"this is the only cpu i had which wasn't delidded" is such a uniquely derbauer issue to have
@AugmentedGravityАй бұрын
Certified derbauer moment
@Hagop64Ай бұрын
The Peerless Assassin is the old model, the Phantom Spirit with 7 heat pipes has been out for 2+ years now and is the same price.
@jashuacloutdog3918Ай бұрын
This comment saved me. I speckled the old one for my kids pc when I intended the phantom spirit. I was able to cancel and reorder in time thanks to your comment
@v0ldy54Ай бұрын
Thermalright lineup is confusing af, they should make a big cleanup
@smalleАй бұрын
@@v0ldy54 they really should. Especially since the phantom spirit only makes them look better as a company since it’s such a nice looking cooler for the money. The Peerless Assassin just won’t die due to all the high praise on KZbin over the years.
@krazyfrogАй бұрын
They launched three more models in the time you read this comment.
@RinoAPАй бұрын
no one talking about Phantom Spirit EVO? It's this year model and has been no stock in my country in long time
@techluvin7691Ай бұрын
Thermalright is a major player that these expensive coolers cannot compete with.
@pandora1037Ай бұрын
That's why those reviews don't use Phantom Spirit 120 SE, which is the best cooler they have at the moment
@MrBalrogosАй бұрын
@@pandora1037have no clue
@labmasterx5599Ай бұрын
You forgot the thermal right phantom spirit 120 evo ^^
@FEARmeifyАй бұрын
@@labmasterx5599 If you look at the reviews, the SE is better. It has basically the same temperatures and lower noise.
@Cynic_6489Ай бұрын
yep. very satisfied with how my PA120 Mini cools my 5700X
@Sion-dq6xoАй бұрын
With the NHD15 I think you can mount the fan on the back as well, improving memory compatability
@oftankoftanАй бұрын
you can. it's incredibly intuitive. I'm surprised he missed that.
@sleepy_dobeАй бұрын
Did you test the temps and noise level before and after mounting the front fan at the back of the cooler? Any difference?
@Sion-dq6xoАй бұрын
@ I haven't been using an nhd15 for a while (I was used the first gen one). Typically pulling air is less efficient I think but not by much. Usually the nhd15 is very quiet an very performant no matter what you do.
@nazgulsenpaiАй бұрын
Same with the Thermalrite Assassin I paid $40 for on Amazon.
@jonhall3688Ай бұрын
I have a D15S (which comes with one fan only by default) and mounted two others myself. Another 14cm fan from a U14S (higher rpm ceiling) and an F12 at the back. The net result is that the fans run at a lower rpm average overall because there are 3 of them now, so the peak noise is less. The noise floor is probably a decibel or two higher but it was already below the audible noise background in my pc room (33 dB or so) - so I don't notice it. This doesn't really help people looking to move the fan to the back for memory compatibility - but it's the closest comparison I have, apologies.
@AzithromYАй бұрын
I am extremely surprised Endorfy made into derbauer video. Till now I have known them as absolute underdog of coolers from Polish producent only on polish market. Good to know Endorfy is recognized and appreciated outside of Poland!
@AgentLeonАй бұрын
It's a bober of coolers!
@timiko4Ай бұрын
sadly their prices are often just bad and loosing much vs Arctic or Thermalright in terms of value Quality control also was quite bad and unit by unit they had huge variance on how well heatpipes contact coldplate or how pipes contact IHS if it's direct contact design. Maybe they changed OEM for 5 series, but seeing it's stil extremely sharp - i don't think so
@SloweR_Official5 күн бұрын
@@timiko4 we don't use OEMs. We create project in Poland and we send this to China manufacture. Spartan 5, Fera 5, Fortis 5 and Navis F is ours coolers, designed in Poland. So please don't say untrue information about Endorfy, we spend houndrets hours on projects to make it best.
@superior96Ай бұрын
Seems like you can already buy the Deepcool vapor chamber in Spain for 115€ in a couple stores "on sale". Meanwhile NH-D15 G2 is 150€ everywhere. Seems like a no brainer (though I'd still go for thermalright myself since I don't need higher performance). Arctic Freezer III 360 can be had for 90€ too, 240mm for 64, which I wonder how do they compare.
