The new 9800X3D is a Beast! (also Delidding and Direct Die)

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@rzkrdn8650
@rzkrdn8650 Ай бұрын
Cats! Delidding!! Overclocking!!! I swear it's the best 9800x3D review so far!!!!!
@b1lleman
@b1lleman Ай бұрын
This review does have some special approaches which is nice, and usual with DerBauer.
@catsspat
@catsspat Ай бұрын
I don't know. Steve (HUB) relaxing on a couch was pretty amazing.
@NobbsAndVagene
@NobbsAndVagene Ай бұрын
He is The Builder for a reason (that's what "Der Bauer" translates to).
@mrnotsoclever
@mrnotsoclever Ай бұрын
It means you haven't watched Skatterbencher's 9800x3D overclock video yet. :)
@thealien_ali3382
@thealien_ali3382 Ай бұрын
Still have the 7900x on my x670e hero and won't upgrade yet
@GarageSupra
@GarageSupra Ай бұрын
Can we give this guy some mad props for uploading the same 2 videos every time, oce in German and then again in English. Impressive youtuber.
@thatguy5801
@thatguy5801 Ай бұрын
profit twice from the same subject, this is why bilingualism is important no matter the language.
@georgebeard2337
@georgebeard2337 Ай бұрын
If the outcome of the war was slightly different we would only have 1 😉
@JohnDoeWasntTaken
@JohnDoeWasntTaken Ай бұрын
I wonder if he's still using AI to do it. I remember when he first started using it I couldn't even tell and it freaked me out because it looked and sounded so natural.
@sjakiedevuilnisman
@sjakiedevuilnisman 5 күн бұрын
Not really because german people wont watch english, its 2 different demographics. Hes simply broadening his audience​@@thatguy5801
@potatopotatopotatopotatopo8746
@potatopotatopotatopotatopo8746 Ай бұрын
Thank you for being the only one who still does overclocking and delidding, and especially on DAY ONE. Super appreciated!
@G91YS
@G91YS Ай бұрын
that's useless though. archaïc
@thatguy5801
@thatguy5801 Ай бұрын
dude polished the cpu... like whaaaa thats 100
@Fztrm
@Fztrm Ай бұрын
The cat test requires at least 6 cats to be accurate
@mindinversions4487
@mindinversions4487 Ай бұрын
When you can herd 6 cats. When you can herd 3 cats: You let us know. 😂
@LordOfNihil
@LordOfNihil Ай бұрын
or a litter of kittens
@GuidoDePalma
@GuidoDePalma Ай бұрын
I agree
@MoultrieGeek
@MoultrieGeek Ай бұрын
Don't give Roman any ideas...
@Aotearas
@Aotearas Ай бұрын
Proper purrreviewing is important!
@ZylonFPV
@ZylonFPV Ай бұрын
The cat test really is a revolutionary upgrade that no other reviewer is doing. Gamers nexus would be well advised to also include this in their future reviews. They have a suitable member of staff for it too
@johanjacobs9240
@johanjacobs9240 Ай бұрын
Snowflake up to the task!
@thejo6331
@thejo6331 Ай бұрын
It's always difficult to schedule time for the CEO to contribute to reviews, but it really pays off
@glebglub
@glebglub Ай бұрын
I forgot they had a cat and thought you meant one of their staff was a fursuiter
@shaneeslick
@shaneeslick Ай бұрын
I miss her on screen contributions too, Snowflake used to host a lot of Reviews when the Studio/Office was at the house but I guess since the move to the Office Space as CEO she is busy doing behind the Scenes stuff.
@inkredebilchina9699
@inkredebilchina9699 Ай бұрын
does Pat Gelsinger do benchmarking? then how do you expect Steve to get his CEO to do it?
@xpwn3rx
@xpwn3rx Ай бұрын
I watched 3 other reviews - then came here because "It's der8auer, of course he's going to OC" which is all I wanted to know about.
@alpha007org
@alpha007org Ай бұрын
true!
@phantoslayer9332
@phantoslayer9332 Ай бұрын
FR THO
@shikihayate
@shikihayate Ай бұрын
Only he do the deliding, I know normal user dont delid but I still very curious to see
@aberkae
@aberkae Ай бұрын
SkatterBemcher has a great oc guide from novice to advanced. FYI
@enthuscimandiri1640
@enthuscimandiri1640 Ай бұрын
i came here 'cause of cats
@45545videos
@45545videos Ай бұрын
In the future, I'd love to see a more robust overclocking guide for these chips. I'm really considering doing direct die cooling for the 9800X3D and pushing it to the limit
@Fr4kTh1s
@Fr4kTh1s Ай бұрын
I have to recommend Scatter Bencher's channel. I hope Roman doesn't mind mentioning his "colleague" in arms, since they both do amazing jobs. And SB also provides extremely detailed step-by-step setup how he accomplishes the OC's, which is amazing/exhausting(just like GN Steve :) ) And yeah, I am seriously considering the Mycro now, as this seems to be really worth it, especially with the OC being legit option, not just BCLK/eCLK as on 7800X3D
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 Ай бұрын
Same...I have a 7950x3d custom loop with x670e but am thinking of going direct die CPU cooler for the 9950x3d if it's worth the uplift.
