Doom - Episode 2: The Shores of Hell (Fast Ultra-Violence 100%)

[@MarphitimusBlackimus]

Lost Souls always forget their current target after attacking once. The only reason they seem to "remember" you, the player, is if you've fired a shot to awaken all monsters in the associated sectors. Sectors retain this sound attribute forever after a weapon has been shot, so when a Lost Soul attacks you and misses, they're immediately woken up again by the sector telling them that the player has fired a weapon at some point in that sector. This is why Lost Souls don't make an alert sound when they see you and wake up. If they did, you'd hear them waking up after every single attack.

[@Xeotroid]

Guess they're kinda... lost.

[@Allstin]

Ahh okay. There is no alert sound that’s true! Just the charging at you one

[@ThomasNimmesgern]

Image what it would sound like if they did have a 'wake up' sound: a never-ending stream of painful cries of souls lost to eternal Hell.

[@BrandonBRich]

Nothing more terrifying than opening a door and seeing a hoard of them stare at you

[@xyzzy-dv6te]

@@BrandonBRich E2M6 fake exit

[@Conifera15]

When I see decino playing this maps, I realize how many secrets I left when I played this game a decade ago... what a great game, really

[@PeterLawrenceYT]

44:00 "I really wish I had a chainsaw or something" decino says as he runs right past the chainsaw secret 😂😂😂

[@decino]

It's not tagged as a secret!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheRexTera]

@@decino 🤣

[@christopherthibeault7502]

Oh, my fucking Christ, I didn't believe your comment until I checked back and found out: YES, HE SKIPPED THE FUCKING CHAINSAW SECRET! Was that deliberate? Does he hate Episode II enough that he will blot it out of his memory? After motherfucking Sunlust?

[@Gemidori]

Only our man Decino, lol

[@_youngkoala]

So much easier with that Chainsaw 😂

[@georgeheilman885]

"Let's punch a Cyberdemon." BOOM! "Nope." Big guy's not messing around, is he?

[@ShadesMan]

52:24 - the baron is skilled, he's fast. The very same baron in the doom novels was portrayed as only going down in 4 rockets because he 'got lazy in the dark corridors, where humans rarely passed by.'

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Ah, Hell-princes.

[@audiosurfarchive]

Typical fucking Hell Royals

[@gustavobarrancos1233]

27:50 - "now that he's busy i'm gonna punch him in the ass" I NEVER had the balls to get this close to a Baron from behind. You read the source code so many times that i bet you have the state machine for NPCs already internalized haha

[@Ducky-vl7mp]

Most atmospheric episode imo. Really loving this series, keep it up!

[@nisfornick]

The little dance with the Cyberdemon at the end was hysterical. Those Lost Souls were just not cooperating...

[@ajretro6784]

One detail I've noticed and appreciate on my most recent playthrough is that the Baron wall texture always appears when a Baron is nearby in Eps 2, 3 and I think 4. Clever little foreshadowing by Sandy (in most cases)

[@xyzzy-dv6te]

Unless it's E2M8

[@Prepucectomy]

I can't wait to see E4M2 with fast monsters. Good luck mister.

[@audiosurfarchive]

And also SiGiL. He's doing it.

[@doommaker4000]

@@audiosurfarchive Sigil is way easier than anything e4 throws at ya

[@audiosurfarchive]

@@doommaker4000 I agree; Fast changes balance wildly and SiGiL is practically still covered in amniotic fluids.

[@decino]

@@doommaker4000 I find SIGIL much harder actually!

[@doommaker4000]

@@decino Really? At this point I can UV pistol start whole Sigil, while I still have problems with ep4. I guess it's because I played more Sigil than ep4. I hate the first map with perfect hatred, so that may have something to do with it. (Actual Perfect Hatred is all right in my book though)

[@DenkyManner]

I think I like E2. Would need to play it again with a more critical eye. They are overly confusing with redundant areas but there's an interesting atmosphere. It's important to remember designing complex 3d spaces hadn't been a thing before. Wolfenstein is too simple to count in my view. The amazing thing is how intuitively Romero took to it, he knew what he was doing in an essentially new medium.

