Deep Dive into the Duct Tape - and a Mysterious Phone Call... #35

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[@camillecoccagna194]

You are the Hitchcock of the true crime genre Nick. You use a totally different angle. Its amazing. If I sound like a fan girl its because I am and I'm not ashamed to say it😀 Thanks for sharing your gift for this with us

[@blueeyedscorpio7]

💯💯💯

[@beachfly8066]

If the Ramsey’s had been people of a different social class the outcome would have been different

[@ziggypop8106]

Just watched a short documentary. Chinese couple in US, restaurant owners. Mother hits young daughter over the head in anger, she dies, they panic and try to cover it up by saying she's gone missing. They're both in prison awaiting trial . . . .

[@phillythrowbackrapchannel1149]

Yea really

[@guadalupesalgado5604]

So Patsy's brush stick, duct tape used when she painted and her stationary were all used in some way in this crime? And the writing was similar to hers, wow!

[@bryanbradley6871]

Expacilly looking for the supplies which would leave alot of evidence. Unless the person knew where it was

[@karenengelhardt1610]

It's amazing how much class affects the way complete strangers look at others. If this was a blue-collar family with average-looking children (in my opinion JonBenet *was* average looking, but put makeup on and there you are), the case would have been solved and closed years ago. Even the police behaved differently with the Ramseys and allowed so much contamination of the crime scene.

[@emmaevans7011]

I agree. This is the two-tier justice system that Americans live under. God help you if you must depend on the Public Defender if you are ever charged with a crime.

[@heatherwhittaker6169]

I disagree.JonBenet I thought was certainly better than average...

[@rebeccabrown5014]

I hadn’t thought about this but I believe you are correct. As soon as it is clearly a murder, police would separate all family members both to question them individually and to keep any living children safe until the parents are cleared.

[@1_Bad_Z]

Steve Thomas stood up to the Ramseys. He wasn't intimidated by their never-ending law suits that has every one frightened till this day.

[@annjohns350]

And Steve Thomas lost that law suit also.

[@1_Bad_Z]

@@annjohns350 that means what? They slso sued their Housekeeper.

[@christophervaughan2637]

@@davidwilliams4498unfortunately the area these police worker had very few murders and the police department were very inexperienced

[@allietv22]

So tragic, ugh poor babygirl was failed in SO many ways , before & after death. It's so sad she will most likely never truly get justice. 😡💔

[@lorimiller4301]

What kind of justice could ever make this right again ?!!

[@deeannhale5327]

Right!

[@ziggypop8106]

Many cases I've watched where the victim is wrapped or covered in a blanket, it's someone very close to them that has commited the crime.

[@beachfly8066]

Yes, an emotional attachment

[@jakey5630]

Yes I think that is the comfort aspect , you swaddle a new born baby to protect them and keep them warm , a dead child is still connected to you so you would want them to be protected it's an act of love

[@jakey5630]

I also think they cover their face because they cant bare to see what they have done , people not connected wouldn't bother unless it was to hide someone to give them more time to get away without the victim found sooner

[@ziggypop8106]

You're right, people unconnected wouldn't bother.

[@guadalupesalgado5604]

Also the whole kidnapping idea was just to throw off the police. Who goes to a home to kidnap someone and goes through the stranger's house gathering up paper and pen to write the ransom note? Also you don't bring a weapon or anything qith you?

[@janethardy3208]

Just an after thought. It is pretty strange that no duct tape was found because most people have it somewhere in their homes. I know that I do.

[@debrak8521]

Janet Hardy I don't have any duct tape in my house.

[@debrak8521]

@@PrinceCharmingsMom2930 That's nice.

[@Melanie-vj6he]

I believe Jonbenet died much earlier than stated at the Christmas party she attended. The rate of decay of her body was greater than what it should have been if she "disappeared" after coming home from said party. NEVER FORGET JOHN RAMSEY WENT STRAIGHT TO HER BODY WHEN THE DETECTIVE TOLD HIM TO TAKER A LOOK AROUND THE HOUSE.!!!!!!!! REMEM BER THIS ALWAYS!!!!

[@Peaceandlove20240]

It blows my mind that an "intruder" can enter the house and write that note. Then take her from her bed with no one hearing ANYTHING. 🤷‍♀️

[@debrak8521]

Irene P According the police noise made in the basement could not be heard in the parents bedroom. Police did a test.

[@SPORT2932]

The house is huge. The parent's bedroom is on the third floor. I can see why they didn't hear an intruder.

