Showcase Live with Velocity Aircraft

Carl Valeri kicking off Day 3 of #DSAS19 with Dwayne Swing, CEO of Velocity Aircraft. Velocity is in Booth 22. You can also check them out online at www.velocityaircraft.com/.

[@timwalsh9259]

As Randy stated, I have been flying my Velocity for 12 years and the folks at Velocity are great!! A real family business, love to hear they have upgrades in the works!!

[@kevg644]

How much do they cost?

[@jeffb3550]

I'll second the "folks at Velocity are great!!" sentiment. I bought mine 2nd hand. Velocity did the pre-buy. Velocity provided my transition training. Velocity did my first few condition inspections (annuals in the certified world). Velocity answered questions for my local mechanic when I transferred the condition inspections to him. Duane and Scott are just great. I've moved overseas and have since sold my SE but I really miss my plane. Just such a beautiful and fun to fly aircraft. Velocity's aren't for everyone, but if you're interested this is a solid and reputable company.

[@oceanhome2023]

I always loved the Rutan longeze this is great, Using all of the knowledge from that to take it to the next level

[@tyeman3039]

I love this design! At 54 years old I’m a new student pilot (I know they all said I was crazy) but I want to build this plane! With a LS3 Avi-converted 460hp power plant.

[@otismohammed5555]

Sorry to be so offtopic but does any of you know a way to log back into an instagram account?? I was dumb forgot the password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me

[@RandyOtt]

I can attest to the Exemplary customer service of The Swing family and Velocity Aircraft! When I bought my Velocity it was sitting on the Tarmac at the Factory in Florida. It was being sold by a bank, and Velocity was brokering the deal. They were only making a very small commission on the deal, but from the very first day I arrived they treated me like I had been a member of the family my whole life! They helped me thru my pre-buy inspection, took me one by one, through all the sub systems of the aircraft, taught me how to fly it with their very thorough Transition Training program and added some cool features like that shimmy dampener they were talking about. When I was finished with it all , I confidently took off for home in California. The first leg was non stop from Sebastian Fl. To Austin Tx! Velocity is a wonderful aircraft and the Swing Family is a gift To Aviation!

[@donanders2110]

I have watched all your videos, and enjoy them a lot. Thanks Randy!

[@mrmiyagi22]

LOL! What's up KJN Randy!

[@js5072]

How much did it cost you?

[@jeffb3550]

You literally just told my story except mine was being sold out of Canada and they handled everything after import for me. My first post-transition flight was (almost) non-stop from Sebastian to Canton, OH ... bladder couldn't make the last 45 minutes and fuel was just a smidge tight. The Swing's are just great. Dang I miss my plane.

[@davidpaynter3231]

Just found this video, what an awesome airplane. My number one now...

[@1Oldskool63]

This is my favorite kit plane company. I lust after the twin engine model with turbo props

[@AirWolfAT6]

Great interview. Amazing plane.

[@skullcraftcustoms]

My dad went to high school with the Rutan brothers. Has cool stories about them. The interior looks like a corvette interior! Awesome piece of art...I'm sold!

[@reginamartin5235]

Great interview!

[@malibujack4852]

I built mine back in 2002 and I absolutely luv it!!! Although I also own other aircraft today with pressurization and deice, I still love to fly my Velocity! I can tell you that VGs and trailing edge fences make a huge difference in performance and of course, a constant speed prop. Like others have commented, the Swing Family is the best and very supportive of builders.

[@danielmarquez8568]

How long did it take?

[@maxsmodels]

I visited the factory in Sebastian, FL. I was very impressed with the plane.

[@venusreena2532]

Ide like that

[@L2FlyMN]

One of my dream planes! I hope to make a visit one day at their Florida facility!

[@NightSky777]

Wow, great info! And Real Nice Plane!!

[@Ebbrush3]

straight up beautiful

[@socrates112]

Brilliant interview. Many thanks for this. Lovely planes.

[@davidgolden6068]

Did he just say 6/7 seat Velocity?? Granted, from the absence of timeline it may be 10 years but man what a thing that will be!

[@vitordelima]

It was planned years ago and nobody said anything about this project for a long time.

[@antoniocarloscrevelaro8783]

Seria um concorrente fortissimo contra as aeronaves Diamond da62. Imagino um velocity bimotor com motores ciclo diesel e 6/7 assentos como o da62.

[@Edmonchuck]

They show a fuselage on their website...

