DELPHI TRIAL DAY 7: "Magic Bullet" & Gun Analysis

[@MrGmanDan]

The problem with the testimony of the "firearms expert" is she was unable to reproduce the markings found on the crimescene round by manually ejecting a new round from RA's firearm. She had to actually fire the gun in order to get a marking match or consistency. The explosive force inside the chamber was what caused the reproduced markings with the extractor/ejector. A complete round manually ejected from a weapon that was flawed in some way to produce the markings found on the crimescene round. Why weren't 20-30 other Sig 226's examined to see if these marking appear when the round is manually ejected from them? The investigation of the firearm and unspent round is an improper study.

[@jakethehitman-187]

I think she was getting same markings with ejections but used fired round because it was easier to see??

[@ObserverDingue]

Exactly. And there are other issues too. This evidence is so weak as to actually challenge the definition of the word. As to "beyond a reasonable doubt" forget about it.

[@evega1485]

Right, different methodology to me make the results invalid. I'm undecided whether I think he's guilty or not but this doesn't hold any weight for me and even less so because the defense is unable to counteract this with their expert.

[@EmotionalLemonade]

@@jakethehitman-187 but hat makes the markings different. this is why this testimony isn't now allowed in 4 states as it's not actual science

[@ObserverDingue]

@@evega1485 The defense will not be able to call their own ballistic expert witness??? Wtf?? Are you sure of that? I just assumed that they would and at that point the demolition of this so-called eveidence would be completed.

[@pantherpaw9]

I’ve had many times in my life someone describe to me what happened at an event I could not attend. I’ve always walked away feeling that certain void from knowing the description could never match actually being there. The way you explain what happened, I actually feel as if I was there. Brilliant job !!

[@HiddenTrueCrime]

I appreciate you saying that, that’s what I strive for!

[@violatrujillo]

Yes Lauren. You are brilliant.

[@ninaschultz6922]

Absolutely agree, Lauren is such a great reporter, amazing journalism. With real grace for victims‘ families, too ❤ my heart is with them ❤❤❤ I am amazed at how Lauren is able to describe off notes what happened during day at court. I always (!) feel I can trust in Lauren‘s work when I see it, and therefore I can actually trust in what she says 😊❤ such a great journalist, so sincere ❤

[@WelshOracle]

Amazing work thank you Lauren ❤ For complete context which will complement Lauren’s detailed work Grey Hughes has done two videos on the bridge and area - completely terrified me. 1. Terrifying Delphi Bridge Guy 2. Delphi - Knowing the Crime Scene Area He uses animation on First one and it is just waking across that bridge was giving me anxiety but also when he approached at the end of the Bridge was terrifying and you could really feel how they felt.😢.

[@DarkCriimes]

@@w8tingonuI presume Lauren knows shorthand ? Amazing details ! Really great work 🙏❤️

[@westboundpony]

Thank you for being a soldier for our benefit. After waiting for a resolution for almost 7 years, the lack of transparency is disappointing. I wish we had access to audio at least. Thank you for what you do and for Dr John for holding down the fort!!

[@HandbagDiva]

I can’t believe it’s been 7 years already. Just thinking about Abby & Libby would be 20/21 years old now. So sad. If he did do this, why?

[@kimlersue]

I LOVE this Jury! Their questions were exactly what I wanted to ask! Keeping BIAS out of this is so important...Thank You!

[@bongodave13]

The jury seems to be very engaged, and It's good they're asking questions. They know that guilt or innocence is their decision. They want to do it right.

[@lindseyhendrix2405]

Amen to that! It’s one thing I find myself anchoring hope to during this trial… the jury seems very technical, curious, and intelligent.

[@kimlersue]

@@w8tingonu I also pray for the jury. Regardless of the verdict..this is very very difficult for them!