[@gi_gi_alight3712]

Interesting point about "Mind Hunter" is that it's all about 'stageing'. John Douglas caught many serial killers by carefully breaking down the 'stageing'of a crime.⚖️

[@ziggypop8106]

Thank you for some quality weekend viewing. Been waiting for this one, big screen for this I think 😀👍

[@beverlylawyer2286]

The first thing you would do is wake up the brother Burk to ask if he heard or saw anything. Why would have neighbors come over, I would suspect everybody. I would suspect my husband. I would be faster than the police trying to find my child. I couldn't find my four year old for one minute . Everybody in the apartment complex was out , i was pounding on their doors before police arrived. I was told my child went to the reservoir with some kids. I out ran the police officer, calling,screaming out to Jehovah God for help. When I found my child I fell to my knees in tears. The police officer didn't even caught up to me yet. It was extremely hot and humid in Michigan, I lost five pounds in ten minutes.

[@franceskajacobs2766]

Thank you dear Lord for the blessings I'm so glad your baby was okay

[@clutteredgypsie]

🙏💕🙏

[@LunaRiver]

Yeah! Thanks, Nick. I appreciate having some Saturday listening and learning! 😄

[@missbee980]

Wasn't it established that Patsy had beaver fur boots?

[@Investigativebean]

I think that the heart on her hand was probably drawn by one of her little friends the day before. Kids do that stuff.

[@TCRS]

I agree.

[@ziggypop8106]

I read in an article that Patsy would draw a heart on JonBenet so she could 'take her heart wherever she went'. Interesting part was after the murder Patsy was said to have commented on the 'well drawn' heart, then later back peddled.

[@lorimiller4301]

I don't think a 6 year old could draw a perfect heart especially on a hand of another 6 year old. If it was well-drawn then it was more than likely an Adult.

[@annmarienew6125]

Sorry to hear of this tragic loss in your family. May you find comfort in one another.

[@stephenbrunner2543]

I don't know why everyone insists the tape and rope means an intruded. These are not hard things to hide or get rid off. I can't find yet were anyone checked the cars?! John left for over an hour that morning..there is nothing to be concluded by these missing items

[@Theresa-Lottodo]

The beaver hair could quite possibly have been from the paintbrush. ;))

[@beverleytinker2318]

Good point you are very sharp 👍

[@thesilverpen]

Yes, some brands use beaver hair, squirrel, sable, hog, etc.

[@guadalupesalgado5604]

I think everything was a cover up to protect the son!!

[@tatiasresindesigns]

One of these days we will know who the actual killer was and all that was involved in this horrible crime. They can't live with a guilty conscience forever. Someone will come forth.

[@monicshastings8945]

Man I hate hearing about how J. B. struggled and desperately clawed at the cord used to strangle her I too feel the duct tape was just more staging or I might even call it window dressing

[@jonhammer1596]

The whole thing .makes my skin crawl . so also would the word.. Intruder .. But for the fact I almost never say impossible. I will say. Intruder my ass...

[@cn1800]

Maybe there was never a roll of duct tape. Maybe the stager couldn’t find a roll of duct tape so they pulled a strip of used tape off of something in the basement. Anyway, I think we we could ever get the pictures of Christmas Day and especially the missing cell phone records, the case would be solved.

[@Ragdollcatlover]

All the evidence does point to either someone in the family being responsible or that they know who did. But it’s so hard to understand why they would kill their child in such a barbaric way.

[@jjohn4874]

I heard the head wounds wouldn't have killed her, it was done by strangulation.

[@jacquiet6040]

Duct Tape couldn't have happened before she ate the pineapple.

[@Sara-et1bp]

If Patsy wore glows when writing the ransomletter it could explain the sloppy writing as an alternativ to it being written with the left hand.

[@dontask4990]

Patsy was ambidextrous. I am also ambidextrous. It is normal that we use different hands for different things. But the handwriting doesn't have to be the same for both hands. I can write with both hands but I struggle to write with my "off" hand, and the result is very messy. It also creates two different types of handwriting.

[@missbee980]

Perhaps the neck mark was from burke trying to remove the cord. Perhaps the fingernail marks are his not hers.

[@kaybrown4010]

Poor baby. I have grandchildren her age and it makes me sick at heart.

