Deep Rock Galactic: Season 4 balance changes in detail

0:00 Intro/input buffer
1:25 Subata rework
4:18 NCTC
7:03 Tranq rounds
7:31 Plasma burster missiles
8:40 Rocket Barrage
9:41 Boomstick reload delay
10:43 Double Barrel
12:18 Fire boomstick vs frozen enemies
13:48 Spinning death
14:29 Snowball
15:24 Carpet Bomber
16:26 Neurotoxin Payload
17:04 Shield Battery Booster
18:06 TEF bugfix
19:26 Broadhead bolts bugfix
19:39 MPA stats screen bugfix, fin
bgm: "Terran theme 3" from Starcraft, "UNATCO Theme" from Deus Ex, "In the Dark" from DOOM 2, and "Aurora Palace" from Rabi-Ribi.

[@LazyMaybe]

As of 6/20, TEF has had its damage boost numbers doubled: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXnYmnugirCKf9U

[@texavon6168]

Is the -50% Cooling rate the SBB Overclock removes stat screen only or dose the gun actually cool slower, if It actually cools slower than normal is that intended or not? Because it's not a listed negative effect other than stat screen.

[@whateew]

Do you have a patreon, or a discord, or something ?

[@LazyMaybe]

@@texavon6168 It does cool slower, yes.

[@NewCrispyChicken]

Hi Lazy, great video! I was wondering what mod(s) do you use to get the damage tracking in its own UI element at 12:40?

[@Pinstar]

The dry, clinical way you delivered the "SpiderWeakpoint_Tank_Ass" line added to the humor of it. Well said.

[@ricecooker7037]

I love coffee stain studios dude

[@clumsygarage1578]

@@ricecooker7037 hate to be that guy, but Coffee stain are just the publisher. Ghost Ship are the dwarvelopers responsible for that.

[@manboy4720]

has ass been shot? true then shoot ass

[@ricecooker7037]

@@clumsygarage1578fair, I should say I love that coffee stain always is a vibe Ghost ship is legendary, it shouldn’t really be said when I’m on a niche video about the specific stats about an update that nobody has even talked about really yet.

[@theone614777]

12:35

[@BenSi10]

The best part of this video is finding out that the Praetorian weak point is called "Tank Ass" internally

[@Metacritical_]

The Best thing about a new season is the guaranteed Upload from you

[@galala1979]

True

[@thebigre123]

Agreed

[@CarbonKnight9]

Fr

[@reverendnon5959]

Sad, because this really is the best thing about this season... Apart from Stingtail's sound design, it's gorgeous!

[@JJ-rp3ny]

idk I liked new enemies more

[@lordcirrhosisofliver]

the double barrel buff is my favorite part of s4 to be honest, It feels good, and it is distinct from Jumbo shells.

[@maridomi8303]

No joke, seeing a weapon or OC that was bad before ACTUALLY get buffed within a somewhat reasonable amount of time is one of the best feelings ever.

[@YTInnerAgntAuto]

DB also has an absurd amount of armour break now, since it fires a whopping 22 pellets. It legit just goes BAM! Everything dead!

[@muramasa870]

I'm having blast with hurricane's new unstable OC! But can't figure out best loadout and tier upgrades for it!

[@primalfeline]

I have a build with Double Barrel and Aggressive Venting on Scout to emulate the Doom Slayer so I was really happy seeing Double Barrel get buffed.

[@maks4285]

The best way I've found to describe Double Barrel's behavior is that it turns your dwarf into a Claymore mine, and the confirmation here that the blast-wave is explosive damage really reinforces that comparison.

[@metalurgent]

This update took pretty much every "this is unusable or outclassed or broken" overclock and turned them into some of my favorites. Plasma burster oc was a pain to use, now its one of the best in the game. double barrel was a broken mess, now its just a better jumbo shells. electrominelets and the pgl's ammo oc problem still need fixed but were on the right track

[@muramasa870]

I wish they buffed drak25 oc's or remade some tier upgrades like they did with subata. I considered s3 subata more viable than drak 25 poopy shooter

[@Chronically_ChiII]

@@muramasa870 They have nerfed it since it came out. Unwarranted, I think.

[@Simon-xi7lb]

supercooling chamber on m1k is still useless tho

[@Chronically_ChiII]

@@Simon-xi7lb Yeah, its focus shot shouldn't take *that* long with supercooling chamber. The 0% movement speed is already a nerf. Or make the T2 faster focus shot mod actually do something significant. Also buff active stability system on m1000, on top of that. idk. Maybe it would give you movement speed after firing a focus shot, people would actually use it then for fast scouts.

