Dedicated Dashcam Batteries vs. Portable USB Battery Packs

[@kribjo]

This might be one of the best lessons in battery usage for a specific purpose. Simple and informative. Thanks.

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[@Rubiodiamante]

An outstanding introduction to the two different battery types. Thank you for sharing the info!

[@SnoCoScanner]

I had been wondering about the dedicated battery packs. Thanks for the video.

[@dgoatranch]

Coming from an engineer, you nailed it! Yes, Ah and Wh is basic power law with time factored in, but it still requires a good understanding of Volts, Amps and Watts. Nice job!

[@LiranKo]

There is another solution, car jump starter batteries. Bigger capacity, 12v, basically same features, with extra functionality and they are also car safe as they are packed with the same lithium iron phosphate batteries.

[@pattilb1211]

How could you do this?

[@mavirek]

@@pattilb1211 Did you ever learn the secret?

[@Krazie316]

This actually was very helpful. I'll admit I was annoyed about how much the Blackvue B-124X kit cost. I still think it's a bit pricey, but the video makes it more clear as to the why.

[@zaberfreedom8224]

Personal experience most battery banks can charge, and output at the same time, they only stop power output for a second when plugged in, most likely some sort of safety reset. You can also diy a battery bank with a TP4056 micro USB 5V 1A lithium battery charger board with output, that doesn't cut power output unless battery voltage drops below 3v, hook board output up to a 5v 1A usb step up converter, which should be more than enough for any dash cam.

[@sharedknowledge6640]

This is true especially of the name brand, like Anker, batteries. With the no name brand of the week Chinese designed junk that Amazon pushes however all bets are off. It also depends on how much power you need to pull from the pack and your charging source. If you’re pulling 2 amps and charging at 2.4 amps the battery will receive little if any charge due to efficiency losses. Dash cam specs often specify 2 amps at 5 volts but typically draw more like 0.3 to 1 amp when recording. In reality unless you’re going to park your car somewhere risky for days at a time the 1.5 to 5 watts of power won’t drain your vehicles battery that much. 10 hours at work would be 50 watt hours worst case. A car battery can deliver over 500 watt hours and still start the car. So you’re only using 10% of your car battery’s effective accessory capacity. And those numbers are all conservative. A dash cam could do say 10 fps in parking mode to reduce power consumption until it detects an incident. You can buy security cameras now that run 24x7 for up to a year on small internal batteries. They do so by only recording when they detect something worth recording.

[@deviprasadshetty2137]

Thanks a lot for clearing my all doubts... I was literally searching for this kind of a video...

[@PanzerPlatform]

Thank you for making this video. This is exactly the information I was looking for. Everything in the video is helpful, and factual except for one thing, (not your fault) more on that later. My take away from this video are; - 1.) It all comes down to application (both have pros & cons). - 2.) The difference in battery technology, and construction. Lithium Iron Phosphate (good in low & high temperatures). Lithium Ion (poor performance in cold temps & dangerous in high temps). - 3.) Not all mAh capacity ratings are created equal. 5 Volt USB mAh rating is approximately 3 times less than 12.6 Volt mAh ratings. (1,000 mAh @ 5 Volts, is equal to 300mAh @ 12.6 Volts). - At 4:50 you say USB Power Banks can not be charged, and power a separate device simultaneously. Back in July 2018 when this video was filmed that may have been true. However, today I have a few USB Power Banks that I use to power devices, and charge simultaneously. Example; When camping I charge my cell phone with my power bank, while it’s being charged from a solar panel, (I can’t connect my cell phone directly to the solar panel). -Chuck

[@VortexRadar]

Thanks. Yeah you're right about the pass through charging and there devices now that do offer that. That is a very useful feature. :)

[@JuanNadal]

It sounds so simple after you explain it.

[@296296286]

Watching this video at 2021, but most of this was true even at 2018. 1.many of the power banks can infact charge while also operating (charging) a phone (or dashcam). People use it as backup for home cameras. 2.most of the power banks can fully charge in less than one hour. I own a 10000 mah power bank which fully charged In less than 40 minuter (and yes, can at same time transfer charge to connected device). I also have a jump starter (136000 mah) which can be used to charge phones etc, also charges in one hour. 3.perhaps weather is a factor, but not for everyone. You could use it safely just like you use a phone inside the car.

