Degrassi's Problematic Age Gap Relationships

[@ksis86]

I hated the way Audra treated girls who dealt with Drew, but her going off on him about messing with Zoey was one of her best moments. Like why did he even entertain her 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@briannawilliams97]

I completely agree with you. I hated her as a parent at first, but honestly when you watch the show back she's probably one of the best developed parents in the show for me because of how she learns to accept Adam and acknowledges her own bigotry to have a better relationship with her son. How she helps Bianca even after everything. I find her very interesting as a parent on the show. Maybe that's just me though

[@LovelyJai23]

Thank you!!! The way she treated Alli during Vegas night when SHE was the one crying was disgusting, but I’m glad she did right by Zoe

[@j-rulestheworld9606]

Don't forget that time Anya dated that 26 old doctor

[@Aster_Risk]

Yes! And that was one of the least disgusting age gap stories featured in the show.🤢

[@Ad-qk6km]

@@Aster_Riskshe lied to him said she was in college

[@starfiretamaran1488]

@@Ad-qk6km He still continued to see her after she confessed she was seventeen. He should've ended it for good right then and there but he still continued to date her after.

[@La_br00tal_mija]

Clicked so fast. Kevin smith would be proud

[@KM-nq7hz]

Winston gets left behind in plot lines because he’s a POC.

[@eddierascalhaskell4954]

That Tristan kid seems like the embodiment of cringe.

[@skeetrcheetr25]

thats exactly what i was thinking, i only watched 2 episodes with him in it and i kinda already think he’s a drama queen, but then again idk i only saw like 2 episodes of him im on episode 30 sum of season 11

[@eddierascalhaskell4954]

@skeetrcheetr25 Thankfully I stopped watching sometime around when his group of characters showed up.

[@SkyeID]

every time he opened his mouth, I cringed! I can't think of a moment when what he said wasn't cringe, although, "Sayonara Miles Hollingsworth" is still funny to me lol

[@VyctoriaBrooks]

Tristan is probably my least favorite character in degrassi. Cringe is too nice of a way to describe it.

[@VyctoriaBrooks]

Tristan is probably my least favorite character in degrassi. Cringe is too nice of a way to describe it.

[@dasiareed2708]

Fun fact Melinda (Alli) actually went to prom with it the guy who played Johnny and she was 16 playing Alli while also having her own apartment while filming Degrassi

[@LovelyJai23]

@@dasiareed2708 wait Melinda was 16 during her first season on the show?

[@dasiareed2708]

@@LovelyJai23 yes she revealed that on her podcast and in a old post on instagram there’s a post of her in a newspaper about her playing a 14 year old Alli at 16

[@LovelyJai23]

@@dasiareed2708 oh wow, thank you for telling me 😁

[@oooh19]

@@dasiareed2708she definitely seemed younger than 16

[@dasiareed2708]

@ who? Melinda she herself said she was 16 when getting the role

[@candycoatedoom]

I don't think Fiona was a minor when she dated Charlie. She was supposed to graduate with Holly J but got held back a year, which would make her around 18 when she dated Charlie.

[@sweetgeo96]

I'm always confused how old Charlie was?

[@xxthatsnotmexx]

True

[@carolinedarlene8184]

@@sweetgeo96same, I wanna believe she’s like 21 at most but she could be 25+ for all we know😂 of all the times I’ve watched this series I can’t remember them ever mentioning her actual age

[@j-rulestheworld9606]

I was watching an episode yesterday and when she told Charlie about her alcoholism Charlie explicitly said but you're 17, so she actually was a minor when they were together. I don't quite sure how old was Charlie though

[@SkyeID]

@@j-rulestheworld9606 I read the age of consent in Toronto is 16, and I don't know maybe Charlie was only 20, but nevertheless, it was creepy for Charlie to be with a romantically inexperienced high schooler who knows nothing about what it's like to be an adult when she was obviously more experienced with relationships and adulting.

[@Neku628]

A lot of crap in DeGrassi is "Teen goes through chaotic experience" and "The plot just moves on and makes someone else's crisis the main topic."