[@Simon-xi7lb]

@@Chronically_ChiII well, the other issue is that it nearly halves your ammo for double weak-point focus shot damage, but since it already one-shots grunts with focus shots on haz 4, that extra damage isn't even worth the decreased ammo unless you EXCLUSIVELY shoot dreadnoughts and minibosses... it's an overall massive dps loss per ammo count 99% of the time

[@Urkikk]

Subata's Neuro-Corrosive Toxic Catalyst with Sludgepump, with Explosive Reload OC, it allowed you to stack explosive through heavy armor when the shot adding Neuro-Corrosive Toxic Catalyst stack.

[@p_serdiuk]

It's a bit redundant because the stacks accelerate the bug's death from DoT, but you want to explode them ASAP to not waste ammo. Honestly I haven't yet found a decent build for Explosive Reload that improves upon Automatic Fire, except maybe full accuracy with Blowthrough to use with cryo

[@Urkikk]

@@p_serdiuk I mean, you can shoot Oppressor from the front and stilling stacking both corrosive and explosive, or phase 3 hiveguard in any direction. it just easier to to do without needing to reposition for bigger or tankier armored target. tankier enemies mean you can add more stack, and you want it to also die quick, weaker enemies will mostly die to sludgepump before any meaningful impact from Subata. It allows me to deal with both group and tanky targets at the same time without being picky at the aimming spot.

[@frontrider3240]

Explosive reload is still good, but it got nerfed really heavily in more ways than one.

[@itsrainingcats9968]

@@p_serdiuk I use it with tranquilizer bullets to turn macteras into a complete non issue but it might be overkill.

[@funcat3560]

I've recently figured out how good this combo is in elimination missions. I can kite while dumping DoTs. Very fun, but also a lot to think about at once.

[@Loot_Bugs]

Tysm for grinding this out so quickly. Your work is super valuable and very much appreciated, as always. I honestly feel bad - at this point, you’re kind of carrying this “in depth testing” stone alone in the DRG community. Would you consider making - not necessarily a tutorial video, but maybe a community post, explaining how you get what you do? Do you look at the code, do you chat with some devs, etc? Ofc you have the damage numbers mod and the spawning room, but it seems like it’s gotten more complex than that

[@Casino220]

I'd also love KZbin content just going over the methodology and tools used in general and a more specific in depth section at the end of videos like this one tbh

[@peinin]

​​​@@Casino220totally agree, nowadays all videos with analysis only give you data, because it makes videos shorter, which means more people would watch it. Even the scientific video with analysis would skip the showing of how had the data been calculated, because they care more about views than scientific value of their scientific video. It's so sad...

[@atticlion7648]

As someone who doesn't keep close tabs on DRG anymore I really appreciate these patch balance roundups man.

[@theoreminegaming]

Thermal Exhaust Feedback OC - Increased the damage and heat bonus to compensate for the now properly working scaling The very next day, boom. Another suggestion got added. At least one of the GSG team members must be watching your videos, since so many of your suggested changes and bug fixes from videos have been added in S3 and S4 so far.

[@TheSpeep]

With PB missiles you can now kinda recreate engies Spinning Death for the Breach Cutter. You can aim a bunch of shots at a larger enemy and then swap to your secondary to create a sort of whirlwind of plasma bees on them.

[@leedsin3043]

Thank you as always for uploading one of the most detailed and very informative videos for DRG. We greatly appreciate your content! ROCK AND STONE!

[@captainkeyes9913]

6:20 people may not realize it but having a enemy die and explode from any damage instead of just your and only your damage is a huge win because you wont get blocked out of explosions from team mate or bosco like you would from crispr and collet wave cooker

[@PingachuWarham]

The new Double Barrel is simply beautiful, and the changes to both the Subata and the Hurricane are awesome too

[@STUPIDGUARDIANS]

5:59 here's hoping that becomes an actual taunt some day.

[@Rewdy04]

Because he was born into this world - Eren the Driller

[@SomeGuyWithAFace9]

definitely the most excited about these subata changes, that gun felt really weak compared to the alternatives and i really hate guns where you have to maniacally click the mouse button individually for each shot despite its high firerate, and this solves both of those for me

[@mrtspence]

Terran Theme 3 is always a fantastic choice. Great video and really looking forward to getting into some matches with these new changes!

[@karmascamera5275]

When using the Subata’s *Chain Hit* OC combined with NCTC, the ricochets also apply the status effect so you can potentially set off Glyphid cluster-bombs!

[@doug2555]

Loving the subata buffs. Never was a big fan of EPC because its projectile and wave cooker is fun but very dependent on usually what primary you run. Now subata is pretty consitant but can still helps synergize with your primaries

[@darthplagueis13]

Wouldn't say Wave Cooker is that primary dependent. You run exothermic reactor for the CRISPR and the Cryo Cannon, and Contagion Transmitter for the Sludge Pump.

