The Scariest Movie You Haven't Seen (Zero Day)

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[@alejorag]

It's insane how good these two were at their roles, if I wasn't as familiar as I am with the Columbine shooting I'd have easily believed this was real footage. Bit of a shame none of them pursued acting further.

[@voteZDLR]

As far as I know they're not "actors" in that sense, the director found people who "felt" real. A good chunk of the movie is actually improvised, they just had a loose script. It's similar to the kids who were in another found footage movie called The Blair Witch Project. Although technically in that case they WERE trained actors they just didn't do anything else beyond that.

[@alejorag]

@@voteZDLR Ohhh, that'd make a ton of sense, kind of what I've heard referred to as "natural actors". My favorite colombian filmmaker Víctor Gaviria actually uses these a ton, he even made a documentary called "How to get birds to act" about one of his movies where the whole cast were a bunch of kids/criminals from the streets basically playing themselves. Come to think about it, I really love this technique.

[@voteZDLR]

@@alejorag oh that sounds awesome I am gonna check that out

[@michaelm4464]

​@voteZDLR basically the same thing Harmony Korine did with the movie Kids. Of course, Rosario Dawson and Chloe Sevigny did go on to act in more films, but I believe the rest of the cast didn't pursue it any further.

[@voteZDLR]

Absolutely correct.@@michaelm4464

[@absolutewuss]

This movie is actually underrated Also I don't know if people know about this but, the time the movie came out the director actually made a fake police like report website. It basically talks about all the details on the aftermath of Zero Day, Timeline of the Events, More info on the two teens, The weapons they used, Investigation on their family, and whatever happened to the tapes

[@comprexion]

do you know where i could find the website?

[@absolutewuss]

​@@comprexionJust search up 'Zero Day Movie Website' it's the first one to pop up, it's the one labeled as necocities. But I'm pretty sure it's a remake though, the original can be viewed on the way back machine with the additional photos

[@thekiller7994]

@@comprexionyou can find it on the wayback machine

[@greatestnitemare6626]

@@comprexion Try the Wayback Machine. Can't remember the name of the site though but the poster is right because I remember seeing it. I think they killed 10 people.

[@hippixie]

@@comprexion also, by going to "the 'zero day' tapes and clicking on the link to the screenshot, it'll take you to a page where you can find the original website where theres a link to the movie page and stuff

[@voteZDLR]

The idea that Eric was the mastermind/leader is a common misconception. They were both equally engaged in the plan. It could even be argued Dylan was even more invested than Eric, to be honest. He certainly was the one who seemed to be having the most fun on that day, you can hear him whooping and hollering where Eric was mostly quiet.

[@BreezyD-tr8bd]

Eric was tho

[@DoughBoyDopeBoy]

@@BreezyD-tr8bdyou fucking weirdos care too much.

[@voteZDLR]

@@BreezyD-tr8bd The only like alternative then is, if Eric WAS the mastermind, Dylan is the world's biggest puppy dog level poser in the history of mankind and he was doing everything in his power to impress Eric, and to a tragically evil fault.

[@BreezyD-tr8bd]

@@voteZDLR Dylan was apparently the first to write about the idea of the shooting in his journal so idk who is trying to impress who at that point all i know is one just wanted to die and the other was just a crazy mf

[@voteZDLR]

@@BreezyD-tr8bd oh I don't know honestly... if he was the first to write about it, that is news to me. Point is, they were both fueling each other in this entire thing. I just wonder, who mentioned it to the other one first? We know it happened at some point obviously but it's one of those things like these two were born to meet each other. Tragically.

[@foglake757]

such an unforgettable masterpiece - a film that could have easily come off as exploitive, opportunistic and “too soon” feels authentic and grounded in it’s depiction of high school alienation. one of the scariest movies i’ve seen to this day.. and mainly due to the performances of Andre and Calvin, who are so scarily convincing for two kids with essentially no acting experience whatsoever. it really drives home the fact that no one really knows what bubbling beneath the surface of angsty, misunderstood teens - it makes you connect with them, hoping that their plan is a sick fantasy and they won’t go through with it.. which makes the last ten minutes so much more horrifyingly grim. the repressed anger and undertones of a homoerotic relationship between Andre and Calvin is subtle and provocative - definitely the most fascinating and disturbing film made about school shootings in america to this day imo, great vid

[@tazz3663]

masterpiece ? it is cowardice trash! nothing more!

[@Syko1985]

Oh wow, i remember watching this when it first came out and i actually thought it was real footage of school shooters. I have brought it up in conversation many times over the last 20 years, telling people it was the most messed up thing i have ever watched. Only by watching this i now realise that it was a movie and they were actors. I remember just being absolutely stunned at the end, even though i knew it was going to happen you just thought it wouldn't, because they seemed like decent young guys who just hated school. You are never really convinced that they were actually going to go through with it, which made it all the more shocking.