[@aclvaz]

Great review! However, there are more Jump starters that have pass-through and they can charge while powering dash cams. Also, li-on batteries today are not so easy to catch fire or even explode and can withstand temperatures of 80/90°C which a car's inside temperature can reach in an hour on a summer day with outside temperature of 35/40°C. To be extra sure, place it inside a lipo safebag. The only issue is the running ability of the battery on such an hot environment. Typical Li-ion is usually rated to work up to 60°C. On the other hand, i saw that BV B-124 also has the similar operating limits (it is a Li-ion battery but with different cathode material )

[@VortexRadar]

Do you have some links to some that you’ve used that would do the job? How quickly do they take to recharge?

[@danwat1234]

@@VortexRadar I have a cheap Blackweb brand USB bank i bought at Walmart that can power the ports while charging. Surely there are other power banks that can do the same.

[@stephenpowstinger733]

What is all the centigrade crap? 60°C = what.

[@aclvaz]

@@stephenpowstinger733google is your friend... 60º Celcius = 140º Fahrenheit

[@yumingwang8201]

Thanks so much for the clear explanation. You've answered my question about the myth battery.

[@sespider]

The battery with the jumper cables is indeed awesome. I have one of a different brand. Ironically, I've been using it to jump my truck in the mornings, because my dashcam keeps draining my truck battery.

[@stevejordan2575]

Halo Bolt 58830 ultimate Power Source I am going to give a try. I have to see if this works

[@tallnrough68]

There are many power banks that have PASS THROUGH, which enable the same function as those DASH CAM batteries. Power will go through the USB Power bank to power something, then when the power to the power bank gets turned off then power bank powers whatever is plugged into it... aka the dash cam

[@benmatheson1189]

in the uk we dont have sun so il be fine

[@rrrogster]

Really? Have you every checked the temperature inside your car when it is parked facing the sun and the windows are up?

[@mcdangles971]

@@rrrogster Whoooosh.

[@ChrisHiltonSr]

Ben Matheson 🤣

[@scottcarder9543]

Did it work for you mate?? I'm in Australia 🇦🇺 which puts me in the s#%t lol

[@hemih2728]

Thank you for teaching the general public about how dangerous portable lithium battery packs can be in a car with extreme temperatures.

[@stephenpowstinger733]

I don't think offhand that Lithium battery mfrs warn you of heat danger.

[@MikesDIYTeslaPowerwall]

Getting a Battery is a must for parking mode. I put a new Blackvue 900 in and packed the car on a night out. Guess what! i didn't have a battery for the cam so parking mode was disabled and some silly "...." scratched the back window (next to the rear cam) gosh i wish i had the parking mode working. No way i am going to pay for above batterys i will just build one but for everyone else i would completely agree that everyone should get one for parking mode its a must..

[@VortexRadar]

Oh man, I'm so sorry to hear that! Yeah you could always get a Power Magic Pro which lets the camera run off of your car battery too and it's way cheaper than the B-124 so that's an option too. I used one for a while, but it's put a heavy toll on my car battery so I don't get much run time off of it anymore. bit.ly/2J5zRzq

[@bmm760036]

Very informative video. Thanks also for giving clear examples along the way, it shows you’ve really used both sets of batteries extensively.

[@alittletoofrank]

You’re like my best friend right now. Excellent video with crucial information I was looking for. Bravo!

[@kage7772]

one of the most informative videos that explains all the different angles. Thank you!

[@garyt123]

Great video! Cleared up a lot of questions I had about batteries, charging and safety. Thank you.

[@TheBearbertie]

You don't need to press button to charge - most devices start automatically. The Ravpower usb battery packs can charge and output at the same time...

[@jorgemoreno9143]

Finally a video I can just show to those who ask why I bought a dedicated dashcam battery instead of a portable power bank.

[@raywhitsell6614]

Excellent summary!...having issues with powering a GLC 300de PHEV. 12Volt fuses seem to be on a regulator which every so often drops to 3Volt for a few seconds which kills the Blackvue in park mode...was going to feed the permanent ( Non ignition)12Volt supply through a battery pack to get the 6 hours shut down that I wanted...

