Delboy's Garage, XL883 R, Fitting Biltwell 'Chump' bars.

Time for a bar swap, some cool "Chump" bars from Biltwell
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[@oldhead_]

Feels like I’m a kid again, eyes glued to the tv as Bob Ross paints simple masterpieces..absolutely love your channel..and this shows you can achieve the feel and sitting/riding position of an Iron 1200 w a Roadster..thanks 👍🏽

[@rebel_ltz]

This whole channel is golden. This was the easiest method to change a handlebar!

[@IdleDrummer]

I just wanted to say thank you for this video, great tips. I just did the same thing on my iron 883 following your instructions. Perfect!

[@ronlheureux7623]

This video reminds me of the times when I did this work on ky Sporster. What it reminded me of is the need to buy replacement handlebar hardware in chrome or, if practical, polished stainless steel This was in the 90s. I can tell you that all of those upgrade projects almost made me giddy with excitement. This is my idea of fun. Thanks for the memory!

[@stpdbtch]

Del / Penny, Huge thanks from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada for all the videos you've made . There's no way I would have attempted any of the work I've done on the bike without these vids and you've saved me easily a grand in HD labour. Of all the great tips, this WD-40 tip was probably the simplest, yet most helpful of them all but I'm most proud of the fact that you gave me the confidence to swap out my rear shocks for Ohlins on my 2017 Iron 883 to give my ass a break. I feel comfortable doing so much more now and for that I am indebted to you both. If you plan to be in the area sometime I'd love to extend my gratitude. Best, Mike

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Mike, that's very kind of you mate, and wonderful news, glad you'v found the videos helpful and glad you found the confidence to do your own work... keep at it, and enjoy the journey, all the best, ride safe, D&Px

[@GTsGarage]

As always Del a great video packed with useful information from you both.

[@Moonfleet41]

+GTs Garage Cheers buddy, hope the build is going well !

[@padmoto]

Great review. Job Well Done. Looking forward to putting on a pair on my '14 Sportster Iron. Cheers Mate!

[@achillesbiker6534]

great video mate, i always find the torx bits great for when you round a allen bolt head off, i get a torx bit that is one size bigger than the allen head and hammer it in. jobs a gooden. always love these videos. cheers Devon

[@GTsGarage]

+Achilles Biker Thanks for the tip, will remember that when I strip out the next one :)

[@achillesbiker6534]

GTs Garage has got me out of some trouble before!

[@grayman999]

Look great the 72 has something similar, very neat !

[@Moonfleet41]

+Graham Calvert Yeah, just a bit bigger... great classic look aye, thanks for watching buddy..

[@lancenguyen9175]

Awesome instructions. Simple and efficient with great results.

[@newmillenniumcyanidechrist4662]

Thanks for posting. It was a real help in fitting my new bars. Especially the section on manipulating the brake line.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks buddy, glad it helped you, happy new year to you and yours!

[@kevinkeogh9272]

Mate, you are an absolute godsend. Been riding bikes a few years and just got my first Harley (exactly this bike). Your videos are so helpful and much better than the overproduced bollocks that's flooded KZbin.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks mate, that's very kind, and welcome aboard and of course, congratulations on your new Harley... welcome to the 'darkside'!

[@kv1206]

Very descriptive video, you make it look very easy, must go and buy one. Man I could have sworn you must have been a english major Phd. your choice of words is just so apt and easy to understand in Queen's english.

[@Moonfleet41]

+politicalobservor 1 Thank you for your kind comments buddy, I am far from Phd level, but we just explain it how it is, so glad it's reaches all corners of the globe and can help riders out - thanks for watching, we very much appreciate it, ride safe, D&P!

[@MrG00ny65]

I thought they were going to look a bit out of place at first but seeing them fitted makes all the difference. They do look great and the main thing is that you are happy with them. Nice one . Will you be doing another Q&A anytime? I really enjoyed those. Can`t wait to see what weapon Pen uses next !

[@rodrigomazzola]

Beautiful bike, and color... looks great with this mini ape.. would love to have this bike!

[@longjammeriii3323]

looking great man subtle is always good, keep up the good work, as always my best wishes, Alan.

[@Moonfleet41]

+alan bailey Thanks Alan, lot more comfy riding position and glad to be making it my own !

[@IronSlimPA]

Great vid Del and Pen. Nice choice on bars. Very similar to what I have on my old 883 low; I really like the ride position as well. Excellent tip on the brake lines. I wouldn't have had the balls to start manipulating those lines like that. lol The new Harley is coming along nicely. Ride safe buddy.