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Amazing airplane!

[@NightSky777]

Watching it again! Great info. ...would've loved to have seen more views of the SE and INTERIORS of them!

[@DeLandSportAviationShowcase]

Thanks, we will try to do more inside shots next time.

[@clifflong1203]

Wow! Very nice indeed👌

[@michaelburke6552]

That is a fantastic air craft!!

[@KellyLCall]

Beautiful Plane

[@Winging-it-1000]

I want one too!

[@friendofrosto]

Excellent

[@rkxff9593]

superb i am crazy for it dude

[@jordanlovell6892]

Excellent cameraman

[@edilbertosantana8307]

Amazing plane .

[@DeLandSportAviationShowcase]

Indeed!

[@captainobvious9188]

I came here for the Velocity, but what is that aero-tent looking thing on the truck in the background?

[@jorgealejandroriosa5229]

I m waiting for the 6th SEAT plane.

[@devinmcgovern8904]

Guys I'm over here in Worcester and I watch a Canard flying around the other day in the winds are really bad in that thing Bounce Around looks like one Wild

[@clydecox2108]

I like it.

[@dreamaviation381]

Need more camera action. Great information on the velocity

[@NightSky777]

Yes, totally agree. Info is great, but "The Planes, The Planes!"

[@TechViewOpinions]

Beautiful airplane!

[@richardgripe5888]

The Italian Piaggio pusher is a very loud aircraft. Is the Velocity XL loud? With the engine behind the cockpit are the sound levels any quieter than eg. a Lancair Legacy?

[@rnordquest]

I live in Sebastian so I see and hear them fly by regularly. It definitely has a different sound that’s easily recognizable. That noise is really behind you while sitting inside. The air noise is much louder. Your headset will take care if it very nicely.

[@gloc35]

хорошая птичка !

[@mklnm]

look at his fingers rotating as a propelor while talking..he can spin!

[@BenA-bu1cz]

Does it come with Anti/ De icing system? Such a great bird.

[@Karuiko]

Would definitely depend on the build since it's experimental. But there are some good electrical options out there for builders.

[@DrT_MD]

According to their FAQ (scroll all the way to the bottom): no deicing.

[@michaelholder3933]

I love the shape of this aircraft. I'm in the hopeful stage right now,looking at design software to build my first. Looking at possibly a twin engine using converted automobile engines rated at 750 hp each.

[@monocogenit1]

That's awesome. Make it bigger!!! New age Star ship???

[@Mihail_Korovkin]

Красиво!!!

[@mayhem661616]

The velocity is cool but I really want to know more about what’s going on with that tent in the back of the truck in the background.

[@coolhari2000]

Can't wait for to put an affordable turbo prop in em.

[@MrDaxrowden]

I'm currently looking into building an RG with a t-62. I have talked to a PSRU manufacturer and from the what I'm getting its going to be $40,000 for Firewall Forward. that is as cheap as a turbine is getting.

[@livelifesurvive6375]

@@MrDaxrowden you mean firewall aftward. hehe.

[@billkrokoship]

Any factory built with Garmin’s systems for sale?

[@DanFrederiksen]

275 knot cruise is the good stuff. That's regional jet speed. Sort of confirms that a turbo to work at altitude is key to speed. But at that altitude we need a pressure cabin too.

[@blusheep2]

its not even close to regional jet speed. They are not talking about indicated speeds. They are talking about TAS.

[@DanFrederiksen]

@@blusheep2 it's the true airspeed that matters. 275kts is 509km/h. Local route here between Aalborg and Copenhagen takes about 40 minutes and it's only a 239km trip. That's less than 400km/h average. Often time regionals will take it slow and don't go to full cruise altitude. So yes, it is .

[@blusheep2]

@@DanFrederiksen Well then to be fair that still isn't regional airline speeds. That is just saying you can do that run in about the same amount of time as the airline does.

[@DanFrederiksen]

@@blusheep2 actually much faster than the airlines.

[@blusheep2]

@@DanFrederiksen well sure considering that you have to show up to the airport an hour or more prior to the flight then get to the other end and wait for baggage. Flying your own plane is the way to go if money isn't the issue. But fly from copenhagen to venice and that regional will zip by you at 500 kts or more and be there hours before you. No contest. And of course, as you mentioned earlier you aren't going to fly at 25000 feet regularly without pressurization or using a lot of oxygen. This also means that when you are flying between Copenhagen and Aalborg you aren't going to even attempt to hit 25,000 feet in the plane for just 239 km. It would take you nearly that long to climb to that altitude which means the majority of your flight would be well under the 275kt TAS.