[@kylecarey9692]

Instead of buying this battery backup being advertised at 6000mah which is 6ah and will last up to 20 hrs with both camers active in parking mode. Put a battery isolator in your car, buy an extra and separate car battery and hook the blackvue camera system to the battery on the isolator... say a 90ah battery. Using this, with blackvues battery at $300ish gets 20 hours in parking mode. Using a battery isolator with a 90ah battery... 300 hours in park mode... at half the cost. 🤫

[@VortexRadar]

There's more than one way to skin a cat. :)

[@neojack333]

it's complicated to cleanly store an extra 12v car battery in a car. that would be in the trunk, and be in the way.

[@Jaze2022]

@@neojack333 buy a small motorcycle battery. 5x more capacity at half the cost and about the same size. The question is can it be recharged fast enough.

[@Super6ix06]

Very interesting. Always thought blackvue was overpriced for only 20hrs. I need at least 48hrs for 4 180 degree cameras for total surround recording while parked. Living in NYC someone’s always messing with your car. Directly or indirectly.

[@AIRfree]

Will the camera “Parking Mode” functionality will work if i would add a auxiliary battery and plug the camera directly to it? Who would the camera know when it is the time to go to “continuously mode” or in “parking mode”. ??

[@mikethomas6633]

Thanks! Very informative. I've never owned a dash cam and this is one part of the equation that I have never thought about.

[@psychollek]

As for the automatic work - at least the cheap battery pack I own (on the larger side - 20000 mAh) works - that is it is providing voltage and current on output at the same time as drawing current from input.

[@VortexRadar]

Yeah this video is a bit dated now and I believe there’s multiple Li Ion batteries that offer what you’re saying, presumably using pass through charging. :)

[@psychollek]

@@VortexRadar This power bank has like 5 or so years :D

[@psychollek]

@Krishna some Chinese no brand. But i also have newer Anker powerbanks and all of them have this functionality explicitly stated. One does have to excercise caution about the temperature though.

[@hornetluca]

Thoroughly explanation as usual 👍

[@marmadukecarruthers8751]

The phone battery chargers can still be used whilst the battery is being charged. So both devices (battery and phone) can be charging at same time.

[@VortexRadar]

Depending on the model of battery, yeah there are some that support that capability.

[@nirmals.2552]

Very nice video explaining the differences. Keep up the good work. I actually have both CellLink Neo and then just bought the Blackvue B124 and have both hardwired.

[@VortexRadar]

Ah nice! What are your thoughts on how they compare?

[@nirmals.2552]

Vortex Radar First of all, thanks for the vids you make, they're very helpful. Kudos and cheers! They're both pretty good and noticed that they're actually made by the same company Egen. I noticed that since B-124 was starting to sell, didn't see much of the Neo in the market. Charging wise they're great and for the longest time, I had the Neo connected through the self connect (Cig Lghtr socket) but I found a video on my particular car and finally hardwired it, what a difference. I like how the expansion packs are sold too and compatible with the B124 but they're just as expensive as the main battery pack, lol. I couldn't get it now but maybe in future as I start getting more devices connected. Thanks again for your stuff.

[@Mixwell1983]

Those jumpstarter packs are amazing. I had one that finally died but i jumped a few cars and also used it to charge my phone many times..

[@ScytheNoire]

Should be just able to stop at "Li-ion can explode in hot temperatures" and that should be enough of a reason.

[@VicInCommentSection]

Safety is important, yes. However, some people don't live in areas with hot temperatures, so that doesn't apply to them.

[@skontzias]

Great video! Some things to note. A few battery banks today have what is called “pass through” in which you can charge the battery and power a device at the same time. My setup is using a cigarette lighter to charge my lithium ion polymer battery. My dual channel anker dash cam Is then plugged into a switch which is then plugged into the USB port on the battery bank. I get about 20 hours of recording on regular mode when the car is off. I may only use this setup in colder months as I’m still afraid of exposing the battery to temps in excess of 140F

[@VortexRadar]

That’s true. Yeah there are some that do that, laptop chargers are a good example, and I forgot to mention that as an example. Thanks’

[@aclvaz]

Stavros Kontzias, thinking on using something similar. The heat issue I think is overrated. Ii-Ion batteries today are reasonably safe and can withstand 80/90° C (not sure however if they will keep working in such extreme temperatures or will shutdown to cool off after hitting 70°C). I am even considering placing the power bank/jump starter inside a lipo safebag just to give an additional level of security.

