vaccinating me bc she didn't know she was hurting me. I was a bio major so I'm at the bus stop like oh god, no, let's go over this real quick. I'm sorry about your mom, and would recommend hbomberguy's autism/vaccine video about Andrew Wakefield, not a coocoo but a conman preying on parental anxiety to manufacture demand for a patented spaced out vaccine.

[@Zectifin]

I love when people say "X ingredient will dry out your hair!" thats the point of shampoo. to remove the oils. if its getting too dry and brittle you're using something that is too strong or you're washing it too much. not everyone needs to wash their hair daily. everyones hair and scalp are different.

[@taylorhillard4868]

Also, you can just.....put oils back on it. I work outside in the dirt and so I do have to wash my hair almost every day....but when I do I just put the conditioner in after i rinse out the shampoo, and that keeps it good until the next time. That's literally what those two products do. Shampoo is a surfactant to strip oils away, conditioner is literally just an oil in a carrier fluid that makes it easier to apply.

[@0ne24la]

Do u shampoo twice ​@@taylorhillard4868

[@TheGooglyminotaur]

Thanks for saying “not everyone.” Most people go “everyone is different! But if you have to go three days or you’re not doing it right, stupid.” I have fine, oily hair. I’ve tried everything to avoid, including hanging out with dirty hair. No difference in my clean hair if I use a shampoo and conditioner that works well for me daily. Why do these people need to shame? People are weird as hell.

[@maximummax69]

WHY would a creator even mention the OGX lawsuit if they "don't know the ins and outs", as in, don't know anything about the lawsuit. SO basically "Don't use it cause idk there might be lawsuits about it I think"

[@persapphone]

It gets clicks and shares

[@allyj4322]

She called it an “alleged law suit” Like, alleged by who? Is there a lawsuit or not? Is she using the term “alleged” to avoid a suit from OGX for false information (idk the corporate version of defamation)? So funny

[@maximummax69]

@@allyj4322HAHA YEAH I noticed that too, like a lawsuit is actually the secret meeting of a cult we're not supposed to know about....

[@AutumnFalls42]

Omg yes!

[@notenoughtreble]

The fact that Dr. Youn blocked you says ALL you need to know about his integrity as a person and a doctor. As a hairdresser, Monet is the BANE of my existence. The amount of women I’ve had in my chair that got sold Monet by a “friend” and it completely trashed their hair, is more than I can count. And if you say ANYTHING on instagram, the “partners” that sell it will call you all sorts of rude names and imply you don’t know how to do hair… which is funny because, they don’t even have a cosmetology license.

[@geraldinelafayette1838]

And that sucks bc I loved dr youn but I also love Michelle. I like Michelle more bc she just goes STRAIGHT to the facts baby!! Dr youn can be a bit gimmicky… idk.

[@iloveprivacy8167]

Dr Youn *blocked* her? Wow: that's an unfollow for me. Accountability is critical. (My respect for him would have gone UP had he accepted the critique & issued a correction to his vid.)

[@lauren8627]

Surgeons are often fragile AF.

[@ingloriousbetch4302]

MLMs are cults... many in the literal sense of the word. Anyone on any of my friends' lists that I find out is selling an MLM is an instant block.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

I have a LOT of skin-reaction allergies. One of the big ones that cause some confounding for a dermatologist? Aluminum. So I just pick shampoo based on price and whether it contained aluminum laurel/laureth sulfate or sodium laurel/laureth sulfate. For me, Aluminum is no-go, sodium is the fallback. - Also, only wash my hair when it feels or looks dirty. edit: Sometimes my hair gets clean in one lather and rinse, sometimes it takes as much as three.

[@lazenbear]

The frustration of dealing with medical doctors who tell you about your work when you've spent 4 years doing a PhD on that one thing and they had a 2 week tutorial on it.

[@Artifying]

I recently got my nail technician certification and I am so frustrated at the lack of good information about aesthetic products. Your channel is a breath of fresh air!

[@haveyoutakenyourmeds]

I got blocked by a hairdresser on tiktok that did a whole series on how bad silicone and sulphates were and pointing out all the "bad" affordable shampoos. She then did a series of the shampoos she does recommend including the one she personally uses... all of them over £25 a bottle and all of them contained dimethicone and SLS.

[@dw1n3]

That definitely angers me the most, people going out of their way to shade affordable products in praise of high end or indie products, no hate to indie sellers, I'm sure their products can be amazing, but the subconscious classicism is so annoying.

[@stealthis]

If s&s are so bad, then why the hell has MATRIX used them for their entire businesses? She really is out here saying that salon brands that will never die don't know what they're doing.

[@sazkawa9336]

Who was it?

[@marions.3657]

Honestly that why I love manes by mells, she doesnt fearmonger but she doesnt proclame it's all perfect.

[@Hair8Metal8Karen]

There's so much elitism in the beauty industry. The anti-poverty bias is shocking.

[@ollievendor7413]

Reminds me of every "wholesome" rags to riches stories where someone was lifted out of poverty because they were naturally beautiful. And then decades later they talk about how rich people just wanted to use them and their body for fun and games.

[@stringcheese6833]

I guarantee there are several brands at Ulta that are much worse (Devacurl comes to mind), but it's always the brands that are inexpensive and available everywhere that are the problem. I know Tati has kind of gone off the deep end, but I always respected her for doing videos showing off drug store makeup.

[@jadecoolness101]

@@stringcheese6833 "drug store makeup" you know what's cheaper than drug store makeup? No makeup. It's actually insane that women are expected to paint a whole new face over their face every day to be considered "decent". Holy. Crap.

[@stringcheese6833]

@@jadecoolness101 I don't know why you are preaching at me. Poor women should have access to makeup that is affordable. Some of us enjoy being able to put on a red lip for a date. I have no clue where you got this talk of expectations from, but that is not what I was referencing. Poor people are allowed to enjoy things, and yelling about how it's cheaper not to wear makeup when affordable options are mentioned has classist undertones.

