DELPHI TRIAL DAY 5: Inside the Courtroom: Autopsy Photos Shown

[@autumnfalls116]

The sketches your friend did were so tastefully done, yet were still so powerful in getting the information and depravity across

[@sharp3727]

You’re right; I agree. I also feel there was compassion in her relaying the information.

[@alienabuser3693]

Why is nobody talking about the ritualistic letters ,sticks, horns, the pre-cutwood? I truly believe that the weapon was a stick.😢 on the tree above their head in their blood was written (hail Odin)😮😢

[@LindsayFigurski]

i like the wrtiting - almost to make it less horrific

[@glendaswartz5347]

I am very disturbed by all the pretense in a case that has been ravaged and scavenged by so many. I wish scruples still led reporting. It makes me so sad. 😢

[@et.h]

​@@alienabuser3693because it's a conspiracy theory made up by the defense pr team perhaps?

[@karleet]

Thank you for not sugar coating or mincing any words in regard to the girls’ wounds. I’m sorry that you and others have to see that, but like you said, it’s important that the truth gets to all of us and we know what happened to those beautiful angels.

[@summawriters106]

Well said. If we look away from the horrors in humanity; we minimize the depth of the dark abyss and how a family, a community, law enforcement, and so many others, are forever impacted and harmed.

[@Censored4UViaGoogle]

We have a right to know and shouldn’t allow the powers that be to keep us in the dark.

[@silverstuff182]

The trial attendees have to see the pictures but the girls had to experience what made them. That’s why we have to have the guts to look. For their sake.

[@erinhastreiter8325]

I am so thankful to Lauren for giving us the highest quality coverage.

[@manfrummt]

My daughter was murdered and i do wish people knew the details so that they would be shocked into possibly making changes in policy or law or maybe their lives.

[@tchili1]

So very sorry for the loss of your beautiful daughter. I'm praying for strength and healing for you.❤

[@manfrummt]

@@tchili1 thank you

[@amberlevesque]

I’m so very sorry for your loss.

[@bonnie3232]

I am so sorry for your loss. I am sending you love. God bless you and give you strength.

[@manfrummt]

@@bonnie3232 thank you Bonnie

[@amystone6511]

I can't begin to imagine how hard today was for the families,and all of you. I used to be a bailiff in the criminal courts in marion county indiana and had to sit in on trials alot. I know how hard it is to not take it home with you and let it consume your thoughts and emotions. You are doing an amazing service and a wonderful job at telling these young ladies last day here on earth. You are being as delicate as you can be and being very respectful. Take care of your mental health in all of this. And thank you again. See you at lunch tomorrow 🫶

[@enick7955]

Everyone who is following Abby and Libby's case take care of yourself. Remember, you're not alone. ❤

[@PennyWatkins-ql1gv]

@@amystone6511 Amen please ask our heavenly Father help you and these beautiful young angels family get through this horror ordeal our thoughts and prayers are Everyone involved in this matter,may these beautiful Angels fly free forever in our hearts....😢🙏😞❤️😥🙏😇🙏😇❤️

[@amystone6511]

@@PennyWatkins-ql1gv beautifully put 🤍

[@traquinason1976]

❤

[@abigailrose5993]

🩷🙏💙

[@kaizen1723]

I absolutely love the way you recap the case. No sensationalism, just a measured delivery of what happened. Appreciate you!

[@georgiegirl8345]

I’ve experienced a dead zone (no signal) while texting with someone many times. During that period I was not able to receive any texts from the person I was texting with. I was able to send texts but they wouldn’t deliver. Once I passed through the dead zone, I immediately received all the texts that were sent to me while I was riding as a passenger through the dead zone. Additionally, my texts were delivered as well. The time stamped was the time that I received the messages - not the time that they were actually sent to me. I don’t understand how that phone data expert was not able to explain how it was possible to receive all those texts at once. The fact that many messages were received at once should’ve been a tell tale sign to him that at some point they had lost the signal which later came back (4:30 am)

[@brendaredmond4678]

Exactly.

[@chilo8187]

Right?! This has happened to me so many times. It seems like such a basic thing…

[@Angelsdust87]

Exactly what I was thinking as well

[@georgiegirl8345]

@@chilo8187 I know, right. My thought as well (basic thing). I knew I couldn’t have been the only one who experienced this issue while in a dead zone.

[@starflower703]

That’s possible, but the phone could also have been placed in a faraday bag.

[@aaronmurdoch7362]

Tell your sketching friend thank you!!! Her art and style are top notch! Also I am a morbidly curious person to a point. I’ve seen many crime scene photos, but this is one I don’t think I could handle. The sketches are perfect with enough detail to understand what happened but not too much detail where you get sick to your stomach. ❤❤

[@Censored4UViaGoogle]

I remember seeing crime scene pics of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman recently and I never fully grasped the horror involved in their deaths until I did. That said I couldn’t handle seeing children, no way.

[@TriskeleSun]

I thought the same thing. I don’t want to see these girls. I’m horrified at what they went through.

[@bonnie3232]

​@@TriskeleSunI can not imagine being the mama having to see these horrific pictures. God bless them. I am a retired RN, I have seen many wounds, etc. But, I never saw wounds inflicted by an evil monster.

[@swansong5263]

@@aaronmurdoch7362 I agree, I think the worst I’ve seen Are the Tate crime photos. Children? So very hard, bless their hearts, The fear is unimaginable!