@jepulis6674Ай бұрын
I would compare it to sub 20€ Freezer 36. If under 10C difference, these expensive coolers should just vanish out of the market.
@h1tzzYTАй бұрын
any competent 360mm AIO destroys nhd15 g2 and assuming you mount them as exhaust they reduce gpu temps as well, unlike any air cooler
@SzabingerАй бұрын
@@h1tzzYT I'm pretty sure the Phantom Spirit 120 would beat most of the fancy 360 AIOs.
@h1tzzYTАй бұрын
@@Szabinger no air cooler on the market is capable doing that...
@SzabingerАй бұрын
@@h1tzzYT Hmm maybe I'll have to test it myself.
@f688xt6Ай бұрын
I miss DeepCool. I still have a couple of their less expensive coolers from a while back before they were banned. I hope they get back to the US market at some point.
@MrAnbrosАй бұрын
The timing of this couldn't be any better for me.
@Godmode_ON24Ай бұрын
Cool, I'll still take a thermalright (phantom spirit or peerless assassin) for less than a third of the price of the Noctua and Deepcool ones.
@Rose.Of.HizakiАй бұрын
Thermalright master race 🤘😎🤘
@SzabingerАй бұрын
I replaced my Arctic LF III 240 with a Phantom Spirit 120 SE, and I'm so happy with it. This cooler is completely silent while destroying any AIO.
@masterkamen371Ай бұрын
Or a $20 Arctic Freezer 36. Keeps my Ryzen 5 5600X at 15 to 20°C above room temperature while it's pulling 70W.
@Godmode_ON24Ай бұрын
@@masterkamen371 True, that's a great one too. I feel like those two options are good for any CPU depending on the wattage. Anything costlier is overkill (or only has better looks) and anything cheaper, you might as well keep the included cooler.
@jaxbadeАй бұрын
@@Szabinger What kind of CPU are you using? Low thermal package, I'd expect, if you were using a LF3 240? 🤔
@DaBombDiggidy88Ай бұрын
Got a deepcool iv before they were banned in the US and I really love the thing. You're getting about as close to a Noctua as you can get but it looks so much better for aesthetics.
@1sonyzzАй бұрын
Good for US people that it got banned, they can get that ''you can't get it'' feel when US youtubers show a laptop for good price and specs but, people outside US cannot get it... Nice that it's not available in US
@rawdez_Ай бұрын
@@1sonyzz yes, russkie's war against Ukraine supporting company is banned in the us. its great
@rawdez_Ай бұрын
@@1sonyzz the bad thing is EU citizens still buying products from company that supports ruskies war against, basically, EU
@masterkamen371Ай бұрын
@@rawdez_Oh no! Anyways...
@jepulis6674Ай бұрын
@@rawdez_ Buy stuff linked to China, you support that war.
@QuetteshАй бұрын
Noctua is also using those metal springs. I hate custom fan mounts, it might be difficult to mount different fans.
@fajaradi1223Ай бұрын
It's not a problem that a deliberate duct tape can't solve
@Saji_0Ай бұрын
@@fajaradi1223 Ahh yes, every problem can be fixed with duct tape
@compwiz00Ай бұрын
@@Saji_0 Cable ties work pretty good for fans
@Morpheus-pt3wq19 күн бұрын
It´s possible to mount square fans with Noctua fan clips. Not ideal, but possible.
@ChairmanMeow1Ай бұрын
I compare all air coolers to Thermalrights stuff tbh. The Assassin line is so good, and such good value, I really don't even think about other brands tbh.
@KAL-589Ай бұрын
Is the centre fan still proprietary on the Deepcool? That was a dealbreaker with the original Assassin 4.
@408civettethreatАй бұрын
Once again your review knocked it out the park (baseball term) Thanks for taking your time to create such great content over and over ❤ 🍻
@bingbong4745Ай бұрын
I was not expecting an air-cooler shootout! Love the no nonsense you portray in your videos. Must be a German thing 🤣So much info packed into this one. Thanks!
@AG-jj3lxАй бұрын
Great rundown on the various cooler options.
