Delivering an Iron Ore Train from the Mine to the Smelter in Railroads Online!

Hey everyone and welcome back to more Railroads Online! Today we are finally going to use the big Heisler gear train to retrieve the iron ore from the iron mine and deliver it to the smelter! This trip has been a long time coming and I'm super excited to finally start producing some iron products at the smelter! ‪@DapperEcho‬
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[@whatthefunk05]

Fun fact: standing at the back of the train and directing the engineer is an actual practice, mostly on short lines

[@callumhardy5098]

Yes the ‘guard’ would have a so called ‘brake van’ to stand in at the rear of the train, this would control the trains brakes and have direct communication to the driver usually by a bell or a whistle and red and green flags.

[@whatthefunk05]

@@callumhardy5098 yep, and this is also sometimes done on American lines too, usually using a retired caboose, on which a crew member calls to the engineer via radio

[@FUBAR19]

@@callumhardy5098 we call it watching the point! or a protected shoved

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

am neow træn smert

[@aj_gaming136]

Correct

[@xakkerys]

Patch notes from steam: -fixed tree removal bug: server and client trees will stay in synch even when all trees on the map are removed; When loading an old save there might be some new trees on the rails/grades -removed deforestation costs for players

[@programorprogrammed]

Doing gods work. Thank you.

[@neko7684]

Happened to me too. Learned the same way kAN did... twice.

[@natelovestotank2363]

Mr. Beast wants to know your location

[@horatioyen256]

13:59

[@coltonregal1797]

They removed the logging cost literally the day after I went $7900 in debt to build my first iron mine route lol

[@SirFloofy001]

100% you need to keep betsy in service as a shunter at the main yard so you dont have to constantly use your big engines burning a lot of wood to shunt trains around.

[@devinfaux6987]

Instead of a full loop at the iron mine, you could put in a second track and switches so that you can move the locomotive from one end of the train to the other.

[@havoc1013]

or a tighter loop and just connect to the same line to turn the whole train around to go down the correct way

[@jackstephenson5238]

Aka a runaround track

[@jordyboy62]

Maybe add a turntable for extra pizazz

[@Leftysrev3nge]

Or an Immelman loop

[@static_7742]

Kan: "luckily we have saves in this game so that we dont lose a couple grand" people in debt because of car crash: "I wish life had saves too"

[@BlueAustinMaxi]

I'm getting a feeling you're talking from experience lol

[@gamingwolfboy4130]

Yea he probably is

[@nopenope8418]

How can you be in debt from a car crash? Just wondering?

[@tropicalvikingcreations]

@@nopenope8418 Insurance and repair costs, disturbed business flow.

[@Scootertuner420]

@@tropicalvikingcreations Shouldn´t an insurance cover the costs of your crash? At least they do in germany

[@milessaxton]

Little known fact: there was a time that seasonal trains would go over a frozen lake. Very dangerous actually

[@MissKavaMay]

IRL Polar Express

[@harrytodhunter5078]

I think you should build a run round loop at the iron mine, so you can go back down the mountain engine-first. Probably less chance of a derailment. EDIT: By "Run round loop", I mean a bypass line, not a full on balloon loop.

[@harrytodhunter5078]

*It will also save time and space instead of making a full balloon loop like you talked about.

[@ttyler7256]

I don't believe there is enough space at the mine to do a loop the size kan does. I believe he makes 20 or 30 degree since the big trains need a larger radius.

[@notmuch_23]

@@ttyler7256 I did a loop with like, half of it on wood trestle...

[@mrdrummer2564]

Just do a bypass loop, maybe with a turntable. Train does a run around to the other end. Like steam powered passenger trains would do at terminals and branch lines

[@harrytodhunter5078]

@@mrdrummer2564 Thats what I mean by "Run round loop", a parralel line with switches each end. I guess UK and US teriminology are different.

[@SapioiT]

It would be nice to see 5-6 people at once on your server, each running a different train on a different route.

[@andybaker2324]

In one of the patch notes, they said after changing something that trees might appear in places they were cut down.

[@NuggetUnit]

I work for a railroad with pretty steep grades in mountain territory. The ruling grade for my section is around 2.5%. I'm still a student engineer with less than a year experience operating and every night coming down the hills makes me nervous as all hell. Lots of stuff to consider and keep track of even if your train is only a half mile long.

[@joshronson3480]

The developers said in their discord server that they have done something with the spawing of the trees and they said that trees may spawn on your tracks

[@TuxLetsPlay]

yeah it was in the update log as well. I was caught off guard by it too. Just casually driving my train along my route and just hitting a tree that wasn't there before....