@nerdynumen
@nerdynumen Ай бұрын
All 3 of y'all, just stay outta my way at launch tmrw, and we won't have issues, kapeesh? (My cpu is dead, and I really just need the X3D to turn on my new system)
@Fr4kTh1s
@Fr4kTh1s Ай бұрын
@@GSP-76 Performance wise? Maybe, if you use it meaningfully. Financially... it is up to you. I will be upgrading from 7600, so I think the uplift will be significant, but for you the difference will be ... not so noticable. But that would require new board(MSI Pro B650M-A Wifi isn't exactly the top performer), but I will give it a shot... For X3D it might suffice.
@Fr4kTh1s
@Fr4kTh1s Ай бұрын
@@nerdynumen Don't worry, first I will have to save for the CPU itself, then for delider and block... so maybe in 3 months I might even start to consider buying the CPU... Time to get ahead of everyone in the meaningless 3Dmark ranks again... 1st place with my "rusty" 6800XT isn't enough!
@robertlawrence9000
@robertlawrence9000 Ай бұрын
Dude! That's a decent improvement!!! Nice work AMD!!!
@Dan-Simms
@Dan-Simms Ай бұрын
So sweet you can OC it. Nice improvements AMD
@aam77
@aam77 Ай бұрын
I remember the Intel CEO saying "AMD is in the rear-view mirror" after the Alder Lake CPU launch.
@Rocman76
@Rocman76 Ай бұрын
What he didn't know was the intel car was in reverse at the time...
@Gunni1972
@Gunni1972 Ай бұрын
That aged poorly, just as the "buying offer" from Intel to Nvidia.
@spitfire7772
@spitfire7772 Ай бұрын
That aged like fine milk
@Macheako
@Macheako Ай бұрын
@@Rocman76 😂😂😂😂 🔥
@Johan-rm6ec
@Johan-rm6ec Ай бұрын
He was right 9800x3d wasn't released yet.
@alihammad6318
@alihammad6318 Ай бұрын
Simulation games like FS2020 saw a 20% bump to average FPS and 24% bump to 1% lows compared to the 7800X3D. Edit: Tom's Hardware review shows the FS2020 charts, my replies seem to have vanished.
@LimitlessHorizonVRSimrigs
@LimitlessHorizonVRSimrigs Ай бұрын
Where did you read/hear this?
@aviator8583
@aviator8583 Ай бұрын
Source ? Didnt see any fs20 benchmarks yet.
@alihammad6318
@alihammad6318 Ай бұрын
@@aviator8583 Tom's Hardware's 9800X3D review has FS2020 in DX11 tested.
@alihammad6318
@alihammad6318 Ай бұрын
@@LimitlessHorizonVRSimrigs Tom's Hardware review.
@alihammad6318
@alihammad6318 Ай бұрын
@@aviator8583 Tom's Hardware review of the CPU has the stats for it.
@morpheus_9
@morpheus_9 Ай бұрын
Wow that 5.6GHz overclock was absolutely insane!
@temporaltomato3021
@temporaltomato3021 Ай бұрын
That is a huge boost, if it's casually achievable without direct-die as well. But damn... I've been wanting to do direct-die for years, and this might be the one. It is just such a cool CPU in terms of features and innovations culminating over time.
@Gunni1972
@Gunni1972 Ай бұрын
Waiting with baited breath for Cryo results.
@PanduPoluan
@PanduPoluan Ай бұрын
That's it. This seals the deal. My next gaming PC will use 9800X3D! (Haven't owned one for years, due to RL financial situation, but things are better now and I'm saving up!)
@manitoba-op4jx
@manitoba-op4jx Ай бұрын
you can probably get a better deal if you wait for the inevitable 9950X3D, since the 9800 will drop in price be a hundred $ or so
@PanduPoluan
@PanduPoluan Ай бұрын
@manitoba-op4jx Yup, not going to buy this one outright. Still saving some more.
