DELTARUNE / Revised Multiversal Theory

[@oscarwillimott9296]

"Sans becoming a God is an extremely valid option." -Jaru 22/7/2022

[@neonotterpop2528]

LMAO

[@snowflake_18]

God-like Sans fangame makers are cheering right now

[@big_mike7950]

You misspelled 7/22/22

[@oscarwillimott9296]

@@big_mike7950 I'm from the land of colonisation, stolen cultures, and immortal figureheads people like to call: "Great Britain"

[@gabrieleduardo7304]

@@big_mike7950 He is not wrong on the way that he wrote, and neither are you. *Off-Topic trivia part: What I mean by this sentence is that both of you are correct, the "Data Format By Country" are different in some places, but they are basically at the same thing "aside some minor changes on mounts; days; time and years", in US if I am not mistaken you guys use the pattern: MM_DD_YYYY. Where I live, we use this format: DD_MM_YYYY. If you ask me, I don't know why we made several changes of this "Data format" and not made a universal one, but it exists plenty of variations of this Data format. *End of the off-topic trivia part.

[@l.o.x.2780]

The man gives so much attentions and efforts into his theories that he goes back and corrects/reworks the old ones when needed. How can you not love this channel?

[@astrothecoin28]

Mabye if you hate undertale/deltarune

[@l.o.x.2780]

@@astrothecoin28 Allright, you got a point

[@JaruJaruJ]

Aww, you're too kind. x)

[@l.o.x.2780]

@@JaruJaruJ Nope, just honest. You're my favourite Undertale/Deltarune youtuber. I've also watched your older videos, you're simply making good content. And I love it

[@FriskyGote]

Not only that, but he truthfully cherishes his community by giving invaluable feedback to artists and paying attention to their creations. This kind of communication with the community and appreciation for art is superb quality for a content creator and I really appreciate this attitude.

[@Panguinolucy]

I had a Deltarune thought about W.D. Gaster Gaster is generally thought to be the person who talks to us in the goner creation at the start of Deltarune, one thing that’s bothered me is that they speak in Wingdings so how come they are speaking normally in Deltarune? Well that’s fairly simple, Gaster was shattered across time and space, not split across it. So if Gaster was shattered that would imply unevenly or with differing segments. Think of breaking a mirror, it isn’t a whole bunch of identical shards, some are far larger. Gaster in Undertale was either only a small fraction or somet to do with their identity, perhaps a part of their hands. In Deltarune Gaster speaks fluently so perhaps the part shattered to Deltarune was the mouth And in the real world Gaster runs a survey (Deltarune) so perhaps a fragment of say his brain was sent here, Toby Fox helped Gaster speak to the public to help with this experiment for some reason. Other parts of Gaster fall into other realities and in varying sizes so say in the reality of dnd not enough landed for them to be able to manifest themselves Does that make sense?

[@neodintchly]

Well I don't think it really means he shattered across time and space in a literal sense, I think he's like a omnipresent god

[@JaruJaruJ]

That's a cool concept! A bit too meta for my taste, but cool nonetheless! x)

[@awesomeperson5150]

Interesting in universe explanation as to why Gaster doesn’t use Windings (Out of universe, the answer would be that you need to be able to read it)

[@duane6386]

@@neodintchly One of his followers says “I’m holding a piece of him right here”

[@neodintchly]

@@duane6386 oh right

[@atuliyengar9638]

the multiverse can best be described as: "For every world you didn't, there's a world you did." my guy you were right this entire time, the problem is, there's no difference between an alternate timeline or and alternate reality because alternate timelines are what make up the multiverse which form the alternate realities.

[@AshenDust_]

An alternate reality could have different laws of physics and stuff, while an alternate timeline couldn’t, as far as I know.

[@mochapoke3100]

I think jaru explained it in such a way where alternative realities can be fundamentally different. Like being made out of paint or laws of physics being wildly different, stuff that really couldn't happen just from a series of decisions. While he described timelines of having fundamentally the same rules but different things happening that could have happened ( e.g. different decisions) which is why a parallel reality makes the most sense because it is fundamentally the same while not branching off from just decisions, admittedly a lot more is possible in undertale that I imagine a lot of my examples would be bunk but we'll just say " something that is impossible in undertale may be possible in deltarune " whatever that may be Tbh it is somewhat a semantic difference but it does mean that deltarune could have things that are so different than undertale that that'd literally be impossible in undertale and vice versa but for the most part it's incredibly similar ( same rules of physics, culture is similar etc) Hell maybe universe hopping is possible in deltarune but not in undertale hence why the machine broke

[@JaruJaruJ]

It all just depends on the fiction you're looking at. Sometimes alternate timelines and alternate realities refer to the same thing. Sometimes they refer to completely different things. In Dragon Ball they are different things, for example.

[@omnitroph1501]

That's what I was going to say. My man's really out here arguing with himself over semantics.

[@atuliyengar9638]

@@omnitroph1501 yeah i argue with myself sometimes. i just hope that people knw that this is my opinion and it's okay to criticize every once in a while

[@aloncohen6066]

You actually work like a scientist. You always rely on evidence and data to arrive at the most logical conclusion, and can even recognize when you think you were wrong. Just an amazing channel, thank you so much for making videos.

[@JaruJaruJ]

My pleasure! Thank you for the kind words! :D

[@cbcgame2744]

Actually the "recognizing hes wrong" thing makes him better than a lot of scientists

[@portuguisianbralizian3293]

@@cbcgame2744 i think you are mixing up scientists with facebook moms

[@cbcgame2744]

@@portuguisianbralizian3293 well them too

[@lurkyb0i602]

Also, remember meeting Sans in deltarune in the first chapter and there was a dialogue option to say. “ hey sans, how’s it going?” And Sans reply’s “ good, but that’s weird considering I’ve never met you before” and then winks. He also says he’s from out of town. Could this sans also be from another timeline?

[@lurkyb0i602]

*universe

[@JaruJaruJ]

Unlikely. I think our instinct is to assume that's a clever meta line, because it is, but I don't think Sans is aware he's being meta. I think he's just poking fun at us for pretending to know who he is.

[@lurkyb0i602]

I think we can at least agree that he knows more than he’s letting on.

[@arkaring]

@@JaruJaruJ thing is that we aren't the ones who start the weird exchange, but him 'Hey, look who's walking around, how are ya, kid?' He directly acts overly familiar, and then brushes it off the moment you go along

[@JaruJaruJ]

@@arkaring You're not wrong, but he had already befriended Toriel, so it's reasonable to believe he'd know who Kris is without Kris knowing who he is.