[@MamaT447]

Funny story time: My German Shepherd hears when Lauren is on my TV. He comes into whatever room I watch her in. He sits down to watch her with me. 😍 This morning I finally started listening to this video. When Lauren started buffering Liam started whining at the TV. When the sound got better he let out a big sigh. 😂 (FYI- when he hears or sees Chad Daybell on TV he growls! 😂)

[@jennhoff]

I love this!! ❤

[@HeyTarz]

Oh I love that 😂❤

[@SiljCBcnr]

He clearly is a true crime buff dog with a sense for quality

[@sharoncruzen1942]

Dogs are always wiser than humans.😊

[@60andSane]

My German Shepard does this too, watches the TV with us at times.

[@TheMogjo]

Having experience with firearms, being a LEO for 20 years and after listening to your commentary I think the defense proved the point on the spent or just cycled line of questions. She was not able to see or ID properly with the cycled cases, only with the fired ones. Now will the jury understand, not sure. To the point in your commentary that they have not asked questions as of yet. Great stuff, thanks for what you do

[@erinjenkins4738]

Thank you for all your hard work! I live in Columbus Indiana and we want these precious girls to get justice❤

[@OliveGreen0516]

I'm blown away at how well you are doing at bringing this information to us. Thank you so much.

[@HiddenTrueCrime]

I appreciate it, I try my best to be thorough.

[@amyhenningsgard8618]

I’ve seen her testify at a different trial. Very knowledgeable and well spoken.

[@rustyjames2010]

I'm a new subscriber because of your meticulous coverage. Great job! I was very interested in this case. Subscriber forever now!

[@HiddenTrueCrime]

Thanks so much!

[@yolandaanderson4697]

Rewatch here. First time comment. Thank you for all you're doing for us and for Libby and Abby.

[@joann5075]

OMG ❤You used to be a News Anchor years ago for channel 5 here in Utah 😳 i remember watching you!!! New Sub here ❤

[@JaimieJo]

I remember her too!

[@PatternSeeker...]

I've served on a jury before. I also have some experience with guns. It would definitely cause some reasonable doubt for me that, although the expert could rule in Allen's gun as possibly being the one to eject Item 16, she couldn't rule out three other guns not belonging to him as possibly matching Item 16. That's too indefinite for me. Looking forward to hearing what other evidence the prosecution has. Thank you so much, Lauren, for all you're going through to get this information to us!

[@Canyouseeanypartofme]

That happens with footprints too.. can’t be excluded.. when they catch the person it’s a match..

[@shellichurch5321]

Great coverage, Lauren! You're a rock star.

[@shiritorin]

I know this is a couple days old but hopefully you see this. I’ve dealt with hand and wrist issues for years. I’d suggest wearing a brace at night and wearing compression gloves during the day - you can get both at CVS’s or the like. Stretch your hands before you write and take breaks when you can! Thank you for everything you’ve been doing for the trial specifically! Camping out every night is so much and we appreciate the thorough coverage.

[@amiosa35]

Thank you for this quality coverage-what a gift to all of us ❤

[@5GreenAcres]

This is not quality coverage. If you want quality coverage including court filings check out JLR Investigates.

[@lsfitz3517]

Coming from a manufacturer's point of view: I can't say the manufacturer or type of product, btw. Every product on an assembly line has a specific job. Each product is marked, initialed on paper, or in a computer with the time that they started the product before it goes to the next person. People are also responsible for using/ operating the machinery that tests each stage of the product. Final analysis and inspection and packaging is at the end after it has gone through every step and mainly the machine that checks the operation and passes it through. People do make marks on specific areas of the product as part of their job. If the product is sent through a final machine twice to double check for whatever operator reason, the machine will mark it again, which in my experience will make it easier to see for final inspection. From what I understand from witness analysis is that it is easier to see those markings after the combination of cycling and firing. It seems like a couple of practices with the same "ammo" were done beforehand before cycling it again for "show of force", so to speak, at crime scene. Her firing to see it better only added to the visual process. It won't change it, only enhance it. Just some thoughts. Thank you for all that you've done to help the public be more aware.🙏 Btw, the juror questions were phenomenal!