@prussell890
@prussell890 Ай бұрын
Just bear in mind that the gpu is far more important and the performance of the 9800x3d would be highly dictated by the gpu. Never buy an expensive cpu and then skimp out on a gpu like a lot of rookie pc users. Pc's are a very very expensive investment and becomes outdated very quickly. Im waiting 12 months to see if intel can respond to this AMD slaughter 😂
@Revan_7even
@Revan_7even Ай бұрын
​@@prussell890 The CPU definitely helps in simulation games, Unreal 5 games (which everyone seems to be switching to), or Capcom's games like Dragon's Dogma 2 and Monster Hunter Wilds. Also depending on how old the cpu is (I had an i5 4690K with a GTX 1080), upgrading the GPU may not make a difference in framerate in new games because they are more CPU heavy. I could crank the graphics up to high but be getting the same 20-30fps as on low settings because CPU was at 100% usage. Needed a whole platform upgrade to update CPU to 7800X3D, so still had a GTX 1080 for a year but doubled my FPS.
@prussell890
@prussell890 Ай бұрын
@Revan_7even yes in your situation its 100% worth it if you upgrade to a high end gpu. Unreal 5 is horribly optimized if im right in thinking. I was thinking of changing to AMD but I wont see any serious gains from my current i7 14700k and 4080 super. My i7 14700k is still a very fast cpu
@noanyobiseniss7462
@noanyobiseniss7462 Ай бұрын
SO they did a flip chip while keeping the same socket??? INTEL ARE YOU WATCHING?
@viperpit-k5j
@viperpit-k5j Ай бұрын
Amd is a game changer and love that they try doing better. They really gained my confidence when buying a cpu.
@Dirkxke
@Dirkxke Ай бұрын
And they still release CPU's for the AM4 socket from time to time...
@LordOfNihil
@LordOfNihil Ай бұрын
since i skip a few generations between builds its always a new socket.
@volvo09
@volvo09 Ай бұрын
​@@Dirkxke reminds me of the socket 7 days when multiple CPU generations were compatible with boards.
@diaman_d
@diaman_d Ай бұрын
Intel is for corporate connected people who buy into the economical narratives, while AMD is for the non corporate connected world of humans.😁
@robmasters3569
@robmasters3569 15 күн бұрын
I'm absolutely delighted to see your cats again. I've really missed not having them in every video and I can only say it's unacceptable. When people have animals they should be seen and I'm glad you had them in this content. thank you.
@Drumaier
@Drumaier Ай бұрын
This videos are the best thing ever. I can't wait for the 9950x3d stuff.
@drewnewby
@drewnewby Ай бұрын
I show up for 9800X3D, I stay for cats.
@dukejukem413
@dukejukem413 Ай бұрын
Those are beautiful temperatures and power numbers. Finally a gaming chip that's not a furnace.
@TheDoomerBlox
@TheDoomerBlox Ай бұрын
The 5800x3d ran just fine on an AMD stock cooler, I will remind.
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Ай бұрын
All of them arent. Even 14900K is very decent once you throw away E cores, which are absolutely usless during gaming and eat up a ton of watts doing nothing useful.
@nerdynumen
@nerdynumen Ай бұрын
@@TheDoomerBlox Meh @ 5800X3D. This chip is by far, more exciting
@GrigoriBorta
@GrigoriBorta Ай бұрын
10/10 for the catbreak! Great review, thanks.
@orrygel
@orrygel Ай бұрын
I was just about to say you didn’t take our advice about bringing the cats back but then I get a 20 second montage! 🐈
@fral1073
@fral1073 Ай бұрын
*30
@MrSolvalou
@MrSolvalou Ай бұрын
Gotta say it's better than I expected. Still only like around 10% uplift, but if you're ready to spend some coins you can delid it and push it another 10%.
@bergdk237
@bergdk237 Ай бұрын
well 10-11% 7800xd3 to 9800x3d. From 5800x3d to 9800x3d it is a 35% uplift, with the potentiel to overclock it further😁
@Frozoken
@Frozoken Ай бұрын
Yeah but also while eliminating vcaches non gaming downsides too so this time you're getting the fastest 8 cores for everything not just gaming Hell even for gaming if you're playing esport type games and using high polling rate peripherals you'll be getting the non gaming performance improvement there, which is like 30% and seeing 8k polling rate mice are so taxing, that extra performance is needed
@dawn-moon
@dawn-moon Ай бұрын
@@bergdk237 it's time to upgrade my 4900RTX game pc from my current 5900x, to this new beast. Even for gaming at 1600p.
@ggoddkkiller1342
@ggoddkkiller1342 Ай бұрын
I think this CPU will be crazy popular for gaming laptops in 2025. It is efficent, powerful, runs cooler, it has whole laptop package..
