Defeating Hugo, 2nd Fold Ending 2 - LISA The Pointless SOTWS: Infinity Unfolds

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Boy is he tough, the new mechanic near the end certainly stumped me a lot before I managed to get it. It was definitely a tense and fun fight though and shout out to the team once again for their amazing work on this expansion.
See (IMO) the best ending in the Infinity Unfolfs mod: • Losing Against Hugo, 2...
Song for 2nd phase is named Wild Sunny, you can find the exact version of it here: • LISA The Grateful OST ...

[@dani.2479]

i like how actually losing this fight is a straight up punishment of removing joels only SP making ability

[@sirkadee]

Hey Atleast no rupture for alex boiii!!!111!111

[@ImFangzBro]

I'll be honest, I prefer this ending. All the stuff you were told was pointless... you managed to find meaning in it. Getting off that island was pointless because there's nowhere better? We're strong enough to make a better place. The pointless violence? It's what made us strong enough to protect our friends.

[@ImFangzBro]

Anyway, here's an achievement: Six Feet Apart: Block Hugo's ultimate attack perfectly.

[@TabascoTurtl]

"All the stuff you were told was Lisa: The Pointless"🔥🔥🔥

[@ryanhernandez1877]

@@TabascoTurtl "Man, Buddy, getting through all those guys, that was really a Lisa: The Painful experience" 🗣💯🔥

[@KillerOfBusting]

​@@ryanhernandez1877buddy hug me or I'll kill myself

[@user-cv3sk6ni5f]

In the end, the real point was the violence we did along the way

[@Airigh]

something I'd like to point out: "He is done for..." That's not "He is dead."

[@vidyabatter]

Hugo having a combo is just ASKING for someone to make a perspective mod.

[@Redman493]

It starts with a perspective mod and then boom, Arnold vs Hugo, Hart vs Hugo and Arnold vs Hugo Hugo's perspective

[@kroga3549]

@@Redman493 I know he already has a moveset form all the insert blank trolls videos, so that has a skeleton to work off of already

[@unfunnyman5371]

@@Redman493 id love to see people making more non franchized characters like jeremy denkins instead of just arnold with big damage moves despite him being beat to shit

[@Redman493]

@@unfunnyman5371 Arnold: Gets beaten to shit Also arnold: *gets up* *inserts combo* *CUADRILLION AND ONE JAB COMBO*

[@unfunnyman5371]

@@Redman493 millionare jab combo

[@kroga3549]

This really feels like the both of them fighting against fate

[@fernandojaramillo8861]

Yesssssdddd

[@Pudding404]

What could've been. Both Alex and Joel vs the game, and infinity unfolds both can end in Alex not getting ruptured at the end. It's like I'm watching different endings to a telltale game.

[@GensokyoBoySlvt]

🙂

[@mouthwide0pen]

Everyones talking about how well Wild Sunny fits, but is anyone gonna talk about how well TIMED this was? The music reached its climax when Hugo was about to do his big attack you have to block, and the music reached the end just as you finished him

[@BasedRamen]

Not gonna lie, I think Wild Sunny works well as a final boss type of theme, especially with Hugo. I also kinda like how unique his attacks look, especially with the fact that they gave him a bit of a combo dial, too.

[@dani.2479]

It is only a matter of time.

[@plentyolsoup5044]

Wow, they really went above and beyond eh?

[@justsomeguy1347]

Absolutely worth playing again even if you’ve played SOTWS. Infinity Unfolds adds a lot of new stuff, bosses, items, new skills for each character. It’s great!

[@MagicalTalkingPony]

I picture Alex blocking Hugo's stabs like the Daigo parry, and that's awesome.

[@youknowpomm]

Best final boss in pretty much any Lisa Game in terms of difficulty and gameplay I'd say.