[@Moonfleet41]

+Iron Slim Thanks Scott, good to hear from you sir, Thanks got the kind comments, and loving the bke so far, still got a few refresher jobs to do, fork oil, brake fluid, you know the usual stuff for a bike thats done 500 miles a year in sunny weather... but its still a shock every time we look in the garage as see it there... wish we lived closer and could meet up for a ride in the sunshine... take care buddy, and keep yer boots in the breeze... D&P..

[@buggoe]

great job on the swap! Going with the Chump on my 2016 Iron 883. Stock bars are painful and feel these are the right choice for a stock swap out.

[@theted1601]

Another great and informative video. In addition to a Torx driver kit, you'll need a 12 pt socket kit if you are going to any work on your brakes at all. Love Harleys but they drive me nuts with the special tools requirements. Keep wrenchin' and recording -thanks!

[@Moonfleet41]

+The Ted ...Good call on the tools Ted, buying a Harley comes with a whole heap of changes, they are very different in so many ways...but you can go to a good tool comonay now days and buy a ready made Imperial tool kit, sockets, wrenches and alun keys etc... and of course, a good torque wrench.!

[@SV_Wilko-1KCClub]

Nice one mate. Looking brill. Cheers, Duncan.

[@Moonfleet41]

+Duncan Wilkinson Cheers mate, much appreciated !

[@Evil_Morty2000]

Beautiful instructional brother-man!

[@splodge5714]

Good vid, just watched. Mate flipped his mirrors underneath and chipped both sides of his tank on right and left lock, oops! Cheers to you both for all the hard work.

[@dustincostill5187]

got these at the beginning of the summer for my sportster. cant wait to get them on. awesome vids man always helpin me out. i got a 2014. thinkin i might need to change some of the cables. front brake line def seems too short for the chumps.

[@Moonfleet41]

+dustin costill As you can see Dustin, not at all, if yours is an 883R then they will fit just fine, all you need to do is wriggle the left hand wiring through the headstock about an inch (plenty of slack there!) and bend that brake pipe slightly and gently to help the brake hose fit... !

[@DukeDyson]

Nice change buddy. Great bikes, so much potential :)

[@Moonfleet41]

+DukeDyson Blank canvas aye??

[@markstilwell8374]

Amazing what a set of bars does to a bike .Great bike,great vid , thanks :)

[@Moonfleet41]

+terra hawk Sure is mate, much better ride position too..

[@juanlozano1220]

I love that bike, great job, thanks for the video !!!

[@EngineeringGoneWrong]

Wish they still made roadsters over here in the US. love my 1200R. I've been thinking about doing biltwell chumps for a year now and never have because I was too cheap to buy the brake line. but finally seeing someone do the bending option has me thinking.

[@Moonfleet41]

+Jake C Do it Jake, they 're a great upgrade... and all you need to do is straighten out the hard pipe just a little and they will fit ...

[@acim2228]

im getting these bars for my 2024 low rider ST xlch was my first love. great video. big island.

[@hdfatboy329]

Nice job brother, coming right along.Ride Safe...

[@Moonfleet41]

+hdfatboy329 Thanks brother, pipes and bars, you know they just had to be first..lol got a few smaller things next, but just as important.. thanks for being there buddy.. all the best, Del.

[@rockyroshan9554]

Beautiful... Nice job

[@mattthrasher3674]

Great video. I’m thinking about putting a set in my Dyna.

[@ljgaines8170]

Always enjoy your videos you're very thorough seem like to be a cool dude got some nice bikes also catch you later

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Lj, much appreciate you watching !

[@AndreaOdorisio]

Hi there, really a nice and helpfull video, good tips and clear instructions ... I'm wondering to have a mini ape on my XL883R 2010 ... Which is the size of the handlebar you installed in the video? 8",10" ore 12"?

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi there, these were Burly Chump bars, I believe they're 10" (sorry don't have the bike anymore, just from memory)...

[@blujack100]

Going to give these a try. Thanks very useful.

[@robbyclark6915]

That is a fantastic looking bike! I have not seen that exact model before. Looks so much like the classic flat tracker that is so legendary, XR750 I think?

[@aeronca260]

Another great DIY video on installing the "Chumps", Del! I have an '05 XL1200R (not 883) that I have been looking for more comfortable bars for, and I think the "Chumps" may be them. Your manipulation of the front brake line was of great help, but I am wondering how the wires went for you. I really don't want to have to add wiring and just wondered if you had any difficulty getting the stock wires to reach. Because the stock bars are wider than the "Chumps", are the stock wires able to be used easily without extensions? Thanks in advance, and keep up the great work for the rest of us out here!

