Doom II - MAP08: Tricks and Traps (Nightmare! 100% Secrets + Items)

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@victoriouswinner7745
@victoriouswinner7745 Жыл бұрын
playing tricks and traps for the first time is an experience i'll never forget, it was wild
@spechar
@spechar Жыл бұрын
First there's Crusher, which I remember being first hard map in Doom 2, then Dead Simple which not only was a completely new type of level, but also first time you meet Mancubus, Arachnotron and Megasphere and the top it off with Tricks and Traps. Such great memories of playing them first time.
@jukaa1012
@jukaa1012 Жыл бұрын
I loathed it
@justinholland9844
@justinholland9844 Жыл бұрын
Were you tricked? Were you trapped?
@baxter22071990
@baxter22071990 Жыл бұрын
As a kid it was the best map i could get to without cheating, the cyberdemon room was always the troublecauser😂
@YogiTheBearMan
@YogiTheBearMan Жыл бұрын
It took me way longer than this! 😂
@AlexeiVoronin
@AlexeiVoronin Жыл бұрын
The main message of this level is "The kiddie gloves are off now" - you encounter your first Cyberdemon and, more importantly, Pain Elementals here. Because nothing can make the game funnier like some extra Lost Souls ;) But you'll also get your first (legit) BFG 9K, an entire stash of backpacks (always wondered about this), and some invulns. So it's not that bad. Just don't fall for any tricks. Or traps.
@IIFirenII
@IIFirenII Жыл бұрын
I love your little description of each maps, pls don't stop ! :D
@AlexeiVoronin
@AlexeiVoronin Жыл бұрын
@@IIFirenII Will do my best :)
@galenwhite8765
@galenwhite8765 Жыл бұрын
First Barons encountered in Doom 2 as well, I just realized !
@stylesrj
@stylesrj Жыл бұрын
Isn't it also the first level in Doom 2 that hands out Skull Keys rather than keycards? Because it always slipped my mind and I always thought it was Tenements that started going from keycards to skulls...
@NcWcN1
@NcWcN1 Жыл бұрын
@@stylesrj isn't also one level in the tens that gives a mix of two cards and one skull, or thereabouts?
@TarosTheVoid
@TarosTheVoid Жыл бұрын
Tricks and Traps is definitely one of my favorite maps to play in Doom 2 A definitely iconic map
@LavaCreeperPeople
@LavaCreeperPeople Жыл бұрын
wow
@BoominGame
@BoominGame 8 ай бұрын
It's probably, with the crusher, one of the most exciting bits.
@Geniraul
@Geniraul Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I used to somewhat hate this map for its difficulty. Then I grew up and understood its concept. I love it since.
@sirbill_greebi3811
@sirbill_greebi3811 Жыл бұрын
I love how the central room becomes a mosh pit by the end. This map is probably *almost* impossible without at least 1 invincibility on nightmare.
@phattjohnson
@phattjohnson Жыл бұрын
It's already definitely almost impossible!
@sirbill_greebi3811
@sirbill_greebi3811 Жыл бұрын
@@phattjohnson I say "almost" because we all know not to call something "impossible" in earshot of the Doom community.
@tylerjennings8242
@tylerjennings8242 Жыл бұрын
I love these Nightmare playthroughs because we kind of get to see Decino attempting to 100% speedrun these maps. You’re pretty much forced to speedrun the maps because of the constantly respawning enemies. That’s certainly evident at the end of this map. That demon party in the center was wild haha.
@Turbine2k5
@Turbine2k5 Жыл бұрын
>D
@LordGrandKaiser
@LordGrandKaiser Жыл бұрын
The more I watch through your Nightmare run the more it feels like this is how Doom is "supposed" to feel. You versus the literal endless hordes of Hell; it's a suicide mission, but you being enough of a badass to pull through is the only hope Earth's got. I quite like it.
