DNA analyst confirms Richard Allen's DNA was not found at crime scene | Day 8 & 9 | DELPHI DEBRIEF

Stacy Bozinovski, who works in the Indiana State Police Indianapolis Post laboratory as a forensic scientist and DNA analyst, conducted DNA analysis on Abby Williams and Libby German's bodies, as well as their clothes, blood at the crime scene and cartridge recovered from the crime scene.
Prosecuting attorney Jim Luttrell asked Bozinovski, "Did you find the DNA of Richard Allen on any of the items you tested?"
"No, I did not," Bozinovski responded.
Special Judge Frances Gull called out people who were sleeping in the courtroom.
"I do not conduct court in your bedrooms. I would appreciate you not sleeping in my courtroom," Gull said.
LaPorte County Sheriff's Maj. Pat Cicero, who was asked to help in Delphi case on Feb. 12, 2024, said all of the blood in the large pools belonged to Libby. Cicero said Libby was drug to where her body was found. Cicero said he believes Abby died where she was injured.
Cicero said it was very unusual that there was no blood on Abby's hands. Cicero said he had never seen a wound like hers with no blood on the victim's hands.
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[@spaghettiman600]

So there is your lesson, folks… the police can lie to you legally. Do not speak to police, get a lawyer immediately no matter what your level of guilt or innocence.

[@LS-ny8mr]

👍 yep

[@randallreid424]

You are so right. I always found it to be so hypocritical that law enforcement can legally lie to you to get what they want but if you are a suspect and get caught up in a lie it will lawfully be used against you. This is an odd way to go about getting too the truth. Always stay quiet and lawyer up especially if you know the truth is on your side. God bless

[@matthewrwalter]

Q

[@pecanbrown2006]

Not a word.

[@FreeAtLast4ever]

Richard contacted them to try to help what murderer does that? Only in movies does this occur

[@stoney-51999]

This is SO big. I honestly don’t care if it’s Allen or not, I just want the *right* person to be rotting behind bars for this horrible, horrible crime. I pray that is the outcome of this case no matter what may happen along the way. These girls and their families deserve true justice.

[@beckyd712]

*Problem is, now they have this Richard Allen guy, whose DNA is NOT at the scene and Police have already ruined his life.*

[@immaseahorse24]

But it looks like they don't have the right person

[@WildChildMcCloud]

It seems that the police don't care either. This is a man's life.

[@LadyGreyBlack]

@@beckyd712 Seven years down the toilet, and it comes to this joke of a trial. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

[@pattydavis8403]

He didn't do it no DNA of his no where listen to this news clip.

[@elizabethmarshall2374]

If you're guilty, you need a lawyer. If you're innocent, you REALLY need a lawyer!

[@Maggiemay72493]

That’s a fact!!!

[@CatalinaFOIA]

100% right

[@ElizzzaB]

Why would the girls have tbis pic on their phone? Nothing was found on their bodies?

[@jamesoutlaw13]

Correct!

[@katewoolf6059]

All the phones he ever owned were found EXCEPT the phone he used during the murders' timeframe. He is guilty af

[@bunnyluver2176]

The police fumbled this case with a crappy investigation. The attorney is absolutely correct they should have taken a video of the scene. It was 2016. No excuse. Also a blood splatter expert should have been brought in immediately.

[@lc285]

It was 2017.

[@adrianeelise3849]

They didn’t record it?? What the actual FU**

[@gdiup9241]

💯 no excuse.

[@Aboma2012]

He was the wrong guy and they ruined his life.

[@ArohaStill]

​@@Aboma2012he confessed 60 times lol you're insane

[@negri911]

Jurors need facts, not assumptions.

[@montanagal6891]

Thank you for presenting the evidence without being biased for one side or the other, which is more than I can say for Judge Gull.

[@HarleeRider]

Personally I don't think they have the evidence to say RA is the person. They basically put him in solitary confinement and threatened his wife and daughter to get a confession out of him. Very sad situation all the way around for Abby, Libby their families and everyone else involved in this.

[@tishwitch]

It's so outrageous and disturbing that they not only tossed him into a prison but also solitary confinement. He worked at the local pharmacy... no criminal record... no reason whatsoever to treat him like Hannibal Lector. It's absolutely no wonder he lost his mind... anyone would. It's sick that all it seems that this man did was come forward to help investigators. The FBI doesn't even think he was at the scene later in the day... it's sick whats happening here.

[@heathernikki5734]

@@tishwitchit’s outrageous that people like you think the perv is innocent 😊

[@MarietaTruter]

​@@tishwitchagree 100%

[@dylanbenbow967]

He never confessed to anything....

[@annehedonia156]

They know who did it but RA is the fall guy.

[@chacha-Ce83]

This is something incredibly disturbing.

[@tiffanypartin4781]

That police department is dirty, how did they not collect the sticks/branches that were on their body's

[@lindseysanders3656]

Incompetence

[@somethinginthenothing]

Because they didn't know what they were doing and they didn't want to let state and federal agencies take over.

[@lindseysanders3656]

@@somethinginthenothing Federal agencies usually handle the big stuff and not these types of crimes.

[@amberl3305]

​@@somethinginthenothingI don't know why the agencies fight with each other so often. As long as justice is served why does it matter? It's like a weird contest.

[@aceboogie3086]

​@lindseysanders3656 they still could have handed it over to ISP. Small towns do it all the time

[@sarahshively143]

How much money is Carol county spending on this trial? No evidence against Richard Allen? What is really being hidden? Great coverage! Thank you

[@lollylolly8186]

Overall I believe it’s been over $4 m total poured into this investigation. Taxpayers should ask for their money back, it’s a dumpster fire of investigation.

[@annehedonia156]

The other guy has friends in high places.

[@charlottekelly7986]

@@annehedonia156Indeed!

[@Georgia-i8k]

The audacity of the judge to complain of people sleeping in the gallery.. She's the one who has people lining up outside the courtroom for 10+ hours, and not able to have a lunch break or they will lose their seat. Why is this judge continually getting away with so much bs?

[@seananderson5334]

Sleeping in the courtroom is unacceptable. I'm not defending any other action by the judge but I agree with her on that.

[@breezystl777]

They're not even allowed to have water in the courtroom either

[@josefinasoderholm6488]

Seriously!! This is a case about two children who have been murdered! Sleeping in the courtroom is so disrespectful. This is a murder case of two children who were brutally murdered. Not a spectator sport!

[@5GreenAcres]

She was mocking them!!! How can she save face walking in public is what I want to know. She should be holding her head in shame. Complete shame.