[@oreosandmilk67]

Oh man, Fourth Kind scared me the same way, we didn't have valuable Internet as convenient as now lmao

[@DR_DGAF]

@@oreosandmilk67 same here!! My girlfriend and I literally were literally terrified of owls after that…

[@Ultradocker]

lol lmao what? Bro probably believed the Blair Witch Project was real based off the marketing in the late 90s lol bro

[@hughmcateer3369]

LoL, it's pretty obvious it's a movie. I don't know how anyone can watch the entire thing and come to the conclusion that they're witnessing a real event.

[@Syko1985]

​@@hughmcateer3369 if you had no knowledge at all about what you were watching, what are the obvious signs that it was a movie?

[@linasayshush]

Btw, some of the details in Elephant were thought to be true at the time, such as the shooters having been romantically involved and that Eric shot Dylan and then himself. That said, I agree that Zero Day is a much better movie, but beware - it's not just based on Columbine. It's a beat by beat recreation of it. It takes very few creative liberties, sometimes down to dialogue.

[@sassnick5757]

there's also the film We need to Talk about Kevin which goes more into the shooters childhood and how he was different from most kids. That one is a disturbing watch as well.

[@Anzner1993]

I feel like they tried to be to "Artsy" with elephant with the slow dramatic pov of each person. Then them hooking up in the shower befroe they drove to the school was pretty funny.

[@berniekatzroy]

I haven't watched elephant in ages and I do remember watching zero day.

[@paranormeow]

@@Anzner1993the thought of them deciding to give up and date instead of going through with the shooting and that saving a bunch of lives is so funny to me

[@eliottsmith6908]

​We need to talk about Kevin is a phenomenal movie​@@sassnick5757

[@kellie5476]

The title is 100% correct, this is legit the creepiest film I've never seen.

[@BonShula]

Come And See was way worse

[@leshacke1041]

This and threads(1984).

[@leshacke1041]

​@@BonShula yeah that one was pretty bad too

[@lovelyblueskies]

I’ve watched zero day a lot, I’m actually a big fan of the movie and it isn’t creepy or scary at all 😭😭😭😭

[@VivienneMarsden-ky6or]

@Kellie5476 i'm with you on that one bring the creepiest video i have ever seen and i am a horror buff.❤ and HAPPY CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR FROM D IRELAND

[@ctobolsk]

My ex husbands cousin was a sophomore at Columbine when it happened. She was never in direct danger, but I believe she knew at least a couple of the victims. That poor girl suffered for years with a meth habit she picked up in the aftermath and she nearly died. She got pregnant and was able to get clean for her baby. As far as I know she’s still doing well today, but she told me at one point that she’ll always have deep scars and lasting trauma from that day.

[@Machete87]

crazy thing i live bout an hr away from Littleton in fact my bro almost got himself enrolled in that school back in the day.

[@hotwateronwool]

Now she has a kid she gets to send off to school..

[@ConsistentlyInconsistent21]

The goldfishs nephews aunts third cousins dads brother yeah?

[@thxchucky]

that all cap u just commenting bs for attention 😂😭😭

[@ctobolsk]

@@thxchucky yeah whatever. Guess you know me irl? I think you’re just commenting for attention

[@rigormortis56]

the chokehold that this movie had on preteen tumblr girls in 2017-2019 is absolutely insane. good movie tho.

[@corvideity]

you were there to see it, i can tell lmao 👀 nice pfp

[@rigormortis56]

@@corvideity LMAOOO i most definitely was. thank u!

[@fullname3982]

I WAS THERE FOR IT lmao 😭 good times

[@hibiscius]

no way 😭 that's crazy

[@BornaDudeAlwaysaDude]

Shut up

[@lerdog]

I saw this film a few years ago and the last few moments never left my mind. I never really cry at movies, but I was in tears by the end.

[@WingedKey]

these two kids at my school who were obsessed w school shootings managed to convince the school to let them do a presentation on columbine. they just had us watch zero day and then decided to tell us all types of fun and quirky facts about eric and dylan where they just glorified and idolized them. anyway, one of those girls was my friend and she was actually pretty cool and did grow out of this “phase”. the other girl would bully me constantly and looking back on it, turns out she was more cringe than i was

[@Fuckinefor31]

Can I have their number? Or tiktok or discord?

[@thanoose7890]

@@Fuckinefor31bro stop its not happening🤧

[@Fuckinefor31]

@@thanoose7890 pls😢🙏

[@waripolo3813]

Wait.... girls can be based?

[@Fuckinefor31]

@@waripolo3813 wdym

[@AelitaVA]

Holy shit I saw Zero Day back in the day when I was like 12 on KZbin, when KZbin was basically a wasteland of videos of all kinds. I’m so happy I’m not the only one that remembers this. Wooahhh dude

[@myownbubble1]

That version of KZbin was so much cooler

[@blazingstar9638]

Right same

[@AelitaVA]

@@myownbubble1 lol I fucking agreeee - sorry for the late reply btw lmao 😂 I suck at that

[@ClevrYogi]

I saw it way back around graduation. I didn't tell anyone to watch it cause I didn't wanna seem like I idolized stuff like that. Same with that rampage movie it's like they wanted to spoon feed us that at that time because it had slowed down and they needed to push an agenda. That's why they did that sandy hook thing. Cause no one was shooting up schools anymore. That guy's dad was supposed to testify in supreme Court against a massive business he followed a paper trail and found billions of stolen money and had proof - that day. So they killed his wife shot up the school and made his kid a monster by blaming it on the whole family. Making anything he might have said in court incredible and he was no longer on the witness list.