@gbspikyfish
@gbspikyfish Ай бұрын
Kudos for including the CAT scan of the CPU ;)
@siberx4
@siberx4 Ай бұрын
Wow, those thermal improvements are fabulous. Direct-die cooling a processor with such a thin core die is a terrific combination.
@michaelbraaten
@michaelbraaten Ай бұрын
Hey Roman, one small addition I personally would like to see in these comparisons is the calculated ratio of frames/watt or watts/frame. Obviously I can pause the video and run the numbers on my phone calculator pretty easily, but it does interrupt the flow of the video. For me, seeing those ratios expressed numerically is a quick and easy way of cataloging the performance in my brain; seeing it and hearing you discuss it in those terms would help simplify the information for me and other people like me! Thanks, and great content as always!
@scottsmall9898
@scottsmall9898 Ай бұрын
AMD nailed this!!!!
@salapolivalenta77
@salapolivalenta77 Ай бұрын
The 1st review of this cpu i see, i don't need to see any other, simply the best! Cats test passed! :D
@HypnoticSuggestion
@HypnoticSuggestion Ай бұрын
Great video. Super excited for what the 9950X3D may bring.
@brandonsteffenhauser
@brandonsteffenhauser Ай бұрын
Incredibly good video - and I think you've sold me on going with direct-die when I upgrade.
@frankguy6843
@frankguy6843 Ай бұрын
Dude pulls out the Dremel to POLISH the delidded CPU what a legend
@JmGt24
@JmGt24 Ай бұрын
Yeah I think going from my old i5-8400 to a 9800X3D should be a big jump, right?
@Eusebiugh
@Eusebiugh Ай бұрын
Yea. Even to 5800x3d or 5700x3d a budget upgrade.
@glmchn
@glmchn Ай бұрын
😂 not sure, you might want to hold and wait a little bit more
@AlexVexler
@AlexVexler Ай бұрын
Bruh
@gladcomming
@gladcomming Ай бұрын
I7 3770 here xd
@zefirshaman
@zefirshaman 22 күн бұрын
@@Eusebiugh upgrade from dead platform to dead platform. Nice suggestion mate.
@sYnced99
@sYnced99 Ай бұрын
I must say, those new Cat Tests really shows how performant this chip is!
@Glerox
@Glerox Ай бұрын
Awesome review!!! Cant wait to OC this thing, there is a lot of headroom! Will try delliding for the first time
@cameronhenry-dx7yq
@cameronhenry-dx7yq 20 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@zb701
@zb701 Ай бұрын
My wife: "x3 what? Direct who? OH CAT BREAK!"
@SaccoBelmonte
@SaccoBelmonte Ай бұрын
Very nice video Roman. Nice CPU as well. Waiting for that 9950X3D to drop.
@orion9k
@orion9k Ай бұрын
Finally someone including CS2 comparison ! MUCH APPRICIATED! Hello from Denmark
@tosemusername
@tosemusername Ай бұрын
Hi Roman. Please do an introductory video about delidding and direct-die cooling using TG's products and the 9800X3D, explaining the how to do it from scratch, giving tips and tricks when applicable, the tools needed, as well as any other information. The 9800X3D is worthy of it, you make an informative promotional video of TGs products, and we, PC builders who've never done this but would like to get into it now, get a reliable tutorial. Everybody wins.
@FroschYankee
@FroschYankee Ай бұрын
We need definitely more cats breaks! Nice job Roman, thanks.
@ksk40
@ksk40 Ай бұрын
let's make cat test a formal and official test from now on!
@fwixgamer4796
@fwixgamer4796 Ай бұрын
This is one the best thing about AMD , they will always keep trying to overcome difficulties and bring joy to HIGH TECH folks like us , no matter how hard they fall , the engineers always took the challenge serious and make it happen , thank you guys .
@CyberneticArgumentCreator
@CyberneticArgumentCreator Ай бұрын
Rooting for the biggest CPU maker in the world as if they're a scrappy underdog is so weird honestly.
@HunterTracks
@HunterTracks Ай бұрын
​@@CyberneticArgumentCreatorBiggest CPU maker in the world is still Intel by far.
@Dazzxp
@Dazzxp Ай бұрын
​@@CyberneticArgumentCreator AMD has CPU, Console, GPU and custom SOC which is why they look big but they have (36k staff) 6.82 billion profit, yet despite all that Intel (130k staff) has CPU and a GPU department, but also they have FAB's 13.28 billion profit.
