Torque Vs DashCommand: Overview and thoughts

[@78destro]

Read a few App Store reviews and some others online, where people are saying that DashCommand doesn’t have support for or recognize vehicles newer than 2014. Can someone confirm? I have a 2015 Audi S3 and don’t want to buy the app if it’s not going to work lol.

[@DegenerateMotoring]

I've been reading the same thing. I loaded DashCommand's reviews until the start of 2016 and I've seen a number of people mentioning lack of support past 2014. Also, on Palmer Performance's website there hasn't been an update since 2014 on the news page as well. www.palmerperformance.com/news.php A little sad to say that lack for anything past 2014 is a strong possibility. Thanks for watching!

[@78destro]

DegenerateMotoring I emailed Palmer last night for confirmation. Waiting on a reply. Hoping they’ve since updated app with support for newer vehicles.

[@DegenerateMotoring]

Good idea let me know what they say please. Hopefully good news lol.

[@gwernette5971]

I had just the opposite issue. Dash Command didn't have support for my Gen 2 Prius.

[@cqa9]

update released today on my dash command. was server related tho,didnt change anything within app I don't think

[@waynes.2983]

should've shown Torque's map logging feature. It is an awesome feature since it data logs your speeds and displays them on the map. Want to prove to your friends how fast you've been taking those corners on a twisty road?

[@doughofstetter9980]

Torque Pro with a nice looking theme has been working wonders for me. Very worth the 5 bucks.

[@miztrusa]

Same here.... 😁

[@geebee5689]

You said you don't need a boost gauge if you don't have a turbo, actually you do need a vacuum/boost Gauge so you can see if you have a vacuum leak because that could be dramatic loss in power

[@wuantwo3]

Thanks for the video. I almost fell out of my seat when I saw the Dr Pepper Clock. WTF Campbell Ave!

[@mikehauk6079]

Torque is hands down the best imhop. I've used Dashcommand quite frequently in the past. However, with all the add-ons & simple customizable display, I ended up staying with Torque Pro. Only down side are the cost. I also use RpmItUp (paid version) on my 2012 Harley Davidson Softail Deluxe FLSTN (Can-Bus protocol, on the OBD plug: pins 4 & 5 = ground/ pin 6 = can high/ pin 14 = can low/ pin 16 = +12vdc. ... ... 6 pin Deutsch connector on Harley: pin 1 = can high/ pin 2 = ground/ pin 3 = can low/ pin 5 = +12vdc power).

[@greatd05]

If you were going to be doing a comparison between these apps you should have done the paid Torque app. I'm sure there features that are not in the free version.

[@DegenerateMotoring]

Then it wouldn't be a comparison of two free apps. Thanks for watching!

[@sirjohndoeofpa3292]

@@DegenerateMotoring what are the main differences between Torque Pro and Torque Lite....except pro is paid? Is Torque Pro a huge difference from Lite?

[@d14_x80]

Nice review. Really just wanted to say good for you answering every comment in this thread. Respect. Gonna check you out on instagram 👍🏻

[@DegenerateMotoring]

+Andy Adyy Thanks man! It's the least I can do lol. Thanks for watching!

[@abeibrahim5846]

I am sorry but I'm new to this - I was expecting 1st, what does one needs to have to get the App to communicate with the car? 2nd, a quick overview of how to connect the app with the car? then how to use the App,.. Any thoughts, Thanks!

[@Theworldaroundme143]

Torque pro is amazing lol tells me everything and you can do the track thing on torque too even download custom gauges or tell the temperature of transmission lol whole reason I got it to check my transmission fluid.

[@alikdouh369]

Does the dashcammond tells me how much total in hp or just in tuning

[@MosheMorgan]

I've been messing around with both the last week...and have only one big problem with each. Torque has problems calculating mileage...the addon that comes with it does better, but isn't customizable...DashCommand does near perfect on gas mileage. On DashCommand, I've had it freeze up with connecting and disconnecting Android Auto...other than that, its everything anyone would want out of OBD app. At this point I'm sticking with DashCommand, other than the hiccup with Android Auto, it seems to handle all the data better.

[@Dota2funny]

how do you know that did you compared it to your car mileage panel?

[@MosheMorgan]

@@Dota2funny doesn't have one... but I calculate mileage on every tank, DC is super close

[@andy164501]

Thank you! I really appreciate you taking the time to do this comparison video. I was rather undecided which I wanted. I'm wondering, did I notice DashCommand will broadcast both BlueTooth and Wi-Fi and Torque is only BT? No big deal either way but I wondered if I picked up on that in the 2 descriptions of the apps.