@St0RM33Ай бұрын
You should have tested the NH-D15 as well to see how much difference it has now
@Accuaro14 күн бұрын
I HATE the steel wire spring mounting mechanism. Thank you for pointing that out.
@honestaussie5064Ай бұрын
That fan height adjustment mechanism is very nice.
@davidepannone6021Ай бұрын
How the peerless assassin still 40 euro baffles me lol. You'd imagine they would increase the price by about 50% at least by now but nope.exe
@dzelloАй бұрын
For the same reason you're talking about it. By being well below the reasonable price, they stand out significantly more and sell significantly more.
@jevc900423Ай бұрын
Waiting for royal preytor and the other "high end" model suposed to top previous king - Phantom Spirit. Have not seen any review, hope hardware canucks makes a new round up of top dogs + thermalright OP coolers.
@v0ldy54Ай бұрын
Gives a perspective on how overpriced other brands are...
@spaghettilocomotiveАй бұрын
This video reminded me to have a look at local pricing for the pa120se, and I ended up ordering one tonight to replace the little Noctua cooler in my nas. NH-U9B iirc.
@masterkamen371Ай бұрын
It's aluminium strips mounted on hollow copper pipes. With some plastic fans on the sides. There is nothing on these that carries considerable cost, other than perhaps the design. When you ship millions of these coolers, it turns into pennies.
@sky173Ай бұрын
I still have my 5 year old Noctua D15 for my 9800x3D. Works like a charm.
@hellsoul0Ай бұрын
did noctua send a free am5 bracket ?
@adi6293Ай бұрын
@@hellsoul0They always do if you have a receipt
@zigziarАй бұрын
Yup, my 9800X3D and offset bracket are coming this Saturday for my trusty old NH-D15
@sky173Ай бұрын
@@hellsoul0 They did. I just upgraded to the 9800x3D, sent a copy of my receipt, and within a few days the brackets arrived. They wont fit my my motherboard. The cooler would hit the GPU. The mounting kit that came in the box works perfectly fine.
@sarpp69Ай бұрын
Bro its just a piece of metal why would it malfunction.
@Appalling68Ай бұрын
Excellent review, son. Thank you very much for the hard work. Well done!
@JETWTFАй бұрын
I have a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 and no complaints at all. Comparable to it's peers at an amazing price when I bought it. Not the best or worst at cooling for a dual tower dual 120mm fan cooler but it was the best price A tad long in the tooth now and it will be a couple years more before I build a new rig so I expect there is or will be better for the same price.
@pankothompson5903Ай бұрын
Noctua is so expensive it is almost getting into ProSiphon Elite territory
@N3v3r_S3ttl3Ай бұрын
They're expensive. However, if we ignore the cooling performance, they're quite and quality build is great. Also you pay a bit for their after sale, you can ask them for new mountings for new CPUs generations if you still have the receipt of the cooler.
@hameedАй бұрын
Noctua has lost the plot. Their price and brownness used to be tolerable because they were that good. But the competition is way too strong now for them right now
@derekschommer1465Ай бұрын
@@hameedthat's kinda like saying why buy an audi when the jetta exists
@masterkamen371Ай бұрын
@@N3v3r_S3ttl3when is fan noise even a factor? I have all Arctic fans in my rig and all I can hear is the wind noise from them, but even that is irrelevant when the HDD is five times louder.
@hameedАй бұрын
@@masterkamen371 Fan noise is a factor for a lot of people. I keep my build around ~25dba, I dont want it to hear a sound from it when it's idle That said, noctua *barely* has a noise advantage at this point. They barely have ANY advantages.
@RavTokomiАй бұрын
I imagine the Assassin VC would be quite a bit cheaper without the screen gimmick. Hope they release a basic version too.
@Kneedragon1962Ай бұрын
Question : You are testing open air, not a closed case, and your motherboards are laying flat ~ which they generally don't in a finished case. I think the effects of this on the Noctua with heat-pipes would be fairly small but the vapour-chamber rig, I'm not so sure about. Not saying it doesn't work or it's no good ~ I'm saying you mileage may vary. Also might say, an open air test bench like what you have there, in a climate controlled room ~ that is a really best-case test for an air cooler. It doesn't get any more positive for an air cooler than that. And before anyone asks, I am not a liquid cooling fan. I do intend to buy an NH-D15 G2 to go in my 9950X rig which Santa is due to give me in late December ~ That's the middle of heat-wave summer here in Australia. Hence my interest in your test.