[@OrangeNOrange]

Seeing Jaru obsess over fanart is really heartwarming

[@JaruJaruJ]

It's really good fanart. xD

[@tylerr2016]

I like the idea of Parallel Realities as a concept. It feels like a large scale evolution of the idea of Convergent Evolution in speculative zoology. For people who don't know Convergent Evolution is the idea that different species in similar groups could potentially fill the needs when some species die out. The most well known example is in After Man where in a future where animals like deers, wolves, and whales all die out other animals evolve to fill their needs. (In this case Rabbits filled the deers slot, weaseles and rats filled out the wolves, and penguins filled out the whales). I'm not a good explainer but I found it funny how similar these ideas were in concept. Amazing video!

[@TheFlyfly]

fun fact: convergent evolution is a real thing (or at the very least the idea is applicable to reality). each niche has a body plan that generally works for that niche, meaning that animals with similar ways of living tend to evolve to have similar body plans. it's why dolphins, for example, have similar bodies to sharks. despite dolphins being mammals

[@Gooberpotomous]

It's such a broad term for this, but SCIENCE! I love how scientific most of the UT/DR theorist community is, we get wonderful insight from these discussions which help us craft better and more solid theories. Ugh, I love this community

[@chrisgarrett6305]

Is this why species keep evolving into crabs?

[@tylerr2016]

@@chrisgarrett6305 yeah pretty much

[@Yuti640]

It’s nice to see you understanding the parts where you may have gone wrong, it’s a pivotal part of improving as a theorist or even just as a creator in general I know some people are sometimes pretty rude about where you went wrong (hell, I probably was at some points since I am in agreement that some things you say do seem like a logical leap) but I’m sure that they have good intentions! And if not, then well, as I said, it’s still good to understand where you go wrong!

[@JaruJaruJ]

Never let anyone say Jaru doesn't listen to feedback. xD

[@CenamTheGamer]

you know, hearing this theory made me think of the line of the goner kid from undertale and made me wonder how it might relate if this theory is correct: "Have you ever thought of a world where everything is exactly the same... Except you don't exist? Everything functions perfectly without you... Ha, ha... The thought terrifies me."

[@P.A.L.09]

My man’s sounds like a mom when they see their child make anything In a good way

[@gedar205]

Ever since chapter 2 was released I've always thought that the ending of Deltarune would be an apocalypse, something where everyone dies, and nothing matters. Otherwise, there's no way there's only one ending if you can choose to kill relevant characters. And I guess your reset theory could also work for that. HOWEVER, does that count as one ending? It doesn't really end there, it just goes back to the beginning. So, what if there is the reset "ending", and an actual ending where you defeat the Angel? Maybe one where you get all the shadow crystals and secret boss weapons? I only find one problem with this theory. When you die in chapter one, it says: "IT APPEARS YOU HAVE REACHED AN END.", so if there is only one ending, then it is always that one, where you are defeated and the world is covered in darkness? Anyways, I hope we can have the two endings thing, but who knows. Knowing Toby, even with only one ending he'll make something great.

[@kefkaexdeath]

personally, i believe the Pipis route is going to end with Noelle becoming the Angel and resetting the timeline, either to the start of deltarune or even an earlier point. the normal/"pacifist" route is the true singular actual Ending where the roaring is stopped or prevented or whatever, the true end of the story, while the Pipis route is basically a side story about something that happened in a previous loop, written to show how the Angel came into existence and provide more lore on the story's past and unique insight to characters that the main route for whatever reason couldn't adequately elaborate on. basically the same as Undertale's good and bad routes, except this time there really is technically only one "ending" because the other "ending" sends you back to the start to do something else this time. maybe if you play the normal route after finishing the Pipis route, there are new things in place to prevent you from doing a second Pipis?

[@birb2330]

Gaster will come and say the Demo of this Reality is over, and Sans will buy the Full version (Undertale) And he'll think it's crap, but Gaster won't let him go back to the old junk.

[@thatoneundertalefanatic]

Two differents paths that lead to the same ending.

[@royaloreo1275]

I hope Toby does something with this one ending that is satysfying. Like, the game having two endings but in one the world isn't destroyed so it's not the "end" for people living there would be an annoying technicality.

[@papermr.magolorguy7957]

As someone with a hyper-fixation on this game, your theories are very interesting to hear about and discuss! Keep up the good work! :D.

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thanks, will do!

[@ahmed4363]

I've been binging these videos and i realized im not subscribed yet, Here you go my friend. You deserve it

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you! :D

[@cheesydanishgaming3333]

Now I need some sort of “End Game” sorta collaboration where every Undertale/Deltarune AU comes together to battle the Angel

[@arsray7285]

12:30 if Doctor Who takes place after 1936 (idk never watched) that might be because the Hindenburg Zeppelin never crashed in there resulting in it becoming not an universe but an a alternative timeline

[@zinqi]

hey man, i just wanna say how much i appreciate your videos. i have been looking for someone that gives extremely blunt theories with lengthy explanations on deltarune for a while, and your theories itch that part of my brain that has been desperate for it! i keep your videos on as a podcast of sorts, they’re extremely entertaining, keep up the good work dude!

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy! :D

[@LocalLialec]

Love how you build up your theories then in the middle of the video add a bombshell revelation like "its oberson smog" or "its parallel realities". It gets me every time and im all here for it. Appreciate the content!

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoy my stuff. x)

[@wscamel226]

2:13 - why are we able to reshape reality to previous state, but we can't use that power to shape that reality to anything else? Being able to travel back in time with determination seems simplier that being able to reshape whole reality to our will but it can only be to our previous safe point and can't be anything else.

[@JaruJaruJ]

No idea. I'll ask Toby Fox next time I see him. xD

[@colonel_yuri]

Because you'd have tou actually build that world, for them, it's changing their entire reality and world. For us, it's making a game , or drawing a comic, or writing a fanfiction.

[@wscamel226]

@@colonel_yuri ummm I don't think I understand ...?

[@gamerdomain6618]

Scientifically speaking, it's not like travelling backwards in time is even possible in the first place. You would either need to travel at a negative speed and approach the speed of light or travel far, far faster than the speed of light, both of which are impossible for very different reasons. As for the point @Colonel_Yuri made, you would need to be able to construct whatever new thing you create from the ground up while taking the resource from what's already there and displacing it in a state of stasis would be much, much simpler and more scientifically possible according to modern conventions. It's a matter of not being able to create something from thin air and not knowing how to turn the things around you into something more useful.

[@Blandy8521]

@@wscamel226 basically if we had the ability to change the world then Toby Fox would need to account for any changes a player would want to do. While the fans can make whatever they want based on undertale.