[@eggboy9126]

Unpopular opinion incoming: I like Sandy Peterson's maps quite a bit. Sure they can be ugly, but his maps tend to be a bit more non-linear and full of optional areas and gimmicks. Boy, do I love gimmicks. I do wonder what would happen if Sandy put out an "episode 6" of sorts where he actually had time to flesh (haha) out his maps, because basically all his maps are speed-maps due to the lack of time he had to complete them.

[@barbariangamer6209]

He's only worse map is the Chasm

[@cyberangel2787]

The Chasm is okay, just don't run all the time. The Downtown, on the other hand...

[@polskastylezz187]

my man im coming home from work and what do is see complete episode 2 100% awesome thanks bud

[@natedoggcata]

"and this room with a single barrel. Great design Tom." lol Im not a fan Episode 2 either.

[@tanekheath5323]

lol 69 likes

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Is anyone?

[@tbkih]

@@DinnerForkTongue I am, very much. Especially level 2.

[@xyzzy-dv6te]

@@tbkih and E2M8 looks more hellish than E3M8

[@tbkih]

@@xyzzy-dv6te hmmm i don't remember which one that is but I got that sudden nostalgia now and I'm gonna play it ASAP

[@rilluma]

13:43 WOW i have never seen that texture. i cant even find it on google or anywhere else. good find!

[@voneror]

E2M2 is my personal favorite. Layout, berserker pack and lack of hitscanners means that melee oriented tactic is viable.

[@johnspartan2096]

yep personnaly I find there is a little time to adapt to fast monster with melee but apart that Episode 2 is shape in most part for berserk style(even if you are aiming to beat time in uv-max you have to be lucky with rng when punching pinky cacodemon and baron pinky can be a pain require 1 to 3hit sometime)

[@odstagent1070]

I think is harder to punch a Cacodemon with fast monsters/Nightmare skill They spam fireballs more than any other demon, on long range seems like an Arachnotron

[@johnspartan2096]

@@odstagent1070 well a baron is super hard too.In an other hand episode 2 in pistol start isn't known for having a lot of ammo.

[@MCEnderbornGaming]

Tom Hall’s levels feel like dungeons from dnd campaigns. I really see what you mean by his vision for the game being different.

[@orange0666]

That’s what I also thought.

[@afkbeto]

"Why use chainsaw when you have fist" - decino, 2019

[@Retro_Zilla]

Thank you so much for doing this, I was sooo stuck on Episode 2 Level 4

[@odstagent1070]

This brings me back memories when i was playing Ultimate Doom and i was kinda scared of it but still playing it nowadays xD) Great job decino, i love your voice (P.D. Pinkies moves faster than my internet :c)

[@Malefication]

I love hearing the intense and fast *TAP* *TAP* *TAP* *TAP* *TAP* *TAP* *TAP* *TAP* *TAP* *TAP* *TAP* *TAP* *TAP* in the Baron fist dance at 52:06

[@LudicusMaximus]

Those poor lost souls at the end, especially the first one :( You did your best, lil buddy!

[@flergindergin]

You, normie: I hope Decino is ready for Sigil. Me, an intelectual: I hope Sigil is ready for Decino.

[@Bathtubcrocodile]

Intellectual*

[@MrBruh281]

You spelled intellectual wrong lmao

[@catascopic9542]

E2M2 is actually one of my favorite levels. I even like the weirdness of E2M3. I can only hope Tom Hall will make Sigil 2, I guess.

[@raysf]

Decino: Well, I will just punch him to death Cyberdemon: well maybe you please not Decino: Alright, back to lost souls...

