DEF CON 32 - Disenshittify or die! How hackers can seize the means of computation - Cory Doctorow

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@MarcelloLins
@MarcelloLins 3 ай бұрын
"When they do it, its progress, when you do it, its piracy. Every pirate wants to be an admiral" What a strong statement !
@playerguy2
@playerguy2 3 ай бұрын
_... because they did it with an app._ Because that makes all the difference in the world!
@GypsyTravler
@GypsyTravler 3 ай бұрын
I say Let Them Be Admirals!!! Hackers are alot more ethical than GoOGLe
@chadh3441
@chadh3441 2 ай бұрын
It's the same with law enforcement. A cop can blatantly lie to you and it's considered legal, a part of their job duties. However, when a citizen lies to a cop it's illegal, and often ends up with the citizen being charged with a crime as well as being arrested and taken to jail. 2 tier judicial system for sure. Cheers
@RolandoGarza
@RolandoGarza 2 ай бұрын
Just look at how AI was trained (illegally scraping and redistributing through some sort of data laundering billions of webpages, books, videos, source code, etc. - all of them with either Copyright or Copyleft restrictions).
@GypsyTravler
@GypsyTravler 2 ай бұрын
@@RolandoGarza yes AI apps come with disclaimers In fine print under 'Terms & Conditions' They basically tell you that THEY OWN © over everything YOU create with their AI app 😒 Double villain syndrome. Just like any mafia crime syndicate, They (AI Corps) Profit from the Theft of other people's hard work..but they get us humans to do the crime.. it's in their playbook 😏 I mean tax payer contributions have been funding global mafia since..🤔..the conception of imposed taxes on citizens (a temporary fix at the time according to gvmt)
@jefftee7354
@jefftee7354 3 ай бұрын
Hey organizers, give this guy ALL the time he wants next time.
@loninappleton
@loninappleton 3 ай бұрын
Yes. I couldn't understand why they were trying to give Cory the hook like in an old vaudeville show when his message is so important.
@TacticalFluke09
@TacticalFluke09 3 ай бұрын
right? imagine giving doctorow a duff mic and ushering him off the stage before he's finished.
@Artificial-Cognition
@Artificial-Cognition 3 ай бұрын
Wasn't the first time this happened, that's why I lost all respect for this event. The speakers are always good, the attendees are always good, but everything else is just 👎lol if I didn't know any better I'd even say they were so quick to get him off the stage because some of what he was saying applies to them. Would be such irony.
@Frickolas
@Frickolas 3 ай бұрын
And a fully functional microphone...
@blakelapierre
@blakelapierre 3 ай бұрын
g-simp
@pilotnamealreadytaken6035
@pilotnamealreadytaken6035 3 ай бұрын
This guy needs to make this speach on every podcast imaginable
@ambivalentnpc
@ambivalentnpc 3 ай бұрын
Those watching need to nuke the like button to sun so that the algorithm stumbles in its shoelaces and lets the message SPREAD. This is your daily dose of like the video reminders.
@GeorgeNoiseless
@GeorgeNoiseless 3 ай бұрын
Cory Doctorow has been here since web 2.0 started, always a consumer advocate. If someone hasn't heard him yet, it's because the word isn't being spread. Link this talk, share it, blast it on mike your multiplayer match if you have to.
@gorgonbert
@gorgonbert 3 ай бұрын
“THEY” won’t let him 😉
@JeremyAndersonBoise
@JeremyAndersonBoise 3 ай бұрын
“This guy” is Cory Doctorow and he is one of the most important people protecting your freedom.
@ingusmant
@ingusmant 3 ай бұрын
Even rogaine's?
@benni2294
@benni2294 3 ай бұрын
dear youtube managers, please make this video a giant teddybear
@JH-pt6ih
@JH-pt6ih 3 ай бұрын
What does this mean?
@benni2294
@benni2294 3 ай бұрын
@@JH-pt6ih goota watch the talk ;)
@sandwich2473
@sandwich2473 3 ай бұрын
​@@JH-pt6ih14:00 ish
@michaelstevenson5044
@michaelstevenson5044 2 ай бұрын
KZbin has that too
@mikenichollsthethird2549
@mikenichollsthethird2549 2 ай бұрын
They did...
@gregmark1688
@gregmark1688 3 ай бұрын
"The rats have bought out the poison company and shut it down." Damn this man is fucken genius.
@nerobaal6655
@nerobaal6655 3 ай бұрын
This dude is the poison in your devices.
@beantreats
@beantreats 3 ай бұрын
@@nerobaal6655 we found the rat!
