Degrees aren’t getting graduates jobs. Here’s what can.

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Stand Together

Күн бұрын

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@randrothify
@randrothify 11 ай бұрын
Micro-credentials are not new. The real problem is the volatility in the economy and the skills needed to participate in this economy. Neither students nor schools can keep up with the pace of change. This leaves subjects guessing what they should study and schools guessing what they should teach. That is an expensive proposition in time, money, and effort. Micro-credentials don’t completely alleviate the problem and it is not realistic to expect students or schools to make speculative inferences about skills specific to individual industries or companies. Higher education was never meant to be vocational. It is meant to create good citizens of sound judgment and to educate by instilling critical thinking from which adaptability can bloom. Vocational training is why McDonald’s created their own Hamburger University and General Motors created the GMI Institute. If companies want to find better employees for their specific needs it’s time for them to stop shifting the burden solely to students and schools and have some skin in the training and development game.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your thoughtful response and you bring up several important points. Micro-credentials offer one way to adapt by providing focused skill sets that align with evolving industry demands. Yet, it's acknowledged that this approach alone cannot fully bridge the gap between education and employment. The challenge of predicting future skills necessitates a collaborative effort beyond traditional educational or vocational training frameworks. Education Design Lab recognizes the importance of developing critical thinking and adaptability in students. By working directly with employers and educators, the aim is to co-design learning pathways that not only equip individuals with immediate, applicable skills but also foster a foundation for lifelong learning and adaptability. This collaborative model seeks to share the responsibility of preparing the workforce across all stakeholders, including businesses, which are encouraged to invest in developing talent pipelines that reflect their specific needs. If you'd like to learn more about their approach, check out standtogether.org/news/what-does-the-workforce-of-the-future-look-like/?STTOGTR_FT_2023_413678_YT_TRAFIC_ARTICLES&ARTL_EDL_V1_PHO&ORG
@dawnX2148
@dawnX2148 11 ай бұрын
Well stated; 'nuff said.
@thewb8329
@thewb8329 11 ай бұрын
The fact is that we have too many college graduates. For example, there are three times more law school graduates for every job available in the field of law practice. Most jobs don’t require a college degree but it has been a way to discriminate against people everything else being equal. Universities have become a booming industry selling something that is worthless to 2/3’s of graduates and half of attendees that drop out in the first year.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment and for watching our video! You've touched on a critical issue-the mismatch between college degrees and job market demands. It's clear we need to adapt our approach to education, focusing more on skills and real-world applicability. Your insights add greatly to the conversation on innovative pathways to career readiness!
@commonsense.1014
@commonsense.1014 8 ай бұрын
​@StandTogetherCC well suck me sideways skiter.. your saying I need 3 degrees and to work 4 jobs. Just to get paid as one person. Wild stuff.
@MattCRHughes
@MattCRHughes 11 ай бұрын
I’m on my 3rd read-through of “Why Liberalism Failed” by Patrick Deneen, and the thing that keeps striking me the hardest is his dissection of what he terms “servile education.” College is not supposed to be about getting a job. However, we’ve reached the point where that’s a heretical thing to say. We need to return to a place where a university education is something you do to improve your critical thinking skills, rather than a 4-year party with watered-down standards so that everyone passes & schools keep collecting federal funding.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your thoughtful response. The transformation of university education from a journey of intellectual growth to a direct path to employment raises important questions. Education Design Lab champions a balanced approach, integrating skill-specific learning with traditional academics to foster both critical thinking and practical job readiness. This initiative aims to bridge the gap, ensuring education not only nurtures intellectual curiosity but also equips individuals with the skills needed in today’s job market, enabling a more fulfilling career path. If you'd like to learn more, please check out standtogether.org/news/what-does-the-workforce-of-the-future-look-like/?STTOGTR_FT_2023_413678_YT_TRAFIC_ARTICLES&ARTL_EDL_V1_PHO&ORG
@burazfly
@burazfly 11 ай бұрын
Yea, that is how online courses in IT are working at a moment. I know since I have 7 certificates already. You can study and work at the same time, which is much more stimulating than just going to college
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for engaging!
@raydengregg1699
@raydengregg1699 11 ай бұрын
Bring back on the job training
@orianeasmore8941
@orianeasmore8941 5 ай бұрын
Exactly! Everyone wants experience. It's sad.😢
@williamparrish2436
@williamparrish2436 8 ай бұрын
The problem isn't "collaboration skills". The problem is employers want something for nothing. They are like a short, bald guy with no money holding out for a supermodel that will be a traditional wife! And when they don't find that they say there is no one out there. Most of the empty jobs waiting to be filled fits this scenario. Entry level jobs that require 3-5 years of experience. And just like a passport bro, these jobs are going overseas to find people, then bringing them back. Its time to end the H1-B and make these companies train Americans.