[@ThatDudeJerm]

Another great found footage movie similar to the theme of Zero Day, and a more recent example (2013-14 I believe) is a movie called “The Dirties”. Highly recommend it.

[@deburke321]

I've heard good things I'll check it out

[@glassinjaw]

the dirties is such a good film!

[@mewxtwo]

The Dirties really captures the essence of the shooter being a pretty normal guy. The final scene of that movie is super realistic and chilling.

[@hayleynoellebroders8247]

Came here to say this; it's amazing how well that movie was able to feel so uneventful even when you knew the outcome and then still gut punch you when it got down to brass tacks. That ending is absolutely fucking haunting

[@Mr.Timwell]

This film really is impressive. It's terrifying, deep, unsettling, it really is well crafted as a film. This film is one of a kind and likely couldn't have been made today. Not just because of it's themes, but because of how common it is to do indie films nowadays.

[@jascntcdd]

i love this movie a lot, andre and cal were so good in their roles. it has stuck with me for so long.

[@radical_jon]

When he shows "bullets" to the camera, pretty sure those are nitrous oxide canisters for whipped cream 💀

[@JagerRoof]

He shows only one Nos canister i think , but no its bullets and shells

[@CakesTv1337]

If you watch the movie, he shows C02 canisters and says "C02 canisters for BB guns" then he shows .22 ammo and talks about it for a couple seconds. This video just has bad editing during that part.

[@patbly3849]

Tell me you a foo without telling me you a foo. Fsfs

[@gingahsnixx]

'bulletes de aguilla.... christina aguilla' i think about this quote from this movie way too fkn often. he shows the bullets to the camera in the actual film, it was just edited odd in this video ahaha

[@tadeuszkolak4937]

Wooo whippits

[@NegiSenseiTV]

The first few minutes had me thinking of Columbine. It's crazy how that one event changed a bunch of stuff. It was probably the first big school incident. Those of us who were in school from the 90s to the early 2000s most certainly felt the ripples from that event. So much has come out about it too. Hopefully the future generations don't see it memory holed and forgotten.

[@peazeralus]

I was a sophomore when Columbine happened. My junior and senior years were some of the most tense and weird, in terms of environment and energy. 9/11 happened at the beginning of my senior year... that didn't help anything lol

[@acismus]

when i tell my friends abt zero day i always refer to it as a horror movie

[@MykaTheDevil]

I saw this movie in like 6th grade and I was just thinking about it the other day. Such a crazy film, but a sad but true story that we cannot ignore.

[@NukePossumSpringsBand]

I watched this with my mom when I was like ten, it still had the pipe bomb making scene in it and everything. It’s a great look into the mindset of the columbine attackers

[@deburke321]

100 percent in terms of movies made about Columbine I think it’s quite clearly the best Side note this seems like a strange movie to watch with a parent at 10 years old 😅

[@guitarista67]

That’s effed up if you’re not lying.

[@_-pf_gd-_]

Your mom is cool 😎

[@NukePossumSpringsBand]

@@_-pf_gd-_she really was. 😊

[@NukePossumSpringsBand]

@@deburke321lmfao I know; both myself and my mom had a real interest in true crime, I knew tons about columbine so when we saw zero day on the shelf at the movie rental spot we grabbed it 😅

[@drewhoughtaling4017]

He didn’t go over it but theres an incredibly disturbing scene where they are shown making pipebombs and mention “we’re not testing them beforehand so if you wanna know how they work, ask a survivor.”

[@pontusbackman1863]

Lucky they did not test them though. Would they have worked, it would have been even worse.

[@Namrhof]

Watched this movie back in 2007 and it has stuck with me ever since. Truly chilling.

[@ClevrYogi]

I was graduating when I saw it this same year. Hit real close and I couldn't tell any friends to watch it out of fear I'd be looked at like I was condoning or idolizing that kind of thing. which I wasn't it shook me like the wind of change

[@anthonyferranti7018]

I remember watching this in late 2016 and thought it was tough to watch, great job to everyone for the attention to detail on this project that I didn’t know about

[@Rezifying_]

I remember watching this about 10 years ago when i was just a young teen and it disturbed me, but overtime it faded from my memory and i entirely forgot about it. Watching this synopsis instantly reminded me of how it ended and just how eerie this movie is.

[@HunterWoodlawn]

Elephant by Gus Van Sant has always been a favorite of mine, but this kind of takes the cake.. because it feels so real.