[@bugjams]

I don't like the Tier 5 changes. Now your T5 choice is pigeonholed into your primary choice. It's not fun or good for build diversity. For example, if you're running the Sludge Pump, there's literally no reason to pick anything other than NCC. Flamethrower? No reason not to take Volatile Bullets (although this was always a problem). I'm not a fan of weapon upgrades that rely heavily on you picking another specific gun. I'd rather they turn Volatile Bullets and NCC into Overclocks, give the Subata back it's +2 corrosive damage T5, and buff Blowthrough, because blowthrough sucks on the Subata. I mean seriously lol, anyone picking Blowthrough (unless you're running Cryo) is gimping themselves. It's a multi-hit focused upgrade on a class who has the strongest AoE primaries in the game. It's just not worth it. They could buff the blowthrough amount to 3 and give it a +1 damage buff and it would still be an iffy pick.

[@semagicus693]

​@@shaunhayes3072yes, as opposed to the old one, where neurotoxin worked just fine with the flamethrower. In fact, i always took neurotoxin with the flamer, because why the hell would i want to shoot subata at targets within flamer range if i can, you know, shoot the flamer at them.

[@atpsoldat6108]

Mate, you’re the soft-spoken Uncle Dane of the Deep Rock Galactic community. Your videos are always top-notched quality.

[@johncronk8867]

Man, he is. Wonder if he mains Engi.

[@samfish2550]

I love the direction of the subata as a sort of driller combo weapon.

[@Appletank8]

my only concern is that the Microwave is also pretty good at comboing, and wondering how they are distinct from each other.

[@samfish2550]

@@Appletank8 well from what I can tell they fill in different parts of being a combo weapon, with the microwave giving set-up to improve the primary weapons while the sabata can use its tier 4 mods to act as a finisher after the primary weapons apply their primary status effect. Plus it is more of a versatile combo tool in the sense that it has no inate element wich means you don't have to worry about thawing bugs on the cryo.

[@Appletank8]

​@@samfish2550 Sounds sick.

[@kriskringle1948]

You make the best DRG content on the internet! Thank you for all of your hard work!

[@douglasmarcus840]

Thank you. I appreciate the time and effort that goes into making these. Rock and Stone!

[@Vanguard7274]

Thanks for all the work you put into these! It’s really helpful to have someone who knows how these mechanics work and interact with each other helping to keep everyone up to date!!

[@Mad_Profundis]

Thanks for your work, it's always interesting to see the changes in detail and with examples

[@MrH2O1998]

These balance recap videos are so digestible. Thank you as always for making em.

[@mikhailgsg120]

On point as always! And thank you for taking the time and effort to make these videos. Rock and Stone!

[@DeaMeD0]

Love ur detailed videos man !!! excelent work

[@andrewschultz7499]

An amazing in depth overview as always!

[@666stonewall]

Thanks for the work you put into it!

[@cd8086]

Appreciate the detailed analysis of every change man, you’re really the only person doing it like this 💯

[@nixxx62]

These videos are sick, hope you keep making more!

[@sniss]

lovely video as always :)

[@mangoxmochi3205]

One of the best parts of a new major update are your videos :D Thank you!

[@lukekis00]

Love your videos. Really glad you're still actually posting something.

[@xxevildoctorxx2162]

Always love your content

[@benemenhall4215]

So nice to see u upload

[@chastermief839]

thanks for another comprehensive guide! your crunching is appreciated.

[@Ninjaguiden89]

That was very helpful for getting into the new season! Also, never seen your channel before but this detailed video and your choice of the UNATCO theme made sure I will subscribe haha!

[@tulsatrash]

Thank you very much for going over the weapon changes for the start of season 4.

[@llmkursk8254]

Thanks for all the number crunching!

[@splitsentro]

Thank you for your hard work!

[@WhosUrTrinidaddy]

thanks Lazy, good job on putting this one together c:

[@MrRailden]

You're the best! Thank you for such a detailed video again, can't wait to try out the buffs to my beloved Subata :)

[@GuyGallium]

incredible video as always, thanks for your effort getting it out!

[@OTOss8]

What a great video. This is exactly what I was looking for. Cheers friend!

[@aleksandrkerenski4229]

Thanks for the crunchiness. Keep up the good work. Rock and Stone!

[@KittyNaptune]

Thanks for the breakdown, these vids are a treasure :D

[@qwimpy1247]

I've had my space rig music modded to the UNATCO theme for ages, and when it came up in the video i thought my game was somehow open by itself. Thanks for that, and the explanation of NCTC for that matter.

[@EduardoSevero]

thanks for crunching those numbers big bro ❤

[@thiefswipe]

Thank you for making this! This is super helpful information to have.

