Deleted Starship Troopers Scenes That You Never Knew Existed

From kisses to farewells, there are a few scenes that didn't make the final cut of "Starship Troopers."
#StarshipTroopers #SciFi #DeletedScenes
Dumb with numbers | 0:00
Johnny and Carmen bid farewell | 1:04
Zander confesses his love | 2:10
Glad he's alive | 2:57
The extended ending kiss | 3:58
Other workprint cuts | 4:57
Voiceover by: Jordan Joshua
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[@Looper]

Do you think the movie would have been better or worse if these scenes had been included?

[@laurakuhn8743]

Better

[@cdncitizen4700]

WAAAAY better - It came off as a vapid action flick with over the top CGI and two dimensional acting... instead, this backstory and emotional timeline would have created more interest and depth in the characters.

[@Repossessedurass]

Thanks to the work of the masterful Phil Tippett.

[@mantabond]

The theatrical cut shews much more maturity. It's take discipline to fashion a thing. . .and have it left on the floor.

[@tadasdovii8262]

If movie would follow book it would be way, way , way better

[@Aragorn7884]

it's amazing how well the CG holds up for a movie that came out in '97

[@Michaell22]

A lot of practical effects! wish they still did this a lot!

[@Aragorn7884]

@@Michaell22 yah, CG only enhanced the practical models, not the other way around 🤷🤦

[@boqndimitrov8693]

in the nineties there was a real revolution in computer technology.,which also benefited the cinema.then came jurassic park,terminator 2,...this movie.nothing strange that everything still looks good.

[@themeanhornet1070]

I bought a Federal t shirt from Amazon.

[@bmw328igearhead]

It's amazing when you make a movie in America.... not africa like SST3, or that heap that was SST2

[@carlossilverio7325]

this movie will forever be in my heart, it has aged well too.

[@smartalek180]

Try the book (if you haven't already). In the opinions of many (tho definitely not all), leaves the movie in the space-dust.

[@OGSontar]

I've always loved how Carmen gets her shoulder ran completely through by a bug, and not with a small hole, either, it was huge. Yet, a few minutes later when she's rescued, she slings both arms over the shoulders of her friends just like she didn't have an inches wide hole right through her scapula. Talk about pain control, eh?

[@scotthartman8993]

well since that entire part was made up by Hollywood just like all the other Love interest BS . I would have preferred to this day teh Book as the movie and not just the Title and the Bugs from teh book

[@OGSontar]

@@scotthartman8993 On this, you and I are in 100% agreement. Robert Heinlein was an immensely skilled writer and I honestly don't think Hollywood has had over the last few decades, a writer or even a group of writers skilled enough to make a movie of his books and do the original justice.

[@scotthartman8993]

@@OGSontar I know right.. I would Love to See the Moon is a Harsh Mistress or imagine if they did Friday properly? Fremans Freehold?

[@_Jay_Maker_]

The reason this happened was because Denise Richards had zero basis for her shoulder injury, and was given no direction indicating it. The Victory scene was the very first day of shooting. It's why it makes no sense in the context of every scene prior, because the actors weren't given any context to define it. This is straight from Denise herself.

[@SgtMclupus]

You forget that this whole movie is a parody of how stupid Hero movies are, where magazines are infinate and injuries doesn't effect you in the right way... You can take 4 full swings with a metal bat to the head and still fight, but if you get shot in the stumach, you die within a minute, even though you most likely survive such a shot, but needs medical care

[@kevingray8616]

“A film is born three times. First in the writing of the script, once again in the shooting, and finally in the editing.” - Robert Bresson, French film maker.

[@kyriethika]

I think that the cuts helped make the movie better - except maybe for Carmen's parents not liking Johnny and why.

[@carlfromtheoc1788]

Oh that's easy - she had the smarts to go places and do things and they saw him as a meathead jock that would be a huge millstone around her neck, dragging her down.

[@unclebadger597]

I never understood why Johnny's parents didn't understand why being a citizen was so important. I never realized that THEY weren't citizens. If the movie addresses it, i guess i missed it 🤷‍♂️

[@immapotato1]

in my mind carmen felt very snobby and the cut basically explains it. the superiority complex of a "citizen"

[@kutter_ttl6786]

​@@unclebadger597I always thought the fact they were opposed to Johnny serving and didn't see the importance of citizenship made it clear they weren't citizens themselves.