[@krazyivan9733]

Hey jaru. It's me. You might remember me as a big critic of some of your theories. I gotta say, I don't disagree with a large amount of what you said in this video, in fact it made me rethink a theory of my own that I had been working on for upwards of 8 months. However, I do have one big criticism to put forward here: In your video here, you have stated that Undertale and Deltarune are basically "next door neighbors" in terms of being parallel universes, and I fully agree with that idea, however, this presents a problem; *if the two parallel universes are nextdoor neighbors, wouldnt there only be a single fundamental difference between them?* In your theories, you have stated that differences between UT and DR include enormous fundamental changes, such as the functioning of magic, monsters being made of matter instead of magic, and normal monsters possessing a much higher amount of determination. Now, I understand that you chalk most of these changes up to the "Angel" directly altering them, but you must understand that this doesnt make sense either, as the "Angel" on its own is not a character that exists independently, rather the Angel is merely a title given to the character who fulfills the Prophecy. For example, if one were to do a true pacifist run in Undertale, then the Angel would be Asriel, but they wouldn't gain said title of Angel until they had fulfilled the prophecy by freeing the monsters. The angel isn't a character that exists independently, which is why it doesn't make sense for the angel to be treated as some kind of all powerful entity from the get go. Anyway, getting back to my main point, it doesn't make sense to say that the two parallel realities are neighbors if so much is different between them. On the flipside, if you were to take a look at my own theory, it does in fact follow that there is only one fundamental difference between the two parallel realities, thereby making them "next door neighbors" to each other, and this fundamental difference between the two boils down to just *whether or not Chara exists,* with the other apparent differences (no magic/monsters made of matter/monster DT) all chalking up to Toby intentionally playing word games to confuse theorists, on top of other butterfly effect borne (ie, not fundamental differences) being caused by Chara not existing, for example, Asriel being alive is a direct result of Chara not existing. If you really believe this theory is crackpot PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE look up Goner Kid's dialogue in undertale. He literally talks about a different world in which the only difference between here and there is that a single person doesn't exist, and coupling this with other Goner dialogue about meeting "Suzy" soon, it becomes really interesting.

[@Paledoptera]

the amount of effort you put into your videos is INSANE man keep up the good work

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you! :D

[@dragoon3266]

I think your theory videos are some of the most well put together - or the greatest evidence of brainrot, depending on the mood of the day - but I do want to disagree on one point. While I love engaging in these diegetic explorations of how the lore fits together, I think it’s a bit rash to say that Toby making the connection between Undertale and Deltarune merely a superficial coincidence would be a mark against him. In fact, I personally consider that the most likely answer. Toby loves being one step ahead of the player, setting them up to feel like they’ve bested him only to be brought down by the realization that he anticipated them in everything they did. Perhaps there is some actual in universe explanation for the connection between these two games, but I don’t think Toby will ever reveal it. I’m sure he knows it, but it’s far more fun to lead players in circles, chasing an answer just always out of reach. That’s literally what W.D. Gaster is, a carrot on a stick. None of this is to imply that there isn’t value in these theories, I think there’s a lot in them. But I also think Toby’s meta narratives warrant a smidge of defending.

[@JaruJaruJ]

I think we just have different ideas about what kind of storyteller Toby is and what his endgame is. I'm confident whatever he writes will be brilliant, regardless of what it is. x)

[@thatoneundertalefanatic]

I think this thought that toby is a massive troll that doesn't reveal its secrets to see his fans suffer is a really weird image some created of him.Toby likes to troll us sometimes,but usually it's with little easter eggs,something that barely affects the story at all.At each chapter,we can see more of a connection to undertale,and saying this all is just big prank feels like you are just creating a illusion to not disappoint yourself to whatever happens.

[@starlite5154]

@@thatoneundertalefanatic whats wrong about doing that tho?

[@thatoneundertalefanatic]

@@starlite5154 i didn't say it's wrong

[@benjaminjenkins2384]

​@@starlite5154honestly it seems like more of an Andrew hussie than Toby Fox thing to do. Hussie fuckin hates his fan base and wants nothing more than to troll them, whereas Toby doesn't seem to.

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

its very wholesome you as a content creator actively out of your way showing artwork in your videos and praising it this will actively motivate those artists who look up to you and make them willing to go forward very kind

[@adairorsobis]

Probably, Determination cannot fully erase someone's memory because of them also having determination, yes, in lower quantities, but some at least, and thus, others determination "overpowers" some of ours, and make imposible to fully erase their memories. Doing a true reset, we use Asriel powers, 7 human souls, which is enough to completely erase their memory

[@JaruJaruJ]

Makes sense!

[@An_Account1]

It's always a good day when Jaru uploads. Anyway, I think this interpretation of the multiverse is the least flawed, but I still think Deltarune is an Alternate Timeline. I think the UT Timeline can't be reached by the Angel because a lot more Determination was used to split the timelines into UT and DR that what Flowey or the Angel have. Also, what Sans was saying could be remembering faint memories of the Angel.

[@gaigelarry]

Your FanArt is ALWAYS sick! :D Those artists are Killing it

[@JaruJaruJ]

Absolutely! They are legendary! :D

[@_chiabata]