[@jadecoolness101]

@@stringcheese6833 ah, yes, "classism" is when feminism, I guess. What's classist is supporting the industry where people (women) pay money solely on appearance which directly contribute to the social expectations and beauty standards placed on women. "Let people enjoy things" has to be the laziest deflection ever said in response to any solution given for the unrealistic beauty standards which women themselves reinforce by "enjoying" the makeup they slather on every day so that no one has the misfortune of realizing they have human skin. The fact that beauty is tied to products you buy is inherently classist. It is not classism to point that out lmao.

[@CalebCalixFernandez]

Also, I learned about this recently. They're using the logical fallacy called Appeal to emotion. Instead of properly educating the public about any giving topic, they appeal to their emotions (fear, anger).

[@risxra]

Fr, learning about logical fallacies made it so much easier for me to spot when someone is pushing something without substantial proof. I’d highly recommend looking them up for anyone who isn’t familiar with them, especially because social media can be so inundated with mis/disinformation

[@dangerbunnyy]

also appeal to authority!!!

[@ggundercover3681]

@@dangerbunnyywas about to say.

[@charisma-hornum-fries]

Yet he tries hard to appeal though ethos. It just doesn't work anymore.

[@lisawallace1741]

F.U.D. fear uncertainty and doubt vs. F.A.B. Facts advantages benefits

[@ravennaprojects]

Frankly at this point someone wearing their scrubs in a TikTok is a red flag; I’m glad we have people like you playing whack-a-mole with this crap lol

[@Micas7920]

Whack m-a-mole 😂😂😂😂

[@Kittycouture_xox]

Quack-a-mole

[@spacewren]

i'm not against this at least in the UK if you work for the NHS (the public healthcare provider private will probably be same), you're not allowed to wear your uniform outside of work cause of the whole ya know cross contamination

[@skinnypomegranate]

Honestly all of TikTok is becoming a red flag; the amount of time I spend scrolling past videos because they all say "endorsed" or "link to my tiktok shop here" or "promotion" like. Everything is an ad now.

[@burgerpowder8]

im so glad i found this channel. despite only having 2b-2c wavy hair, it feels nearly impossible to get a clear answer for hair-care without spending hundreds of dollars for professional help or wasting money buying new products til it works. i love how you just get straight to the point and present the facts instead of trying to start a new viral trend or promote extremes.

[@rosemangofairy]

As someone with curly hair it feels impossible to know which are science-based and which are misinformation. It sucks that there just hasn't been much studies for curly hair. I use a sulfate free shampoo purely just to keep my curls intact, not because I'm scared of sulfates. However, there has been soo much dandruff in my hair it sucks ☹️. But clarifying shampoos are hard to find near me, or frustratingly super expensive.

[@-ruubi-7270]

​@@rosemangofairy ofc this may not work for you, but for clarifying I just use Nizoral. I have 3a/3b hair but it's fine and thin, so instead of using a dedicated clarifying shampoo, I use Nizoral once a week. it's got sulfates but no silicones. for my other wash of that week I use the tj's tea tree shampoo

[@rosemangofairy]

@@-ruubi-7270 wow thanks for the tip! 😺💛💛

[@cicadeus7741]

Hair is marvellously varied. My husband double cleanses 1-2 times a week, conditions and oils the ends., he has almost 3 foot long hair with an oily and flaky scalp. His roots get dirty fast. My mom has thin, normal scalped hair. She shampoos and conditions once or twice a week with a basic set and her hair is stunningly soft and shiny. I have wiry, thick stranded and curly hair with a dry scalp. I wash with just water 2-3 times a week, i condition once a week, i oil 3-4 times s week and i avoid shampoo unless absolutely neccesary. Its helped me get my natural curl pattern back and my hair just doesnt get greasy or flaky. Everyone has completely different requirements. You really just have to experiment 🤷‍♀️

[@jaebyrd4608]

Yeah for me I have dermatitis so it helps me to wash every few weeks with a salicylic acid shampoo but when I do I usually cleanse again with a moisture shampoo because that's what my hair responds to. When I skip the moisture shampoo my hair gets dry and tangled even after conditioner but double cleansing helps the conditioner penetrate better. However, that's only when I use dandruff shampoo

[@jaebyrd4608]

My sister has a similar scalp condition but my method didn't help her at all.

[@LeAlienn]

Not to be an urbanist in the comments of a haircare video but imagine if these tiktok girlies and boys who warn against trace amounts of benzene in your beauty products talked about the dangers of combustion car emissions on our health instead.

[@frozenyogurth]

For fucking real lmao

[@kittye8340]

No honestly 😂

[@xandermin]

spot on!

[@HANBIN97]

😂💯👌🏻

[@moemoeanisong]

Imagine being a science person working for years and years to help humanity with their dandruff issues, doing tests in laboratories and on humans and all, spending their effort and money on their work, and some tiktok just tells them to avoid your product like the plague

[@JC_923]

Some tiktokers who probably failed chemistry at school

[@anondimwit]

@@JC_923 or dropped out at 16

[@lwolfstar7618]

I swear you're like Anne Reardon of beauty/ health sciences, debunk nonsense, lovely camera presence, and top notch integrity ❤

[@carolsayre7364]

I love Anne.

[@Aimee0206]

I was not expecting to hear Anne mentioned here lol. I absolutely *love* her videos.

[@Polyeurythane]

I love Ann but at the same time there are times where she gets things wrong but never acknowledges it and it’s kind of soured her to me a little bit. Like her recent debunking video involving the pine needle soda. Multiple people have been saying in her comments (to the point the Topics beta had several surrounding it) that it’s a traditional soda made by multiple different cultures using traditional methods, so she essentially fearmongered about wild yeast and put down a POC (Chinese) creator sharing a traditional recipe whether she meant to or not. She also in a previous (probably years old now) video didn’t see the point of having a tortilla press when tortilla presses are a big part of Mexican cultures. I love Ann really I do, but I wish she did research into other cultures and admitted fault when she has that lapse in research. Also it sucks to say that she used AI for the portraits of the two people in the same pine needle soda video when she was talking about the medical scam. I don’t know if she generated them herself or someone else did, but given how AI is trained off of stolen information/art from the internet, it’s kinda scummy to use and I hope she acknowledges it and doesn’t use it again in future videos if she doesn’t publicly say anything about it.

