Defense is Officially Broken in Rise of Nations

How defense is op in Rise of Nations Roblox. Today we shall be discussing the new updates and how it's affected the doctrines. Just like my previous doctrine video and other guides, prepare for yapping sessions.
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00:00 - Intro
00:58 - Forts
04:19 - The Doctrines
08:07 - Spec OP
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[@BlazingFlame69]

Swiss mains are like Dark souls bosses now bruh

[@Sasgewo]

real a switz made tons of artillery and even with a few aircraft crarriers are couldn't destrow or weak them

[@BlazingFlame69]

@@Sasgewo Yeah fr. Atleast Iran is in Asia which can be ignored until late game but its actually unacceptable when a country in the center for Europe becomes this op.

[@Sasgewo]

@@BlazingFlame69 italy is the mostly the only one to invade it

[@microscopicallysmall]

i was once a switzerland player before this update and spammed forts everywhere i also made artillery and got aa and had air superiority with ONE plane (a fighter) and also switzerland was untouched for the ENTIRE TIME

[@DylanMiglorisi]

And then when a Swiss player beats you there going to be a ass and say skill issue and down right ruin the experience of the game

[@neaksm9558]

As a small country player, I see this as an absolute win.

[@user-xm6tt6ks5i]

pov: you are liechstein vs switzerland with mountain specialization...

[@themuchachos4168]

Yeah this very good against spammers

[@Hakim122-hc9tm]

@@themuchachos4168yeah and very good for campers to use

[@the-rogue-shogun]

I feel like a good counter/balance for this is to make different levels of fortification, like, Lightly Fortified, Fortified, and Heavily Fortified. Heavily Fortified would have the same level of defense buff as forts now, I'd believe this is a good idea cuz you can still use forts but it would simply be much less effective, and also to increase upkeep.

[@BlazingFlame69]

that is a bad idea trust me

[@EvilRecaps]

@@BlazingFlame69 ok then how do nerf forts then?

[@BlazingFlame69]

@@EvilRecaps Undo all changes done to the forts AND make arty destroy them

[@EvilRecaps]

@@BlazingFlame69 makes sense but that was just bring an new toxic meta artillery spam which is already a thing but this will make it 2x worse and will cause way more artillery vs artillery wars

[@Katesify]

Tfw forts in every city WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?

[@eyezlordd]

That French strategy going to be even stronger

[@hi_lol1912]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@greenedleaf2481]

this is my best dream ever to spam forts rather than 3 cities every time '.'

[@Francs_edit]

​@@greenedleaf2481Me too

[@DrGrinch-rn5kc]

I do that in every server I play in now

[@greenrifters8552]

bro i was playing as tajikistan to take what russia and china needs to annoy them and i tried the specialization doctrine with max miliutary spending and good leaders, my infantry were starting at 275% XP WOW THEY WERE VETERANS WITHOUT EVEN FIGHTING

[@user-zh8ck5mf2g]

Now it’s impossible to invade player with forts on all cities and resistance tech in the late game unless u spam bombers which are going to destroy forts but scorch cities so its going to take even more attrition to conquer the nation

[@AntiBalloon]

Not really, if you have 400 tanks max spending, maneuver warfare branch, basic chief of general and general along with basic panzer leader you can easily take any city. Without forts and resistance tech I believe that set up can take London

[@theapple3160]

@@AntiBalloonthe anti-tank in question:

[@AntiBalloon]

@@theapple3160 I mean then just get more to kill the troops too or have back up

[@JemezoXD]

They should make forts like roads, now now i know some people might do funny shit with it, but it would be better since irl its more practical on making defense lines instead of the defense being in a single city. And make it so you can upgrade the defense of the defense line. Why lines? So i can make back up lines incase of a breakthrough over the border defense lines

[@Lil_Sammy1]

Suggest this

[@AntagonistBacon911]

Tbh I can relate at this video when I played as Switzerland build fort on every city made artillery tanks and when UK tired to invade me with 7.5m it all died in just a second giving UK a war exhustoin💀

[@erickramirez6554]

You were in a faction

[@AntagonistBacon911]

@@erickramirez6554 naw mate I'd win it's a 1v1 broskey 💀

[@erickramirez6554]

@@AntagonistBacon911 I was Denmark

[@mrun-gamer9008]

When offense update. And of course hyperant makes the most balanced updates ever in a very balanced game.