[@Dularr]

@@unclebadger597 what was unclear was citizenship mean they became fascists. Also unclear is Rico's parents were anti-facist. Or if they were non-political business owners who relied on the marketplaces controlled by the fascist government.

[@pbdye1607]

Know what's annoying? When you *describe* the deleted scenes to us rather than let us listen to them.

[@SayAhh]

Why are you here, then, instead of looking for them elsewhere online? Also, these have been out forever and possibly just news to you. Maybe the voiceover adds more detail, maybe not, but it's their channel.

[@pbdye1607]

@@SayAhh None of the scenes seemed especially long - they could've done *both*.

[@ryantorney5581]

Most Deleted scenes don’t tend to have the sound and voice over work finished before they are cut. Your annoyances are going to remain.

[@SoranPryde]

@@ryantorney5581 Yes, many of these scenes look incomplete. They might not even have audio, with only storyboard or script available to tell us what is going on in those scenes

[@henryhallmann4282]

Dizzy was much better than Carmen !

[@brorjordas1979]

Aw hell-yeah! Dina Meyer completely stole it! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@usern4metak3ns]

yup she was a good girl. at least she got a lil bit of what she wanted.

[@jfangm]

Nah. She was an obssessive stalker. Carmen actually liked Rico for who he was and didn't want him enlisting just to impress her or her family.

[@usern4metak3ns]

@@jfangm Carmen was for the streets. she was a 304. dizzy was loyal and when she had a chance with rico, she took it.

[@jfangm]

@@usern4metak3ns Not accurate in the slightest. Carmen didn't sleep with Zander until AFTER Rico died. And Dizzy only loved the IDEA of Rico. She didn't give two shits about him as a person. Also, Carmen got to "have" Rico first. Meaning Dizzy wasn't good enough for that honor. I'll take smart and competent over a stalker any day.

[@ml0723]

The only one that should have been kept was the one about her parents. It makes Rico less like a tool and more like a every other teenager who got looked down upon by others

[@SoranPryde]

It would have given extra depth as to why he wanted to sign up, to be a citizen (in contrast to his parents) so as to get the girl he loved

[@nigelgrim]

Starship Troopers is a must-watch!

[@Aragorn7884]

a movie ahead of it's time.

[@Reudze]

Ive loved that movie at first watching. The dark humour and society critics are amazing.

[@TravisBerthelot]

The book was written at the end of WWII. So yes, but it was about Fascism and WWII.

[@jeremybstudentpilot5315]

I always wanted to see more of Neil Patrick Harris character in the film. His character was a psychic in military intelligence. Wish I could of seen more of him doing the top secret stuff.

[@Dularr]

Possible. Maybe cover the deployment of the Heavy Nerve Gas. The weapon turned the tide of the war. NPH character using his psychic ability to determine which tunnels to gas.

[@SilverionX]

He looked pretty cool in that pseudo-Nazi uniform, didn't he?

[@p0tat0_Child]

Even though nothing like the book, Still one of my favorite movies.

[@helgageraldine513]

I've seen this on VHS in the 90s as a kid. Honestly, I could care less about the romance part, the movie is fine as it is. The action and CGI are awesome. Now I feel like I want to rewatch this.

[@bmw328igearhead]

4K ultra HD makes a difference.

[@Sean12248]

It's been rereleased in 4K. Still looks great! @@bmw328igearhead

[@DeadGothicRed]

Still one of the best and most misunderstood movies of all time.

[@troywood5463]

Zander didn't need any help to be looked at as a creep. His very first interaction with Carmen said it all... Hi! I'm a SLEEZBALL

[@zerohero6602]

Yeah a real skuzbucket

[@jfangm]

All is fair in love and war.

[@aurorajones8481]

Devils advocate, its not like they were married. Love is fair game. Im sure you acted in a selfish way in one way or another towards attracting someone you liked.

