Flying The Velocity XL - Living My Dream!

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[@brucemonnier9229]

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[@jonbarrett9053]

The Velocity plane, Joystick and Digital Instrument Panel are amazing. Thank you for uploading! ✈

[@crunchied8]

is this your hint to your next plane for you with the eye on the turboprop v twin of the velocity baron pilot

[@velocity550]

Scott is right, I get 180kts on 10gph. Couldn't ask for a more rewarding experience than building and flying your own airplane...and there is never a quick fuel stop. The second you shut down at an airport, there are always questions. I love talking about our airplanes.

[@velocity550]

@@747driver3 Why?

[@747driver3]

@@velocity550 I simply do not believe 180 KTAS on 10gph.

[@Petronion]

@@747driver3 You are simply wrong. This is the advantage of a canard design. The trade off is the high stall speed, which I would argue is dangerous for many inexperienced GA pilots. Also has a narrow CG range.

[@747driver3]

@@Petronion maybe

[@P-J-W-777]

To me as a kid the Beechcraft Starship was the spaceship. Such a beautiful airplane that didn’t get enough love and attention. It’s very sad that there are only a few left. This a beautifully built Velocity. I’d prefer it with an LS engine though. But that interior is on point.

[@Glofilter]

Back when I was getting my Private, Scott (actually Dwayne) Swing were part owners of the airport I was learning at, Phillipsburg, 3I7. Scott was building Velocity's upstairs in the shop all by hand, with these big fiberglass strand weaving machines and stacks of Styrofoam. He invented the retractable gear up there, and I was lucky enough to help a couple times. We molded a hand grip out of foam that fit my hand- I think he actually used it on the airplane he was building. In fact, and Scott probably doesn't remember this, he was trying to figure out a better cooling duct for the nose and I helped come up with the NACA duct you see on the airplane today, which still doesn't work very well.... lol Scott is one of the friendliest people you will ever meet in your life. I'm so glad they decided to purchase Velocity and turn it into the company that it is today. Great video. I can't wait to see your build videos of the turbine twin I'm sure you are getting ready to start on. Tell Scott that he needs to pressurize it.... lol

[@rileyswing9731]

This is awesome

[@thisismagacountry1318]

Pressurized with the new turbine engines that are coming to market would make a righteous build for a Velocity Twin.

[@benbluestone]

damn bro thats crazy

[@benbluestone]

but im still looking

[@davidcollier3604]

I flew one of these back in the 90's for a few hours. I remember it having a high landing Speed. But a very nice plane.

[@johnlevann3205]

Thanks!

[@BaronPilot]

Thank you 🍻

[@tompinnef6331]

Seen a Rutan Long - ez up and close while being built by a relative. Never seen this one before. Thank you for the video. Take care - be safe.

[@rileyswing9731]

Was so good having you guys come by! V-Twin next time!!! (Video came out amazing!)

[@AndyMatrix]

terrifying landing approach ,any chance adding flaps or stabiliser could help ? especially on a windy day?

[@rileyswing9731]

@@AndyMatrixwhat was so terrifying about it?

[@kylengriffin5285]

Excellent video; I still remember the Beech Starship that used to be hangered in Bartow, FL (KBOW). That plane was incredible to watch take-off and land.

[@musictheoryexcel7578]

Baron Pilot............THANK YOU For This Great Video. I Viewed It Twice.

[@Rassah]

Very thankful to Scott for helping me build mine and continuing to maintain it

[@michaelkim3432]

Seriously, it was a picture of a Velocity that finally motivated me enough to get my PPL! Awesome looking airplane, but I just don't have the patience to build one. Thanks for the vid!

[@matt59fire]

Save up invest. Then buy factory built if they do that

[@tlgibson97]

Like you, I have been following this plane for over 20 years and is my dream plane. Doubt I'll ever own one but it's on my bucket list to fly one someday.

[@rreichar1]

I bought a set of Cozy Mk4 plans form Nat Puffer. Had some medical issues and never built. But I’ve always thought it was a great concept. Glad to it living on with Velocity.

[@electricaviationchannelvid7863]

Would you sell those plans?