[@Neku628]

I think you could do a video about that in of itself, how DeGrassi ignores, dismisses or develops plot points.

[@kindanothere1321]

Bro sav was a good pairing with a lot of the girls in the show idk why i love him x holly jay so much but THIS? As his last storyline and last love interest was vile because of the way it was portrayed as glorifying this student teacher relationship like this was so dumb to me especially because i loved sav

[@bishopmarley7165]

@kindanothere1321 Sav x Holly J is one of my Top 5 Degrassi ships of all time and it is greatly unappreciated. And I really liked Ms. Oh character and what she brought to the show before this whole Sav fiasco. They ruined her character and missed an opportunity for a good farewell storyline for Sav with this crap.

[@liampatrick3110]

The relationship between Johnny and Alli reminds me of Jackie and Hyde from That '70s show.

[@jesserivera2043]

I believe the age of consent in Toronto is 16 and the age to drink alcohol is 19. With some people not knowing this, those plot lines definitely hit harder, but it doesn't help make the student teacher relationship plot lines any less comfortable. And quick bonus round: Mia was 13 when she was pregnant, and her boyfriend at the time was 15. That's the difference between junior high and high school, so keeping this in mind when Lucas interacts with her makes it harder to watch.

[@xxthatsnotmexx]

Regardless of age, student-teacher relationships are not ok due to the power imbalance.

[@bloodyauraa]

this is true but adults dealing with minors/high schoolers is still looked down upon in Canada.

[@WadeIsInsane]

Mia was held back a year due to her pregnancy as mentioned in S8 which placed her in Holly J/Anya's class. She would've graduated in 2008 otherwise. So her and Lucas were in the 13-14 age range at the time of her pregnancy.

[@SkyeID]

I mistakenly thought the age of consent was 18, like it is in the U.S., but the age-gap relationships still make me feel sick. Like, those teachers need to find someone their own age to mess around with! And I wish reproductive organs were completely dormant when people are 13, cuz nobody that young should even be able to have a kid.

[@oooh19]

Lucas was 14 but yea it’s a big difference and so weird when he reminded her she used to throw down at 12-13

[@xxthatsnotmexx]

One critique, please switch up the scenes, ie don't play the same scenes over and over and over, idk why but it messes with my eyes and makes me nauseous 😅

[@SkyeID]

I feel nauseous too.

[@neopets666]

I think Paige ending up in another toxic situation after the fallout with Dean and the way Spinner treated her during the trial makes sense. I like that the show at least ended up presenting Mr.O as a loser when he gives her the weed and breaks up with her. I think Paige really starts to heal when she’s with Alex. I think they could’ve wrote it better but I think Paige and her dysfunctional / inappropriate relationships depict how complicated things can be after going through sexual assault.

[@pleaseshutup7053]

Exactly very good writing

[@topaz_no_life9440]

no fucking way that mr. oleander was only supposed to be 19 😭 that man is EASILY mid 20s 😮‍💨😮‍💨 /nm

[@prescott0913]

Bri vid? I’m clicking.

[@anawaa-a4959]

8:31 No, he offers him ABSINTHE. And, you can tell tristan doesn’t realize how strong it really is, because he only knows it from a play instead of knowing it for being how strong it is. Absolutely wild behavior for anybody, no matter if you are trying to sleep with them, to be offering that to someone who cannot legally drink, and presumably hasn’t drank before. He fully had the intention of getting Tristan DRUNK drunk then taking advantage of him. It would be one thing if he did give Tristan wine, which is bad because giving any minor alcohol is terrible, but he gave him absinthe, a very very strong alcohol instead. He was absolutely planning on getting Tristan very drunk and then raping him. There’s no other way to put it.