@WoTpro9 күн бұрын
I love the noctua colors, it stands out, and you just know when you see it that you are dealing with quality
@TriPBOOMERАй бұрын
I'm a little confused... If 'Polar Therm' is Thermal Grizzly's new budget paste but out performs their premium paste... what is the point in the premium paste or any of the skue's in between.
@vvb890Ай бұрын
The difference is the performance of the higher end paste at SUB ZERO
@jordan-mn6yyАй бұрын
@@vvb890 or performance at tropical humidity. i'd imagine paste oozing out on its own where its 90% humidity all the time
@lovie74Ай бұрын
I would say I love the noctua ones for one reason and that's because for me they have the leash amount of coil whine which can't really be observed through graphs for noise tests. I've listened to many tests for just case fans and the noctua fans also for me have no coil whine or the most bearable one at high rpms if it ever gets there.
@Dew4lkАй бұрын
Deepcool definitely looks the best, and you can go for whatever ram you'd like. But i would always go for a version without the screen, dont want unnecessary software bloat on my system.
@rawdez_Ай бұрын
plus Deepcool support ruskies war against Ukraine and the West /
@ebrahimsalman2152Ай бұрын
should have tested phantom spirit with 7 heatpipes or ps evo with better fans
@Flapdr01Ай бұрын
Did you try the noctua fans on the deepcool?
@der8auer-enАй бұрын
wouldn't fit unfortunately
@Flapdr01Ай бұрын
@@der8auer-en that's too bad
@saintthe7thАй бұрын
Where there is will, there is a way @der8auer-en
@MaFTBАй бұрын
@@Flapdr01Yeah, sadly. The noctua fans are held in with wire clips that slot into the heat fins on the cooler and hook onto them. The deepcool is completely flat, so it wouldn't hook on
@LedNe0nDevilАй бұрын
Waiting to get the Cooler Master new v8 GT , and I don't even have a platform to mount it to, just want it. Please test it when it comes out next year!
@alkestosАй бұрын
More air coolers should move to vapor chamber imo.
@ThisIsMeArnoldАй бұрын
They will
@taraskulykUSAАй бұрын
I wouldn't take one for free. It's blood money I don't care how good their coolers are or how inexpensive they are. Shame on them
@ThisIsMeArnoldАй бұрын
@@taraskulykUSA Do you hate vapor chambers or something?
@X_irtzАй бұрын
@@ThisIsMeArnold He is referring to Deepcool selling their products to Russia, which then resulted in Deepcool getting a sales ban in US.
@horizon3603Ай бұрын
@@taraskulykUSA🤡
@ubacow7109Ай бұрын
I'm glad that vapor chamber tech is back on the market, we just need one for SFF builds tho
@LordOfNihilАй бұрын
still using the nh-c14s. though i had to do an offset kludge to get it to fit, good thing their free adapter kits come with extra brackets i can take a drill press to and fall back on the spare set if i ever need to use it for something else. if only other cooler manufacturers will go as far as noctua does at future proofing their products.
@4zimsАй бұрын
I am a big fan of Thermalright products.
@covante4822Ай бұрын
I like the brown and bare metal design. I even have matching noctua custom sleeved cables and keycaps. Another good option like that endorfy is the deepcool ak500, fat single tower single fan model with an asymmetrical design to give it full memory compatibility. Shouldn't have the sharp edges either.
@robertmoore119Ай бұрын
I like that Deepcool Unit and the appearance. I also like the Noctua, primarily because of its performance. As far as the appearance, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to have some more "neutral" colors like black. However, Noctua is known for the color, everyone immediately recognizes Noctua that way. However, they also have their name.
@jgorresАй бұрын
I would love to see the same comparison with an Intel 13/14-900K since they put out more heat!