[@miguelpaulo3125]

i think hyperant is buffing defense, because people leave the game to early

[@ceilingfan9659]

People mostly leave the game because A) didn’t get the country they wanted B) certain country that they hoped to be an AI is a player C) someone is hogging all the trades

[@miguelpaulo3125]

@@ceilingfan9659 and also because of they cant win a war on the late game due to how overpowered defense is.

[@ceilingfan9659]

@@miguelpaulo3125 I’m mostly just covering early game reasons for leaving

[@parmjitkaur5675]

Me omw to main Iran now:

[@Deutchland_1914]

I DIDN'T KNOW

[@catfacecat.]

I was an iran main before, true... some good name

[@Syeles]

Im a Serbia main 😂

[@talan_rokasanyi]

Bro im hungary main 💀

[@DarkSailor5]

bro massed attack needs a buff so bad, its literally the worst doctorine in the game :(

[@SebastianStrss]

Either that or Manoeuvre warfare and Static lines need a nerf

[@DarkSailor5]

@@SebastianStrss no they are already good, but massed attack is even worse than having no doctorine

[@joe_tango]

Fr they did massed attack so dirty

[@DarkSailor5]

@@joe_tango wait did they nerf it in the upgrade?

[@xijinping880]

@@DarkSailor5 i use massed attack all the time its op if you need mp

[@moistisprobdead]

Artillery should definitely be able to destroy fortifications.

[@thirdhandlv4231]

I think the fix to the fort thing is just like triple the price or something to not make it viable early on and not beating any offensive superpower a complete walk in the park.

[@newprussianballmapping242]

Wait, I realized, if you form Yugoslavia and conquer like huge amounts of land with big population and rough terrain the modifier of Yugoslavia increases Resistance so it would BE WAY BROKEN

[@johnsementa9844]

in my opinion theres another way to counter forts. ballistic missiles. Not nuclear missiles that require oodles and boodles of research, but kinda like the V1 rocket or something of that variety. This would have the effect of heavily damaging troops, and the city that they inhabit leaving the defender with the choice to stand and die, or run and lose the city

[@LOLE_Editz]

It's a good day when Amandus finally posts

[@Requiemispro]

omg is the game alive again been a long time and now am back and i am seeing ton of successful ron youtubers keep it up👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@Country-Shark]

This channel is quality > quantity

[@AztecAmal]

i finally dont have to pick 3 cities for every fort les go breh!!

[@Intrusion498]

Amandus not taking a year to upload?what is this madness?!

[@tetraxis3011]

I once went in a war with 3 allies against Sokoto caliphate, and the war was a pain because most of his cities were fortified.

[@darkmatteranimatoin1797]

As a mass attack player the only thing I want is that they remove the training time nerf like what the hell man it takes a decade to make my troops decent

[@manos6508]

I built forts in all of my cities as yugoslavia in 2089, once I took over europe with a 300+ naval unit navy. And the forts saved me from british, japanese, russian and arabic invasions. It was the whole server vs me, forts were already powerful

[@promitrius]

dam 2089

[@GollyGoshMan69]

Always gonna be a good day when Amandus uploads

[@hmmhmm9323]

i remember my infantry spawning with 250+ experience with the specialization doctrine lol

[@N3O_4]

This as Iran or Norway with forts are craxy

[@Shotgun4426]

they should make specialization for specific biomes be 2x attack for that biome instead of defense for that biome, that way it makes specialization kinda an attacking doctrine.

[@what-dk5ul]

Fort cost should scale with the size of the country. For example, forts on all cities for like a kyrgyzstan player would cost 30000 but the same amount of cities for a usa player would be like 500 million. I like the idea of keeping forts on all cities but if you made it expensive it would be hard for small countries to defend against giants

[@MichaelShumate-bk3tu]

I never knew this. I kept using the three forts a time like a idiot ;-:

[@AggressiveSkunk]

I've always been a spec user so this is fantastic lol

[@BidnerBrown]

Overpowered loo the defense is impossible to beat now

[@LCFSCENSE]

time to main the DRC now💀💀

[@TysonLewis-ve1xe]

Someone played as canada, invaded norway sweden and poland then fought the USA and spammed forts everywhere. Completely broken

[@alonzodrake6461]

For someone who always choose static lines doctrine and used to building forts everywhere and prefers to stay neutral always. I see this as a nice upside to my way of becoming like Rogal Dorn.