@WifeWantsAWizard
@WifeWantsAWizard 9 ай бұрын
(2:04) And there it is. Why would a computer programmer need PEOPLE skills? It's because the employer in question, instead of hiring two people to handle two jobs wants to "maximize shareholder value" by forcing a coder to leave the computer center and walk upstairs to sit at the front desk and greet people. This is about "multitasking"--the lie that companies are looking for resourceful people when in reality they are looking to have one person do the work of 2-3 jobs so they can take the extra cash and buy yachts and golf outings. This guy is making a profit off of the unemployed by crafting "multitakers" who will burn out helping some rich prick achieve his multi-mansion dreams. This man is NOT a hero.
@kreativeforce532
@kreativeforce532 5 ай бұрын
Yea. I heard that and knew he is full of crap. People with technical skills are not the type to have group and people skills nor do we need to. And we don't desire to either. Some people work with people we call them middle management and HR. You know the people that companies fire when getting rid of everything unnecessary. Other people work with things. No things to sell = no company = unfireable position.
@hemlockVape
@hemlockVape 11 ай бұрын
Most employers don't examine people before hiring, not even a basic literacy test. If our education system has anything to do with it, I'd guess more than half of our occupations are filled by unfit personnel.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your insight. The gap between the skills employers need and what candidates offer is a real issue, emphasizing the importance of rethinking how we evaluate potential hires. Education Design Lab's solution is just one of many solutions that are tackling this problem through pioneering micro-pathways that align closely with the demands of today's job market, focusing on skills over degrees. To learn more, visit standtogether.org/news/what-does-the-workforce-of-the-future-look-like/?STTOGTR_FT_2023_413678_YT_TRAFIC_ARTICLES&ARTL_EDL_V1_PHO&ORG
@angeperdudw
@angeperdudw 11 ай бұрын
I just denied research funding to work on this issue. I thought there should just be a software that scans as many jobs in a filter as possible and shows you a pie chart about what skills are mentioned the most. It would at least help us see what is actually being asked for by employers. Then maybe it could be used in real time to watch trends in what employer listings say. At least we could see the changes and feel less worried that we can’t keep up. So I agree with this video, new ways need to be made!
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 11 ай бұрын
That's a great idea! Glad you agree! Thanks for commenting!
@jcfranco231
@jcfranco231 11 ай бұрын
For me, the “what’s the catch?“ with this solution is the cost of such flexibility. Like with most things ‘custom’, there’s a premium that only a select few can afford.
@katedayton3746
@katedayton3746 11 ай бұрын
Great point. I wouldn’t have thought of it that way. I was just thinking how much I need this convenience, not all the stuff required to make it happen for some people.
@YouTenaza
@YouTenaza 11 ай бұрын
I partly agree. But custom doesn't necessarily mean "study the same amount of topics for years, but customized just for you". It can also mean. Study just some months and start working in something profitable. And that is good for low income families. Also a company will never pay a college degree to a student. But migut pay a course for some weeks of months in order to get new people into their industry. It still has drawbacks. I think is better than the "current" model.
@dedmo79
@dedmo79 11 ай бұрын
college was never meant as a means to the end of “getting a job”, it was meant to teach you how to think. And that’s often what it did. Problem is, now too many college professors try to teach you WHAT to think, not HOW to think, and instead of turning their students into critical thinkers they turn them into unthinking activists who just toe a party line.
@LikFlyTuff
@LikFlyTuff 11 ай бұрын
Freaking agreeing so much at this
@josemakavela322
@josemakavela322 11 ай бұрын
​@@LikFlyTuffit doesn't sound as wise as you think
@alize43m
@alize43m 11 ай бұрын
100k to learn to think?? Doesn't sound like a good financial decision
@TSYouTuber
@TSYouTuber 11 ай бұрын
Have you actually been through a 4 year university degree program? I was never “indoctrinated” to a political party idea.
@AndreaCrisp
@AndreaCrisp 11 ай бұрын
My father, RIP, was a professor and would agree with most of your statement. I was the youngest of four, graduated University in 1998. He was very disappointed with my college education and even back then the costs were increasing nearly 10% a year. College is no longer teaching the foundational basics like it did 50 years ago. But the world is also a very different place. I would never recommend college as the only way to be successful now. But my generation was given that line of crap when it hasn't been true for decades. Institutions are too slow to make changes and modern life is changing faster and faster. With AI the growing pains and this reality (slow institutional change) may just well be the nail in the coffin. I think the future is going to be quite painful for most people unfortunately.