@sunni_11Ай бұрын
I'm curious, since, from what I heard, the majority of Noctua's jump in performance with their G2 was based around their newer fan design; tighter tolerances in fan blades to frame, better design, etc -- I wonder how the Deep Cool Vapor Chamber cooler would fare with the Noctua fans attached. I know Noctua made some advances with their cooler itself in the form of the additional heat pipe and a denser fin array, but I think a good portion of their progress was fan based. If the DeepCool VC was able to dissipate a larger heat load, but wasn't doing it efficiently and required a louder fan to keep up, I bet with Noctua's G2 fans, it could maybe inch out the NHD15 G2. Would be cool to see. Cool video!
@LuchingadorАй бұрын
i would love to see a tower cooler that can be mounted in the vertical orientation. i have a chimney style case, fans move air bottom to top, with a vertical GPU, where the tower cooler is the only one not cooperating
@oldewolfe6968Ай бұрын
I have their AK500... Have had that since I got the 5800X3D and am currently Running it on my 7800X3D.... I get more Noise outta the Montech Case Fans and the 4080 Super than I do the CPU Fan... Kinda wish they had an Add On Cover Plate for the Cooler with a Screen, but I was looking at Simple and keeping the RGB to a Minimum, who knew they'd be going LED Screens shortly afterward...
@muntebogdan1179Ай бұрын
As far as I've tested, the arctic esports 34 duo is 1 of the best coolers for its price. It looks nice, it comes in multiple colors, it keeps most of the cpus pretty cool and you can usually find it at around 40-$50$. Another big bonus is that it's not too big, so it's not so hard to still work/clean inside the pc if needed. I don't recommend it for the hotests cpus. (it works just fine for a 7800x3d, but for a 14900k I would totally not recommend).
@Ragnaraz690Ай бұрын
Oh dude... you should totally try the 3rd fan on the VC Vision. Makes me wonder if that added airflow could boost quieter performance as well as top end. It would be interesting to see.
@N0N0111Ай бұрын
MID week upload, OMG yes!
@radugrigorasАй бұрын
I wonder how the deepcool would have done with the offset mounting as well.
@rreacherrАй бұрын
Great video, would be good if you could include clockspeed in the results and noise normalized tests as well.
@hbjigccАй бұрын
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, same price as Silentware Titan but 7 heatpipes.
@NzStumpyTechАй бұрын
would have liked to see the be quiet Dark Rock Elite in the line up. but very interesting video.
@jonathanellis6097Ай бұрын
I like the brown and the industrial looks of the noctua, the price is harder to stomach. They do need to improve the fan clips and use something a bit more premium and easy to use, especially considering the price.
@VeritronXАй бұрын
would love to see how deepcool's LT520 does in the same test on AM5
@fullmetaflakАй бұрын
I would've loved to see how well these air tower coolers compare to even a basic AIO
@delatroyАй бұрын
Upgrading to AM5 and going to reuse D14 using new bracket. Noctua rocks
@LordOfNihilАй бұрын
no other manufacturer will give you a free adapter kit for a cpu that wasnt even out yet as of your purchase.
@delatroyАй бұрын
@ yes it’s amazing. They shipped it already. Saved €80. Will always buy noctua just because of this.
@_PITBOYАй бұрын
Not to add work, but would have loved to see the Noctua NH-D15 V.1 added to the list for comparison. Then swap the V.1 and V2 fans to see how much of a temp bonus you get with the V.2 cooler only. Beyond that, aesthetic wise, keep in mind that Noctua will ... eventually ... release a black version of this cooler and fans, the V.1 did and looks cool in my rig. As well even though its an additional purchase, Noctua does sell tower covers that clip on both NH=D15 towers and looks good. It would be nice to see them included, but thats the Noctua tax.
@emilemil1Ай бұрын
I would love a quick sound profile test. Some coolers are technically quiet in dB but have annoying motor, bearing or harmonic noises.
@PainterVieraxАй бұрын
dBa is supposed to counter balance the ears behaviors but I agree that many testers should be way more careful about noise tests as annoyance is very relative to the sound produced and its intermittent pattern.
@bacphan7582Ай бұрын
How about Thermalright killer ?
@brandonupchurch7628Ай бұрын
At least in North America nothing beats the price to performance of the Thermalright Phantom Spirit the regular version with the heatpipes covered and all metal mount hardware, always around $35 on Amazon. I don't see where any of these more expensive air coolers really performs better enough to justify their price and why you should buy them over a cheap AIO that'll keep high wattage CPUs out of the thermal throttle zone.