@nerobaal6655
@nerobaal6655 3 ай бұрын
@@beantreats Yea every time you guys look in the mirror you find it.
@chemrot931
@chemrot931 3 ай бұрын
@@nerobaal6655you say as you type on your black mirror. lol. lmao even.
@nerobaal6655
@nerobaal6655 3 ай бұрын
@@chemrot931 I don’t exclude myself when I say those things. I am included.
@ManuelTiedtke
@ManuelTiedtke 3 ай бұрын
"When Facebook scraped MySpace, that was progress. When Google scraped the internet, that was progress. When you do that today, they will nuke the sh1t out of you with their lawyers." I love you Cory. @33:50
@mattilindstrom
@mattilindstrom 3 ай бұрын
Oh Doctorow, one of my favorite polemicists. Performed by anybody else I'd call this a rant, but by him this to me is a thoughtful opinion piece delivered at light speed.
@mt180extras
@mt180extras 3 ай бұрын
who's to say it's not both? a thoughtful opinion piece and a rant are quite difficult to disambiguate from one-another, i'd say
@mattilindstrom
@mattilindstrom 3 ай бұрын
@@mt180extras A fair take, matter of opinion.
@LilMissLyss
@LilMissLyss 3 ай бұрын
Prejudice much?
@loninappleton
@loninappleton 3 ай бұрын
I tried to tell one of his jokes from a speech and balled it up. He has speed and accuracy. It's amazing.
@staninjapan07
@staninjapan07 3 ай бұрын
That's a top-notch speech right there. On target and precise, but delivered with a casual and caustic style. I will certainly be watching this again to memorize some talking points.
@DSL-33166
@DSL-33166 2 ай бұрын
He sayin what everybody with a brain feels
@ickromwerk610
@ickromwerk610 3 ай бұрын
Only enshitification talks becomes better with years
@andypetrow4228
@andypetrow4228 3 ай бұрын
Sobering
@MrTbirkett
@MrTbirkett 3 ай бұрын
It's because of the exponential content being created - endless growing amounts of enshittification... and with the promises of GenAI - it's only going to get worse, faster, all the time.
@leggysoft
@leggysoft 3 ай бұрын
This guy is like a patent troll, despite there being prior art of enshittify he doesn't care and still pretends he invented a word.
@Jm-wt1fs
@Jm-wt1fs 3 ай бұрын
@@leggysoftwhen did he say he invented the word?
@leggysoft
@leggysoft 3 ай бұрын
@@Jm-wt1fs he circular-cites himself in his articles and wiki claiming to be the inventor of a made up word people have made up repeatedly for decades
@NahtShure
@NahtShure 3 ай бұрын
"Please stop telling each other if you're not paying for the product, you are the product." PREACH!!!
@Ouvii
@Ouvii 3 ай бұрын
10:09 full context
@EvilGPT
@EvilGPT 3 ай бұрын
Fuck yes finally the talks are coming in.
@HRRRRRDRRRRR
@HRRRRRDRRRRR 3 ай бұрын
I too look forward to all of my free time disappearing.
@MasterMadaraXD
@MasterMadaraXD 3 ай бұрын
just the day before I went on the defcon channel and thought, that they may come out any day now
@Sarge92
@Sarge92 3 ай бұрын
Same here here's to hoping we get some good talks I appreciate all the speakers but the last couple years talks have been a little dry
@KJ-xt3yu
@KJ-xt3yu 3 ай бұрын
​@@Sarge92 guess we get to enjoy the loss of time watching the defcon content, most of the good topics get pulled before a talk though
@drumstyx
@drumstyx 3 ай бұрын
I want to watch this 3 times over
@phlooke
@phlooke 2 ай бұрын
This man got hit with the optical/laser microphone DDoS attack, but with positive intelligence he reversed engineered it into a rave. 5:04 In other news, protect this man at all costs. I could listen to this guy speak facts for hours.
@finding.filene6509
@finding.filene6509 3 ай бұрын
Just when I thought Cory Doctorow couldn't give a better speech, he does. Unbelievably good talk, universally and holistically. Thank you.
@blaeks
@blaeks 3 ай бұрын
What specifically is good about it (apart of the creative narrative - that is brilliant as always)? All these creative, genial and brilliant people do not even _mention_ low consumption, or low-ER consumption, or strategies of frugal living or fasting or something like that. How is this possible?! I am puzzled. All this is a (creative) cannibalization of society by dopamine instant-gratification brain. It's painfully simple but true. Cannibalization is present on all levels (both material and abstract), does this paradigm even require an explanation?