[@easmr1]

As a mother it makes me physically ill to think about the horror these poor girls and their families have gone through

[@idahoanrebelguurll3367]

How could a human being do this to such young, beautiful children? Horrific

[@jeanie8831]

It so is. Whoever did it is super depraved and must have daydreamed about it for years or maybe his whole adult life. I believe it's referred to as fantasizing. Can you even imagine thinking about killing young children? No, of course not. I do believe it to be Richard Allen.

[@suetonarelli8881]

So tragic and horrific.

[@ogadlogadl490]

To be able to do this shows that you are in fact not a human, but a monster.

[@summawriters106]

This comes from a darkness we can never understand; which is why it’s so important that we realize it exists….violence isn’t like the movies.

[@glenf6639]

Or human beings plural. It is so awful. It’s also really weird to me that so far, no one has described a person that sounds like Richard Allen and also super weird is that NOONE has pointed to him to say that he was who they saw either. I’m super doubtful about it being him and these sweet baby girls deserve true justice. 😢

[@aprilgomo]

The sketch artist friend of yours did an amazing job!! I am so glad we get to see these sketches bc it really helps to understand what happened. Thank you so very much!!

[@Mamabear-k1r]

I can tell it has affected you deeply, Lauren. I’m so sorry. Thank you for telling their story. I hope they convict the right person for this terrible, horrific double murder. May God be with the families as they go through this trauma

[@christinawelsh3417]

So I stopped following this case because I'm not sure they have the people who did this personally my opinion only, I think there was so many collosal mess ups in this horrific case 😭😭😭. But Lauren brings such honor in reporting this I am checking it out again.... It's so sad.

[@susanfogarty4897]

Such difficult reporting Lauren. Thank you for your professionalism with these sensitive and horrific murders😢😓

[@ItsMeCheryl1231]

Agreed Susan. Lauren is a pro! Her TV journalism background is shining through!

[@jenniehughes6927]

​@@ItsMeCheryl1231 I admire her absolute tenacity in getting all the facts and details.

[@glendaswartz5347]

I am very disturbed by all the pretense in a case that has been ravaged and scavenged by so many. I wish scruples still led reporting. It makes me so sad. 😢

[@KimBTown]

Lauren don’t underestimate the trauma you have encounter. You can’t unsee this stuff and writing plus sketching has put it into a deeper memory base in your own brain. Seek Counceling before you see issues in your own life. You do so much for us. Many thanks for providing the truth.

[@ItsMeCheryl1231]

@@KimBTown Absolutely right, Kim. Don't forget, her husband is a psychologist. She has him to lean on.

[@Wanda-g6z]

You will never be able to unsee what your day was like. Thank you for your bravery in reporting this

[@MFCC2015]

@Hiddentruecrime, thank you for this video. Please take care of yourself. This is so hard just to listen to your recap for everyone. Prayers for all listening. Spread love and Not hate.

[@tassymccormick]

I often wonder what would have become of this case had Libby not captured that video. I’m also shocked the killer didn’t take the phone with him.

[@Phoenixhunter157]

You’re so right.

[@Sleutherine]

I think the explanation for the texts coming in all at once is simple. I’ve gone camping before with bad service and when I got into a good area, multiple texts came through all at once. This has happened to me many times. I don’t think there’s much more to it. Also, I think the failed fingerprint unlock was just Libby’s own hand. Say she started recording the video at 2:13, it filmed for 43 seconds and finished at 2:14. Bridge guy has approached by that point so she tried to hide her phone. The screen goes black and she was probably holding it with her palm and the phone detected is an unlock attempt.

[@Lobo-tommy10]

I think she was in a car trunk and it opened.

[@Sleutherine]

@@Lobo-tommy10 there’s no way she could have made it to a car in less than a minute.

[@AudretteK]

@@Lobo-tommy10there was pools of blood there. The girls passed away at the crime scene

[@Sleutherine]

@@AudretteKI totally think a blood expert will confirm that.

[@perriebradley7850]

But they weren't moving at 430 they are supposed gone by then

[@alaineedington9733]

Thanks for answering the questions we've all had for 7 years.

[@luluesparza7360]

You’re a good reporter/narrator and a hard worker. Thank you for sharing!

[@heathercarolyn11]

Those poor girls, my heart is shattered for their families 😢😢😢

[@enick7955]

Oh, he was out to kill them. He knew to hit the neck. Monster

[@TeeJayNZ]

@@enick7955he had to bcos they saw him and probably knew him it’s a small community .

[@RodneyMunch8767]

I really appreciate your coverage of this trial, Lauren. It is so important that this trial is exposed to public scrutiny. Despite Judge Gull's restrictions, you are one of the few channels that can provide objective information. Thank you so much.

[@SiljCBcnr]

She tried to unlock the phone without bridge guy noticing, likely to call for help, and failed. It's so tragic.

[@pearreemason1179]

And it was an attempt at a “biometric”phone unlock, which would mean either thumb or face (not sure if facial recognition was available in 2017 for iPhones yet). Could possibly be the moment she was overtaken.

[@patriciaseybold7396]

So heartbreaking.

[@teraallan]

What if her phone got wet as they crossed the creek and reconnected when it dried out (around 4:30am)?

[@LB-lt3pz]

Yes or too cold overnight

[@enick7955]

My thoughts, too.❤

[@hippiebits2071]

Great comment!

[@Sparkinthedarkness]

@@teraallan phones will turn off if too hot or too cold. That’s probably what happened

[@teraallan]

@@SparkinthedarknessDo you think it got too cold when it got wet? When the phone went off, it was the hottest part of the day and then turned on at 4:30am which might likely have been the coldest time of a 24hr period.