[@rburns9730]

Didn't stop Carmen from monkey branching away from Rico while keeping him in the frenzone. "My last boyfriend got his brains sucked out" "I'll be right there..."

[@jfangm]

@@rburns9730 There is no "friend zone." Nobody is owed a relationship. She dumped him because her career would have kept them apart anyways, especially with Rico in the M.I. And she didn't start a relationship with Zander until after Rico died. And she wasn't so invested that she no longer had feelings for Rico. Zander was a rebound relationship at best and comfort sex at worst. Attitude like yours is what keeps you from having meaningful relationships.

[@sumosupremeking360]

This was definitely one of my favorite movies. The futuristic society, the starships that they had the weapons they had. The storyline was great. The actors played their role, so well I just loved it and they even had a song that I cannot find till this day but I think it was called “All is well.”

[@anonymouscontributor2376]

The song is a David Bowie cover! I just found it here on YT! Look it up under “Starship Troopers Graduation song.” Cheers,

[@sovereign3351]

Zoe Poledouris - I Have Not Been To Paradise

[@Dano12345100]

I liked the movie but they really took a knife to a incredible Robert Heinlein book.

[@marcisca4296]

This is one of my all time favourites when it comes to sci-fi. I've seen it a good few times down the years...

[@MegaDrummerdude13]

I thought it funny but also incredibly disturbing how both Carmen and Johnny seem to be unaffected by the deaths of their bed partners almost immediately.

[@jfangm]

Welcome to the military in wartime, where you push past that shit and get the job done.

[@darrenrobinson9041]

I think everyone in that infantry knew they had a limited lifespan

[@christytauler5672]

Umm..Johnny was ready to blow up the entire bug planet because Dizzy was killed. Carmen was the only one who wasn’t affected by losing her bed partner.

[@jfangm]

@@christytauler5672 She was. We just didn't get to see much of it.

[@christytauler5672]

@@jfangm True. She also was about to be next and had to fight back.

[@chadsix4838]

Love this movie. I totally think all the cuts were necessary, the movie was near perfect in it's theatrical cut.

[@calcariachimera]

Damn I forgot what an amazing film this was

[@phantomapprentice6749]

He doesn't let the deleted scenes play out , he only tells us about it.

[@Sliferzero]

That Memories with this Classic Title my friends. Thanks.

[@kfeltenberger]

I wish they would have added the scene where it shows Johnny’s father survived and was in the MI, too.

[@bellisarius6968]

That would have been amazing, and to see the drill Sargeant promoted to officer

[@adamb3850]

Still one of my favorite movies !

[@brorjordas1979]

Ha! It's probably only two weeks since I watched this the last time! This is a one damn good movie!👍🏻👍🏻 I personally do not care if scenes were left out - but nice to always see them.

[@isaiahblackbeard]

It’s crazy that we’re still talking about this movie

[@KlausKokholmPetersen]

Because it's so brilliant!

[@darrenrobinson9041]

Yes and I would like to know more.

[@gordonmills2748]

I think they needed a scene where Carmen falls over after the reunion with Johnny and Carl due to her giant gaping wound from the brain bug that almost separated her arm and shoulder from her body. Really, that should have killed her. Instead, she's like 'we'll always be friends!"

[@redbaron932]

I get what your saying but I think that's part of the satire running through out the film, when Carmen's ship crash's into another ship in the first bug invasion a massive flame goes across her face which looks like it is going to be fatal and that she is dead, but when we see her again after the 1st failed invasion she just has a cut on her face, also when that massive bug spike goes through Johnny's quad it looks like there is not much left of his leg, yet in the next scene we see him getting his now somewhat smaller wound sowed up and it is not smaller just because it is being sowed up. its poking fun at films and tv serials where at the end of a episode they would show the main character in mortal danger looking like he really is about to die or has died but when you watch the next episode they show the same scene from a completely different angle completely contradicting what they showed us the day before which could be really annoying even when watching it as a kid in other words do not take star ship troopers seriously it is best enjoyed as fun

[@jfangm]

​@redbaron932 The Roger Young didn't crash into another ship. She was grazed by a plasma stream.