[@justsomeguy1347]

Unlike the original game or Hopeful where you had a hundred rando rations or heals, you have to ration your heals carefully in this mod especially because of the increase of harder enemies. This fight took me a couple tries, but man it felt good. Every second you’re on edge hoping he doesn’t knock you down

[@youknowpomm]

@@justsomeguy1347 Did you exploit Grame or not in your playthrough (The Correct way to play)

[@ghengiskhan1004]

Honestly couldn't agree more, super engaging and fun to fight, i genuinely just re-fight him sometimes simply for the sake of it and because of the scalpel parries cause they are pretty satisfying to pull off

[@ghengiskhan1004]

@@youknowpomm oh and, not the creator but yeah, another extremely useful tip is to try and beat the stronger franchisers first and use the super weak ones for free heals later on

[@justsomeguy1347]

@@youknowpomm abuse the bench that Alex can sleep at for infinite Alex heals, easy resource saving

[@tamarindo2736]

not gonna lie, that fight was epic

[@thanoid2373]

Good grief this fight is nasty, just beat him but YIKES, he deals a ludicrous amount of damage even with alex having a bunch of defensive gear. You practically need sp restoring items because he will leave you off balance almost 24/7. You also cant tauntroll because he bypasses dodged. Thank goodness I had a bunch of fancy perfume on me because I dont think I would have won otherwise. Also I just noticed JOEL goes out of his way to protect alex when hugo tries to rupture him, but then gets grasped forcing you into the minigame

[@justsomeguy1347]

Absolutely. This fight stumped the hell out of me and took so many tries it’s not even funny. Doesn’t help I only had one fancy perfume as well. Gotta hope that he does the punch or stare ability or you’re dead

[@justsomeguy1347]

Absolutely. This fight stumped the hell out of me and took so many tries it’s not even funny. Doesn’t help I only had one fancy perfume as well. Gotta hope that he does the punch or stare ability or you’re dead

[@thanoid2373]

@@justsomeguy1347 I had like... 3 fancy perfumes, a rando ration some joy, a bottle of dirt water and a empty bottle, and a bottle of soup, and a spiked cola,used em all and managed to win just barely. I'm probably forgetting some of the other items I used but joel was down after the battle

[@devi3221]

Infinity Unfolds inspired me to create my own alternative endings for Pointless. For example, if Joel in the central city finishes off a lot of opponents on his own, then he will already put on shirt 88, instead of Alex...

[@justsomeguy1347]

There’s actually a comment about this by the developer on the Infinity Unfolds game jolt page as a reply to one of the comments asking why Alex had to be 88’d ‘getting the final hit with Joel would prove to be quite difficult, as you only have a limited supply of empty bottles (I believe it is less than 48, which is the amount of kills required for Infinity) which would render the player's effort to kill them with Joel futile. Perhaps it is possible with Geen/Salt Crab, albeit extremely difficult. Regarding the Infinity Route, Joel/Salt Crab/Geen simply do not have the required moveset/variety in skills to survive against the remaining foes on the way for rather simple reasons: Joel - Will fire his gun at the first thing that moves upon becoming Infinite. Geen - Lacks survivability and is rather TP-hungry. Does not have enough defense and will not be able to attack quick enough. Salt Crab - His defense will not help him survive, has decent SP restoration but it goes to waste as his skills have a low damage output. In conclusion, Alex is the only suitable person to become a franchiser, backed up by game balance/lore flow. The others survived mostly by avoiding conflict/living a recluse lifestyle. If they were forced to kill everyone on their way, they would not last long.’

[@devi3221]

@@justsomeguy1347 Probably yes, I agree you are right. Despite Joel's strength, he wouldn't be able to stand up to everyone he met for long. Unless, if his first opponent would be Beltboy =D.

[@devi3221]

@@justsomeguy1347 Although I thought - drawing an analogy with Jenkins and remembering what a huge power Joel has in his characteristics, where he is able to permanently knock out Alex under the effect of Pisses. And everyone who becomes obsessed with the franchise gets insanity, which means if you strip away Joel's basic skills with Gunplay, Joel, being fold, is still capable of killing and maiming people. p.s. I am writing through a translator, I apologize if my text was incomprehensible at some points.

