Defending to River Check Raises

[@branchtana315]

Shout out to a fellow Shark Tank player in Columbus! I've been playing there 4-5 days per week the past couple months. The games are incredible. From this lady's voice, I think I might know who the caller is. I'll have to ask her the next time I see her there. As far as her open sizing, nothing wrong with it in this specific card room. I default to $!5 raise-first-in , but there are plenty of lineups where $30-$40 opens are standard. A lot of these games are $1-$2 in name only, as they play more like $2-$5 or even $5-$10.She played the hand well, and given my experience playing in this room there's a much higher river check-raise frequency than in normal $1-$2. I'm not even sure I could have mustered up a call on the river though. NH!

[@patrick_kyker]

Bart "I've never seen a player bet turn with QJ then check river when it gets there." Welcome to 1c/2c games.

[@Hoetobeajew]

Theres definitely a vibe in some cash games where guys consider women scared money and when she bets so small he thinks he can blow her off a weak 2p. AJdd has to be the best hand to call with here, even better than any possible 2p bc he never takes that line with 2p

[@speakinfaxonly21]

AJ and AQ being the best hands to call down with. Especially the diamond and or heart variety. Way Better than 2p

[@philjohnston8531]

limp calling 40 at 1-2...I already like this place

[@JMacSD]

ns. ALL 3 limpers called at 20 BB. She also said that in a hand soon after, she raised to $60 over 3 limpers and got 5 callers. I can't even imagine how that could happen.

[@jamiepaul2798]

This is pretty standard in Texas 1/2 games. I've straight opened to $50 against 2 limpers and they both called. It's just different when everyone is deep stacked.

[@chenxilin6380]

Timing tell or not, getting x-r there going thin is NOT fun to be in, even with the timing tell the risk-reward there is almost neutralized. Props to caller for actually sticking to her guts and being proven correct despite against all odds

[@totalhysteria]

It's fun when you have the nuts 😆 sometimes I bet thin on the river in pos to induce bluffraises from other regs.

[@mightypensword]

i've seen this play before. he's upset that you got lucky on the river and feels like the pot should be his, so he tries to take it back. cool hand

[@luisrosario363]

I played here about a month ago, chopped a tourney. From talking to the regs 1/2 here plays like a 2/5 sometime a 5/10. Very well organized poker room, great dealers too.

[@JohnJohn-ut4qk]

Barts the GOAT! His hand reading abilities is through the roof!

[@la3424]

So is his casino & card room knowabouts

[@payloh_3328]

Lol

[@MattAronowitz]

Perhaps. But don’t they email him the entire hand beforehand?

[@mightypensword]

@@MattAronowitz it doesn't really matter if he can stay objective. And, he's not pegging a hand, he's pegging a range of hands

[@ekw555]

"125 could be a very large bet at this level" probably not in a game where 3 people limp-call $40 pre-flop!

[@JeoJetsonmusic]

And it’s not really 1-2 if it’s 1500 effective

[@speakinfaxonly21]

The quici chaotic bet usually indicates significant strength. Whenever I see it, it's with the nuts. The never count it out just grab chips and throw them in..they want to make it look like a bluff. Never is. Surprised it was here.

[@jc624]

To be fair, AJdd is a much better river call than AcTx AsTx. But I would never bluff catch vs someone who's limp calling 40 with K3 K4s. So this hand is a one-off generally. A more comfortable play would've been just to bet 1/3 pot on the river to get a snap call by Kx Ax, since that way villain doesn't necessarily need to turn his hand into a bluff.

[@freewayrick1]

that's the biggest 1-2 games I've heard of....4 callers $40 preflop

[@imonlyheretoarguewithidiots]

She makes it $40 pf at a $1-$2 game and all 3 limpers call. 😂 Is this in fucking Texas??

[@ballerlarva4214]

Generally speaking, dont.

[@moneymikz]

750 blinds deep wow that’s kinda crazy

[@zacveatch6478]

Unblocking flushes and blocking straights. Might make the hero call

[@bangerrr569]

Dixie Rect bruh u good??

[@Stockhandle123]

Here is how you handle river check raises you basically just always fold.

[@totalhysteria]

Why?

[@Stockhandle123]

Hysteria because they always have it, those that don’t stick out like a sore them, either because they’re good or maniacal.

[@totalhysteria]

Aha, you mean vs fun players? Got it. I love to trap nutted hands and x/r on the river but also have made several bluffs in that spot to be balanced :) but yeah, it all depends who you play against.

[@BigBadVVolf22]

seems like a perfect spot for a hero call...diamonds w/ a jack is about as good of a bluff catcher as you'll get here

[@SenorJoeBiden]

Why do diamonds matter? You mean because it’s likelier the opponent has clubs or spades?

[@BigBadVVolf22]

@@SenorJoeBiden exactly. You unblock missed draws and block made hands

[@xplizitremix]

Instead of going for thin value... I feel a check would have caused myself so much less headaches

[@SenorJoeBiden]

Less headaches= less money made long-term

[@nathanmills3539]

Never played live, but these open sizes seem fucking ridiculous. Is this standard for live? Do I need to implement this if I play live?

[@WillPage]

Wasn't thin value for long. BOOM!

[@oOEmberOo]

Thats what she said!

[@KurreKlyyvarsson]

thicc value

[@patrick_kyker]

V checked river thinking H was going to bluff at river since ace hit. He was value betting not bluffing.

[@WillPage]

Are you serious? She so often has AQ, AJ or even A9 here.

[@Gos1234567]

FFS youre as bad as the "hero" in Rounders,"i think youre bluffing,so im all in"

[@leviray4283]

Great call in

[@bobsamson6557]

If the caller is out there, what are the COVID precautions the shark tank is taking? I used to play there often but now I’m in Canal Winchester so it’s a bit of a drive for me.

[@windy619]

Well THISSSSS is interesting. I laughed out loud. Felt the same.

[@CanadianLoveKnot]

The guys line makes no sense, and the fact that we have a Jack makes me even more inclined to call. The guys hand looks like a K, up until he raise, which made me think he had a busted draw like Q9s/c, JQ, etc...there's not many hands would stab turn, and then check-raise the river.

[@traviscoates6878]

What card room did she say this was? I live in Ohio and am DYING to play. Casino poker rooms still shut down

[@aaronl614]

Shark Tank

[@brucejsanchez]

Sound like he decided to play like he had qj at last min. He told a bad story

[@nathanielmorgan3592]

Being able to discern when you made an incorrect play when receiving a positive outcome is a CRITICAL skill in poker. Hero made many assumptions about villains range with insufficient justification causing her to make an extremely thin call. This is already the bottom of the value range, no need to defend vs a decent size check raise. Unless you had a VERY specific read and were betting specifically to induce this is borderline spew. We rarely knows our opponents ranges, only our own.

[@joemoon5227]

Often splassed pots are a bluff

[@MoreThanBlocks.]

I need to get myself a poker girlfriend.

[@SenorJoeBiden]

Therefore you can go broke together. So romantic.

[@DJS8]

$1500 effective at 1-2, "can you just give me the region??" lol

[@mikeob6325]

with 2 fl draw out there not 8 outs...check on river,,, board too dangerous

[@tankprimetime313]

When's Ohio opening there card rooms?

[@WillPage]

You would think the V could pretty easily have A10, A8 or A7 in this spot too. There aren't many hands you beat: A9, A6, KQ, KJ, J10, Q10 or 910 maybe. Well done on the live read ... Cheers to mugs playing like mugs ;)

[@brucejsanchez]

When they all call no matter what just raise small

[@xm6389]

First

[@andimonte-2568]

She has a beautiful voice! Please' call in again ...