[@livelifesurvive6375]

The blue guy nailed it. Good job.

[@jloiterer]

I just wonder, what do you do if the panels go out? are there any analog instruments to use?

[@ToyManFlyer1100]

Umm, bend over and kiss your ass goodbye...Coz, that's the last time you gonna see it....That's why you maintain your plane like you're life depends on it...Coz, it does...

[@jordymaas565]

shoulder harness would be helpful.

[@rob59641]

❤👍

[@venusreena2532]

I had to self insure one of my exotic cars years ago in Florida.. very limited use was in the equation

[@coldfusionspacexxx9814]

If it gets bigger and bigger then will it become the "Starship II" aircraft to be...?

[@bmill09a]

Hmmmm?

[@venusreena2532]

That big egg shaped comerical plane in France is a pusher prop cunard..

[@wernerdanler2742]

It'll even sound like one with the turbine exhaust hitting the props. 😆

[@MrDavesbox1]

I love this aircraft ....i also love at 6::28 where he says the "Insurance company will dictate"....lololol......we pay cash for our aircraft just for that reason- don't we all hate big companies or big Government telling us what to do? yall be safe out there-

[@midgetrace]

When I buy a new to me aircraft I call for the binder and by the time I get the letter requiring 5 or 10 hrs I have flown it home and reached the minimum hrs.

[@bnosrati]

is Velocity molded body panels made of fiberglass or Carbon fiber parts? Also, if it is Fiberglas why they didn't go for Carbon fiber which is lighter, and stronger?

[@secretsquirrel8010]

How fast can one be built and flying? I’ve got anA&P license but would be interested in the fast build.

[@DeLandSportAviationShowcase]

According to Velocity's website: "Building a Velocity averages as low as 1200-1500 man-hours, with two-thirds of that time on the kit. The finishing, engine installation, addition of electrical and avionics, and doing cosmetics takes the remaining one-third time-wise. The Velocity is constructed modularly (two wings, canard, and fuselage) and can be completely dismantled at any future time by removing approximately ten bolts and some screws in the cowl. With the fast-build options available, expect building times to drop to approximately 800 hours. See the Fast Build Options page for more details." www.velocityaircraft.com/airplane-faq.html#1

[@blusheep2]

The fast build cuts the time in half essentially but your still looking at around 1000 hours. You could cut that down if you are experienced with fiberglass and with your A&P skills probably.

[@rev.andyh.1082]

I bet I could get it into a spin. 😎

[@JonT1137]

Rev. Andy H. With that attitude you’re off to a good start

[@1NAOT]

Do they advertise when they have previous owners selling SE RG or XL FG or XL RG. at their facility? I would love to buy one of them used and get the training at that time and make possible upgrades on avionics to glass if purchasing one without glass instruments.

[@DeLandSportAviationShowcase]

Thanks for your comment. We do not know you would have to ask them. www.velocityaircraft.com/

[@blusheep2]

Unless they have changed things in the past 10 years, its not their habit to sell owner airplanes.

[@1NAOT]

blusheep2 I am following an owner builder who advertised the aircraft publicly and he carried it back to the Velocity facility for maintenance and possible upgrade. So his advice was to see the aircraft at that location.. That way I can ask those big questions from people in the know..

[@blusheep2]

@@1NAOT I think that is a great thing to do. They also go to various airshows around the country. You could see the plane there and you could have your questions answered as well. You'll just miss out on the factory and a more intimate experience with them. By the way, I was there mechanic/pilot for 2 1/2 years a little over a decade ago.

[@jeffb3550]

They had a "used plane for sale" section on their old site that seems to be missing on the new site. The Velocity community is tight and fairly small. Go to Sebastian, take the familiarization flight and see their shop. Let them know you are looking (SE, XL, Twin, fixed/retract, etc) and they may very well plug you into a sale. I STRONGLY recommend you have them do the pre-buy and transition training. I didn't buy mine from them, but did get pre-buy, transition training and first two condition inspections from them. Great people.

[@brent1041]

Wow performance wise it destroys the RV10 for cross country flying. Wonder why you don’t see more of these at fly ins.

[@JonT1137]

Brent my understanding is fiberglass is harder to work with.