[@yennefer440]

​@@Polyeurythane Thank you, I also don't like how dismissive she is of other cultures.

[@karisamendes]

Fully agree, saw this and thought that the level of professionalism and knowledge is soo similar what Anne brings on debunking terrible posts and videos

[@A_Amazi]

I used to be obsessively afraid of “chemicals”. I’m not sure what turned my view of things around, but I know occasionally the fear still gets me. So glad I found you! I think it will help with my anxiety over some products.

[@daniellemartin9896]

If you start to stress about it, remind yourself that water is a chemical and too much can be dangerous. It's the dose that makes the poison.

[@fractalfelt]

my GOD the "ppl aren’t even avoiding the plague" hit me so hard I had to start crying woaaaah thank you for being real. I adore you

[@jenluv]

Michelle, you are my hero. Seriously. Thank you for everything you share with the public. Because...why IS she wearing a stethoscope to talk about hair products? It's giving "I'm not a professional, but I play one on social media."

[@BelsaliasMarymaeh]

I would love a haircare video for curly hair specifically. There are so many ingredients that aren't "curly girl approved" & I have no idea if there's any truth to this. Loved this video as always

[@Moonwillow76]

You could try starting out with Manes by Mell and Gena Marie for this. Mell is a hair stylist specialised in curly hair and she's currently studying trichology, she has a very scientific approach to things. Though I would love a Lab Muffin video about this as well. (I'm only naming these two because they're my curl/hair type-type 3. If you want more details on type 4 hair, then I'm not sure if it would be as helpful.) As a fellow curly haired girl who researched as much as I could, what I got is that those "bad" ingredients should be a personal choice, for e.g silicones work great for some people, but other people's hair react badly to them. The curly girl method works amazing for some, but others had a lot of hair issues with it. It all boils down to what works for you personally. But it's always great to understand the science behind things, I greatly enjoy this part of my curly life haha

[@vz5242]

I agree! This would be THE BEST! Please make a video about this

[@kr59137]

A lot of the "not curly girl friendly" stuff comes from people only co-washing.

[@BelsaliasMarymaeh]

@@kr59137 that's good to know, thank you!

[@Zombii_x]

Honestly most of it is trial and error. Obviously you don’t want to use 739 products each day, as this’ll just weigh it down and make the hair feel awful. Cost comes into play too. Usually I stick with Umberto Gianninis products as they don’t irritate my scalp, and add a good moisturising conditioner. From my experience, although fairly limited, a lot of the curly brands just make my hair feel greasy, or want to hold curls in place with a sticky mousse. I much prefer avoiding any leave in stuff & letting my hair air dry. Learning different plaits is also very beneficial. Curls aren’t perfect, and we should relish in this.

[@mayman3310]

I'd love more haircare content from you, like covering the basics because it's so much more confusing compared to skin care

[@bee__soup]

Yes, I would live to see more basics about hair care!

[@ericapoe]

Agreed.

[@latristessdurera8763]

Definitely, I’m on my hair care journey this year and appreciate all the advice.

[@risxra]

This comment is so interesting to me because I find skincare to be far more daunting than haircare (part of why I subbed to this channel). Might be because my mom has been taking very good care of her curly dyed hair for most of my life, but it seems pretty simple to me. Not trying to flex, just genuinely reacting to the vastness of the human experience, I guess😂 If you don’t mind my asking, what about haircare is most confusing to you? I’m interested to know what kind of ~insider info~ I didn’t know I had lol

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

On a scientific level, I find both fairly challenging. People say "you must use niacinamide" or "you must avoid parabens". I go "okay, why?" and then my heart sinks a tiny bit because I know I'm going to be on an interesting, but potentially lengthy, learning process.

[@emerald8745]

I used to wash my hair once and had to clean it the next day or the day after. But, I came across Blowout Professor and followed his directions of washing twice, using your fingertips for scrubbing, and cleaning your brushes. I now can go 8 days before I need to use dry shampoo and day 10 is when I wash. This advice has saved me time and money.

[@llaurenscarter]

Yeah, I think his explanation of how to double wash is better. I've been doing it too. The second wash takes very little shampoo, and I've noticed it helps my scalp stay cleaner longer too.

[@TheeLynnChase]

yup I don't always do it, I don't want to over do anything, but yes, I like it when I do.

[@marnie9063]

This is my approach too. Wash twice, condition once, massage the scalp thoroughly, and a conditioning mask once a fortnight as I have bleached hair (bleached and toned silver). I don't heat style it (except for things like weddings and special occasions, or when I'm at the hairdresser every few months), it air dries, all I do is brush it once a day and occasionally tie it back in a pony for housework. My hair is beautifully soft despite my living in a very hard water area, and the silver toner lasts a good 10-12 weeks rather than the expected 6-8 because I wash it so rarely (I obviously wash my body more often!).

[@ashrowan2143]

That is just anecdotal evidence though. I've never double washed my hair ever. I easily go a week before my hair starts to show any signs that it's been a while since I washed, if I really need to push it I can get close to 12 days though admittedly by then my hair starts to look frumpy

[@AschenDog]

@@ashrowan2143 It ultimately comes down to what your own body needs, because we aren't all carbon copies with the exact same skin and hair requirements.

[@Rebecca640]

I switched to silicone free and sulphate free years ago, because many people told online, that products containing them are bad for the hair. I wished I hadn't, my hair got worse. Today I am back to elseve, and my hair is better than ever😊 I used to use it in the past for years and loved it. Just use what you like, don't listen to this people thinking they know what they are talking about...

[@acewingate6993]

Dr Youn has spread some of the worst misinformation

[@muminab9701]

When he started he was better, now it’s all about selling his products!

[@nadiahassan5307]

@@muminab9701I feel Dr V is like that too!

[@carihan1946]

I really dislike that guy

[@ningningssplitends]

​@@nadiahassan5307 IKR she's shading every other brand except her's

[@blaah9999]

@@nadiahassan5307dr v?