[@caitlin8836]

The reporters said people were sleeping in the hallway, not the courtroom itself. I'd be curious to hear more reporting and learn if people were really sleeping in the courtroom. Either way, these girls deserve the best from the public audience and from the presiding judge.

[@ericamcauley1190]

It actually blows my mind how little evidence they have displayed so far...how did they even get probable cause warrants?! I'm not advocating for RA's innocence, but Libby and Abby's precious souls deserve justice.

[@Libbathegreat]

Like most probable cause warrants, they engaged in a lot of cherry picking instead of a totality of the evidence which is supposed to be the standard.

[@marcellasimone1998]

They should have waited until they had enough evidence so that they could prove this beyond a reasonable doubt. Bridge guy looks like RA, he admitted to being on the bridge that day, and the unspent bullet is at the crime scene, but is that enough for a jury to convict him? I’m at 70% we have the right guy 30% no at the moment.

[@bambinaforever1402]

Yes. He did it. There were no HIS DNA, but there were not other men’s DNa AS WELL!!!!!! So what, the girls did it to themselves? How could they not find any DNa? It means RA is not excluded from the list

[@Casso_Wary]

​@@bambinaforever1402 there is hardly anything tying him to the scene. It could also have been perpetrated by members of the Vinlanders gang. Your belief in his guilt means nothing, remember innocent until proven otherwise.

[@judgedoomentertainmentnetwork]

@@bambinaforever1402 you know no more than anyone else

[@bunnyluver2176]

Everyday there’s more and more reasonable doubt adding up in my mind. I can’t believe they wouldn’t be able to find DNA somewhere on RA, or on his belongings based on the description of the scene.

[@markkromer1238]

I agree. Two teenage girls, during the day where other people were walking around--the crime scene was very involved. I don't see just one perpetrator

[@Zeb75]

Eight years. No shot.

[@missysmuses]

i think the police there should be investigated

[@spurs5677]

Yup and retired sheriffs

[@Letsberealish]

​@@spurs5677The sheriff at the time is now the Chief Deputy Sheriff. The lead investigator at the time is now the Sheriff... its a corrupt good ol' boys club.

[@aleman7771]

Seee my comment!! I found a lot of crap that involves Libby gma, the guards watching over Mr Allen and even the prosecutor and Libby sister boyfriend( both graduated as master mason, 3 weeks after Libby and abby murders.!!)

[@Ginge1164]

And Judge

[@mariatorres9789]

Well, there is DNA, they're just discounting it.

[@mariatorres9789]

Oh wow. I thought he was guilty this entire time. This guy is INNOCENT and they KNOW IT, or they would've tested EVERYTHING THEY CAN to prove he was there. Omg, I'm actually on his side now. Wow. That's why you wait for a trial, & don't listen to gossip!

[@jacksonjones3152]

Innocent how? He's definitely the bridge guy approaching the girls on the dead end bridge then they recording him a few minutes later...down the hill. He wasn't there for exercise. His stubby beer gut proves that. Victim trolling.

[@mariatorres9789]

@jacksonjones3152 The feds thought the guy was 5'10". The SKIN DNA under both girls nails isn't his. The confessions are absurd, from a madman of prison forced drugs & daily fed info from the doc, per what she herself said, about telling him things from outside fangirl groups she was part of, & at least 2 doctors said he was psychotic, likely from long term solitary. The bullet is 100% COMPLETE junk science, if any experiment can't be recreated, it's dead in the water, & that goes for all scientific experiments since the beginning of time. The medical examiner CHANGED their opinion, to fit a false confession. Cops magically 'lost/ erased' interviews, so evidence wouldn't come out. 🙄 This isn't VCR tapes from the 80's, it's all digital with back up storage, so they're full on preventing a defense. You should be completely outraged from justice for these girls, & the attempt to thwart real justice. Don't you know, NOBODY can be convicted now, ever, with all the BRADY Violations? You should be outraged at the cops, & the court. Complete sh*t show. Demand better.

[@rebthirteen8012]

@@mariatorres9789 just goes to show that people need to stop believing the state is always correct. It’s the states job to PROVE BEYOND ALL REASONABLE DOUBT that THEY are charging the correct person(s). The prosecution can spend taxpayers money as much as they like to attempt to prove their case, but a defendant publicly funded doesn’t get the same amount of money invested for their case with experts etc. The scales are NOT equal and justice does not wear a blindfold. It stacked in favour of the state every time. Shocking state of affairs in the year 2024 in the US 🇺🇸 And RA could be ANYONE!!! People need to remember that.

[@mariac.9727]

Could you please report about the way the public is kept away from this case? That's worth a report as well.

[@hollycjensen]

Yes!

[@grunt6646]

I don’t see how a crime of this nature could be done without leaving DNA at the scene. And the victims DNA in car and house and clothes.

[@DaneRietel39]

It rained I believe and the DNA cultures integrity is highly susceptible to liquids and solvents not just contaminating but destroying it this why 911 operators will say don't shower or do laundry If u report a SA

[@littlecaseymarie666]

It's because the LE is covering it up

[@Valpo2004]

To be fair I think there is is a lot of reasonable doubt at this point, but I wouldn't expect them to recover DNA from his home 7 years later. Especially if a killer made any kind of point to clean up. To me that piece of evidence is sort of null it means very little either way. The only exception is not finding any blood in his vehicle assuming he's driving the same vehicle. Blood stains stuff and in a crime scene this brutal it's hard to believe he could get into his car and not leave any blood stains.

[@mn-nf3dd]

He could be wearing gloves. DNA evidence is fragile. And I believe Allen got rid of any evidence at his home years ago.

[@tauresattauresa7137]

So whose DNA is present?

[@dannydanko4627]

This case is a mess!

[@bunnyluver2176]

Yes, unbelievable they didn’t record the interview of the main murder suspect you’ve been looking for for 7 years

[@chief5981]

I think prosecutors need to explain the two sketches and why they said they believe more than 1 person was involved. Prosecution being let off easy

[@Brandibb]

It's maddening that the girls got their own killer on video and voice recording and the case is this messy. They deserve justice.

[@littlecaseymarie666]

7:53 what do you mean they didn't find any DNA of a mystery person?? They found a whole damn hair that they refused to test!! Unbelievable

[@SC-bg2lv]

They can’t test it with our dna technology right now or the whole sample will be destroyed. And the amount of dna on it wouldn’t even give a profile or a hit with our technology right now. Then we would never be able to test it even with better technology

[@joanbaczek2575]

It was Libby’s sisters hair my issue is that hair was pulled out because there was root attached it was not transferred

[@mightymarsha]

I don’t think Richard done it… I honestly don’t

[@charliebarrow7086]

Same. I shake my head in astonishment that they ever got a judge to sign an indictment. Crazy. To me it looks like they needed to charge somebody, anybody to silence the public's quest for justice. They took RA.