[@jczbas]

Winston story with Mr Yates would’ve been amazing! Too see this happen to a STRAIGHT student (by straight I mean opposite in sexuality from the teacher as every teacher/student relationship was match in sexual preference) and maybe make it have Winston wonder his sexuality or see how the abuse attempt effected him. It would’ve been a UNIQUE storyline the show never did and didn’t repeat all over how a male teacher would effect a str8 male student. A lot time in male abuse it can be confusing because their body will respond easily aroused which can cause great confusion . I tried to type this as PG as possible but imagine that storyline! We also could’ve met Winston’s parents maybe they are the ‘strict Asian sterotyep’ maybe they are the ‘happy hard working immigrant ‘ stereotype (sorry Degrassi just loved to stereotype them POC parents lol (side note I love the growth of Sav and Allies parents specifically the dad that was a nice stray of the stereotype) but back to Winston! So then Winston may feel he has no one to talk to at home and since his best friend Miles IS bi the advances and abuse of Mr Yates could have had Winston wondering was he ‘just friends’ with miles? Was he his friend cuz he is also bi? Did he like miles? Hire me writers room! Y’all see the roads and main Winston storylines this could go to! U could also have him become overly trying to go all the way with Frankie to ‘prove his straightness’ as boys abused by men sometimes do causing issues with miles or miles fighting him over his sister asking why and what’s been going on to where Winston says what happened to him So many roads that story can go! You could even THEN have Winston leave to get help or the news get back to Tristan who still was willingly seeing Mr Yates without knowing what happened to Winston and come to realization it’s wrong ON HIS OWN and confide in Mya vs the stupid Mya beef

[@bishopmarley7165]

@@jczbas So many great ideas!

[@SkyeID]

they didn't go into any detail with Winston and Yates, and that was a serious mistake on the part of the writers. They should have explored it more, instead of Winston just saying a passing comment, then the subject never came up again like wtf that was abuse!

[@bishopmarley7165]

@SkyeID I honestly forgot that Yates messed with Winston to tell you the truth. Another Degrassi writing staff missed opportunity.

[@martelraykin]

I don't think Johnny's "If i give it back you'd have no reason to talk to me" is supposed to be cute. I mean, he probably thinks it's cute or something but it isn't framed in a romantic way imo

[@plainpotatotay]

idk what was up with these older shows. i always notice this same thing when i rewatch old shows i watched when i was younger. glad you're talking about this.

[@socks9597]

Unfortunately it's the sign of the times. Most people 30+ knew a lot of kids growing up that had age Gap relationships as teens, and no one blinked. It was mostly accepted up to a certain point. It's different now, and I guess that's all that matters

[@xLadyRaine]

I forgot how the Manny-paige beefwild manny was. Let me rewatch

[@Mushruums]

Wow I thought Paige’s teacher was way older than 19. Like mid 20’s at least

[@pleaseshutup7053]

He was definitely in his 20s no way he was 19

[@LovelyJai23]

I get why they paired Johnny and Alli together from a writing standpoint because both of the actors had great chemistry but with that being said I their age gap. There was definitely an mature/immature imbalance

[@pleaseshutup7053]

They did not have good Chemistry every scene they had together was awkward but I guess that was the point. So if you mean good chemistry in that way you right

[@LovelyJai23]

@ no I meant the kind of great chemistry like I wrote in my original comment.

[@pleaseshutup7053]

@@LovelyJai23 can’t get jiggy with that

[@pleaseshutup7053]

Johnny might be one of the most wooden actors ever on degrassi

[@crystalo3402]

They really mishandled this so many times

[@eddierascalhaskell4954]

Good job! I'm glad you covered this.

[@amywilkinson9134]

I love ur degrassi videos

[@cassandraflannigan7489]

Hey can you do a video exploring zoey's coming out actually can you do a whole video on the lgbtq representation in degrassi all the lgbtq character's

[@SkyeID]

how far back in the cannon were you thinking of? Cuz way back in Degrassi High, Mr. Simpson's brother came out as gay.

[@bishopmarley7165]

The Sav x Ms. Oh, relationship is by far the worst one. Not only was it highly unbelievable and problematic in the way they portrayed it, but it was character assassination for Ms. Oh, who was portrayed as a fierce young teacher who didn't take any crap.A woman like that would never even think of entertaining a relationship with a student, let alone Sav.