[@taintsomonkey9516]

BRUUUUUUUUUH WHAT OMG I didnt know this update happend this is insane a superpower can not be defeted now

[@hoodiegamer331]

One year to make a fort is kinda crazy.. I suggest that the speed be based off the population of the city, Example a city with 1k population could take a week or two to build while a city with a million could take months

[@xijinping880]

a city with a higher population would build a fortress faster not slower..

[@ceilingfan9659]

@@xijinping880a larger city would have more complications with fortifying it and would take a larger land area

[@bluespeedrail7731]

i am a NOOB in rise of nations and was playing cameroon and I fortified my capital and had like 160k troops stacked on it 400 tanks and that was it and this nigeria player attacked with 200k troops and they instantly died (my cap was the only city I had last, also they were all untrained lol)

[@TK-ye1uq]

hyperant trying not to make his game a noskillfest: impossible

[@arcticchain5264]

You came back, and i came

[@jerudo66]

I legit thought I had found a glitch in the Matrix when I saw I could unlock the first option of doctrines for free 😭

[@m3tactical393]

Switzerland is probably the new meta country now

[@-tutle-]

Or there could be a different level of forts with each stats. The higher the level the fort is the higher the cost and time to build will be.

[@Paleoconservative_American]

Honestly they should start making forts ridiculously expensive like 1 million upkeep for 1 fort

[@epicwafflesticks1415]

i like troop throwing and long wars anyways

[@thirdhandlv4231]

I kind of realised this after sending 200k maxed out tanks (WITH MAXED MANEUVER WARFARE) into Japan and them getting completely wiped, granted, i split them up a lot which made it easier but still, i had 3.2k divisions getting deleted one by one, thankfully that whole war was just a joke before i left so i didn't really care.)

[@L0ngb0wCaravel]

200k tanks? Is that a late game server

[@thirdhandlv4231]

@@L0ngb0wCaravel Yeah i had been playing for like 20 years, huge Nepoleonic Empire.

[@AntiBalloon]

Not too sure how that lost, did you have panzer leader, chief of staff, general, ideology buffs, military spending, tech and an offensive doctrine? Also did Japan have support like ships artillery and planes

[@thirdhandlv4231]

Yes my OP tanks carried me through the game.​@@AntiBalloon

[@ApplebobDaGreat]

when are they going to fix attrition, in no world does a max trained army die from just marching or capturing an undefended city, even in deserts and tundras. It makes sense for mountains and jungles but otherwise it’s just annoying

[@SebastianStrss]

Just deal with it, attrition takes in count for supply too so if your marching 1,000,000 soldiers into some Siberian village, of course loads of people would die. You can always use Transport Planes.

[@ApplebobDaGreat]

@@SebastianStrss fair point

[@SebastianStrss]

@@ApplebobDaGreat Lol okay, I find it annoying too and all but ig just dont go for tundras in large amounts

[@ansonnong8850]

Static lines is actually better with artillery stacking and guerilla warfare on

[@Abxoutbrxo]

God Bless Hyperant

[@Bacon-Robloxian]

I also like defending and I can see this update is W for me (for me)

[@cakermazer9256]

i feel like they should do something similar to hoi4 and make forts have levels, the higher level the longer to build

[@dinosmart1111]

Wait I’m confused. Which doctrine should I use? Static Lines or Specialization?

[@talan_rokasanyi]

Hey amandus can you do a very fast xp tutorial? 😀

[@sethhenty6128]

give it a tiered system instead of going hyper expensive tier one is the current expenses but doesnt do much like 10 percent buff etc etc

[@maple129]

To be honest, forts should be limited to 5-8 forts per selection, 3 felt too little and too tedious to select but any amount is just too far

[@perlasandoval7883]

finally l, being monaco now means I don't get invaded by france every bloody time

[@fwfrwawfefwfefwf]

so you know its crazy adout defnese like that so if you use the neutral act is get many more harder to ivande the neutral act is op than research when other player ivande country so build fort and use neutral act and static lines that make you so insane defnese if you play small country or smth (this comments close in 5 weeks)

[@aguywhoplaysgames]

Not now babe, Amandus just uploaded

[@geraldoh9090]

we're back to 2019 where people could spam forts but if they did so they would be in deficit because they were crazy expensive to maintain.