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Ай бұрын
@@Dazzxp Yeah. AMD sales are big ONLY on desktop CPU`s for end users. OEM`s, corporations, server farms - mostly intel. Their position of a somewhat monopoly for consoles and handhelds is simply unchanged (cause intel cant, for the love of god, give its igpu`s enough watts to work normally and not throttle to hell due to cpu package power limits).
@jlgroovetek
@jlgroovetek Ай бұрын
What an awesome CPU. Fast, efficient, and overclockable. This is AMD's Skylake.
@DanielCardei
@DanielCardei Ай бұрын
The improvements in performance and temperature are impressive.
@RaccChannel
@RaccChannel Ай бұрын
I am so excited to see what an overclock with your full attention can yield in the future!
@dmytroche
@dmytroche Ай бұрын
Now that the processors with 3d cache are unlocked, it will be interesting to see the performance of the 9900x3d and 9950x3d. Maybe this closes the gap that the 3d models of the 7000 line had in games.
@ZWortek
@ZWortek Ай бұрын
Suprisingly good OC performance here.
@rankcolour8780
@rankcolour8780 Ай бұрын
I cannot wait to delid and watercool one of these new x3d chips, being able to add more power and cool the cores properly is amazing news. Really tempted to way for a 9950x3d though!
@espressoshot21
@espressoshot21 Ай бұрын
The cat segment reminded me to press the Like button 😂
@DustinHarms
@DustinHarms Ай бұрын
Thanks for the cat break, I really needed that today. =)
@JJFX-
@JJFX- Ай бұрын
If buffing the die seems necessary for liquid metal reliability perhaps you could include simple die stencils with the delidding tool to help protect the PCB. Uploading stencil files for different generations that we could 3D print or trace onto thin cardboard would be really cool as well. This is finally becoming what we've hoped X3D could be. We may even see them integrate cache into the main Zen 6 lineup now. Intel really has an uphill battle ahead of them...
@darthwiizius
@darthwiizius Ай бұрын
Just cover it with kapton tape, mate.
@lexkoal8657
@lexkoal8657 Ай бұрын
Damn. Dremmel for delidding is insane and also temp in 40s in Cinebench is insane
@abrahamlincoln3181
@abrahamlincoln3181 Ай бұрын
Will the mystery of why cats are so fascinated with boxes ever be solved?
@WilhelmvonFahrvergnugen
@WilhelmvonFahrvergnugen Ай бұрын
ask Shrodinger
@upyermaw2732
@upyermaw2732 Ай бұрын
@@WilhelmvonFahrvergnugen I did he said we will never know why they do or why they don't
@Matt-oq4jq
@Matt-oq4jq Ай бұрын
The universal law of “if I fits, I sits”
@blakewatkiss7014
@blakewatkiss7014 Ай бұрын
@@Matt-oq4jqNo kidding…and amazed at how they squeeze themselves in and are apparently comfortable.
@Sir_Baddington
@Sir_Baddington Ай бұрын
Cats are fluid, fluids like to be in containers.
@_PITBOY
@_PITBOY Ай бұрын
Cat break ... best CPU reviewer ever. Nobody paws that chip better than those two.
@gustavo_vanni
@gustavo_vanni Ай бұрын
That's it-a cat test in a CPU review. Finally, a bold KZbinr did it! Take that, Steve. I mean, he probably already did it too; that man posts way too many videos!
@vm5773
@vm5773 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the excellent video. Clear, direct, and very informative. I almost wish I had not seen the performance and temperature benefits from delidding the CPU, because that is not something I think I can do myself. I am new to this channel, but you don't talk about what kind of cooler you use for the delidded CPU. It would be very interesting to see what are the limits that can be done for performance for a delidded CPU, with performance tuning of wattage, speed, timings, and memory optimization. In the end, I will probably end up getting a 9800 X3D to replace my aging 5600 X3D system, that is going to move to the backup system. I am going to wait though for prices and availability. Thanks again for a great video!
@Pro4TLZZ
@Pro4TLZZ Ай бұрын
Can't wait to see what the rest of the 9000x3d series can do
@jimbodee4043
@jimbodee4043 Ай бұрын
Love the 30 seconds Cat break :P
@bartekes8852
@bartekes8852 Ай бұрын
Finally the cats! Still i prefer if they are a part of the whole review, not just single video segment:)
@Enju23
@Enju23 Ай бұрын
I got my 9800X3D on order, sadly I live in Canada and our postal service is on strike currently, so I probably won't see my CPU until after that's all done, but upgrading from the 5800X3D, I'm looking forward to the performance and efficiency gain! Next I will just need to save up for a used 4000 series GPU to make this computer truly efficient, as I run an RTX 3080 right now
@DoctorrMetal
@DoctorrMetal Ай бұрын
Damn.. I have a 5800X3D that I got early last year.. I miss overclocking. I also got custom water cooling recently. Very tempting indeed.