[@Kay-vf8wu]

Anyone wearing fancy scrubs (especially in England) is an instant eyebrow raise for me because scrubs aren't to be worn outside of your allocated work area (as a general rule of thumb). It's all for show. Especially with a stethoscope. Also the English lady in this is probably not even medically trained despite the outfit, but did a specialist course on aesthetics (which is becoming a major issue).

[@daniellemartin9896]

I'm the US most professionals that wear scrubs, get dressed at home so they spend a lot of time wearing them outside of work as well

[@trippyhippyy]

It’s giving “I was the mean girl in high school” vibes for me😭

[@JB-bm1to]

Yeah, I'm in the US and haven't worked in a hospital in years, but neither myself nor my coworkers made a habit of doing that either. It's weird and nasty as fuck. Infection control is of MASSIVE importance. So why on earth would we walk around in our scrubs outside of work. I even would wear leggings and a tank top under my scrubs, then take off the scrubs & put them in a melt away bag before I got in my car so and drive home in the leggings. Then pop them in the washer in the bag. I sideeye anyone who I see wearing scrubs out of work all the time. Or assume they're in hospitality/cafeteria and that's why they're wearing scrubs outside of work.

[@trashqueeen]

Turns out anyone can just buy scrubs too

[@Shetooktothewoods]

@@JB-bm1to Same! I see people in scrubs at a salad bar in the grocery store and just full body shudder. THOSE ARE DIRTY CLOTHES! Ew. Just ew.

[@missl1775]

OMG your point about clean beauty reinforcing fears and misinformation that could lead to healthcare risks? I never saw that specific downside to it. It's so good to be aware of where education is needed

[@Fiona_fml]

Idk why my algorithm has been gatekeeping you from me cuz I have been dying to see thoughtful evidence-based beauty content like this for ages and you’ve been providing it all this time!

[@christina3115]

I love that you mentioned COVID as being a possible reason for hair loss! This really isn't talked about much (NONE of the risks/effects of COVID are discussed enough), and with so many people uninformed about this, it definitely adds to the misinformation and disinformation going around about ingredients in beauty products, medications, and vaccines.

[@ktburger659]

I also lose hair when I’m on a calorie deficit - too much calorie deficit can make your body stressed and it drops hair. With the popularity of fad diets, I bet it’s causing some hair loss that confuses people!

[@gasparinha]

Yes to both of these! I lost hair from COVID stress, then again from weight loss (for health reasons as much as anything else). I did initially think it might be my shampoo - but my hair also got curlier in 2020. Between all this and perimenopause, it's a wonder I have any hair left. (I'm still in mourning for my thick, zero-effort, air-dry blowout hair. I'm 46 with no grey, and I'd trade grey for hair loss in a heartbeat.)

[@victoriancarwash4393]

i got covid TWO TIMES and i got so much weaker.healthwise my immune system sucks. i have thin hair as well. im in so much supplements but it could only do so much😢 never got back to my peak health

[@bandana_rathore]

​@@ktburger659 yes. Esp when the deficit doesn't have enough protein and fats. It leads to bad bad hairfall.

[@FR-oz9px]

@@ktburger659Iron deficiency can cause hair loss/thinning as well.

[@greenbellpepper4726]

It’s such a breath of fresh air to see someone debunk misinformation like this! Keep doing what you do Michelle!❤

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

She's brilliant at conveying complex information and concepts in accessible language.

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Thank you! 🥰

[@trinitysid]

As someone with medical anxiety, I very much appreciate your videos. It's overwhelming how much fear-mongering there is out there.

[@kagitsune]

Jen Luv is a fellow wonderful person to watch to calm your anxieties 😊

[@trinitysid]

@@kagitsune Thank you so much for the recommendation! I'll check them out!

[@hedgehog3180]

Kurzgesagt has some really cool videos about the immune system that might also help you, their book is also really good. Medicine and your body are both fascinating topics and learning about them can help disspell a lot of fear.

[@trinitysid]

@@hedgehog3180 Thanks a lot! I agree that it's fascinating, and it's unfortunate that most easy and quick resources along these lines are more about how you need to prevent everything rather than how good your body actually is at maintaining, defending, and repairing itself. I can't search things for that reason unless I want an attack, so I'm really happy to hear about a positive educational source!

[@SenRyoku3]

The benzene news stressed me out so much, as batiste used to be my daily driver. I’m so glad I watched your video 🙏🏼 I know that not every news or studies are correct, but as we as a humanity have faced multiple times that things presumed safe turned out to be dangerous (like lead and asbestos) I tend to freak out too much about headlines like these.

[@hedgehog3180]

Tbf when you dig into a lot of these stories scientists often figured out that these substances were dangerous long before the public did but the industry deliberately tried to suppress the science. The latest example of this happening is climate change.

[@cloud2018]

My undergraduate degree was in history, which I did a double major in PR. I always tell people this gave me a pretty solid BS detector. I find a lot of the times on the internet is lying by omission and that I believe is worse than lying. It preys on people's lack of context and knowledge about a subject and exploits it and oftentimes when you look something up you find those grains of truth that give it additional legitimacy. I see this in every field of academia and it is frustrating. I'm not an expert on any topics but I know enough to know when something sounds a bit too convenient. If you have to dig deep to find the deception is it a lot harder to call out and correct because those lies become entrenched and no amount of facts can fix that.

[@Mary-Anne582]

Dr Youn has bugged me for a while. The last post I saw before I unfollowed was a post about sun cream. I don't remember the specifics but what annoyed me was he reposted something without following up with any evidence or studies. He took the claims at face value. As a medical professional I feel he should be adding evidence, especially if something as serious as skin care in the sun is going to impact people's use of suncream.

[@mdml0]

I unfollowed him the moment I saw he was selling his own 'clean' beauty products and constantly making clickbait 😱 thumbnail for his videos.

[@clarewhite3004]

Oh I remember that one - he was recommending that folks only use mineral sunscreen.

[@void-one]

What did me in with him is when he was warning his followers about petroleum jelly.... Because it was called petroleum they were "clearly" putting gasoline on your skin...bruh it's vaseline...

[@hedgehog3180]

@@void-one Fucker is gonna be shocked when he takes Organic Chemistry 101.