[@JamLeGull]

Was Tom Hall fired? I was under the impression he quit due to the creative differences and the fact that they’d tell him they didn’t like his ideas, then ended up implementing a lot of them anyway which must have been tremendously frustrating. He left on pretty good terms either way.

[@Final-Ts]

You're such a master at fighting the Cyberdemon at close range and I'm SO BAD at it lol. Truly amazing. TBH, I haven't played most of the wads you have in your videos... but I HAVE played this one, with normal monster speed. It really shows, to ME, how skillful you actually are. Holy crap! You're an amazing player! I knew this beforehand, but seeing it on a wad I've played makes it that more concrete. You're the goods!

[@plzsirmoregruel9590]

26:07 spooked me when I saw how much health was lost instantly, I feel that this is the first moment that the pinkies are extremely dangerous truly clicked to me

[@Somersalsa]

14:49 he's not blind he was just vibing

[@mresturk9336]

I think one of the reasons E2M2 is such an oddity is that it was one of the earliest maps built for the game. It was the map used in some of the earliest alpha builds ID shared with the public. The devs were still trying to figure out what DOOM was trying to be when the rough draft of that map was built.

[@sammo5000]

ahhh yes, turbo pinkies

[@cdcdrr]

I think Tom Hall actually did add a lot of good things to the level design in regards to secrets, aesthetics and enemy design. I just don't like the mazes in his levels, which is weird since he also pushed for the coloured frames on doors to match keys, which seems like a no-brainer but is just crucial to know where you have to go. Something which can't be said for mazes where everything start to blend together. Really odd for the guy whose levels do tend to stand out visually. Peterson though... ugh. Inferno is my least favourite episode because it just becomes so tedious. There are moments of greatness, like Warrens. But even though the encore of E1M9's theme and the big twist of the levels is always enough to give you a new rush of adrenaline, by the time you get to Limbo, you're just so done with this episode, and the level itself does nothing to compromise with you. Few enemies, lots of damaging floors, confusing level design that blends together. When you get through it and then slay the Spider Mastermind in just one minute, you don't feel victorious, just fed up with the game. And because much of episode 3 was made by Peterson, yeah. I'm going to insist his were the least fun level designs. Certainly if you're marathon running. It's a good thing that they closed it out with Thy Flesh Consumed. There the final boss battle is the climax to a much more challenging level.

[@chrism1518]

cdcdrr I agree. Episode 3 is really bad. ID had a habit of their classic games starting out fantastic then ending in disappointment.

[@lordbiscuitthetossable5352]

Yeah. I always loved Chapter 1 and 2, and really hated chapter 3. It felt super disappointing compared to the atmosphere building before.

[@DeathFactor]

I can't wait to see the Episode 4 video. I'm sure that'll be a fun time.

[@RealRushinRussian]

At 11:28 you say that Lost Souls don't count towards the kill count. I wanted to mention that they used to - well they're no different from any ordinary Doom1 monsters, why wouldn't they? It was Doom2 that removed the COUNTKILL flag from them due to the addition of Pain Elementals (because apparently tracking the current/total monster count dynamically on the map was too hard of a programming task or something; ironically, having Arch-Viles and Icon of Sin ruined this "fix" anyway). Specifically, the lost souls change was introduced in version 1.666, so I guess playing glboom-plus with -complevel 0 (which emulates doom v1.2; -complevel 1, 2, and 3 are doom v.1666, doom v1.9, and ultimate doom respectively) rather than -complevel 3 would be a tiny bit more vanilla. Well I'm sure you're aware of this all, just wanted to share some trivia.

[@De-M-oN]

Another reason might be because if a Pain Elemental died close to a wall, lost souls could spawn out of map. In GZDoom they count as kills and the Pain Elementals are fixed to not spawn souls outside of map anymore.

[@mresturk9336]

Should have been as easy as having the spawned Lost Soul's COUNTKILL flag get disabled as part of the script when a Pain Elemental creates one.