[@firekraqr]

Be One Are Dees (B1RDs) and Gee You Elevens (GU-11s). Birds and Gulls. I learned something new today. Thank you :)

[@jamesjergens6823]

In the early 90s when I was getting my license, I got to see the first Velocity built in Dayton, Oh. Great to see the develop over time.

[@jessekiefer0206]

It looks like a very sleek and awesome aircraft it’s amazing how it doesn’t use flaps to land!

[@ericbrown4233]

I don’t use flaps to land the bonanza half the time lol

[@chetkarlewicz1625]

Love this plane. I hope to fly one soon

[@Factory400]

My favorite experimental for traveling missions. Goes far and fast while looking absolutely amazing.

[@blaster-zy7xx]

I always loved this plane.

[@tangot8549]

I’m a current 58 Baron owner. My last plane was a Velocity that I enjoyed 14 years and 1400 hrs. It gave me many great trips and memories.

[@MWxbee]

Quick question? What had a more comfortable cabin.. Shoulder to shoulder.. in the front seats? B58 or velocity?

[@es330td]

I knew a guy with a Velocity RG, N52BZ. It was an amazing plane. He told me the plane is so slick it won’t slow down, even with power at idle, so the rudders are designed so that if you push both pedals both deflect to act as an air brake.

[@EatPezzzz]

It's not that they won't slow down, it's just you have to pull much more throttle than you would expect. I had a new owner ask me how I slow my Long EZ down and I said, "Plan way ahead. On my approach here, I was 10 miles out, at 2000' doing 200mph and at that point I knew I was going too fast. I pulled the power to idle and it took me 10 miles to loose 110mph (granted in a shallow decent) because I cross the numbers at 90."

[@es330td]

@@EatPezzzz Wow. I did my flight training in a 172M that would not glide. I had to carry power almost to the threshold sometimes. There were airports at which I could easily land on a displaced threshold thanks to my steep glideslope, even at 500 fpm descent were I so inclined. If I cut power ten miles out at traffic pattern altitude I’d land about 9.5 miles short.

[@danielhaase1084]

The main advantage of the canard is actually to replace the downward aerodynamic force of a conventional horizontal stabilizer at the rear of the plane with lift at the front of the plane. Planes are already fighting against gravity, so why add more downward force? The canard is more efficient and makes perfect sense. I also think they look pretty cool :)

[@aldohattonduran5227]

Perhaps my 2,879th time seeing this video... never gets old ✈️🛩️🇺🇸👍🏻ty keep rocking Velocity!!!👍🏻

[@lucky_one2]

I've been in love with the Velocity twin since I first saw it...great plane. Thanks for taking me along with you two on your adventures!

[@NightSky777]

Agree, same here

[@scott_maclean]

An advantage you didn't mention: a conventional airplane within normal C/G, the horizontal stabilator actually creates downforce - so negative lift, that the main wing has to overcome by creating more lift. Lift = drag, so this setup creates more drag (and is why, when you unload the horizontal stab by loading to aft C/G, your airplane flies faster). On the Velocity, the main wing AND the canard both produce lift, so less overall lift required for the same weight, less lift = less drag = more speed for less fuel burn. A few disadvantages: you need a lot more runway, both for takeoff and landing. The canard requires higher speeds for both - this is definitely not a STOL aircraft, so that can limit you to larger (paved) runways. Unimproved strips are also a no-go, as your main gear can throw debris up into your prop. Also, an accidental over-rotation means a prop strike, which can really ruin your day.

[@gendaminoru3195]

And,... the P.180 had THREE lifting surfaces.

[@robjohnson8522]

Yes, the down side is a very narrow CG range.

[@davidgolden6068]

I don’t understand why these don’t get more “airtime” and attention than they do. They’re not only beautiful but also objectively better performing in almost every way than any other piston single, experimental or certified. Save landing speed.

[@NightSky777]

Yep, my Dream Plane!

[@Epic_Aviation]

Guarantee you the reason for that is cost.

[@blusheep2]

Its not the cost. Its the fact that you have to build it.

[@NightSky777]

@@blusheep2 they have an owner build program in Sebastian Florida where they lead you thru every step, they'll do up to 49% of the work for you

[@blusheep2]

@@NightSky777 That requires that you spend months down in Sebastian. That costs money and most people don't have that kind of time.