@techluvin7691Ай бұрын
There won’t be one because nobody can compete on price.
@JBrinx18Ай бұрын
It'd have to be a Thermalright AIO killer too
@Ironclad17Ай бұрын
That US ban still in place?
@JazekFTWАй бұрын
I wish deepcool would release this assassin for STRx4 and SP3 sockets… would be a beast for the threadripper platform
@davvehallbergАй бұрын
I like the Deepcool one the best, it looks like a modern aircooler for those of us that want the modern look but still prefer the stability of aircooling!!
@ThePCExpertAmateurАй бұрын
Why is your Peaktherm showing such a wild variance in the room temp?? Is it not isolated from the wind from your bench and other sources? It's a shame that you didn't use the Phantom Spirit Evo instead.
@rulik007Ай бұрын
Cooler Master anounced V8 3DVC (vapor chamber) year ago but did not released yet
@Punisher9419Ай бұрын
I'm interested in the Peerless Assasin 140 when that comes out in the UK.
@tyr8338Ай бұрын
I bought a 2 fan tower cooler from Enodrfy like 9 years ago (they were called SPC back then). I used this cooler on 4 cpus so far, starting with i7-4770k then ryzen 3600, after that ryzen 5600x and now ryzen 5800x3d, still works without issue xD. They even provided new bracket for am4 for free when I needed it. I also have a great mouse from them, lix plus wireless.
@cyntist4120Ай бұрын
This shows my lack of understanding on vapor chambers: does the orientation of the vapor chamber matter?
@LordOfNihilАй бұрын
i dont think so. its like putting a dry sponge in a spill, even though the top of the sponge is out of the liquid it will wick it up and get wet. the capilary action forces are greater than gravity.
@ArunehАй бұрын
I build a new pc like every 4-5 years, and don't really touch it after building, other than cleaning dust out. In that case, a slightly annoying fan mounting is no big deal. I also don't use windows, so the looks don't matter at all. I have a Noctua in my current PC, but if I were to build a new one now, I would likely go for Thermalright. My old Q6600 had a thermalright, and that worked very well also.
@kettusnuhveliАй бұрын
I personally think that the chromax black Noctua coolers with their heat pipes poking out look way better than any of those plastic covers or screens, hope they will never cover them up!
@gooseuk198525 күн бұрын
Wish i could find this in the UK. No one seems to have it yet
@jamesm568Ай бұрын
I would use both depending on the type of build. I get outstanding better support and updated parts from Noctua.
@DeceniumАй бұрын
for the Noctua, I would just 3D print a top plate, and I love the brown and beige, its just iconic, you know you got a quality item when you see those colours.
@LordOfNihilАй бұрын
i generally dont like nonfunctional plastic mouldings anyway because they hog space. the best solutions usually aren't the prettiest. the datacenter market in a nutshell. very high performance parts that look like computer parts from the 90s/00s and not some sci-fi monstrosity like you see on the consumer offerings.
@MeguREDАй бұрын
Put brown fans into a case with dark tinted TG panel and run purple RGB colour, no more brown.
@aliensounddigital8729Ай бұрын
I would love it if fan clips could be easier too install in tight quarters. It's a real finger killer with the NH-D15s. Would love if Noctua could upgrade to sliding coolers. The sooner we can get away from fan clips the better. The prices charged for Noctua coolers, you would think it would be a thing already.
@JasonMendoza-hd3ceАй бұрын
ambient temperature rise doesn't cause a linear rise in cpu temps, just deducting the difference is better than nothing but it's not perfect. one degree ambient difference can cause a 1.5 degree change in cpu temp
@jamesb.walker9177Ай бұрын
I would have been very nice to be able to hear de FAN Picth on the coolers...
@chrisbullock6477Ай бұрын
I'd be interested in the 3D-V Cache version. I have the 7950X-3D and knowing there's lower wattage it would be nice to see if a Liquid Cooled AIO is necessary.