[@jjmejia_21]

what power bank do you use for this? Does the power bank not turn off when dash cam is fully charge?

[@psfgtech]

Very informative, thank you. Now it’s searching for the best dash cam with IR for Hot Florida

[@RocksOff72]

I appreciate everything you laid out in this video. A few years ago when I traveled to France, someone did a hit and run into my parked rental car at night. My dashcams that i had brought and installed in the rental failed to turn on when the car was struck. So, now I'm heading back to Europe this fall and wanted to have an option that would keep the dashcams on when the car is parked, both at night and during the day during excursions. I don't think flying with that big Blackvue is an option? So, if it's not going to be hot, since I'll be visiting in the fall, will one of those Anker portable battery banks suffice for nighttime and day excursions usage? Are there any new battery packs that came on the market in the last four years since you made this video that you'd recommend? Much thanks.

[@VortexRadar]

Yeah I just posted a pair of videos on it channel with a bunch of updated information. Have a great trip!

[@music-wd4ed]

You are right about the type of batteries but it is not true to say that the portable lithium that is available today could not be charged and recharged at the same time, almost every such battery does that.

[@VortexRadar]

Yes you’re right that now there are many models that have added this feature.

[@kibafng]

But what if i only need a battery pack to run the camera only in parking mode at night time

[@neojack333]

you would have to change the battery every few nights, and charge at home

[@brx8r]

Thank you. I bought one of those small battery jumpstart units and it puffed up from being left in the boot. LAME! I also want to keep a small phone charger in the car for emergencies (my phone batteries went flat once when I was on the phone to roadside assistance and my car batt was dead too), so now I know the drawbacks.

[@alphacretz]

Lithium is lithium even you have PO4 mixed. There always will be the risk from any type of power bank especially in summers

[@RandomSmith]

Great video, Probably worth mentioning that some powerbanks have passthrough charging rather than none and powerbanks can power on automatically without pressing the power button. Also you can get 12v in powerbanks and not all powerbanks are lithium ion some are the lithium phoshate variety.

[@VortexRadar]

That is true. LiIon really doesn't like passthrough charging, but you're right, there's others I didn't cover that do support that feature.

[@citizenpark2782]

@vortexradar i need ur help. I have a togaurd backup camera directly connected to my fuse box. Since the install, I noticed my car having battery drainage issues. I did a voltage test battery and the togaurd appeared fine. When I keep the togaurd plugged it.... I still get battery issues. When I unplug the power supply to the mirror, I don’t have issues. Any idea what I should do or why it’s like that?

[@sharedknowledge6640]

The reality is most dash cams can continuously record for the durations people typically need them to without significantly draining the vehicle battery-say 10 hours or less. Even better would be dash cams that reduce their frame rate until they detect motion and then shoot at a normal frame rate for the duration of the incident. You can get outdoor security cameras and video door bells that are battery powered with some running 24x7 for a year between charges with only about a 20 watt hour battery. Dash cam makers need to do better. You should be able to leave your dash cam running for 2 weeks while say parked at the airport without significant drain on your vehicle’s battery and still capture people and vehicles moving nearby. A healthy car battery can supply over 500 watt hours and still start the vehicle.

[@tomf429]

My son lives in NYC and has to park on the street. So, he needs parking guard. The problem is, his car may not be driven for several days. The only solution I can think of is (2) dedicated dashcam batteries and the need to rotate the batteries daily by charging inside while the one powering the dashcam is rotated inside daily and replaced by the fully charged battery.

[@Lizard6376]

Is there a particular reason I couldn't purchase a 12v, 100Ah LiFePO4 battery and wire it in parallel (and a low voltage cut off) with my 12v lead acid car battery? Will this damage either battery?