@physiqueDrummond
@physiqueDrummond 3 ай бұрын
he's even DJing! and plays Ondes Martenot
@messywill
@messywill 3 ай бұрын
This gives me hope that my children might experience the internet that I did. An internet that was fun and not just advertising
@loninappleton
@loninappleton 3 ай бұрын
I felt the same way after immersing myself in the trail of KZbin entries I've missed. This was 'the nuts."
@peterbelanger4094
@peterbelanger4094 3 ай бұрын
Why TF is this guy STILL wearing a mask? what kind of nutjob is he? I'm not going to listen to ANYONE who still wears a face mask in 2024, really, WTF? who cares what he has to say, he''s leftist, ... sworn enemy!
@quesonegro
@quesonegro 3 ай бұрын
It's hard to watch this video, not because the content is bad, but because it is just so frustrating how true it is. It's only been a month, but I can't wait to go back for DC 33.
@MrSwaga1
@MrSwaga1 3 ай бұрын
Can anyone go or is it invite only?
@gavinknight8560
@gavinknight8560 2 ай бұрын
It will be too late to take industrial action by the time enough tech folks actually wake up.
@gavinknight8560
@gavinknight8560 2 ай бұрын
@@MrSwaga1anyone can go, and it’s fantastic.
@replynotificationsdisabled
@replynotificationsdisabled 2 ай бұрын
i just can't stand his wear of a mask... like do a full mask or not, the VID was a sham.
@johndeaux8815
@johndeaux8815 3 ай бұрын
I love that 5:30 into a talk on the enshittification of technology, his microphone starts to buzz 😂
@Thuja814
@Thuja814 3 ай бұрын
👻
@SimGunther
@SimGunther 3 ай бұрын
I think the mic wanted to shut him down 🤣
@JPs-q1o
@JPs-q1o 3 ай бұрын
Made in Ching-Chang-China, sh!tsource epicenter for ensh!tification...
@alfonzo7822
@alfonzo7822 3 ай бұрын
Yep trying to silence the truth /a la conspiracy ​@@SimGunther
@ianmoore5502
@ianmoore5502 3 ай бұрын
Specifically while discussing how you can't listen to audio not Specifically locked in by Apple
@kusharora21
@kusharora21 3 ай бұрын
I wish I could rant like this… so concise, descriptive and well structured without loosing focus of his argument
@beantreats
@beantreats 3 ай бұрын
I mean, not to take away from a good speech, but he did have notes with him there that he was looking at to keep him on track.
@ThegratefulC
@ThegratefulC 3 ай бұрын
The enshitification rant at the beginning was epic lol
@xj0ex39
@xj0ex39 3 ай бұрын
I think you meant from the defcon conference last year yet he looks like he’s wearing the same outfit.
@userou-ig1ze
@userou-ig1ze 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, I scrolled back
@drlaza
@drlaza 3 ай бұрын
the whole thing is a rant :D
@xj0ex39
@xj0ex39 3 ай бұрын
@Rubalix was this a statement or a diss?
@sergiosierra2422
@sergiosierra2422 3 ай бұрын
I was like woah 35 minute rant... and then he continued lol
@gabrielfair724
@gabrielfair724 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for letting this person finish. This speech is more important than your conference
@aubydauby
@aubydauby 3 ай бұрын
Note that Cory Doctorow isn't just some guy; he's probably the most known name at the conference.
@just-mees
@just-mees 2 ай бұрын
rude but okay
@myname-mz3lo
@myname-mz3lo 3 ай бұрын
yes. lets rebuild the internet . cypher punks we need you
@SlaserX
@SlaserX 3 ай бұрын
You first
@LostArchivist
@LostArchivist 3 ай бұрын
​@@SlaserXTakes a team
@Spells4Cheap
@Spells4Cheap 3 ай бұрын
Where can I sign up?
@guerra_dos_bichos
@guerra_dos_bichos 3 ай бұрын
@@Spells4Cheap Yarrrrrrrrr matey
@Rockyzach88
@Rockyzach88 3 ай бұрын
Gotta have non-corporate server infrastructure.
@xkaaiix
@xkaaiix 3 ай бұрын
"Seize the means of computation" is a hell of a slogan
@patricknelson
@patricknelson 3 ай бұрын
A modern day clarion call. This generation’s “Hack the planet.” (And a good name for a book, too…)
@nerobaal6655
@nerobaal6655 3 ай бұрын
Like any of these people could do it. 😂
@ennui7778
@ennui7778 3 ай бұрын
​​@@nerobaal6655I've been using computers since I was 2, I certainly can't do it alone but if I got some help from some like minded friends I'll take my chances. not like ceos know how to code but I do and so do a ton of people in my generation so who has power over computing? the ceo who has to call tech support when he needs to reset his email password or those of us who speak the languages of computing?