[@robertgibbs7513]

This is one complex case Ron Logan could be the guy but I think Richard was involved also but I'm starting to think Ron Logan was the main guy behind it

[@laurastuart3814]

I think you mean did it, not done it.

[@readdeeply9278]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@timothyfreeseha4056]

Lining up as much as 15 hours ahead of time. These people are quiet activists sending a clear message about the importance of access and transparency. They deserve our praise and admiration.

[@mikeappleget482]

This trial is as close to a Soviet era secret trial as it can possibly get. The judge is also blatantly putting her thumb (whole body) on the scale.

[@TheUglyDoctor]

Right..the judge pointing to temp in the room as the reason people are falling asleep is disingenuous. They're having to wait in line for a spot in court. A non public trial where there are serious integrity questions and 2 very innocent victims who deserve justice - I'm glad that there are people willing to go through so much to witness this secluded trial

[@Libbathegreat]

One of the lawtubers I watch, Andrea Burkhart, is an attorney who has traveled to Delphi to sit in on the trial. She's of the opinion that Gull us doing her utmost to discourage independent observers in the court, making the schedule as unpredictable as possible, hoping to create discord among those waiting in line for hours on end (so far without success). There is so much wrong about this case and this trial and they are doing all they can to conduct their dirty business and sleight of hand in the shadows.

[@TheUglyDoctor]

@@Libbathegreat wow that's awful. trying to interpret the judge's moves in the most charitable way but unfortunately the way you just laid it out makes sense

[@montanagal6891]

Absolutely!

[@Angelas_Objective_Opinion]

Gull has ruined this trial!

[@amberl3305]

Yea, I think so, too. She gives me an icky feeling.

[@Libbathegreat]

ISP got there way ahead of her. This case has been shambolic from the beginning.

[@rebthirteen8012]

Gull, LE, prosecution. They’ve all trashed this case. It was never RA. This case is a complete travesty for the murdered girls and RA.

[@rebthirteen8012]

“It’s at the discretion of the INVESTIGATORS as to what is tested?!”- Keystone cops could’ve done a better job with this case. Utterly appalling, and if it wasn’t so tragic in many ways, it’d be laughable. Now comes the real question, was law enforcement utterly clueless and therefore incompetent here, or did they mess up this investigation deliberately because they’re covering up for those who were responsible for the girls murders? This case stinks to high heaven of impropriety.

[@jenniferferguson1517]

She isn’t the only one. The police did their fair share as well.

[@heatherbowlan1961]

You guys are giving the best details than any other channels thank you 🙏 love

[@Ginge1164]

Watch Andrea Burkhart. She’s a lawyer and she’s been amazing. She’s in court everyday too.

[@CoastalCarolinaMom]

@@Ginge1164 Love Andrea Burkhart, she is the best. This MSM news team is the best that I’ve seen in years. Terrific job by all!!!

[@bru1015]

I agree! 👍

[@mariatorres9789]

Yes, this is great coverage.

[@littlecaseymarie666]

They're also straight up covering up facts just like any other MSM network/show. At 7:44 she said that they didn't find DNA of any unknown mystery person. Yet they found a whole damn hair that didn't belong to RA that they refuse to figure out whom it belongs to. Come on.

[@sweetsubversion]

Something stinks in Delphi.

[@maljenae4349]

Agreed! I don't think this man did it...

[@angie-kbm]

I agree

[@MrNeon311]

There was an investigation on a guy that was a Odinist and there was fbi agents that where trying to follow up on that lead and one of the agents got ambushed and killed and they stop the investigation .turns out the guy in question is the father of Abby Williams ex boyfriend i his name was Brad holder

[@heathernikki5734]

@@maljenae4349that’s why he confessed 61 times lol

[@ne4787]

I agree

[@ss-wu1vp]

He seems very much innocent.

[@sebfettel]

Coverup and frame job. Everybody involved needs to be investigated, even the judge.

[@SusanBolin]

Especially the judge!!!!!

[@fridaytieday]

Yeah, she's a real piece of work. Her judgement will come.

[@Catherine-gt3cr]

Right on!

[@lifeofreilly9943]

Including the entire ISP Department, starting with the Superintendent-He gives me creeper vibes.

[@Maggiemay72493]

Agreed!!!

[@awesomebeautiful8782]

In the uk, they have banned cops lying to suspects, and their conviction rate has actually gone up.

[@josefinasoderholm6488]

Where I live too. There’s a lot of research about false confessions… U,S has obviously not taken any of them to heart. U,S has the most falsely imprisoned in the world

[@fridaytieday]

Interesting. Using their brains instead of their brawn.

[@violetlove3580]

That's awesome, I didn't know that. Yeah it seems like some people aren't aware that cops are legally allowed to lie in an interrogation in America. And they will not call it an interrogation to your face either, which is even more deceptive. As long as they Mirandize you, they can say whatever they want. It's really fucked up.

[@laurapersinger3608]

And now Donal Trump is running on complete and total immunity for police officers in the US….

[@JacobC479]

@@laurapersinger3608which is hilarious considering he’s the reason Capitol police officers died or were seriously injured. It’s “tough on crime” unless it’s him/them.

[@rachface12851]

Wait so there were hair follicles at the scene that they just never tested? Becky Patty was asked for her DNA two days before her trial testimony possibly to compare the hair in Abby’s hand? How has none of this happened in the last seven plus years? Wowzers.

[@SC-bg2lv]

The amount of DNA on the hairs is not enough to test with today’s technology so it would destroy the only sample they have left. They are saving the samples for later when DNA testing is improved and can test small amounts of DNA without destroying the only last samples they have

[@K1PPAH]

This guy is innocent, they just pinned it on him to close the case not knowing how involved social media would get.

[@louisebb4183]

That’s not the first one!

[@MarthaAccettullo]

For sure . I agree

[@Letsberealish]

The FBI needs to step in and investigate Carroll county sheriff dept.

[@nevadatan7323]

lol they did.

[@elliegreen881]

@@nevadatan7323did they actually?

[@littlecaseymarie666]

And the judge!!!

[@justinpruitt9285]

@@nevadatan7323no they didn’t

[@deborahk7134]

the FBI was kicked off the case! Total coverup!

[@emilylitchko9414]

The people whose job it was to throughly investigate this case are the ones who should be on trial. I haven’t heard of law enforcement fucking up this hard in a long time. This case should be thrown out because of how it was handled. Sucks that the family wouldn’t get closure but better than putting an innocent man in prison. If he is innocent. I’m not convinced either way. But for the state to not test all dna. And all this sham bullet evidence. There’s enough reasonable doubt to throw the whole trial out.