[@jasmine1926]

I’m so grateful that, when I was young, my mom pushed back against my supplement-crazy aunt. She told me, “organic” and “natural” pills are still chemicals and mixing all of them together is dangerous. She also said, “sometimes you just need some good ole chemicals.” “Natural” ≠ “safe”. It just means less processing. It’s always stuck with me.

[@maryapatterson]

It reminds me of my very first chemistry lesson at the age of 11. We were taught that everything in the world is a chemical....organic or not!😂

[@AnthonyLago]

Literally my favorite channel on KZbin. Thank you for constantly debunking all this misinformation!

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Thank you! 🥰

[@skinnylove831]

Second this. I was getting frustrated with everyone telling me to dip H&S shampoos when they work perfectly fine for me. I needed a trustworthy person to tell me what I should believe lol. You're the best, Michelle!

[@lynca2205]

Thank you for this. I’ve been trying to take care of my hair and skin better, and I’m a pretty anxious person. It’s always good to hear a good, sensible explanation from an expert who doesn’t use fear tactics

[@wendyash6915]

The industrial hygiene motto comes to mind. The presence of a substance does not prove exposure and exposure does not prove disease. Thank you for your videos.

[@mercedes199x]

As a chemist not on TikTok, so much of the "cautionary information" just baffled me with their stupidity. Thank you for the debunking, lab muffin. Loving your channel!

[@colinkincaid692]

the dr. youn debunking was super needed but im losing it at the second girl's diagram,,, bestie you just repeated the same diagram twice and justified it as "thats just how it is"

[@drc4168]

As a fellow PhD I can only sit back in amazement at your pluck and uncompromisingly rigorous push back against these charlatans and "experts". Kay

[@Antigen__]

"Now this shampoo fucking sucks because I think there's like a lawsuit against them or something, I don't know the details or whatever or if it's even real, buuuuut like, yeaaaah, AVOID."

[@annaw7437]

The way you're explaining things is amazing! Fast, to the point, but also very legible!! I have ADHD and keeping focus for long is a challenge for me. With your videos, I don't have that problem x

[@Accountnolongerexists]

We desperately need to teach media literacy in school. Starting in kindergarten.

[@helmaschine1885]

It's called source criticism in school. To always analyse who the source is, even if well meaning, and to look for supporting or disproving evidence.

[@minni_sung9437]

My teachers gave us a mini media literacy classes (like a week a school year, very mini) since 5th grade (the year most the kids around here got their first phones) to at least 9th grade for me and always told us to think about who benefits from you believing what you're being told and also to look on who sponsors/created studies because companies tend to make their own studies that don't hold up to peer review to have "stats" to quote. Unfortunately barely anyone in my class took them serious because these kids had maga "covid is fake" "the earth is only 6k years old" parents telling them that schools were trying to make them gay and atheists. Yee fuckin haw. Teachers are really trying.

[@curiousone6129]

Even of more value would be teaching critical thinking.

[@sariepetersen292]

One of my main intentions for 2024 was to limit being "sold" to. For me, this involved deleting almost all of my social media in an effort to "deinfluence" myself. I just found your channel through this video, and I am astonished both by your knowledge and professionalism, as well as how validating it is to hear all of this. I'm going to add on to my intention: I no longer accept information from people who are clearly selling "fear". I used to think I wanted to go into copywriting/marketing, but I couldn't stand how manipulative it felt. Right now, seeing how frequently and successfully people are selling fear through misinformation... it's baffling. Thank you SO much for speaking truthfully and so clearly that even a layman like me can understand! I'm officially "sold" on your content (haha 😉)

[@LaRossaSelvaggia]

Correction: “An overconfidence thing that MEDICAL doctors have.” I am privileged enough to know a lot of medical doctors as well as a lot of PhD basic researchers. My humble experience has been that “MD” overwhelmingly tends to make one overconfident to the point of arrogance, where as “PhD” overwhelmingly tends to make one self-question (aka, “Do I truly have enough data to make that assessment?”) to the point of perpetual humility. Also, your take on the meaningfulness of class action lawsuits and settlements is spot on. And yeah, I have both the professional and street cred to opine such. Keep doing what you’re doing!

[@painted_k9]

In my experience, MDs still predominantly come from very wealthy backgrounds. Not all of them of course, and there are wonderful doctors of all backgrounds, but I believe some of the arrogance can be explained by the level of privilege some doctors had even whilst they were students. A lot of doors were already held open, so to speak. PhD researchers seemed more down to earth from the ones I encountered.

[@RoxasLov3r4Ev3r]

This is 10000000000% true LMAOOOOOOOOO. The type of people who want to become doctors also tend to be the ones who are obsessed with prestige/money and come from privileged backgrounds anyway. I've lost sooooo much respect and trust for doctors once my little sister started studying pre-med and we both saw how doctors ACTUALLY are and what goes on in the industry lol. And how little they actually know...like damn, you guys barely scratch the surface of ANYTHING in med school lmao!

[@crestflames492]

i recently found out ive been having hair loss when my stylist noticed it. I’m lucky that I had a good stylist who was like “hey this is something you want to get checked out by a dermatologist specialized in hair loss” instead of trying to sell me a bunch of bogus products. guess what, my hair loss isn’t from any of these products people are fearmongering about on tiktok - it’s androgenetic hair loss, which is just a hormonal and genetic type of hair loss that just happens to some people. both my stylist and my dermatologist also recommended I shampoo my hair twice and wash it twice a week (I had only been doing it once a week because my hair is dry and curly), because with products I use it was causing buildup which can worsen hair loss. they also told me there’s this paradoxical phenomenon where with dry hair if you don’t wash it enough, it can loop back around to getting greasy/oily with buildup, so you need to be careful. it was really eye opening for me. It’s all dependent on your particular hair type so im glad I had some professionals give me advice on what to do and didn’t just try and sell me a bunch of bogus products - the only new products ive been using are prescriptions the derm is prescribing to help reverse the hair loss.