[@corvideity]

they actually put it in one of the files people found in the game sad satan where it had malware in it lol... don't recommend looking it up

[@humbleshopowner]

@@corvideity danm that's crazy

[@slucy223]

Zero day feels raw, and unfiltered. Elephant feels like it's too clean in my opinion.

[@czarnakoza9697]

its too movie like which makes it harder to immerse yourself in

[@bigbeargaming7608]

The acting is disturbing as well. The scenes when they attack the school are terrifying because of how realistic it is.

[@1kCaliber]

Idk I’m focused on how Calvin or wtv his name is looks like a Kurt Cobain rip off

[@JennaLeigh]

I watched this repeatedly when it first came out. I'm the same age as Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, and have extensively (some may say obsessively) researched the tragedy at Columbine, the events leading up to it, the investigations, the numerous stories of the survivors..... and what little we could learn about the victims. It's a fascinating glimpse into the lives of teens in middle class America at the time- how, in 1999 we were grossly behind the curve when it came to mental heath assistance for teens. We're still miles behind where we need to be. Thanks for covering this.

[@LauraSquirrel]

You can thank Reagan for destroying the mental healthcare system in this country. They wanted bad stuff to happen in the population. Problem > Reaction > Solution is this country's bedrock. It's revolting.

[@jborden18]

I've never heard of this movie, but WOW!! I'd be so scared to go back to that school, especially that 1st year. Good work bud!! A capri sun sounds real good right about now!!

[@rottingcryptid]

This used to be one of my fave movies it's so disturbing and realistic definitely recommend ALSO if you haven't I recommend watching the commentary Ben did with andre and cal it's pretty interesting

[@deburke321]

Yeah I watched it beforehand it was great, would love if they sat down and did it again 20 years later I think they’d have a lot of interesting things to say about it

[@rottingcryptid]

​@@deburke321thatd be so cool, Andre actually has a KZbin channel too he did a q&a ab zero day a little if you haven't seen those :) I think he's called funnily "ohthatandre"

[@DMaria216]

I’m so mad bc I have this downloaded on my old computer…the original one with the bomb scene…now I can’t find that version anywhere. This is good definitely worth a watch…pretty much basement tapes

[@deburke321]

Yeah that's one of the scenes I had to cut haha

[@johnjohnsonsvideoarchive6883]

I have the original DVD w/ that scene. It's not that hard to find anymore.

[@Fullmetalballsz]

Internet archive

[@noxdova]

The full movie with the bomb scene is here, on KZbin

[@mariko909]

I saw this movie in 2013 and I forgot about it, I thought it was called project zero

[@---xo3em]

there is a movie called zero hour that is about columbine maybe ur mixing them up

[@ScrewYourOptics]

​@@---xo3emwhy is Timothy McVeigh in zero hour?

[@---xo3em]

@@ScrewYourOptics wdym

[@Invis3mil]

I love this movie so much, it only gets better the more you watch it.

[@gak-man9642]

I remember watching this waaayyy back when I was doing a deep dive into Columbine. Think I had the DVD but that'll be long gone by now. Guess a refresher is due.

[@corvideity]

probably would have been a collector's item by now

[@zaythemain]

That's actually so sad DVDs can go for hundreds because of how rare they are

[@amodernalchemist432]

What!? This actually made it to the theaters?? Crazy...I assumed it was just a high school film class project. Now I gotta check it out. I think it's safe to say that most people don't like to watch the horrors of reality, they wanna see supernatural creatures/beings or killers in masks using knives, machetes and everything else around them, excluding firearms. Thanks for the heads up yo! ✌😄

[@voteZDLR]

I am sorta the opposite to be honest, I can handle gun violence in movies but I do not like when knives are used. Swords are okay for some reason, but knives? Not so much.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

@@voteZDLRthat’s because gun violence in movies is rarely realistic, shotguns and rifles will blow parts off people, collapse heads etc.

[@Tinylittledansonman]

The "horrors of reality" in that sense make terrible horror films. Especially considering people who like stuff like horror films have usually been there done that in terms of experience. So to them thats just real life, a part thats dark and most people have never seen, but not very scary, not much scarier than say driving day to day knowing youre far more likely to be mangled up or killed than you are in a school shooting. If driving's not scary why would the even less likely day to day shit lotto be scary? Now having your mind taken over by demon before being dragged to hell, thats scary. Because we dont realistically know if its possible or what it would be like. The root of horror is the unknown, so whats lacking here is the unknown.

[@amodernalchemist432]

@@Tinylittledansonman excellent point! The unknown plays a large part in fear too, you're right, but most of the unknowns are based on unrealistic *mythologies or fables.* These stories are used to induce fear as a form of control. Like the Abrahamic religions, as prime examples, who tell their followers "If they commit sins, they will spend eternity in hell!" Now, what greater form of controlling the masses has worked more effectively and efficiently than those religious laws? They are thousands of years old and people in the 21st century still follow them...fear is the most effective tool for control! Look what Hitler was able to do just by using fear to it's full potential, he turned his entire country into jewish hating/fearing folk, seemingly overnight.