@cyberdevil7518
@cyberdevil7518 22 күн бұрын
Would have loved to see how you properly applied the liquid metal, might wanna try that stuff at some point later on a build I have in mind.
@TechSid-hn6eg
@TechSid-hn6eg Ай бұрын
damn, thats a well designed chip that is. holding 5.6ghz stable is pretty nice along with 3d cache
@tarfeef_4268
@tarfeef_4268 Ай бұрын
Re: Intel memory speeds, I didn't request the change, but my ideal setup would be: Choose a *price competitive* memory kit that allows Intel to leverage the better IMC, and just make sure to call out that's what you did. Using a super fast, very expensive kit is a bit unfair, but if you can get a kit that's faster but perhaps with looser timings for the same price, and that works out to be faster, then Intel should be shown with that advantage, because users would make that same choice (at least if they're informed users who watch your videos :D )
@FaizanQuresh
@FaizanQuresh Ай бұрын
In India it is Pre-Order and will be available after 20th November the price is like 47,500/- Rs which is like 570$ dollars US
@damjanforjanic
@damjanforjanic Ай бұрын
The temperatures are insanely good.
@snemarch
@snemarch Ай бұрын
It would be nice to se you do a deep dive on different thermal compounds when delidding - liquid metal as usual, your KryoSheets, ptm7950, perhaps even some regular thermal paste. Like, focusing on engineering, material science, and longevity - it's great when you go into the nitty-gritty details. A video of that kind could skip all the gaming benchmarks, but of course do a synthetic all-core load like Cinebench to show the temperature differences of the different compounds. Would be interesting if you also add your high-performance heat spreader and talk about differences in thermal compound between the HPHS and cooler.
@mr_jarble
@mr_jarble Ай бұрын
Cat break was amazing please make this a regular thing
@brianzjones
@brianzjones Ай бұрын
Thumbs up for the cat-break. Not b/c I particularly care for the cats (I'm agnostic), but b/c you listened to the cat-loving comments. Hilarious. -bZj
@SAFFY7411
@SAFFY7411 Ай бұрын
10:18 Highlight of the entire video!
@Thiago_NZPC
@Thiago_NZPC Ай бұрын
Thanks for the PT audio option but I'd rather prefer to listen to the original :)
@PainterVierax
@PainterVierax Ай бұрын
I say "no thanks" to those new features. I already hate when the titles are automatically changed. I pretty much prefer creators who pays real translators to provide good old subtitles than any of those automated stuffs following the AI trend.
@der8auer-en
@der8auer-en Ай бұрын
that is some strange stuff. I didn't even enable it :O
@sirmonkey1985
@sirmonkey1985 Ай бұрын
@@PainterVierax whether you hate it or not google doesn't care. they need to justify the billions of dollars they're spending on AI and we get to be their guinea pigs.
@matusalem_hw
@matusalem_hw Ай бұрын
@@der8auer-en nooo please that was fun :)
@henry_tsai
@henry_tsai Ай бұрын
Nice multi-cat benchmark!
@OxMilky
@OxMilky Ай бұрын
Would enjoy seeing the block getting removed after such puddles of LM, sure you know your stuff, no doubt. I just apply it very differently. Would suck that fresh extra LM back in the syringe aswell, directing the needle lumen towards the bottom of the LM applied. I prepare the surfaces of a die and cooler base (identical area as a die), by massaging the surface with a Q-tip and some force, with approximately 1-2mm drop of LM. It saturates the surfaces "chemically" or what so ever, then can quite generously squeeze LM on top to make a wiggly puddle while spreading it fully. The last step is to suck back in the excess amounts of LM, leaving a kind of very thin surfaces of LM on both the die+cooler surfaces. And now it is time to connect them together. Done LM installations some 15years too, and changed the way of applying to this by some notes done by myself. It's rather hassle free imo, due to normal way of doing and the nature of LM being like a liquid magnet lol. Also scraping the surfaces gently with some 1000-2000 grit sanding paper. Just some light sanding to make surfaces change to a matte finish, LM "connects" way better and easier spreading.
@OctagonalSquare
@OctagonalSquare 26 күн бұрын
I can’t believe all they had to do to make overclocking possible was to flip the chip and cache. And I’m so glad someone at AMD realized it
@shmookins
@shmookins Ай бұрын
Can we expect the coming 9950x3D to have a major uplift in productivity tools (like compression/decompression)? The gaming performance is nice, but I am left wanting more from the non-gaming performance. Should I wait for that new chip or just get this one?