[@redbaron932]

@@jfangm excuse me all to hell, but graze is not the word I would use when describing the ship being hit by the plasma stream the flame that you see appear as a result of the ship being hit by the plasma stream looks like it goes into the ship and hits carmen that's the point I was making smart ass

[@kikapuneniya3827]

I would watch this movie damn near every day, I still watch it haha the visual effects of this movie was and still is amazing, better than some modern movies

[@cody1570]

Dizzy was a real keeper man. Heart of gold and the patience of a turtle. She followed him into hell she did.

[@lpg12338]

What a great 90's sci fi movie.

[@2warhammer34]

I was in the test audience for this movie. Very cool experience!

[@grandpaweber2097]

It's a great movie as long as one does NOT compare it to the book it was derived from.

[@grigturcescu6190]

it's amazing how the same story can provide two different opposing views.

[@davidb4090]

Yeah but that’s the norm with most book to movie adaptations

[@TGNXAR]

There's barely the outline of the original story in the movie. Only the names are the same.

[@davidb4090]

@@TGNXARit’s usually the same with the other adaptations I’ve watched

[@tomb7942]

The director didn't even bother reading the book. He wanted to make a movie about a fascist state so he used the book which the rights were available, which was not about a fascist state.

[@davidb4090]

I loved this movie. It was everything a sci-fi movie could be. It had a crappy love story, gore, immensely funny parts, war, spaceships, giant bugs, and psychic powers. Need I say more? It was so corny at points that it was good if that makes sense. Considering it was 97, the special effects and CGI were on point.

[@TheEfvan]

Do yourself a favor. Read the original novel.

[@davidb4090]

@@TheEfvan naw I’m good. If I did it would probably ruin the movie for me. That’s usually the case with the movie and book differences

[@AenesidemusOZ]

I love the movie. I love the book. But then, I tend to not compare movies to books; they both have different mechanisms for engaging me, so I treat them differently.

[@Mikedegot]

When the Kurgan explains the importance of having a blade, you listen.

[@brentmcknight5344]

I remember watching all these scenes from the movies back when I was a kid.

[@francinemorris4622]

I was a stunt double in this movie (IMDb me) and Im glad most of those scenes were deleted. I liked the final product and watch it to this day. They spent tons and tons of money for this movie. I replaced a stuntwoman on this show I originally turned down 3 times😆I think the craft service (food) was the best I ever had. A tidbit of movie trivia: the space scene where the liquid in the glass indicates a gravity field: This took most of a day of filming to get it right. I always wondered why that specific scene was so important it had to be perfect. Also, during the Zander and Rico fight scene neither actor wanted to get the least hits in so there was equal punches, tit for tat on the actual stunt

[@Cokehead_Drug_Addict_Zelensky]

You need to tell these goofballs in the comments that there was never a "bug rape scene" when the woman got dragged into that hole.

[@Taiko-THC349]

What did happen then?@@Cokehead_Drug_Addict_Zelensky

[@meliodashewitt9547]

Can't lie this really gives a lot of perspective of the happenings going on in the movie.

[@truthseeker6532]

This movie is a GEM!!!!

[@ChosenKryptonian]

This was such a great movie

[@josteinhenrique2779]

I love how, despite "Starship Troopers" being a satire, Johnny Rico is a legitimately likeable and sympathetic character: he struggles with grades; he's kinda discriminated for his parents not being Federation citizens; despite being wealthy and rich, he joins the Mobile Infantry to earn the approval of the parents of his romantic interest and to prove his worth... If a remake/reboot of Starship Troopers were launched today, I'm pretty sure Johnny Rico would either be turned into a moronic, stereotypical blonde jock, or replaced by a diverse female character for ESG/DEI points, with the producers completely ignoring the original Starship Troopers was already very diverse.

[@newriverpearl]

I'm glad some of the scenes with Zander were removed, as I ended up liking him pretty well as the movie went on.

[@okumabear]

Johnny: "Carmen, why won't you have sex with me?" Carmen: "Because my implant scars haven't fully healed yet."

[@AKUJIVALDO]

What implant?

[@okumabear]

@@AKUJIVALDO Her tits are as real as a 7 dollar bill, my dude.