[@cheribee968]

I think of their loved ones watching the utter destruction of what had been two beautiful girls. It’s heartbreaking

[@glo9547]

I wish Sarah would've called the. Cops

[@cheribee968]

Yes

[@jennyray1476]

She sounded like a second hand knowledge witness using what she saw on news to make up a report, no amber alert was ever even put out

[@QuintessentialKeygirl]

If you see something say something (but quickly!)

[@kristenjustkristen9462]

If she really saw blood, don't we think she would've??

[@Amy_Stanmore]

Yes I don't believe her whatsoever

[@bobbywummerphotography9798]

Lauren you have amazing coverage on this case! As a retired Police and canine officer in Florida (30 years) I commend you!

[@summawriters106]

Love the word commend and so apt!

[@riverrun3995]

Richard told police HE WAS THERE on the bridge and they did not ask for his phone THEN⁉⁉⁉⁉⁉WTF

[@sarahwales6276]

He was a witness, Police don't generally take witnesses phones.

[@aprilgomo]

I was wondering the same thing!! Thanks for mentioning this. I feel like this small town police dept wasn’t prepared to handle a crime like this or anything of this magnitude. They also went into this thinking the girls had fallen from the bridge. It’s unfortunate for the victims & their families that they weren’t.

[@lunydidie7700]

Or at least dig deeper about his presence on the bridge. This case is crazy.

[@HoneyBeeRoses]

He was at a grocery store and reported being at the bridge to a conservation officer. Not police. I'm sure things would have been completely different if RA actually went to the police station and gave his statement about being there on that day. They would have gone through his phone then

[@lieke9460]

​@@HoneyBeeRoses Blair went to a police posting at the side of the road.. And I heard she was followed up 7 months later (?)

[@slaws2279]

I didn’t realize Libby’s neck wounds were vertical . . . I feel faint thinking about how she suffered.

[@heidifolk8621]

Thank you Lauren for your hard work. I really felt your pain in discussing the autopsy. My heart is with you

[@FL-CourtReporter]

Great reporting. Better than sound clips of major networks. I come here for reliable podcasters like you 👍💯💯

[@cherylhurst7093]

She isn't sensationalistic like the news networks.

[@bonnie3232]

It's so much better than the major networks. I appreciate that she speaks with professionalism yet with authenic empathy.

[@bonnie3232]

​@@cherylhurst7093I can not stand the sensationalism or when the reporters sound almost gleeful to tell the "big news" when people are suffering.

[@BrendaKallner]

Sorry catching on the replay. Thank you so much for your diligence.

[@sallyknopp]

Me too. And ditto

[@w8tingonu]

I guess I am preaching to the choir I am grateful for this woman's work and commitment. She don't opinionate outside deciphering translation. Very ethical. The way I would want important information. There are alot of rogue nonsense channels claiming the same degree of respect but are very far off the mark. This channel is in the big leagues. I am so grateful she came into my feed the algorithm sent me a lot of vultures first. I am not sure why. The dichotomy of them and Hidden True Crime was far and vast. I know I am in the right place. The timing will always be right. She is honorable and worthy of support.

[@erikaxchristine]

Me too!

[@freeglee3482]

@@w8tingonu ...agree. She doesn't add her own opinion and she is sharing her experience in the courtroom. Copious notes...impressive!

[@MKConnecticut]

In fact Lauren you are correct- there WAS SA! Because two children were either forced to disrobe or their clothes were removed- outdoors, against their will, by and in front of at least one man- probably holding them at gunpoint. That’s sexual assault

[@emma_t_s]

A whole hour missing. That’s very bizzare!

[@dionnedunsmore9996]

Yea it is

[@pmj0seph]

this could easily cause issue on appeal

[@starflower703]

It’s not the only one missing time or that disappeared altogether.

[@kimlarso]

Please elaborate? Ty

[@FreckledFusion10]

The handling of this case was AWFUL! It’s very sad for the girls and their families.

[@mil3276]

I think Abby was killed first and once Libby saw that I believe she might have put up some kind of fight. So sad and horrific. Also if the killer had more interest in Libby it makes sense that Abby’s wound seemed to be quicker and cleaner. And very smart of these girl to hide the cell phone and turn the silencer on.

[@terminus_null]

I thought about that possibility. The medical examiner stated it could have been done with only 1 weapon. Knives or anything used to cut flesh dulls very quickly from what I've learned watching other cases. I was wondering if he did kill Abby first and whatever was used to cut/ slash was not as sharp and it caused more damage? I'm surprised this hasn't come up in testimony. Was he saying something about a box cutter? I have watched an interview of a child thrill killer and he was describing how fast his knife went dull as he was trying to dismember a homeless man by killed. 😞. How can people do this type of brutality? Rip Libby and Abby ❤❤

[@jessicadavis2744]

Wonder if they tried 🆘 function on the iPhone

[@anitabee57]

I think Libby was the target..she had more wounds & was left unclothed.. Too weird that she talked to Keegan Kline, convicted of child porn, the day before & this is brutally murdered shortly after that..coincidence??

[@michelewallace3628]

Thats what I thought he stuck the knife in Abby first so he can focus on lobby with out worrying about Abby running away

[@mymymom2]

Seems so personal with Libby makes me think she was targeted and tricked ,maybe on line to meet up with someone that day.

[@riverrun3995]

Richard said he was there, so people seeing his car-no proof. No DNA, 1 bullet inches underground, The secrecy around trial is hurtful to families. Even if found guilty, there will always be doubt. I feel awful for the girls friends and family. This is a VERY WEAK CASE! Confession after isolation, verbal attacks by guards and inmates. Mixed up eye witnesses, not a clear cut case. SAD for all.