@gregzapia
@gregzapia Ай бұрын
Loved the cat break!
@TheSoldier718
@TheSoldier718 Ай бұрын
cat was teasing intel here you go then taking it back saying nope
@Boris-Vasiliev
@Boris-Vasiliev Ай бұрын
Why dont they sell CPUs for enthusiasts without lids? It could be very convenient for overclockers while also saving on production costs.
@Drumaier
@Drumaier Ай бұрын
Is because of the warranty, there would be a lot of room for people screwing things up and calling for RMA. But as you, I wish there would be a more straight forward way to get a delided, functional cpu as this or the 9950x3d when is out.
@Boris-Vasiliev
@Boris-Vasiliev Ай бұрын
@@Drumaier They are definitely making CPUs for laptops that are cooled directly and sell them to partners or as spare parts.
@erkinalp
@erkinalp Ай бұрын
@@Boris-Vasiliev but those aren't meant to be shipped as boxed products
@staples4335
@staples4335 Ай бұрын
AUD $800+ here in Australia, unfortunately. Glad I bought a 7800x3D in August for $588. Will be keeping it for a while.
@D.u.d.e.r
@D.u.d.e.r Ай бұрын
Unboxing, review + testing, delidding with polishing + direct die tests and "Thermal Grizzly" cats intermission😁all done in 18 mins!👍👍That's why I like your reviews! 9800X3D has certainly delivered on all fronts mainly by putting V-Cache underneath compute die, congrats AMD for creating best gaming CPU!👏Intel should be jealous, efficiency is truly superb! Only thing I am missing with these high end gaming CPUs is support of max DDR5 RAM speeds of 8800 MT. Not sure why they go with max 5600 MT in this case or 6400 MT with Intel.
@0nebigworm
@0nebigworm Ай бұрын
the best test method ever!
@guily6669
@guily6669 Ай бұрын
The cat approves, that's all it needs!!!! 😎
@VicharB
@VicharB Ай бұрын
Really good to see bump in base Ghz, lower TDP/Temp and overall gain, though not substantial compared to 7800X3D, but still overall good package.. Will upgrade next year from my current 7700X running with 32GB/6400 CL32 along with 2TB Samsung 990 Pro & nVidia 3800Ti (hopefully will have budget to upgrade GPU as well).
@FARBerserker
@FARBerserker Ай бұрын
below 75°c in stock condition while under torture load? that is fucking fanstatic!
@Alexanderkowaliuk-s7i
@Alexanderkowaliuk-s7i Ай бұрын
Love the cat break
@utubby3730
@utubby3730 Ай бұрын
I really dont think if there was any competition happening we would be talking nearly so highly about this chip. It is indeed top of the charts, but price and power have also gone up which IMO makes this win less impressive. *E: Just got to the delidding portion, I will say its nice to see these gains. Dont know how many will actually do this, but still its nice to see.
@Monsux
@Monsux Ай бұрын
I've tried to find at least one source that could do max RT/PT tests with open world games like Cyberpunk, Star Wars, Spider-Man, etc. The high Ray Tracing does hit so hard on many game CPU performance. I've been running a lot of high-end RT and PT test for CPU loads. It's been just unbelievable how demanding some games, scenes, settings are for CPU usage. Not just average usage, but 0.1 & 1% fps averages. I have been running CPU tests for 15+ years, but just under a year with CPU tests with RT on wide a range of titles. My well binned 5800x3D does limit hard my Cyberpunk experience even at 4k & 1440p ultrawide screens. Started testing with max graphics + PT, but lower rendering resolution. The CPU becomes a massive bottleneck even at 60 fps range or lower (medium crowd density). Trying to use high crown density, CPU is screaming help. I would just like to know the difference on CPU heavy scenes, 5800x3D vs. 7800x3D vs. 9800x3D. Maybe more if possible. These three would at least show the low and average fps difference when using 4090. The game could run low ultra performance 4k mode or 1440p ultra performance. I would just like to see those Path Tracing and more demanding open world RT games CPU differences. I would do these test, but sadly miss the hardware needed.
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Ай бұрын
Also intel tests for comparison. Arrow lakes have surprisingly bad 0.1% and 1% lows in 1080p ultra performance, so it should be interesting to see how it will change in 1440p or 4k.