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi buddy... yes the wider bars from the R model sportster will reach the Chumps just fine, i had no issues, you just have to tidy it all up and clip them away in a neat way... the only issue is the brake pipe which you saw goes ok too.. Good luck with yours.. Del.

[@tonymallia1940]

looks great Dell. Can you notice any handling differences from the stock bars? Thanks

[@Moonfleet41]

+Tony Mallia Not 'Handling' as such Tony, the bike is not affected the the shape of the bars...but your hands are not rotated quite so flat as on the factory bars, they fall on a more slanted and natural angle so are a little more comfortable that way...

[@Blackbeltjiujitsu]

Fantastic stuff

[@michaelsmith1094]

Dell, where can I find a 70's buckhorn, to replace the stock bars on a 2010 Sportster forty eight. Can't seem to find one for that year. Harley changes their stuff around too much, but it is what I grew up with. Triumps ,Harley's etc all about the same. very comfortable bar now for a mid sixties fellow, Thanks, Mike USA

[@Moonfleet41]

Hey Michael, good to hear from you brother... Ok, i dont think Harley make a bar to represent those old Buck Horn style bars... but i know the regular factory bars from this bike are very much like them... so have a look at the bars from the 2009 Sportster 883R, they would be about as close as you'll get i recon... see if you like them and maybe your local stealership can get you a pair... Hope that helps in some way.. good luck with it and ride safe.. del.

[@petergoddard1960]

When this first appeared I thought 'he's gettign the same bars as Karlos!', and lo and behold they ARE Karlos's!! I loved the look if them, and indeed all of the Bilwelll bars are great. They look particularly good on the 'R'. I had that throttle lock on my sportster and I never did work out what it does. Can you explain a bit further?

[@Moonfleet41]

+pgod1960 Hi Pete, nothing much to explain about the throttle lock, its a small wheel that you can thumb round while riding and as it screws in, a little tiny shoe inside the switchblock jams against the twist grip tube and holds it still.....mate, its a Harley Davidson..it aint ever gonna be complexed now is it...lol Thanks for wathcing buddy... take care. Del.

[@mlj6568]

Précision, rigueur, qualité, efficacité, j'aime

[@carvalhonj]

All videos are amazing... I did like before watch😜

[@teddystephens5587]

nice bars dell considering them for my bike and does teck bike parts make stuff for sportsters

[@Moonfleet41]

+Teddy Stephens Hi Teddy, I don't think TEC do anything, there are a few parts from Motone and, of course, a wealth of other stuff out there, including Harley themselves...

[@janrobinsonus]

Awesome video thanks gonna fit these to my 883 iron in the States

[@Moonfleet41]

Good choice Jan, hope ot goes well for you.. Del.

[@charlieperry26]

i got the same size bars on mine . I love them .

[@frostking57]

was these 12's

[@andrewearl8416]

Couldn't agree with you more about covering your tank, you wouldn't believe how heart breaking it is to see your beautiful tank with a chip in it and I only dropped a small nut on mine .It will get repainted one day till then its been touched up with Harley paint as only they know the paint codes and wont share the info here in Queensland only took two months to arrive. Wonder if you have any tips and tricks to applying touch up paint maybe a good how to video. The bars look bloomin good to can't go wrong with apes.

[@Moonfleet41]

+Andrew Earl Hi Andrew, I've been meaning to do a paint chip video for a long time, there is a knack to it and you can make a practically invisible job of it with a bit of time and care... it's the sort of thing people do over the winter and it's on the list to make when we get round to it !

[@KabouterNZ]

I like both sets, but then again I get bored so I would swop them every month or so. Nice job mate.

[@Moonfleet41]

+JaffaSaffa I'm a bit like that too mate, I've got some 4" risers and drage bars in the garage, plus some taller apes if I need them... and I'll probably swop around over the year!

[@mattstala1184]

hello Del did you ride THE GENERAL down to the Harley garage Sunday? I rode past a bike on Millbrook by pass and thinking to myself i'm sure that's Del's bike.

[@Moonfleet41]

+Stala Music I did indeed my friend, you should have dropped in for a coffee! Were there for a couple of hours for breakfast...

[@tonymallia1940]

Looks sharp

[@GlennWW]

Absolutely spot on.... no adverse comments here.. Do you think they'll fit my 2019 Sporty 48 without having to change any cables etc??? Great simple instruction as usual.

[@Moonfleet41]

Not sure mate, the 883R has quite wide bars to start with meaning slightly longer wiring and cables, but the 48 bars are very small so it may be restrictive and the biggest concern with the modern bikes is the ABS brake pipe, it's welded to the connector block under the bottom yoke and not detachable... so very expensive to replace for a longer one should you need to! Sorry I can't be more help.