[@DaveHat]

I saw this in theatres when it came out.

[@drewhoughtaling4017]

I found this movie on KZbin in 2014. I’m so happy its now getting the attention it deserves

[@Kakmanmartinez666]

There's actually an 8 part Columbine Iceberg that talked about what you were talking about when you mentioned how people believe Dylan was influenced by Eric to commit the shooting.

[@michaelm4464]

I dont remember how exactly I heard about this movie, but I remember being on a call with a friend at one point while I was watching it and her asking "why does it sound like a school shooting is happening in the background?" Possibly the most accurate movie about Columbine that doesnt even label itself as a movie about Columbine.

[@davidantone4593]

Remember watching this a long time ago around when it first came out. At first I thought it was real footage but after I found out it was a project, wish it could’ve had a wider release

[@ShortbusMooner]

A testament to mental illness in America, the fact that this movie could be made so realistically..

[@jaynotjoe7589]

This was such a great project, raw and gritty and that dark underlying narrative ever present. Very well documented too, well done.🙌

[@hesitantalien6372]

I remember watching this a lot when it first came out. It was done so well, and after every viewing it gave me such a weird sad, cold mood.

[@TroyKnight12]

This movie feels so real, definitely a great found footage film.

[@Doubleshake]

I remember seeing this movie about 12 yrs ago when I was 15 late at night. I remember not being able to sleep n I ran into it unintentionally and watched it while playing nba 2k on xbox😬 (my dumb young ass at the time dead ass thought it was real and these dudes was documenting this shit cuz it felt real even the scenes in the end and I found out it was a movie a few yrs later when I tried looking it up again)crazy how I remember it n what I was doing but it was one of those movies u won’t forget cuz it was creepy asf to me seeing the 2 boys spiral downward till the events at the end

[@kingjoseph5901]

I was young too and only and only saw the CCTV shooting part and thought I just watched a real school shooting

[@MultiHumala]

I had completely forgotten about this movie. Might need to dust up old copy of dvd and watch it again if I can find it.

[@TheJohnmarston72]

3:42 SPEAKS AND SOUNDS ALMOST LIKE ELLIOT RODGER

[@averagecabb4ge]

YO THIS IS SO ACCURATE 😭😭

[@AgeOf3ra]

I’m glad to see someone talking about this movie. I would like to see you do a vid comparing this and Gus Van Sant’s Elephant

[@mewxtwo]

Ive seen this movie a few times. Its the most realistic movie I've ever seen.

[@yln2002]

i watched this movie when it was on netflix back in like... god, 2013? earlier? it was almost life changing in the sense that it just stays with you. it almost has the same effect as the blair witch project.

[@asiaderrough9724]

Same here, watched it in 2013 as well, on netflix...then I took a break from Netflix for a while to get my life together.... but every time I hear about it, my stomach turns. It looks sooooo incredibly real.

[@abbym792]

there is another movie I think few people have seen based on a true crime, it contains one of the worst and most haunting scenes I have ever seen and I have seen alot. It is called playground or Plac zabaw untranslated. I would like if you made a video on it.

[@paranoiadetective1025]

this is an extremely good film, it packs a heavy punch

[@maxmayfire9958]

Not sure if you didn’t show it bc KZbin cracks down on certain things but I watched this movie back in 2018 I think,it was posted on KZbin fully. They actually have a scene with Andre and Cal making things for the attack in detail. When I go back to look for the movie it’s usually cut out in some uploads. Understandable though

[@noteverthere]

Oh the pipe bomb scene?

[@maxmayfire9958]

@@noteverthere yes! They show some parts of it but not all in reuploads I’ve seen

[@b3nnyrabb1t]

@@maxmayfire9958 There's an uncut full version recently uploaded that has (as far as I know, from what I've heard about the censored scenes) all of the scenes that were cut from other uploads. it's pretty easy to find now, and it was REALLY recently uploaded, like 5 months ago recently. I watched a slightly censored version, found out there were censored and cut scenes and went to Tumblr looking for an uncut version.

[@Colt100]

ive seen the film a while ago, it was actually really interesting as it feels and looks so real

[@Bob-fj7lr]

4:56 I think a big part of acting is that it's a human thing that people do for fun and for the love of it - even in a dark movie, you can have a fun family moment for the actors and the people watching can feel it. I think that's what's missing at times with the emphasis on SFX and such vs a movie with a tiny budget like this that just focuses on the acting itself and the story building and the love of acting - there's a reason to watch and love one more than the other or equally in different contexts. You can just feel a specialness from a scene like this - it's just acting and recording at its roots, a family improvising a scene together, you can almost hear the tongue in cheekiness when he says "today, you 18th birthday" like this sort of inside joke.

[@2serveand2protect]

Smart girl! She sees right through him and she's honest & open about it.

