Hai sir, This is cnu. Good explanation sir. I have one question sir, within the std cells we will put the decap cells right, suppose i want to put the decap cells between the block to block ,,,,,, i think those case adding decap cells (pmos and nmos) we get problem right, why because we have only n-well and we don't have the nmos, so those case what i can do?
@TeamVLSI4 жыл бұрын
Hi cnu, Can you reframe the question please.
@saiprasadallamraju26924 жыл бұрын
One of the reduction techniques of IR drop is placement of decaps. it takes more area. If area is a constraint. Hence this is one disadvantage.
@TeamVLSI4 жыл бұрын
YES, it increases the standard cell area, but this is not significant as we have seen. Try to think another factor too.
@Kamlesh_Paswan4 жыл бұрын
Is de-cap part of AMPG verilog netlist generated by APR team? How APR team decides the de-caps values ?
@TeamVLSI4 жыл бұрын
Hi @Kamlesh What is AMPG? and could you please re-frame your question.
@ArunKumar-wu4px4 жыл бұрын
I have a doubt in placing decap cells..How do we know in particular region more current will draw by STD.cells..bcz before placement if we place decap cells...
@TeamVLSI4 жыл бұрын
Yes Arun, initially we place decaps in a regular intervals, It provides a boost to power network. But again after IR Analysis, We can insert decaps in a particular regions.
@RevolveRider4 жыл бұрын
Sir according to El Moore's model si->insulator->metal wire already behaves as capacitor and resistance then why can't it help in resolving this issue?
@TeamVLSI4 жыл бұрын
Yes, alright! The said combination of materials behaves as a capacitor. But I am not able to understand for which capacitance you are talking about. 2nd fact is we have to see the capacitance too. Is is considerably large or not.
@RevolveRider4 жыл бұрын
@@TeamVLSI yes sir i got it, actually I am in first year and in this lockdown I am gaining knowledge about digital electronics as much as I can and also completed vlsi cad course from coursera but I am not getting right path what to do next, should I learn verilog next sir? Or what should I do next please guide me ..
@FerozAhmed_PhysicalDesign4 жыл бұрын
I think Decap cells are not only used at pre-place or in power plan stage. it is used at Routing stage as IR drop will be high at this stage.
@TeamVLSI4 жыл бұрын
Alright Firoz! I have mentioned that at the end of video 15:56
@FerozAhmed_PhysicalDesign4 жыл бұрын
@@TeamVLSI oh yes, In middle of the video I've seen you have mentioned Pre-placement, didn't go till the end, sorry for this 😅 Your videos are very informative, that's for the efforts you've put in.
@TeamVLSI4 жыл бұрын
@@FerozAhmed_PhysicalDesign Thanks a lot dear!! Keep supporting.
@FerozAhmed_PhysicalDesign4 жыл бұрын
@@TeamVLSI *that's = thanks
@manojgutha56864 жыл бұрын
Hai, if you connect gatepoly directly to vdd, then it will damage right?
@chandrakanth.m.s.634 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's why they have moved to cross coupled Decoupling Capacitor structure I guess (check near this -> 14:23).
@rajgandhi40423 жыл бұрын
Why it will damage? Please explain?
@shahidafridi904 жыл бұрын
Also there will be routing congestion problem, which can be fixed using blockages. But , this results in increasing the Core utilization area.
@TeamVLSI4 жыл бұрын
Hi Shahid, I am not able to get your first part of comment: How it will increase the routing congestion? It doesn't requires any additional net to route them as it has no signal/clock pins.
@shahidafridi904 жыл бұрын
@@TeamVLSI Hi Sir , I mean that as we use the Decap cells for clock buffers while clock routing , it will occupy certain area on the chip. This will decrease the available area in the core for routing other signal nets.Thereby leading to congestion in routing. Kindly let me know if I am wrong
@TeamVLSI4 жыл бұрын
@@shahidafridi90 Yes, Increased utilization will affect the clock tree synthesis.
@srinidhiala36724 жыл бұрын
The disadvantages of Dcap cells are 1. Area 2.leakage power..
@TeamVLSI4 жыл бұрын
Well said Srinidhi.
@marun57783 жыл бұрын
Hello, May I know how 2.Leakage power happens here.?
@ChuChu-id8cc2 жыл бұрын
@@TeamVLSI could you explain more about leakage power here?
@User--jm59163 жыл бұрын
Command to place decap cells?
@TeamVLSI3 жыл бұрын
He Radha, Pls do man addDeCap to get all the options of adding decap cell.
@venkateshchanda17132 жыл бұрын
decap cells are more leaky..so more cells more we get leakage problem
@sweetymits12433 жыл бұрын
We added tie cells, even though we need Decap cells answer???
@TeamVLSI3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sweety, Tie cells don't tie the well. It is used to tie a net/terminal. Both have different function. Please see the video of tie cells.
@ArunKumar-wu4px4 жыл бұрын
Leakage will be more
@TeamVLSI4 жыл бұрын
Exactly ...
@nikitak36053 жыл бұрын
@@TeamVLSI can you exPlain why leakage will be more?? we use decaP for ir droP then how come it cause leakage
@achintize4 жыл бұрын
Where is antenna cells
@TeamVLSI4 жыл бұрын
Thanks @Achint, for reminding me We will add that soon, few more.