[@aliehs994]

You are absolutely fantastic. I sit and listen and feel like I am in the courtroom!!!!

[@jeannemarie5908]

@Hidden True Crime .. thanks for all you do!

[@kellibeinit]

I am so addicted to this coverage!! 🎉 Thank you Lauren. This has to be a huge ordeal. It's appreciated!❤

[@EliseDFENS]

I imagine Miss Lauren is running on pure adrenaline. And I hope she gets to get some good rest when this is over. Because hearing all of this has been effecting me greatly. I can’t even imagine actually being there and doing what she’s doing. Not only having to hear all the horrible details but just being physically exhausted. You deserve a vacation! And you should actually get some type of award for this reporting. I have never seen anything like this. Absolutely unbelievable. Your marathon reporting is very much appreciated. And thanks for explaining everything about the cartridges because I had no idea. Thank you so much Lauren! Amazing 😅😳💙❤️💕

[@morelle3292]

I have so much respect for you, Lauren. Thank you for covering this trial so thoroughly. You are a true professional! 😊

[@Unicornfarmonstrawberryisland]

1:23:30 Not anymore obviously.

[@Nicole76108]

Thank you for your coverage!! Rewatching after a looooong day.

[@LarenDeeDesigns]

Thanks! Appreciate your awesome work. ❤❤❤

[@janefromthecountry1820]

Dr Pat Brown said when Rick Allen stated “It’s over,” when the investigators searched his home; it was a self confession. Placing himself at the bridge is monumental. I pray the jury gets this right. Lauren, your work is so outstanding! Thank you and Dr John for your dedication to Libby and Abby…

[@mm-ik2hb]

@@janefromthecountry1820 could have meant that the search of the house was over, 'its over' as we don't know exactly when he said it, they were searching his house at the time, or just finishing searching the house.

[@mademoisellenseven]

@@mm-ik2hbsadly, I agree with you. The police didn’t investigate thoroughly, there’s plenty of loose ends. Things were not diligently documented. Since it’s a circumstantial case, they can’t afford unexplained/unanswered questions. It’s plausible (even probable) that Allen is the culprit, but the prosecution doesn’t have much to dissolve reasonable doubts. Plus, there was crazy conspiracy theories of police cover-up, and ritualistic supremacists cults… I don’t believe it. But transparency would entrust the population. The secrecy around this trial makes it look like the authorities don’t trust their own methods, as if they don’t have the confidence to lay everything publicly.

[@wendymontgomery6586]

Thank you so much for what your doing! You have brought so much information that we would never know about this trial.

[@Karen-hb4fy]

Yes I saw how tired you were at lunch, thank you so much for all you are doing!!!

[@Juliet-vu1hv]

Good job Lauren. I appreciate all you’ve done and are doing!

[@veronicaboyd3696]

Hi Lauren, I can’t say it any better than the other gems have….YOU ARE AWESOME 💕👍🏻…your description and delivery gives us an experience as though we were actually at the crime scene! Thank you for all you do including getting to the courthouse in the middle of the night!!!

[@hywelmurray]

I’ve really appreciated your impartial commentary on the trial up till now.

[@lindseyhendrix2405]

Meaning???

[@sbaumgartner9848]

Lauren, you’re doing an amazing job under very difficult working and sleeping/eating conditions. This is likely your greatest professional experience. You’ve taking everything you’ve learned about your career and how to cope in a very difficult situation lasting weeks away from your family, and you’re coming out of this as a star pre and last be trial journalist/ presenter. You’re someone that more junior and even more experienced people in your profession will be aspiring to emulate. 🏅🏆🥇

[@staceyeder322]

Thank you for your coverage. It's the best I have found.

[@PlagueDoktore]

Not to advertise for an other podcast but when it comes to expert witnesses I highly recommend listing to Unraveled season 3. It's focuses on what (little) it takes to be a expert witness and false expert witness testimony with the consequence of innocent people being wrongly convicted. Thank you for your reporting from court. Out of the ones there to report you are the absolute best. Following from Norway.