[@DegenerateMotoring]

Thanks for watching! To the best of my knowledge Torque (both lite and pro) can connect via wifi. Should be under Settings > OBD2 Adapter Settings > Connection > then pick "wifi". Honestly, I think dashcommand has a much better user experience, better feature set (even against Torque Pro), and is just better day to day. However, if you're just trying to figure out whats wrong/clear a code after solving an issue, or end to add extra sensors than what's out of the box, Torque is the way to go.

[@andy164501]

Yes, the ending of your video made it pretty clear that you lean in the direction of DashCommand. I'm one that's more than willing to drop a few bucks on the right app and it does sound like that's the right one. Thanks!

[@DegenerateMotoring]

+andy164501 My pleasure for sure I'd say dashcommand is worth the 5 or whatever bucks for sure, I picked the full version up shortly after I finished the video lol

[@miclewis55]

Good video .. very informative. Thanks for taking the time to do it .

[@marcmcclinchy9774]

What kind of exhaust do you have? Your car sounds great!!

[@utube4greenfuture]

How do you view the data "log's" created on a PC to analyze performance or troubleshoot lean error codes. Collecting the data is easy for these devices. Having a program that doesn't cost $$$$ or a monthly subscription charge is what should also come with these scanners.

[@the_filthy_mcnastiest6803]

Thanks for the video. What adapter are you using in the video? Are you still using that?

[@DegenerateMotoring]

+Filthy Mcnasty thanks for watching! I thought I had it in the description but I see I don't... Sorry about that. The adapter I'm using is a BAFX Products 34t5. Here's a link to the adapter. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005NLQAHS/

[@DegenerateMotoring]

+Jordan I noticed virtually no lag at all with the bafx adapter. It connects no problem every time as well. I'd recommend it for sure. Thanks for watching!

[@CrisAnderson27]

Lag is honestly more dependent on your phone and how loaded up it is. I have the same adapter...and when I used Torque with my main phone (S7 Active) it lags like crazy. With my much less powerful Tab 4 8.0 I recently put in my dash...there's literally zero lag. That tablet is bare bones though, and only has auto specific apps installed.

[@dacal9084]

You totally forgot what car enthusiasts want to see. Do both or either one of these apps able you to set a maximum RPM and alert you when to shift? (Either a sound alert or screen flashing or both?) Just like the “ Drag FX “ app....

[@cqa9]

I run dash command, yes max rpm is settable. upshift/down shift light also present. You do however have to enter all the gear ratio's and rear end gear

[@georgeramsey2827]

Car enthusiasts should know when to shift without a program telling them.....

[@Scoobydcs]

iv just bought an ebay bluetooth obd reader and torque wont connect to it. dash commmand does bnut says i have no errors even though i clearly do because my car has spaner light and is in limp mode

[@sundin2799]

The horsepower and torque numbers are VERY optimistic. Apparently a stock audi s5 has 400hp and 600lbs of torque. You can tell it is just calculating these numbers because the higher you in the rpm range, the more horsepower you get, which is not always the case and in my case it definitely isn’t, since peak hp is around 5 or 6 for my car. I don’t know still don’t trust this thing yet. Has anyone actually used this thing and does it actually read codes?

[@myatix1]

Can you reset things like battery setup, when installing new batteries?

[@amirgencyexitonly5818]

Don't pay for OBD apps. You will have buyer's remorse one day. I paid for Torque Pro and on some cars I get the dreaded "can't connect to ECU" error. Others have paid for DashCommand and found out that it doesn't support vehicles newer than 2014.

[@Laserwurks]

Torque pay version is failure on installation were as free works. Dash command is wonderful it saves information you can screen print after your run.

[@Theroguemanofficial]

Which app would read ATF temperature? I have a VW Passat b6 and it does have sensor.

[@miztrusa]

My Tundra has AT temp and TP wont pick it up. Some sensors are locked out.... You dont get all of them off ur ECU

[@rolandoramon7194]

I have a ss camaro 2015 and I guess right now dashcommansmd works good on my tablet

[@youngjohn3842]

Nice UI for DashCommand, but Torque has a much larger downloading times.

[@angelloya6035]

I feel like I'm texting and driving watching this video..... 😲😕

[@SilverStackers]

can the torque app be put in landscape mode?

[@DegenerateMotoring]

+alfred rodriguez Torque works in landscape mode as well. Thanks for watching!

[@doughofstetter9980]

It also has HUD mode.