[@Vixsyz]

It’s honestly crazy how real it seems, they played there rolls a lil to real…

[@b3nnyrabb1t]

Honestly, it's why I love the film so much. The characters feel so real and connected and the portrayal is just so human it can definitely be unnerving the first time you watch it, ESPECIALLY as the movie goes on and you see them kind of. Come apart at the seems and their masks slip, ESPECIALLY Cal's because it doesn't seem like he wants to kill other people as much as he just wants to kill himself, but when you see that CCTV footage you realize that wasn't really true. He wanted to kill them just as much as he wanted to kill himself. It's more unnerving and shocking than Andre's development throughout the movie because he is noticeably off. I think the most shocking part of Andre's character is the end, when he hesitates to go along with Cal and shoot himself. Especially because he seems to have moved on from the pipe dream of running away with Cal when they burn their things.

[@Peak6009]

I wouldn't say it's scary but just unsettling

[@BaDitO2]

my main issue with elephant was that it felt to "sterile". void of emotion. which is like fine for the first half of the movie, which just protrays like "a normal day at school" which can be quite sterile and emotionless. but the second half it is still void of many emotionions IMHO. like the killers expressing very little emotions while carrying out what they did. which is the opposite of what witnesses report of the real life equivalents. they made it look more like they are robots instead of people who let their dark thoughts and emotions overcome them

[@chrisbeaumont4630]

The original movie Elephant was named after was also very sterile and emotionless, showing a series of random killings in Ireland during "the troubles," with pretty much no detail or dialogue. The title is a play on the phrase "the elephant in the room". It removes the motives and reasons behind the killings, instead just making you watch the reality and senselessness of such violence. The 2003 version of Elephant is attempting to do the same thing, showing a more objective version of a shooting, avoiding dramatising it as much as possible while attempting to shed light on a real social problem.

[@b3nnyrabb1t]

This is actually the point of the film.

[@Totmisu3]

Andre pick up the phone Andre Andre are you there pick up the phone Andre Andre pick up the phone Andre Andre are you there pick up the phone Andre

[@deburke321]

You won't believe how many times I had to listen to that while editing this

[@JagerRoof]

​@@deburke321so annoying but realistic and unrealistic at the same time

[@lun4red1tz]

Most annoying words ive ever heard in my entire life 💀

[@no_peace]

It's interesting that he is so upset about the principal maybe finding out, basically he's saying that kids reporting, and adults listening, really does prevent these issues

[@Scumane555]

I was just thinking about how someone have to do an analysis or a video related to this, one of my favorite indie movie

[@MrBigChin1]

I saw this movie years ago and it still lingers in my mind.

[@willdenham]

1st time I saw this I thought it was real found footage of a school shooting that I just hadn't heard about. Says something that mass shootings have become so common that one may have slipped by me.

[@LauraSquirrel]

I just watched "Elephant" after seeing this video a few times. "Zero Day" completely smoked it. It says a lot when a movie made on a shoestring budget does a far more effective job of conveying what they wanted to get across than something with an immensely larger budget. "Zero Day" interesting. "Elephant" is extremely boring. Even the final sequence pales in comparison.

[@b3nnyrabb1t]

I HAVE SOOO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT HOW WRONG YOU ARE OKAY LET'S BEGIN. Elephant is a drawn out masterpiece of a movie because it is MADE to be boring. It is MADE for you to be so underwhelmed you forget what you're watching, or you don't care. Because the signs are there, and you're apathetic to them, THE WAY PEOPLE ARE APATHETIC TO THE SIGNS OF THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR!!! It's a genius artistic film, with an entirely different take on the tragedy and how to portray it. Their message was EXACTLY what they showed in Elephant. Regular kids going about a regular day until it's NOT a regular day. The message was that you don't notice until it's in your face. Zero Day and Elephant had two different messages, and assuming they had the same one is EXACTLY why you think Elephant didn't do a good job showing it's message. It's understated on purpose, it's shot differently on purpose, and to assume that Elephant and Zero Day had the same message just because they were inspired by and about the same event is VERY much why you think Elephant didn't do a good job. Elephant is artistically done in a manner that tricks you. Zero Day is upfront with it. They're both EXTREMELY good films and I could go on for days about how the minimal, short lived portrayal of Alex and Eric and their relationship and their actions MAKE the movie, in a similar way as to how Cal and Andre's movie-long deep dive portrayal MAKES Zero Day the way that it is. I could go on and on about the contrasts and how they handled the portrayal of the shooting and the end and even the audience reaction. People who hear about one through the other immediately assume they're going to be the same, and that's EXACTLY what happened with you.

[@LauraSquirrel]

@@b3nnyrabb1t Wow. What you just typed out is one of the saddest things I have ever seen.

[@b3nnyrabb1t]

@@LauraSquirrel How so?

[@LauraSquirrel]

@@b3nnyrabb1t Seriously? You typed out a bunch of babbling to basically say: "I am going to assume things about what someone thinks." I'll sum it up for you. I watched "Elephant" to see what the director's take on it was and I thought it was a boring failure. The fact that you have to whine about it says way more about you than it does me. Have a good day/night, etc.