[@SiljCBcnr]

That's what I'm thinking!!! They overwhelm the jury with someone's "impressive cv" to beush over the fact that their "science" is pure garbage. Who is she to say that there aren't a million other guns of the same model out in this world which would produce the same markings?!? Very fishy. Prosecution stinks.

[@debgatlin2]

Thanks again Lauren… the detail is great!

[@pattyolson3842]

Thanks so much for your coverage of this case. I'm on rewatch crew: today was the closing and verdict in Sarah Boone.

[@normagazcon3423]

Thank you for all the hard work you do bringing us the details of this trial ❤

[@CameraQueenSLC]

Great jury for asking questions. Thanks for all your great work.

[@Anyoneofus79]

Thank you fpr being there

[@MoparMomma]

Thank you for all that you are recording on paper and presenting to us each night. I can't imagine doing it with those odd sleeping conditions. Rest well tonight.

[@SP-in7xv]

To those who understand firearms, it makes perfect sense that the extractor and ejection marks are the same whether the round is fired or manually ejected by racking. Because the marks are made on the casing, regardless.

[@gilliancollins3324]

I’ve no clue about guns. Could another gun make those marks too, or is it like a fingerprint? He is obviously bridge guy. Praying the jury find him guilty 🙏

[@SP-in7xv]

@@gilliancollins3324 Like fingerprints. The marks are unique to an individual gun. Oberg went in depth about why the parts of the gun that make the mark casing have unique, microscopic characteristics.

[@LoudLilDucky]

@@SP-in7xvbut she couldn’t rule out 3 other guns. So it isn’t unique enough right?

[@SP-in7xv]

@ Those 3 were inconclusive. Rick’s was identified.

[@Trish72]

Don't let the trolls get you down. You are providing wonderful coverage.

[@Zaezae6875]

This shows how dedicated you are to this case. I know it's hard being there and having to see the terrible things that happened to Abby and Libby and then not being able to get proper rest but you are still meticulous and doing an amazing job!!!! I don't know how you do it because I am sure that this is mentally, emotionally, and physically draining. Just know we appreciate your hard work and dedication ❤

[@wendywoobles]

Thank you Lauren!!! ❤

[@Elizabethvaughan1]

Thanks Lauren for bringing us your observations ! Appreciated !🤗

[@janen9393]

The best reporting!! Thank you

[@jrockin9221]

New viewer here … truly like your channel . Thank you for this coverage .. I’ve been following this case since the girls were found in Feb/2017. I live in Michigan so the news coverage was huge in our area.

[@tracyfontenot-hg6pu]

Thanks for all your hard work and sacrificing your time away from your family! I recommend arthritis compression gloves. I have rheumatoid arthritis and the gloves help relieve my pain.

[@juliecrane9647]

I went to school with a huge family of Fontenot kids. They were from Louisiana. The teachers on 1st day of school always botched their name when doing roll call. They pronounced it Font-e-not. But it's pronounced Fought-no. I went to 3 of the girls weddings. The only time I've been to a Cajun wedding. So much fun ! Their dad made homemade wine. Delicious and STRONG !. The music was awesome too. 😊 Good memories from the 70s.

[@tracyfontenot-hg6pu]

@@juliecrane9647 My husband is from Louisiana. He probably knows the family or he’s related to them. A good friend of mine married a Fontenot a few years before I met my husband and we made fun of her. Little did I know I would marry a Fontenot.

[@chilo8187]

Look into healing inflammation.