[@starflower703]

I completely agree and I honestly don’t see how they are connecting him to this crime to be perfectly honest.

[@IzzyMariel]

I watch trials all the time and there are always trollswho say they have doubt. Just ignore them.

[@sbaumgartner9848]

It’s early days of the trial.

[@riverrun3995]

@@IzzyMariel Excuse me?? I'm not a troll, I'm worried the police have let the family down. YOUR COMMRNT WAS PAINFUL AND HURTFULL. brought me to tears. I work with children who have cancer in a hospital, I know the pain of a lost child.

[@riverrun3995]

@@sbaumgartner9848 fingers crossed, I want the best for the family, losing a child is the worst

[@kelliekriss2131]

Incredible reporting! Thank you for helping us understand the testimony

[@shelleyw.7707]

The sketches are excellent and so helpful. Very respectful too.

[@WColdblooded357W]

These poor girls. This must have been so terrifying. I always told my daughter and the other women in my life to never allow someone to take her to a secondary location. even if a gun is pointed at you. scream, fight and run. There's only one reason someone wants to take you somewhere private. To do something horrible to you.

[@junebrisch6722]

I agree. Scream at the top of your voice.

[@summawriters106]

Such an important thing to remind each other of frequently because you’ve got to have that mental commitment before confronted with a fear situation. You need preparation and almost an auto-response to force in the moment the “Do what you’re going to right here and now. “. I lived adjacent to where Israel Keyes abducted Samatha Koenig…the video broke my heart, he led her compliantly across one of the busiest roads and intersections in Anchorage….and this is only one example of so many horrific others.

[@kimberlypainter5169]

5:54 this is while driving she saw allll of this?

[@teraallan]

The problem with them screaming on that side of the bridge is that you can’t run across the bridge…you have to walk very carefully. I think that’s part of why he chose that location to abduct. Since the trail ends, it wouldn’t be easy to run, and they certainly couldn’t turn back around and RUN across that bridge. How scary. I really don’t know what I would have done if I was in their situation.

[@teraallan]

Libby would have had to log into her snap chat account on someone else’s phone to be able to send a pic from their device. That is completely unreasonable to do during an abduction…I don’t think that would be her priority at that time.

[@alyssa0411]

You would think that Mrs. Allen would recognize BG’s clothes if that was her husband on that video recording. I do the laundry in our home and I could recognize all jackets, sweaters, hoodies….pant’s etc. that every member of my family wears.

[@tatianaflores1926]

Same

[@MegaTinni]

She knew. 100pct. That's why he confessed to her. Denying was futile. He was afraid he would lose her entirely. And rot in jail alone.

[@jadegrant4119]

I’ve said this from day one. I know she knew

[@MrPaultopp]

@@MegaTinni100 % ? Oh Please ! …..this is 2024 not 1824

[@PagingDrMakeUp]

Thank you for this comment

[@TheOceanGuard]

Thank you so much for your dedication to sharing the information about this case. You are very respectful and professional and I think your work is very important toward transparency and justice for the girls and frankly society. So many of us are invested in justice for them. ♥️ I have been following your updates closely and am so impressed by you camping out, taking such detailed notes and updating us with the live lunches and recaps at night all while you are on no sleep. Thank you 🙏🙏

[@summawriters106]

Nice recap of Lauren’s superb coverage and dedication.

[@ARTWV]

I’m guessing the signal was hit and miss explaining the multiple texts coming through at the same time. Happens to me living in the rural areas

[@dianealarcon8304]

If the phone had gotten wet, it may have taken awhile for it to dry out enough for it to show a text/call is received.

[@hippiebits2071]

As someone who hikes and camps this was my thought as well. You don’t necessarily need to be moving to randomly lose and regain service.

[@chandraroberts3270]

I live in a rural area and go camping a couple of times a year and when I get in to good service areas my phone sounds like it's a video game and I am the winner.😊

[@ARTWV]

@@chandraroberts3270 I know how that goes 😆

[@ARTWV]

@@dianealarcon8304 good point

[@lovelylyrics1687]

Lauren you are so sweet it's clear you are doing everything you can do to share with us and make sure we don't miss out anything so we can all together as a collective community get justice for those girls and decide for ourselves what we think happened.

[@cl5470]

People gawking online are NOT helping. You are using the murder of children for entertainment. At least be honest. You can argue that journalists are helping. The general public listening to the details at home with some popcorn are helping no one. Human curiosity is natural, but let's not pretend to be heroes here. I bet the victims' families would prefer we weren't gossiping about their dead children. And yes, this discussion is speculation and gossip.

[@socaldeb]

48:58 Don't feel self concious about these clear illustrations. This is great. The level of detail is very greatly appreciated.

[@paisleydreamzz]

would love to see you and Dr. John do a joint show with his opinions of the autopsy based on like positions in the targeting aspect etc. what he thinks now.

[@laurarao603]

Yes. I agree.

[@summawriters106]

Ditto.

[@Lizzie-h3j]

I agree. His take on "why' was fascinating. I did Greek mythology at school and I found it so interesting I also learned Latin.

[@summersmakeupchannel9289]

I've been watching you for awhile now and I'm always super impressed to how great this channel is! The work you and Dr John do is amazing! Your my go to channel for true crime! Again thank you for all yo do. And how professional this channel is!