[@mrguy1855]

Thanks a lot as always, appreciate your hard work and excellent presentation :)

[@videonmode8649]

Thank you for taking the time to getting this out 🙏

[@Lightblinder]

thanks for the hard work, much appreciated 👍

[@gentleusurper4778]

Thanks for your videos. I enjoy them.

[@Appletank8]

Thank you mr Lazy, this is very appreciated.

[@potyagushki]

thank you very much for your tremendous work, love your videos and you very much

[@Strangest_Letter]

Thank you as always for the breakdown.

[@t-virus7098]

Thanks for the video man, I really appreciate it

[@callmemarcy77]

you're really the hero we all needed, love your videos!

[@zeroairblade]

These videos are so good!!! Keep it coming Lazy!

[@NP7_16]

Thank You Lazy, we appreciate Your videos.

[@adamantiumman]

Great comprehensive update video, thank you very much!

[@thcfck6870]

this is a great video, I am thankful for youtube recommandations for once, you've earned a sub :)

[@lockehart7716]

Great breakdown as always

[@agent5657]

Always love to see another video from the lazyguyman

[@rossmarshall566]

I love this video. Great work!

[@collyqually6486]

DRG patch numbers make my brain go :D Thanks for always putting in the effort for us! Rock and stone! ⛏️

[@WuxianTec]

Thank you again for making the patch notes tangible for us. It's always nice to see what actually changes in the game for some builds, love it! Gonna have a lot of fun especially with the Subata Neurotoxin and the Double Double Barrel Boomstick.

[@wulfski]

It's always a blessed day when LazyMaybe drops a video. Keep up the good work, my dude.

[@willdasch]

i was waiting for this video ty

[@caolanmoore4027]

Love these videos, there so incredibly useful

[@SIRT0PPUMHAT]

Aside from your explanation which is excellent, mega props for setting this to Terran theme soundtrack! The nostalgia boost fits right in with the DRG world.

[@DizzyRaven]

Thanks bro, love your content!

[@user-lm8ud4gl3g]

Very nice video. I was waiting for this one

[@nicolepanacho7128]

you got this one out fast, even if you got early access this output speed is much appreciated good sir

[@nosidenoside2458]

The praetorian behind weak point being named "tank ass" is just so funny to me

[@sabinadodge1390]

tbh

[@andrewandersson]

was waiting for this, good stuff

[@thejustanoob4926]

Thank you LazyMaybe, I did enjoy the video

[@TheGamerUnknown]

I've been waiting for this video!!!

[@Psykode1986]

Thanks for the breakdown!

[@SamothIorio]

Great video! Much more clear than long text descriptions and some other videos I've seen going around. Would you consider doing a video explaining Elemental Resistance at some point? Very few of us use it, but ever since we got Rockpox, and now with the new acid spitters, I'm wondering if has become any more useful

[@aquietdragon5671]

not even a week later and we have the update breakdown my brittle brain needs to really parse the weapon changes you are doing karl's work, thank you so much

[@IMMACHARGINMYLAZOR]

literally pulled up my builds to fix em up with your observations thank you

[@spiffy1209]

thank you so much for this video, i love these

[@TechNinjaSigma]

I've been waiting for this one! Season 4 let's Rock!

[@HavinABadTrip]

I love the videos, thanks!

[@Alphahye]

thanks for the upload, very informative

[@Meeryx4]

As a Gunner main who had Manual Guidance cutoff previously and got rocket barrage free. It's _so_ incredibly fun. It's place in the primaries is dubious as it fills the same role I feel as your typical mini gun. But instead of overheating it reloads. I personally find playing with it very enjoyable. It's not a top tier game breaking Overclock but damn. It's just so fun to use.

[@alvarotavares1966]

Amazing video, thank you sir.

[@MasterMegaManX]

Music selection on point as always.

[@DespicableDemon]

Thanks for the breakdown, definitely gave me more incentive to check out some of these OC's I've been ignoring.

[@glyphidbulkdetonator]

Sweet video! I still have a couple of questions, though, such as Chain Hit + Blowthrough having the same weird interaction as the Bulldog of splitting the bullet in two, or how Burst Mode and Full Auto interact at all... that's horrifying to think about.

[@letrouble5746]

Good job my dude, the best part of DRG content updates is that we get one of your videos.

[@YanoD.9615]

thx man great as always

[@kuzidas4213]

You’re an absolute house when it comes to easy to access information concerning DRG mechanics. Thank you for your content!

[@Kywu]

i like the starcraft ost, also cool profile picture, you've got good taste fella

[@literatemax]

Nice choice of music. I also love the little editing jokes like at 5:59 😁

[@Legless_Amphibian]

Video is much appreciated