[@VestedUTuber]

Oh... regarding not using Betsy anymore, once you've got a larger line with a lot of loads going around you should start building small yards at each industry so you can just pick up or drop off cars as needed with the bigger locomotives, and then use the small porters to handle loading and unloading at each industry. This is a common practice on real-life lines with larger industries and at marshalling yards since it allows you to keep stuff moving.

[@nathansherman5684]

For mountaining, modern trains use a type of brake called “dynamic braking” I can’t really go into detail since it’s been a while since I’ve talked about it, but basically it’s a limiter brake

[@Old_Gunslinger_Wild_Bill]

i thought they can put the steam locos in reverse and put the reg at 30 precent as a way of engine braking but that might cause weelslip or derail the train

[@IndustrialParrot2816]

it uses the traction motors to provide resistance

[@Old_Gunslinger_Wild_Bill]

@@IndustrialParrot2816 yes it turns the traction motors into generators wich creates resestance

[@LilScrewmatic]

it uses the electric part of the diesel electric motor as a brake

[@jackstephenson5238]

Dynamic brakes use the traction motors to create resistance, slowing the train. The energy created from this action is released as heat.

[@snyparaustralis540]

in this episode: Kan does his best Buster Keaton in 'The General' impression

[@Raine_Beaux]

Ngl last hope is a dope name

[@randywise5241]

If you ever get to Silverton Colorada, ride the Silverton to Durango line. It is an old steam train tour ride. Goes through a valley over some awesome cliffs.

[@IconicDavexD]

Would actually love a livestream with kan and Co. just chill building tracks and running cars. Maybe a multi stream on twitch would be awesome 😎

[@emuusama9735]

agreed!

[@libra3655]

Kan, something for consideration. You can possibly make some stub end tracks of finished product just to help make larger potential loads. Either solid consists of cars with matching loads or whole consists for certain industries to minimize loading times, or just to have a little more to bring with each load and leave at the facility that will utilize those resources

[@launcesmechanist9578]

Oh, by the way, the new update MAY have replanted some of the trees. 😅 Recommend you walk your track or use a handcar to make sure your lines are still unobstructed. 😆 Also, removing trees is free now. 😁 Yep, wood money is cheap. How cheap? It grows on trees! Also, tree bug = termites.

[@javiermedina9080]

I personally think that you should still use Betsy as a shunter ( kind of what she looks to be designed for) as it is a bit harder to do so with the larger engines, compared to shunters that can more easily, faster and more effectively move around yards and shunting lanes.

[@allengardiner3521]

The time lapse was a great addition to the video!

[@jamesvokral8247]

Here is what I think kAN. I need more train videos! I could watch you play this all day haha.

[@klaytonbernard8262]

It may help with the speed issue to have a Betsy Infront of the Heisler and use the Betsy as a speed boost and heisler as torque

[@laggy1089]

Listening to convo, Driving trains across ice is an actual thing that use to be done. Temporary rails would apparently be laid out over frozen lakes.

[@kentongates8224]

It would be really cool to see them add tunneling

[@darkstone_official_2427]

This is what I like to do, I like to take scenic runs through forests and mountains all the while hauling or going to pick up some goods.

[@caked3953]

By the view, the sense of accomplishing or kind of both, or something compleatly else my stupid head is not aware of?

[@darkstone_official_2427]

@@caked3953 Just the sense that I'm doing something productive while taking a ride on a train through scenic terrain is like my favorite thing to do. So to see this (my computer can't run good games like this) is awesome. I usually play a minecraft mod called Traincraft or 'Trains in Motion' as it'll be called soon so I like trains. I also have some model ones lying around.

[@shivr5836]

25:33 --- train vibe baby lovely. Good music totally relaxing. It is the ultimate relaxation therapy ----- 27:36 love you man keep the juice flowing❤️

[@samgineer9857]

With this time lapse, I can see we took basically the exact same route to the Iron Mine. Except my max grade is 4% and I'm sticking with having to run around the train with a passing track at the mine in order to return down the way you came. At the plateau before the steep climb I mean. I went around the Smelter valley because I plan on building a Museum by the waterfall which is where my approach on the plateau meets where you went up to the Iron Mine. You should come check it out! You can actually see the difference of how I built track when I started and how I build track now! It's actually pretty cool!

[@maxsonstegink4802]

Loving these new trains online episodes

[@GreatLakesStateProductions6708]

You should do more of those smooth Timelapse train runs

[@MrJewsbury]

oooooooo perfect time to end my work shift

[@alexpym8216]

Best RR online content right here👍

[@themusicman1556]

Dapper and kAN: "Hmm yes yes indeed that is most fascinating" Meanwhile: SCREEEEEEEEEECH

[@rtpproductions609]

YEAHHHH MOAR TRAINZ

[@AlovicGrim]

Due to not seeing if you saved between points really worried my anxiety xD It would be nice to know that you saved between. great run!

