DELTARUNE: Salt Route (Full Concept)

[@Stanfordscienceman]

The idea of spamton asking for your spare key and literally taking your SPARE key and removing the ability to spare people is hilarious to me

[@grape_protogen]

It's like Spamton is some kinda fae gremlin

[@calliestudios]

It is quite smart tbh

[@Angelik_]

@@calliestudios sorry to interrupt but lmao yes,I agree

[@wildfire9280]

@@grape_protogen Spamton is the other mother from Coraline!?!? 😱😱😱😱😱

[@qua_xor3348]

Well that's one way to not get your run messed up

[@meanwhilewhile]

* You and Spamton Take a Picture. * You stiffly cast an arm around him. His smile grew wide. * Neither exchanges were genuine.

[@BoogerLikesClowns]

CRIED

[@arkhaic1792]

sums up this entire run

[@life-nv1ob]

WEEPS💀

[@yuarentlucky]

SOBS 😭

[@theuncertifieditemasylum]

WAILED 😔

[@ricedanan]

1:08:56 Him realizing that he actually took the Spare Button must of been one hell of a realization when just a few minutes ago he was begging Kris to spare the Addison not knowing it was literally impossible for them to spare him.

[@geblordofchaos2965]

Yeah, i guess that was a "heartbreaker"

[@Katieanimatesrandombs]

@@geblordofchaos2965 💀💀💀

[@Barakon]

He wanted him to run away, but he didn’t.

[@dymaz_azure]

He just went like: What have i done?

[@cesarv7685]

"Please, [SPARE] him" Spare him? Ha, funny thing old friend. Because of you, *I no longer know him* *(Spamton used HEARTBREAKER)*

[@danhatter6823]

Oh my god the detail of Roulx speaking in both accents for all his lines since Ralsei isn’t there to tell him off is such amazing attention to detail.

[@togamisbo0k_.]

fr

[@OmegaCrutch]

For real fr. Only good reason to do Salt Route to see the double accent Roulxs

[@dylanzlol7293]

​@@OmegaCrutch i would do the salt route to get more spamtong

[@aaaaaaaaaaa.a]

​@@dylanzlol7293do you want to torture him..

[@Breached18]

​@@aaaaaaaaaaa.a TORTURE ME! SHOOT ME! [Kentucky Fried ] ME! I JUsT Ne3d MY [Key Item]!

[@thealliedpowers]

1:03:22 an egg appears in the inventory momentarily and then vanishes, this thing is filled with really subtle details that a lot of people seem to be overlooking

[@JQR.]

Thanks for noticing, I think you might be the first to mention that actually!

[@thealliedpowers]

@@JQR. artists' eyes so other artists' effort

[@secretivesircu]

​@@JQR.also the salt disappeared

[@PaveltheBugFan]

people eat eggs with salt in easter to not lie

[@DeltaBlazin]

No egg for murderers.

[@boogaloobender3462]

I honestly love the fact this was rendered on a potato. It shows you don't need new devices to deliver a substantial experience, and it makes me feel better about making videos on my own PC, which is over 12 years old at this point.

[@A_Flied_Fly]

It added charm. A lot of charm. All it was missing was Unregistered Hypercam 2.

[@AnnieC.1993]

It actually somewhat adds to it in another way too. Some glitches were probably from the craptop, but since they only really start going when you recruit Mr. [Wild Prizes!], which fits really well. Don't get why it's available in higher resolutions than that of my actually good laptop if it's from a craptop, though.

[@ChickenNugget00]

Was the sound glitching not my device or headphones?

[@ekaterinaobraztsova4631]

Yea ​@@ChickenNugget00

[@macm5542]

I thought it was made for effect or something

[@cookiecutter5176]

I feel like front-facing Spamton is gonna become a meme pretty soon

[@JQR.]