@SevenRiderAirForce
@SevenRiderAirForce 3 ай бұрын
It won't do him any favors. It's like saying "Heil Doctorow" or "The techies will rise again" - invoking the worst ideologies from history is just going to keep him fringe.
@ajaxjaxxy3537
@ajaxjaxxy3537 3 ай бұрын
@@SevenRiderAirForcestay mad lol
@noahsabin7386
@noahsabin7386 3 ай бұрын
The saying used to be "if you're not paying for the product, you are the product." A better saying is, "if you're not at the table, you're on the menu." Get angry, get involved, get organized.
@kiras3180
@kiras3180 2 ай бұрын
"The time of the rats"
@axa993
@axa993 2 ай бұрын
This guy put into words everything that was bothering me about the Internet in the last few years. Bless him. We gotta fight.
@DSL-33166
@DSL-33166 2 ай бұрын
Try last 10 years. R.I.P Netscape era, late 90's was a glorious celebration of liberty, mid 2000's the peak, its been downhill ever since
@d.w.stratton4078
@d.w.stratton4078 2 ай бұрын
I listened to every second of this and was RIVETED. I've heard Cory before on Adam Conover's show and have listened to one of their speeches at a previous DEF CON about enshitification, but this was even BETTER. Cory, thanks for being a cantankerous s.o.b. willing to tell capital interests where to shove it, my guy!
@MewBlood
@MewBlood 3 ай бұрын
I fucking love Doctorow. Nobody understands and communicates the bullshit of tech as well as he does.
@Fiqure242
@Fiqure242 3 ай бұрын
great wroter too
@ItAintFar
@ItAintFar 3 ай бұрын
Why’s he wearing a mask?. Is it his costume or is he worried about the flu
@JeremyAndersonBoise
@JeremyAndersonBoise 3 ай бұрын
Big sames, I love his fiction writing too.
@JeremyAndersonBoise
@JeremyAndersonBoise 3 ай бұрын
@@ItAintFar He does that at conferences, it makes sense. I literally did not notice until I read your comment. Also, if you think you might be sick, it is a responsible public health move to wear a mask to protect other people, so maybe that.
@enirya
@enirya 3 ай бұрын
@@ItAintFar cause he's a smart guy and knows there's still a pandemic on
@JackhammerPhilosophy
@JackhammerPhilosophy 3 ай бұрын
Amazing talk, actually the first thing to give me some hope for how we can all collectively deal with enshittification!
@pilotnamealreadytaken6035
@pilotnamealreadytaken6035 3 ай бұрын
This guy needs to be in Congress or senate
@willboler830
@willboler830 3 ай бұрын
I'm putting Cory Doctorow right up there with Lina Khan as one of my modern heroes. This was absolutely beautiful!
@beenright5115
@beenright5115 3 ай бұрын
Yes! Cory Doctorow is OG
@IBx27
@IBx27 3 ай бұрын
I hope Harris keeps Khan right where she is
@georgeokello8620
@georgeokello8620 3 ай бұрын
@@IBx27Harris has been funded by Silicon Valley interests and they are actively in her ear to remove Lina Khan from her position
@BertoBoyd
@BertoBoyd 2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah. Great connection made!
@JakubDavoy
@JakubDavoy 3 ай бұрын
haha nice, "every pirate wants to be an admiral" for the logic behind big corp copyright behviour is wild
@donovanvanderlinde3478
@donovanvanderlinde3478 3 ай бұрын
It's about time the hacker zeitgeist wakes up
@BillNyeTheBountyGuy
@BillNyeTheBountyGuy 3 ай бұрын
If we live in a post-enshitification world my only regret will be that Mr. Doctorow won't rant about enshitification to me anymore.
@vosechu
@vosechu Күн бұрын
I’ll take that future please. :)
@footnuke
@footnuke 2 ай бұрын
This is one of the best tech talks I've ever seen. Doctorow is a kick-ass public speaker.
@Steadfish
@Steadfish 3 ай бұрын
What a great choice for the first talk to post!
@rmdashrfv
@rmdashrfv 2 ай бұрын
We have never needed a talk like this more than we need it now. Thank you Cory Doctorow
@Elecjester
@Elecjester 3 ай бұрын
STANDING OVATION for this fantastic speech. Share it far & wide & get it in front of the eyeballs that need to see it the most.
@z3r0trust
@z3r0trust 3 ай бұрын
Doctorow is legendary. Check out his books, too! So much knowledge and good ideas to fix major issues in tech coming from him.