[@lagayames9034]

Lauren has been on this case from the start. So glad you can be as in court as you are. This is a moment in your life that is absolutely meaningful. The girls deserve your determination. Stay the course. 🥇🎖️🏆

[@mommamina5593]

I am a fan and a devoted listener. I wanted to say thank you for sharing the trial info with us. I am also retired LEO. I have been to many scenes and I know the toll it takes on our mind and body. It’s not easy. Please take care of yourself and know that we care about you.

[@summawriters106]

Thank you for sharing your experience. The impact on all professionals involved in dealing with violent crime, child abuse, and these hard cases, is so profound and maintaining some distance and your mental health is a constant challenge. Victims of violent crime attorney here…you step in hard and then you’ve got find a way to step back when the work is done. Only those of us who climb into the dark abyss know the toll…

[@mommamina5593]

@@summawriters106 well said ❤️

[@heatherb2762]

I don't usually comment, but have to express that I have so much respect and appreciation for you witnessing the trial so we can have an unbiased account of what is happening. The lack of transparency will forever taint the verdict, no matter the outcome. You're helping to correct the judge's decision to try this case in the shadows. ❤😢 May there be justice for Abby and Libby and healing for their families.

[@lunaarcane5334]

I just spoke to my techie husband about the cell phone issue. He reminded me that after a drop on my phone, the solder connecting the receiver was damaged, and only by pressing on my phone in a certain location could I receive messages and calls. If Libby's phone was damaged, say as they slid down the hill or if the phone fell out of Libby's pocket and hit a rock while the assailant re-dressed Abby, then maybe that solder connection was loosened and just natural settling from Abby or the phone itself, reconnected the receiver and all the messages/calls downloaded before the phone shutdown. Since the first thing CSI does is put the phone into airplane mode, they may have missed the damaged connection.

[@AnaMaria-wn6jn]

Seems to me if I passed within 3 ft of a guy covered literally in blood & mud , his face would be forever imprinted upon my mind. Why she didn’t call it in to Police that VERY day, is beyond me.

[@alisamaxfield4596]

Her whole testimony was sketchy. And the time she saw him and the time of the murders doesn’t add up.

[@Moonlightdance58]

Thank you so very much for bringing this trial to us. They have made it very difficult for you all, having to stand in line in the wee hours of the AM in the free zone cold, no chance to get lunch, having to hand write every thing, etc. You are so appreciated !

[@gigifour7835]

Thanks!

[@missaries3960]

Thank you, Lauren. I’m a little confused about Sarah’s testimony about seeing bridge guy walking along side the road at approx 3:45-4pm and earlier testimony the Richard Allen’s vehicle was gone from the cps(?) parking lot by 2:30(?) I don’t remember exact timelines but it seems like there’s a discrepancy there

[@kimlarso]

Yes! Where’s this sighting compared to leaving out through the cemetery bc no one else reported seeing BG on the trail in this condition bc I believe FS guy passed him on trail …..the 2:50 ETD timing don’t make sense bc wasnt Chyenne & Cheryl there where girls last seen on bridge at 2:45? No way one guy accomplished all this in 15-20 min

[@kimberlypainter5169]

I have a gut feeling they have the wrong guy.

[@alisamaxfield4596]

@@kimberlypainter5169 I do too. 🤔

[@---sm6ve]

@@kimberlypainter5169same!!

[@StarlightSynchronicity]

@@kimberlypainter5169Yes, absolutely.

[@martifoddrill9587]

I work nights. Every night when I get off work your live upload is the first thing I watch. I really appreciate your updates! Again, thank you for all you do! ❤🙏

[@jeannemarie5908]

Every night when you get off work? .. uhmm, don’t you mean ‘morning’? Hahaha 😆 😝 Jk .. I worked nights for many years. I am playing with you. Sleep well!!

[@summawriters106]

@@jeannemarie5908Hey maybe they are on the same sleep schedule as trial attendees, I.e. none. 😊

[@alaineedington9733]

Watch when he's writing notes and see which hand he uses.....

[@UQCriminal]

This!!!

[@Kalikat-uk5ve]

The police know what hand he writes with already. Most people are right handed. If he was left handed, his lawyers would be all over that, because the cuts were from right to left, so the person who committed the crime was right handed. I'm just pointing out , if he was left handed the lawyers and the police, everyone, would say he's left handed, case closed.

[@dubyaL]

@@Kalikat-uk5vebut if he was behind the girls, only a lefty would cut right to left

[@bethkop12]

I'm curious to hear the analysis of this. I was thinking based off of Abby's wounds (on her left), that BG would be left handed...or that he stood behind her to make the wound. Maybe I misinterpreted that tho.... ​@@Kalikat-uk5ve

[@Iamsam-jl5fn]

@@Kalikat-uk5vethat doesn’t make any sense.

[@milenaliv7936]

Anyone else found Sarah’s testimony so bizarre! First of all, why did she drive around and around the area multiple times? Secondly, how come she had a good look of the man for 30 secs? Was she driving with a 1 mile per hour speed? There is no way it took her 30 secs. And thirdly, I highly doubt the transcribers got her testimony wrong 3 times. She obviously omitted “bloody”

[@moxievintage1390]

I found the whole testimony and set of circumstances before and after BEYOND bizarre, and I consider it highly suspicious.

[@thesimulation9651]

I don't think she came across as credible at all, She came across like someone had been preparing her for months and telling her she was going to be the star witness

[@chrystiem4060]

@milenaliv7936 maybe it was done to confuse her to say something else

[@doriangrey9702]

Seems a bit sus to me. The man didn't make eye contact with her as she drove by? No kidding. Then there is change in her story, from blood to mud and blood? And she admitted she has a fear/ phobia of murder with an overthinking issue. Then a zombie walk demonstration. Idk how credible she really is. I'm sticking to cold hard facts.