@isaiahschmitt8680
@isaiahschmitt8680 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the lore makes more sense too on nightmare, for example, why there aren't any monster corpses near the dead marines
@Nob1ej0n
@Nob1ej0n Жыл бұрын
Beautifully done. This map still gets me on UV. The double ammo and getting to ignore a lot of monsters is honestly refreshing.
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue Жыл бұрын
This level is more chaotic than tough. Loved the mosh pit that the central room became.
@Thomas1984.
@Thomas1984. Жыл бұрын
I remember playing this level for the first time. It was so awesome. Really hard too.
@Sphendrana
@Sphendrana Жыл бұрын
Love this map so much. Never knew that's how you open that wall in the teleporter room!
@odstagent1070
@odstagent1070 Жыл бұрын
0:25 Man, that shotgunner only had ONE job haha For fun, I made a strategy to complete this map on NM + pacifist + no damage 1- Get into the Cyberdemon room and wait a bit for him to disappear, grab invul and squeeze through to get yellow key 2- Yellow key room, get the red key and squeeze through to re-grab invul before it runs out 3- Go to the exit room and make sure to step aside to avoid being blocked by the Pinky 4 - Profit
@RevolverRez
@RevolverRez Жыл бұрын
That turned into an absolute mess by the end, with the insane number of turbocharged pinkies sprinting free everywhere. In other words, it's very entertaining! I've never seen the Cyber die so quickly, either.
@lukebehrendsbro.
@lukebehrendsbro. Жыл бұрын
A fun map to play indeed. Nightmare Mode here is interesting if you know what to do under this situation. So yeah I like this map alot. Well done. 👍
@Nuclearstomp
@Nuclearstomp Жыл бұрын
This seems to be the favorite map of a lot of people in Doom 2. I can say it's for good reason for sure.
@Thunderwalker87
@Thunderwalker87 Жыл бұрын
Watching Decino play Doom is showing me all the secret areas I missed when I played them growing up.
@ZenSolipsist
@ZenSolipsist Жыл бұрын
I genuinely enjoy watching you do this. Nightmare is damn hard and you make it look easy. Great work 🍿your presentation is excellent 🧡
@NellWatson
@NellWatson Жыл бұрын
Masterful run, practically untouchable, wow!
@brandonschwertley2723
@brandonschwertley2723 Жыл бұрын
That got crazy fast, definitely need a plan to tackle this map on nightmare
@ergosphere2
@ergosphere2 Жыл бұрын
The nightmare playthrough have been so entrancing. I've never been terribly good at UV, and NM always scared me too much to even attempt lol.
@DarkQuill
@DarkQuill Жыл бұрын
Platforming at the end as a kid back in 94 with just the arrow keys was one of the harder challenges, hahaha.
@CychoSpawn
@CychoSpawn Жыл бұрын
Decino: *beats Doom 2 on nightmare like he does it everyday: Me: *cannot even beat the game on UV*
@ToxicBarrel
@ToxicBarrel Жыл бұрын
Eight doors to Hell. This one seems even more fun to 100% on nightmare; destroying the monster hordes again with extra cells and rockets.
@khaldub
@khaldub Жыл бұрын
2:27 Pinkies scared the shit out of me
@Wraithdagger
@Wraithdagger Жыл бұрын
This and Map01 are my childhood memories.
@Skelly57
@Skelly57 Жыл бұрын
Still one of my favorite Doom maps, it may be gimmicky but it's a very fun gimmick :)
@PeterLawrenceYT
@PeterLawrenceYT Жыл бұрын
Maps that have Invuns are the most fun to route!
@tacticaljunk1608
@tacticaljunk1608 Жыл бұрын
The traps in this map are incredibly tricky. It's absurd.
@georgeheilman885
@georgeheilman885 Жыл бұрын
Using the first invulnerability wisely is a trick I learned a long time ago, albeit through trial and error. Though getting the Cyberdemon to fight the Barons is also gratifying.