It felt cursed even as I was making it

[@speedybp5950]

Spamton knows what you did

[@Waffle_enjoyer]

Terrarian disagrees

[@zanman3552]

Great argument, but sadly *ip address*

[@pixelcat29]

Where please give timestamp

[@turingtestingmypatience]

i actually really like how this interpretation goes. spamton never drops his personality the entire time, no matter what - he's always on the border between positive and serious, never breaking character. the route is instead formed around him, and instead of breaking his tone to fit the idea, he's given no choice in the matter. he's not woobified much here, he's the same old spam.

[@perhapsclem872]

And all of this originated from someone on the internet saying that they had a dream where they brought Spamton [Around Town] to help him find his 'keys' while collecting 'salt'. god i love the deltarune community.

[@meymeyman3127]

ah yes, hello clem.

[@maxmelee1145]

Also Delta traveler

[@ashleycd6487]

Just like Prunsel

[@insertnamehere9835]

Wait really!? Is that the inspiration?

[@Ilovebuzzsaws]

Din't deltarune itself also get inspired by a dream Toby had?

[@mobileterrarian3653]

I just got to thinking... There were multiple prompts to back out of the Salt Route, right? Well, I was thinking of what would happen if you don't give Spamton your SPARE key. He'd be convinced that he doesn't need a spare key, and it would branch into the Salesman Route, where you can still spare enemies, ask around on what happened to his keys, and help him reconcile with the Addisons along the way.

[@dantesdiscoinfernolol]

Oh dear, I would play the HECK out of that route. _I WILL make friends with the salesman_

[@Stanfordscienceman]

After doing this route,you have the option to either have spamton in your party or he gives a [[HALF OFF SALE]] of pressing f1 for help on every fight where he heals 50% of your party members hp

[@cgimichaelmyers2806]

So pretty much a good ending for the Salt Route? It sounds nice especially after Spamton got the shit end of the stick in each route. He needs a good ending for once.

[@verdantViridity]

OH MY GOD, finally, a comment I left actually posted!

[@samiam9202]

I was thinking this too, I headcanon this to be the start of the sugar route.

[@lidkasplus]

This is giving me strong creepypasta vibes and absolutely love it, this legit looks like some kinda abandoned lost media alternate version of the game thats hella creepy, Im all in for this kinda stuff

[@JQR.]

Thx a lot!!, I've been following your work for a while, so it's rlly cool that you somehow found this video

[@lidkasplus]

@@JQR. Im honored 🙏 Keep up the great work 🙌

[@JQR.]

@@lidkasplus thx!!

[@delt2601]

Oh, Hi!!

[@JQR.]

@@delt2601 hello!

[@repentanceee]

Queen's fight was terrifying. She dropped her usual chatty, memey self and doesn't speak at ALL during the fight, as well as Spamton's health rapidly depleting and Queen's stern glare instead of her patient smile. This idea was absolutely AMAZING too. I would LOVE and could definitely see something similar with Jevil in Chapter 1, at the end taking ultimate vengeance against King for locking him up. Edit: got damn someone made this a reality on tumblr

[@juiceman82]

holy crap I saw you in a video where you were making fun of jellybean so someone roasted ur pfp

[@repentanceee]

@@juiceman82 enough about my mistaken past, let's talk about my mistaken future

[@manteroid]

@@juiceman82 a true warrior, fallen for their own beliefs.

[@manteroid]

it wouldn’t be easy to manipulate Jevil as he doesn’t want anything, if he had wanted something you could use that as leverage for something like this but he really doesn’t care. he also thinks he’s free and would thank and mock the king for setting him free in that cell lol

[@ikedaren_29336]

@@juiceman82 and this, kids, is why i’m scared of my past comments 😎 (why was i so stupid and obnoxious dear god)

[@DogDogGodFog]

'She's the only [1 LEFT]' is such an ingenious line

[@grape_protogen]

Dang, this makes Snowgrave look subtle. In Snowgrave, you had Noelle turn Berdly, a kid she didn't even like that much, into an ice cube and left her wondering if it was a dream or not. Salt, and you don't end at forcing Spamton to genocide his own people murder his friend, cold blood, in the middle of a hug. You make him continue on until everyone is dead, put him on a new set of strings, beat him til his teeth fall out, commit regicide, and then admit you used him the whole time while he goes home to sit in his trash dump and live the rest of his remaining days with the guilt of what he was forced to do. Salt melts snow, and I think I see why now.