@shygrammer
@shygrammer 3 ай бұрын
he's calling name!!! the balls on this guy are massive!
@ginalibrizzi5204
@ginalibrizzi5204 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I love this guy!
@05Matz
@05Matz 3 ай бұрын
Extremely valuable. Cory is a public treasure. Subject matter always gets me angry, but Cory offers a ray of hope, at least.
@RobertLesac
@RobertLesac 3 ай бұрын
The world needs to hear this. Thank you Cory!
@robelbelay4065
@robelbelay4065 3 ай бұрын
I've not heard this many nails getting smashed on the head in a looong time! Amazing talk!!
@chadh3441
@chadh3441 2 ай бұрын
This dude should be given a 2 hr slot at every event! Excellent speech man, bravo! From beginning to end, it's loaded with tons of important information about today's internet, and the ruthless tactics used by large corporations to dominate world markets, it's citizens, and any expectation of personal privacy. Great speech again! Cheers
@Jango1989
@Jango1989 3 ай бұрын
This was even better in person. Fantastic!
@muteloch2798
@muteloch2798 3 ай бұрын
Lucky duck
@detromaniac
@detromaniac 3 ай бұрын
I honestly want to boot advertising from the internet entirely.
@LordofFullmetal
@LordofFullmetal 3 ай бұрын
I wish we could - but realistically, that hurts more people than it helps. And not the big corporations, because they can afford to find other ways of advertising. The people who get hurt by the removal of internet advertising are the everyman. That author who makes a living selling their books. That artist who does commissions. That person working in digital advertising who's just trying to feed their family. THOSE are the people that get hurt.
@chandrastar5939
@chandrastar5939 2 ай бұрын
​@@LordofFullmetalyou're defending the the fema camp guards that bash you into submission. Because if you hit back it hurts their families? Because they use their 'art' talents/skills to sell poisonous and mind numbing useless products. Advertising is social engineering. Wake up.
@TacticalFluke09
@TacticalFluke09 3 ай бұрын
I hope history remembers Cory as one of the most impactful speakers of our time.
@jpo3811
@jpo3811 3 ай бұрын
Nobody give this guy any cocaine. Good talk, Cory.
@luciphonicverdigris3149
@luciphonicverdigris3149 3 ай бұрын
Wow! Just as he trashes iOS, a harsh pulse intrudes on his RF. That's when you KNOW it's good!
@filthyfrankblack4067
@filthyfrankblack4067 2 ай бұрын
Apples skynet was not happy about that.
@Meikulish
@Meikulish 3 ай бұрын
I didn’t think I’d watch more than 5 minutes of this but he really got me. This talk has 10 of the top 10 antimonopoly lines I’ve ever heard.
@aziztcf
@aziztcf 3 ай бұрын
Bravo! hackers of the world unite! you have nothing to lose except your toolchains!
@filthyfrankblack4067
@filthyfrankblack4067 2 ай бұрын
This dude WENT OFF.. I don't believe he threw a Milliennial Thinker Amazon meme in there at the end.
@Skyhawk656
@Skyhawk656 3 ай бұрын
This guys my hero, the monopoly Google has over searches hurts my small businesses growth.
@MinkxiTes
@MinkxiTes 3 ай бұрын
Had me hooked in the first 5 minutes. And the part about the self help groups being on facebook is sadly so true.
@Hypnafractyl
@Hypnafractyl 3 ай бұрын
Cory just keeps on getting better somehow, its impressive
@meighan.leenetta
@meighan.leenetta 3 ай бұрын
Cory Doctorow is an international treasure and we must protect this sweet baby angel
@maxjohn6012
@maxjohn6012 2 ай бұрын
Wow I don't think I've ever re-wound a video so many times to take in what had just been said. Amazing talk.
@Ziegler-di7xz
@Ziegler-di7xz 3 ай бұрын
Mad impressed how quickly he picked it up!
@letsRegulateSociopaths
@letsRegulateSociopaths 3 ай бұрын
Hearing Eric Schmidt give students at Stanford the EXACT directions he just mentioned about Ignoring IP laws and "getting the lawyers to clean it up", kinda gives truth to this.
@Ninjatomte
@Ninjatomte 3 ай бұрын
I'm calling it already, this will stand as the best speech of 2024
@loninappleton
@loninappleton 3 ай бұрын
Cory is Canadian. They have an annual National public Speech contest. I don't know if he has ever been invited to it. This speech at DEF would make the Canadians drop their socks. Perhaps someone, a Canadian, can find out more.
@pedrogorilla483
@pedrogorilla483 3 ай бұрын
This is from 2020, look at his face.