[@miztrusa]

Yes

[@Syncere20]

Does anyone know if the Dash Command app will be functional for a 1999 Acura TL. Your advice is much appreciated Thank you.

[@DegenerateMotoring]

According to their site it should. Give the free version a try and make sure. Thanks for watching!

[@redbaron2448]

How do you get Dashcommand to read ARF Readings

[@MitchDenham]

I noticed you liked one of my shots on Instagram, and thought I'd check out your channel; coincidentally, I am currently tossing up what OBD program I want to use in my GT86. I have a Samsung Ultrabook with a busted screen that I'm wanting to install into my 86, and mount a 7" or so screen to the passenger-side of the dash to display diagnostic information. So with that in mind I am leaning more towards DashCommand as they have a PC version of their software, and because it has a bit more polish over Torque. But! I have an old Nexus 7 tablet that I could use instead and use Torque... Decisions, decisions.

[@DegenerateMotoring]

Mitchell Denham Both are really good ideas for a hardmouted solution. there's also Android based head units that would allow the radio to display torque or dashcommand, no extra screens required, which is a route I plan on taking soon enough. Thanks for watching!

[@ottorucavado2242]

Can they read ABS. A/C codes?

[@genecundel4793]

My question is, do all of the OBD's in the same class offer the same amount engine data, or do some report more or less than others.

[@DegenerateMotoring]

As long as the reader has the required protocols in order to communicate, the reader should be able to give all the info there is to offer. Some of the budget readers have issues with J1850 & CAN so i'd recommend the BAFX Products 34t5. Thanks for watching!

[@RenegadeJD]

Thanks for the video. Anyone know if I can view knock in either app?

[@ramchua2988]

Which app can u use in mileage correction?

[@D800Lover]

Will these work with BlueDriver OBD2 ?

[@miztrusa]

Not sure but I got a cheapo on Amazon for like $10 thats been working jus fine

[@Bmxvtec23]

I seen every sensor but oil pressure. Is there a gauge for that? I saw oil temps, but not pressure.

[@DegenerateMotoring]

+Bmxvtec Ejsix could be you don't have an oil pressure sensor or you need a custom PID setup for that sensor. If you Google your cars make and model and then "oil pressure PID" you should hopefully find one.

[@miztrusa]

Its not the gages its what sensors are available off ur ECU

[@naumidec]

hi I want to know if torque app can help identify dpf soot level or any parameters that can help when a regeneration is happening, Vauxhall astra J 2014.

[@DegenerateMotoring]

To the best of my knowledge, torque doesn't provide any emissions information. Thanks for watching!

[@bad001bd]

Do you know if there's any way to diagnose and or are lights with either of these apps?

[@DegenerateMotoring]

+BAD Ben Both apps are able to read and clear fault codes if you're looking to figure out what's going on and that's all I'd recommend torques free version for that. Thanks for watching!

[@bad001bd]

Degenerate Motoring Right, but abs and SRS are completely separate from fault codes. You usually have to buy a special code reader, but I figured the software version might have a plugin for specific manufacturers or something. Thanks for the reply though.

[@TheColeman68]

Can I use an Obd2 to usb with a android tablet instead of using the bluetooth one with DashCommand?

[@DegenerateMotoring]

Don't hold me to it but I believe both Torque and Dashcommand lack obd2 to USB abilities. Not 100% on that but I don't recall there being the option on either. Thanks for watching!

[@TheVitaaa]

Can i read with this app real mileage on my fiat? Thanks

[@DegenerateMotoring]

habere, non haberi Engine mileage no, average/current fuel economy yes. Torque Pro is required for fuel economy as well.

[@eleazarcervantez98]

which one shows transmission temperature

[@hellpandart4133]

Can u help me my obd2 with the torque app is saying no ecu connected how can i fix this problem?

[@miztrusa]

Need a new or different OBDII chip reader then. I got the cheapo $10 on Amazon and I went thru a couple before getting one to work

[@therickyflowers]

Is there any lag on the rpm gauge ?

[@DegenerateMotoring]

Never noticed any really at all in both apps with the adapter I use, if any it's in the low milliseconds for sure. Nothing major that would make it unusable. Thanks for watching!

[@ericsonjoe8606]

If you're using a Bluetooth adapter, there will be a lot of lag.

[@davedammitt7691]

@@ericsonjoe8606 As he said, it's milliseconds. If you have a big lag, it's your phone or provider, not the app.

[@mustangenthusiast]

Custom wallpapers?

[@saeedsargarh]

Witch obd device you use and torque version

[@miztrusa]

I got a cheapo one on Amazon for like $10

[@xconrepo]

why does every video review on an obdII bluetooth code reader/scanner not show the code read/ scan feature??