Hi! I know that is A BIT too late for questions, BUT. I really like your theory and want it to be true, although some of facts do not add up. PLEASE could you share your thoughts on it? 1. Sans remembers us in Deltarune. When we talk to Sans in the end of the 1st chapter he obviously lets us know that he recognises us (probably not Kris, but the player). He winks and gives massive hints that he has already met us, and in the second chapter jokes about the fact that we know about his brother, although he did not tell us about him. How is it possible, if Deltarune is his original universe? Does that mean that he came FROM Undertale TO Deltarune instead and that is why he recognises us? I don't like this idea myself, because we know that our Undertale universe is also not Sans's original universe. Also during the battle with Sans he claims that he CANNOT RETURN TO WHERE HE CAME FROM and that he has already given up. Moreover, Toby said that the “time machine” in Sans’s secret room cannot be repaired. Thus, Sans simply could not have come FROM our Undertale TO our Deltarune, at least based on what we know about him. BUT it's clear that Sans had already met us BEFORE the events of our Deltarune. How did he know about the player if Deltarune is his original universe? If Deltarune Sans is a fake one, the one who created him (the angel for example) must know about us AND Undertale events to trick THE PLAYER into thinking that it's the same Sans from Undertale. But why? Why is it so important to fool us into believing that this Sans is OUR Sans? I'm so confused. Based on Sans's words during his battle and the fact tham the machine can not be repaired, we have to consider Undertale as the last stop for Sans. Then how does he recognise us in Deltarune? Could it really be just an easter egg for those who played undertale before? 2. Papirus is NOT the original Undertale Papirus (and actually knows a lot). Another thing is the INTERVIEW WITH PAPIRUS, where the last question for Papyrus was: "What was your life before you moved into Snowdin?", to which Papyrus replied "There was green grass...", and then Sans interrupted him and closed the question. If this QnA is canon, this means that Papyrus is also not from the original Undertale, because there is no green grass in Undertale (unless we attribute everything to some kind of magical grass or algae, but that would be completely stupid). Moreover, this means that Sans knows where Papyrus used to live and does not want to reveal this secret. Also the dialog during Papyrus's date reveals that Papyrus knows about cars, highways and sun. Either these things exist in his original universe or Sans told him about them. It gets more complicated in the end of the pacifist route, where Papyrus is confused over the sun in the sky. If he knows about it and wants to feel "wind in my hair, sun on my skin", it means that either Sans told him about the sun and that's all, OR that sun, cars and all existed in his home universe, so he understands the concept of the sun, but does not remember how it looks (HE FORGOR). Also Papyrus has a line of dialogue about Sans pranking us through time and space, so it seems that he knows a lot about Sans and his space-time stuff. So we know for a fact that Papyrus is aware of a lot of stuff, but Sans is very good at keeping an eye on what Papyrus says. 3.Regarding the fact that Papyrus disintegrates when dying. Sans also disintegrates, but before that he bleeds, and the idea that Papyrus is a magical monster and Sans is a physical one is based on this fact. However, Sans also disintegrates, we know this because of the sound effect. Moreover, it is Chara who delivers the final blow to Sans, so the blood that comes from their blow can be explained precisely by the fact that at the time of the battle with Papyrus, it was Frisk who delivered the final blow, and it was not so strong as to cause an open wound (on the other hand, his head falls off, which can also be considered an open wound, also Frisk oneshots Papyrus, so...). If Papyrus is truly a magical monster, that means he is not the original brother of our Sans. But considering that Papyrus lived in a place with green grass and Sans DOES NOT want us to know about it, it at least means he is not from the universe of our Undertail. If we stick to your theory, it would mean that Sans changed more than one universe, and in one of them he met our magical Papyrus, with whom he later moved to our Undertail and the time machine broke so they stuck there. This complicates things. 3. How are Sans, Papyrus and Gaster connected? There is also a question about gasterblasters which Sans (and probably Papyrus) know how to use. If it were the original Undertale Sans (and Papyrus) who worked with Undertale Gaster, and then got merged/shattered, and OUR Sans and Papyrus arrived in Undertale AFTER that incident, that would mean that they would not have a way to learn/get gasterblaster. (Unless they used Gasters blueprints, but i feel like it's a stretch). So either they used blueprints to get gasterblasters, they had them to begin with, or THEY were the ones who worked with Gaster but did not merged with him. In that case we don't know ANYTHING about the original ones at all. Interesting fact: the Windings font was created by merging 3 fonts together or something. So the idea of Gaster being an amalgamate of Gaster, Sans And Papyrus is really coming together. Or it's just a coincedence. So we are left with these facts: 1.Deltarune Sans has already met the player either in our Undertale, (which means that he managed to escape it after all), or he has met the player earlier in a different universe/time which we are yet to visit (so for him it has already happend, but for us it will happen in the future). So these hints are either showing that our Deltarune Sans IS our Undertale Sans, OR Toby is tricking us into thinking that way for some reason. 2. Both Undertale Sans and Papyrus are not from our Undertale universe. 3. Our Undertale Papyrus is from a universe with green grass, possibly sun, cars and highways. However he does not recognise the Sun when he sees it in the pacifist ending, which means that he understands the concept of the sun, but haven't seen it or does not remember how it looks. (This idea compliments the theme of forgetting and not forgetting in Undertale and Deltarune). 4. If Papyrus is a magical monster, that means Papyrus and Sans are from different universes (both of which are NOT our Undertale). That would mean that Sans changed more than one universe, and in one of them he met our magical Papyrus, with whom he later moved to our Undertail and the time machine broke so they stuck there. 5. That lives the question: what happend to the original Undertale Sans and Papirus? If they died/went missing during Gaster experiment before our Sans and Paps arrived to Undertale, then how did our Sans and Paps got their gasterblasters? 6. If our Sans and Paps did not have gasterblasters and are NOT related to Gaster on some family-level, that means that they came to Undertale, worked with Gaster, got gasterblasters from him and then Gaster fell into his creation and shattered alone, leaving Sans and Paps to live in Snowdin trying to fix the machine. So they DID NOT MERGE with Gaster. In that case we don't know ANYTHING about the original ones at all. 7. If Sans and Paps had gasterblasters as their own thing, that means they ARE related to Gaster on a family-level, and they had gasterblasters to begin with, that's why original Sans and Paps merged with Gaster into W.D. Gaster, and our Sans and Paps still have gasterblasters just because it's their own thing in general. Also that would mean that Deltarune Sans and Paps could be also heavily connected with Deltarune Gaster. I'm sorry for any misspelling, I'm not a native. I hope you will see my comment, cause I love your theories so much, it would be awesome to get your opinion on my thoughts!

[@trudyyy9395]

your amazing videos never fail to bring happiness to my day and you saved me at my lowest point so for that i can never thank you enough. it's clear how much effort and thought goes into each and every video you make. this video alone just proves why your channel is the best on the app. there's just something inherently special about the content. your morbid theories presented with such enthusiasm is so refreshing, and you are always so passionate about your work and theories and you aren't afraid to admit when things don't quite add up, PLUS you acknowledged the holes in the theory and patched them! kudos to you jaru for being the perfect theorist and creator 💜

[@JaruJaruJ]

You are overwhelmingly kind! Thank you very much for enjoying my content and saying such kind things. It's been an absolute pleasure. x)

[@akselmarazyan4613]

Man your undertale/deltarune theories are great! They're so detailed and well thought.

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you!

[@BoneDaddy69420]

8:55 i think that the bad handwriting line not only alludes to alphys' involvement but is also an on-the-nose pun to further hint at the wingdings' hand symbols.

[@Adam-we9ww]

most underrated youtuber

[@JaruJaruJ]

Too kind. x)

[@Galaxy-zb8fc]

This a comment of the fan art section it took a whole second watch through to notice the Obereon by MakeYourOwnDeals1997 had a hour glass as the hammer.

[@JaruJaruJ]

Right?! So good! xD

[@elaimaro122]

It's a little ironic how thorough analysis can do you in like this. I thought of UT and DR being parallel realities right away, just on intuitive level and didn't really question it. Mostly because the first time I ever heard of multiverse theory was in the context of quantum particle observation, the entire point was the the two realities could be practically identical, yet this one detail (the state of the particle) is the one difference. You made such elaborate effort into research and rationalization and yet it backfired. Doesn't undermine the work you've done however, it's still amazing content and it's cool you keep it a possibility to be wrong!