[@GlennWW]

@@Moonfleet41 nowt is ever straight forward for me 😂😂😂 thanks for the heads up 👍🏻

[@jaimielibbi1]

Can I ask a general question, would you change these things you do on bikes if it weren't for your channel. Or is it the love of tinkering about with bikes. I only ask cause when I look at my iron in garage everything looks perfect.

[@Moonfleet41]

+Jaimie Walsh I presume you mean when you look at your Iron in the garage everything looks perfect as factory standard?? as most people change something or other on a Sportster to stamp their own mark on it... and yes, been tinkering all my life, never leave things alone and would probably do more if I didn't have the Channel, as any job takes 4 times longer when filming it, not to mention the editing and admin time involved... the Channel has brought us many amazing friends around the world and we wouldn't be without it !

[@jaimielibbi1]

+Moonfleet41 if were me having just purchased my dream bike, meaning since my later teens always saying I would own a harley. what would you change. another question doing your own service does this not affect when coming to sell no stamps in book or is it not really that important. my bible is on order god there not cheap those workshop manuals. Jaimie's is my lads name by the way. my name is ian. Thanks for taking time to reply means a lot.

[@Moonfleet41]

+Jaimie Walsh Hi Ian, there is a lot of conflictng opinion on whether to do your own servicing or not....it all depends on whether you bought the bike to ride very little, then sell on for the highest price, in that case, yes, have it factory serviced and get all the stamps...but dont be too surprised when it doesnt gain you much anyway, and the servicing can cost a grand a year if you ride 10k milesa year... but if you want to actually own your bike for YOU, and own it for your own enjoyment, then why not save the huge cost of dealer servicing and add that money to any future cash pot when you sell it....remember, its £350 for interim and £500+ for a major, ...soon ads up mate..!!

[@michaelcaton9358]

A trick I have used for years to put handle bar grips on easily, is to spray a small amount of carb cleaner into the grip, this lets them slide on without wiggling really easily, the carb cleaner then evaporates and also vulcanises the rubber just enough to make them stick fast.....

[@Moonfleet41]

+Michael Caton Good plan Mike, that makes sense mate, ive also found the hair spray works too....it dries over night and forms a mild glue to stick stuborn grips that wont stop slipping about.

[@stoned747]

hi del &penn its getting better I like the bars all the best

[@Moonfleet41]

+Paul Marsden Cheers Paul, love the ride position they make..

[@Spriterom]

I have 2019 Iron 883 and I wonder if it has the same bars as this one you were replacing (new stock bars a little narrower, I think). I find it that I am leaning over a bit to reach the bars and I am looking for a bit more of a relaxed riding position. I also installed forward controls on the bike and this made the reach for bars a little more "difficult" in my back area (after an hour of riding). I guess it's like riding a Sportster 48? Do you think Chumps will improve the riding position for me? I am 171cm tall (or 5f7 give or take)

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi there, firstly congratulations on your Harley, you must be very proud! The Biltwell Chump bars are basically a 10" mini ape hanger, and will put your arms at roughly the height of your chest, and will certainly sit you back further... this bike was an 883R which has pretty wide cow-horn bars, the Iron from factory has slightly narrower bars, so just be conscious that the brake hose may not reach where it needs to on the Chump bars... it probably will, but if it doesn't, then it's very expensive to replace the brake hose on an ABS Harley as it's welded in to a splitter block. Hope that helps you, good luck with it my friend.

[@Spriterom]

@@Moonfleet41 thank you! how tall are you? Did you find them a bit more relaxing that a standard drag bars? Keep making awesome videos, I like all of them that you make, very good stuff.

[@Moonfleet41]

@@Spriterom Im just a shade over 5"11, and most Sportsters are too small for my comfort taste.. but these bars made the bike a lot more enjoyable and relaxed to ride. These days i ride a Dyna Wide Glide with 14" Ape hangers.. so the same shape just a lot longer and stretched out... Thanks for your kind words or support, have a good week.. Del.

[@cfcasazza]

I enjoy your videos. I had the same exact bike and I put on Biltwell Tracker bars. I think the tracers go much better with that style of bike. The chumps seem like more of a chopper bar.

[@Moonfleet41]

+Two Sheds Hi Arfur! ...yeah, think so too, but I have a thing for ape hangers, think they'd even look cool on a Sports Bike lol !...

[@fartymcstink4887]

Del, thanks for the vid. You didn’t extend any wiring? Thanx-allie

[@Moonfleet41]

No Allie, this bike was an 883R which comes with quite wide bars as standard, so all the wiring reached, it depends on your model with what standard bars you had !