[@xxthatsnotmexx]

Yes!

[@diovamps]

I skipped all their scenes and I’m living in denial.

[@bishopmarley7165]

@@diovamps You did the right thing.

[@edgarmuniz8331]

17-14 is not that big of a deal in isolation. In the context of Ali & Johhy's relationship though, it is odd. I never considered Johnny mature.

[@edgarmuniz8331]

Miss O was greedy. IMHO, she only rejected Sav after they made out for a while. I'm not saying their decision to end things was wrong based on the realization they arrived at. I feel like O strung Sav along when she knew it was wrong the entire time.

[@PlayfulFruitLPer]

Degrassi has NEVER portrayed their agegap relationships in a positive light for a reason. I think they deserve kudos for that.

[@Mistydayze]

Mr O was 22 atleast

[@SkyeID]

and Paige was like 15?

[@9shanti]

yeah i was confused about that because its literally impossible to teach at 19 unless you're like idk so smart you bypassed atleast 2 grades so you could finish uni faster

[@briannawilliams97]

​@9shanti yeah, that I was confused on because they kept saying a year older than Dylan so I assumed he was 19, but you are right usually students don't start becoming student teachers until they are near done with their degree so it was confusing for me I think they wanted to make him as young as possible to justify the relationship

[@jackhageman9983]

Now that I think about it Sav and Alli had weird age gaps in their relationships, Sav had Kiki Palmer and Miss Oh and Alli had Johnny and Leo it was wierd

[@sweetgeo96]

THIS! Also Leo was also gross not only he was abusive towards Alli but he must be what in his 20s Alli was still 17 in high school

[@myjumpsuittakesmeshigh2022]

Keke Palmer is the same age as sav

[@myjumpsuittakesmeshigh2022]

But yea the other ones were gross

[@myjumpsuittakesmeshigh2022]

And actually savs actor is older then keke

[@myjumpsuittakesmeshigh2022]

@@sweetgeo96yea it never says how old Leo was but why did her parents even let her date him

[@usernameispat]

so many shows from the 2000s, and 2010s had sooo many age gap relationships now that im rewatching shows 🙃😰

[@edgarmuniz8331]

It's odd how most shows frame students with age gaps. As if someone only hangs with students in their class

[@SkyeID]

I never forgave Johnny for doing nothing when JT got stabbed. I was even more repulsed when he got with Allie. I don't know for sure if Toronto has some kind of Romeo & Juliet type 14-19 age-gap law, but regardless, it was inappropriate for Johnny to be with this very inexperienced girl who was obviously too young and too immature to be in a relationship.

[@TajReacts]

Just came across your channel I’m also a big degrassi fan. SUBSCRIBED!!

[@venusvicious4446]

Tbh?! 3 years apart isn’t even bad. 5+ years apart is wild when you are a teenager and they’re an adult

[@nemi9964]

Yes 3 years is not that deep when you are 21 and 24 but 19 and 16 Is messed up 17 and 14 18 and 15 it’s messed up

[@venusvicious4446]

It just depends on who you ask fr. Teens being w teens isn’t a bad thing imo

[@tj_10101]

25:08 😭 rip Adam

[@LE-zy2od]

Gracie

[@ashleyburchettajleefanlove4683]

Thank you ❤

[@LimitlessJayson]

you cant ever explain to degrassi to someone you dont know because the line at 4:52.. most people gonna think youre insane

[@Dreamlillie_95]

15:48 I had a relationship like this. I was 28, he was 37. I broke up with him after he told me "It takes all his strength and energy to spend 24 hours with me" and that I should be more considerate...

[@oooh19]

28 and 37 isn’t even bad really as you’re both been adults for a while

[@Aster_Risk]

​@oooh19 I don't think they're saying that. Age gaps can still be a bad thing for certain relationships, even if they're both legal adults. This one sounds like an older person using their age to put down their partner.