@ProtoMan0451
@ProtoMan0451 2 ай бұрын
@@pedrogorilla483 you been drinking the twitter cuck koolaid hard huh? youre the exact person that eats the spoonfed enshittification stuff hes talking about lol
@bsmith4185
@bsmith4185 2 ай бұрын
​@@pedrogorilla483no? defcon 32 was in 2024
@kungfreddie
@kungfreddie 2 ай бұрын
@@bsmith4185so he is just crazy then?
@Patechoc
@Patechoc 3 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤ We all need to reflect on the evolution of IT as this guy does. We can't accept to let it go fuether toward an Orwellian system, or are we there already and how can we move out of it. Let's fight back these capitalist monsters and bring back internet to what it was meant to be: a decentralized communication system that connects everyone.
@mrsmith5114
@mrsmith5114 3 ай бұрын
Cory is a chef and he was cooking in that kitchen.
@cit0110
@cit0110 3 ай бұрын
bless this person🙏🏽 speeches like these are important. they take advantage of engineers, the money is too damn good isn't it.
@Tomasthanes
@Tomasthanes Ай бұрын
"Stop clapping. I need to finish." No, Cory, keep talking as long as you want to. We're listening.
@notaverygoodusername
@notaverygoodusername Ай бұрын
The problem is not just the greed motive, its that for every 1 hacker watching this talk and agreeing there are 10,000 users who just want some flashy distractions.
@TrekkingTabris
@TrekkingTabris 3 ай бұрын
knowledge is power.
@EricAllenGriff
@EricAllenGriff 2 ай бұрын
Spot on Brother, but never forget we made this. Now we need to reinvent our wheel with improvements and get back on track. No social media should ever last more than 5 years. And each generation needs to get closer to individual people and further from Capitalist Greed and Those that want to control everyone!
@Notapizzathief
@Notapizzathief 3 ай бұрын
Everyone needs to like and comment on this to try and boost it. Anyone over the age of 25 ought to remember how much better the Internet was even 10 years ago.
@Perception.mp4
@Perception.mp4 2 ай бұрын
I agree with pretty much everything he said, and as someone in the tech industry I understand this level of frustration deeply, because he's right about how bad the current corporate tech environment is. I also think we need to be strategic and wise about how we approach this problem, because the same way that the tech corporations have abused their power and taken their greed too far, the power behind our movement to undo the abuse can also be taken too far, and that makes us no better than them. Let's make sure we do this right and responsibly!
@JacobCanote
@JacobCanote 3 ай бұрын
Love that the good old wired LXR microphone comes in for the save.
@Ouvii
@Ouvii 3 ай бұрын
(*XLR) Absolutely, it pays to have a backup.
@irx0r
@irx0r 2 ай бұрын
top notch presentation, should've signed up for that EFF newsletter ages ago
@Str0ngSad
@Str0ngSad 3 ай бұрын
"every pirate wants to be an admiral" this dude rocks
@spenapsis
@spenapsis 3 ай бұрын
Amazing, amazing talk. Thanks for putting into words all my suspicions and educating me on more than a few things.
@jack6539
@jack6539 3 ай бұрын
I remember working for DEC. Open systems all the way ftw. And yeah, we got totally fucked over by IBM and M$. I am sure the elders of the internet are looking down at this guy nodding their heads in approval. As am i
@alexsmirnoff8129
@alexsmirnoff8129 Ай бұрын
DEC got fucked from inside by Rob Palmer and his sick romance with Microsoft.
@austrich0
@austrich0 3 ай бұрын
one of the most concise and complete talks on this topic. amazing, thank you!
@DanielMcGregor
@DanielMcGregor 3 ай бұрын
You know what. I'm going to start by helping as many people I can to get the F*** off Windows. It's a small step, but it's a start.
@ThisIsJustADrillBit
@ThisIsJustADrillBit 3 ай бұрын
Oh my god protect this man at all costs ❤😮
@BoDiddlydodah
@BoDiddlydodah 3 ай бұрын
​@@paulbell7654 yeah I thought this was filmed back in 2020 at first. Can't figure why he is wearing a mask now
@n1k0n_
@n1k0n_ 3 ай бұрын
​@@BoDiddlydodah Programming
@SharienGaming
@SharienGaming 3 ай бұрын
@@BoDiddlydodah because conflu always has been a thing and some people are now more conscious of that? would be my guess anyway
@elderlyoogway
@elderlyoogway 3 ай бұрын
Bunch of crazy wackos in the comments, he's scientifically moral enough to make a choice
@MadsterV
@MadsterV 3 ай бұрын
@@paulbell7654 as if an oddly specific dig at Musk of all billionaires and the call to unionize and embrace a big government weren't enough of tells :)
@RiahGreen
@RiahGreen 3 ай бұрын
The most important thing I learned from this talk: Be in and maintain a union!!