[@lauram7803]

She lived very near the bridge, so likely passes the area each time she is coming and going.

[@ecaryn.]

Sarah is not a believable witness. If I were on the jury, I would discount her testimony completely. She's not even intelligent enough to realize the defense attorney's cross gives her a more valid reason for not contacting the police right after the murders... She mentioned only mud in the first few interviews, that would be a valid excuse for not contacting the police the next day. She thought it was just a man with mud, nothing of interest to report until asked if she noticed anything. Fine. Then she could have said her statement changed later to reflect that he COULD have also had blood on him as well. To insist she said he was covered in blood, so much that it looked like a pig was slaughtered, from the very beginning and yet did not immediately report him as soon as the murders were publicized... no, just no. Not to mention her testimony that an hour of her interview was missing undermines the prosecution, for which she's a witness. Her bid for attention is shameful and embarrassing.

[@tinazaccagna1459]

That alone is why I hope you’re never on a jury you don’t discount something until you take it back into the jury room and all the jurors. Discuss it from their life experience never be on a jury please.

[@MrPaultopp]

@@tinazaccagna1459Don’t be rude

[@CuriousES]

At 18:30, Lauren said Sarah is “certain” the guy was wearing a hat (after all the effort she has researching hats), and right away when the prosecutor asked if she could have mistaken it for hair and she automatically said yes it could. From certain hat to yeah could be hair, but totally biased against any logic the defense showed her, she still would be objective enough to say that yeah it looks I am not clear.

[@ecaryn.]

That's incredibly naive and ridiculous to think that jurors are not forming opinions about witness credibility as trials progress. Sure, the discussion is open during deliberations but other's thoughts on witness' credibility shouldn't sway your opinion on the same. So yes, it is logical, and necessary, to discount someone's testimony whom you don't find to be truthful. And if you can be so easily swayed on your opinion of someone's truthfulness, then, please, YOU never serve on a jury.

[@PagingDrMakeUp]

NOT AT ALL! Thank you!!!!

[@sarahskulls114]

You're doing incredible. Thank you so much for sharing. What a heartbreaking day 🫶🏼

[@alisonfaure]

Thanks

[@Melissadacruzz]

You’re such a great reporter!!

[@freeglee3482]

Lauren...you really are incredible! I was trying to picture my own self taking notes in court and...well, I know I couldn't do what you are doing so thank you for working so hard! I am enthralled with this case and it is SO great to hear it all from you. Thank You. Be well.

[@Nielsplaysmusic]

She took the photo with snap chat and not her camera. That one is easy. Also for what it’s worth - when I have camped in remote places sometimes there will be a tiny amount of service that comes though and you will get a bunch of text messages all at once from earlier. It’s pretty simple.

[@AlbinoAxolotl]

Yes! I don’t understand how these things weren’t able to be explained on the stand.

[@Nielsplaysmusic]

@@AlbinoAxolotl it felt like a bunch of boomers up there trying to explain tech 🥴

[@kimberlylucas3094]

I was screaming this in my phone when she was discussing. Snaps only last 24 hours. Why kids use it so much. They keep up with their streaks.

[@HeidiFredFab]

Yes I was very confused about why this couldn’t be explained easily. Thought maybe I was misunderstanding what they meant when they said it wasn’t on Libby’s phone?!

[@WillBlindYouWithLight]

Yes. And as the earth rotates, you'll get better service in one spot that you don't have in another.

[@katelynsawicki2342]

I'm so glad I came across your page. Best reporting. My heart hurts for the whole family.

[@mamacitabrady2856]

To me large and beady eyes are opposite descriptions

[@hippiebits2071]

Wonder if he’s intentionally worked on holding an expression that makes him look as different from the sketch as possible. His eyes don’t appear remarkably unusual in many of the previous photos we’ve seen

[@MrPaultopp]

yes , that’s what I thought…. Lauren said his eyes were Beady …..Witness says large feminine eyes …. Well done Lauren , your doing a great job 👍

[@showerpwner]

They could be beady normally,but there is a thing where people can mistake eye color based on how big the pupils are at the time. Having just committed a crime like this id guess would ramp up the stress of the individual so they have all black eyes from the pupils enlarging. This could give off the large and feminine description mentioned.

[@mamacitabrady2856]

@@MrPaultopp witness said large feminine but Lauren described them as large and beady in her description f him in court room

[@oneamong5571]

Thank you so much! You're my go-to for info inside the court!!!!

[@ericalexander5890]

The first witness sounds like her memories have changed with the amount of information released during the investigation. Eyewitness testimony is extremely inaccurate, and can change based on exposure to subsequent info, and the witness may truly believe nothing about their account had changed. I believe she's a perfect example of that.

[@jenniferruth812]

Agreed. I wish people knew how unreliable eyewitness testimony is. But the 1st statement they give is probably the most accurate.

[@tracy5975]

If your talking about Sarah, she said an HOUR of her interview was missing. How convenient, these investigators have lost/got rid of soooo much stuff smh

[@jessicadavis2744]

I would like to hear any tapes they have with her saying whatever she said

[@mymymom2]

Exactly what l thought. Sort of like implanted memories. Perception are ever changing with time.l can see it in myself the older l get. Then there's the Mandala Effect to consider.

[@kimberleydownunder]

Thank you for being descriptive &honest .