[@melissaw4336]

If you zoom in on the picture of bridge guy, and look toward the right part of his coat pocket, you can see an outline of what looks like a gun. If you look up a sig saur 40 cal gun, it looks exactly like the outline of a sig saur handgun. I cannot fathom how or why they wouldn’t bring this up. I hope they do

[@mscs196]

Watching Saturday morning! Thanks for all you have been doing, Lauren! I'm addicted to your channel! ❤love your explanations and dedication to keeping us informed! Thanks again ♥️

[@summerbreeze3062]

Great coverage! I love the lunch lives! 😊

[@kelleewolfe2834]

Me too! I'm antsy in the mornings waiting for it.

[@TheTrailOfDestruction]

Thank you so much for all your hard work! I’m so grateful to have you there. I know it’s long days, short hours for sleep and not a lot of food or nearly enough caffeine 😮‍💨 do you have a buy me a coffee link? I’d love to support with ❤️✨

[@kaymusictaylor7214]

Love your reports!

[@elljay700]

Lauren - thank you for your coverage! Appreciate you

[@karenminton3711]

TY for your coverage. This is the only channel I watch for the coverage. Can you tell us what it’s like in line overnight? Random questions:Do you bring your sleeping bag and chair into court? Does anyone bring a pop up shelter to sleep in -it folds tiny into a tote bag. Where does everyone potty? It would help for bad weather. I use Voltaren for arthritis. It’s over the counter cream. Stay safe out there!!

[@suetaylor9945]

Excellent summary.

[@lb7133]

Lauren, thank you so much for the explanation, I also never knew, until now, all these details about bullets, etc.

[@justicejane2429]

Justice for the Girls: Rest In Peace 🌸Abigail "Abby" Joyce Williams (June 23, 2003 - February 13, 2017) and Liberty "Libby" Rose Lynn German (December 27, 2002 - February 13, 2017)

[@Ani-lt2iq]

Thank you for simply reporting the facts and not spending your time criticizing the players like Murder Sheet does. This is the kind of reporting we are all craving!

[@M.loggins]

Couldn’t find you lastnite(Friday) watched today! Fixn try in find Saturday!

[@jaimaherron1687]

Thank you for your determination and persistence in getting the information for this trial to the public. I know it hasn't been easy waiting for hours outside to get a spot in the courtroom and i just want you to know it doesn't go unoticed. Cameras should've never been banned from the courtroom !

[@TheDriftwoodlover]

You look beat. Get some rest. Yours is the third coverage I’m watching (plus your lunch live). It’s overwhelming. Thanks for your efforts.

[@susankleinman7849]

❤thanks so much for all that u do and the stress of getting a seat in the court!! I am on now at 11 am in the morning !!! Big hugs 🙋‍♀️🇬🇧

[@tinyspyder]

You are doing such a fantastic job. I think today would have been really crazy making. I hope you are taking care of yourself. Get some rest.

[@mypetitemaison]

Lauren, this has helped me immensely with my fingers and joints, Live Conscious Movewell. I purchase at Walmart or Amazon. I look forward to your updates every night. Hope you get some rest tonight.

[@M.loggins]

Thanks Lauren ❤❤❤

[@pamsmplthing]

This is one case I believe it gonna be hard for the jury. It's not simple at all.

[@joann5075]

All it takes is 1 Juror.

In his confessions if he said things that only the murderer would know then he is done, done, done!!!!

[@paewizardoz]

You're doing a great job for us. I come straight to you bcse you are explaining excellent

[@adelebertrand9582]

U r amazing sweetheart! So dedicated and humble! Ur reporting is so unjudgemental and ur humanity shines through! Justice 4 Abby and Libby!❤ X

[@smm1583]

I'm sure that ALL of the families appreciate people like you who are trying to relay the truth of what's happening in there to the rest of us.

[@sc4112]

Comparing cycled rounds to fired rounds is analogous to comparing a DNA sample removed from a crime scene to amplified DNA obtained using PCR, which happens in forensic labs all.the.time.