@syloui
@syloui 3 ай бұрын
I love how he spent half the talk talking about monopolization and how competition was what once kept industry players in check, only to end the talk with "the answer is unions" instead of giving big tech the middle finger in response to the carrot on a stick of six figure salaries and going off to start the competition that is lacking People don't want enshitification, they just don't think they have a choice. Unions seize your voice for the collective while parasatizing a chunk of your salary for no results. Look no further than the globalized decadence of the "American" auto industry despite the existence of the UAW, or the animation industry despite sagaftra: in the age of globalization they don't have to care about domestic work because they can always outsource to another country willing to work for pennies on the dollar. You beat them with superior products as time in memoriam has proven, like what happened to Bell and IBM. For the history of entrepreneurialism in tech we have far too many "tech bros" looking for exit velocity from selling out start ups to the nearest VC firm shadow ran by big tech anyway; the pirates of silicon valley were subsumed by the sellouts of silicon valley, we need more 70s Apples and Compaqs than FAANG wannabes and that stubborn willingness to stand up to them in the face of hostile take over attempts will be far more effective at saving us than unionizing
@abandonedmuse
@abandonedmuse 3 ай бұрын
What I learned is: We need to GAME the system and screw with their data models by teaching people how their little tricks work. Corporate anarchy.
@nerobaal6655
@nerobaal6655 3 ай бұрын
I find you both incredibly ignorant.
@MadsterV
@MadsterV 3 ай бұрын
Endorsing unions is certainly one of the objectives of this emotional talk, just unsubstantiated and tossed in right when your defenses are low. Top notch work 10/10 would get indoctrinated again.
@DxBlack
@DxBlack 3 ай бұрын
Creates Union, loses jobs to outsourcing...you have rights to collectivized in the same way the employer has every right to shut the business down and move country. Unions are NOT a solution. YOU don't own the company.
@shred69
@shred69 2 ай бұрын
50 minutes of straight to the point, fat free real talk🥇
@Kleptari
@Kleptari 3 ай бұрын
I've thought all of these things! Seeing someone talk about them is fantastic.
@bluetoad07
@bluetoad07 3 ай бұрын
i don't know how i haven't heard of this man before but i absolutely love him
@MacGuffin1
@MacGuffin1 3 ай бұрын
Cory for Prez!!
@Uzotrups
@Uzotrups 2 ай бұрын
"Stop clapping I've to finish" is probably the most trust inducing thing someone can say to me
@leonidas14775
@leonidas14775 3 ай бұрын
Concentration of power corrupts absolutely, no matter what economic system you have
@michaelm1
@michaelm1 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. Finally someone who got to the crux of the problem!
@mk71b
@mk71b 3 ай бұрын
Corruption resulting from the love of money is better contained by capitalism than by communism. But even capitalism is as strong as its weakest link, and that is the self-centeredness of fallen man.
@richardcampbell8685
@richardcampbell8685 2 ай бұрын
@@mk71b except the fact that communism just makes less people wealthy… and by its nature concentrates power into the hands of bureaucrats without the possibility of anything coming to replace it outside a collapse of the system.
@burninglove-x2r
@burninglove-x2r 2 ай бұрын
Check out the book Morals in business. Properly formed Co-operatives are the future of quality goods and services
@xcxbxuudts543dkh
@xcxbxuudts543dkh 3 ай бұрын
i felt like jumping up and punching the roof with a HELL YEAH! ... This is so on the point. Great rant
3 ай бұрын
my fear is even if we disenshittify, big tech would rapidly undisenshittify, triggering a community movement to deundisenshittify, in turn causing the industry to contradeundisenshittify. but on an optimistic note, anticontradeundisenshittifying all this would probably still be an option.
@RictorScale
@RictorScale 3 ай бұрын
I like your thinking, gotta stay ahead of the curve
@recu1
@recu1 3 ай бұрын
FUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!
@Jianju69
@Jianju69 2 ай бұрын
The Enshittification Wars.
@Ctrl_Plus_F
@Ctrl_Plus_F 2 ай бұрын
Cat n mouse games
@amiablereaper
@amiablereaper 2 ай бұрын
If we truly want a world that is not shit, we'll need to make sure that corporations aren't a part of it. Unfortunately, a data center has been built over the old park. If we want the park back, we're going to have to tear down the data center. Whether the occupants like it or not.