[@Fivekato5]

@@assbeater204 Explain

[@masterblaster38]

@@assbeater204 why It is SALT route?

[@gummywormee41]

@@masterblaster38 because you pick up salt off the ground duh

[@iliketosaytruecomments3326]

@@assbeater204 i want to see a route branching of this route someone commented aboutsomething in the sugar route where uou dont give spamton your spare key and he gets a happy ending lol

[@BE-fw1lr]

What? Berdly was literally Noelle's best friend lmao. Sure he was a jackass but she doesn't really know Susie despite having a crush on her and she's estranged from Kris, she even mentions that Berdly is generally nice when it's just the two of them. Snowgrave Route is absolutely awful. I'd say this might be the less bad route just because well... As bad as it is, Spamton does deserve it a lot more than Noelle. After all, he was perfectly willing to have this be her fate. Not so nice when the shoe's on the other foot.

[@BE-fw1lr]

Something about this route has always seemed almost... Karmic? I mean obviously nobody deserves what happens in this route, but it's an interesting parallel to Snowgrave. Spamton was so willing to let Kris be a puppet, to let Noelle be manipulated and tortured with a device he gave the player. And yet in this route... He gets to see what its like, he gets to be the [hochi mama] strung along like a puppet, forced to kill those he cares about. It's a bit ironic is all.

[@isimyok960]

Yeah, in Snowgrave, he helped us to use Noelle. In there, we used him.

[@kaviarlevelmui2995]

I’m I’m being honest Noelle got it easy spamton got his teeth knocked out had to kill one of his best friends killed absolutely everyone just because he wanted his keys back and he was a puppet already before kris and Noelle he was forced to do that to Noelle and spamton lives there which means he will be alone for the rest of his life while noelle did that in a world where it’s just a dream to her and she didn’t really care about berdly to really even be concerned for him not waking up

[@BE-fw1lr]

@@kaviarlevelmui2995 What? Noelle cares a ton about Berdly, he was literally her best friend and she iterates her care for him quite a few times throughout the game. Sure their relationship isn't perfect but she's willing to sacrifice herself in the normal route to ensure Berdly's safety. Anyway my point is, that Spamton was evil already before this route- and even if he doesn't deserve all this, he certainly deserves it more than Noelle deserved snowgrave.

[@kaviarlevelmui2995]

@@BE-fw1lr wait yeah your right about berdly my bad about that one

[@kaviarlevelmui2995]

@@BE-fw1lr spamton was not the best but I don’t think he would do this if he was his old self before mike ruined him he has moments where he is asking for help showing he has no control over his actions noelle atleast had a choice if Susie doesn’t have to listen to kris noelle doesn’t Eaither she was willing to do all that stuff while spamton was a puppet already noelle did the regular genocide rout and had to Jill someone important to them noelle was really frisk in that spamton had a lot of things in the salt rout while kris could spare in snowgrave spamton had to relize he is the reason they even did that rout because he took the spare key and spamton had no choice while noelle was stronger then kris and didn’t have to listen to them

[@bingchilling3914]

God if this were a real route... I wouldn't have the heart to do it. I love these characters and seeing Kris actually kicking the hell out of Spamton and seeing him actually getting hurt was heart breaking.

[@sketchedbees7445]

There were other options, so you could've had Spamton with you and not beat him up!

[@NOVAISD3AD]

I don't even have the heart to do a regular Undertale genocide route,this just stings and hurts in every way possible

[@bwabiedapoosy]

When i heard kris beating the [[ hyperlink blocked ]] out of spamton i just wanted to kick them in the face so bad

[@MizuRuiCannonReal]

@@bwabiedapoosy same when Kris beat up spamton in the mansion I literally shocked

[@shaunduzstuffs]

It's just a game lmfao

[@joewilliams-un8vu]

The last scene with Kris getting soft locked is so unsettling because it means they can’t even get back to the light world either, Kris will forever be trapped in a world where they have no one left.