[@De-M-oN]

@@mresturk9336 If the Souls dont bug out of map anymore I dont see the reason to not count them for kills either. If they wouldnt count as kills in GZDoom I would change it myself that they do. Also I always disable the 20 Lost Souls limit.

[@Bubba365]

What an excellent comment. Laughed out loud about the programming shortcut... reminds me of school. Thanks for the trivia and the read.

[@usagijojo]

Watching this again today, since I wanted to see your reactions to these sweet, sweet Tom Hall levels again. Crazy that it's been 7 months since this was first uploaded. Time sure can fly.

[@shambles07]

Not sure how you ended up in my recommendations, but subscribed! Good stuff!

[@annekariceisnice]

Thank you so much for these play throughs - you inspired me to play through Doom 1 again on Ultra Violence, something I have not done in decades - such an amazing nostalgia trip :)

[@SixArmedSweater]

You and I have pretty much the opposite tastes in maps. I adore most of the ones you hated.

[@TES_735]

"Why use the chainsaw when you have fists" Truly, a boss comment.

[@OmegaTyrant]

Halls Of The Damned is one of my favorite official maps, I really like the survival horror feel to it, which got amplified when I played it recently on pistol start with fast monsters.

[@shroomlax6878]

I’m so happy I stumbled across your channel, I really like it and idk why.

[@furorteutonicus9045]

I think its because of his calming and charming voice. He seems to be a very good guy overall as well when you hear him talk. You just think "Hey, thats a guy I would like to be friends with (or play Doom with LOL).

[@Grondorn]

Episode 2 is my favorite actually, I guess the blend of the demonic with the tech base is really appealing to me.

[@Abelon535]

Love watching these. It’s like I’m 10 again but actually good at doom.

[@jsd1982]

Fantastic stuff! I, for one, would love an analysis video on the blind pinkie. I've never seen that glitch before and have played DOOM ever since its first release. Guess I don't play episode 2 that much either, with good reason.

[@dinitroacetylen]

21:25 -- well, computers do sometimes cause me a headache, but this scene gives this allegory a whole new meaning.

[@johnballantyne3458]

Man, I must be the only person on Earth who likes "Containment Area" and "Halls of the Damned".

[@barbariangamer6209]

Yes i like E2M6

[@panthekirb7561]

I thought it was a mainstream opinion to like Containment Area. Its the best level in the episode and one of the best in the whole game, like Mt. Erebus is for Episode 3.

[@MrNatale91]

You're a true Doom master!

[@BillyBobBoBilly]

Alternate video title: Decino rips on Tom Hall for an hour (Fast Ultra-Violence 100%)

[@lukecampbell5341]

All of the maps in Episode 2 are credited to Sandy Peterson, although to be fair, many were started by Tom Hall.

[@Kaiser86]

I was sweating just watching you fight the Cyberdemon with 11% health.

[@Smokecall]

39:36 that lost soul room is just lethal when given any kind of buff. A lot of survival players often find their end there because they can't clear the lost souls they wake up behind them fast enough

[@AlexanderWilithinIII]

"Sandy's maps might be ugly but at least they're playable." OOF.

[@coriandercastor9453]

He says while talking about a Petersen map.

[@shyguy85]

@@coriandercastor9453 ....yeah, sandy peterson.

[@coriandercastor9453]

@@shyguy85 Nice job putting one and one together to get two. You missed the point, but congratulations on showing you're at least smarter than a Communist.

[@paradust]

Nah, just kidding. Actually, I'm serious :D

[@ElCriticoCitrico77]

You bring me old memories as I watch this video.

[@oscargonzalez3599]

"Is practical suicide, so take it easy" decino -2020- motivational speech.

[@Julian_Pepper]

44:11 I just realized from a lore perspective, that Wooden Section, did in fact, go to hell

[@kat_stuff]

i dont like Tom's layout but i like what he does with lighting

[@naryanr]

34:00 Genuinely have never seen that room before in my life, and I started playing Doom 25 years ago.