[@happydog1026]

Because they are to much fun to fly and you go farther

[@Francisco-ml6bl]

👍🙌🙌🙌

[@mrhats830]

Did he have any idea when the 6 place aircraft was gonna be ready?

[@DeLandSportAviationShowcase]

I don't think he said during the interview. But you can ask them from their website: www.velocityaircraft.com/

[@rileyswing9731]

next year

[@mrhats830]

@@rileyswing9731 thank you. I couldn’t wait to see the pictures of your 6 place plane from your July event but I know that got canceled due to covid unfortunately

[@Edmonchuck]

I always wonder about lightening strikes on this a/c. There is no metal mesh as far as I can see.

[@DeLandSportAviationShowcase]

You should ask Velocity Aircraft. When we interview them again I will try to remember. Very interesting question. I don't know but did just a bit of research and found this article. www.compositesworld.com/articles/lightning-strike-protection-strategies-for-composite-aircraft

[@Edmonchuck]

@@DeLandSportAviationShowcase Thank you! I have a question out to them, and I am very interested as I live in a fairly high CB area in the summer, and snow/icing in the winter. FIKI ad lightening resistance are key.

[@badweetabix]

He made a mistake when he said the controls are all the same between this and a conventional aircraft. In this type of canard design airplanes, the rudder does not work the same way as a conventional airplane. The left pedal only controls the left rudder and the right only the right rudder - the two are not connected. This also means if you step on both pedals at the same time, you are braking. He also did not say anything about balancing the aircraft if there is only one person as oppose to 2 people. Being that wide, the center of mass is going to shift. Are you suppose to use sandbags or ballasts if only one person is flying? Like a lot of salesman he said a lot, but not really.

[@jeffb3550]

Can understand your take on this, but think you may be a bit more skeptical than necessary. Speaking as a former owner (not builder) of a Velocity SE FG. You are correct about the rudders on the single engine planes. You can add a bit to your decent by mashing both rudders, but makes directional control a bit more of a hassle, better to just manage decent via thrust as Duane suggests. That said, he did skip the fact that the plane needs a bit more rudder inputs than a traditionally configured plane ... especially at lower speeds. In my 172, I could (didn't, but could) fly and almost ignore the rudder. With the Velocity, I could fly the entire pattern using the stick only for pitch control ... all directional control through rudder. This is a plane that you use your feet to fly. The one/two person observation you make is understandable but just not an issue in reality. I flew everything from 4 up with a dog at gross to just by myself. Nothing just a smidge of trim wouldn't sort out.

[@stevemyers2092]

Interested in the "pressurized" turbine twin (maybe single?) and eventually the twin engine JET....hmmm? ?? ??????? nice to get up into 30K + flight levels.

[@buzzsteele3723]

Both my son and I are looking to get our pilot's license. I'm 52 and he's 19. Would this be a good beginner kit plane to start with if we were interested in owning our own plane?

[@MercFE8235]

Depends on what type of build you want to do with... I would say either a Velocity or a Van's. One is fiberglass, the other metal.

[@blusheep2]

Its a very forgiving airplane to fly. It wouldn't be a great plane for someone to learn to fly in. Its flying characteristics and the fact that it doesn't have flaps and is relatively fast makes it different then 99% of other aircraft. There are better planes to teach in. Also the time and ease of an RV build is light years ahead of the Velocity build. So, if you are looking to get your son into flying then it may be better to pick a plane that will allow him to get in the air the most efficiently.

[@JonT1137]

If you want to build something easy this isn’t it. This is a great aircraft for travel

[@jeffb3550]

I transitioned to the Velocity with just 200 hours of C150/152/172 time. A fixed gear SE (what I bought) is a nice and easy step up from a 172. Learn to fly in a Cessna/Piper while your building your Velocity. Unless you are uncommonly productive, you'll be ready to step right up by the time its done.

[@granskare]

a cousin had velocity which he sold but he retained his smaller plane which I forgot the name.

[@titikalagan3024]

200kts+ at 8000 and 270 it’s at 20000ft, but you need pressurization system. Most important is distance/ consommation ratio of course and this kind of aircraft is unbeatable because aft wing produce lift, and consequently need less power than a conventional aircraft. I’d like to own one and a stearman in my hangar..

[@DavidGilesColorado]

What about IFR?