@EnemyAce88
@EnemyAce88 Жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to this one. Maps that force you to pass through the same areas over and over will inevitably lead to clusters like the one we just saw here. The next couple levels will be interesting. Again, thank you so much for doing this.
@bendzam.6068
@bendzam.6068 Жыл бұрын
"I wanna do it all by myself, unless I say otherwise." What a Chad sentence.
@Alberto.Kutran
@Alberto.Kutran Жыл бұрын
When I played Doom with my dad, this map was impossible to beat, because the platforming at the end. We didn't know about idclip, and internet wasn't massive in this time (~1995) so we were stuck for years in this level
@meridianmile8033
@meridianmile8033 Жыл бұрын
Camaraderie is a huge issue with these monsters. They'll kill each other over the slightest provocation, but for some reason think it's important to kill you. I wonder what the hell is going on. What are the Barons and Cyberdemon doing in that room?
@GazaAli
@GazaAli Жыл бұрын
God all of these iconic maps...such a bittersweet treat!
@GamerJayvee
@GamerJayvee Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the strategy. I will try nightmare in the future.
@catstealer419dominion7
@catstealer419dominion7 Жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the series so far is the low number of outtakes this deep into the WAD. A testament to pumpkin man’s technique and game-state awareness growth. Slay the beast, decino!
@adinocc2042
@adinocc2042 Жыл бұрын
I love this map. It's one of my favorites!
@pehhii
@pehhii Жыл бұрын
Each invlun is just a blessing on NM. Beautiful.
@NotSoDrewby
@NotSoDrewby Жыл бұрын
Seeing how chaotic it gets at the end make me wanna make a very trolly nightmare map that just turns into a slaughterfest by the end
@VaraDeBlaze.
@VaraDeBlaze. 3 ай бұрын
This will always be my favorite level in all of Doom 2, and maybe even Doom 1
@ravagerslb
@ravagerslb Жыл бұрын
Next map is probably going to be the first serious challenge in Doom 2. Can't wait to see it.
@fellow_doomer
@fellow_doomer Жыл бұрын
honestly this map was really fun. diffirent wide areas, lots of demons etc.
@try1992
@try1992 Жыл бұрын
Thx for the help
@damiendiabolo
@damiendiabolo Жыл бұрын
This level really drove me insane 😳 I must have done it 20 times, collected everything but the last secret just never got triggered 😬 Was on the verge of despair. Now I just did it step by step and finally got the last secret 😁
@cwad737
@cwad737 Жыл бұрын
This and barrels were always my fav.
@cwad737
@cwad737 Жыл бұрын
Man I forgot circle of death until you posted it today. Admonish me.
@plankera
@plankera Жыл бұрын
Such a fun map. Nothing else to say.
@Thosis
@Thosis Жыл бұрын
My favourite Doom map, good times and memories.
@thalligator016
@thalligator016 Жыл бұрын
As a kid this map (and doom 1 e2m4) scared me so much that I didn't want to play it any further :D
@CptCl0wn
@CptCl0wn Жыл бұрын
This map blew my mind back in the day as a kid, it was always so hard as a 7 year old.
@WSADKO
@WSADKO Жыл бұрын
one of the first maps i managed to beat on NM, nice
@OmegaTyrant
@OmegaTyrant Жыл бұрын
My second favorite Doom 2 map, would have been a perfect map to me if not for the ending room's inescapable pit (though maybe I'm just salty about it because that room killed me many times as a kid playing the Playstation port having to use the d-pad for movement, and the port having no saves made you have to redo the entire map every time you died).
@Olek54321
@Olek54321 Жыл бұрын
Wow, cyberdemon got wrecked there, amazing :O I love that pacifist start without firing a shot :D
@doomy_valley
@doomy_valley Жыл бұрын
Cybadeemon: "Imma bout 2 snipe doomguy real bad with ma new NM reflexes"
@Virantetr
@Virantetr Жыл бұрын
Playing tricks and traps left me afk for 3 mins
@CirclesandSounds
@CirclesandSounds Жыл бұрын
This is a wild run! 🤩🤯
@GeorgeTaylor-ux7bq
@GeorgeTaylor-ux7bq Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this brother
@the_kovic
@the_kovic Жыл бұрын
Platforming the exit section while you have an expiring invuln blinking was a very tense experience for me, even as a mere viewer.