[@las4gna84]

Everyone gangsta 'til pink DK comes running into you

[@RobsMemoryLane]

I love your Quake videos. Keep them going.

[@rypokemon7336]

keep on the good work Decino!

[@foxbonesmulder]

It's amazing to finally learn the Baron's secret weakness after these years: *spiked fists to the ass*

[@scottjackson1420]

At the 49:20 mark, I have NEVER been blocked from entering that room. That's pretty surprising to me to see that it can even happen. I have to rewatch to see how this came about.

[@kurbusmax]

“In that case, let’s try punching him to death” *loses 110 health*

[@TheHoojo]

Seeing these old Doom episodes makes me realize how much better designed Doom2 was.

[@Aspen-cr7zd]

Been waiting for this one

[@JPLeBreton]

E2 maps that were started by Tom Hall and finished by Sandy Petersen: e2m1, e2m2, e2m3, e2m4, and e2m7. The rest are all Sandy.

[@danbrady6637]

Decino: "You all know I don't like this map, may as well shut up about it" 47:35 Also Decino: "This section is ass... absolute ass...*dispirited sigh*..." 51:25

[@hhenrii]

35:50 I confirm that button raises the plasma bridge.

[@hhenrii]

Episode 2 is actually my favorite, love levels 2 and 4.

[@MrHangman56]

i don't get the hate for episode 2. i really like the episode and E2M2 is my favourite map out of it

[@itsnovation3723]

Contaminated Area so horrible map ☠️☠️

[@panthekirb7561]

@@itsnovation3723 Its among the best ones in the whole game. Nearly every level in E2 is superior to all of Episode 3 (Not counting Mt. Erebus, that map is fantasticly unique for Doom 1).

[@nickyt-officialchannel7752]

Things I love about ultimate doom and doom 2: 1. It has tons of map builders 2. Lots of mods, iwads, pk3 3. Light weight 4. Maps with secrets 5. Enemy placement And most of all *6. Soundtrack* It's really sad that the games this old outperform new "half-baked" games, flooded with DLCs.

[@ahandsomefridge]

If only people would be less interested in gaming (so companies wouldn't see the need to exploit them as much through this medium). I blame all of the people!

[@necrosteel5013]

A Handsome Fridge to be more accurate blame the retards who just buy shitter games just because its hip and Hollywood like.

[@ahandsomefridge]

That's big business for ya. AAA Studios dictate what the mass consumes, just like Hollywood does in the film industry. Games have become franchises, movies have become series, greed exceeds creativity and authenticity. There's still choice beyond mass consumption though, so that's nice. And there's always retrogaming, ofcourse.

[@necrosteel5013]

A Handsome Fridge exactly, indie spaces and mod communities are where the good stuff is at,since its the only spaces people make stuff intended for others of similar taste to enjoy,allowing much more experimentation and refinement.

[@dwaynegreene152]

I never completed E2 when i was younger. E2m2 always took all my patience cuz id get lost and go in circles. Im gonna give it another go now i have some lore. 👍

[@Tricker-the-licker]

I love the whole game, I don't have a favourite or worst chapter.

[@Artaresto]

Kudos for the absolutely brilliant finish haha

[@barbariangamer6209]

me who started playing OG Doom in late 2019 i used to watch Bmd walkthroughs He's good but your pro gameplay and calme commentary are the best in youtube

[@karlk5801]

I can't believe you stole that Lost Soul's kill with a single pistol shot. You are the true demon here.

[@dollors1]

I can't believe decino would pretend to lose 3 enemies just for ad revenue. Just kidding

[@alphacuremother1019]

dollores that's why I always run ad blocker 😂🤣jk make your money bro its worth it.