[@ruthcarter1360]

Sorry to say that this whole family was acting weird, if a kidnapper, stranger, intruder was inside the house, wrote note, took Jonbenet down to basement, what happened first?? Doesn't sound logical!! Shame poor Jonbenet 🧐 Justice please 🙏

[@bonzii420]

Little Burk was A bad boy that night

[@row_sea]

That precious child would be almost 30, now, if not mistaken? I surely hope they can somehow solve it, still, + b4 i die? 😢 👼🕊

[@ziggypop8106]

The part I asked about on the Bardach report video (McGuckin Hardware store calls) is on Patreon 😕 Woe is me. Beaver hair? Paintbrush or Patsy's beaver fur collared jacket? Some shaving brushes have badger hair bristles euch.

[@ziggypop8106]

**Boots with beaver trim, not jacket**

[@jillt1071]

Last night on 20/20 there was a 2 hour jonbenet special. I can't believe it's been so long with no resolution. In your opinion, will we ever have an answer?

[@TCRS]

In my opinion we already have the answer. Or most of them.

[@sophialarkin]

@@TCRS so in your opinion, who did it?

[@TCRS]

Someone from Boulder.

[@sophialarkin]

@@TCRS do you think someone wanted to frame the family or get revenge maybe?

[@lorimiller4301]

Edit.I took out my joke. Without being able to hear the voice/tone i'm speaking in, the joke just isn't funny so I'll spare you. I think she was a Christmas Gift to a Satanist friend of the Family. She was strangled twice, so that means she lived through one episode. Perhaps there was suppose to be a few of these but she died instead ? Once that happened everything changed and the Parents were told to mess things up so the truth wouldn't come out. That's my theory for the most part.

[@o2bastahl204]

I think the triangular mark under her chin was caused by the knot of the cord. The cord was tied in the front of her neck. When it was tightened, from behind, the cord slipped around her neck cause that huge abrasion. You can tell the cord was tightened from behind because it dug in to her neck the most at the front of her neck. With all that hair it would be hard to tie the cord from behind while she was alive.

[@Scorpio200]

Little bitty rope little bitty chord little bitty stick Child's Play gone terribly wrong and the parents are guilty for covering it up in a sense it looks like karma has caught up with all them one thing money can't buy you as a clean soul

[@christinelee2026]

If todays technology hasn't solved this little girls murder than I don't think it will ever be solved.I just hope that whoever did this never has a days peace but I don't think they will because they are too smart and obviously have no conscience

[@MichaelDamianiDigitalArt]

Anybody ever discuss the knots used they seem intricate maybe Navy style ? And Ramsey was in the Navy?

[@jacquiet6040]

Burke was in Boy Scouts.

[@monicshastings8945]

Both John and Burke were in Boy Scouts. Both participated boating which also involvesa knowledge and use of knots and John was in the military also

[@sharonanderson8680]

I think Jonbenet and burke stayed up after parents went to sleep and burke, maybe they had a fight and Burke hit her in the head with something and parents covered it

[@voluntaryismistheanswer]

Could a panicking person, seeing the beginning of death throes (during what was perhaps some childhood game of doctor/'cowboys and indians', the usual scenario back in the day, where children were imprinted by the media into bondage normalisation) gone awry, not have coshed the convulsing person with an object (or against the ground?), to stop the thrashing about? I can't imagine how terrifying that would be, or how hard to think straight in a situation ( especially where no conscious ill intent had existed) and in a split second, someone made a terrible mistake. It's the only thing I can wrap my head around.

[@PhonicsisFunwithMsCassy]

JBR is in a better place, with God's arms wrapped around her. That comforts me:) I do think that the brother probably hit her with a flashlight, not meaning to kill her and Mom and Dad panicked. shameful!

[@jolywinters4957]

The beaver and animal fur did not match any item found in the Ramsey home. The DNA under JonBenet's fingernails matched the DNA on her underwear. DNA will solve this case. A Denver news channel interviewed an investigative reporter last night. Paula Woodward who has followed the case from the beginning. She worked for Denver 9 news before she retired. She said the Boulder PD has never been held accountable for their mistakes and actions. She also spoke about the unfair persecution of the Ramsey family. The 20/20 episode was based on evidence. Also Steve Thomas went on to be a carpenter in the Denver. The reporter who interviewed Linda Arndt said she was shocked by Arndt's statement about John Ramsey and holding her gun close.

[@TCRS]

"DNA will solve the case." >>>Yes, after almost 25 years, it's done a helluva job hasn't it? kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYWainiGi6aDn7M

[@randyleequeen5795]

Linda aren't must be psychic????

[@colonelreb1014]

Imagine being invited on CNN. Steve thomas vs the Ramseys. Then they sue you.