[@tc6984]

big disadvantage would be grass strip takeoffs dinging/pitting prop? No flaps: take off roll and landing roll longer?

[@petertarantelli]

Sweet ride and I love the red interior! It’s a (200 mph) video game!

[@rickdorn4022]

I remember back in late 80's I was driving golf balls @ Lunken Airport along the Ohio River I saw Velocity it was the cooliest thing I saw that day and unbelievable cool great video

[@lyianx]

The ORIGINAL "spaceship" plane (aside form the SR-71/A-12) is actually the Beachcraft Starship but before that was Burt Rutan's VariEze and Long-EZ, both of which are canard planes that the Velocity is based off of.

[@trumpdesantis243]

Thank you, the beech craft was the original starship for sure ! Velocity is awesome but a copycat of 3 other predecessors. Starship, long eze and cozy

[@Justwantahover]

But improved it. 😅

[@rwilson881]

Such a great company and a great ride. Especially that low break over the Sebastian inlet. Did it twice in FG demo years ago.

[@Theoriginalbubbafett]

This airplane and the Berkut, love’em!!

[@josephmistretta6211]

That brought back memories with Scott going up with me in 321VE. I'm not saying that we did a roll, but I'm sure that they will roll nicely.

[@davidendsley2391]

That’s awesome, I’d really be interested in the twin. It sure is a good looking aircraft

[@granddad-mv5ef]

That was fun! And now I am mentally kicking myself because I did not realize Velocity is at Sebastian. Left the Space Coast just over a year ago, hopefully I get back there.

[@Dragonrc.]

watching this makes me really consider the XL over the RV-10, plus the lead times on the RVs now is making it a much longer process and I would rather be flying.

[@timkirkpatrick9155]

That is one big control line plane! I really like it!

[@hydrorix1]

The reference of Velocity XL looking like a spaceship is probably more a reference to the Beechcraft Starship, a Burt Rutan design. The Velocity Twin looks just like it. A truly beautiful airplane!

[@Spidouz]

The twin version looks awesome, like a mini starship

[@sailormike1089]

Had to come back and post. Right after watching this video. I was outside and a twin pusher flew over my house at about 250 knots and thought it was a King Air but it just didn't sound right. After a quick search on FR24 it was a Piaggio Avanti P180. Never seen a twin pusher in person even tho it was at 4000 feet. We've had single's around here alot but never twins. Sounded like a weed wacker on steroids, LOL.

[@andyrechenberg]

Super cool aircraft. Thanks.

[@texastyrannyresponseteam794]

I built a Glasair II-S back in the 90s.. great performance.. Show winner.. but, very tight for a guy my size.. i fly pressurized, air conditioned, cabin class now.. however.. the velocity has always been in the back of my mind as a retirement go somewhere airplane.. the best of all worlds...

[@whoisntwhoisit2126]

Sounded like he kept saying Go11's not Gu11's -- Awesome plane, unless something else catches my eye I think I went from interested in Mooney to thinking maybe I wanted something more STOL and off runway capable because it seemed like when you went with Mooney you lose a lot of characteristics, but this drew me back into the "Get there" style plane. I love the speed and fuel burn. Love the way it seems to stall. Love the way people talk about it after having their eye on it for years then getting to fly it. Sounds like a dream. Mooney owners said once I flew in one I would never go back, I only got to fly back seat but it made me think the Mooney was not really comfortable for 4 people either. Not sure but this looks like a dream - also seem to be affordable compared to anything in the same speed, size, or distance class! Love it! Thanks for the awesome video!

[@peredavi]

Beautiful plane. Great cockpit. Nice overview. You got me to look at used Velocity for sale online. Pretty one in MA. for $98.k Tempting!, but I have a gyroplane coming… EAA and Experimental aircraft is the heart of American aviation and entrepreneurship.

[@stephencopprue872]

CHRIS! CHRIS! CHRIS! CHRIS! COM-ON MAN! Wasn't that the MOST fun you have ever had FLYING!? Sorry, KIM! MY SISTA! talk to him? I was there at the Velocity hangers the week before Oshkosh and took the flight with Scott in that very same XL. Not only did I get some INCREDIBLE footage. It was hands down the most comfortable relaxing flight in my 32 years! For anyone who ever wanted to fly, to learn to fly, dreamt of flying this is the plane for you. I grew up wanting to fly the "StarShip" this is better than the next best thing. IT'S A VELOCITY!!!