[@emma_stuart]

Oh my god. The AU sans fans are going nuts right now

[@phictionofgrandeur2387]

Parallel realities implies the existence of transversal realities. A transversal is a line that intersects with two or more parallel lines.

[@Sleeper_6875]

Quickly becoming my favourite channel on here, I get excited every time I see a new video and here that “hello”

[@JaruJaruJ]

Glad to hear! :D

[@JazzyWaffles]

I do want to point out that as far as we know from in-game mechanics and events, DT can only change timelines within one's own lifetime. You cannot, for example, load a timeline where Chara never died. Because Chara died long before Frisk was around to use DT. It thus stands to reason that, if Sans is from an alternate timeline that branched long before he was born, he wouldn't be able to use DT to go to that different timeline. It simply wouldn't be possible

[@nellymurkthewitch]

Jaru, it's really admirable of you that you accept the mistakes and flaws in your theories and try to rework them!

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you. x)

[@spookydood5500]

I absolutely love your theories, and I look forward to every single video. As always, this was a great one.

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you very much!

[@supercyclone8342]

10:15 "But to answer this question, we're going to have to talk about parallel universes"

[@mr.sandman098_6]

Always love to see a new Jaru theory release. They're always so insightful and well made. Keep up the good work!

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you! Glad you enjoy my content. x)

[@shmovinnn]

hi jaru ur videos are a lifesaver to me right now i’m hyperfixated on this stuff and your long form videos provide so much entertainment and distraction thank u so much

[@JaruJaruJ]

My pleasure! Thank you for watching. x)

[@esmepipkin6087]

This is like the first thing I've heard you say that actually makes sense

[@cory3348]

this channel never fails to amaze me! i love how in depth everything is, and i am so glad you’re able to revise your theories and make changes!

[@stagelights_]

when you mentioned parallel realities i half expected you to pull out the super mario 64 file select theme lmao "but first, we need to talk about parallel universes"

[@juiceecads3894]

glad to see you've revised the theory so it picks up on distinctions laid out in a few spots across the UT/DR multiverse- i remember watching the original video and feeling that something was Wrong with the conclusion that undertale and deltarune belong to the same universe, even if what sans says about timelines isn't what came to mind for me. if you're curious, susie's "everyone bleeds" line sort of tipped me off, though it really has more to do with the fact that i see monsters in deltarune as being much less literal than monsters in undertale as a means to further establish kris as a character. after all, if you aren't a monster, and even seeing pictures of other humans (creatures KNOWN for attachment and connection to each other) makes you viscerally uncomfortable, then what exactly does that make *you?* someone who has a motivation to be making dark worlds in order to be around darkners (who are distinctly Not Human Or Monster), that's who.

[@lilyawoodburn]

I've just about finished bingeing all your Deltarune theories, and after your Sans video I can't wait for you to make a Gaster video! Especially love that artwork at 18:31 too!

[@tornadix99]

Two things (sry i have only watched this video so idk how these things were adressed previously): - Sans's room easter egg when he does the legendary fart master joke. The door has a rainbow smoke below like those in chapter 1 used to travel in the dark world. Also papyrus says when he enters the room that sans is pranking frisk across time and space. Who else is affected by "across time and space"? Gaster!!! And gaster has entry 17 who clearly depicts how a dark world behaves when opened like the closed, making photon readings negative!! (darkening the screen). - *Also something shocking is about clam girl's dialogue.* She states that "suzy" might be the reason Frisk/Chara or the player is "here", but where is "here"? shortly before the release of deltarune clam girl turns into a goner (black and white lost gaster followers). It might be that the reason Frisk or the player is in undertale is because of the events in Deltarune. (next up my theories and questions) But if im up to speculation and theory crafting, maybe not the player themselves, but the SOUL. Mabe Kris's soul, since its stated that Chara died, their determination infused into flowey, but where is the soul of them if its supposed to stay like the others? If that kind of death meant that chara's soul was shatered, and frisk had fallen into the underground, why was Frisk chosen as a vessel? what if the vessel making game in deltarune made Frisk in the first place? *or maybe if deltarune has different rules, if its a human soul from deltarune, it means it can shatter?* After all, if deltarune monsters bleed, who is to say that humans have monster traits and shatters when the human dies. Or maybe, undertale itself is a dark world? And toby is pranking us because after all, undertale has tale in a name, so maybe its a dark world opened in a story book about the deltarune. Would also make sense because save and loading is aviable only in dark worlds on deltarune. I can say gaster had a hand in this save load feature, and maybe the player too, since Deltarune appears to be made because gaster invited the player in. Whatever he did, maybe gaster from undertale did the experiment to save and load, but as a monster he is weak in determination so he scattered like that, and because save and load is a videogame term, it called in a player to fill that power or something. IDk. im really confused, and there is a lack of answers.

[@emmydraheim2759]

I love this man’s videos he is honestly probably the only reason I have a KZbin account anymore, another great video, as always

[@JaruJaruJ]

That's really flattering! Thank you! :D

[@pineappleudh6561]

7:09 Minor problem, sans likely couldn't steal one of the existing souls from Asgore. Flowey makes it very clear that he could never manage it himself even with his godlike powers. The only reason flowey gets them is because asgore reveals the souls when the fight starts. As for killing a human, he probably could. However we are likely the first human to show up after sans did, and since we can't permanently die...yeah that would make obtaining our soul rather difficult.

[@angelvaldes8421]

in short, omega flowey would never happened if Asgore didn't flexed the souls xd

[@Blazer-cs3hz]

@@angelvaldes8421 Duuude I Never thought of that 😂 underrated comment

[@JaruJaruJ]

I disagree, actually. Sans is a friend of Alphys, and Asgore let Alphys borrow the human souls for her experiments. He could probably get them from Asgore through her. Although honestly it doesn't matter. The bottom line is that Sans concluded that getting human souls wouldn't help him, so regardless of whether he could acquire any human souls or not, he wouldn't bother.

[@thatoneundertalefanatic]

@@JaruJaruJ is sans a friend of alphys?It seems he just knows her,and that's a different thing.'sides,even if it was,asgore wouldn't give the souls he killed to get to a friend of a friend. *Hey,king asgore,can you give me those souls for a reason i can't specify? *i'm sorry,but i am afraid i cannot.I killed innocent children to get these,if something happened to them,i would never forgive myself. *Uh...I'm a friend of alphys. *Oh,that explains it!Now i'll give the souls that i took centuries to collect to a stranger,because that surely is a good idea! 'Sides,that would imply sans would be able to hold the power of the souls,and since monsters have a hard time to even handle small amounts of determination,i find that quite unlikely.