@Plagues138Ай бұрын
Looks cool.... But man, I really wish the screen had more data it could pull. Gpu temps etc
@jordan-mn6yyАй бұрын
these coolers look too heavy for vertical setup. are they not gunna damage the vertical motherboard?
@crion88Ай бұрын
I would like to add that the new G2 Noctua fans are great, and I just bought a complete G2 set for my computer and threadripper cpu cooler. Sometimes I wonder if the computer is on and the screen turns on when I move the mouse. :)
@labmasterx5599Ай бұрын
What cooling system do you have for the CPU/GPU? Also can you hear them when on peak work usage?
@dylanmonahan5909Ай бұрын
The G2 fans use a tuned pair (Fan A, Fan B) that helps to eliminate resonances and tunes out some higher pitched whining when being slammed. Fans like this on some of the other twi tower coolers would probably narrow the gap... and still be a decent value proposition.
@gagarin777Ай бұрын
@@labmasterx5599 He is BS-ing. Do not use air cooling on high wattage cpu's no matter the brand if you value to have silent PC. I have 5950X with NH-D15S (with dual fans) in Fractal Meshify 2 XL and it's quite loud. I can hear it even when cpu is idle. Der8auer in the video measured 45dB for the cpu running at 75C (that is already loud). You can adjust the fan speed curvature, but then temperature will creep up and at some point fan will have to increase the speed anyway. If you want to have quiet system build custom LC or buy really big AIO. Or put the computer in another room. If you have computer displayed on the top of your desk it will be perceived louder then if you had it under the desk.
@RobstafarianАй бұрын
@@gagarin777 If we assume that Noctua's NSPR scales linearly, then your NH-D15S has a TDP of about 197W compared to your CPU's TDP of 105W. By comparison, my BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4's TPD is 250W compared to my 3700X's TDP of 65W; my CPU's fans are rarely audible, thanks to this ratio, with the stock fans (I have not added the optional third fan.). Did you compare the TDP of your heatsink options prior to buying your Noctua? To be clear, I do not mean to compare brands or designs.
@gagarin777Ай бұрын
@@Robstafarian I don't know how you came up with those numbers, but probably you made some mistake. My D15S should have the same NSPR as regular D15 since I'm using two fans on it. "S" has exactly the same heatsink as "non-S", just slanted on the heatpipes. Noctua is using NSPR rating for entire cooler (radiator + fans) so normal "S" has lower NSPR listed as compared to "non-S" just because they cheapened out on it by selling it with 1 fan (for the same price), forcing ppl to buy additional fan separately. NSPR is just some "calculated" number that they use to rate performance. Every cooler manufacturer has it's own method of rating their coolers, like in case of BeQuiet they use "Wattage", but it's not directly comparable to other companies that also use "Wattage" for example Thermalright. I think even Noctua themselves explains it on their website. In my case when I bought D15S in 2018 it was the best performing air cooler according to many reviews (and the main competitor - 320W design Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme was not available in stores). And you see I didn't bought it for any specific cpu, I bought it for performance. I'm an overclocker and I needed good cooler to overclock on air and bin the cpu's. So that was it's initial purpose. Later when I bought 5950X I didn't had a cooler capable of being installed on AM4 so I had no other choice than to put Noctua on it. 5950X on all default settings is using 130W of electricity when loaded with Prime95, how much of that is transformed into heat only god knows. But on their website Noctua has cpu compatibility list which to this day claims that even regular D15S should be "best turbo/overclocking headroom" for 5950X, which is a complete joke. They even have the same claim for i9-14900KF, which is just delusional. I won't comment on the cpu TDP to cooler performance ratio you come up with. It may have very well worked out for you. But you paired mid-range cpu (with power consumption more or less the same as Q9650 from 2008) with high-end cooler so no wonder it's quiet. My point here is that air coolers have limits and manufacturers do not like to advertise that. Maybe something like 9800X3D @stock can still be managed properly with gen 2 Noctua, or new DeepCool. But I would seriously recommend LC for anything higher than that if you don't want to sit next to a hairdryer.
@falldownandgoboomАй бұрын
Another great video but I wonder why you didn't test the Thermalright Phantom Spirit SE. It's their best performing cooler and is available in Germany. I might consider the Silentware Titan if it were available here in the US.