[@donc9751]

Oh man you're Killing me! I want one so bad just looking at this plane and then your compliment after your experience in it makes me really want one, it's probably a good thing I can't afford to consider it!! The company should be paying you for your marketing skills!

[@ryanawilson8549]

I honestly wasn't expecting the retractable gear

[@Mike7478F]

Well so glad you shared with us. Thanks.

[@rjbishop12]

AWESOME!

[@harryagrotis326]

Really love the Velocity !!! What a cruiser

[@Netanya-q4b]

Wow, that's a gorgeous machine.

[@jonminer9891]

Cool plane. Thanks for sharing! Stay Healthy!

[@arizonafoldingdoors3772]

seriously... this is a "goal" airplane of mine. So excited to see and learn more about the 6 seat twin. Or, even a single-engine 6 seat w/ the new CD300 (Jet fuel) diesel engine. Would love to hear more personal thoughts on the experience.

[@johnyoungs7453]

CD300 engines cannot be overhauled by your friendly mechanic. At TBO, you trade your engine in for a new one - $100K. :-(

[@arizonafoldingdoors3772]

@@johnyoungs7453 O.... M..... G......! So, the Diamond DA 50,62 are the same.....!??

[@rainerzufall689]

@@arizonafoldingdoors3772 DA50 yes, DA62 no, not the same engine. But still a similar problem!

[@Bupkus68]

He likes his gull joke

[@StabyMcStabsFace]

Higgs diesel, or LS-Next

[@MidnightWyvern]

My brother-in-law and I are planning on building one of these someday! Should be finishing off my PPL before the end of this year.

[@MartinSage]

I think Burt Rutan's Long EZ's were the first space ships. I'm sure Burt is happy that his design is still living today in the Velocity. Weren't there some salling issues in Las Vegas in 1992? I'm not clear if Danny or the Scott couple owned the Velocity at that time. I do know that soon after the stalling problem was fixed. Thank God it was fixed as it's such a beautiful aircraft. Not to mention (like most Canards...it's Fast as Hell for such a small home built plane.

[@markmarco2880]

Sleek plane makes perfect sense to me.❤

[@Terry-7]

This aircraft looks like so much fun to fly, its amazing! I wish I could fly one. I looked at their website and I have to say that I'm impressed that they are up front with and list their pricing right on the website. That was awesome. Maybe one day I will get the chance to see one up close, it would really make my day.

[@Reloadeez]

Great medium range planes, have a high landing speed, have to be good with speed management. At 02 levels they are blazing fast, can do 250 ktas at FL250. For shorter hops prefer the RV10.

[@someguy4909]

Very good information. Thank you.

[@fizzyplazmuh9024]

Beautiful plane, beautiful day.

[@soldotnaman]

I designed a plane for my aerodynamics class at university back in ‘89 which was nearly identical to the velocity. I’d love to have one now.

[@1023georgeb]

Fred's class?

[@davidbrugman2171]

What a very unique aircraft! Pretty cool! 👍

[@NikosWings]

Fantastic airplane and great video production!

[@Siquemar1]

AMAZING AIRCRAFT ! Thank you very much .

[@hosegooseman5]

Nice !!!

[@sunshinecatcher8779]

love it some of us dream and some us do, Unfortunately when it comes to flying i can only dream looks amazing

[@Mike-01234]

I love these aircraft

[@floridagoldcoast7826]

I believe one disadvantage is that in an engine out scenario, you have no engine in front of you to help with (clearing the way). Its nice to have that big heavy hunk of metal in front of you. Now, this is more of an rear-engine/front-engine discussion rather than a traditional vs canard aircraft but most canards are rear engine aircraft, so it applies, I believe...

[@blusheep2]

I see your point, but the velocity has proven itself to be very crash worthy.

[@jetdoctn]

Cool machine

[@ThruAWiderLens]

Beautiful plane! Great video.

[@donaldholman9070]

Great plane. Thank you!