[@b3nnyrabb1t]

@@LauraSquirrel It wasn't a boring failure, you just. Didn't understand the message of the film???

[@mollyhatch2685]

This movie was one of the creepiest movies Ive seen in recent years

[@Estigfend4367]

I actually did see it by some miracle (Some guy reuploaded the movie I think) It was one of the most surreal movies I’ve ever watched, it felt like I was legitimately watching 2 outcasts with a camera doing stupid shit But then it finally got to the school scene… And it was just… weird, I didn’t know how to react to it The film is plain weird, because I felt like I was actually watching 2 losers carry their ‘master plan’

[@kingjoseph5901]

It's on KZbin right now

[@Ashley_Marie23]

It's always been crazy how they essentially vlogged before vlogging was a thing. I'll never forget watching this movie.

[@codystartin999.]

Thanks for another upload bro youtube doesn't even notify me

[@deburke321]

Yeah I’ve heard that a good bit recently, I think you have to switch notifications to all, if that doesn’t work I’m not too sure

[@GhostShura1984]

if you were born the 90s you have heard of this then

[@strawberrygashez]

“you haven’t seen” ERRRMMM AKSHUALLY IVE SEEN IT 28 TIMES

[@miaumeows]

REAL I WATCH IT ALMOST EVERY WEEK

[@mclovin2077]

REAL LOL

[@Sirnitro12]

Im ashamed to admit that the bit with the double barrel got a hearty chuckle outta me

[@meikel1492]

believe it or not the actual columbine shooters didn’t want any one to copy them and referred to anyone thinking to copy them as dumbasses

[@meikel1492]

to be a little more specific in their last bits of writing is where they said they didn’t want copycats

[@reb-dom1ne]

but they also said they want to start a chain reaction and had tutorials on making bombs and hiding guns/ equipment in the basement tapes?@@meikel1492

[@voteZDLR]

well I have seen the movie before.... but it is definitely creepy

[@KirkWilliamsIsBroken]

Have you seen Duck! The Carbine High Massacre (1999)? That's a weird, semi-comedic take on the Columbine Massacre. Might be worth a watch.

[@johnjohnsonsvideoarchive6883]

Damn, it released only 6 months after Columbine, and got both of the directors arrested for having weapons on school grounds.

[@Steff___420]

Wtf dude

[@b3nnyrabb1t]

@@johnjohnsonsvideoarchive6883 Oh, yeah, the directors were basically like "someone is going to do this, and it's going to be shitty and insensitive, so we might as well do it ourselves first."

[@jimglass3106]

They used the actors real names in The Blair Witch Project,too. Great video as always,my friend!

[@deburke321]

Thank you very much!

[@Bob-fj7lr]

The various shots are so good. A lot of nightmare shots, shots that just make everything in the shot look weird, angles are so awkward perfect framing.

[@BarryLoukaitiss]

i’ve seen this flim, and it’s amazing. One of my favorites but Duck the carbine high massacre is #1

[@Spirit1-]

Been searching for this video for years and thought it was named “zero hour” FINALLY

[@thadc5937]

I remember seeing this movie and the end scenes were so realistic it was insane

[@redvelvet5374]

There's also a movie called Zero Hour but it's more of a documentary if I remember correctly.

[@b3nnyrabb1t]

It's actually an episode of a SHOW called Zero Hour, it's the third episode, but they ARE movie length, and you can find it pretty easy on KZbin. It's called Zero Hour: The Columbine Massacre and theres a couple pretty HD uploads of it on here.

[@OneCentWonder]

I remember seeing this during the pandemic. I found it on the masskillers subreddit (I like true crime stuff im not a psycho i promise)

[@Cloudy_Jones]

Was he playing a guitar in that scene or a sitar? The angle it was filmed makes it hard to tell

[@helloamanda04]

it's a sitar yeah

[@mop2mop]

I have seen it but was in 6th class and looking back it feels like a fever dream

[@DeadZoneGaming]

Actually I did see this I’ve seen it a few times since I first discovered it but I think I found it on Netflix the first time I saw it, long ago. It’s actually a very good movie and the actors did a great job making the “found footage” convincing. It definitely brings awareness to this type of situation and how something like this would happen. Hopefully for those who have seen it it gave them a little insight on what to be aware of. Great movie with some really good acting. The final security camera scenes make you sick to your stomach as it should. Very well done low budget representation of the horrors to look out for.

[@Steff___420]

I’ve never heard of this movie, but your video about it was enough for me. As good it is made, it’s really horrific and disturbing

[@TheGOATAtBeingBased]

there are full screen recordings of the movie on youtube

[@Steff___420]

@@TheGOATAtBeingBased thanks, but I really don’t want to see it. As I said in the previous post, this video was disturbing enough for me.