[@loislane9826]

Nice comparison

[@PsychActually]

Also, for Lauren, try compression gloves (without finger tips). They supposedly help with arthritis and carpal tunnel pain. There are a lot on the market…some for crafters (think knitting), over-the-counter medical supply, and prescription medical supply

[@dianacairns843]

You are an absolute Superstar, Lauren! Thank you for all your hard work, the very long hours, lack of sleep, transcription of the court proceedings... You deserve a medal! I look forward to your feeds every day, and I sense that Richard Allen is the perpetrator. This is purely my own opinion based on intuition. Sadly I doubt they will find him guilty because a lot of vital evidence was "lost" or not followed up... For example, the fact that Richard Allen was cleared right at the beginning and only investigate further 5 YEARS LATER!

[@Sleutherine]

So far, I think the most damning evidence are the words of Richard Allen himself when he self reported to Dan Dulin. We know on 2/13/17 he was on the Monon High trails AND bridge and we know his clothes matched those of Bridge Guy. If we see and hear those confessions and that Richard Allen made those confessions by his own free will, I’m sold.

[@5GreenAcres]

You all have Richard Allen convicted. Including the host of this channel. Are you aware that Robert Ives (former prosecutor) was given a subpoena to be a witness for the defense and he is attempting to get out of it? Are you aware that Brad Holder (Freemason cop) has a son Logan who practiced Odinism? The son Logan dated Libby. Son didn't like Libby for some odd reason about interacial stuff or something like that. Brad Holder (cop) is on FB with a hat just like bridge guy and looks just like bridge guy. It would be interesting to see what Logan the son looks like. Is he cute with curly or poofy hair???? This is is a cover up just like the Karen Reid trial. Richard Allen is the Freemason's patsy. If you want more in depth information check out JLR Investigates.

[@Olive.adalyn]

I was caught up on RA’s outfit on that day as well and the fact he was there at the same time.. what are the odds that could happen? But if you watch Ron Logan’s interview from 2/15/17 Ron Logan is wearing a carhartt style jacket and hat. The other man also shown in the video interview with Ron Logan is wearing a jacket and hat. It seems like a very typical outfit for the average man in Indiana. I do not think it’s unreasonable to question with so many different descriptions of “bridge guy” that there could have been a few different men on the trails at that time and they may have not came forward like RA. When you compare the bridge guy video to RA, yes, it’s a very possible match. But then compare to Ron Logan… I believe he could just as easily be a match. If it’s true Kegan Kline was in contact with the girls via the Anthony shots profile, what are the odds two men from this small town were perping on these girls with no connection to the other? I think it’s possible that RA was involved, however, it makes way more sense there was some kind of ring going on and these girls were targeted. It seems like so many holes are missing in this story and the girls deserve for real justice and not a cop out. I think LE really dropped the ball on this investigation and they know this is the only chance they have to prosecute because there is no solid evidence. As far as RA confessing, I would not be shocked. This man was kept in solitary confinement; in willing to bet he was badly mistreated by guards, the entire world was wishing him dead. He was probably literally going insane and trying to appease anyone. I don’t think RA confessing is any kind of evidence, but it’s in the jury’s hands 🤷‍♀️

[@glinda9243]

@michellerussell4388 RA probably forgot that he initially chambered a bullet and tried to scare them again while they were in the ravine. I think at some point Libby attacked Richard Allen trying to help Abby because I think he took his neck gaiter and put it around Abby's mouth to control her, they slid down the hill from the bridge that's how she lost one shoe, then they would have gone to cross over to the creek and up to the ravine. Someone said Abby had a injury on her foot so it is probably when she was walking barefoot through the woods (if you've ever stepped on a stob). If Libby attacked, that may be when he stabbed Libby in the throat and then he slit Abby's throat, laid them out, and watched them die. He may have used each of their clothing to sexually gratify himself while they lay dying, like BTK. Then as he left he took them down to the creek to wash away DNA I bet he made Libby undress first, then all hell broke lose. I still think RA was going to cover their bodies, but heard people calling for the girls, and he would have fled by 3:30, dumping clothing as he walked home or to his vehicle. I think the woman saw him walking along the road, but I think he switched back into the woods and followed Bridge Creek right to his house. Then cleaned up and returned to get his vehicle. It wouldn't have taken very long at all...only a mile (or les) walk. There was no need to go by the Harvesters Warehouse because that would have been further away from his house. His house was to the left of the main road on Whiteman Drive.