[@AIRfree]

Yee, there is a reason , and is the same reason why you haven’t got any answer until now: it-s because it FUkCing cheap to DIY . They are paid by companies to promote their shits and that whould be contraproductive to advise you how to save money. Instead, they advise you how to SPEnD money!!! Keep this in mind!

[@mavirek]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge of all these. I am interested in adding a dash cam, especially for the Parking Mode. But I am put off by having to either wire this to my car battery or buying an expensive, one purpose Cellink Neo or the like. Do you have any reason to doubt whether a Jackery or Yeti, or any other external battery popular with off-grid/campervan enthusiasts, could also do the job of running a dash cam, especially in parking mode?

[@stephenpowstinger733]

2 yrs ago but there is always the heat caused fire danger of Lithium

[@Pwnagotchi-0]

Great review, you really did some thorough research there.

[@eamonndelaney9355]

perfect video for what i was looking for, answered most of my questions.

[@dcwatashi]

Stupid question, but could you not place the smaller portable battery packs in a cooler with ice packs if you are using it for your dash cam in park mode during the summertime?

[@bishwolal]

been waiting for this video long time... thanks for the video

[@martinparkinson935]

Thank you for your video and explanation of dashcam battery solutions. I bought a VIOFO 139 camera from your recommendations and review, thank you, but the settings. :) I have become very confused with the 'parking' features and settings, I thought it used sensors and would use a battery within the dashcam activated on motion. But now wondering if it has that built-in at all and I've needed a dashcam battery all along. This is going to sound stupid, I am confused. You can buy a cable direct to your battery, but thinking this is going to discharge your car battery you may not be able to start your car 'hence dashcam battery', so why sell direct cables to batteries? I watched a different video on setting up a dashcam battery and instead of going to the battery, it was connected to a 12v feed in the fusebox, so I'm not running my cable to my boot. Arrrgh. I decided I wanted an alternate battery source anyway, but then I'm now wondering about all of the 'parked' recording settings. I may have missed one of your videos on the dashcam parking settings, but what is the effect on the battery/ dashcam battery? Now I'm thinking a dashcam solution is good for me, as my commute is an hour each way, so that will charge up to full. My wife's commute is only 10 minutes but would be on all day in a public car park, I'd need a secondary charging solution for the dashcam battery. Our dashcams became more expensive all of a sudden.

[@DavyDave1313]

I really don’t want to hardwire a dashcam into my fuse box. Also that big clunky thing is not gonna fit anywhere in my little mustang. In my specific case, I have dedicated camera surveillance at my office parking and my spot specifically always is in full view. My plan is to buy that 26,800mah battery and I can get it fully charged when I am at work for 8 hours so it works out pretty great. I don’t think I will have a heat issue since the battery will not be in direct sunlight but most likely the glovebox where it usually stays cool

[@TheLordstrider]

Nice video but in my country the sun is scorching hot and no one sends this dedicated car batteries to my country. is there a temperature resistant power banks (extreme weather or something? heat is the problem over here.) thanks in advance.

[@binaypatel7665]

how do you connect a dash cam to a power bank?

[@Mixwell1983]

I have some large 4.0ah batteries for my power tools and a usb adapter for it.. I thinking about using it here and there. Just wondering kinda how to setup parking mode with a usb powerbank. Temperature isnt an issue where I am. As far as recharge time, my quick charger will do my 18v drill batteries in about 30- 1hour depending on the size. I have a couple 1.5ah, 1 3.0ah with the 27000 cells instead of 18650s and also a 4.0.. I wouldnt use it likely on a daily basis but say if i went out somewhere for the day and was gona be parked a while. Edit: i thought (which you confirmed) i would have to switch power cord from lighter to powerbank and enable manually parking mode so you answered my question.

[@sanjoe1246]

thanks for always making such helpful videos. have you try connecting viofo a129pro to this battery pack does the parking mode work. thanks

[@keithborden4049]

Whew, thank you, that was close 😱🤣😷

[@chris_758]

Hello VR🙂, I am curious about what you think of the Vezo 360 Dashcam. I don't have a lot of money but think it looks good.

[@HH-CA]

I will simply go with a high end battery bank with built in protection.......... and never waste money on overpriced dedicated dashcam batteries.