[@beachfly8066]

Duct tape with lip imprint another staged piece of evidence

[@nd612]

What friend of John's goes and rips off duct tape when John was the one that found her? Who takes charge like that?, did John tell him to do so? There is no way these people are from some native tribe in the rain forest and don't know not to do that. They could likely see by the color of her skin and the coldness of her flesh that she was dead but check her pulse anyway if they are going to feel better with some kind of OCD behavior.

[@hallsjuju2400]

John stated he removed the duct tape.

[@christophervaughan2637]

If there was paint brush used in the “garrotte” then surely this could be high on the list of a possible source of the animal hairs on the inside of the duct tape. The killer would have handled the paint brush, to strangle, and the duct tape, to silence and paint brushes often use animal hair for the brush

[@diturner7247]

Were police trained in Forensics procedures?

[@Scorpio200]

What's sad is what she went through befor death and what her body went through after death .. All we can do is hope n pray sister karma pays her brother a visit at some point in this life

[@daneengatlin5786]

I really think the intruder or intruders had staged things to make it look like parents were involved to through police off of who really took her. I think maid was involved and helped plan it with intruders. I think she wrote randsome note and made her handwriting look like Patsy's. She had keys. She knew lay out if house. She needed money and could of known about John's bonus. Why in the hell was there a photo down in the basement by phone of Patsy with Patsy wearing a crown. This is so obvious that someone was trying to frame parents. I think that The suit case wouldn't fit through the widow with her in it.Things got out of hand when they were chocking her. They tazed her and she screamed and one of them hit her in the head. When they thought they had killed her, they just ran out of the house. It was a kidnapping that went wrong and ended in murder.

[@thesilverpen]

I cant see the pic well enough, but from my screen the duct taoe looks more like flashing tape. Which is used on heating ducts etc. 9:52

[@supersonicdevin3212]

How would a kidnapper know where the housekeeper leaves notes for Patsy? Even if he was in the house hiding how would he know where to place a note unless he had seen a note there before, or was told where to place it to be found right away. Why is the note only to Mr Ramsey not both? Did the note writer feel the man was more important to address like females were not as important to him? Why not address both Mr and Mrs Ramsey?

[@nancy2anne]

Investigators found a discarded note that said to Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey.

[@ivonsparks3320]

OMG! the animal hair may be from a standard issue policeman glove...

[@tatianapavel9858]

S.B.T.C. - saved by the cross. Interpretation from comments under a different JB video investigation. She definitely saw her girl dead.

[@jacquiet6040]

What they didn't want cops etc to see they hide in the garage or car. Duct tape, Mind Hunter book, etc. Can you access the garage without going outside?

[@bryanbradley6871]

Great video

[@mrsnapple5827]

Tip: this dude tickles your balls and has a paywall for details

[@AnnieRuler216]

Feels like flashlight and duct tape were wiped, cops Helping?

[@danabyrd2377]

If JonBenet was unconscious...or already dead...no need to duct tape her mouth!!!

[@Thought_Criminal77]

I also wonder what could have left the triangular mark - does anyone have any theories? Is it a burn mark from the cord..?

[@karrie8349]

One or both parents killed their own daughter.🙏…. Burke knows what happened.., but it doesn’t seem to phase him…. Hmmmmm

[@danabyrd2377]

The duct tape is to keep her quiet!!!!

[@jacquelinejacobson6789]

Who will be "man" enough to finally reveal the truth about who murdered Jonbenet? Both father and brother are still alive - so there's a chance

[@donnacribb7825]

True

[@leah_amy]

Enjoying

[@bethroundell8424]

Ah, I remember now the mispronounced/changed word you use at the beginning this is episode was " #55" instead of #35 as typed in the title & I believe it was on the screen as well. You do it again at the end of this video, you announce in the next video #56 ... The #36 is clearly printed on the screen of the video. Do you not have anyone review the accuracy on your videos before sending them out to the public?

[@ziggypop8106]

@Beth Roundell Accent police? Get a hobby Beth, nobody cares.

[@annjohns350]

Ramsey didn't own anything with beaver

[@theposhaquarianyb8899]

I have been wanting to establish a sequence of events that happened that night on 12/25 - 12/26/1996...Feel free to input your thoughts and ideas: Between 12am to 2am JonBenet is heard screaming by neighbor. The scream was abruptly stopped Probably by a hit over the head. Do you think she was being sexually assaulted at this time that caused her to scream? If yes, by whom (Burke or John)? I believe during the autopsy it was noted JB was sexually assaulted multiple times before the murder. At what time do you think Patsey got involved during the night of the murder or do you think something else happened and she was involved from the beginning? Do you think Patsey caught someone (either Burke or John) maybe assaulting her daughter and to cover up she staged the garrote, duct tape and ransom note? I’m interested in hearing everyone’s thoughts.