[@theumashablepotato5349]

I remember getting map e2m9 on accident because I entered the secret exit thinking it was normal and when I went in the room I forgot there was pause button and I died immediately. Ah the good ol’ days

[@De-M-oN]

I love Containment Area. You also never lose track where you are. Just play it right :D I love Containment Area because its such a berserk galore. I LOVE it :D

[@andromeda-dsda]

One thing I find funny about E2M9: Fortress of Mystery is that you actually have just enough ammo, from a pistol-start, to kill every enemy without infighting. That said, it's much more fun to make the barons and cacos infight :)

[@xyzzy-dv6te]

It feels great if the cacos actually kill one baron

[@_youngkoala]

I remember when I didn’t know infighting existed and this map scared the shit out of me and ruined me 🤣🤣🤣 now E2M9 is just a fun easy little map 🤪

[@rodtdever3503]

Thank God a new decino video. Saved that evening.

[@Nick131081]

09:40 uh you got me there... twice... gg ;D

[@clj3812]

Im actually sad that people dont like episode 2 because it has an interesting atmosphere and idea, but it could have been executed better

[@umbaupause]

Okay, that ending was perfect comedy.

[@iitzstix]

0:00 e2m1 3:53 e2m2 13:34 e2m3 19:52 e2m4 28:50 e2m5 40:39 e2m6 1:04:17 e2m6 (final)

[@Turbine2k5]

Oh boy! The Bores of Hall!

[@FairyRat]

Love your content!

[@rilluma]

32:32 another discovery i did not know! :D

[@TheNumberOfTheBeast666]

Yay! Love your channel, you're really the only youtuber I watch consistently. As an aside, do you happen to have a subreddit or anything like that?

[@codeinject]

www.reddit.com/r/decinoForPresident

[@dotcomgamingd5564]

from here on out Im calling episode 2 "the berzerk episode". no chainsaws, a berzerk in every level, and when pistol starting which I am currently doing, you get absolutely -2 packs of ammo each level.

[@theukuleleist]

loving this playthough so far can't wait to see sigil with these settings i am not brave/good enough to try any difficulty above hurt me plenty right now

[@Xeotroid]

Checking the Doom Wiki, apparently E2M5, 6, 8, and 9 were designed solely by Sandy while the others are credited to both him and Tom.

[@AliceErishech]

The ironic part about things like Doom and goths and satanists using the inverted cross like that at the start of the first level as an anti-Christian symbol is that Catholicism considers it to actually be a holy symbol still. From Wikipedia: "The origin of the symbol comes from the Catholic tradition that Simon Peter was crucified upside down, as told by Origen of Alexandria. The tradition first appears in the 'Martyrdom of Peter', a fragmented text found in, but possibly predating, the apocryphal Acts of Peter, which was written no later than 200 A.D. It is believed that Peter requested this form of crucifixion as he felt he was unworthy to be crucified in the same manner that Jesus died. As such, some Catholics use this cross as a symbol of humility and unworthiness in comparison to Jesus. According to Roman Catholicism, the pope is Peter's successor as Bishop of Rome. Therefore, the Papacy is often represented by symbols that are also used to represent Peter, one example being the Keys of Heavenand another the Petrine Cross." For example, John Paul II on a chair bearing the cross: i.imgur.com/N8Grxrf.jpg

[@xenslavescombinecoffe6456]

"Ok Baron, im gonna ignore you" Baron: :'(

[@himynameisben95]

13:40 I believe I just saw this texture on MAP57: The Marshes on PSX Doom, which is basically official

[@AerysBat]

Yes your use of dispatch is correct and it’s a great word

[@clarenceoveur9497]

Oh boy, I love episode 2 and Tom Hall maps lol They are so oppressive, very unique feeling!

[@sorlana]

the super nintendo version of doom has given me a _special_ kind of hatred for deimos lab

[@darknoob1894]

this is crazy fast demons ,i wouldn't have found you're channel if where not for big mac davis. great doomer you are mate👍all i had was the crap sega port in the day 😂