[@secretivesircu]

not to mention without kris or queen, ralsei and Susie are trapped in cells forever.

[@joewilliams-un8vu]

@@secretivesircu Oh yeah and Kris is the only one that can seal the fountain because they have a human soul.

[@isimyok960]

This pretty much means Kris and the crew pretty much gets comatozed (stucked in dark world) for the rest of their life in the end

[@GFCOLCQuote]

I feel like instead of "You don't need Mike" it might have been more appropriate to say "You don't need someone who will [Leave you in the dark]" Hits the right theme, mood, we know who he's talking about due to tone and expression and all wrapped up in a phrase that's core to deltarune. Right now, a lot of his text at the start feels like "He says this in his shop! Quirky!!" Everything else though was pretty spot on, you literally had me check to see if my headset wasn't working because the sound fucking died.

[@JQR.]

Thanks for the suggestion!, that would have fit in way better then what I had in mind , and yeah soz for the lag my pc isn't the greatest

[@kaxcommentssomethingREAL]

@@JQR. I think the lag actually adds to the immersion, it feels like the game is trying to stop you from going any further, or something like that

[@JQR.]

@@kaxcommentssomethingREAL oh thanks!, when you word it like that I guess it does make it better to some degree

[@The_Seer_Hangified_His_Family]

@@JQR. is there anyway you can re-upload this or something to fix the lag?

[@JQR.]

@@The_Seer_Hangified_His_Family I will probably upload a video with fixed audio, visuals and extra stuff in the future

[@squiddog8933]

The softlock is a great ending imo cause it really helps make the whole route feel like it was never meant to exist as if it's unfinished. The music kind of ruined the moment a bit tho

[@D0NTHEMAN]

Its pretty laggy

[@darsterz]

one hour in and it's 2am and the "he didn't have my keys" part scared the shit out of me i love this

[@JQR.]

Glad you like it!

[@cainadams3529]

Same and the glasses breaking part

[@cosmicmama6983]

Was I the only one who saw eyes when he turned towards the viewer?

[@DaHypnotik]

I like how Susie, Ralsei, Berdly and Noelle stop existing after Spamton joins your party.

[@Another_leaf]

I mean, Noelle maybe is in her room, because we can hear some noises from there? We can't be sure. You're right tho, through the entire video i thought "where the hell is Ralsei, Susie and Berdly?". Like, they don't show signs of being anywhere at all and we don't kill them.

[@DaHypnotik]

@@Another_leaf Exactly. I am suprised that no one even mentions this.

[@ZaxorVonSkyler]

@@Another_leaf They all might be in the room with her or captured in the other rooms queen gave them. So now everyone is trapped except Spamton.

[@angelromolopez3268]

The get trapped at the mansion entrance and since you don’t use lancer to free them they’re still stuck in their rooms.

[@dylanzlol7293]

@@Another_leaf they arent around because in the og dream they simply disappeared

[@NominalDingus]

I feel like the lag in the video sorta adds to it's creepy factor

[@JQR.]

Oh snap watup nominal!!, thx alot for letting me use your music!!, most of this wouldn't have the same feel without it!

[@pepsinoe]

oh my god is that nominal dingus

[@xuragentofthenine355]

Yeah I though the lag/low frame rate was intentional

[@the10ofdiamondscard]

​@deanthe its lag mate

[@jmoriboy]

it gives a sort of "lost" or "found footage" feel imo

[@LiterallyJustScarfy]

this is concerningly well made, sure it's obvious that this is fan made noticing that sometimes it CLEARLY looks like an animation, but good gosh the amount of dedication it took to probably make it anyways is suprising, and at the same time pretty depressing, seriously Kris has made Spamton go through SO much torture just because he wanted his keys back, but regardless it left me shocked of how good this is.

[@JQR.]