[@purplesmart4942]

@@devi3221 iirc, Joel's huge attack stat is litteraly from the gun, you can just never unequip it to check it

[@freyathedragon899]

Although, you could say that Joel is one hell of a pistol-whipper

[@youknowpomm]

You really got the mother of all syncs

[@ness6714]

I want a fan game where your character goes up amd down ledges like Jason does.

[@colinhorstmann1749]

Such a cool fight

[@thanoid2373]

Does "the doctor"'s max sp debuff last permanently? Or does it go away after the battle

[@boris536]

It goes away after a few turns but there aren't any more encounters in this route so it shouldn't matter anyway.

[@teckdeck6480]

I know there is going to be a Hugo perspective mod in the future there is one for everything

[@djangogames3720]

Guess not.

[@tehcrusher]

what happened to alex's eyes in the beginning i dont remember that happening also what's up with those victory sprites?

[@fluorideinthechat7606]

Part of Scholar of the Wilbur Sin has different status portraits when each party member’s afflicted with a status ailment (Joel was afflicted with Weird, explaining his pose), and new trauma status effects that are permanent until treated with a Trauma Kit (Alex had 3rd Degree Burns).

[@justsomeguy1347]

If you’re talking about when Alex opens his eyes at the beginning, this is a new ending route in the expansion mod Infinity Unfolds which is an expansion of Scholar of The Wilbur Sin.

[@calmspectator8573]

What is the song of the second phase? It sounds awesome!

[@justsomeguy1347]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpnTnp2edpyIj7c Here you go!

[@TheTrueBuckets]

I noticed you got a move called ‘finger gun’ for Joel, im not too far into this mod but, how do you get it? As it seems like a useful skill to have when not debuffing or taunt+roll-ing

[@justsomeguy1347]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3nIpXdmarmYobs Not sure if youtube lets me post links. If not: Watch LISA The Pointless: Scholar of the Wilbur Sin - Trades and go to rare fang. Defeat the guy behind the snake. Also, once you unlock all of Joel’s tactics, make sure to read the book of tactics for something special

[@ghengiskhan1004]

Yo man nice gameplay! also I have a question, how did u get both steadfast stance and cowboy stance at once? Does the mod change the ways to obtain them?

[@justsomeguy1347]

Hey, thanks for watching! Full disclosure I edited my save file so that I could get both since I wanted to try out all the skills. Sorry to disappoint you! I definitely found cowboy stance to be used much more than steadfast.

[@ghengiskhan1004]

Oh nice! I heard its been buffed but I picked steadfast because it seemed more useful at first, cowboy looks really underrated

[@justsomeguy1347]

@@ghengiskhan1004 Yep, cowboy stance now enhanced bottle damage which is far more useful than guaranteeing to go first!

[@theSars]

@@justsomeguy1347 is it okay if i like... borrow the safe file too? or how did you edit it? i want to try out all the attacks as well tbh And tbh the Debate of Steadfast or Cowboy Stance depends on how you play, if you are like me and suck at item management, then Steadfast is a sure way of healing Alex in the early game which tbh is worth the issue for me at least

[@justsomeguy1347]

@@theSars Sure, I’m happy to hand you over a save file. You can hit me up on discord at RemRem#3430 and I can help explain things!

[@Captain_Crabmeat]

this is really really cool, how do you block the stabs tho? is it just pressing space or are there different buttons or timings or?

[@justsomeguy1347]

You have to tap rapidly using the left, right and up arrow keys to whatever the direction the knife comes from

[@Captain_Crabmeat]

@@justsomeguy1347 ooooo, any idea what happens if you fail this little qte? does joel just take damage or get ruptured or something else?,

[@justsomeguy1347]

@@Captain_Crabmeat If you miss, Alex takes damage and bleeds until he drains all his hp. Once downed, Hugo will start attacking Joel and once Joel is down then the alternate ending occurs (as seen in my other video).

[@Captain_Crabmeat]

@@justsomeguy1347 aaa i see, thanks for the info!

[@theSars]

Okay I fear that this fight might be impossible for me, the ammount of items I may spend before this fight, but. I'll do my best. What were the items that you needed to find to get all those skills? what level were you?