@igorvidakovic7388
@igorvidakovic7388 Ай бұрын
@Monsux TechPowerUp has a test with RT in games on different resolutions
@Monsux
@Monsux Ай бұрын
@@igorvidakovic7388 I already found Eurogamer Digital Foundry 9800x3D tests on their website. They have by far the best testing methods, scenarios, automation, etc. for CPU's with and without RT settings. Truly 5/5 site for end users. Highly recommend. They also have test result for all the main resolutions + even better scale for different fps loads: low 1%, 5%, average, high 5%, 1%. Then there are live video + graph for selected CPUs. This is the new gold standard for CPU testing.
@lubossoltes321
@lubossoltes321 Ай бұрын
Can't decide what's the best part of the video, the OC results or the cats ...
@ouroesa
@ouroesa Ай бұрын
Thanks for actually including overclocking. Would als like to see stock overclocks.
@paulthebeardedonedowning6820
@paulthebeardedonedowning6820 Ай бұрын
hmmmm I can't wait to see proper OC ing deep dives on this part also very curious to see what the higher core count X3D parts can do and just generally how they perform great job brother on this review.... also with your wall decorations theres a cool looking product just released that may be a good addition the GN dice set you'd have to check the dimensions of course
@thumpertron
@thumpertron Ай бұрын
That t-shirt he's wearing looks really soft and comfortable.
@tejay9416
@tejay9416 Ай бұрын
We'll have to wait to see the analytics for the cat test but it seems the results are going to be staggering.
@Matticitt
@Matticitt Ай бұрын
The fact it's using 89W in gaming while overclocked to 5.6GHz is nuts. Also the power it's rising very fast. It's not like gaining additional 10% performance requires 50% more power. So that means there's more headroom for overclocking.
@PawsdNSaved
@PawsdNSaved Ай бұрын
By standard of the last 5-7 years 400mhz is a huge gain and normally I would be concerned but your not only water cooled but delided and the temps and just glorious. Inb4 someone tries to daily at 5.8ghz+. Now maybe on a 9950x3d with the peak grade of silicon quality but I don’t think the lil 8 cores are getting the best silicon, more like B grade and nothing worse. Won’t know for sure until a bunch of us have them and we make a community chart but it seems like anything at or under 1.35v may actually be game again for Ryder.
@trixualz219
@trixualz219 Ай бұрын
im gonna try it :)
@trixualz219
@trixualz219 Ай бұрын
just wondering whether to wait for 5090 or not, because i might add mo-ra radiator 😭 my 2 360mm rads just about cool my 14900ks and 4090 now so
@sirmonkey1985
@sirmonkey1985 Ай бұрын
other way around when it comes to the X3D chips. they're binned for the x800X3D first.
@JakeySurani
@JakeySurani Ай бұрын
U get 1 good ccd like the 9700x or 9800x3d gets then u get one that doesn't perform well so they can get rid of defective chips
@johanjacobs9240
@johanjacobs9240 Ай бұрын
12:27 Taken the phrase "Do not try this at home" to a new level.🤣
@JJFX-
@JJFX- Ай бұрын
TBH it's not as sketchy as it may seem if you're familiar with using a dremel but I'd probably use a slightly wider and softer buffing wheel.
@metalmeltdown31
@metalmeltdown31 Ай бұрын
Going from a 7950X3D to a 9800X3D. Love the 7950X, but it's 1% lows/ frame times are really noticeable in games. I'm hoping to get this one running smoother and overclocked.
@packetcreeper
@packetcreeper Ай бұрын
Looks like AMD has knocked it out of the park! I'm running a 7800X3D now but this has certainly peaked my interest.
@mikebow2798
@mikebow2798 Ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video. Indeed, watching the cat for a bit is like washing the face. I'm not sure I'm right, but maybe you should have overclocked and tested the CPU with the original AMD IHS first for comparison. I have the delid tool, and have used it for delidding an 8700G, 7950X and 7700 and it works great. So I'd like to ask a question if anyone can answer it. After doing delid and resealing the IHS with silicone, what would you recommend us as a thermal contact solution, liquid metal or KryoSheet pads? I've heard that liquid metal also wears off over time, I was wondering if the KryoSheet doesn't. Thank you so much in advance. Have a nice day everyone.
@FrietjeOorlog
@FrietjeOorlog Ай бұрын
Does the 9800X3D still benefit from an offset heatsink mounting, like the 7mm offset for the Noctua NH-D15?
@richardwales9674
@richardwales9674 Ай бұрын
Der8auer, glowing review. Cats, paws for thought. I'm a little concerned, what do the cats know?
@S_Karthik
@S_Karthik Ай бұрын
Car validated the KING of GAMING CPU so no more question needed
@LassiVVV
@LassiVVV Ай бұрын
Direct die with curve optimizer - 30 or +30 all cores etc test maybe be veru interesting, if have time play with processor. End thanks best english language pc channel on YT.
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