[@catasrophieGrrl]

People who have never given evidence in a trial, esp one that's about your trauma, need to lay off witnesses and how they're coming across. Having prosecution or defence insinuate or come straight out and say you're lying is so awful and demoralizing. It's something that haunts you long after you leave the stand. I had my abuser's defence say it was my fault as an 11 yr old girl that HE went on to abuse other children, because although I told adults what he was doing 3 times, I should have kept telling until the adults stopped threatening me about 'what happens to naughty children who tell lies' and actually listened. Sarah is just a caring member of her community who chose to come forward to help these children, and then she spent the morning being called a liar. (Prosecution also does this to witnesses in cases too). You're going to get angry, sarcastic, defensive, and frustrated when they do this, and they hope you do to make you 'look bad' on the stand. She could have not come forward and saved herself the hassle... be grateful she spoke up!

[@chilo8187]

It’s a defense attorney’s job to grill witnesses especially when they make such serious claims. Is it nice? No. Should they victim blame? No. But their job is to defend their client, not to coddle witnesses, unfortunately, and some are a bit more aggressive than others 😅. I’m sorry that happened to you it sounds awful.

[@starflower703]

I am so sorry you had to go through that. It’s the reason I never took my abuser to court. I knew it would get blamed on me and I heard enough of that for a lifetime when I first found the courage to tell. It’s horrific as an innocent child to be groomed and targeted. Then to be told it’s your fault, people who have never experienced that simply will never understand how much it affects you and how hard it is to deal with it.

[@hippiebits2071]

I would really say the focus should be on appropriately preparing a potentially sensitive witness for the cross examination. A defense attorney has a responsibility to aggressively defend their client regardless of the circumstances.

[@jeanie8831]

❤

[@jeanie8831]

​I don't think it's possible to prepare a sensitive witness. Talking about it and doing it are two completely different things especially for a child. @@hippiebits2071

[@charlotte583]

Lauren…you are such a lovely lady, so kind…so very kind, it’s fabulous to see strong professional ladies that retain the humility and gratitude of their position and indeed life, you’ve not allowed this to harden your heart ❤️…as someone that works in this field Iv struggled greatly of late discussing the ‘box cutter’ with those that may not fully appreciate how this Vs biological material could be more than capable to cause such catastrophic injuries, the power used behind the weapon is often underestimated…your reporting is excellent, I would want my darlings to have someone like you if it was ever required…thank you for being that person xx

[@jenniferruth812]

1:04:01 When you said the girls shared a phone, that’s how close they were, that hit me really hard. God bless you for your massive efforts to get the truth out. It’s got to be so hard on you in every way. We can’t thank you enough.

[@CWebb-yr7vc]

Thank you for these important updates.

[@cherylhurst7093]

Thank you, Lauren for doing such a great job with all the details. What a rough day with the autopsy results.

[@AmandaSlayton-n1z]

The grandfather looks exactly like the sketch to this day 🧐 they just overlooked that? Lol

[@laurabucher6280]

Thank you for keeping us updated.

[@robinpowell4398]

I wonder if the ligature marks on Abby are from him binding her to a tree. Controlling someone with the head as opposed to the neck is a much more stable way to immobilize someone. It would also force someone to keep their head facing whatever the assailant wants them to watch. This is so sad. Thank you for covering it. I hope these young ladies get justice.

[@dianealarcon8304]

Maybe this is why she had Libby’s sweatshirt on. It was larger, and could be used to cover her eyes, while keeping control of her by using the long sleeves tied around a tree.

[@QuintessentialKeygirl]

Exactly what I was thinking. How horrible and sad. 😢

[@dianealarcon8304]

Maybe this is why Libby’s larger sweatshirt was on Abby. Used to cover her eyes, while it was tighten around her head and a tree?

[@robinpowell4398]

@@dianealarcon8304 I wonder if the string from the hoodie is missing? And if so, did it have the string/cord in the neck of the hoodie before they borrowed it that day?

[@aprilgomo]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@charlielynn3674]

Thank you Lauren for showing up and doing a good job taking notes and sharing with us.

[@EmberRN]

Thank you SO much for ALL your Delphi cov'g. Following since 2017 here & your unbiased cov'g has been a Godsend.🚔

[@ColleenD78]

Lauren.... amazing, simply awesome, my friend. Thank you for your dedication, we are all so grateful to you. Rest peacefully sweet Abby and Libby 💙💜💙💜

[@laramauss1968]

Danke!

[@karenmorente7589]

Seven months later before an official statement was garnered . That's ridiculous.

[@lostay526]

i love you and your description’s of the witness’s. Thank you for all your hard work and for your lives you made me feel like there were cameras in the court room. your work is spot on very much appreciated. thanks again from NY

[@MoonchasingMomma71]

I’m so grateful for you and your tenacity.. thank you!! This is extremely difficult but, I feel, so important to see with our eyes. Plz thank your artist friend too♥️ Sending you all healing energy, this hurts ones soul.

[@stephaniecarlson6689]

Thank you dear Lauren ❤. Steph at New South Wales, Australia 😢

[@annabelleroma2336]

Thank you so much for all your hard work and professionalism as you cover this case. I'm so angry and I can't imagine what the families are going through. 😢😢😢

[@kimberlypainter5169]

Omg im so so glad youre able to cover this from the court room!!! I admire you so much for your dedication.

[@kyrieeleison4640]

Great coverage Lauren! Thank you so much for doing this for us. I know this is not easy!