[@fartymcstink4887]

Thanks for the reply! I have the '18 883N with the tracker bars & I'm swapping them for chumps. Once I had removed the controls, It seems the brake line and turn signal cables are too short. Is there any way to reroute them? Brake cable looks like it has a little give..

[@DAUKGinjaNinja]

What a chump! :) Makes the tank and the bike overall look a little smaller.

[@Moonfleet41]

+DAUKGinjaNinja yeah, any bar swap changes the look of a bike, and its an easy task to swap them so great fun to experiment . thanks for watching mate. Del.

[@thedego22]

good video mate. do a video on that black sportbike in your garage!

[@Moonfleet41]

+Skottrik dego Thanks mate... and the RSV mate?? Plenty of videos already done buddy - check the library ...!

[@aaronsukotsky3875]

Does anyone know if you have to extend the brake line when installing these bars on a newer sportster and if so how much

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Aaron, it all depends on the Sportster in question, this was an 883R, which has quite wide cow horn bars, so all I had to do was bend the hard pipe part around slightly to get the angle right, so if your Sportster has quite large bars, then it should reach ok ... if it's an ABS model, you may want to check the length first before you buy the bars....

[@gregoriojuarez1579]

Did you need to get new cables? If so, which ones and where did you get them? Thank you.

[@Moonfleet41]

No buddy, this was an 883R, they have wide buckhorn style bars and the cable reach just fine..

[@An_Enraged_Pig]

I just ordered these for my iron 883 2014. I heard I need a new brake cable though for the older version sportsters! We'll find out lol.

[@axelpteeg]

Hey JR . (2 years on !) Thinking about getting these bars fort my Iron 883m 17b reg .Did you have to replace any of the cabling /electrics ? Or was it just a straight swap (as shown in vid )? Ta

[@An_Enraged_Pig]

@@axelpteeg I had to get a longer brake cable and do everything incorporated with that, I have since moved onto pullback risers (8.5 inches) and Trashin Supply High Riser Bars.

[@axelpteeg]

@@An_Enraged_Pig Hey JR , thank you for replying so swiftly ! i appreciate it . After doing a bit more research and getting your reply , i think im gonna go for the Z keystone Biltwells. I like the look of them and not much of a height difference which , hopefully , won't require a cable change . Thanks man !

[@An_Enraged_Pig]

@@axelpteeg going to a 12 inch rise with my t handlebars i didn't change anything out besides the previous brake cable on the 8inch

[@axelpteeg]

@@An_Enraged_Pig Wow , surprised you didn't have to change clutch and throttle as well !? thanks for the info . ride safe

[@exexpat11]

I wonder how much slack a 2019 Roadster has. I'd love some Chumps or Mini Apes as they are inexpensive however the cables and Brake/Electrical extensions are a little expensive for what they are. If I have to I might as well go with some braided stainless I guess. (An excuse to upgrade an upgrade.)

[@Moonfleet41]

Yeah, i wondered that myself, couldn't find any information, so just bought them and fitted them, it all worked out ok with a little manipulation, had to wriggle some of the loom forwards out from under the tank, and had to bend the hard brake pipe section a little, but all ok.. ! the Chumps are only 8" rise, so not too much of a stretch for factory wiring and cables !

[@dazfowell6947]

looks better for them Del, good job as always, take care D&P

[@Moonfleet41]

+Daz Fowell Thanks Daz - you're very kind !

[@dazfowell6947]

had my 1st spill last week del broken a rib, had to take avoiding action from cyclists riding 3 a breast, was behind a lorry that was turning left started accelerating no sooner as I was clear of it I was confronted by 3 bikes 3 abreast right in front of me, couldn't overtake due to oncoming traffic so tried to mount a kerb, one of thos small angled ones and onto a grass verge, but my front wheel hit it at an acute angle and deflected away throwing me off, next thing I know the bike was ontop of me, hasn't done much damage luckily to the bike just some scratches and split the fairing, so I am going to respray it go for a different colour, anyways getting to the point, I am aiming on doing the r,t,t,w and was wondering If you was going, bit out of your way I know but would be good to finaly meet up and say hi,

[@Moonfleet41]

+Daz Fowell Hi Daz... So sorry to hear about your spill mate, hope you weren't hurt buddy....and its good to hear the bike wasnt too badly damaged, these things happen aye mate, what doesnt kill you makes you stronger.. As for the RTTW, ive wanted to do this for years, but its always on a Saturday mate, and both me and Penny work weekends, the distance isnt the issue, its just the work commitment, so maybe another event, but we will meet at some point mate...maybe Ace Cafe event, there are plenty in the year and we go a few times for different things... Take care buddy, watch out for them pedal bikes, they bloody lethal..lol all the best Del & Penny.