Well thanks! It took me around 6 months I think to complete dis, it was one of them things I wanted to make immediately after hearing about the original Salt Route posts just cause of how believable it sounded in terms of being some weird, secret route (morso than SnowGrave somehow)

[@kefkaexdeath]

Lancer's "Whoa! Who's that clown!?" line is one of the most cutting remarks possible because it implies that Spamton is A. a clown, and B. not even one of the better known clowns

[@ladinahat]

51:29 I think it's super interesting how Spamton says you 2 when referring to Kris

[@WolfyRed]

I think it's meant as "too", like "YOU TOO CAN ENJOY THIS [THING]!"

[@waffler-yz3gw]

@@WolfyRed also could refer to the fact kris is under the player's control and is moreso two people than one

[@Peppermynt.]

The fact that lancer only turns to stone after rouxls dies actually is terrifying, the fact that he saw everyone get killed yet couldn’t do anything about it

[@09Alvaro]

1:25:01 the queen looks mad, confused, disgusted and sad all at the same time. and also spamton asking you to spare the addison even though he has your spare key

[@demon_lamb]

i think its really cool how when your with noelle and do this puzzle (31:50) it spelled out the name of her sister, december, and when youre with spamton, it spelled out dialtone.

[@josephisherelol5302]

IS THAT WAS DES IS?

[@justanothercommentercarryo8367]

The lag makes this feel like a content leak, and that adds to the fever dream feeling. Also just genuinely a great mod to the game, best ive seen from a technical standpoint.

[@dantesdiscoinfernolol]

The shop discussion was good overall, but I always thought of the lost keys as the Keygen. It would then make sense why Spam would need them so badly and why he never gets Neo - can't get in the basement without it. I wouldn't have had the Keygen be buyable, but other than that, this is a really good creation of this cursed route so far.

[@twustermydude]

i love how roulxs just got decked even in this Effed Up Nightmare Edition of deltarune and everybody treats it as normal

[@Stoopid0708]

normal route:happi fun time snowgrave route:psychological abuse salt route:psychological AND physical abuse

[@daviviana862]

Now we need a psychological, physical and SPIRITUAL abuse

[@jinxlover9719]

man this thing is really fire, spamton is very in character, very dark, sad and editing is also very good, sometimes it is kinda off and sounds get a bit delayed but other than that i really liked this. hope this video will get the attention it deserves one day

[@JQR.]

Thx!

[@jtx2840]

oh my god this is absolutely amazing, this video is horrifying and I love it. you managed to make me feel even more sorry for poor spamton than the actual game did. the whole thing just feels so creepypasta like and uncanny, and those animations of spamton on a black background asking for his keys and getting beaten up are really haunting. I honestly really hope future chapter's weird routes get as dark as this because this is an amazing concept that you have turned into a full video, and the end product is amazing. it's insane to think something this terrifying and well made could come from one person's dream. great job making this, I don't know what you used to make it but it literally looks just like gameplay, and the stuttery-ness of the video gives me huge 2000s internet creepypasta vibes.

[@JQR.]

Thx a lot!!, also I made most of this by recording gameplay and drawing over them in aesprite for cutscenes and stuff

[@gabrote42]

The creativity uses for Dreams is very understated

[@potatodude3947]

Imagine if this were actually in the game. 1:10:12 alone would cause so much chaos due to Gaster finally appearing for sure.

[@pitori.]

Idk i feel like it was more just the heart but front facing

[@aetherresonant9079]

@@pitori. Nah, that's him, cuts on his face (or maybe it's a part of his eye) and all.

[@tyvanbuskirk1009]

The fact you were somehow able to mod the game itself, and add additional animations for this is pretty impressive. This is great for a fully conceptualized Salt Route. Definitely helps lay the “blueprints” for how a playable game could possibly go. Great work on this, I can’t imagine how much time you spent on this.

[@JQR.]

Thx!, I spent 6 months on dis

[@tamamo3964]

i wonder how that one tumblr user feels about seeing how much amazing stuff stemmed from a weird dream they had

[@dr.mortalkombat7362]

Seeing spamton get abused and mistreated so violently is heartbreaking

[@Garbo_trashcan]

especially considering how horrible kris would feel being forced to beat him up so badly.