[@ShiftedRy69]

Make a bomber troop like hand grenades and such to counter forts

[@thatguywithoutadoubt]

Today, Iran has officially became my favorite nation in RON.

[@Shadow-tu7yb]

can we nerf artillary it kills navey and prolly airforce not to mention its just op also nerf anti air, whats the point of fighters if u have anti air?

[@adult.hither]

they should buff massed attack by giving mp ALOT more and decrease the starting expirience a bit more and Idk abt 1mil a fort maintaince more like 1.5x the city population

[@TK-ye1uq]

massed is already balanced fairly well

[@EvilRecaps]

@@TK-ye1uq no it isnt its the worst one by far trash training time and you arent getting any buffs at all so you will lost every battle

[@TK-ye1uq]

@@EvilRecaps yeah good luck dealing with 40m skull deathstacks late game

[@Egg-ce2si]

that turkey player raging in the chat at 3:54

[@promitrius]

" give me man power i need man power"

[@Egg-ce2si]

@@promitrius fr

[@Bigzthegreat]

Who turned on The Great War Redux? Wait, our tanks look cool now.

[@giz8527]

Best update In a long time honestly.

[@_jawad.jabir.]

Static is still the best in europe, unless you have a huge eco for mauever

[@pierino1003]

as a guy who likes defending (i like playing swiss, mexico, poland and mongolia) i love this update, making forts as swiss was a PAIN. you had to select 3 cities at a time out of the cities that are 2 meters apart

[@the_quietobserver]

just hold shift while selecting defense was already easy before this update, now its even easier

[@Hg-vl6fk]

You like defending, but this update practically nerfed static lines?

[@pierino1003]

@@Hg-vl6fk yes, it did, but there is specialization, and static lines is still pretty op

[@negative_1831]

America can easily spam forts now, i tested in a private server and it only costs like 33m to upkeep which is nothing for america. Stupidly broken + specialization buff is annoying asf

[@SebastianStrss]

It should increase like the Spendings, depending on your tax income, the more expensive the upkeep is. Sure it doesn't make any logical sense but yk, it will somewhat balance it like invading the amazons in Brazil.

[@promitrius]

@@SebastianStrss its because of population

[@gamepower4708]

i wouldnt add such a long building time for forts. maybe. diffrent tiers. like in hoi4. make it that there are 5 tiers of forts where the last one is als strong als the standard rn.

[@rasmushedberg3655]

7:15 Damn bro. relax btw forts should be more expensive the higher troop capacity it has ( 10 million per 10k soldiers it can hold) in my opinion

[@Fitler12345]

Even if they nerf it I’m still going to make forts in all my city’s

[@bluenightrblx]

8.38k sub.

[@arifilhan9308]

so it tank or infantry better now

[@Sir_Zigy]

Forts should have levels like in hoi4.

[@observers1950]

They should make forts need steel to build them

[@immentallyinsane3324]

they should add missiles ngl

[@newprussianballmapping242]

imagine norway, iran, switzerland and afghanistan players happiness

[@teatimegaming9006]

If hyperant fixes the forts thanks this guy

[@No-one7376]

Skip to second to last paragraph if you don't want to hear me rambling. I'm not kidding when I say this. I was North American Union and I took over Africa, Central America, and North America, and I had the "Reinvigorate American Imperialism" buff ready (Haven't used it yet, I had all the prerequires though, I was just saving it to when I felt like I needed it) and I was number one globally. I also was allied with the Qing Dynasty which was the 2nd highest country in the server and we decided to team up against the third country that had a player (Franco-British Empire). Now keep in mind I had my tanks and infantry maxed out as well as the best policies and had most of my political research branch done. The Franco Empire was mostly an economic power and didn't do any real war except for helping me and the Qing Dynasty kill Russia (yes, we decided to betray him). The Qing Dynasty was also on par with me but didn't have the air and naval power I did. I'll keep a 2 hour war somewhat short. I tried to attack his African cities but that hombre put forts on ALL OF HIS CITIES IN THE WORLD and put arty and AA on them so I literally could not get any cities. I only managed to capture like 4 cities that didn't have any AA/arty and I bombed the fort into oblivion so the cities didn't have the fort anymore, and even that killed a ton of my troops. And he also kept killing my aircraft since my airpower would bomb his cities but refill in Africa. It was basically a stalemate for an hour (Qing Dynasty was also having the same problem but just in the far east) I nuked his country 12 times but that did nothing so eventually I went straight for his capital. The Franco Empire's capital was near a sea so I decided to send in 21,000 tanks there (his capital was like the only city not fortified) and I was able to find a route to flank into his capital without it being guarded by AA or arty. I do that and I hold his capital for a bit but that imbecile had forts all around his city and just started placing arty on those cities and it killed all of my tanks real quick and then took his city back. Also he became number one doing F*cking nothing whilst me and the Qing killed our economies almost into debt because we couldn't push into his country because all of his cities (yes, every single one at this point) had a fort on them. Moral of the story? Unlimited fort cap f*cks up waging wars on the offensive side if they spam them (I think a cap of like 20 - 40 forts is fair). Invading a country that is larger becomes essentially impossible if they spam forts on all of their cities and pairs it with arty and AA and the increased City Resistance buffs. The reason why I decided 20-40 forts max is because it makes it so that small countries can stand a better chance if they utilize forts but also doesn't make larger countries impossible to conquer. How do I think we can solve this, put a cap back on forts but around 20-40 forts max for all of your cities, make the forts more expensive, make forts take longer to build. I don't mind if everything but the forts stay the same, just change the stupid fort stuff and nerf the forts. Thanks for hearing me ramble, have a good day.