[@dazfowell6947]

+Moonfleet41 bit far for me while I am still on my 125 the ace café is, will be going for my proper licence soon though so will be able to do it then, as for the accident I came off a little worse than the bike mate ive cracked a rib so its a bit sore, take it easy mate. look forward to the next vid, Daz

[@TheBazza2556]

looks good mate,

[@Moonfleet41]

+Bazza Yamaha FZS Cheers Bazza..

[@groundskeeperwille]

Del, what's the tool you are clipping the torx bits into? Cheers

[@Moonfleet41]

+groundskeeperwillie Hi mate, it's just a little handle that came with the set, many of them come with a 1/4 drive socket, so you can use a small rachet, it's a Clarke Pro Set, and I think they are still available !

[@groundskeeperwille]

+Moonfleet41 Cheers Del ;-)

[@hatman231]

Enjoyed the vid. I am ready to buy the Chumps but I do have a question: The bars you installed are knurled in the riser area. New Chumps (according to Hayden Brook, Customer Service Rep Biltwell Inc) do not come knurled. Did you do this yourself?

[@Moonfleet41]

No Mike.. i didnt knurl them myself... thats how they came..!!!!

[@hatman231]

This is what is confusing me. I emailed Biltwell tech dept yesterday and got an email reply today stating the bars are not knurled. Today I called. They pulled a set of bars and told me Biltwell Chumps do not come knurled in the riser area. Many other pictures I have seen show them both ways and that is why I asked. Biltwell tells me the clamping force will hold the bars. I have never installed bars without the knurls.

[@Moonfleet41]

Ok Mike, i guess they have both kinds and that's that... mine are certainly knurled, they are still under my bench and most definitely fully knurled at two places... as you saw yourself in the video.... But if you're arent, then there is a very reliable trick ive always used when installing ape hangers.... just wrap a single layer of kitchen tin foil around the bar and trap it under the clamp....no puckering, nice and tight to the bar.. and the aluminum is so soft it works like a metal sealing gasket and gives the bar and clamp something to bite on and grip.... the bar itself is never perfectly round, and not is the machined surface of the split clamp.... but the aluminum squashes into every ripple and dent and makes a 100% contact all round... and ive fitted 18" Ape hangers this way in the past, and they never slip in the clamp..... Hope that helps.. Good luck.. Del.

[@_.Dave._]

I believe these are 8". Would you still have enough slack in the cables and break lines if you went with 12".

[@Moonfleet41]

It depends on the model of Sportster Dave. This was an 883R and the clutch cable plus the brake hose was at its maximum stretch in this case.. so i think you would struggle with 12" bars..

[@_.Dave._]

@@Moonfleet41 you always reply and always so fast. Thanks once again. You're a huge help, love your work. I'm a fan.

[@TheTurbotez]

awesome job as always dude. plenty of indepth info without baffling folk. The more I think about it the more in thinking of getting some sort of a cruiser type bike for taking Finn out. What would you recommend dude, not sure if I've got harley money mind lol, didn't really wanna sell the xj, would rather start a collection ha ha ha. L&R ad always dude

[@Moonfleet41]

+Turbotez ! Ayup Tez... sounds like a good plan, how about having a look round for a Yamaha Dragstar 650 or 1000 if you can find one.. great comfy bike with lots of accessories out there to make it your own....and how much fun would a RatCruiser be...muah ha ha..

[@TheTurbotez]

I'll have a look around dude, thanks!! Can't say I'm really into the rat scene in all honesty. I find them interesting to look at, all the little intricate bits with their little stories but I'm more of a magpie lol, like shiny things and for some strange reason like to spend whole days making them super shiny ha ha ha

[@mrsvetly]

Hey there, I have the same bike with dual disc brakes and the same stock bars. Do you think I'll be able to fit 11' mini apes with stock cables? I asked a few motorcycle shops and they didn't know how to make it work because of the dual discs. Plz advice. Thanks!

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi there, ok, if you have the same bike then the wider set factory bars give you plenty of length in the clutch cable and wiring and throttle cables, the only work around will be the brake hose... on your factory set up you will notice you have the compound hose system, which is part rubber and part metal pipe, with this video and the Chump bars, I was able to gently manipulate the metal pipe after un-clipping it, so that it gave me a little extra length to reach the bars... you can't bend the metal pipe too much, but like any brake pipe it is malleable, so try that first and if you can't make it reach, then just buy a pair of made to measure brake hoses from any good brake hose company and do a custom fit (this is, of course, provided you don't have ABS, which I presume you don't as you said you have the same bike as me).