[@littlecaseymarie666]

The LE and the state investigating the Idaho4 case fucked up really bad too

[@DengGulbarry-pi4vj]

This happens quite often nowadays. Once investigators have a suspect, or lead they like, all focus goes to gathering evidence against them. Everything else will be disregarded unless someone competent is around to prevent it from happening. The percentage of cases that go unsolved, and people charged with crimes that bear no evidence against them is appalling. I've personally filed complaints about the way they investigate in my city. They wait for one lead and devote all resources to that lead. And the courts are so incompetent that people get indicted regardless of their being enough evidence. Bail is hard to get in high profile cases. And once you're locked up, you are under a lot of psychological pressure. The prosecutor's office is given an extremely unfair advantage. The process is, in fact, designed to favor them so they can get easier convictions. The heads of every component of that system are elected officials, and I feel like that needs to change

[@bunnyluver2176]

It’s unbelievable the killer wouldn’t have gotten blood all over himself at the scene they’re describing.

[@JL-zn7me]

I’m shocked there is zero DNA and he’s being charged. Anyone could have done this; Ron Logan, fellow students there that day, someone in LE or “ the tall, blonde haired guy” witnesses described. There were no scratches or defense wounds on RA when he went to the police station? Dirty fingernails? Was there anything tying him to this.. no! He was cleared.

[@Brown_Skittle]

@@bunnyluver2176 no one said he didn’t get blood on him, they said after testing 6 yrs later they couldn’t find dna on the jacket that may, or may not have been used that day. If someone is overdressed, wearing a skull cap, and probably wearing gloves it doesn’t surprise me his dna wasn’t found. I wish it was but it wasn’t. But, also no other persons dna was found either. Abby probably didn’t have blood on her hands because she was unconscious at the time her throat was cut. It’s all totally explainable. I wish it was more solid obviously but too much circumstantial evidence piling up pointing to RA for sure. Confessions are coming too, so we’ll see

[@Phoenixhunter157]

@@bunnyluver2176 I thought about that. And considering they feel like they got his jacket from that day, I don’t think you could wash that much evidence away . Something would show up. But i haven’t heard of anything being found on the jacket?

[@bonitadrake3046]

If it were him Richard Allen he probably burnt his clothes elsewhere.

[@laurenferguson959]

How is that even possible? Huge blood loss from those poor girls and not one speck of dna. Im just know checking into this, sounds like they have no evidence Allen was there.

[@sethstine4698]

There were a lot of other people at that park and on the trail that day who also "put themselves at the scene of the crime". Why not arrest them too? This is ridiculous

[@debranau]

@@sethstine4698 yeah but this guy confessed to it over 60 times on jailhouse phones talking with his family. If he's not guilty, why did he do that?

[@AngelPrissy]

​@101GM8 that is inaccurate.

[@heathernikki5734]

@@AngelPrissy and you know that how??

[@AngelPrissy]

@@heathernikki5734 based on trial testimony

[@MarietaTruter]

RA is innocent IMO

[@geraldbarreno535]

This guy is innocent ....is no way this man did all what he did is no DNA is impossible ...no even skin DNA or any is mind blowing impossible.

[@Tom-lc9ni]

No DNA was found other than the girls. So it doesn't make him guilty or innocent.

[@GibboFrank]

So why are the defense worried about fog reveal? Motioned today ? Foojackao wait till you hear that

[@mariatorres9789]

​@@GibboFrankI don't believe false confessions, even if the guy was fed info prior. Just look at the Brendan Dassey case. There has to be corroborated evidence.

[@lukefuller1936]

But there was no dna at all other then the 2 girls someone killed them so it could be him

[@myron-ut2nf]

Probably because he didn't do it

[@ericcabral5972]

Just one person wouldnt have enough time to do all that.washing clothes,dressing up,configuring the bodies,making marks with branches....especially with RA timeline

[@angieketcher5917]

I agree..the person who murdered these young teenagers evidently aren't in the dna database so most likely they haven't been arrested. DNA was found under the girls fingernails.

[@mistyjackson1745]

That is where the younger guy comes into play to be an accomplice !

[@ericakilburn4386]

@@mistyjackson1745I completely agree with you

[@mariawood2467]

Everything of RA tested. No DNA found. No blood traces on him from them or the girls, but the sisters.

[@ScaryBoomBoomGun]

It is really sounding like they have the wrong guy. And there's DNA that still hasn't been tested?! What?!

[@YaYYaY_10]

There's not a enough DNA to test . But it doesn't xclude RA

[@YaYYaY_10]

He was wearing gloves people ...

[@TruthLipuid]

The wrong guy??? There's not many "Guys" who were at the bridge who could've done this. You do know that Richard SAID HE WAS AT THE BRIDGE THAT DAY! The SAME time the girls showed up. Oh and guess what.... The phone he had that day, WENT MISSING! He has over 20 different phones but of course the phone from THAT day is just disappearing. The police messed up when collecting evidence but that Dosent mean he is innocent. Stop. The. Nonsense. GET REAL! He is so GUILTY !

[@KyleTMcN]

⁠@@YaYYaY_10it’s weird how badly you want to send someone away on such little evidence.

[@MrProfchaos71]

They have the right guy. It’s indisputable but perhaps not provable beyond reasonable doubt. If you understand the witness and timeline evidence then you understand that he is BG.

[@wwinky99]

People lining up over twelve hours before court. No wonder some are falling asleep in court.

[@immaseahorse24]

The jurors don't line up, they are the only people who matter

[@wwinky99]

@ I was referring to the spectators. The reporters commented on it in this clip.

[@AngelPrissy]

​@@immaseahorse24no, the trial is part of a public process. The jury is only one part of the process.

[@karenq2073]

Showing how pompous the judge is if she didn’t make it so hard people wouldn’t be sleeping outside to share the trail the fact that she closed it to public made it a circus

[@filukkasunivers2389]

How can you run a case if you still have dna that haven't been tested?

[@fruitsnac9088]

Right?

[@Libbathegreat]

Liggett was running for sheriff, that's how

[@fridaytieday]

Because the other items have the real killers DNA.....and it probably is a group of males and females.

[@JacobC479]

There is no other DNA? There wasn’t any DNA (other than the girls’) at the scene or on any evidence. They can say there’s none of his DNA but there’s also not any unknown male’s DNA.

[@heatherreams2852]

The tears on her face absolutely broke my heart. It's all so heartbreaking but it's just one of those details I hadn't been thought about. She/they must have been so scared.

[@SorelaLanguageSchool]

A killer would get rid of clothing with the victims's blood, not wash and wear them hoping for the compunds in the clothing to deteriorate. Obviously, it wasnt Richard Allen who committed the crime.