[@janethardy3208]

No sexual abuse was proven.

[@theposhaquarianyb8899]

@Janet Hardy I don’t think anything has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. This case never went to trial. But I am asking everyone’s thoughts on what they think happened. What do you think happened? Actually the sexual abuse was proven bcos it was noted in JB’s autopsy report. That is proof in it of itself!

[@Biosynchro]

It sounds possible. There is something about the sexual a use that doesn't fit with my perception of either parent. That leaves you-know-who, although you could argue that his age precludes any ideation of sexually abusing JonBenet. OTOH, don't underestimate prepubescent children. We all know that boys are capable of abusing their sisters. But it's not something I would just assume.

[@theposhaquarianyb8899]

@@Biosynchro Agreed

[@anncarlin8767]

@@janethardy3208 Nor was it disproven .

[@lorimiller4301]

Is 1:16 a real picture of Jon Bennet?

[@nyasiia433]

I found you again😂, and it’s a pic from the Lifetime Movie

[@lorimiller4301]

@@nyasiia433 ha ha hello 👋 again

[@lorimiller4301]

@@nyasiia433 those blue hands were a very realistic touch 😳

[@nyasiia433]

@@lorimiller4301 ikr, i think that was a real child they used, its kinda weird

[@lorimiller4301]

@@nyasiia433 I thought they used a doll at some points too ?! Is the picture that's blurred a real girl ? I think it might be the Actress ?

[@Biosynchro]

I had a thought: could the Hi-Tec print be concocted evidence, deliberately created to make it look like there was an intruder?

[@Aisha_Davis]

It was Burke’s boot print. Admitted on Dr Phil.

[@lithiumgirl3991]

What if the Duct tape was applied while she was sleeping ?

[@jacquiet6040]

She ate pineapple.

[@iansteyert3049]

Instead of Garotte, or ligature, let's try another word. How about TOURNIQUET? Hypothetical scenario: Person A hits person B on the head with a heavy, blunt object. There is no outward sign of blood at the injury site, but person B is bleeding from the nose. Person A panics and applies a tourniquet to person B's neck to stop the bleeding and inadvertently kills person B whilst doing so. Is that a possible scenario, at least as likely as any other? I really don't think there was any intent to kill.

[@eleanc]

all of them fell this little girl the guy was young naw he could be older in his 50 is not her stepbrother he had similar face as the serial kiler glases too was from pagin or where they travel too was a sicko and need to be cought

[@heatherwhittaker6169]

NONE OF THE DNA...MATCHED ANY OF THE Ramsay's....full stop.

[@bethroundell8424]

Why do you mispronounce Patsy's name making I sound like you saying Betsy? It is very unnecessary and misleading, I keep wondering who is "Betsy"? Then thing, oh yeah, he means "Patsy"! Having an accent is one thing but that is unfair to distort facts. There was another word badly pronounced earlier in this video.

[@ocheltree1]

Beth Roundell, Good Lord, this guy does this for free and you nitpick. Bet you're a real delight to those around you. Let's discuss your poor sentence construction in your posts, hmmm? Perhaps, your lack of social skill? Maybe we'll get around to discussing how downright rude you are. Are you aware of how much time and energy it takes to produce this FREE video? Of course you don't because you are one of those pitiful people that think ONLY of themselves, and no concern or appreciation for other people and their contributions, as evidenced by your comments. Sad.

[@ziggypop8106]

It's called an accent Beth, not everybody speaks the same way

[@dickmartn]

The son did it and the parents tried to cover it up, pure and simple

[@sky2urth]

Patsy had beaver boots that disappeared, I believe

[@ziggypop8106]

Try Pam Paugh's wardrobe

[@debrak8521]

Ginger Sky Patsy didn't own any beaver boots.

[@ziggypop8106]

Debra K I beg to differ, the boots have been mentioned multiple times in various documents. This is an excerpt from the 'Bonita Papers' 'Clothing' section [[ Patsy had been wearing short black fur boots, and the detectives wondered if these were the boots that the Ramseys were saying they could not locate. The detectives were anxious to locate the fur boots to test for beaver hair.]]

[@debrak8521]

@@ziggypop8106 She may have had fur boots but I doubt they were beaver. Did the detectives find these beaver boots?..

[@ziggypop8106]

@Debra K You 'doubt they were beaver'. Fair enough, I'll stick with official statements, more reliable. Probably taken along with all the other stuff Pam Paugh removed on her evidence swoop