[@joewood7225]

You never wedged something into the brake lever to hold it a bit closed to protect the brake light switch ! A bit naughty that !

[@Moonfleet41]

I broke the plastic tip off the end of the switch once, and the new switch was £24.. but the cut off head of a steel panel pin, glued into the end of the switch tip made it good as new for free..!

[@boganthesue8058]

hi I have a 2015 883 and I want to use the same bars you using. I'm wondering do I need to change the brake cable for that?

[@Moonfleet41]

Well i didnt have to buddy.. but then my old 883R had wide bars to start with, so longer cables to begin with... i guess it depends on what exact model you have, and how big the bars are from new..?

[@boganthesue8058]

Moonfleet41 just the stock bar from HD. I will give them a go

[@ernstwondering899]

D & P - new bars look the biz!!! Thanks for sharing! EW :)

[@lornadaggers]

Does your XL883 R have the stock cables? I want to put these bars on but would like to avoid changing all the cables

[@Moonfleet41]

Yes Lorna, stock cables and brake hose, you just have to bend the hard pipe part of the brake line around gently so it reaches the new bars..

[@ukko2k]

Now then Del/Penny - good looking bars - have fun keep safe - cheers - Nige

[@Moonfleet41]

+ukko2k Cheers Nige, nicer riding position too !

[@JonPickles]

Very nice

[@randyjohnson6640]

@Delboys Garage, what size are the new handlebars? And Hey from the USA

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Randy.. those bars were 10" !

[@randyjohnson6640]

@@Moonfleet41 thanks i put some 10.5" bars on and they fit perfect!

[@deanchild9848]

I love what your doing here Del and they look nice but i must say I did like the other one you did on your iron they went round that single speedo real nice. Looking forward to the next item on here, also who going to ride this Sporty...Penny maybe?

[@Moonfleet41]

+Dean Child Hi Dean, Penny's firmly planted on the Scrambler these days after 8yrs on Sportsters, so looks like it's mine... (and good job too as she nicked me Scrambler!)... you mean the Biltwell Keystone bars, they were very cool and worked very well on a slammed Iron, but I have twin clocks on this and hte Keystones physically don't fit !

[@deanchild9848]

+Moonfleet41 you could always remove the rev counter i did on mine, but as with Harleys its all about the personal touch for your style you want but it still great to see what your doing so far.

[@RobsPackanShine]

very nice bike

[@TheSavageGarage]

Best i grab a cuppa tea for this one!

[@Moonfleet41]

+James'sWorld Ha ha, enjoy mate, think ill join you, its been a long day..!

[@TheSavageGarage]

+Moonfleet41 nothing I enjoy more than a cuppa and a long delboys garage episode! Great stuff bud

[@Dude_Virus]

I bought biltwell 12 inch mini apes and sadly biltwell stopped knurling the bars. Any advice for handlebar slippage?

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi buddy, presuming you mean in the clamp? If so, then wrap a layer, or two, of aluminium foil around the bar so that it lies the clamp, this works pretty well to grip them and stop them moving once you clamp them up!

[@Dude_Virus]

@@Moonfleet41 Yes I was referring to the clamp, mine is a xl 1200 c which has the speedometer as a part of the top clamp. Thanks for the advice, i will give the foil a try and let you know how it goes.

[@rpbizzle]

very nice

[@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE]

Hi pal great vids. Have you ever replaced the pushrods on a Harley fat boy? I have a leaking seal which I believe if you replace for adjustable pushrods you don’t need to strip the bike down. What are your thoughts can you please help me. Cheers jay aka Crazylegs’s on a bike KZbin channel.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi buddy, just caught up with this message now, but answered you on FB, so hope that helped.

[@treadsburnout5471]

Was hoping to see the wires internall in the bar and watch you do that but still good video

[@charlesfertig1059]

I know this is a older video but where did you find Chumps with knurling. Biltwell don't offer it

[@exexpat11]

My Zeds had knurling on a previous bike. Aluminium shims (tin snip a coke can) are what some use to clamp tight.

[@robbiegwinn]

cool

[@xHitmanHobbitx]

Hi del love your videos! wondering if you could chime in on an issue I'm having. I did comment on your z bar video too but thought i'd copy onto here just incase you see this one first! Basically I want to install 12 inch apes on my 2014 iron abs. I went with burlybrand on those. All good. Problem I'm having is finding a cable kit. I've gone to Harley and a few local shops and they all say that I need to buy a special " abs cable " to go with a standard cable kit (burly brand non abs 12" kit) for example. I've been told its about £300-£400 just for this abs cable too. I've tried getting details on this mysterious abs cable but noone will actually tell me what it is for. I've traced through my loom and the abs cable goes nowhere near the bars. Straight from sensor over triple tree into the loom under the tank. so I can't see what cable they're talking about!