[@travism9957]

I should spin my thumbs when i'm nervous..it may help me in life as long as the camera is above my waist

[@skullcraftcustoms]

What is up with this guy in blue constantly passing in front of the camera and getting in the shots of this guy's presentation?

[@johnelliott4521]

I called them about a kit years ago very helpful people, did not order kit due to family emergency, once I finish recertifying I will build one of these planes.

[@badweetabix]

I hate glass panels, especially when they go dark on you in flight.

[@NightSky777]

I think I'd prefer the round dials/gauges

[@Bitly24]

Raptor prototype

[@ericjohnson1322]

Dog Byte if it flies. Should be an amazing plane

[@Smokeyr67]

silverbird58 An eagle, a Falcon and Hawk are all raptors

[@dustywilson5461]

Airplane noises. After all, that's what it's all about.

[@middleagedman4373]

i want one

[@familyguy6844]

can you just buy it completely built?

[@DeLandSportAviationShowcase]

People have been building these for years so you should be able to find one for sale. If you want to know if the factory builds them to sell as a complete airplane vs a kit you would have to ask them. www.velocityaircraft.com/

[@mikepattillo5302]

Some serious thumb twiddling ...LOL

[@robertlafnear4865]

Talk the guy that's building the "Raptor" into building the Velocity........ PLEASE.

[@donanders2110]

The man is trying to create a new aircraft company, not trying to build an aircraft for himself! Successful or not, if that is ones goal, why would you build someone else's aircraft?

[@devarajachariraja6939]

What are you good velocity Sar. Play me like

[@SIeepIess15]

It's roomy.

[@ryanhamlin6177]

The original website designer left with all the access???? Silly problems??? Confidence building interview...

[@scotabot7826]

Wow, who's the rude clown in the blue jacket that keeps walking through the shot. Some people!!!!!!!!!!!

[@douglascloud4484]

He's looking for the snack bar..

[@shapour1964]

Way no show insaid

[@DavidGilesColorado]

I am buying an airplane 2000 hours IFR most hours in an A36 Bonanza used it for years for business

[@savagecub]

The guy in the blue hoody needs to dial down his adderall !

[@endwood]

That looks flash but I hate the Cessna style engine controls! Just ruined the design completely!:-(

[@pietrolaneve152]

Troppe chiacchiere e nessuna dimostrazione.

[@cabiroy]

It can be built in a year. My wife and I completed the kit in 6 weeks. See the video kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4Cwd6ulhrl9hdU

[@niceboy60]

Non Turbos engines are more reliable , they work at less PSI and Turbo Failures is impossible although more wealthy people will go for the fastest turbo charged plane your safety should be the priority

[@mci102rv7]

Niceguy60. That might be true if all you do is fly in the east, but if you fly over the Rockies frequently, especially on hot/high density altitude days, turbocharging adds significant safety. If you don’t believe me, fly a Cessna 182 and then a T182 over the Rockies and see which is safer.

[@coolhari2000]

I think the problem can be solved by a small turbo prop (if manufacturers can produce em cheaper)

[@niceboy60]

@@mci102rv7 I get its always preferable to have a more powerful However the Choice in emergency is Having no power at all or having the non turbo charged engine with some power and in Good Working Condition . It's not unusual Engines with low mileages to blow up their Turbos even before reaching 18.000 miles more PSI and more turbo pressure comes at risk

[@mci102rv7]

Couple of corrections. Turbocharging does not normally add more power, and in some cases doesn’t even increase maximum manifold pressure. For example, I flew a turbo Aztec which came from the factory with turbocharged engines. The engines produced the same 250hp per side as the non-turbo charged version of the airplane . The engines (D model) were turbo normalized so the max manifold pressure was the same 32” as for the normally aspirated engines. The turbo simply allowed you to maintain cruse power to a higher altitude. They also increased single engine service ceiling from below 8000’ to around 16000’ which is a big safety improvement if you are flying over mountains at night.

[@niceboy60]

@@mci102rv7 you might be complicating things a bit, A Turbo Charged engine Is under more stress duo to working with higher PSI . Let's look at F1 Engine it has amazing levels of performance and extremely high RPM's sadly there's no such thing as a Free Lunch you pay the price on reliability & longevity it can Achieve only a bit more than 3000 miles before having to be completely rebuilt. . Planes need to prioritize reliability as supposed to high performance, Is better to have a weak engine as supposed to no Engine at all 🙄

[@derekgray1633]

the interior is the only thing i dont like pretty much a non issue but man brown/red/gray with the stitching patterns is too much. the plane is really good looking the interior should be sleek like a Tesla

[@NightSky777]

That's something you can select/customize. These aren't mass produced.