[@justsomeguy1347]

This fight is definitely tough, it took me a crap ton of tries to beat it and some lucky RNG (getting a stun in, having Hugo only stare at you instead of using his attacks). Definitely spamming bottles with Joel + cowboy stance is a very good strat. Don't bother using Joel's Sapphire coat as Hugo can attack through dodges. Don't use disarming chop on him either as he picks it right back up for free and still has his attacks anyway. The set up i'm using is: Alex lvl 13: Perpetual ring (best weapon in the game, you can look up AlterReaper's Equipment guide if you don't know how to get it), Golden Brolex (from defeating Georgy by snatching the Brolex off of him (unequip it from him before he leaves the party)), Football helmet (looted from the corpse of the football guy near Lester, gives you Goat Headbutt Ex. NOTE: There is a better helmet you can grab, but the boss is tough. If you head towards the area past the boom gate to the people watching the TVs, after 24+ kills you can interact with the football player on the right. He will yield you the All-star helmet, which is really good and makes you cool), Zein Ka Rags (Killing El Kobra the snake wrestler guy past the red snake that drops the rare fang when it becomes hostile), and medal of honor ( defeating Borislav, gives you super cool) Joel lvl 12: King brand necklace (gives him cool, helpful for HP regen. You get it from talking to the guy standing next to pole at the area where Chriss Bellucci is originally), Miner's helmet (in a hole hidden in the mine, increases defense greatly) and Doctor's Coat found in a secret area near the dessert area which increases max hp and gives regen as well (hard to explain, so once again watch AlterReaper's videos) General tips: - Cowboy stance is obtained by defeating the fishmen boss at garbage island and trading in the weird tape you get for the Toilet Paper. - The petroleum firebomb can be obtained by trading in the malicious stereo, watch AlterReaper's equipment guide again to help find it. -Throwing bottles of blood at him is also good, I ran out at this point but it helps. - If you're having trouble with the mechanic near the end, all you have to is rapidly tap the left, up or right arrow keys with whatever the direction the blade comes from. It isn't as hard as it looks. - As seen in the video, phase 1 Hugo does not attack until his health below 1000 in which he will go dangerous and you have to stun or disarm him. Use this time to set up - have Joel use scheme and then cowboy stance right before you disarm Hugo. - Never forget the power of Joel's single out. Weird reduces -20% ATK., -30% DEF and Wary reduces it by -70% DEF. - Try to make sure he's always bleeding by using axe kick - You can get bottles of coffee by using the instant coffee you find with bottles of water. These restore hp and sp by 75%! - You fully restore HP and SP when you sit down at the campfire. Don't waste heals beforehand. -Also; there's a really good barter you can get that gives you really strong equipment. If you look up "SOWTS how to get the best merchants" you'l see a video on it. Goodluck!

[@theSars]

@@justsomeguy1347 damnit I used the paper scroll to instead give myself steadfast. Which has been a carry through the game. Really really thinking about resetting my progress so I redo it, since I feel underleveled. Besides, I needed to do some fights in Garbage Island, never did the rando tasks and failed massively to get through some fights by myself. Which was a shame.

[@justsomeguy1347]

@@theSars you could always get yourself as close as possible to 47 kills (not 48 as it triggers the 3rd fold ending) and then after being Arnold, you can choose to fight instead of jumping and you will gain a lot of xp from fighting them and won’t go to 3rd fold either. It’s tough so to cheese it I had Joel use play dead and just throw bottles. They can’t hit you if Joel is playing dead, only if they throw bottles or use magic attacks.

[@plentyolsoup5044]

@@justsomeguy1347 who's the football guy, I've never seen him

[@justsomeguy1347]

@@plentyolsoup5044 kzbin.info/www/bejne/boDGhXewmNqVkLM This guy

[@notoriousp.o.g6773]

he got his shit push in

[@PalisadeDipper]

I lost against Hugo but then Joel fired his gun at hugo and killed him, is this supposed to happen normally?