[@yogiyoda]

which do you use?

[@MrFooSteven]

You could just buy 2 or even 3 of the high capacity power banks(20,000mAh +) use one, recharge the other(s) and be way better off

[@BlownMacTruck]

What's considered a "waste of money" is highly subjective.

[@PamelaCurry]

Actually some lithium ion batty packs can be used and charge simultaneously. Though you are correct they are not a good fit for this purpose.

[@VortexRadar]

Yeah, there are some that can do that. It turns out it’s a limitation of the ones I have.

[@k.1061]

I hope you can answer my question. To put it in simple terms, without hardwiring say I connected my car to an external lithium iron phosphate power battery (via cigarette lighter output/input), and that battery is then connected to a dash cam, say, VIOFO A119 Mini 2. How will the dashcam know when to switch from continuous recording mode to parking mode? Will I need to manually switch the mode on the dashcam whenever I park and get out? If this causes no issue, I'd love to give this method a try without hardwiring it. I assume the battery will charge while driving, but as soon as the car is parked and the car's turned off, the battery will be charging the dashcam until I return and turn my car back on. Do all Lithium Iron Phosphate battery charge only using the alternator when connected to a car?

[@VortexRadar]

Right that’s the idea.

[@noconfusion25]

there are bad reviews of that battery pack (blackvue) on amazon, I dont know what to do....

[@wandanuttallyesmeto1827]

I have a life po4 battery pack from old solar generator. The electrical boards didn’t work. I took out the battery pack,add charge controller. From the charge controller,I connected 80w solar panel and cigarette lighter plug. I use the cigarette lighter plug for my dash cam. In our boat , BUT I don’t like going through hours of footage. My dash cam say it needs hard wire kit so parking mode will work. I don’t want to use the boats fuse panel. HOW can I make it work?

[@HadiBenoy]

I was thinking of doing that, thank you so much for the info sir !

[@thenakednoodle9531]

But would have been helpful o how to use the normal mobile battery packs to power a dash

[@modernbassheads5051]

I built my own lifepo4 bank for my sound system and I can hardwire the dash cam directly to that, you can buy headway batteries from sriko and do it yourself

[@zaberfreedom8224]

I had a dash cam with super capacitors, complete trash from the beginning, couldn't even hold a charge long enough for the dash cam to shut off, shutting off audio phrase would always cutoff part way through, didn't even last 2 months, also managed to kill my car battery (that is bigger than original size for saturn vue) over 2 days. I have a new one with an actual battery that works properly no problem what so ever, even works when unplugged, I've only had it about a week, so we'll see how long it last. (Mexico, NY) Edit 9/13/22 second dashcam lasted about a year and a half(charging circuit just fried, tried different battery) got a third (similar design as second) third has lasted since then with no problems.

[@piksnapper]

The purpose of the capacitor is so that the camera will keep running at extreme temps, I had two lithium battery Dashcams that couldn't run when temps went below -5C. Capacitor versions will keep going when it's super cold and I would imagine when it's hot also. Now I need a external battery to keep it running.

[@rickratchford5131]

If all someone is interested in is park mode overnight, and not intending to use the dash cam during the day, wouldn't the portable USB battery pack work just fine?

[@VortexRadar]

It would do the job, yeah. Something to keep in mind though is that results may vary depending on which dashcam you use and how it's wired. Some may not switch into parking mode properly if running off a battery pack, so you'll want to be careful with that.

[@Alvan81]

Dashcams should have white or silver finish instead of Black, which sucks up Heat!🤔

[@GerardB2023]

Brilliant video!! Finally someone explained the reasoning.. Well done. Loved it!! Love your videos.

[@amzarnacht6710]

Ahh, great little video explaining the distinctions - I had not realized there were any! (why don't dashcams use the LIP batteries, then, rather than LIon or Capacitors?) Having something like that little battery cell looking one would be nice if you got into an incident and wanted to just snatch the dash-cam out, plug into the portable, and use it for filming - while you're on the phone with 911 and not using it to record.

[@me_rap27]

Does this dedicated external battery works with different kinds of dash cameras? or specific with the same brand of cams??