[@board-qu9iu]

@@Garbo_trashcan I actually think, Kris did it on his own. Spamptom implies that Kris was free of the players control when he beat him up. That just makes this run even scary

[@nestorwilfredosaluk9304]

@@board-qu9iu wasn't it when he took his soul off

[@board-qu9iu]

@@nestorwilfredosaluk9304 spamton said it was without player input

[@nestorwilfredosaluk9304]

@@board-qu9iuI mean, we control the soul...

[@hamzainium]

1:14:24, this is so horrifying, it chills me to my core

[@kajetus0688]

-Kris- Player just straight up beaten up spamton...

[@lorezero5881]

@@kajetus0688 poor spamton g spanton

[@shadow27plasma19]

@@kajetus0688 [N°1 Salesman since 1976] doesn't need this really [Non-satisfied] Treatment

[@vibevibevibevibevibevibe]

bro got tortured by his 1# customer

[@areyasquiddinme]

perhaps it chills you down to the bone

[@Dysideo]

The scene of Spamton being ruthlessly hurt and broke me inside a little, even if he isn't exactly the best guy, that hurt to watch and I almost teared up, even if there was no animation. That was sad and horrifying, but maybe that's my PTSD. Either way, this was phenomenal, even if it had it's flaws. I loved this.

[@JQR.]

Thank you!

[@ivangordienko8081]

@@JQR. [[Hochi Mama]]! I CAN TASTE THE .

[@JQR.]

@@ivangordienko8081 he can taste the .

[@Idrinkepoxyresin]

@@JQR. can he really taste the .?

[@JQR.]

@@Idrinkepoxyresin he can indeed taste the .

[@DanteEdward]

Good lord, that was horrifying to watch. I certainly enjoyed every second of it, though! The story was very well thought-out, the animations were great, the music was solid, And coming back to see this concept fully fleshed out was thoroughly satisfying! Thank you for putting all the work into this that you did!

[@JQR.]

Thanks a lot!, I also enjoyed making this you for guys

[@menolikeyou805]

When I was reading the title of the video I didn't know what the salt route was. Originally I thought it was going to be a snowgrave route but salt was gonna be used to melt the ice and free frozen enemies. Oh how I was wrong.

[@HDDStrider]

the saddest part of the addison fight is that it's spamton's fault. had he not taking your [spare] key then you could've spared the addison

[@criminalkara]

it's so eerie how when you exit berdly's fight area (after entering the manhole), the music is just gone and someone's face shows momentarily on the screen instead of it doing the normal fade animation that you get when changing rooms just got to the part where Kris tries to escape and it's soooo goood

[@asaghcfgdfuyvhrghflowey9997]

Gaster

[@KyrieFortune]

​@@asaghcfgdfuyvhrghflowey9997 it's "Everyman", the funky penguin-like figure in Reaper Bird's battle, Gaster appears much later

[@shawermus]

I like how... Just... There's so much moments where you can... Just stop. Like the snowgrave route, you can stop until it is too late...

[@dylanzlol7293]

Well, from what i heard, not giving the spare key to spamton leads to the sugar route

[@worstkong]

​@@dylanzlol7293evenvthen you might abort salt by using the normal attack on adasin rather than heartbreaker

[@TheMarshmallowMushroom]

damn this is heartbreaking, holy shit abuse, manipulation, psychological torture... this is worse than snowgrave

[@velvette_star]

absolutely

[@GigachadHGDYDBHDB]

physical abuse, emotional, manipulation. this is horryfing. man now spamton is officially my most favorite character.

[@bananadaily2317]

i sadly agree,don’t get me wrong i adore tobys work but i feel this is better and darker

[@repentanceee]

Something horrifying to know is that we are doing the same exact stuff to Kris all this time. We're abusing their body, manipulating them to do what they fear, even now we're making them be a prick to Spamton.

[@velvette_star]

@@repentanceee THEIR* body

[@kibbeh]

hey, it's cool to see this route fully realized in one way or another! after the salt route stuff faded out of popularity and my interest in spamton waned I was worried it might never happen, so thanks for sharing your take on it-- I'm sure it took a lot of time to finish a project as big as this! your sprite work is super cool :)

[@JQR.]