[@alainremi267]

Many thanks for all infos !!! Could you confirm that the canard system does not have negative portance of the traditional rear horizontal stabilizer which means that all square feet of the wings & canards are working together to keep the plane flying ??? Thanks again

[@texastyrannyresponseteam794]

what a great airframe.. that turbine twin will be a beast..

[@jasonbergeron6347]

Beautiful machine!

[@adamjparsons]

Very cool!!

[@larryfulkerson4505]

opening intro music reminds me of "Miami Vice". I've been to three state fairs and two goat ropin's and I've never seen anything like the Velocity XL.

[@tedsaylor6016]

Funny you mention Miami Vice, as Velocity's founder is Danny Maher who built Speedboats in the Miami Area during the late 70's early 80's. Apparently things must have gotten a little "hot" with his "customers" as he sold the boat building business and moved to Sebastian. Velocity was founded in 1984 - yes, coming up on 40 years of existence, you can't say that about too many kit builders. The Swings, of course, have taken Velocity to the next levels.

[@K1DTC]

That interior tho! Cool video

[@larrysouthern5098]

That looks like way too much fun.............I'll take two....one for me and....one for...me...

[@prestonmiller9552]

That is a beautiful airplane for sure. I would definitely love to see the twin turbine version. That seems like it would be very cool to fly. But Kim would look real good flying one of these singles too. Maybe you can get her one for Christmas.

[@AviationWP]

[When flying low] "...you gotta watch out for B1RDs and G11s." I can't stop smiling :) :) :) Birds and Gulls :) :) :)

[@drinternatg6391]

Cool plane. When are you buying on?

[@KuschallRacing]

super enjoyable video !! what is the glide range ?

[@TheFirePilot]

The V Twin version could be a game changer honestly. I'd like to know a bit more of the projected performance capabilities but I'm optimistic for it.

[@TheFirePilot]

@itp5x5 Pay? Overhaul? Just fly until she stops and then call the insurance company cause of a prop strike 🤷 lol. This is of course a joke. Or is it….

[@Mr.McWatson]

The dream would be to own one of these or a Berkut or LongEZ... such cool airplanes

[@robertwren2289]

Living your dream. My dream is to fly in an Icon A5. Too bad it was such a hazy day, but I'm sure you had a wonderful time. Can you put AC on these? You need the V Twin.

[@rileyswing9731]

Yes ac is an option

[@kevincollins8014]

Nice aircraft for sure

[@Ichibuns]

I'm looking at the possibility of building a fixed gear SE. Still plenty fast, more reliable, and more economical. I may change my mind when my family is older and heavier lol

[@digitalranger4259]

Beautiful aircraft, and I'm sure it handles wonderfully, but I can't help but wonder how much those canards affect your downward visibility.

[@williamwerner]

Some blockage but easy to look nearly straight down.

[@ericchilver9113]

Certainly hikes along the twin turbine would be a blurr nice looking aircraft too

[@kalancosta7650]

I think they only improvement you could prolly do to this craft is probably slats since you can’t really do flaps in this wing config. Maybe that could bring the slow speed flight performance up to others in its class, as of now it needs a large runway

[@blusheep2]

Actually you can but they chose not to in order to keep the it less complicated. If I remember right, if you added flaps then you would have to have a mechanism to droop the elevators on the canard at the same time.

[@kalancosta7650]

@@blusheep2 ah I see, but still the extra lift during take off and landing would be nice for shortening the distances…maybe?

[@blusheep2]

@@kalancosta7650 Definitely. A lot of people wanted them to have that option.

[@tyeman3039]

That is my next kit!! Oh, also with an LS-3 Aviated 300hp engine. 😁 Great video, it’s helping me sell this to my wife…🤣😂 And I also prefer center sticks.

[@rileyswing9731]

SWEET

[@thisismagacountry1318]

Nice choice, but I hear there are new Turbine engines coming out that might work. Higher altitudes and lower fuel burn with greater availability of lower priced Jet A fuel vs Avgas.