[@VestedUTuber]

Oh, regarding the trees, they changed how those are saved and occasionally it causes trees that used to be there to respawn. They shouldn't come back a second time, though.

[@nonoaidnono]

I think it’s fun how imperfect and not user friendly this game is. I get it it’s in development, it’s fine. But I think it adds a massive sense of challenge and accomplishment when you do finish something. If you could lay track super easy and trains didn’t glitch you’d finish the game super quick.

[@caked3953]

Interesting point, but it depends on what you go for. People that need a experience and don't want to "waste" RL time, it's bad. But I still think that after some work you have a better feeling of accomplisment and so a slower game can be nice. I allways liked to look onto a complex but solved work, so I love a good time use, but a game should never feel like work. Maybe ( my opinion ) there is a point in live where you should invest your time to accomplish things in RL rather than in a game, depending on how you use your own life. I gamed a lot, but now I work on my own life. Long story short: it's allways a balance

[@jackstaller3974]

I love how you named it the Last Hope I think that it's the perfect name.

[@diamondapocalypse5019]

if trunks likes trains:

[@playevator]

yet again, another great video! keep it up kan!

[@killvish99]

Really enjoyed the time lapse..good work 🤟🏻

[@zedena1413]

I love these, I cant wait for the next episode!

[@justindioncre456]

I would LOVE to help you hauling cargo with the trains :D A view hours a day keeps the boring not planned anything days away :P

[@thetomgamerboi6817]

Revenge of the tree! Looking forward to a possible day/night cycle and what else your rail co gets up to!

[@shawnhiggins1005]

Imagine this, a world to riches 2 people at each station one driver, and a set of 2 pairs to run the produced wood to the iron mines, all closed loops with split offs to the freight for sales.

[@Chexmix6]

Loved the timelapse!

[@brianlarsen9952]

I was just able to reach the iron mine last week. I was able to fit a turn a round but barely. About to deliver my first iron ore to the smelter now. This game is great fun. Cheers

[@boom-CM]

Kan: hey scrapman I wanna make a time lapse and I need chill music can you give me something Scrapman: I gotcha *Plays with the best guitar strumming ive ever heard*

[@TheRogueBro]

I bet that explains the weird glitch you had when you were derailing for no reason... The game still thought there was trees there even though there wasn't. So after that update it spawned them back in

[@irisical8934]

nice

[@gordonramsay6160]

I think You got the first comment

[@jessicaparde6819]

@Gordon Ramsay he did

[@Fantaman900]

it looks like the area where you cleared trees is cleared a bit more with the tree bug fix. Because where I didn't cut trees but have build foundation the trees are still there but around the bridge I only cleared touching tress and now there is lots of space.

[@scuba_otter]

Love the videos with Dapper on this game!

[@ArcticGamez]

ive filled the iron pile up solo sure it took like 2 weeks or something but was nice seeing a tall mound

[@atefxf]

The music is perfect, love the mood in this vid :D

[@JeffreyCasserly]

You need a runaround track to move your loco to the front of the train. Real world regs require the loco to lead as a precaution against derailing, and it it just makes sense anyway since you have full visibility, brake control and access to switches.

[@faustobryan2745]

i love this series so much

[@Chevallier87]

KAN! You had the opportunity!! "Heislen-berg" Ahhh

[@vikingwarriorlofotr2988]

Drinking game: one shot every time dapper says "true". Good luck standing 🤣

[@angelusmortis3256]

You can push the regulator higher on the hiesler... turn the sander on and you can go to like 72/75 % and it will climb a 10% grade like a champ...

[@danredacted4630]

YES TRAIN!

[@tropicalvikingcreations]

Okay cool! Thankfully the Iron bug is fixed. Nice!

[@2countries1god]

Question...why don't you ever save before doing something like loading iron ore or dropping off logs? It seems that it would help you in the event something goes wrong because you can quickly reload and try again.

[@spicy_taco2267]

He does

[@2countries1god]

@@spicy_taco2267 it just seems like he doesn't sometimes and has to reload from further back. Thanks for letting me know

[@spicy_taco2267]

@@2countries1god I don’t really know exactly how much he saves but there’s usually a little cut to when he’s done loading and i believe he saves there.

[@forsakenghost7054]

@@2countries1god he saves quite a bit not at every stop he makes but a lot of them

[@dogobeast97]

You should see how fast you can get a train going, and maybe take it off some jumps

[@boom-CM]

You should use the Betsy's as shunt yard trains instead of retiring them :)

[@realmsattire2465]

I’m surprised I found your channel 4 years later after I stop watching. Cool video 🤌👌

[@beforever]

the climax is a monster, it can pull anything it's just painfully slow

[@Karagianis]

I wonder if they might add snow sheds at some point? would be a nice addition for mountain lines.