[@xconrepo]

Will either of these perform diagnostics, clear trouble codes after finding and correcting a fault? is this worthy of a mechanic's toolbox, or a waste of time? that's what I am trying to figure out, thanks!

[@DegenerateMotoring]

+xconrepo Both are capable of finding and clearing fault codes. I'd for sure say it's worthy of a mechanics toolbox for sure. Torque makes reading and clearing codes really simple and fast. I'd recommend for sure. Thanks for watching!

[@CrisAnderson27]

I used mine (at the time Torque Pro only) to diagnose and repair a TON of issues with my 03 F150 after it came back from a 'professional' engine replacement. Honestly I wouldn't be without it with an OBDII car.

[@s99ane]

Which odb dongle did you use in the video?

[@DegenerateMotoring]

+Shane Doherty I used a BAFX 34t5 adapter. Here is an amazon link to it. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005NLQAHS/ Thanks for watching!

[@s99ane]

Degenerate Motoring cool thanks

[@CrisAnderson27]

I have the same adapter...seems to work reliably with Torque...but my version of DashCommand doesn't like to connect to it unless I unplug it and plug it back in. I have a more expensive toggle based adapter to work with my Ford/Mazda based app (Forscan), and it doesn't work reliably with anything lol.

[@sensay813]

oil pressure?

[@miztrusa]

Dont think so on either of them. I have Torque pro and what he fails to mention is it'll highlight what sensors are available.... Not all of them. I didnt see oil pressure on mine anywhere. I have trans temp on my Tundra and that sensor doesnt show up either? 🤔 🤔

[@MH2206.]

Hi Can free version of Torque show instant mpg? Thanks

[@DegenerateMotoring]

+maria husain from what I can see it looks like instant mpg should work in the free version. Thanks for watching!

[@CrisAnderson27]

I have paid versions of both apps. In my experience Torque's mpg is extremely optimistic. My 03 F150 SuperCrew gets 10-12 average real mpg (traveled miles divided by actual fuel pumped at fill up). Torque shows it at 15mpg plus. Currently after 60 miles, DashCommand is at 9.9mpg average. Much closer to reality. I just installed DashCommand the other day, so I'll be interested to see what a full tank calculates out to. One reason I think DashCommand is more accurate, is because it's measuring actual fuel flow demand based on your ECM as compared to how many miles you've traveled, vs the typical vacuum/load x distance reference I believe Torque makes. In addition, it asked me for a LOT more parameters than Torque...including gear ratios for 1-4th and axle, vehicle weight (6200lbs with gas, full size spare, and me!), and a number of other bits of vehicle specific info.

[@CrisAnderson27]

Quick update. I've been using DashCommand for a few months now, and the more you use it and update, the more accurate it reads. The only negative is it used to sometimes randomly skip miles driven (I am anal about making sure it's on and connected before moving the truck)...but it hasn't done that for 4 or 5 tanks now. Not sure what was up. Other than that it's REALLY close to my actual calculated mileage. Pretty happy with it overall.

[@rmsg7504]

Can you plug in on DashCommand and see battery voltage?

[@miztrusa]

I would say yes. My torque pro has voltages for all sorts of items like OBDII chip, cat sensor voltages etc

[@donotwantahandle1111]

Do both apps have a turbo boost reading?

[@miztrusa]

Yes

[@shemaradams561]

Can this work on a Toyota premio

[@miztrusa]

Everyone beware though.... There have been stories of OBDII readers wiping out or damaging ECU units and they aren't cheap to replace in any vehicle!!!

[@shaneintegra]

Dash command said you were going 60mph when you obviously weren't. Guessing that they were two different events

[@DegenerateMotoring]

Nice catch! the background footage is basically "stock footage" of me driving around and then the app footage was overlayed on top. Both apps are super quick when it comes to displaying all of the information. Thanks for watching!

[@NFGrAcing]

does dashcommand have a shift light feature ?

[@DegenerateMotoring]

+jksstar I do believe dashcommand does have a shift light feature. Thanks for watching!

[@Xianpaul0523]

Realdash all the time.

[@lotwizzard1748]

informative. i need to watch in .25speed. you left me in the dust. yourusername lol

[@gwernette5971]

Paid for the app, only to find it does not support my Gen 2 Prius.

[@rajuraula2260]

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[@TweakedSystems]

HUD? Heads Up Display

[@miztrusa]

Yes.... Jus reflects off the windshield when you lay phone down.