[@oooh19]

@ throughout your adulthood you change like you’re different at 19 than you are at 25, 30, 38, 45, etc but yea while 18 is a legal adult you are still so young

[@thatonkgau5221]

At least Sav was of legal age and I know that doesn't make it that much better but it could've gone a lot worse.

[@SkyeID]

I didn't know until today that he was legal, but that doesn't make it any better. There was a power imbalance, and there was also a life experiences imbalance. She was in her 20's, dealing with the complexities of adult responsibilities, while 17 year old Sav was at home with parents who were still treating him like a child and trying to plan his life for him.

[@Butterfly-ql4pg]

Well, sure, 18 and 23 might not be the worst age difference in existence, but it's not exactly fabulous either. A person who's been a legal adult for less than a year is at a very different place in life than a person who's been an adult for 5 years. Not to mention even if Sav and Miss Oh did have a smaller age difference, there's still the power imbalance of her being his teacher

[@oooh19]

@@Butterfly-ql4pg23 is still so young though but yea it’s definitely a difference

[@Aster_Risk]

I quit watching another Degrassi KZbinr who allowed their friend to bully me in a live stream for pointing out how gross the Sav and Mrs. O relationship was. There are people who will defend this stuff tooth and nail.

[@dasiareed2708]

Ugh Alli & Johnny was so bad then and now I knew from the get go it wasn’t good I hated how Johnny at first was against Alli chasing him but changes his mind? Like dude stand on what you said

[@Bloqueirinhazugzug]

The way they deal with this is really bad, omg

[@SkyeID]

the one time they dealt with creepy teachers/age-gaps properly was with Lucy in Degrassi Jr. High, but that was way back in 1987...geez those Next Generation writers dropped the ball several times!

[@carolinedarlene8184]

THANK YOU BRI🙏 so many of these relationships made me feel gross watching in real time- especially Alli and Johnny 🤮 I was Alli’s age at the time and it made me so uncomfortable I kind of fell off the show for a bit, the Fiona-Charlie relationship was really weird to me too 😬😬

[@carolinedarlene8184]

I’m not even gonna start on BootyChin Oleander 😤😤 “just disgusting” SAY IT LOUDER DYLAN 😂

[@SkyeID]

Fiona and Charlie are obviously in different stages of life, and even if it was technically legal, it was super inappropriate for the romantically experienced adult Charlie to be with a romantically inexperienced teenager who doesn't yet know what it's like to be an adult.

[@carolinedarlene8184]

@ I completely agree!!!

[@manband20]

I'm sorry I'm barely a minute in but I'm still incredibly hung up on the thumbnail. How was Mr. pedOleander only 19????? I thought that dude was booked to be in his mid 20's. Cause, you know, the actor WAS in his mid 20's during filming. It's bad if he's only 19, but being in his mid-20's can and should have been brought up during production because if the show actually wanted to show how abuse is bad and not romanticize it, they should have mentioned that little nugget of information.

[@SkyeID]

I thought Mr. O was like 23, and Paige was 15, but I don't know for sure since they didn't put a number to Oleander's age. The constant romanticization of these relationships makes me wanna scream!

[@manband20]

@@SkyeID I just looked up the average age of student teachers and it's saying that they usually get field work in their final year of college. I'm not sure if there's a difference for Canadian schools or not, but you would think that's explicitly to get these people mature enough to not chase high schoolers. Him being ~22-24 makes perfect sense given the standard age bracket and only adds fuel to my "Mr. pedOleander dies in the Canadian wilderness while working as a lumberjack" storyline idea.

[@anawaa-a4959]

i agree i also absolutely thought he was way older.

[@briannawilliams97]

​@@manband20they kept saying a year older than Dylan and he didn't deny it when Paige asked so I'm assuming he's 19? But usually student teachers are at least in their third or final year of college

[@manband20]

@@briannawilliams97 I'm normally someone who complains nonstop about inconsistencies in scripts (having gone to film school to be a screenwriter and all) but considering the bigger issue is "YA show glorifies and romanticizes adult/teenager relationship" I am actually willing to let the semantics slide for once.