[@at8121]

Happened upon this video...wow! So glad I did! Thank you so much for what you are putting out there...59 year old woman with hair loss/thinning for the past 22 years. The struggle has been so real to figure all this stuff out. What you are saying makes total sense! 🥰

[@sunbeam3658]

i stopped believing a lot of this stuff when i realized, my hair was beautiful healthy and long as a kid and my mom shampooed my hair daily with the cheapest shampoo available lol so it stopped making sense😆

[@milkeywilkie]

exactly! A lot of my friends when I was growing up were using the "cheap" or "taboo" brand hair products and they had such silky, shiny hair!

[@moonbyeol9130]

Same! I tried using „clean beauty” and my gorgeous hair got worse, but managed to get them back into good shape with drugstore products. Now I’ve started using „professional” hair care, but it doesn’t make much difference in my hair’s health. Just using them feels nicer. 🤷‍♀️

[@alsimanche]

​@@milkeywilkiemy entire life i have been using what's so called cheap brand shampoo, the easiest you can find in store, and my hair is doing just fine,i guess it juts depends on each person, what works for you won't always works the same with other people

[@tatiana4050]

​@@alsimanche I have only found expensive (still drug store) shampoos and conditioners better since I started frying my hair with bleach and dyes. Before that I was using the cheapest possible and my hair was beautiful.

[@Marskilius]

​@@tatiana4050 I'm on the same boat as you. If a person has virgin hair that's not too dry or oily they can get away with a basic shampoo and conditioner. The moment you have something going on with your hair (bleaching, dandruff, extreme oiliness/dryness) the basics won't cut it. 😢

[@antoniakenzie]

FINALLY someone who's speaking up about Dr. Youn. He puts on this feminist act but THEN in a few of his vidos he's been dragging some ladies he assumed had stuff done pretty hard. Celebrities and random women. And that was the moment where I was like "his feminist persona and that he stealthily makes his audience hate on people is absolutely atrocious" ...

[@RenaeG135]

Yes thank you! It seems like such a play from him. I unfollowed when he started commenting on Amber Heard during the trial. It was so icky!

[@LoveYourself-my9nz]

Feminism doesn't mean that you can't talk about if a woman had done something wrong! He might be wrong in these chemical related things but he simply doesn't demean any women just for being a woman. He talks about bad surgeries for both men and women. Pls don't act like radical feminists because it is ruining feminism meaning.

[@RenaeG135]

@@LoveYourself-my9nz I absolutely agree that feminism doesn't mean you can't talk about if woman has done something 'wrong'. The issue for me is that I have seen videos where he has made purposefully nasty and unnecessary comments about women and conflated the work they've had done with their moral integrity. It is absolutely not 'radical' to choose not to follow someone on social media because you believe their feminism to be a veil.

[@sps6374]

@@LoveYourself-my9nz I agree that he's mostly respectul but there are times when he's made judgmental comments over things that he seems to consider improper, but are nobody's busines. He often comes off to me as generally nice but overly prudish. And then there's the whole "holistic" peddling thing.

[@antoniakenzie]

@@LoveYourself-my9nz it's the demeanor in which he talks about them. It's judgemental and doesn't go along with the persona he's trying to portray. And he doesn't only talk about what looks "bad" in his opinion- which is judgemental, he also makes assumptions showing disgusted facial expressions and what not, and that's flat out mean sometimes. And just because he's tryna make it look like he's joking that doesn't make it less rude. If that's something you find to be amusing that's perfectly fine. I think though that talking about a persons body like that without them being able to defend themselves, having the massive audience he got, - doesn't go well with the "nice guy" persona of his.

[@klosettchen]

I usually don't comment a lot on KZbin but I must leave a comment here for the algorithm. You are the only "beauty"/skincare/haircare influencer I can watch anymore. A lot of them spread like a new wave of "old wives's tales" and frankly I hate it. You have also really helped me with my understanding of chemistry, I sadly hated it in school but needed some chemistry in university and your videos have really helped me understand chemistry and how it intersects with reality - which I always struggled to understand what these formulas have to do with the world I see and experience. You are an amazing educator and the world desperately needs more intelligent people with as much integrity as you

[@Shyx]

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[@moonlightboiii]

You can check out Dr. Dray. I follow them both for skincare advice, tips, and product reviews.

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Thank you so much, that's so lovely to hear! 🥰

[@crystalbutterfly2758]

so i just discovered your channel and i know nothing about medicine or the science of beauty/ skin care products but your videos are so informative and easy to understand. thank you for using language that makes it so everyone can understand what you’re talking about

[@Chloe-iq7-help]

Been watching your videos for years now because got so sick of "informative" videos that I knew didn't sound right but didn't have the knowledge system to justify why. Thank you for your continued educational content and contribution ❤

[@drisshansfreetime453]

kinda weird that some of these medical doctors suddenly forgot basic Pharmacology, pharmacodynamics, and pharmakinenetics

[@Xelria2]

My jaw dropped on several points of the video. Amazing how she brings facts to the table while being 0% down for the misinformation bullcrap. I have so much love and respect for Michelle!

[@r-pupz7032]

As a doctor it nakes my skin crawl seeing medical professionals spreading misinfo, especially when they heavily use signifiers of their profession in their videos to come across as a general "expert" on a wide range of topics. They went through enough training and professional experience to know better, its infuriating.

[@AlexaFaie]

I personally use sls/sles & paraben free shampoo but purely because my skin is extremely sensitive and I had spent years trying all the supoosed gentle versions containing lower amounts of them, even ones with little to no fragrance designed for sensitive skin and still ended up with sore skin. Finally found something without them in and it was so refreshing to find something that didn't hurt to use. But I also had issues with finding washing powder for washing my clothes which didn't irritate my skin. I can't use any of the biological ones and I have found 2 brands of non-bio which don't set my skin off. For me its not so much about the "clean beauty" thing, its purely a "this doesn't cause a painful skin reaction" thing. I also now use an sls free toothpaste and it was freeing to realise it wasn't meant to burn your gums when you brush your teeth. And for what its worth I'm very pro-vaccine and hate the assumption that picking products that work for me which don't contain those buzzwords makes me part of the anti-vax movement. I'm autistic & nothing rubs me the wrong way like people blaming vaccines for the neurotype I was born with. Most of the people I have personally seen talking about sls/sles free stuff are people who do have a demonstrable bad reaction to them and from what I've seen within the autistic community is that lots of us are very sensitive to a lot of products which are fine for most people. And I've yet to meet an autistic anti-vaxer. I'm sure there are some out there, but not met one yet (online or in person).