[@woebringer7884]

@@AKUJIVALDO ImplantS As in plural

[@AKUJIVALDO]

@@woebringer7884 what implants? What they fk do? What implants you implant in the vagoo?

[@markpaxton144]

Barney Stinson had the best disguise in starship troopers

[@unclebadger597]

He was legen............................................. DARY

[@romanvalenzuela7017]

We need a directors cut 😮

[@ianstradian]

Now if we could get a Starship Troopers movie that is true to the source material. That would be awesome! Power armor. Massive battles.

[@martykarr7058]

And the best part, to disprove rumors of Heinlein being, would be to cast Johnny as he was in the book, not an SS recruiting poster boy like this movie, but a Filipino.

[@markiavelli1]

There's a sequel titled Starship Troopers: Marauder. That has them using power armor.

[@jfangm]

​@@markiavelli1 And it was shit.

[@jfangm]

It would not be awesome. In fact; making it true to the source material would make it more like Atlas Shrugged. The majority of the book is politics, not war.

[@stillcantbesilencedevennow]

​@@martykarr7058ya realize he plays a south American in Starship troopers, right? The only SS down there escaped in the 40s and perished in the 90s.

[@samobispo1527]

The uniforms used in the movie are surplus East German Border Guard gear. In the book, the surprise twist was that Johnny Rico was FILIPINO.

[@TroySpace]

It's like the trick question the teacher asks you to find out if you REALLY read the book (Verhoeven didn't).

[@trooper-talk]

Thx for sharing ❤

[@foxxy_boxxy6662]

I think it was pretty smart of them to cut the extra stuff between Xander and Carmen. They already implied there's tension there.

[@iamrobot6133]

Rico…you know what to do!

[@RMBOYD81]

we're all Johny and that's why we love this movie

[@corywaters2723]

Carmen in the book was no one's girl and treated all the boys with equal sweetness.

[@scary_scat3924]

I love how happy and loving carmen was with a 6inch hole in her shoulder

[@nobodynoonenowhere5609]

This movie had deeper meanings!😂😂

[@martykarr7058]

Actually, this version has more in common with "The Forever War" than "Starship Troopers".

[@MrFas4wd]

This is one movie I will always pine for sequels and closure. It had so much to offer and I wanted it all. Such a waste of a prospective franchise.

[@charlesphillips1468]

It will take another generation to get Starship Troopers right on video.

[@perfectionbox]

Good thing Dizzy got to be with Rico, otherwise her life would've been a raw deal 🤣

[@tehhaldiniho]

this was like my 40K movie when i used to collect lol

[@dunhilda7095]

I love this movie.

[@schwegburt3002]

Interesting stuff. I prefer how the final cut portrays Zander in a more neutral and sympathetic light.

[@jasontodd6822]

One of my all time favorite movies. I think all the scenes here would of made the movie better except for the Zanders scenes and the final kiss with Johnny and Carmen. I agree the kiss would of made it cliché. I liked in the theatrical they stay true to their word with the 3 of them that they will always be friends and it shows how much Johnny has grown from the beginning of the movie to the end. Zander was a dick but those scenes made him more creepy and it be weird to show Carmen have a interest in him as a rebound thinking Johnny is dead. I liked in the theatrical for Zander. yeah Zander dies but he atleast tried get some redemption by helping Carmen get off the ship and protecting Carmen till the end and giving her a last final chance to survive with the knife.

[@jaredgary9773]

Carmen was the main villain making him wait and hooking up with that guy dizz is the true hero ❤❤❤ and I would have left her ass with the bug lol

[@SeanoldBeasley]

These scenes being removed should be considered crimes and whomever is responsible should be considered treason to the federation and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of Terran law. It adds SO much depth to the characters imo

[@armorofgod1430]

Fun fact: The actor that played Zander also played "Jeff" from Saved by the Bell, who Kelly dumped Zack for. He is THAT guy

[@FrazzledNiya]

Funny I actually rewatched this movie just a few days ago. 😂

[@woebringer7884]

Same here!

[@OjiOtaku]

This is one of those movies titled after a book, that the screen play writers used about half a chapter from the book to "flavor" the movie. Obviously, they didn't actually read it. As a sci-fi movie it is good! It is not, however, Starship Troopers as the nook was written. They kept names and some places but failed in even a close proximity to the book. Again, as a sci-fi movie it was good.