[@ColleenD78]

💜💙💜💙💜💙💜💙💜

[@stephaniecarlson6689]

Rhank you Lauren❤, from Steph at New South Wales, Australia. 💖🌺💝

[@mslillian4232]

Wow this case is a difficult one to follow the emotions I'm feeling over all of this information is difficult. I take my hat off to Lauren for all her reporting and the strength and courage it takes to do such a difficult job. Thank You so much.

[@-BestOfMe]

PLEASE READ LAUREN! 💕🫶🏼🤟🏼 Thank you so much for doing all of this "old school extra hard work" for us on top of having to do it at such a sad and emotional trial because I can tell that you as a person are very sympathetic and empathetic. I feel like there's times that I see you holding back in your voice and in your eyes tears were you just want to cry and talk to us while you're sobbing, but you hold yourself together like such a professional, that you are! 💐💐 Those flowers there are from Abby and Libby to you for all that you're doing for them! 💗

[@tomjones2348]

Thank you for your outstanding presentation. I know it had to be very difficult to see the photos there in court.

[@EzDoesIt1020]

Lauren how ru managing! You’re so dedicated and doing amazing! Thank you for all you do! Free therapeutic massages for life in Oregon for you!!

[@LadyCrimson25]

Thank you, Lauren💖 for your work. You’re the best to be given report and summary of what you have heard and seen, athe whole picture of what is going on in Court. Not a missing thing! And no one’s cutting you off of any reasoning as been seen to often before. Now you even tells us if something is going on and that is surprising to me. Loves it when telling us about Dr John is calling and even what he supposedly wants💖 It’s so amazing as you are talking with us as friends and want to know all just to giving us a detailed picture how it is You make me feel good 🙏 So close but far away at the same time. Painting the picture about your experience of what’s it means to be there. Your heart and mind is there in court as much as the price you all have to pay to get any chance to get in and having a sit. You even share your feeling about how to sit in this environment. Can keep on and on ……trying to give back a little piece to you Just to express .but my words are not enough , missing grammatical mistakes and so on. Wishes I learned much more than I did before in scholar education. ……unfortunately I wanted to see the world much more🫢 not very differently It’s through communication we are all learning much more than any scholar lesson could have

[@josiemarie22]

💜💜💙💙 On behalf of all of us, thank you for your videos and the dedication you’ve taken to this trial. I live not far from Delphi and have followed the case since they were reported missing. I remember holding my six month old daughter and sobbing for the girls’ families. I hope justice is served for this 7 year nightmare and for these young girls. Thank you. God bless. 💙💜

[@iAmMadeOfSoup]

I think at 2:14 Libby tried to unlock her phone to call for help or record more, but was unsuccessful. Touch ID on iPhone often did not work and you have to have you finger on there correctly. If she was stressed she wouldn’t have been able to unlock it.

[@pokemont9989]

I wonder if bridge guy saw her trying to call

[@Anna-xx1lv]

I’m sorry. I’m not comfortable with the “box cutter” I had heard that in one of Richard many “confessions” he mentioned a box cutter. Did the Dr. come up with this theory before or after that information was leaked? Please remember everyone…it’s been 7 years. I’m just having such a problem with information stated at the start or taken in notes when the crime happened, to now slight (some big) changes are happening….7 years later. I truly pray that these two beautiful girls will receive justice. The correct person or persons must be the ones held accountable for this horrific horrific crime.

[@anyoneanyone3515]

I agree. I‘m not buying a box cutter.

[@mariac.9727]

The Dr. came up with the box cutter right before the trial, obviously. Before that he ruled such a tool out.

[@CuriousES]

Agree, I hate how bad evidence is, I can’t believe that couldn’t find any stronger evidence in a town so small, they should have recognized the local guy that walks around in a weird pose. There has to be a lot of pressure for all witnesses to try to help the evidence fit better for conviction to try to fix the gaps in the investigation. The boxcutter new info worries me too much, it is not ok it was a lightbulb moment for this doctor 7 years later, after depositions with defense and not saying anything to them ASAP and I think it is super relevant, as you mentioned, if there might be reference of a boxcutter in a “confession”. It is a huge temptation for the witnesses to try to help strengthen evidence by now adding this weapon option out of the blue so the State can then link it to the details only the killer would know. I can’t believe the Defense is finding out in the middle of trial after the doctor had already told the prosecutors, I think in other more transparent trials there might have been a motion to dismiss or at least investigate.

[@DecolonialRhetoric]

Yeah, and a serrated cut/wound and a box cutter don’t match up.

[@veronicaboyd3696]

Hi Lauren, You are an incredible journalist!! Not only are you having to adhere to extremely difficult conditions with your schedule but all of the note taking you have to do and sketching involved. You are doing an awesome job Lauren….and the gruesome content you are reporting on has got to be difficult. THANK YOU from a grateful viewer/follower!!🙏💕🌸🌻👍🏻🤗

[@mammak4126]

Thank you, Lauren. How horrific! Thank you for your transparency and honesty. I am grateful for you sharing with us. Take care of yourself. It’s unbearable.

[@katfaerie]

Great summary, but one tiny issue with your description of eyes. Large eyes and beady eyes are opposites. Beady eyes are defined as "small, round, and glittering" in my dictionary. Like a literal bead.

[@SarahShepherd-yw3rb]

RA has big, bulgy eyes. Charles Manson has beady eyes.

[@LoveMYLabs]

I had the privilege of attending an autopsy preformed by Roland Kohr. I was an EMT student. He was very thorough.

[@marycaine8623]

Thanks so much Lauren for your commitment to this difficult but important task. We appreciate all you do ❤