[@glinda9243]

​@@5GreenAcresif it walks like a duck... If he had himself snitched he would never have gotten caught

[@glinda9243]

​@5GreenAcres RA probably forgot that he initially chambered a bullet and tried to scare them again while they were in the ravine. I think at some point Libby attacked Richard Allen trying to help Abby because I think he took his neck gaiter and put it around Abby's mouth to control her, they slid down the hill from the bridge that's how she lost one shoe, then they would have gone to cross over to the creek and up to the ravine. Someone said Abby had a injury on her foot so it is probably when she was walking barefoot through the woods (if you've ever stepped on a stob). If Libby attacked, that may be when he stabbed Libby in the throat and then he slit Abby's throat, laid them out, and watched them die. He may have used each of their clothing to sexually gratify himself while they lay dying, like BTK. Then as he left he took them down to the creek to wash away DNA I bet he made Libby undress first, then all hell broke lose. I still think RA was going to cover their bodies, but heard people calling for the girls, and he would have fled by 3:30, dumping clothing as he walked home or to his vehicle. I think the woman saw him walking along the road, but I think he switched back into the woods and followed Bridge Creek right to his house. Thrn cleaned up and returned to get his vehicle. It wouldn't have taken very long at all...only a mile (or les) walk. There was no need to go by the Harvesters Warehouse because that would have been further away from his house. His house was to the left of the main road on Whiteman Drive.

[@elizabethgregory]

I love your ACTUAL unbiased notes. Just telling, not interjecting your defense opinions. It's so hard to listen to some. You can clearly hear the defense bias in it 😭 I want to listen to everyone, then come to my own opinion. But it's been really hard. So thank you Lauren and your helpers!

[@nikkirogers5991]

Seconded. I can see where Lauren is weighing her words/correcting herself to say 'Bridge Guy' instead of 'Richard Allen' to ensure she is not making a biased statement. I have a very strong opinion on the verdict but agree that coverage should be fair and unbiased. Lauren is showing her integrity as a media professional and human being in her work.

[@juliegunter2703]

Lauren, try tumeric and try a baking soda paste on your hands. You are doing an awesome job bringing the court proceedings to us. Please get some good rest after court tomorrow and on Sunday. Thank You!

[@shelainethomason1610]

Thank you, Laura.

[@Mojogoblue]

So glad you’ll get some sleep tonight!

[@smiling-sleuth]

On the replay crew here. Lauren, have you heard there are line sitters? Perhaps you can sign up for one and get a nice warm night's sleep. 😴😴😴

[@Hopeful84]

I love your show! I’ve watched A’s and felt it was a tad to snarky for such a serious subject ❤️

[@micheledove7851]

Thanks so much for your dedication to bringing us the testimony of witnesses. Take care of yourself

[@PsychActually]

I have to say I am confused why visual evidence couldn’t be shown to the jury that shows a comparison. It sounds like she didn’t explain why except to basically say it was beyond what a non-expert could understand. Why? Even if they don’t look identical, she could have explained why and how she drew her conclusions. It feels like a bad look and if there are any super skeptics on the jury they are not going to like that.

[@patriciaseybold7396]

Great coverage once again. Please get some rest!

[@jukie16]

I’m really interested in all his confessions. I wonder when they will bring those up.

[@tinyspyder]

The marks from fired rounds are deeper because of the pressure the cartridge was under. You might as well examine the deeper marks rather than the lighter ones. They are the same marks.

[@MK-pt9zt]

If they truly believe that, they would have shown the jurors pictures of the identified marks from both bullets.

[@tinyspyder]

@MK-pt9zt I agree! Maybe they did? I'm not sure. But I would think that definitely should be a part of the entered evidence.