[@norbivans9939]

I always enjoy your theories, your voice is so nice to listen to. I also love how much you appreciate the fan arts and the community. You're definitely one of the best Undertale/Deltarune content creators. Keep up the great work and as always stay determined!

[@JaruJaruJ]

Will do! Thank you for the very kind words and support! :D

[@norbivans9939]

@@JaruJaruJ No problem, I'm looking forward to your future videos.

[@nightwatch3889]

Ive actually been saving your recent videos for later because my watch later playlist has like 50 unfinished videos that I need to get done lmao. No matter how hard I binge I can't get rid of them all. Anyway hope you understand.

[@JaruJaruJ]

No worries. I appreciate your support regardless. x)

[@skydragonslayer9820]

Excellent, another theory video. I'll put my reading on pause for now to watch the video.

[@JaruJaruJ]

Hope you enjoy! :D

[@nolank5267]

11:31 “To answer that… We have to talk “Parallel Universes”

[@sophiesticated06]

the james webb telescope picture being the thumbnail makes me happy

[@krisspychissp]

when jaru notfications come I stop everything and come

[@MBoy2000_]

I really wish youtube would notify me when these are posted, hit the bell and still doesn't do anything, great videos man, love your theories

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you! And yeah, KZbin's a little inconsistent with that. I try to make posts to notify folks to make up for it. x)

[@aligaming7575]

bruh i already thought that video was perfect! jaru at it again. being an absolute CHAD of a human being

[@JaruJaruJ]

You're far too kind. x)

[@astrothecoin28]

23:37 did anyone notice the little subscribe thing in the corner

[@JaruJaruJ]

Bruh, I forget I made that. I think that's been there for a decade. xD

[@kramkrum3672]

Fantastic video! It's so nice having a big Deltarune theorist say, "hey, Toby DID say that these are separate worlds, but maybe there's a point to that beyond just characters." So many people seem to disregard the thought that there's any connection to Undertale at all story-wise. "Gaster isn't involved" they say, in a game full of Gaster easter eggs. "The story of Undertale is done, it won't be expanded upon here" they say, when Toby said years ago on his Kickstarter that his next project would expand the world of Undertale and it's characters. It legitimately makes my head hurt. Toby is obviously lowering expectations for a greater impact, but it blows my mind that people don't even consider the connections. Gaster literally promotes the chapter releases on Twitter and people shrug it off. Ugh. Weird to me how part of the community finds things like shipping Berdly and Spamton more interesting than the speculation and deep lore. These are insanely well-written games, and are way more than just goofy, Earthbound-inspired comedies. Anyway. Again, fantastic video, always a treat to see a new upload from you.

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you! And I couldn't agree more. x)

[@An_Account1]

I completely agree. These games are clearly connected somehow, and it annoys me when fans try to make them two completely different things. The basis for this seems to be Toby Fox saying that he was happy that Deltarune was being seen as it's own separate thing from Undertale. I do think fans are misreading this line because what Toby meant by "separate thing" was that they were different timelines/realities. Also, Toby literally said somewhere, I think on Deltarune's website, that while the worlds are different, there could still be connections.

[@starlite5154]

@@An_Account1 i just dont want deltarune to be an answer to undertale,i want it to have its own goals and stakes

[@EP1CxEMAN08]

The fact that he's not saying "Parallel Universes" means he's aware of the Super Mario 64 jokes that would follow.

[@angelvaldes8421]

we could say he was... somewhat ahead of us

[@JaruJaruJ]

Honeslty? It was an accident. xD

[@lurkyb0i602]

So one thing about your theory that the monsters in deltarune have physical bodies. When your making your vessel at the beginning of the game, you have the option to chose its blood type. You can choose A, AB, C and, D. The thing is the blood types C and D don’t actually exist. Why wouldn’t they know this if they themselves have blood? Edit: now that i think about it, I can safely say that gaster is the one making the vessel. My reasoning for this comes from multiple pieces of evidence. 1) many people have theorized that the deltarune universe is an experiment created by gaster. This is proven by entry 17. Darker yet darker, photon readings negative ( witch means he would looking at something made of pure darkness like a black hole (or a dark fountain perhaps) and this next experiment will be very, very interesting ( something that has been mentioned many times regarding deltarune by Toby Fox) 2) one of the gaster followers said he fell into his own creation. Maybe he doesn’t mean the magma core but the deltarune universe. 3) the reason the creator of the vessel would not be familiar with blood is because he has a magical body and is from a universe were he has no experience with blood. However there’s one major hole with this theory: gaster has been shattered across time and space. But I think I have one thing to explain this, the shadow crystals. The shattered remains of gaster. Shards of forbidden knowledge that drive people crazy. Knowledge like alternate universe and timelines or that their reality is just a game. Maybe our goal is to collect them all to reassemble gaster. What do you all think?

[@wscamel226]

YES yes!!! Another video!!!! Thank you!!!!!

[@JaruJaruJ]

My pleasure! Hope you enjoy! :D

[@pundromeda]

I really love your videos! Always an exciting day when a new one gets dropped. I know you probably have lots that you're working on, and this would take a long time to do, but I'd love to see a chapter 2 lore playthrough from you! I really enjoyed your chapter 1.

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thanks! And I'll definitely do a Chapter 2 Lore Playthrough. x)

[@geekygamer3954]

Some of the riverman's dialogue from undertale directly foreshadows deltarune. There's a ton of lines about water, and one about "the song that comes from the sea". I haven't done enough research on it to say what every line of dialogue means, but could you do a future video about it?

[@JaruJaruJ]

I'll see if I can work them in somewhere. x)

[@devlinmcguire7543]

@@JaruJaruJ I actually like this one. It might be a shorter video, unless it allows for tons of theorizing and stretches out. The river person is one of the most mysterious characters in either game. I won't say THE, but easily pretty high up there.

[@rowaned14]

I realized something that I'm not sure if anyone else has, and it lines up with the sans theory. Notice how UNDERTALE's title screen font is all caps while inversely deltarune's is not capital, just like how papyrus speaks in all caps while sans doesn't use capitalization. It could be a coincidence, but it could mean something big if we meet papyrus in a later chapter of deltarune and he either does or doesn't follow his undertale capitalization pattern

[@R0-83-RT]

Got to say a little proud of myself since I did mention the idea of parellels universes in your original timeline video.

[@charziz6693]

There's a much simpler explanation to Sans being trapped in UNDERTALE, he just has the least determination out of anyone.

[@al_eggs]

He is the weakest monster - but as said, he could still absorb a soul

[@Gokorion]

Since i started watching your theories they never really clicked with me as there can be infinite explanations to various problems and yours didnt quite satisfy me but you always interested me with your ideas and showed a different approach. I appreciate it that you have a flexable mindset and not just stick to an idea ignoring disproval or alternate explanations. Great video keep up the work.