[@mistyjackson1745]

He had five Yrs to get rid of everything !

[@kelleewolfe2834]

@SorelaLanguageSchool you don't think he had more than one pair of jeans? They don't know what kind of jeans there were. Unless they're khaki they all look alike. He either tossed his boots right away and bought new ones or he wore the others out and bought more. Men in the rural midwest generally wear that type of boot. May not be the same brand, but the same style of boot, even that color is sold everywhere around here. Same for the jacket. Men here wear Carhart, women too. It very popular. He could have replaced it. Its been seven years. And he had two to go shopping... The common clothes most definitely convict him, but you can't say he did do it just because there was no dna found on then!

[@jenniferferguson1517]

Didn’t get rid of his cloths, didn’t get rid of his car, didn’t leave the area. Either he is really stupid, and really smart at the same time, or he is innocent.

[@jenniferferguson1517]

@@mistyjackson1745 the only one at fault for that is the state. He literally gave them every opportunity to arrest him 3 days after the trial.

[@cor-z8m]

This is the most bizarre case ever! FBI should have been called sooner. Too many years have passed. The video is my only clue to hang on to.

[@tv-21]

Omg I knew it wasn't him and I told everyone. Omg I'm a psychic and I know it wasn't him omg omg omg. Free him already

[@lc285]

Even the 2 second loop video law enforcement presented to the public is misleading. The full video was 43 seconds, and bridge guy was no where near the girls as depicted.

[@PinkKelly07]

@@lc285I believe the BG video is fabricated. Made up. Not real. Imo

[@karenq2073]

Idk if it’s true I just saw it on KZbin video said FBI was dismissed from the case by the state if that’s true something completely corrupt happened

[@Ditzychic]

@@tv-21They haven’t found anyone’s DNA, so is everyone innocent then?

[@rick7401]

I really don’t think RA did it. It just doesn’t make sense . Like at all

[@Mrs.Milkins23]

LE screwed this up so bad… I can’t believe how much time they let go by and allowed the responsible person or people get away! Infuriating.

[@popsfashions309]

No D.n.a.?.... If it don't fit, you must acquit!

[@heatherbowlan1961]

It almost sounds like THAY purposely lost things , is there a few odenittes inside the police department in Delphi, there was three investigators that were looking into odemizim , one was arrested , and one was murdered , nothing withthe third one , this is a very strange case ! I this is was a sick evil plot !

[@bunnyluver2176]

@@heatherbowlan1961this is a very strange case indeed. LEO’s definitely fumbled this case. There’s a mountain of reasonable doubt IMHO.

[@CharlesLeece]

​@@heatherbowlan1961 literally messed it up on purpose because police were involved in this crime

[@mariatorres9789]

​@@popsfashions309Don't compare oj. He was guilty. 😅

[@heatherbowlan1961]

You two have been doing a terrific job bring to us all info ,with details ,you make me feel I was there , great work ! Thank you so much . 😊

[@littlecaseymarie666]

Except they're straight up covering up facts. At 7:44 she said that they didn't find DNA of any unknown mystery person. Yet they found a whole damn hair that didn't belong to RA that they refuse to figure out whom it belongs to. Come on.

[@littlecaseymarie666]

How? They straight up covered up facts. At 7:53 she said that they didn't find DNA of any unknown mystery person. Yet they found a whole damn hair that didn't belong to RA that they refuse to figure out whom it belongs to. Come on.

[@PinkKelly07]

Sad part is, other than the obvious, the girls….if this innocent man walks, his life is ruined. He will never live a normal life, not in Delphi, anyway. I believe his life is in danger. In, or out, of prison.

[@vikingsong2068]

I'd question why he's confessed sixty times to the murder and how he knew details about the case that hadn't been made public if he's innocent? That's the burning question. Could be the confessions were coerced. The police claimed he knew details about the case that hadn't been made public. Yet there is not a single shred of DNA linking him to the crime scene. Could be he helped out with the abduction of the girls. He didn't have to touch them for that. He could have simply threatened them with a gun and someone else killed the girls. Something is definitely off with this case.

[@mn-nf3dd]

He confessed sixty-one times. Tells a lot. even if the evidence is not a slam dunk.

[@user-jc8py7dw7r]

He’s not innocent, dimwit. He’s confessed numerous times.

[@karatezucchini]

@@user-jc8py7dw7rYou should do a little more research before you call someone else a dimwit. His “confessions” under duress are in no way proof of anything.

[@Remmy0930]

He isn't innocent. The sad part is that this investigation was so horribly done that he will now most likely walk free. THAT is the sad part. You don't confess over 60 times and use details that ONLY the murderer would have known like using a box cutter (that info was never given to the public BEFORE he made those confessions), admit to wearing the same exact outfit that is seen on the bridge guy in the video (he didn't know they had the video when he told them what clothes he was wearing, they matched to a T), he wouldn't have said "it's over" either. No innocent man says that. It blows my mind that people genuinely believe he is innocent now just because this investigation was obviously botched. That doesn't mean they have the wrong man, that just means they didn't dot their i's and cross their t's. He just so happened to park his car in a location that he didn't have to either? What about the round that was found at the scene that came from Allen's gun? He did it. He's just going to walk now because the police were horrible at their jobs and just expected Allen to take a plea deal.

[@Bubba__Sawyer]

The prosecution's case is crumbling before our eyes. I knew this would happen.

[@brittdawgggarfarf1882]

Why did you know?

[@mariatorres9789]

​@@brittdawgggarfarf1882The shakiness of LE & the judge through everything.

[@mandy2117]

​@@mariatorres9789plus one suicide one cop dead and he believed the odin threoy and one todd click arrested for work realated crap right b4 the trail and they arrested ra 10 days b4 the election.

[@jenniferferguson1517]

And “the whole world is watching” even if Gull is trying her darnst to impede that

[@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724]

It’s really sad because the real killer is still out there!! Their poor families will have to sit through another trial possibly too! So sad and I pray that the real killer doesn’t strike again.

[@laurahughes1987]

Scapegoat without a doubt but they have already all destroyed his life.

[@trobertson1825]

I hope the jury isn't as backwards as the state is

[@amberl3305]

Me too. I live 30 mins away from Delphi. I'm regularly disgusted by gross things/people etc in this state.

[@aro5490]

@@amberl3305fellow Hoosier here. This case is a disgrace to our state.

[@lc285]

Smart questions are being asked by the jury. It gives one hope.

[@vinnivanhood]

Me and everyone I know said from day one that the cops were involved, we all know they are dirty AF!