[@justsomeguy1347]

There’s two endings against Hugo post fold 0 and 1, one where you lose to Hugo (not disarming or stunning him when he becomes dangerous) and the ending in this video. The one you got is the other ending!

[@djangogames3720]

Yuup. If youre nice enough to joel throughout youre play through (Pick the correct dialouge options) he'll up his gun and shoot the fatso.

[@thebowler5506]

Am I the only one where in the parry section it seems to just straight up not work, like I parry one and then on the next one, it just doesn't work when I hit the arrow

[@justsomeguy1347]

You need to spam the arrow keys quickly, but if you're spamming it and it's not working then i'm not sure

[@sirkadee]

how the hell you do the attack where you protect joel from the stabs? also suprisingly his dangerous doesn't instakill but rather lowers your health y A LOT (tried to stun him)

[@justsomeguy1347]

Spam the left, up or right arrow keys in the direction that the scalpel comes from. Keep spamming until you block it

[@sirkadee]

@@justsomeguy1347 alr but the stabs appear in a random location? or the pattern is always the same

[@justsomeguy1347]

@@sirkadee Pretty sure it's random, just keep trying and you'll get it! It always activates when he gets below 2000hp so you can prepare

[@sirkadee]

@@justsomeguy1347 alr

[@sirkadee]

@@justsomeguy1347 update: i finally sended hugo's ass back to the endless wastes tho i could have avoided the 3rd degree burn from borislav ngl

[@quinnholloway5400]

Wait, how'd you get both Steadfast and Cowboy stances? I thought you only could get one

[@justsomeguy1347]

Hey, thanks for watching! Full disclosure I edited my save file so that I could get both since I wanted to try out all the skills. Sorry to disappoint you! I definitely found cowboy stance to be used much more than steadfast.

[@kroga3549]

@@justsomeguy1347 I really like how they buffed cowboy stance, to take advantage of all the new bottles.

[@stinkjsshitpostaccount6744]

Where did you get the moves for Alex? I didn't get the major irises and the stronger goat headbutt. How much do u level up to?

[@justsomeguy1347]

You can get goat headbutt EX if you loot the football helmet off the infintised football player that appears near Lester's once you get enough kills. Also, if you head towards the area past the boom gate to the people watching the TVs, after 24+ kills you can interact with the football player on the right. He will yield you the All-star helmet, which is even stronger and makes you cool. Major iris is obtained once you get enough kills and levels as well

[@stinkjsshitpostaccount6744]

​@@justsomeguy1347 How many kills or at least what level would I be to finally have the major irise?

[@user-fruit_ass07]

wait how to block in scene after Joel?

[@justsomeguy1347]

Spam the left, up or right arrow keys in the direction that the knife comes from

[@user-fruit_ass07]

@@justsomeguy1347 thanks

[@ashtoncharles7035]

How do you initiate the fight?

[@justsomeguy1347]

This is part of the Scholar Of The Wilbur Sin mod of Pointless when you reach fold 2. Fold 0, 1, 2 and 3 all have different endings you can get for Hugo.

[@sonicletrol4501]

H-how did you get finger gun for joel?

[@justsomeguy1347]

Fight El Kobra (he’s the man who’s past the red snake that you kill for the rare fang batter item)

[@sonicletrol4501]

@@justsomeguy1347 The guy that got laser fingers that shoot a member of the gang that have black and white straps is this that guy?

[@justsomeguy1347]

@@sonicletrol4501 kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3nIpXdmarmYobs Not sure if youtube lets me post links. If not: Watch LISA The Pointless: Scholar of the Wilbur Sin - Trades and go to rare fang. It's the guy behind the snake.

[@sonicletrol4501]

@@justsomeguy1347 ohhhh that one thx

[@superdogetubbie6043]

defeat him on 3rd fold 🚎

[@NotACutie]

Every hugo fight has alex with 3rd degree burns, what gives?

[@justsomeguy1347]

There’s a secret boss fight prior to this that you can fight, this boss is tough and high chance of causing 3rd degree burns (you can’t dodge fire attacks). Look up LISA SOTWS secret boss if you’re curious.