[@shashidharmurthy2226]

I pity you won't let the ol' man fly the thing. !!!

[@subjectedge]

CEO: "Yeah the phone is always ringing with people calling, having problems..." Dude needs a marketing guy...

[@siroccowind736]

I'm assuming it uses epoxy resin. I would buy these kits without all the fast build options. I built a Glasair 3, took me 27 years. So expect it to take a lot longer than you would think in the beginning. Most of the aircraft I would check out at fly-in's I later found out were all professionally built. So anyone having one of these at a fly-in that says they did it in 3 or 5 years etc.. suspect a professional job. They won't own up to that since most owners put themselves down as the builder to get the repairman cert. So mum is the word on that one. I would prefer vinyl ester resin, it sets up a lot faster. Epoxy is slow to cure, so that will make the project take longer.

[@nicelez]

Hi Rich, As a professional in the industry the first thing you need to understand is that not all fiberglass will accept Ester resins. Your also assuming you know more than the designer. The fast build kit does not cost that much more and I can well understand wanting to save money however, unless your power to your shop is free and as well as cutting into good fishing time, you will spend more money for the extra materials and time it takes to build it. People never think so but there sure are a lot of people who have done what you suggest and looking back wish they would have opted for the Fast-build. Your reasons for changing away from epoxy is unfounded. We use epoxies that are very strong with a 20 to 25 minute working time and that can be cured in less than 4 hours. We use 13 different types/brands of epoxy all for differing reasons. Last but not least, no testing I'm aware of has been done to verify the lay-up schedule you would need with vinylester... and yes I have help a few friends build there Glasairs so I am speaking from experience. One more thing, If you focus the fast build can be completed in a 16 months time.

[@siroccowind736]

Well Rutan had to use Epoxy because the type of foam you can hotwire to make a wing and other structures would melt if polyester or vinyl ester were used on it. So that started the canard designs down the path of epoxy. And finding a suitable cloth for use with vinyl ester is no problem, lots of options there. I don't like the smell of epoxy, nuff said. You use what you like and I'll use what I prefer.

[@Rassah]

I got a fast build kit, but I built mine in 1.5 years. Started in March of 2018, test flew just this past September. Not a "professional job," just me building my first plane, but I did get a lot of instructions and guidance from Velocity techs

[@coolhari2000]

That's cuz the faa sucks and makes it really hard for these manufacturers.

[@nicelez]

@@siroccowind736 What I hear you saying is, I don't care about the facts, I just want my way!! Great. But just be warned that ester products will eventually come off because they don't stick so well to epoxies. Facts are facts but like many, it doesn't matter when you want your own way. We can all be guilty of that. I hope you will research this more than just popular opinion. God bless.

[@jmvneto51]

Wonderful canard! No stalling,... amazing! Boring cameraman! When someone say "the other airplane", show the other airplane. When someone say "the circuit break", show the circuit break. In betweens, get out of people's face and show the subject, the airplane itself.

[@jerryreynolds4731]

The questions are so boring.....he is twiddling his thumbs.........

[@madmanmechanic8847]

Screw digital gauges I am old school mechanical analog gauges all the way. I can see digital for your guidance system but not for engine. A sensor or your display goes out you are fucked !

[@mattivirta]

joystic style controller have big shit, need be old good youke. this is big fail. and trottle have totally wrong place not good use. nice interior but seat not show comfotable, too flat and hard maybe. why not salvege crabyard old ferrari seat or lamborchini seat have lot better and cheap change.

[@mattivirta]

this is interesting plane, but need under 100 000$ plane then peoples interesting. and maybe buy, i buy if have additional gas tanks long fly range model 4 seat and free delivery to thailand under all 100 000$ because airplane not have fly around airport and be fun, what fun have fly round round near airport ??? stupiud, plane have go whit family holiday far, etc, canada to maxico sun weekend holiday, or europe to asian fly weekend relax.

[@blusheep2]

not gonna happen

[@mohamednasr9780]

Thank you everyone who admired my plane, it actually fly as it looks, I just wish I have more time to fly it, as I did you can chose the Engine, the instrument down to the color of the seats, really custom made, the engine is actually twin turbo. M.Nasr

[@lliwd]

Great interview!