[@BiscuitsMom917]

They will probably convict him just to convict someone. I guarantee those crime.scene photos got them wanting someone to go down for the crime and RA is right there.

[@RestrictionMode]

Wow. Thanks for the updates on this case, WTHR! Hearing the details is rough, and this whole case is not solid. Rest in peace sweet girls! ❤

[@claudettes9697]

This poor man and these poor families. This is many great injustices. 😢 Great coverage.

[@Queen_-gg5jn]

Poor man? He is no poor man at all , he murdered two children

[@MsRotorwings]

He put himself at the scene. He confessed. It’s his own darn fault.

[@michellemichelle2061]

I think this man is being framed. I don’t think they have enough evidence

[@michellemichelle2061]

@@Queen_-gg5jnwhere’s your proof?

[@AmonAnon-vw3hr]

@MsRotorwings just like the central park 5, but look how they're treated. Free, and millionaires to boot.

[@fruitsnac9088]

Ive seen people in delphi talking. They know something is wrong

[@ShyLow4]

They have known from the start something is off

[@sarahallan6262]

The cult thing is more plausable

[@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724]

@@sarahallan6262I agree

[@christinecheeseman]

​@@sarahallan6262did you see the vid of a detective saying the FBI thought it was Ron Logan, and they also believed in the Odin theory

[@jannater28]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bH6uhX-BbKeXpNUsi=0PAg0HtynvKE2IQ0

[@Phoenixhunter157]

Now why’d they think this man did this in the first place? I’ve forgotten how we got here

[@YaYYaY_10]

We have 2 more weeks of testimonials ...wait until the confessions

[@slaws2279]

@@Phoenixhunter157 He placed himself on the bridge on the day of the crime and described wearing similar clothing as the man on Libby’s video.

[@KyleTMcN]

@@YaYYaY_10 you mean his confessions that he killed is (still alive) family and his (nonexistent) grandchildren?

[@Phoenixhunter157]

@@KyleTMcNI’m not sure what you mean. He confessed to killing them to his family and nonexistent grandchildren?

[@Phoenixhunter157]

@@slaws2279ok, so that’s what ignited this whole thing. Thank you because I truly couldn’t remember but I haven’t followed this story in many years

[@sarahhendridge3774]

If his DNA was not present then this man is being used as a scapegoat for their utter incompetence.

[@michelleboyes1873]

There is no one else's DNA either.

[@neacienation]

Exactly .@@michelleboyes1873

[@SmoknBlondie]

It more convincing that zero dna was found on his clothing,gun,car or home.

[@GingerNinja1]

😆 A scapegoat? You all have amnesia! He confessed over 60 times to committing these crimes! They also didn't find anyone else's DNA either.

[@SmoknBlondie]

@ show us the confession that came from him without being in a mental breakdown and without the details given to him in discovery. The white van was in many of the call in tips which were discussed between him and his lawyers. The therapist was obsessed with the case and stepped over the line a few different times while treating him if you call it that. Where is the recording of her sessions with Allen?! I don’t believe anything coming from the states side if this case without hardcore evidence to collaborate their claims.

[@AngelPrissy]

The judge telling people not to fall asleep shouldnt force them to wait all night in the freezing cold to get a seat in the courtroom. She is wrong.

[@ilibili7489]

Have you thought about the families of the girl who have to go through this horrific evidence and see people sleep through it. It is certainly not ideal they have to wait to enter the courtroom, but it doesn’t excuse the lack of decorum. They should go to bed if they are too exhausted for this.

[@DeniseS-i4h]

She is trying to kick every one out the judge wants no transparency.

[@jenniferferguson1517]

@@ilibili7489 it’s my understanding that it was one of the victims family members that fell asleep. I really don’t understand how some of you do not see the judge’s “power trip.”

[@AngelPrissy]

@@ilibili7489 you are not educated of the situation the judge has caused. Please inform yourself.

[@deborahk7134]

This judge is a big bully!!

[@amityislandchum]

What a joke of a case.

[@Truecrimestitcher]

This is truly frightening to hear his dna wasn’t at the crime scene, if the perpetrators are still out there 😔

[@susanglover1972]

I think he's innocent.

[@lc285]

So far, at least enough to cause reasonable doubt.

[@stelmosfire11]

He’s guilty. Yes, guilty.

[@angieketcher5917]

​@@stelmosfire11 How did you come to this conclusion?

[@amityislandchum]

I can't believe they were even allowed to bring this case to trial. They don't have a single piece of actual evidence.

[@amyjones9936]

They have the wrong person They wanted to solve this so badly they chose the person who just so happened to take a walk on the same trail that day. Shame on them all

[@us4damons]

I felt the same way instantly. It was so obvious. And so scary. They can just ruin someone's life.

[@adrianeelise3849]

Why didn’t he come forward right away?he waited a few days to come forward

[@Libbathegreat]

@@adrianeelise3849 So what? Some of the witnesses they're claiming are all-important in this case didn't come forward until weeks later. Frankly RA is certainly now regretting coming forward at all. If he hadn't they would never have looked into him. These cops needed a convenient fall guy and they were lucky enough to find a volunteer. The lesson of this case is never try to "help" the police. No good deed goes unpunished.

[@ec6769]

But why RA all the other people before him would have been just as good to put it on… come on there is a reason they picked RA. He looks like BG he was in the area at time of murders & his car. I mean the state did give him time to get rid of evidence and they certainly didn’t do as well collecting evidence as they should but they have cause to believe that RA is the killer.

[@catrmr8]

This man is a scapegoat… the whole case is a huge mess and sadly we may never know who are the people behind this ritualistic murder

[@cosmokramer5055]

Probably the man who owns the property where they were found. He sounds, looks and wore a shirt that looks identical to the famous pic taken of the unknown man.

[@mjbeezer]

The FBI came to the same conclusion, but they were removed from the case by ISP. Real sketch.

[@mariatorres9789]

​@@cosmokramer5055Doesn't look like him to me, not at all.

[@BD52Ravens]

Yea a scapegoat. Even though he admitted it 60 times. You fucken retard why would he admit

[@HJcillie]

The pic was faked and studio produced...it's not real.​@@cosmokramer5055

[@misslaceej]

The jury has to look. This is so disgusting. Allen is terrified and being bullied and coerced. Sick

[@darleneww3670]

I don't believe RA is guilty with more certainty each day.

[@2manyjules]

Judge Gull should be ashamed the people there that fall asleep only do so because she does everything to keep the public access so minimal and makes people wait in line for a seat for almost the whole night. And that in an age were courtlivestreams or audiostreams would be easily conducted. Judge has forgotten she works for the public.