[@lynettekrick2324]

Thanks, ladies!!! I snarfed my soda with "Just the tip." Omg😂

[@paulajackson8416]

You are doing a great job! Glad it sounds like you are getting some real sleep tonight. 💤💤

[@havanesemommom6912]

Thanks for such thorough and concise explanations I can follow everything- I’m in 🇨🇦 and have never seen or touched a gun so this is super helpful.

[@HiddenTrueCrime]

I’m glad it’s helpful! I’m doing my best to explain it so we can all understand.

[@JP-su1eg]

Thank you for all you do!!!

[@heatherneaum3940]

Your information is so in depth and well presented! I have watched quite a few other presenters and they need to watch your presentations before they attempt to give opinions…so much uninformed information is being given out as ‘fact’.

[@Pamela-el9yv]

Lauren, i use an arthritis cream called Voltaren for my pain ful arthritis!! It works pretty well and has a pain reliever in it!! I know what pain your in!!😢

[@jackmanjack211]

agree

[@pommiebears]

What you are using, is an ibuprofen on steroids. Anti inflammatory, and bad for the stomach if taken orally, so….stick to the cream.

[@smithwilma7263]

Me too I'm full of it in my whole body ‼️Hurts like hell‼️

[@AnnBullard-ju1ff]

Thank you for explaining this so well!

[@cindyshirreffs2099]

I may have missed the point: any number of guns could have made these marks, but she has only tested five or ten? And she only tested ten rounds, four cycled and six fired? A larger number would be a better sample?

[@garfield-yt8oi]

Yeah, she only tested a few. And she couldnt even exclude them all.

[@bigbird4203]

You are an absolute baby doll .THANK YOU

[@laurielaplante7450]

You're the best our there, Lauren! We truly appreciate all you do!

[@flightwife1828]

Thank you Lauren. Im so grateful & appreciative for all of your hard work, amazing explanations & videos. I do hope you are able to get you some really good rest. Your work is invaluable & you're health is top priority. Sending you love with gratitude from TX. 💜💜💜

[@Jo-Elle504]

I think the judge in this case is appallingly terrible. I think the crime scene investigation was botched. I also think Richard Allen is probably guilty. To me, it’s bad that after he self reported being on the trail that they didn’t investigate further.

[@carrow1057]

Wow that is an interesting take. I am nervous about the investigation methods, namely the follow up after interviews. However, I am interested in seeing how they present his (1) confessions, (2) his psych eval (is he feigning mental illness symptoms??). In Boone's trial the psych clearly demonstrated she was not feigning, and understood the legal process; she measured off the charts as understanding. I want to see if they evaluated RA like this.

[@rhondadsvidson7573]

I agree. It was all botched. The judge is horrible and I don't really believe he did it tho.

[@evelynwhite2553]

@@rhondadsvidson7573 The hair in one of the girls hands and the no struggle, like if they know who it was. Also, one of the girls I think it was Abby was looking for the trail. I think it was Libby that said '' it's there down the hill. The way Libby said that B a gun sounds not right. I think she said'' that mite be a gun'' then right after that bridge Guy said ''Girls down the hill'' Idk , But I need to see and hear the voice and see the video first hand. If he killed Abby and Libby, there would be DNA some where on someone like the hair in one of the girls hands. I think this is all botched. Poor Abby and Libby with this botched trial:( they deserve better!!!

[@thisaccount4321]

​@@evelynwhite2553someone did it leaving now DNA behind

[@HumanimalChannel]

57:44 richard may have cycled that cartridge more than once

[@ValeriePeterson-w5f]

Thank you Lauren for covering this case 😢❤

[@EBee335]

I remember a dive team being in a river near Kegan Klines home when he was a suspect I think?

[@mymymom2]

Why did Leo clear them? I have not been able to locate that info.

[@Luluisraging.86]

I’m here but it’s 11:30 in Utah. Watching as I’m falling asleep. 💤