Oh hey it's you!!, you're actually kinda the reason I ended up making this, ever since I saw your salt route ending video I got inspired to make my own, so thanks! and it's cool you found this video!

[@kibbeh]

​@@JQR. that's awesome, I'm glad I could provide some inspiration! it's honestly a little surreal to hear that I might've sparked a huge project like this. this has also got me considering doing another recreation, maybe one of the smaller scenes I wrote way back when (probably one of the earlier ones that are a bit more upbeat), but I'd need the right tools for the job given how tough it was making the first two frame by frame. if you don't mind me asking, what did you end up using to put this together?

[@JQR.]

@@kibbeh I recorded my Deltarune gameplay (aside from the addison fight which was completely animated) and then turned the recording into a gif file so I could draw over it in aesprite (with spamton's attacks, cutscenes and new dialogue all being drawn in). Then I put the edited gif recordings over the regular recordings and tried to add sound for dialogue and other things that weren't in the regular recording. Hope that helped!, I would love to see what you do if you ever end up making something new!

[@violetnocte]

Here's my interpretation: the salt isn't normal salt. To a lightner, it would appear like a clump of salt (I know it's just big so that it can actually be seen, but...) but to darkners, specifically computer/ai based ones, it's different. It can mess with them in weird ways when in proximity of them, like how Spamton suddenly felt like he needed to look for his keys. It might just affect Spamton's species, or it might also extend to Queen, Swatch, and (if you don't think Spamton is one) the Addisons. Kris just doesn't spend enough time around anyone but Spamton to mess with anyone else's AI. (As for Queen, well, she may be younger than Spamton, which in computers can mean better performance, and Spamton's already so glitchy as to probably make him pretty vulnerable to this kind of thing.)

[@XiELEd4377]

Kinda like radioactive stuff huh?

[@kellymountain]

@@XiELEd4377 spamton is just uranium

[@yellowpower3755]

That makes me wonder what it actually is…

[@TheYeetedMeat]

Like an adversarial image?

[@alexmorales6829]

What if it's monster dust

[@witchlock2897]

Noticable and notable changes start at around 27:50 Everything else before it is pretty much just normal deltarune gameplay, with maybe one or two oneliners about salt.

[@ricedanan]

This entire concept video evoked the unnerving wrongness I felt when I first encountered Spamton in my first playthrough and kinda made me feel even more uneasy as the route continued with Spamton trying to get back into his usual salesman persona as a way to cope with what's going on along with his missing keys. The very scuffed and lagging recording, stuttering and absent audio, the occasionally odd scaling of some of the sprites and rough animation really add to this really weird and unnerving feeling throughout the entire route and the roughness of it all gives it a weird dream-like feel which is very fitting considering the entire salt route was spawned from the AU Creator's dream. Also really impressed that managed to get a lot of Queen's unused attacks to work during the battle and the slight flashing of blue and the random subtle size change of the screen during the battle adds to the dream-like feeling I mentioned earlier. Also I really like how you acknowledged Lancer being in Kris' spacious pants hole. People tend to forget that he's there. Him witnessing the hilariously tragic death of Rouxls Kaard and finally turning to stone was also rather mortifying and a bit funny.

[@Clownfly64]

I can totally imagine someone just finding all five salts then when Spamton asks for their Spare Key they're just like "Sure, why not"... Only to be horrified when it says they can no longer Spare enemies.

[@theladiescallmesona]

"ok lol" ". wgat the, HELL"

[@uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhidk]

thats why i think this wouldnt fit in the game, the salt would have to be really well hidden (like in the egg secrets or something) so that players just going through the game dont accidentally get this route

[@actuallybingbing]

Love the effort put in to make spamtons dialogue as realistic as possible Sometimes i see people just put certain words in brackets and say "theres spamton!"

[@pitori.]

True that was. Really good dialogue

[@onekingdom1955]

fantastic, almost didn't realize the strings were visible during the heartbreak

[@Wildartist]

It actually broke me how lancer saw roulx actually die-

[@GabrielsAdvent]

I love the fact of there being no actual ending, and Kris is just left there.