[@Hellfish_08]

All judges are pos on power trips

[@Bigg_Swig]

Why in the world would you not DNA test the women’s hairs when Richard Allen lived with two women at the time?

[@BeRightBack131]

That is EXACTLY what I want to know, too. It's been over 6 years. Why wasn't it tested within the first 6 months?!

[@summerbright2769]

It’s very suspicious that the evidence found at the crime scene suggest that the DNA found on the victims was for the family member. I wonder something is wrong with this case from the start. I’ve been watching a little bit here and there and there is something wrong because they accused should’ve had some kind of DNA on the accused to prove or otherwise..

[@whatshaploing8256]

They were preliminarily matched to close female family members of one of the girls - and since none of the close female family members of the girls are suspected of killing them - it wasn't necessary to pinpoint exactly which relative the hair came from. It wasn't just 'some female'.

[@deborahk7134]

@@whatshaploing8256they said it belonged to Kelsie German!

[@whatshaploing8256]

@@deborahk7134 To my knowledge it was never tested for an exact match. Since it was her sister's sweatshirt it is assumed to be her sister's hair.

[@danasharpe7422]

Abby and Libby were not young women. They were young teenaged girls. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@CMare-pt7ei]

Who said that? 🤬😱😱😱🤬🤬🤬

[@Staceypotterphotography]

The judge needs to dismiss this case now. Poor guy. He obviously was a scapegoat because they couldn’t find the real murderers.

[@mermaid-n-a-wineglass3689]

Is this man taking the fall for a cult or someone threatening him? No disrespect but from the beginning it was a bizarre case. No DNA leaking him, the hair wasn’t his, and he is only 5’4. The bridge guy 5’6 to 5’10? My heart breaks for these families.

[@Stephany-x4k]

5’6 with his military boots on. That’s what he said he wore. There’s no DNA against anyone… but people were convicted on strong circumstantial evidence long before DNA..❤

[@TimothyStclair-v4p]

BG is 5.5ft at most. never close to 5ft 10inch.

[@mermaid-n-a-wineglass3689]

@@TimothyStclair-v4p leave it to the news stating those heights. I pray it’s him, I want these families to be able to begin to heal. ❤️

[@CheapsKate77]

@@Stephany-x4k Just imagine how many innocent people were convicted though 😢

[@mariatorres9789]

​@@Stephany-x4kYes, there is DNA, and it's not his.

[@nancifyme]

Thanks for your objective coverage. It is in-depth yet concise. Your hard work is appreciated by the public, like me.

[@littlecaseymarie666]

How? They straight up covered up facts. For example, At 7:53 she said that they didn't find DNA of any unknown mystery person. Yet they found a whole damn hair that didn't belong to RA that they refuse to figure out whom it belongs to. Come on.

[@simonegarciatsu2854]

What in the world is going on with this case? For one the LE dropped the ball from the jump. Now they could have the wrong guy. These girls were murdered & more than likely SA’d horribly. It’s a living nightmare to even think that the monster that did this could still be out there. We can’t have more children murdered. Justice for Libby & Abby!!!!!

[@angiebee532]

They just said there was NO evidence of SA so you're not paying attention at all.

[@TziporaRaphaella]

For what it’s worth (and while it’s obvious there was a sexual component to the crime… does KZbin allow me to say that word?) repeatedly testimony has stated there was no sign of SA with either girl. The theory is the killer was interuppted or who the heck knows what goes on in such a twisted mind. But if there’s anything even vaguely good to be said (god, especially after the details shared here. The tears detail. I had to stop the video for a bit. Ugh) they weren’t SA’d to the degree you’re implying. This we know. It’s god awful either way but just wanted to point that out. That’s barely a comfort given the details shared in this very video but just struck me as a weird thing to be saying given we know that wasn’t the case. Most infuriating is wrong or right guy (I still lean towards logically speaking there’s a considerable chance they got the right guy) we will most likely never even know because LE screwed this up so bad over and over and over again. That’s the part that gets me. Small town blah blah so some initial mistakes, this is somewhat understandable. But that the state police played a considerable role in things and have no excuse not to know better and both they and local LE continuously botched this case and mishandled all sorts of things from start to finish for over 7 and a half years?! I don’t even have words. These girls deserved so much better.

[@jasonbrown467]

there was no SA performed, it may have been the intention, but it never happened for what ever reason

[@filukkasunivers2389]

Look how tiny he is. Would he be able to handle two girls at the same time?

[@mariatorres9789]

They were stripped down, that's sexual assault. The guy probably write a condom. Clearly they were all incompetent, so saying no SA is absurd. THEY WERE BOTH STRIPPED NAKED.

[@bryantrudy568]

Everything is fucked here, Dude. It sounds to me like two people were involved. I have a high suspicion that Allen wasn’t actually connected.

[@jessicaortizzz]

I was certain it was him, now I have doubt because of the police departments lack of accountability.

[@angieketcher5917]

I remember seeing the video with a man but idk who the man was. With all the evidence they don't have on the man n the girls. It looks like it wasn't this man.

[@littlecaseymarie666]

Rule of thumb, never put all your trust in LE (or the government as well). Always assume that they're lying to you. Because 99% of the time, they are

[@jessicaortizzz]

@@littlecaseymarie666 man, I’m finding that out now! I thought this was going to be like Darrell Brooks case where it was all there proven!

[@by.jkh.]

Me too. Now I doubt everything I have heard from officials.

[@jessicaortizzz]

@ exactly! After hearing the interviews, I don’t want to say it but I have a lot of doubt 😩

[@theresawarren4849]

Gee how anyone could convict based on this evidence is beyond me,

[@white_genocide2050]

The biggest evidence is the video with out that video it would have been a cold case

[@anonone8954]

@@theresawarren4849 some people are blaming a dead man that can not defend himself. This shouldn't surprise you.

[@davidmellet261]

Wow they dragged the parents into court for this , terrible police work

[@bethysbarn]

Maybe if you weren’t basically forcing people to sleep outside the courthouse to be able to get in then they wouldn’t be so tired that they’re nodding off in the courtroom! 🙄🤦‍♀️

[@bethysbarn]

Those poor girls 😭💔 just when I think it can’t get any more horrifying then another expert comes out and makes it worse 😭💔

[@flux1968]

Even if it was Allen, there seems to be a good amount of reasonable doubt so far

[@GibboFrank]

Fog reveal was filed for today Gull took it under advisement. Foojackao the defense objected

[@cpamacjd]

Some doubt, but not reasonable doubt

[@flux1968]

@@cpamacjd No forensic connection is pretty reasonable

[@PinkKelly07]

@@cpamacjdyou’re kidding, right?? NO DNA of RA, at the crime scene

[@mariatorres9789]

​@cpamacjd Reasonable doubt isn't 'beyond all doubt'. Without hearing he's guilty constantly for 2 years, there is certainly reasonable doubt, since there nothing corroborating guilt. Nothing.