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you. x)

[@Gooberpotomous]

Has it really been that long since the first theory video? I appreciate the scientific method that went into this. So many people are afraid to change their minds when faced with "new" information but it's silly, I feel, to be so rigid. Thank you for being a great role model for changing one's mind

[@JaruJaruJ]

Eyy, you're far too kind! I'm glad I can provide content worth such high praise. x)

[@articleviathan434]

gotta love the Jaru Cinematic Universe

[@TheSkyGuy77]

What if the Roaring is when parallel realities crash together?

[@JaruJaruJ]

That would be awesome! I've actually wondered if that might be the case!

[@tehdudester]

Long day with friends, get home late at night, get a good buzz going, see fresh new Jaru video.... This is the perfect way to enjoy the rest of the night. Thank you Jaru.

[@JaruJaruJ]

My pleasure! x)

[@bitterman213]

It is impossible to tell and as you said it doesn't matter. Imagine that Deltarune takes place in an alternate Undertale timeline where a monster gained 8 human souls and became a god. They used their power to reshape their universe into Deltarune, removing magic from humans and monsters by restricting it to the dark world and what-not. Now compare that to a Deltarune universe that was always the way it is in game (separated into light and dark, history, etc). The two would still be running "in parallel". Theres no difference. In both scenarios it would have been possible for sans to use gaster tech to travel from Deltarune to Undertale then get stuck there due to the machine breaking. Saving and loading only effects one's current reality, so that is consistent too.

[@ralsei3157]

Great video as always, never could've guessed the answers were infront of us lol

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you!

[@nephalemnova]

I just wanted to say thank you for all of your time and effort in every single one of your videos. This channel is always entertaining, interesting and calming to watch. I appreciate how you showcase people's fan art as well, it really shows how much you care about this community and your viewers. Keep doing what you're doing!! :D

[@JaruJaruJ]

My pleasure! Y'all have made this a truly wonderful experience, and I would not be here without you guys. Thank you for the kindness and support! :D

[@KyleLyre13]

Couple things. A: Your videos are stellar as always. Love your content, as I feel like you're one of the best at finding details in every corner. B: this interpretation also aligns with something Toby Fox stated during the interview after Chapter one. "All the characters from Undertale are exactly the way you left them." They're the same because the Deltarune cast are literally different individuals. C: your telling of events also, ironically, fit the old "Sans is Ness" theory in a thematic way, since what Sans would have done is literally what Ness did. Just found that interesting.

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you very much. x)

[@jmbrignon2712]

Honestly, after I watched your original theory video, I immediately came to the conclusion that Undertale and Deltarune were set in parallel universes, and watched the rest of your theory videos with this in mind. I was huge Doctor Who fan around the ninth-tenth Doctors era, so that's probably why I instantly thought of parallel universes. To be fair, whether the two games are set in alternate timelines or parallel realities doesn't make any real difference, since their consequences are functionally similar, so don't feel bad. You still made a lot of really good points, and parallel realities are a kind of in between of the other two possibilities, so you were kinda right anyway. It reminds me of your Shadow Crystal video, where your theory that Deltarune is stuck in a time loop meant that you had the benefits of both the "show the past" and "show the future" theories. The real answer was both and neither!

[@JaruJaruJ]

Precisely! That was exactly what I thought. x)

[@SonicMaster519]

When Jaru uploads, you know it is going to be a good day. Love your theories man, keep up the great work!

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you!

[@sagacious03]

Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

[@JaruJaruJ]

My pleasure! Thanks for the comment! x)

[@bills-beard]

Thanks for being willing to come out here and be like "yknow what, i was wrong, lets rethink this". You dont see that kinda attitude much on the internet. Mad respect

[@JaruJaruJ]

My pleasure! Finding the truth is more important to me than looking smart. xD

[@decentlystraight6477]

Jaru, in your knight video you told us some people were calling you cringey back en the ralsei video. And honestly, I disagree SO MUCH from these people. It felt super natural bc the video had been building up to this, we all knew something REAL BIG was coming, and we were not disappointed. The part where you got all excited was the best part to me. I enjoyed it much more than the rest of the video. So if you feel like getting dramatic like that again, go for it! Its really endearing. I hope you keep making these videos, theyre truly amazing. Thanks for all your hard work!!

[@JaruJaruJ]

That's extremely kind of you to say! Seeing such encouragement from y'all has been really touching, so you have my thanks. Your viewership and support mean the world to me, and I hope I can continue to entertain. x)

[@decentlystraight6477]

@@JaruJaruJ oh you bet. Im COMPLETELY in love with tour whacky theories. Im excited to see what you have in store for us! I hope youre doing okay

[@JaruJaruJ]

@@decentlystraight6477 I'm doing very well, thank you. x)

[@realfallengang]

I think we are gonna give this man so much love with our fanart, Jaru's gonna become the deltarune explosion effect

[@JaruJaruJ]

Gonna have a theory video that's five hours long and 89% fan-art. xD

[@realfallengang]

@@JaruJaruJ lmao we shall see 😂

[@Raft88]

sans really destroys your theorys right??!! good work btw!!!!! Edit (after watching your vid): the anomaly that sans talks about, the line that ruins your theroy, I think the anomaly might be the player... sorry if you've already addressed this! Quite new to your channel!

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thanks! And yeah, some folks think Sans is talking about the player, but since there's no evidence of anyone aside from Flowey knowing about the player, and since the player can reach Sans without altering the timeline once, I'm inclined to think what he's detecting is Flowey. x)

[@zixvirzjghamn737]

" there will be major spoilers for both deltarune and undertale, so please play them both before watching this" *speedrunning noises* "but first, we have to talk about parallel realities"

[@infinitesimalphilip1470]

One thing that may also be possible is that timeline manipulation only allows for the modification of existing timelines, rather than a return for one’s home timeline.

[@VaporeonMeow]

I almost NEVER comment, but today I wanted to comment just for the algorithm. There aren't many KZbinrs like you. Keep up the good work.

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thank you! Your support is greatly appreciated. x)

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

I've always thought "alternate universe" because a key twist in Undertale's narrative is learning that the year is not 201X, but rather 100 to thousands of years in the future. Meanwhile, Deltarune has the far future (main storyline) characters like Alphys, Undyne, Sans, etc. AS WELL AS 201X era characters like Asgore, Asriel, Toriel, and Rudy. Remember Rudy is long dead by the time of Undertale, and Asgore and Toriel only haven't aged because they are Boss Monsters. The only way for those characters to exist at the same time is for it to be alternate universe. Edit: Hey!!! Your parallel universe thing uses my exact reasoning for disagreeing with your last theory on this. Spider-Man and Doctor Who are great examples of it.