[@VortexRadar]

As long as you use the proper cabling, it’s fine.

[@swissjetpilot1542]

Any possibility of a Solar Panel to keep things charged and running?

[@YouTube_Nr.1]

Are you sure the li iron phosphate batteries are charging the dashcam while being charged as well and are not just using a relais to link the 12V of the car directly to the dashcam? Cause that would make more sense and would be more efficient.

[@RATEthisrateTHAT]

Great info and exactly what I was looking for. Thx

[@Yot359]

very informative! but theres omething i never fing the answer to : Start-stop equiupped SUV's are usually equipped with batteries rated at usually 70Ah, so roughly 840Wh, wouldnt that power a 160mA/h dashcam for over 500 hours ? am i calculating something wrong or why is it a bad idea to just use a powermagic pro and no additional battery? thanks!

[@faharingei5007]

you da man. I need no other channel.

[@Albert-the-Astro]

Extremely helpful review Dude thx for your time and effort! Peace

[@RevealedNature]

Very informative! Can you use the jump start battery with in and out (charge and supply power at the same time) with the Jump Start Battery same as you can with the dedicated dash cam battery?

[@dylan-nguyen]

Hey Vortex Radar, not sure if you’ll read this, but I hope you do another comparison of 12v battery banks vs the dedicated dash cam ones. All the ones you’ve shown are 5v batteries for phones. They sell 12v 6000mah battery banks (similar to the dash cam one shown) and it will charge with a 12v input (so you can use a car cigarette lighter with adapter) and you can charge and discharge at the same time. These are around $40 and have a battery management controller. I haven’t gotten my hands on the dash cam batteries but from the spec sheets they basically look like these but rebranded and much more expensive.

[@VortexRadar]

Do you have a link to one?

[@dylan-nguyen]

Vortex Radar www.amazon.com/dp/B00ME3ZH7C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_vNPzEbE53QZD4

[@VortexRadar]

Great, thanks. Looks like that's Lithium-Ion, not Lithium Iron Phosphate, but that's great that it can charge and output power at the same time.

[@Charles-dv4du]

Oh my, what another Outstanding review Sir!! Thank you very much for your dedication to supporting us consumers!! I’m planning to purchase the TW U1000, but which dashcam battery pack do you recommend as the Best or most powerful?

[@VortexRadar]

Great timing! That used to be the Cellink Neo, but now it’s the BI-750. It has both larger capacity and faster recharging. It’s also on sale for Black Friday right now. :) geni.us/BBMC-BI750 You can also consider the expansion for even longer recording. geni.us/BBMC-BE750

[@awsomeal100]

The B112 Ultra Battery Pack Takes 40 Minutes To Fully Charge Only When Hard Wired To The Car....And 80 Minutes To Fully Recharge When Connected To Cigarette Lighter Socket...Overall Good Demo....The Blackvue Power Magic Pro ,Which Has To Be Hard Wired Is A Much Cheaper Option But Has Been Known To Not Be 100% Reliable....Maybe Due To Incorrect Connectivity.....No Worries With The Battery Pack.....Peace Of Mind And 100% Trustworthy...Especially In Parking Mode.

[@integralcam]

Thanks for this video, it is something I have wanted to stress to people for awhile. Using the cellink neo and power magic ultra this year I can't stress less how important it is that i can drive 10-15 minutes to work and have enough charge to record all day. with lithium ion batteries you're gonna quickly end up with a dead battery and it'll be impossible to drive enough on a daily commute to keep it charged. With the cellink battery b i would always shut off my thinkware cam off at home to save battery, but with these new ones I don't ever worry and let them run all the time and still charges quick enough. fantastic batteries.

[@VortexRadar]

No

[@ryangarrido88]

Appreciate the info. Will you be testing the iroad which is on preorder from blackboxmycar? I live in the desert where upwards of 90 degrees is common and I've considered the iroad for its heat resiliency. I'm wondering if it's a better idea for my situation than the blackvue 900 or even 750.

[@VortexRadar]

I have no plans to test it. They asked me to when it first came out, but it doesn't look like it has anything super appealing and I wanna test out cameras that have something unique that we haven't seen before. It's really similar to the F800 Pro and DR750S type cameras. Maybe once I finish everything else that's a higher priority then I could take a look at it, but I have no plans to at this point.