[@sweetgeo96]

Degrassi is a show that is supposed to deal with tough topics but this was definitely a part theyvfailedxin by glamorise and womanising these relationships just wrong Also Paige who justclost her SA case against her rapist to having a grown man preying on her again? Why? Also Ms Ih still having a job afterwords? She should of been fired. I may not be a fan of Tristan especially how he treated Maya but no one deserves that I get he was upset with Maya but Maya did the right thing

[@devantesinclair9109]

Cuz it happens in real life . Paige been thru all that trauma she even turned gay afterwards , she could’ve been the one shot by Rick too .. same as Darcy how she spiraled after being raped .. spinner dated all ladies who were raped I peeped except who he married

[@devantesinclair9109]

Sav was atleast 18 and a senior , lmao thiers certain college students that’s 18 that have relations with older heads and I ain’t talking bout 26 and plus ya just mad dramatic . That was sneaky link vibes they introduced , it’s just unfortunate she was a teacher .. it’s thrilling

[@sweetgeo96]

@devantesinclair9109 True which is so sad

[@queennzinga5988]

Nobody glamorised but you. yall are weird we need shows to show the reality of teenagers. Gen z are doing worst guys it's time to go around and talk to people.

[@sweetgeo96]

@queennzinga5988 I meant how the show glossed over the more serious topics also I was born in 96 /gen

[@Neku628]

19 or 20, isn't that guy too young to be a teacher?

[@oooh19]

He was a student teacher wasnt he?

[@oooh19]

How old was Vince? We never know

[@goddess9958]

I know that Allie was still using Johnny but not like this though.

[@BlueLightningSky]

Sav who ever since he was introduced made his whole character about obeying his parents and keeping his dating a secret, who calls Anya the love of his life, who in season 10 finally stands up to his parents for a girl he loves and that girl was Ali, who finally gets the approval of his parents to date, decided to move on to another forbidden relationship. He could have gone out with Anya but I'm guessing since his parents would have approved he didn't want to anymore.

[@diovamps]

I think that the the Tristan and Yates relationship was built up to be creepy (especially w the book) unlike most of the other BUT they really dropped the ball in how Tristan’s reaction to Maya never evolves. He never realizes that she was in the right and I’ve seen most fans use it as a reason to be hate his character even more, which is unfortunate cause it takes away from the fact that he was groomed.

[@izayoi374]

Oleander was 19?!?

[@JustHereForCats]

I cannot believe how early I am to this video!! And it’s subject materials that I have absolutely been waiting for somebody to cover. Because we need to talk about it! Degrassi was so bad at inappropriate age gaps. Sav and miss O Was freaking egregious and I hated it

[@logTopic]

When I was 15, I had a thing with my 24 year old high school spanish teacher. I fully consented to it. Looking back though, probably shouldn't have lmao.

[@notawallflowerx]

A minor child cannot consent to any sexual acts with an adult.

[@BellesView]

Ain’t no way Mr. Oleander was 19. He looked at least 25.

[@morticiax540]

I don't think you can equate a relationship between students to one between a student and an authority figure.

[@anitacoopert1668]

Drew was the BIGGEST play boy ! More than Craig… I never liked him

[@pearlulu99]

Just fyi the drinking age in Canada is 19, also it’s not super common to say freshman, junior etc

[@vanillamarshmallow]

wow I remember the Ali and Johnny relationship but I didn’t realize she was so young 🤮

[@TheeFinalBoi]

also i think some of the age gap choices could be cultural with the fact that the age of consent is 16 in canada and 19 to drink. The Miss O ending was still weird and has the whole mary kay letourneau misogynistic energy to it but Americans have to consider the cultural disconnect, but also Degrassi has the weird continuity error with attempting to be perceived as taking place in America but i think they only did that in seasons 1 - 3

[@TheeFinalBoi]

to be fair, did Mr. O lie about her lowkey stalking him? She joined his yoga class just to get his attention; she followed him to a whole bar and tried to insert herself? ~technically~ he wasn't wrong BUT as BriBreezy said, he's still a creep and a loser and deserved to be kicked out of "teacher's college" lmao

[@kingtravis76]

Maya did right thing

[@valerieosei5312]

As much as I love degrassi for being an ahead of its time in junior high, high and TNG earlier seasons, there’s a point where it couldn’t keep up anymore. The writers eventually hit a wall and were no longer able to develop with the same level of nuance and awareness as its previous years. The Ms O and Sav arc makes me cringe so hard. It’s so poorly done and unnecessary.