[@JaruJaruJ]

Technically we don't really know when Rudy dies in UT, but aside from that, I mostly agree with your sentiment. x)

[@luizzeroxis]

Except that, even with a lot of determination, you can't go back further than when you obtain the power. Frisk can't go back before you fall into the underground, Flowey can't go back before he becomes of a flower. So Sans literally wouldn't be able to go back to the branching point of the two games. He wouldn't even be alive back then. The machine is able to go laterally to another timeline, which is not something determination can do, or at least we don't know if it can do.

[@JaruJaruJ]

Yeah, but Sans doesn't necessarily want to go back to the EXACT moment he left (or before the moment he left). He just wants to get back there AT ALL, and if he's from an Alternate Timeline, then Determination SHOULD be able to do that.

[@duckman9327]

Alrighty, so, I kinda predicted alphys being in this episode from the recent comments I made, which is pretty cool. But anyways, great video as always dude!! Something that I find really impressive is you can make a theory on these games that sound crackpot at first, then make me fully believe them by the end of the video, lmao. Keep up the good work man!

[@JaruJaruJ]

Thanks! Glad I can be convincing. xD

[@flawlessgaming1871]

So excited for chapters three, four, and five. It's going to have so much text to read...I can't wait!

[@jackatk]

Jaru, I love all the attention and detail you put into your videos. That being said, I don't understand how "parallel realities" is an explanation for the similarities between the two universes. What's the difference between a parallel reality and and alternate universe? And _why_ are they parallel? Could you please explain? Thank u :]

[@JaruJaruJ]

Parallel Realities aren't just random alternate universes. Alternate universes can be so drastically different that they have nothing in common. It would be like crossing from the UNDERTALE universe to the Lord of the Rings universe. They have nothing in common. By contrast, with parallel worlds, the two universes have near identical origins, and as a result they follow near identical paths. Their physics are the same, their living creatures are the same, and their histories are very nearly the same. As a result, they end up being very similar. They have SOME differences due to small variations, but overall, they share a very similar structure. Hope that helps. x)

[@gristen]

if you look into stuff about quantum physics theres a theory that since the universe is hypothetically infinite, there's a chance that somewhere out there's a world out there that coincidentally happens to be an exact carbon copy of our own. this is what we would call a parallel world because both of their histories would run exactly parallel to each other. in fiction a parallel world is usually one that's almost exactly the same as the first one, but there are details that differentiate the two to create an sense of familiarity for the audience but also a slight discomfort as well. a world you feel that you know, but simultaneously dont know at all. the reason why they add the little differences is because it would make a very boring narrative if the world was exactly parallel. we and the characters wouldnt even know it was actually a parallel world if they did it like that. an alternate reality is usually described as one that has absolutely no connection to another one so it wouldnt appear similar at all. ultimately tho this is all just an argument about semantics so it doesnt really make a huge difference what you choose to call it.

[@Kardor]

I was literally just watching your another video. Keep up the good job, mate!

[@JaruJaruJ]

I will! Thanks for watching! :D

[@alzhanvoid]

And here I am, the final Deltarune video. I'm... caught up, huh. Interesting theory, I don't have much of an opinion of this one, since this is just a new revision. I'm impressed you had the courage to admit your mistakes and rework a whole theory, but other than that all I can say is I'm looking forward to that Spamton video! Hopefully all of my comments weren't a drag or anything, I think I left atleast one comment on every single video lol

[@andr_meda]

When he said "unfortunately the answer is yes" abt Alphys mentioning research abt alternate universes i got hella excited

[@JaruJaruJ]

xD

[@wscamel226]

2:25 - what if the power of erasing memories belongs to monster's magic but it's too weak to work on it's own so the monster neeed a lot of determination to strengthen this power?

[@JaruJaruJ]

Well, we're not a monster in either game, yet we erase people's memories every time we load a Save File, so I don't think that quite adds up.

[@YouMayKnowMeAsNate]

Im glad you got away from thinking it was an alternate timeline. You having that assumption definitely made other theories based on it less believable for me like you were explaining around 15:30. I love how you put so much effort in your videos and are willing to consider all the evidence for all the options but that part always got in the way a bit I always disagreed with your logic that you used to get there: “if these are completely separate, how can they end up so similar?” That’s an example of the prosecutor’s fallacy: when switching the given and the question changes the answer a lot. Lemme use another example to explain it better. If I told you a 4-legged animal was behind a curtain and asked you what the probability was that it was a dog, you’d probably say it wasn’t likely. Conversely, if I said a dog was behind a curtain and asked you how likely it was that it had 4 legs, you’d say very likely. Credit to Zach Star for that explanation In the video, you phrased the question as “assuming these are different universes, what’s the probability that they have so many similarities” but it should have been “knowing they have a lot of the same characters, how likely is it that it’s a different universe with its own rules”.

[@Blue-g8u]

"Hello... my name is Jaru" What a good noise the noise of a new theory

[@JaruJaruJ]

x)

[@Blue-g8u]

@@JaruJaruJ holy crap for the knights sake did a youtuber i like ACTUALLY REPLY TO MY COMMENT?

[@JaruJaruJ]

Yes. x)

[@meliasnahtony2951]

All I'm hearing is "To answer that, we need to talk about parallel universes"

[@GuidingLightAngel]

This theory sparked an idea, given how similar DR and UT are, yet remaining parallel worlds that are very similar, what if they had the same origin point? Originally a singular world split into two by an outside force. In canon, it could possibly be that the Origin World originally had monsters with magic and physical forms, as well as having humans and monsters coexisting in peace after a war, perhaps brought about by a kind human, the split between worlds brought about by an outside force not only would prevent the timeline argument, because it being an outside force, it would cause the entire fabric of that world to break into two. The split brought about Undertale and Deltarune, both worlds are very similar, except one had monsters with magic and the war, and the other has none. After deltarune, could we possibly be exploring that original world, a world where the ending always leads in destruction? I know this is absolutely out there and outlandish but it would be cool if it were the case. Also, I wanted to add on my comment on the recent Sans video, a bit of evidence for the Angel's time loop theory, in the first ever version of deltarune, the prophecy didn't exist, the prophecy is a consequence of the angel's time loop, told to Ralsei by either DR Gaster or UT Gaster, most likely UT Gaster because he can't be affected by resets, and he can also be in multiple places at once. Big big if, if we assume that this entire thought process is correct, then the image of UT Gaster sugar coating what happened in the first ever confrontation with the angel and telling that to Ralsei as a prophecy is absolutely hilarious to me.