[@pirithecute3562]

I agree about post partum hair loss. When I was pregnant, I ate better, slept proper, did some exercises and supplements prescribed by gynecologist so my hair was in better health but after delivery the hair quality reduced and it fell a lot. Good thing is that information was available online and I didn't stress about it.

[@diane_5789]

Thank you for calling out Doctor Youn! I believe he is a very competent plastic surgeon, but the BS clean beauty DRIVEL he spouts annoys me so much😖. More so because he is a doctor and because he has huge conflict of interest! Since he created his "clean" skin care line, I don't trust him anymore on these subjects.

[@DiegoSanstwen]

I stopped trusting Youn when he said he felt the hands of God guiding his hands through surgery. Gurl.

[@jk-qj2qz]

HAHA YES and then talking about holistic plastic surgery and beauty. And weirdly dramatic story times and talking about driving recklessly to get to a surgery. Ok so you're gonna kill someone while driving to get to a surgery that someone else could do??? That's not something to be proud of

[@jborrego2406]

I'm a Christian, an I don't want to hear that. Like do u know what ur doing . Are u praying it not going f it up lol

[@RedXiongmao]

​@@jk-qj2qz didn't he have a storytime about doing an outpatient procedure by the light of the window during a power outage in a non sterile environment? It was stupid and risky but I don't remember the point of the story being how stupid and risky that was, and he's never done something so reckless again. Also he was shilling NFTs a few years ago

[@Ohnogoblin]

Umm …WHAT? That’s crazy haha

[@skinnypomegranate]

Right like...I'm praying for your surgery to go well but you should be the one to have the skills at the end of the day?? You can't just assume you'll do it well because "God's" on your side or something 😭😭@@jborrego2406

[@DavidCruickshank]

It's positively criminal that you don't even have 500k subscribers when so many of these dermatologist skinfluencers have millions. You videos are some of the best skin care content on youtube! Keep being awesome!!

[@Queenofcats36]

I can't thank you enough for your videos. As a science nerd, I love learning all I can.

[@Bailee_Huck]

As a hairstylist it really bothers me when other hairstylists spread misinformation without doing their own research 🙃 I try really hard to know as much information about the things I practice and teach to clients. Thank you for being a credible source of information!

[@catc8927]

LOL the salt in shampoos one - Christophe Robin literally has a scalp scrub with sea salt chunks. By that influencer’s account, my scalp should be as dry as a desert and my hair should be falling out and breaking. Instead, I have an oily scalp and long hair with no split ends ever. Thank you Michelle for doing the tedious 10x work of debunking and overcoming fearmongering.

[@tsuki3752]

while i advise against most diy beauty products, salt is probably the least egregious alongside sugar and honey as they don’t expire easily. and it makes sense to make a scrub out of it, after all, water could probably easily rinse it out. i’m sure these beauty influencers are never in salt water right? 😂

[@dont_harsh_my_mellow]

Omg that Christophe Robin scalp scrub smells fantastic and I love it too.

[@trippyhippyy]

OMG I have the same issues (super oily scalp with super long hair that’s naturally drier on the ends) and I thought any salt scalp scrubs would be too harsh to use but for Black Friday I was shopping on Kerastase’s website and I needed to add a product to hit the free gifts mark (girl math😂) and I noticed that they have sets they put together for a variety of different hair needs and I kept seeing a salt scalp scrub in most of the “oily scalp” sets so I said fuck it and got one of their sea salt scalp scrubs and HOLY COW IT CHANGED MY LIFE I used to get oily roots the day after washing my hair so bad I had to use dry shampoo every other day but when I use the sea salt scalp scrub before shampooing and conditioning my hair lasts 2 days without looking oily, sometimes 3! Also the hair near my scalp feels so much softer now that I use the salt scrub regularly and I’m having much less scalp flaking/dandruff too.

[@zvezdoblyat]

​@@trippyhippyydo you know your comment is only 2 sentences long

[@Jed7791]

Sephora brand has a salt scalp scrub with ACV and it’s a quarter of the price of the Christophe Robin 🤫

[@montananerd8244]

To add to the conspiracy theory re Head & Shoulders: even in the 80s, dandruff was embarassing but treated as no big deal, you just needed H&S. I think a lot of these product salespeople want to make dandruff a much bigger, more emotionally difficult problem precisely to increase sales. They want to bring shame back into this so they need to destroy reasonably priced options. There's very decent store brand H&S now, that makes it even harder to sell spendy stuff, so they peddle fibs...

[@GrumpyOldFart2]

I actually prefer the DHS brand because it’s the one that my dermatologist recommended and it works really well. It has a higher concentration of Zinc pyrithione than the others (2% vs 1%).

[@cfoster6804]

I agree

[@S3lkie-Gutz]

I use head and shoulders because it's approved by the national eczema association and is recommended for seborrhic dermatitis treatment, it's the heavily medicated stuff with selenium and shit in it tho so I'm probably just the exception not the rule

[@rubinaturalhair]

I agree with her about doctors. In my medical school, we didnt get taught about cosmetic skin and hair stuff. Its not our speciality as it doesnt impact health. This is why I am grateful for your channel. We can only really comment on scalp/skin conditions

[@EddwardTheSeventhSpaceWizard]

I’d love to see a whole video about silicones! I’ve always been interested in how it works and after seeing how skeptical these people were about it I definitely would like to see you talk more about it.