[@Moonfleet41]

+xHitmanHobbitx Replied to this on the first video buddy.. hope the answer helps in some way... Del.

[@JonPickles]

You forgot to drop the mirrors below, I guess that works on these bars?

[@Moonfleet41]

Not a great fan of underslung mirrors Jon, but yeah, you can flip them on these bars..

[@shaunodeady403]

nice seat on there. What kind is it?

[@Moonfleet41]

Thats the factory standard seat Shaun..!

[@shaunodeady403]

Really? Pretty nice what year is that ?

[@Moonfleet41]

2009, called the 'Badlander' seat..!

[@JamesMcCreadie71]

looks smart

[@FrankDonaldson64]

Cheers, great Vid and got me thinking :)

[@Moonfleet41]

+Frank Dono Hi Frank.. changed them again already, video out by the end of the week... just got to edit the footage..!

[@FrankDonaldson64]

+Moonfleet41 So you have a "chump" spare ££££££ waiting :)

[@Moonfleet41]

+Frank Dono They were given to me by a buddy who didn like them, its only right to offer them back to him first....also, i change bars like underpants, may bolt them back on yet...lol

[@FrankDonaldson64]

+Moonfleet41 Now that's the right thing to do and no one can fault you for that Del - Old skool morals good on you. And tell your mukka I cant get that bloody tune out my head, so much so I downloaded it :)

[@Moonfleet41]

+Frank Dono Nice going Frank, thats cool that you dig the track, the guy singing is the guy who gave me the bars..!!and yeah, old fashioned bloke me..

[@hoyden1960]

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!!

[@Moonfleet41]

Most welcome Kimberly, we hope the video helped you out.. Ride safe.. D&Px

[@Moonfleet41]

Most welcome Kimberly, we hope the video helped you out.. Ride safe.. D&Px

[@tonyjeffery3]

Nice job as usual mate looking good. boogietj

[@Moonfleet41]

+Tony Jeffery Thanks TJ, thanks for watching mate !

[@neiljeffs6233]

Had my Yamaha YBR125 for a year now and I can change down with no clutch at the wright engine speed. Is this not a good idea. Another job done well DEL please do a oil change one day and save us some cash.

[@Moonfleet41]

+Neil Jeffs Hi Neil, we have two Harley oil change videos - two Suzuki Bandit oil change videos and two Triumph oil change videos... how many would you like lol! What you are talking about is 'short shifting', ... doing this up the gearbox is harmless and fine, provided you are timing it right... but down the gearbox can cause damage if you get it wrong ! Better to just flick the clutch to release the drive at the moment of change, just in case the teeth catch each other... specially on a light 125 engine...

[@jackwednesday]

Watched about 50 of your vids today, i have a 1200 sportster, if i paid you and if you live within about 100 miles of me!! Would you show me how to do some basic bits on it? Im based in Brighton.

[@Moonfleet41]

No, buddy we don't do house calls, I'm afraid, and we don't take on private work here, that's what the videos are loaded for, so that you can learn to do these jobs yourself... all shown step by step and in great detail for you... all the best, Del

[@MrPerry61]

I want to do that to my 883 low

[@m3talc0re]

How come yours are knurled? They don't sell them knurled anymore..

[@teddystephens5587]

does peny get to ride the harley

[@Moonfleet41]

+Teddy Stephens If she wanted to, but I think she's still besotted with the Scrambler... she had a Sportster for 8yrs and now prefers the lighter weight and better handling of the Triumph... but it's there ofr her if she wants it !

[@KingFulli84]

are they slotted or dimpled?

[@Moonfleet41]

Dimpled mate.

[@KingFulli84]

@@Moonfleet41 thanks buddy. gonna order them for my 95 sporty and use ur video as a guide :)

[@austincox1000]

How high were those? 10" bars?

[@Moonfleet41]

Yes, "Biltwell Chump" bars. !

[@austincox1000]

@@Moonfleet41 oh thank god. I am looking at 10" and once again your videos have saved me so much money. I was about to buy new cables and lines.

[@Moonfleet41]

@@austincox1000 Good news then Austin, even the factory metal brake pipe can be un-clipped from the screw clip on the top yoke, and carefully bent slightly straighter to allow the factory brake hose to work as well... Good luck with it..

[@An_Enraged_Pig]

I got these, I installed them. Now I want 12 inch bars

[@Moonfleet41]

Yeah me too.. check your cable, hose and wiring length first, as you can see its all pretty close even with these..!