@scabrdoom
@scabrdoom Жыл бұрын
I did a similar route in my video, but.... On UV of course! Great run decino! Love it!
@reptongeek
@reptongeek Жыл бұрын
This is one of those levels which is good for no damage runs. The Invulnerabilities help out a lot
@chiqi335
@chiqi335 Жыл бұрын
1:09 imagine that situation with super mega epic turbo pinkies (the save and x1 load bug), that should be scary
@bri-guy894
@bri-guy894 Жыл бұрын
“Screw this” is an appropriate phrase for that room
@rustyjones7908
@rustyjones7908 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite doom 2 map. Interesting in seeing how nightmare breaks it lol.
@hojoman85
@hojoman85 Жыл бұрын
Half my childhood was spent in MAP08.
@OldMovieRob
@OldMovieRob Жыл бұрын
My mind is blown at how easy you made that level look.
@Alonbs9
@Alonbs9 Жыл бұрын
I really thought this map will be one of the hardest maps, just because the amount of backtracking, abd facing tons of spawned monsters. You made it look easy. This difficulty is like solving a riddle, this is so amazing and goes to show how great was the game and the level design. Romero the goat
@maxilew1227
@maxilew1227 Жыл бұрын
Iconic doom2 level. Cool!
@Celebelena
@Celebelena Жыл бұрын
You made that look so easy. Well played.
@alon-zy916
@alon-zy916 2 ай бұрын
Despite this level burned my soul down on my UV-fast with pistol start walkthrough it's still pretty funny and I got some masochistic pleasure by playing it
@lhfirex
@lhfirex Жыл бұрын
So many pinkies, so little space if they get out of their big room.
@VictoryNotVengeance
@VictoryNotVengeance Жыл бұрын
Imagine how insanely difficult this map would be without invulnerability spheres. Yikers😬
@chiqi335
@chiqi335 Жыл бұрын
Tricks and Traps was the first time I used infighting on purpose and my first doom map I beated UV max + pistol start, i remember it with nostalgia :) PD: 14 maps before pain
@chriswaudby1084
@chriswaudby1084 Жыл бұрын
O yes I've been looking forward to this map
@avvn9331
@avvn9331 Жыл бұрын
I liked this map, and the midi was nice, the nightmare level is difficult so many, playing on lower level of difficulty the rooms seems so huge
@simonlemerveilleuxdelisle3779
@simonlemerveilleuxdelisle3779 Жыл бұрын
Intense. Imagine that run if there would be no plasma gun or no bfg in that map. It would be extremely difficult!
@BioShockisAWESOME
@BioShockisAWESOME Жыл бұрын
I really LOVE this map!
@BorisAnatolievich
@BorisAnatolievich Жыл бұрын
3:41 it's funny that Peter has exactly map09 100% NM secrets+items video solely of recent stuff presented on his channel
@Ben_of_Langley
@Ben_of_Langley Жыл бұрын
Tricks and traps the first level which I wasn't bothered about getting all the kills and secrets I just wanted to get out the level the bfg was always a nice treat but I never bothered with the room with the pain elementals and you know what it's not so much the level itself the combat is okay the level design is nothing special for me personally the reason I didn't like this level is simply getting to the exit the amount of times which I have lost count that I messed up running across those platforms and having to start the level again my god it drove me crazy is the feeling I had lol but yeah one good thing did come from it though which was I always remembered going forward to save at the start of each level so that was good. Anyway enough of my ranting though Last thing even to this day although my skill is far far better than it was back then that run to the exit still gets me here and there anyway as always Cheers for upload decino
@BassSlapper89
@BassSlapper89 Жыл бұрын
Favorite map from Doom 2.