[@spacepirates5044]

Love your debunking! I get so annoyed by these people presenting fake crap with so much misattributed confidence

[@StopTheWorld65]

OK. My buttons have been pushed! The MDs who think they understand everything are my pet peeve. As a fellow scientist, I get it. I really do. I spent my career at a medical school in the isolated, windowless research labs, toiling away, watching each class of incoming medical students exhibit little-to-no interest in basic science. Now, on the internet, I watch people who would otherwise be skeptical of random information not hesitate to believe anything they're told by a “doctor.” What most people don't understand is the vast majority of physicians are NOT also scientists. To put it bluntly, they are essentially glorified technicians tasked with employing the science of medicine, which is carried out by, well, actual SCIENTISTS, like yourself, quietly working in laboratories for a pittance, grinding away at difficult and grueling work of figuring out what’s what with their big-ass brains, so physicians can execute on that knowledge, bask in the glory and rake in the big bucks. We need more voices like yours on the Internet, debunking pseudoscience, correcting the purveyors of disinformation, and challenging those spewing misinformation, be they hippie bloggers or MDs with egos too big for their britches. Keep up the good work! Love your channel! 👏

[@Tiorg-g1u]

Also most MDs I know who have an online presence but aren’t influencers, they usually post about actual systemic and structural problems in health care. My friend’s an OBGYN and all she posts about online is maternal health, organizing fundraisers and workshops, speaking at schools, that kind of thing. The influencer game lends itself to doctors who provide elective services so they have to market themselves, I think that’s why most are concerned with virality and followers. They definitely know how to do better but why would they fact-check or edit, that’s precious time wasted that could be used for another tiktok video. (I’m being sarcastic here btw lol)

[@walksthroughlife900]

I appreciate your work, but don't try to demean ours. If we practise as "technicians" without refining a "blunt tool" - which is what raw science is, then people will just die. Once a piece of evidence comes into clinical practise there is quite a lot of refining and individual clinician would do to apply to their own patient.

[@HeavenlyEchoVirus]

@@walksthroughlife900 yeah but you have to acknowledge the giant ego issue in the medical system, like everyone values the work of physicians (well maybe except antivaxxers) in society but the knowledge-research-authority aspect is ridiculous compared to researchers and scientists with PhDs.

[@emmamakescake]

I'm a fourth year medical student, and one of my professors, who is an MD/PhD said something one day that really stuck with me. He said that physicians make the worst researchers because they are so good at convincing people of things (like in a good way, conveying medical information to patients for example), that they will often convince themselves of their own hypotheses. Important reminder to me to always check my biases and make sure I'm actually backed up by data and not just what I "think" is right.

[@StopTheWorld65]

@@walksthroughlife900 I’m not here to diminish anyone’s work. If my observations, drawn from decades at the intersection of medical science and practice seem objectionable, that’s unfortunate, but it doesn’t alter my perspective on the field. In fact, I believe that shedding light on these issues is valuable. From my experience as a scientist working at a medical school, I’ve seen that physicians are largely trained to follow a flowchart approach: if this symptom and that symptom appear, then this treatment is applied, often with limited room for deeper inquiry. I personally experienced the painful limitations of this system with my late husband, who was treated for brain cancer at one of the country’s most acclaimed cancer centers, known for its strong research program. Even there, I had to push several “prominent MDs” to look beyond their standard protocols, as I found them surprisingly constrained by the processes they’d been taught. I’ve also observed firsthand that most physicians show little interest in keeping up with the latest science. I’ve accompanied physician friends on “continuing education” trips that could better be described as boondoggles, where the focus often seemed more on the leisure aspects than on expanding their medical knowledge. While a small number of physicians are indeed committed to ongoing research, the majority stick rigidly to established guidelines, often without adapting them to unique cases. This flowchart approach provides consistency, but it lacks the flexibility required for complex or atypical cases. As patients or advocates, we often need to push for a more thoughtful approach, even with highly trained professionals.

[@meg0769]

This channel is quickly becoming my favourite for hair care and beauty. I love your approach! Thank you!

[@LabMuffinBeautyScience]

Yay! Thank you!

[@damaracarpenter8316]

I LOVE your misinformation debunking videos! I think it's important work and you do it so well! Thank you, Dr. Wong!

[@rambobambi4853]

Love the level of integrity you hold yourself and others with similar education to! Also wave that PHD girl! You worked hard for it and deserve every bit of respect it gets you (especially if people initially dismiss you!) Love your videos ❤

[@cintiqlover]

Where have you been!!! I’m doing a chemistry in supramolecular chemistry and I love how technical a lot of this video is.

[@kjurpjdpihe9096]

I love how you're not being condescending even when explaining things that are just common sense (like the fact that cotton soaked in oil will catch fire more quickly than cotton soaked in water🤦‍♂️ )

[@mariam.a.]

The most impressive thing about your video is how respectful you keep your tone Michelle! I would flat out call these people idiots.....which is why this platform needs you!

[@rchltrrs]

Medical doctors should always be held to a higher standard when they are sharing info as a doctor. They're using their credentials to give their opinions legitimacy regardless of how ill-informed they are!

[@kaleyjanenigh]

New sub here, and I am SO. GLAD. I found you! Learned about you on another YTer's comment section. I have fallen prey to the EWG fearmongering and have tried creating a "non-toxic" lifestyle. You are teaching me so much, and you're a breath of fresh air! ❤

[@alexia3552]

04:05 thank you for the good information! I love how strict you are when it comes to holding MDs/doctors to the highest standard of scientific accuracy. It literally affects world health when doctors spread misinformation (knowingly or unknowingly) or lose trust with the populace so that doctors who DO spread correct information don't get believed. So yes! Wave that PhD, you earned it and using it to spread correct information is a public service.

[@eppie83]

I feel you on the getting dismissed for superficial reasons, I say this all the time. I’m an R&D chemist with a MS, 20 years of experience and 7 publications. I also look young, have purple hair and visible tattoos.

[@hedgehog3180]

Tbf I feel like so many people who are into natural sciences fit this description so it's insane that there's a prejudice against it. I mean go to any natural science department on any university campus and look around you, in my experience there's a 50/50 split between people who fit this description and the kind of people who just do not give a shit about how they look and just wear comfortable clothes.

[@KawaiiKandi]

We all need our own lab muffin in our lives 🥺 You’re the only person I have all notifications on for. I remember the curly girl method/community made me delve into sulfate/silicone free hair care for a moment. Worst decision I ever made as a person who suffers from dandruff from a super oily scalp. Thanks for being a light in this dark sea of misinformation.