[@TheGOATAtBeingBased]

@@Steff___420 it’s fake tho

[@Steff___420]

@@TheGOATAtBeingBased got it. But thanks

[@user-io9hj9ip2d]

it's interesting that they gave Calvin a Marilyn Manson shirt, considering he was the number 1 scapegoat for columbine at the time but it goes against reality as eric and dylan were not fans

[@talentkid234]

Were they actually on the phone with dispatch when they were counting down before shooting themselves? I’ve never heard this

[@chrisbeaumont4630]

One of the innocent high-schoolers calls 911 and then drops their phone, the dispatcher listens and tries to talk to them but they ignore them. Pretty clever way to give the scene audio.

[@thepoormanspoet3312]

Dude, I love your content, from general horror to your Morbid Musicians (series was DOPE AF), I've subbed for years and only wish there was more to watch. I've been hoping for an updated Top 10 Horror Short Films video for a long time. Hope you keep it up, man. 👏🙌

[@TheSmokeofAnubis]

Wow.. seeing that shot where they got out of the car.. I felt like I was there, and I felt sick. Brilliant filmmaking 👌🏼

[@goredoggy]

i've avoided watching this video for a while because of the title, but that was a mistake. this is a wonderfully put together video. i didn't think this movie was scary, moreso depressing. maybe im in the odd or wrong party, but i can't help but be sad. there's so much to this movie that just makes me... so sad. yes, andre and cal are horrid and they're planning a mass murder the entire time, but they're clearly mentally ill teenagers. if only they were paid attention to, if their families had noticed the signs, if people had taken steps to get them help or remove the guns from the home. calvin is such a clear depiction of a schizophrenic... coming from one. andre definitely has some black and white thinking and antisocial behaviors. both of them clearly needed help, and the fact that this could've been prevented just makes me so sad.

[@drfurbz]

Man my friend showed me this movie back in the day, the actual shooting scene felt like I was watching a snuff movie. As harrowing as this film is I still listen to Benji Cossa's Volcano today, such a fantastic track which juxtaposes so well with the dark gravity of this film.

[@sunrise6183]

it's horrifying, but it's a fair decent anti-bullying movie. And I would say anti-violence movie in some ways, because it's demonstrate clearly, that your problems cannot be solved by violence and in the end you will die for nothing. And on top of that, cause even more trouble for your family, friends and other close people.

[@notbean43]

Hey, watched this movie last year while I was researching about columbine. This is by far one of my top 5 movies, possibly top 3. The movie does a really excellent job at realism and making it seem believable. Before watching the movie or even realizing it was a movie, I was clips of this movie online. Thought it was real at first. And I really like the found footage late 90’s aesthetic. Reminds me of the tapes that the actual shooters recorded. If you guys haven’t watched this, I recommend giving it a watch.

[@Pinkmen-ho3fz]

Wonder what the actual perpetrators would think of not only people being inspired by them but also this film

[@Nothingnessf]

It's what they wanted and talked about in their journals. To leave a lasting impression and have movies about them. Tbh I don't think they would've like the movies they wanted it more in the style of natural born killers, but they would approve of all the mass murderers, even the terrorist attacks like September 11 they fantasized about doing something similar

[@TheGOATAtBeingBased]

they would expect it considering one of the perpetrators wrote in their journal “I know we will have followers because we are so f’ing god like”

[@Pinkmen-ho3fz]

Also I noticed how they said they came up with the idea of school shootings when there had not only been a mass shooting at a primary school a few years before but also a large mass shooting that killed 35 people in 1996 here in Australia so they didn’t come up with the idea

[@TheGOATAtBeingBased]

@@Pinkmen-ho3fz what was it called?

[@Pinkmen-ho3fz]

@@TheGOATAtBeingBased what the shooting at a primary school? Well it’s the Dunblane massacre and the perpetrator shot himself before the police could get him so Eric and Dylan probably stole that from Dunblane and took credit and the one in Australia was the port Arthur massacre it’s the worst mass shooting in Australian history and at the time it was the worst mass shooting by a lone gunman until 2011

[@Overlorddz]

Its not scary at all. Except for how much comfort i find in this film. But jokes aside, I think it explains Columbine in a way no investigation could have. You actually like these guys, even Andre, and you wish they would know, better stuff lies beyond school. But they couldnt do that. It also makes me feel so much more for the victims, because they were struggling the same way.

[@burkesullivan9086]

I remember the saw zero day on KZbin because it was listed as “the columbine tapes”

[@yoko.onos.yelling]

Extremely underrated movie. I remember watching this back when I was like 16, which I'm in my 30s now, after coming across that end scene on liveleak or a site like it. Being the good ADHD person that I am, I had to get all the information I could about it after I came out of the shock 😂.

[@TheSmokeofAnubis]

Seeing him sat there with a Sitar is one of the most random things I've ever seen.

[@gabrielablanco8373]

I remember watching this over pumped up kicks back then, it’s somehow now regaining popularity

[@galarianjay]

I watched the first two minutes of this video, watched the entire movie and now I’m back. Holy shit.

[@tmp-deathstalker]

Definitely worth it.