[@delanohockeydangle1331]

Make a new economy guide.. it’s needed. Lol

[@Tiberio_Barani]

In my opinion also resistance is ruining the matches. In late games when everybody has maxxed the resistance techs wars are very static and totally depend on exhaustion and stability not on conquering.

[@uhhhprussia]

Wheres part 3 buckaroo..

[@yassinelkhafif8497]

BRO CALLED THAT A MINOR UPDATE????

[@Irdka_RN]

mountain countries are now absolute gods

[@TK-ye1uq]

mountain specialization?

[@somesalvadorianguynamednat9413]

Antártica will be op now

[@immentallyinsane3324]

china's mountains+forts

[@Mowdy-anims]

I see making forts very op is necessary, since when you star in a random match and then you'll see the strongest player in the game attacks you

[@BidnerBrown]

Bro what now its just impossible to invade a nation that just sits there this just reinforces the idea of capital camping a very boring and frustrating thing to fight

[@user-tp8pf5ke8o]

@@BidnerBrown skill issue it just costs alot

[@BidnerBrown]

@@user-tp8pf5ke8o skill issue capital camping is a literal skill issue you are so terrible at the game you cant even go on the offensive so you must hide in your capital

[@user-tp8pf5ke8o]

@@BidnerBrown its easy to counter you just suck

[@ProffesionalPigeon]

i like warm pillows

[@The_Tarnished_Warrior]

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[@ZekeClaude]

I main Switzerland now

[@checkm8s272]

Me omw to main Switzerland lmao

[@tlp4454]

why didnt you speak about how it takes ages to spawn and reinforce troops on specialized

[@Amandos]

I mean, it's not like the few extra seconds do much unless you are getting spammed with Manpower from other nations and can repeatedly build more infantry

[@AngloExecutive]

China players punching the air when kazakshtan makes forts everywhere and fends them off

[@InImperialismWeTrust]

This could solve the fact that 97% of all RON servers die before the year 2022

[@ayafumogaming4151]

dang static lines trash now?

[@mariodenis1111_edits]

So is specialisation the best or Manoeuvre warfare or still static lines

[@mariodenis1111_edits]

@israelimapping i asked which one is best not if static lines is the best

[@mariodenis1111_edits]

@israelimapping i dont want to argue but thats 1/3 of the question not the whole one

[@mariodenis1111_edits]

@israelimapping but ye srry u could say it that way

[@Uno_D_Game]

I joined a ww1 event as Bulgaria and maxed Specialization and made everything a fort. Result? The Central Powers W O N. Specialization also is a guaranteed South East Asia unification. WHAT THE HYPERANT DO?More like HIGHANT-

[@MoonJ_RN_Official]

To be honest, going spec on an event is still not a good idea.

[@SebastianStrss]

I used to main Specialization until I saw the absolute beautiful image of Static Lines, the damage against tanks was so good for me as I hate using tanks early game.

[@demehas5942]

the fort update is not bad i literly already built forts over my whole nation so its not that bad

[@kathiecraig2803]

me omw to become Switzerland to "neutrality" everyone

[@Problemsou]

I think fort and fortifications are not the same