[@cryogeneric]

Such a campy flick--but I love it.

[@JCchan99]

I tryed to like this movie so hard... to no avail.

[@BartDRockTroll]

Dam smart decision axing those scenes.

[@R3troZone]

To also make you hate Zander more, there's a panel in the official comic book adaption of the movie that also came out in 1997, where while on the bridge of the Roger Young, Zander tells Carmen that the military encourages marriage within their flight teams.

[@invictusmaneo464]

Je čas začít navazovat přátelské vztahy s bejvalkama :D Hlavně s těma bez důstojnosti :D

[@stuartspiker732]

Removing those Xander scenes was a good call.

[@aliamin2159]

Why lol

[@stuartspiker732]

@@aliamin2159 cause it didnt add to the story really, and added un needed conflict, this was mostly a cheesy action flick, it didnt need to show that Xander was a jerk, we already got that.

[@aliamin2159]

@@stuartspiker732 lol yeah that makes sense, didnt fit with the rest of the movie. Probably should’ve included the deleted scenes with carmen in the beginning though.

[@B-26354]

Watched this with the wife the other week, it was the first time shes seen it. First thing she commented on was how Dizzy was better Carmen 😂 Glad I married her. 😂

[@TheRewasder97]

I was born the same year this movie released. Now I join the fight for Freedom and Sweet Liber-Tea. I am doing my part, do you?

[@mwarthurs22]

I'm doing my part !!!!!

[@MariaMartinez-researcher]

This film is like three movies in one. There's the front story, the aliens, the battles, the love triangle: blockbuster fun. There's the dark story behind: a totalitarian society, where the *only* way to have a place in society and basic human rights like having children is by bearing arms. All the teachers are mutilated veterans. A dystopian nightmare. (The intersection of anti-alien propaganda ads, is reminiscent of American war propaganda in WWII. That included propaganda Disney shorts, The Three Stooges shorts, etc.) The "growing" the narrator talks about is actually the dehumanizing of the characters. As the movie advances, they become killing machines. The end of the romance at the end means they don't love anything anymore, they don't care. The psychic guy was nice and compassionate, he became a torturer. The scene in which he proclaims the brain bug is afraid poses a question: are the aliens attacking, or defending themselves? Finally, the breaking of the fourth wall hints at all that we watched was a piece of militaristic propaganda, aimed at making us insensitive to death and cruelty, willing to applaud never-ending massacres of aliens who are never given a chance to communicate and explain themselves. Very interesting movie.

[@AKUJIVALDO]

Except it is nothing but a parody of real book. Because "director" didn't like it as being "militaristic"... Ya reetrad, it is a book about war!

[@MariaMartinez-researcher]

@@AKUJIVALDO Didn't know there were "real books" and "not-real books"...

[@jfangm]

​@@AKUJIVALDO It isn't even a parody. To parody something, you have to understanding it. Verhoeven didn't understand the libertarian society of the Terran Federation. He heard a friend say "service guarantees citizenship" and his brain jumped to "tHaTs LiKe ThE nAzIs." Somehow.

[@jacobbedingfield993]

If Rico was supposed to be dumb, does that mean his dad bought his way into Harvard?

[@AKUJIVALDO]

Mom cheated with Chad citizen instead of having child with nerd? LOL

[@ricardog2165]

Zander got over Carmen and fell for Buffy 😆

[@SelectStart89]

I really loved this movie. The sequels didn't gave it justice. I hope they make a sequel reboot.

[@akula444]

I wonder how many people realise the humans are the villains in this film?

[@evilsohn]

@looper - Is there a link to the video available that the dialogue of the now older cast members was taken off of?

[@samobispo1527]

The deleted scenes would have given so much depth to the brain-dead version we got in the theater.

[@johnathant9832]

they should release the deleted scenes, this would make the movie worth watching again

[@davidc6032]

The movie would've been terrible with all the cheesy love triangle silliness. Good choice. The theatrical cut is a bit psycho and cold-blooded which is why it's so good.