@rankoinazuma6788
@rankoinazuma6788 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a fun map Perfectly played pumpkin man!
@asabovesobelow1362
@asabovesobelow1362 Жыл бұрын
@Decino does doomguy block splash damage from the rocket launcher, like when you were invincible in the horde of barrons, were the barrons behind you taking damage?
@decino
@decino Жыл бұрын
Nope.
@Radii_DC
@Radii_DC Жыл бұрын
Wow, this difficulty level isn't even remotely fair!
@tartanskyhookz
@tartanskyhookz Жыл бұрын
I love this map, such and apt name too
@MikeJackson690
@MikeJackson690 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Nailed it.
@ssbooth
@ssbooth Жыл бұрын
I was playing this through on HMP recently and I let the Cyberdemon infight whilst I plundered the room[s] of pinkies. Upon retrieving the unholy BFG, I turned the corner, only to find the Cyberdemon meandering around in the first pinky room, trying to hunt me down!! Not cool, Mister, not cool.
@dinitroacetylen
@dinitroacetylen Жыл бұрын
Tricks and Traps, now even trickier and trappier.
@NTAD
@NTAD Жыл бұрын
Imagine if your only outtake was falling off at the end.
@GeorgeTaylor-ux7bq
@GeorgeTaylor-ux7bq Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the help brother
@GeorgeTaylor-ux7bq
@GeorgeTaylor-ux7bq Жыл бұрын
Tricks and traps was awesome to play
@JangianTV
@JangianTV Жыл бұрын
Goodness! Thought there would be several items dotted around; only 5! 😁
@Mr.Manta5988
@Mr.Manta5988 Жыл бұрын
I played Tricks and traps for the first time one or two days ago. Two times actually because I died in a later level and didn't save the game. After I cleared the pinkies, I pressed the switches to open the secret pathway but the left switch didn't stay activated. Is that a bug or did I do something wrong?
@decino
@decino Жыл бұрын
It's a repeatable switch.
@_vez
@_vez Жыл бұрын
The teleporting cyberdemon is a menace
@leodoom8563
@leodoom8563 Жыл бұрын
The map is not really hard to be honest, considering the couple invul spheres but, the real killer is definitely the exit trap. I still remember the first time that I died there on the PSX version of Doom 2. Slow, painful and frustrating death...
@RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera
@RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera Жыл бұрын
Ahhh map 8 Tricks and Traps one of my doom 2 maps this map believe it or not I religiously play pistol start all the time cuz is fun and I Love it and yes I did play this map occasionally on nightmare difficulty and believe it or not I actually found it more enjoyable than that in Ultraviolence I'm not kidding. Definitely a fun map on nightmare without a doubt :-)
@lucierymelez9204
@lucierymelez9204 Жыл бұрын
:o perfect run GG 💜💜
@therealPSXer
@therealPSXer Жыл бұрын
You could've used the teleporter in the caco room that appears after you step on the first platform past the red door. That way you can avoid all that pesky platforming. Though it might not be worth it since you'd have to go to the main room again with all the enemies there.
@matheusrios4223
@matheusrios4223 Жыл бұрын
he did it, and made it look so easy in the meantime. or maybe I just suck too much at nightmare :c but I was indeed curious how you would do this one so that answers my question. also the very first pain elemental of the game... yay... you know what, no yay ¬.¬ map 9 is next and it has tons of hitscanners to deal with, lets see how our hero pumpkin man deals with it :D
@ВиториоКлиментов
@ВиториоКлиментов 6 ай бұрын
Nice gameplay, dude.
@iguana9173
@iguana9173 Жыл бұрын
Cyberdemon didn’t last long on nightmare. Lol. He’ll be back in map 10. I Guaranteed there will be lots of outtakes on the pit.
@jrock718
@jrock718 Жыл бұрын
Nice run pumpkin man
@oliverbaker8575
@oliverbaker8575 Жыл бұрын
some lucky RNG with that shotgunner at the start
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