[@antondiaz8547]

Hi I really like your videos and I need your help/input. I have the blackvue b-124 and it powers my dr750-2ch. I went on a 1 week vacation and when I came back my car battery was dead. I thought when the car was turned off the b-124 will power my dashcam and once the b-124 is drained it will not get power from my car. Is that make sense? I have 2019 mazda 3 and it was plugged in the cigarette port. Thanks in advance!

[@richard4079]

If you use cigarette lighter for powering the black Vue battery do you unplug when you turn car off?

[@TCSkiFilms]

Sooo ... why not hardwire to the car battery? I doubt a dashcam will drain the battery if the camera is in motion control/parked mode.

[@vickyvanderbilt875]

I got your reply. Thanks. The dr900s is it the same as the dr900x which is a new one. Are all the dash cams can be used with a power pack? If do which is the most simple camera can use a power pack? Thanks

[@VortexRadar]

The DR900X has a number of improvements over the DR900S discussed here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2aWXpJpfr13bsk I suppose you could technically use just about any dashcam with a battery, provided you use the proper cabling. Different dashcams have different types of parking mode recording though which is way beyond the scope of this video.

[@toddflyer]

Excellent video! It answered many questions I had about the dash cam batteries.

[@michaelkawecki1592]

The Blackvue battery seems to have some bad reviews as well as connector burning issues? Your thoughts?

[@vanoptikum_nero]

Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you

[@VortexRadar]

Great to hear!

[@bobsmithinson2050]

Awesome video..great presentation as always

[@IIGrayfoxII]

Those battery banks for dashcams are set up in a 3SxP set up Those battery banks for phones are set up in a 1SxP set up x depends on the capacity version.

[@VortexRadar]

What do you mean?

[@IIGrayfoxII]

@@VortexRadar 1S1P refers to the configuration of the batteries inside For instance the Cellink Neo is 6,000mAh and is 12v output This means it is most likely wired up as a 4S2P set up. 4x3.6v to give the voltage and each cell is also wired up in parallel to give the capacity 4 cells are in series 2 parallel. Looking up 4S2P in google images can explain it.

[@VortexRadar]

Oh S and P as in series and parallel. Gotcha. What’s the relevance or significance of batteries run in different configurations like that?

[@IIGrayfoxII]

@@VortexRadar Capacity or Voltage or Both. Phone/Tablet Powerbanks dont need to have more than 5v, so they go for capacity. So 2mAh to 20Ah but voltage remains the same. Dashcam Powerbanks need 12v so you need 3 or 4 wired in series and then you can wire them up in parallel for added capacity. Power tool batteries like those 3Ah Li-Ion batteries in drills are wired up in Series to get the 18v

[@lookatcha]

Excellent vid With a brilliant explanation. I have the same anker jump starter battery in my car, I love it

[@Pie4life123]

I just want sometime that keeps my cameras alive for 3 mins cause once the car is off the camera is off and I want the cameras to record my door opening Incase someone hits me or my door and claims I opened it on them.

[@elitestar]

Then you just need the device which monitors your car’s voltage and cuts off power when it crosses a certain threshold.

[@webherring]

Just hardwire your camera

[@dinuguan510]

New Li-ion battery packs today don't stay on. They turn off randomly for no apparent reason... maybe it's a thermal shutoff. In the past year I've bought and returned a half dozen in this range (25Ah) from different brands and they all do the same thing. Won't charge any of our phones fully without shutting off. The 12V system is the obvious choice for this purpose.

[@normancoutts]

You convinced me for sure. Thank you.

[@sreekanthcs9844]

Very well explained. Thanks a lot. One doubt, what about using power bank with lithium polymer battery. Are they safe ?

[@ctrlaltdebug]

My Garmin GPS has a lipo battery and hasn't blown up yet, sitting in my car parked outside in the sun for 5+ years.

[@ETfrogable]

Is it possible to use a large battery booster such as Autogen 4500 A to supply the dashcam for a long time ??

[@jschackmann2]

What about the portable battery banks that allow Pass though charging ( being used while charging )