[@davvader]

My life for SUPER EARTH

[@IcedZer0]

I love this movie BUT it is definitely one movie that requires a remake closer to the book.

[@jfangm]

Nah. The book is too poltical to be interesting.

[@jasonmeister6988]

Denise in her primes tops most of what we have in 2024 bro... damn

[@andrewkamoha4666]

Denise was outstanding at that time ...

[@jamesfry8983]

The book was amazing

[@Kermit_T_Frog]

I didn't even know that "Starship Troopers" existed. Or maybe, I just forgot.

[@lpg12338]

You are in for a treat, it is a fun movie to watch. 👍

[@gonzo26nix]

holy carp.. those scenes would have made the movie so much better.

[@HD2Gameplay]

HD2 brought me here

[@EstarH100]

Greetings fellow Helldiver

[@upandaljm]

Teat audiences HATED Carmen. Hence the cuts.

[@jfangm]

I actually like her and have since I first saw the movie at age 13. To me, Dizzy was always the crazy stalker who was obsessed with the IDEA of Johnny Rico, but was never actually intetested in Rico the person. She proves this when her parting words are not "I love you," but rather, "at least I got to have you." Carmen was smart, strong-willed, and knew what she wanted in her life. She also cared about Rico as a person enough to try and discourage him from enlisting, which she KNEW was just an attempt to impress her and her father. It always makes me smile hearing Dizzy say "at least I got to have you," knowing that Carmen had him first. #Ibanezisbestgirl

[@chrisward000]

Test audiences might have hated her, but I guarantee that the teat audience liked her a lot!

[@markberman6708]

Fun movie, book is great.

[@LCDVF]

All this Hugo Boss Nazi SS styling for the costumes (ivador/imperial style) adds up nicely

[@newbutthunt]

Every man watched this movie for Denise Richards in her prime.

[@kenbrown2808]

Diz was the right woman for Johnny, and I'll die on that hill.

[@brorjordas1979]

​@@ooneybird27Yup. Dina Meyer, any given day - or night!

[@jfangm]

​​@@kenbrown2808 No. She was the creepy, obsessive stalker who did everything Rico did just to impress and stalk him. Carmen actually cared about Johnny and tried to dissuaded him from enlisting because she knew he was doing it to impress her and her father. She understood WHY he wanted to be a citizen, and she did not think it was a good motivation. I think THAT was why she dumped him. She wanted him to either go home or find a REAL reason to serve. It wasn't just her career ambitions. Plus, she was smart, strong, skilled, confident, and knew what she wanted. Dizzy was always second place. Hell, Corporal Birdie would heavy been better than that crazy redhead.

[@kenbrown2808]

@@jfangm and that's why she was flirting with Zander at the jumpball game; right? and swapped johnny for him as soon as they were in fleet together. no, Diz was friendzoned and wanted more; and joined MI to get closer; but she was always there for Johnny, whereas Carmen was there for Carmen, and you could see it in everything she did.

[@jfangm]

@@kenbrown2808 So she was flirting. It's pretty harmless. And she didn't ditch Rico for Zander. She dumped Rico because she wanted to be free to focus on her career. Dizzy was NEVER there for Rico. She was there for the IDEA of Rico, but never him as a person. Her last words were literally a reflection of the pettiness. And yes, Carmen was only ever in it for Carmen, as ANYONE in a relationship should be. Nobody is ever in a relationship for the other person's own good. That's why Carmen was a better match. She was more invested in their relationship.

[@lemursdangerzone4119]

IDK man, i just watched it for the first time in ages, because of games out right now. The point of Ricos family being non citizens was pretty clearly established without these scenes. Also, the firction it had on their relationship, and why Rico decided to join. still enjoyed the vid

[@donc9275]

Yes, I want to know more

[@franckluciani9284]

More romance in this movie would have definitely been too much and missing the whole message and atmosphere of this brilliant masterpiece. Good choices in the end to remove them. I only wish the two sequels they did after would have been at least half as good as the first one. These were just plain sad to watch as an absolute fan of the first one.

[@Tracer-Round]

You can literally Buy the Actual Cut that has most of this in it. I have it on DvD