[@Theodrehad]

This game is getting better each day every day :)

[@jammiedodger7040]

You should put a turntable at the iron mine so you can Flip the train around

[@systemred0944]

I have a feeling Kan worked with trains in a previous life

[@deltacx1059]

Me and a friend just got the class 70. The brakes on it are great and it has good speed and capacity but is slow to accelerate.

[@yourmother5943]

Loving this series

[@aldon1436]

For the iron mine plan just bring on viewers and get an army of Betsys lol

[@nonoaidnono]

I think now you have more engines, it would be fun to have 2 different trains following each other around the map. Then both (or more) players all get to have continuous things to do, rather than just one person doing most the work. Don’t get me wrong it’s still very fun just a suggestion

[@christianjohnson9190]

You can be able to set 10% of brakes on any cut of cars, like 1/10 cars can the brakes be on and apply as many brakes to keep the cars stay in place

[@bensthebest]

There’s been another update that changes the tree spawns. It’s made trees respawn in places you have taken them down

[@deltacx1059]

I love the difference in track laying philosophy between me and my friend. He is more like you and follows the land, I on the other hand just brute force giant bridges across the valley so they can be straight as possible.

[@IndustrialParrot2816]

my plan is too just make a parralel trestle and run a 3% grade line up to the iron mine

[@1982jeepcj8]

The LORAX appeared and said " I speak for the the trees and I am here to break you knees"

[@ARandomSpy]

if you look at the moment before kAN goes to chop at 5:14 you can see the tree just vibing there like, "hahha tree on tracks go brrrrr"

[@LucasL512]

Love the RAiLRoADs ONliNe at the beginning xD

[@U_Geek]

I switched to train from bus for getting to and from university and the route just happens to end at one of if not the bussyest stations in my country. There were trains getting shunted left and right while I was waiting for my train it was ceazy the amount of stuff happening all the time.

[@NinjaInTheFirstDegree]

I heard you say ""itd be cool to run like 20 Trains!!"" so i *ALSO* fired up a 24/7 Server that is served by fiber

[@TheBlueScreenYT]

Honestly I would like to see the devs add a caboose to the game for multiplayer. Edit: you’re welcome lol

[@SeaKing61]

You can use the wye between the smelter and iron mine to turn the train so you don't have to go everywhere backwards

[@ThatE4]

Test class 70 on the hill if you get it, if it can pull more than the Heisler, call it ' Miracle '

[@simpson2008gaming]

But think of the drawbacks though it has a long rigid wheelbase the Heisler has two bogeys which makes it able to take tighter curves than the class 70

[@Some_Cow]

Just made dinner, LETS GOOOOO

[@Alpha-15]

Hey man I love your videos please keep it up

[@pothoc1]

Kerbo was saying that the trees in the track bug should be fixed now. During this bug fix a lot of the trees respawned in tracks for one last time.

[@Dimondminer11]

YEAAAHHH DAPPER!!!

[@4034qwerty]

nice timelapse :)

[@katerinakittycat3849]

The Heisler is built for the kind of work you're asking it to do. It as was the climax and the shay. I wonder if they will add the shay eventually

[@kabato48]

It's on the Devs list of engines. I believe they have 7 different Shay models planned eventually.

[@katerinakittycat3849]

@@kabato48 we really only need like one or two varrients of the shay they can also introduce other engines like the ebt mikes or the k series mikes. They should also bring in passengers too

[@kabato48]

@@katerinakittycat3849 I did put the idea of passengers on the idea board last week so It's good to know I'm not the only one that wants them. I have a picture of all of the trains they are interested in that include an articulated engine.

[@katerinakittycat3849]

@@kabato48 not only that but different environment choices would also be nice the are so may directions this game can go in

[@katerinakittycat3849]

@@kabato48 I also wonder if we might see diesels at some point too

[@poloice2402]

I’ve been waiting for you to upload

[@Tankling28]

I really want to see you ride down your mountain pass on just one car. Full roller coaster

[@locke_ytb]

Great work today's episode (even though this is 11 month ago, still great)

[@thatonetrainguy864]

the tree thing is really weird some trees vanish and some appear on the track, it’s normal

[@Warthunder_Ripltides]

Do more time lapses like that love it

[@spongeorpete7289]

Cool

[@southernwolfgaming]

Hey man. You got to get all of the cars and trains

[@danser_theplayer01]

Bridges are expensive, kANs track sticking to the mountain contour is actually a cheaper way of building if we were to talk about realism.

[@derschredder2368]

„Your Honor i swear that tree wasn’t there a second ago!“

[@jj-lw5xx]

Kan proceeds to say choo choo but forgot he has a whistle