@McBane.Ай бұрын
Awesome upload tyvm! Any chance of doing a review of the newer single tower air coolers?
@tetniaАй бұрын
Can you test the Endorfy with second fan installed?
@bambideluxeАй бұрын
I still prefer enclosed cases with mesh venting so the visual design on the interior doesn't bother me at all. As long as it doesn't have RGB or if I can at least disable or pull out the RGB plugs then I' happy as long as the performance is there.
@HostilenemyАй бұрын
Noticed your HWInfo64 version is almost a year old :).
@jordan-mn6yyАй бұрын
does corsair have a flat coldplate version for am5? i like the spaced/staggered pipes and large fans design choice
@VadikRammАй бұрын
I think Noctua is on track to release the Black version next year.
@cyberbeefpv281029 күн бұрын
what is the most silence?
@kylequestАй бұрын
As someone with a HTPC, I can't use any of them. Would love an 8 heat pipe with 125MM height version.
@efx245precor3Ай бұрын
Right we’re all on AM5 now. :)
@Demonoid1990Ай бұрын
I have the PCCooler/CPS RZ820 at home for when I eventually build my system early next year. I'll be interested to try it out. The few reviews I've seen abe been pretty positive. It's probably the largest/heaviest air cooler on the market atm, hasa good look, and performs up there with the best of them. I was going to get the Assassin IV VC but unfortunately Deep Cool is still sanctioned by US Gov..😅 Edit: Guess I almost forgot to mention, the PCCooler RZ820 design is more optimized for Intels LGA1700/1851 IHS hotspot. It's compatible with AMD but doesn't perform quite as well on AM5..
@ivo215Ай бұрын
It would have been nice to have seen Scythe in this line up. Just for the nostalgia. They do have a new Mugen, the Mugen 6. But they're still using 120mm fans, so they're simply not competing in the top tier of coolers anymore.
@TRINVIDEOАй бұрын
Is it possible to attach aftermarket fans to the DeepCool cooler though in case it dies in the future because the fan seems to have proprietary parts to attach?
@mackalАй бұрын
what if I love the brown design?
@AdamKafeiАй бұрын
This is a really good comparison, I would have liked to have had the NH-D15 in both positions rather than the possibly unfair offset only, would you mind making the same video for AIO coolers so we can compare them directly?
@dylanmonahan5909Ай бұрын
It's been done using the Artic Freezer 3 360 and naturally it beats all air coolers including the D15 G2. That's just the nature of the beast. Price difference is less of an argument if considering the high end for Air. You'd just go water ... unless you want a long service life solution, I guess... but these $30-50 coolers are pretty damn good value propositions for AMD CPU cooling.
@AlphaXrayАй бұрын
You said the budget thermal paste beats kryonaut?
@vollezarАй бұрын
I don't get it with the brown colour either. They do make grey and black fans. Why don't they use those on coolers?
@concinnusАй бұрын
They do, they just release later.
@TheGreenReaperАй бұрын
Because they want to promote their brand. You pay $10+ extra _not_ to do that.
@kmi187Ай бұрын
I don't mind the brown, if it performs at the top it's getting installed in my case. But that's just as subjective as your want for something more neutral. Keep in mind though, you buy peace of mind with noctua as well, their fans don't break down easy. You want to install a cooler and not have to look back for the next couple of years, brown coffee is a good option.
@michallaciakАй бұрын
Would be nice to see Dark Rock Elite vs NH-D15 v2 here as well ^^
@eric-pl6rkАй бұрын
Would vapor chamber benefit from offset? Deepcool vc should be better than the noctua g2 by 2 degrees.
@Alu333Ай бұрын
Silentware Titan looks interesting but cant seem to find anything about that model or brand, anyone got a link to their webpage or smth?
@PetervanderKruysАй бұрын
I love the brown colour, especially because they rock. Same as the heat pipe ends, a cover looks neat but if this blasts right past it then why bother?
@brzromanАй бұрын
would be nice to see vapor chamber close up, purely from curiosity point
@Panterbell_KuuАй бұрын
I think the Noctua Colours can really work well in the right scenario, like a Fractal North, it would look very nice with the Noctua 4080 i that card wasnt overpriced that much.