[@queennzinga5988]

I mean this what teenagers do or deal with on a daily basis in Canada and America. I am not sure what bubble yall live but not everyone life is beautiful as a teenager. Does it mean it is right ? Absolutely not. All bad guys do not get punished. This is a realistic show now that I've watched as a teenager now as an adult, I can testify that it was the reality of a lot of teenagers around me.

[@mercedesdickerson]

I hated how they portrayed Sav and Ms. O

[@raenawilliams3450]

I know this wasn’t a romantic relationship but can we talk about whatever was happening with KC and the assistant coach? Like KC looked to him as a mentor and when I did a rewatch about a year ago at first I was like “ok KC finally has someone to confide in” then it got weird. Like he was buying him beer and a g*n and tried to have him sleep with a pro in front of him😟 I can’t believe I didn’t catch on sooner when I was younger.

[@SkyeID]

when I rewatched, I felt so disgusted that this coach would give him beer and hiring a pro, and how old was KC at the time? I read that the age of consent in Toronto is 16, and the legal drinking age is 19. If KC was 15, that would make him a minor and not old enough to drink! It bugged me that the show just railroaded past that storyline, without talking about the aftereffects of KC being gr**med

[@raenawilliams3450]

@@SkyeID RIGHT! Like they just moved right along into him and Jenna’s pregnancy storyline! Like can I get him going to therapy or something that whole experience was traumatic.

[@devantesinclair9109]

Alli must have daddy issues , Paige been thru all that trauma and flunk college and ended up having to fit in and not be on top of. Manny def has daddy issues so her relationship with that guy wasn’t bad , she was in college then experimenting . Johnny and Ali wasn’t even an age gap she was young but he wasn’t even old lol she wanted to be fast

[@Neku628]

Which Star Wars, the Clone Wars? I don't think she was born when the first ever Star Wars came out in like the 1970s.

[@DejaLanae]

She said when she was born, Star Wars had already been out on video for 10 years. So basically she was born in the late 80s

[@Bloqueirinhazugzug]

Oh my god miss Oh and Sav was i desgusting

[@SkyeID]

I thought Ms. O was like 25 and Sav was 17. I hate how they just glossed over the age gap and made that relationship seem romantic (ugh I feel sick!) she should have gone to jail!

[@devantesinclair9109]

He was 18 and a senior and she was only like 23 so that’s valid lol yall have to understand women be having father issues and as long as their of age it’s all good . These age gaps ain’t even 5 years plus

[@fleshbangg]

the biggest issue with johnny & alli that i noticed is that he views her as extremely immature & makes that VERY clear. he belittles her when she acts like a teenage girl, repeatedly insults her & barks orders at her like he owns her. he’s super manipulative in that relationship, i could never get behind it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@SkyeID]

I hated that relationship! The age difference was gross, and he was so mean to her.

[@Aster_Risk]

Yep. The age gap was definitely not the whole iceberg.

[@DejaLanae]

Dont hate me, but I shipped Johnny and Alli 🫣 Idk its just something about the way they looked at each other, even though he struggled with expressing his feelings. I wanted them to be a beauty and the beast type of story (with her pulling him out of his cold-hearted isolation) lol. But Degrassi was correct in not glamorizing these types of stories, it wouldnt have been good for young girls watching

[@valerieosei5312]

As much as I love degrassi for being an ahead of its time in junior high, high and TNG earlier seasons, there’s a point where it couldn’t keep up anymore. The writers eventually hit a wall and were no longer able to develop with the same level of nuance and awareness as its previous years. The Ms O and Sav arc makes me cringe so hard. It’s so poorly done and unnecessary.