[@connmancustoms5577]

Delphi Debacil.. how and why would a dna techs dna showup on tested evidence without being grounds for cross contamination????

[@JTwelks32]

He’s innocent af

[@phoenixlight1111]

RA is not the killer.

[@honey3519]

You don't know that

[@lc285]

Possibly. Hiwever, Do you know who the killer is? If so, report it so the possibility of an innocent man doesn't get sentenced to life in prison.

[@mariatorres9789]

I thought he was this entire time, until now. Omgosh, he's clearly innocent. 😮

[@lukefuller1936]

There’s no DNA of anyone else at the scene that doesn’t mean it’s not him

[@white_genocide2050]

​@@mariatorres9789he looks like the bridge guy without that video he would have got away

[@LauraLancealot]

Is the state hiding evidence of an unknown perpetrator?

[@bunnyluver2176]

Idk but RA didn’t do this.

[@Diametricallyopposed00]

I’ve never been sold on his guilt. I think he’s a patsy. There is something fishy going on here in my opinion. The judge is making strange rulings in terms of evidence. It just doesn’t add up. God bless this man if he’s innocent. He’s been through a lot he didn’t deserve at all.

[@carmichael3594]

Almost seems that way

[@lindseysanders3656]

@@Diametricallyopposed00 I have concerns about the patsy theory being they waited 5 years to arrest him. There have been other poi’s and they didn’t formally bring in any of those people. So, let’s wait to hear the confessions, and see what they have on that and go from there. It may be even worse than what we’ve heard so far. Sad, really. We can hope for the best though.

[@AliBaba-ke5jn]

One of their own maybe?

[@krisfarrell6304]

Dude, this is so fucked, look at that poor guy,

[@darlenePenz-yo4wq]

FREE RICHARD ALLEN !!

[@Iamsam-jl5fn]

You can’t convict someone with emotions. You cannot!!!

[@kgmail7364]

Moron

[@AJMacDonaldJr]

I wonder about this juror who can't bear to look at the crime scene photos. I'm sure they're hard to look at but as a juror he has to look at them. If he can't he should step down or be removed.

[@Bowiegirl]

I agree. This jury knew about the devastating pictures and evidence they will have to witness. I am sure where asked during the jury selection process if they are able to do so to evaluate evidence objectively. I am sure it is a million times worse than one can imagine however RA deserves a fair trial and Abby and Libby deserve justice. If the juror is unable to view the evidence he / she should step down.

[@PinkKelly07]

💯💯💯💯AGREE

[@mariatorres9789]

He's already seen enough. They've seen it all already.

[@amityislandchum]

He's an alternate, so it doesn't matter that much anyway.

[@possumfriend2335]

They should be seeing it for the first time in trial. What makes you think they've seen it all already? ​@@mariatorres9789

[@Digitalgems9000]

young women? bro they were KIDS!

[@Tiger-111]

Consistently lax work by LE. Disturbing to see how much they neglected to do for the sake of two innocent children

[@darlenePenz-yo4wq]

Hole man is a liar from hell he knows Richard Allen had nothing to do with the murders. It saddens me to think some people think Richard Allen is a killer. He was as innocent man trying to help out that is all. It could have happened to any of us. Start looking at the odinist, they interviewed them after patty german pointed her finger their way.and that was a few days after the murders . Does that not say something.? Or does everyone that has no idea want Richard to pay for they’re doings?

[@777hc777]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXXQnKSOfrGBjKc

[@yesyourang2224]

How can there be no transfer of RA DNA with such a intimate murder

[@indyjoyblooms]

I’m just reading the title and description right now. This a tough one to watch. I believe he looks to be in shock. He’s innocent and terrified of these people. No dna🤣cmon. Cmon. There is nothing worse than an incarcerated terrified innocent man.The two victims are at peace in heaven.😢

[@littlecaseymarie666]

I'm a psychic medium and I can tell you right now, Abby and Libby are furious. Can't cross over. Not in heaven yet

[@jrodgers211]

@@littlecaseymarie666hahahahahaha. Who did it then Ms psychic? Who is gonna win the Super Bowl?

[@littlecaseymarie666]

@jrodgers211 you're ignorant and closed minded AF. Do some research on psychics before you attack someone. But who did it? A blonde haired woman and a man thats either related to or family friend of the girls. Possibly someone else too behind the scenes

[@marlene9412]

No dna hmmm sounds like a professional like a cop . I see two men did this and they set this guy up he is innocent I think they gonna dismiss case not enough evidence

[@TrueLady-m9v]

Doesn't have to be cops! Just a Bad guy or two?

[@charliet3891]

They should have checked any female dna as well because that’s what helped lead police to the alleged Long Island serial killer

[@nitaphillips2752]

Is this botched investigation why Judge Gull made it so hard for public to have access to trial details?

[@knicholsch]

Classic case of scrambling to find a suspect to keep the citizens feel safe and accusing an innocent person, ruining his life, while the actual killer runs loose.

[@Angelas_Objective_Opinion]

LE linked Rex as LISK from his wife's hair found on victims. Very disappointed female DNA wasn't examined closer. The whole investigation is an insult to Libby and Abby. Libby and Abby's families must be beyond furious and completely disappointed with LE for how they've handled this case. Heartbreaking

[@slaws2279]

Who is Rex?

[@Angelas_Objective_Opinion]

​@@slaws2279long island serial killer currently in custody, Rex huerman. Cold case murders going back to the 90's!

[@dewilew2137]

@@slaws2279 she JUST told you. LISK. 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@slaws2279]

@@dewilew2137 LISK? I don’t speak in acronyms, twink set.

[@marshmallow1488]

Agreed!

[@Crazy-Times.]

They have the wrong man obviously 🤦‍♀️

[@yeahboiii6640]

The guy didn't do it.....

[@roberttrivett2594]

"we are really fortunate to have a seat...." what the hell, a day in advance people are lining up just so the public can hold the state accountable. no transcript, no audio, no camera In the year of our Lord 2024

[@cindykaufman8174]

Does it really take all those police officers for that 1 little guy?

[@VictoriaMarch13]

I was thinking the same thing! It's all a big show. No way it takes that many cops for one small man that's cuffed and shackled.

[@Charmainejay]

He will walk and so he should. If hes innocent.

[@livierussell9221]

Im so proud of you!! You did such a great job.. ive been following since the beginning and remember you

[@jensingalong]

Wonderful sketches. Lee! And good job reporting you guys. Been doing great.