@MakelLayton
@MakelLayton 11 ай бұрын
I have a solution companies should pay for employees higher education for those who want promotions and higher pay. Instead of looking for the best talent they should create it. High school should also prepare young adults for the work of their choice to entry level roles for after graduation.
@Mens_Rights
@Mens_Rights 2 ай бұрын
Sigh. So, I take it that you're one of those people who thinks that one can take any student, stick him into any program, and see him thrive in it if he works hard enough and has a "passion" for it? That's not how real life works, as anybody who has ever graded papers in a real course will tell you. Companies are not really qualified to screen applicants to higher educational programs. Your solution fails to be a sensible one, because it calls for companies to fill that role.
@fremontpathfinder8463
@fremontpathfinder8463 9 ай бұрын
But skilled degrees will get you a job- engineering etc. And jobs that have gatekeeper status- you must have a license or certification to enter. So yes a degree will get you a job but it depends on the degree and having more than one skill is important too
@jakoblindelof92
@jakoblindelof92 5 ай бұрын
But engineering is really saturated right now
@beto.aveiga
@beto.aveiga 11 ай бұрын
I don't see a big difference.
@kreativeforce532
@kreativeforce532 5 ай бұрын
Thats odd because degrees in Art teach skills yet are the most ridiculed. A portfolio is required to get the degree. Tests on theory are not. If what he's proposing worked then companies would be clamouring to snatch up every graduate from an art school.
@chaz-e
@chaz-e 11 ай бұрын
But micro credentials are generally for < 1 year. And if students are looking for industry-relevant skills, they can quickly do so by joining Internships and OJTs.
@BB.0101
@BB.0101 25 күн бұрын
From my personal experience I saw many classmates who didn’t care, purely memorized enough to regurgitate material, and couldn’t think critically to save their life and are now struggling in the real world. I am by no means a genius and I graduated 3rd in my class while also holding a full time job to establish a resume of real-world skills. The biggest difference I saw was that I engaged in critical thought, politely questioned my professors to prove to me why they were correct, and I saw college as an opportunity to push myself and learn resilience. I believe my mindset is becoming less and less appreciated in today’s classrooms.
@ThePrabutube
@ThePrabutube 11 ай бұрын
Welcome to the new mumbo jumbo.. So called learning experts are the best in reinventing the wheel indefinitely.
@Clarence_13x
@Clarence_13x 11 ай бұрын
I think people’s IQ and intellectual curiosity have failed to grow along with the increasing complexities of technology. I’m mainly speaking about the people making hiring decisions.
@williamparrish2436
@williamparrish2436 8 ай бұрын
I'm the first person in my extended family to go to college. I was about halfway through my degree when I realized I had no clue how to get a job, and that college was no guarantee to get a job. I remember thinking, "Wait a minute... you I go through all this and their isn't a demand for what I learned?" It felt like the biggest scam. Now that I have a job in my field, I am glad that I went, even though I'm deep in debt. It gave me the skills to keep the job I got. Most people don't know what I know and that is why they fail at technical support. But there has to be a better way.
@psikeyhackr6914
@psikeyhackr6914 10 ай бұрын
Double entry accounting is 700 years old. There is an article from 2003 that said 5th graders could learn accounting as well as college students. Corporations started programming computers to do accounting in the 1950s. Why hasn't it been mandatory in high schools since Sputnik. Planned Obsolescence is bad for your Net Worth.
@aware2action
@aware2action 11 ай бұрын
Employee screening is the issue. For entry level, any accumulated skills are overlooked, leading to a mismatch on expectations vs skillset utilization. On the other end, Experienced roles are screened for unnecessary additional skillsets, leading to jack of all trades, that do not perform well for their expected job function. Not sure, how this will be affected by micro skillset credits, since it will be equally overlooked by a prospective employer. Just some 💭
@shaunmc013
@shaunmc013 8 ай бұрын
It’s not for College to keep up with the job market. Employers need to stop being cheap and start investing in training programs, to aid in creating the kind of employees that they’re looking to hire. It all comes down to what employers are looking for.. Higher Education is an institution of higher learning….. that’s it.. if he’s saying employers just need soft skills, any major in higher education will equip you with those skills..
@bert3163
@bert3163 11 ай бұрын
Rather than *improved*, 4 years of ineffective, unaffordable undergrad is to be *supplemented* by 1-2 years of mediocre job training!? OMG.