@JonJenkins1982
@JonJenkins1982 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, I’m impressed that he did this whole speech without a single drink of water
@rawdawg7995
@rawdawg7995 3 ай бұрын
dude you are fucking amazing at speaking! very gripping. speaking all facts and i learned many things. thank you for playing your part! let me know how to help or help me help us all
@mble
@mble 3 ай бұрын
I love that man. He says exactly what is on my mind.
@happyboom-
@happyboom- 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic talk.
@ellingeidbo8469
@ellingeidbo8469 3 ай бұрын
The means of production is the factory. Programmers ARE the factory. You don't need to seize the means of production, you are the means of production.
@gregmc1270
@gregmc1270 3 ай бұрын
FKING love every version of this talk. platforms be damned, take back the internet and make it smol
@darrellrodabaugh4892
@darrellrodabaugh4892 2 ай бұрын
Legend has it, Chuck Norris watched this video without any rewinding.
@LBPnews1
@LBPnews1 2 ай бұрын
Commenting to give interaction to show the big microwave that this video deserves more
@repairstudio4940
@repairstudio4940 2 ай бұрын
The best speaker ever .... Love it! ❤
@GreenGrapesMilk
@GreenGrapesMilk 3 ай бұрын
I hope more people see this before censors get ahold of it. Especially younger folks who don't remember the internet before 2000's.
@dertythegrower
@dertythegrower 3 ай бұрын
Eli Pariser proved it, 2011.... they definitely bury the best content makers of truth
@richardcampbell8685
@richardcampbell8685 2 ай бұрын
It’s literally be shoved into my face for 3 weeks.
@DSL-33166
@DSL-33166 2 ай бұрын
Educating yourself on history, critical thinking, and just plain smarts is the key
@TheDeveloperGuy
@TheDeveloperGuy 29 күн бұрын
I almost cried, how we got here. Some people said tech talents are paid that much to stay in gigacorps because otherwise they would build competition. How god damn true.
@osakanone
@osakanone 3 ай бұрын
Honestly why I don't run apps. If I can't do it through a browser I get to dictate terms of or in a sandbox I get to see all traffic moving in and out of, I'm not doing it.
@bjangles8718
@bjangles8718 3 ай бұрын
Amen. Also Firefox with adblock
@danoconnell1833
@danoconnell1833 3 ай бұрын
Damn. The emotional energy of a rant, with the persuasiveness of logic. Love this guy.
@CedarAce1000
@CedarAce1000 2 ай бұрын
Commenting to boost engagement :)
@SthenC
@SthenC 2 ай бұрын
My favorite talk I've ever had the pleasure to hear.
@durkawitz
@durkawitz 3 ай бұрын
hoestly the saddest thing is that while this is the most important talk I've seen since the last Cory Doctorow Defcon Talk, I don't know a single person with the attention span to watch it
@ince55ant
@ince55ant 3 ай бұрын
true, the thing i cant stop thinking is: if this talk was actually effective the megacorps mentioned would be suing the venue and organisers (among other punative methods) to silence it. They would be trying their damnedest to make him persona non grata. Hopefully they're just ignorant, overly comfortable in their hegemonic power.
@thesenamesaretaken
@thesenamesaretaken 3 ай бұрын
​@@ince55antone thing megacorps have become good at is appropriating counter culture and cynicism and using them to recapture people
@stephe1506
@stephe1506 3 ай бұрын
Yeah that's a fair worry. But people like me are also watching way more of this than I thought I had the attention span for when I clicked, and I have almost zero experience with computing tools but he's inspiring the sh!t outta me, he's so engaging Maybe the powers that be know of and fear the potential harnessed power of ADHD hyperfocused hackers, might be why they make it hard to get diagnosis and medication. Only half joking 😅
@ginalibrizzi5204
@ginalibrizzi5204 Ай бұрын
I was riveted!
@bouncehouseofficial
@bouncehouseofficial 17 күн бұрын
only criticism is lack of spotlight on companies using H1-B to squeeze tech jobs. cory treaded around that one very carefully.
@Sucsribe
@Sucsribe 8 күн бұрын
i am rajeet i am codar
@nukeout
@nukeout 3 ай бұрын
1:10 Uber used to be cheaper and pay more because of VC-Wallstreet funding not because it was better. You can’t force people to give it more money to burn on an unsustainable business model unfortunately
@lerneninverschiedenenforme7513
@lerneninverschiedenenforme7513 29 күн бұрын
one of the best videos I've seen on youtube recently
@J0R1AN
@J0R1AN 3 ай бұрын
Incredibly well put.
@astarothgr
@astarothgr 3 ай бұрын
I'd read the presentation text on Cory's site, but *holy hell* the actual delivery is so much fun! I love this man too much!
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