[@clifflong1203]

Nice airplane!👌

[@36w3s.talbot4]

Very nice video

[@Mastercaution60]

Nice gift

[@sysfx]

Physics seems to be consistent with the canard feeling less "loaded" in a turn than a conventional plane: -A normal plane banks so the horizontal component of lift turns it, with LITTLE help from the rudder. - A canard plane uses the same mechanics, but AIDED by a significant torque from differential drag. It follows that the canard makes the same horizontal turn using less bank (or a tighter turn with the same bank). Our perception of increased G depends only on the bank, so... We feel the canard lighter when both do the same turn, or equal when the canard performs a tighter curve.

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

Sorry but none of this is right. G is a measure of acceleration, and the amount of horizontal acceleration required to perform a turn is TAS * turn rate * some constant(*), it does not depend on how that acceleration is accomplished nor the airplane's attitude while doing so. Moreover, putting torque on a plane (whether using a rudder or differential drag) causes it to yaw, it does not cause it to turn, which requires linear acceleration in a direction perpendicular to the flight path, not torque. This acceleration is generally provided by banking the airplane to rotate its lift vector (combined with increasing pitch to ensure the vertical component of that lift vector still opposes gravity), since this is the most efficient way to generate this acceleration and because this means that the aircraft's acceleration vector has no lateral component when viewed from within its own frame of reference, i.e. the pilot and passengers do not feel any lateral forces, which is preferred for comfort. The purpose of yawing the plane during a turn (i.e. putting torque on it, e.g. through using the rudder or any other asymmetric aerodynamic forces) is to keep it aligned with the flight path, i.e. avoid side-slip. (*) That constant is approximately 1/364 if TAS is given in knots, turn rate is given relative to standard rate (3͏°/s), and acceleration is measured in g. Total load factor in a standard rate turn is therefore sqrt( 1 + (TAS/364)² ), and the corresponding bank angle is arctan(TAS/364).

[@sysfx]

Upon reading your words and re-reading mine, I could find the inconsistencies. Thank you very much for the time and trouble to answer. PS: Can you confirm if the Velocitys only deflect one winglet foil at a time? That they work as drag devices?

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

@@sysfx I'm not familiar with the precise behaviour of the Velocity, however any rudder surface (regardless of where it is mounted) will create both drag and (sideways-directed) lift. In case of a conventional rudder only the lift contributes to yawing the plane, while for a winglet rudder both lift and drag apply torque to the plane. The motivation for only deflecting a winglet rudder outboard and not inboard is because outboard deflection causes lift and drag to apply torque in the same direction while inboard deflection of a winglet rudder surface causes the lift and drag it generates to cause opposing torque, hence making that rudder surface less effective in the best case and counterproductive in the worst case.

[@sysfx]

@@MatthijsvanDuin Perfect. Thanks again. Would you agree that the winglet's foil lift has too short a lever arm do generate significant torque, while the winglet's drag actuates on a much larger lever arm (the length of one wing)?

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

@@sysfx I don't know how far behind CG the winglets are so I wouldn't assume the arm is too short to "generate significant torque". The drag certainly has a greater arm, though of course equally important is how much drag vs how much lift is generated for a given amount of deflection, and I have no idea about that either.

[@KutWrite]

Looks to be based on the Burt Rutan design that became the Vari-Viggen, Vari-EZ, and Quickie. He was (is) such a pioneer.

[@JohnMGreiner]

Wish I would of had the money to keep and finish my Rutan Defiant.

[@natewatje2492]

Disadvantages: Take off distance- canard must create enough lift to lift the nose off the ground and bring the wing to a high angle of attack and since the canard must stall before the wing it limits CLmax. Flaps and other high lift devices are not practical for this design (get used to shallow approaches). Deep stall - icing, rain or other mods to the canard air flow can cause an unrecoverable stall (good design have reduced this risk). Aft C.G and canard down wash leads to poor wing disruption

[@jackoneil3933]

Thanks for the review. I'm very interested in the Twin-Velocity. If you could review that would be very much appreciated. Also, on takeoff and climb the the pilot's control inputs (especially during rotation) appear rapid and aggressive, and I'm wondering if that's required for the aircraft or individual pilot technique? I'm guessing it's more pilot style as his control inputs remind me of a friend who was originally leanred in Hiller Helicopters and was later F-4 Phantom driver.

[@bobb2394]

Amazing aircraft looks sharp . What is the ceiling for it and top speed.

[@shardie78239]

If you want a twin, can you hire someone to build? These are awesome!