@thatpitter
@thatpitter 11 ай бұрын
Honestly I’d take that over 4 years of, “why am I paying for this again?”
@harttdm
@harttdm 11 ай бұрын
Incredible! I know, you could call those skill categories “classes” and the badges “grades”. So unique. An engineering degree requires communications classes with public speaking, humanities classes like psychology and sociology, ethics, and many other non-engineering classes. The only problem with college is the other 90% of degrees that have no job associated with it. Those art history or philosophy degrees only turn into jobs if more students major in art history or philosophy. Any degree that only feeds the academic circle jerk need to be broken out and forced to stand on their own. They won’t, and the reduction in college population will drive prices down through competition. And yes, a bachelor’s in business from any school but Harvard is worthless. Even at Harvard it’s only in who you know.
@kreativeforce532
@kreativeforce532 5 ай бұрын
the first half is true but uh buddy art history majors run your local art museum unless you're a hick who. doesn't have one. Their degree is also tied to archaeology, art restoration, art preservation and working for interpol art theft division.
@DavidRichardson28
@DavidRichardson28 8 ай бұрын
Cap. There are a lack of jobs. Unless you're talking about govt jobs or low skill jobs. Stop the lies. This economy is trash
@BCc249
@BCc249 11 ай бұрын
Seems like to me hes describing what highschool used to be....
@itsurguy7756
@itsurguy7756 11 ай бұрын
This is why we need blockchain technology so we can use smart contracts and use these badges that store individual certified skill qualifications
@fafa8
@fafa8 11 ай бұрын
I got micro-credentials in breathing air and walking with two feets
@pedrosampaio7349
@pedrosampaio7349 11 ай бұрын
Universities were never meant for working people, very little in the world was originally meant for us working people. Only when people were in unions and organized movements and parties, when they made their own voice and force loud and clear, when western states were afraid of falling behind in education and science during the Cold War, did the university open up to the working class. Now the working class is weak and the politicians and money men have long not been afraid of us, and so slowly, even in places like Scandinavia, the benefits of old are whittled away. Soon, the university might again be a rich person's toy. People should take power over their economy and their politics, should understand how and why these things happen, or short of that, organize. Empowerment, focus and then action is needed.
@mikeg3810
@mikeg3810 11 ай бұрын
That’s why the kids need to due their Research and now that a degree ain’t always necessary especially in the early stage of careers.
@paulbradbury5792
@paulbradbury5792 11 ай бұрын
If you need to watch a video like this to educate yourself or anything, you don't know anything about how the world works and are likely missing a lot of common sense
@blogdesign7126
@blogdesign7126 11 ай бұрын
Yes the hype is at play here. Where is the reality and data is not seen for now until proven otherwise.
@rickdeleroy
@rickdeleroy 11 ай бұрын
This guy is no expert.
@tedtalksrock
@tedtalksrock 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. He has no idea what “education” actually means. His “gps” analogy is ridiculous and already has a name ‘credential ing’. Unf., credentialing is not education. Arguably, it’s the movement away from classical liberal education (that thought students how to be critical readers, writers, and thinkers) and toward more credential based education that has made college education more inapplicable to a changing world, because the credentials of today rapidly become obsolete. Whereas, if you learn HOW to learn, you are equipped for a changing world.
@arturonegretearte
@arturonegretearte 11 ай бұрын
More credentials that will keep expanding the student debt…
@ammcgroup6612
@ammcgroup6612 11 ай бұрын
Amazing! You catch me up.
@InOrlando
@InOrlando 8 ай бұрын
Bootcamps already do this. It’s a better story telling here.
@tedtalksrock
@tedtalksrock 10 ай бұрын
This guy has no idea what “education” actually means. His “gps” analogy is ridiculous and already has a name ‘credential ing’. Unf., credentialing is not education. Arguably, it’s the movement away from classical liberal education (that thought students how to be critical readers, writers, and thinkers) and toward more credential based education that has made college education more inapplicable to a changing world, because the credentials of today rapidly become obsolete. Whereas, if you learn HOW to learn, you are equipped for a changing world.
@rj1056
@rj1056 3 ай бұрын
All I heard the entire video was excuses.
@tinand724
@tinand724 11 ай бұрын
this video is bs. period.
@tgatt5759
@tgatt5759 8 ай бұрын
I only came to this video to thumbs it down because your ads are so dam annoying.
@nathanpenner2966
@nathanpenner2966 11 ай бұрын
lol
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