[@CarlitoMush]

Gives the feeling we aren't supposed to even be here and be doing all this and the only thing that is left is to just go back and do it correctly

[@TheMarshmallowMushroom]

my guy really out here killing people for his keys

[@fansundertable649]

People will do anything for their keys.

[@imnotok4444]

I'd shoot five infants infront of their mothers to find out which one of them got the keys. I mean if it gets me my keys back, and if I didn't do it for nothing, sure why not

[@peveral4246]

AWW YEAH IT'S FINALLY HERE!! I love how fleshed out the gameplay and story are, it really brings out the potential of the original concept. Amazing job man, and tysm again for using my music for the final boss

[@JQR.]

OH FLIP IT'S YOU!!!, tysm for allowing me to use ur music it rlly added to the queen fight

[@Gamemode088]

bruh your front facing sprite is scary

[@JQR.]

@@Gamemode088 oh yeah I'm well aware, he is cursed

[@Bayron9149]

Queen when you freeze everyone:😃 Queen when you kill everyone with a crazy salesman:😡

[@Bayron9149]

@Pacicide Jane yeah,I don't think you can stay alive after all your Bodie and inner organs just stay solid freeze

[@nestorwilfredosaluk9304]

@@Bayron9149 queen does get worried at the end of snowgrave, she just didn't realize what was happening, I wonder how

[@brontegoodman6238]

She might not have believed what people were telling her about Snowgrave (she may have been in denial that Noelle would do this) but she saw Spamton kill that Swatchling in front of her face...

[@ЕрсұлтанЖеңіс]

In snowgrave queen never has seen how kris and noelle freezes berdly or any other dark world person while in salt route she letteraly Infront of her eyes sees how her swatchling got brutally killed and eaten

[@dragonfenix9080]

to be fair, she literally witnessed you kill someone in front of her damn eyes queen doesn't see you freeze someone alive right in front of her eyes in snowgrave so she doesn't know as much

[@MacabreLibra]

i really love how it's low quality, it gives you a feeling that i can't describe, it's creepy but also...nostalgic?

[@senorjecansu1093]

Now you understand Noelle a bit more

[@kris_something]

There’s a difference between low quality and lag

[@pantamonte]

I think i have very small personal nitpicks with this kind of au just because I can't imagine a route where Rouxls is killed off and Kris actually does direct murder (at least from what we have in canon so far). But despite that it's actually really really interesting and this concept was well done. Like others said, it really does feel straight out of a creepypasta and its actually well written and disturbing. Spamton's very in-character for the most part and the details like changing the pop-ups to relate to the keys was such a nice detail. So glad some content for this AU was made like this. It's been personally getting me thru the lack of new chapters/official content. This is actually my first real introduction to the AU route as well :) Nice job!

[@JQR.]

Thanks!

[@dylanzlol7293]

its not direct murder tho

[@frogginet5353]

i know this has already been said before but i do really think the lag/generally iffiness of the videos quality adds to the creepiness. something about it makes it feel more like things are "unstable", if that makes sense

[@that1gameguy]

This is amazing! You really nailed the fever dream feeling!

[@JQR.]

Tysm

[@mammybates]

But ♧◇♡◇♧♡♤◇◇ (in english, nobody) came

[@mammybates]

The Jack of ♤ is lancer

[@asaghcfgdfuyvhrghflowey9997]

@@mammybates 👌︎︎🕆︎︎❄︎︎ ☠︎︎⚐︎︎👌︎︎⚐︎︎👎︎︎✡︎︎ 👍︎︎✌︎︎💣︎︎☜︎

[@Average_PlayerFromRBX]

its funny that spamton take away the ability to spare and tries to spare on the end realizing its gone i kinda wanna see a salt route with spare ability still being there and you just spare everyone and acually get spamton's keys and you dont get punished in the end

[@dylanzlol7293]

That would be the sugar route

[@dasonicfan9760]

this video is under rated it just hits different in a way other fan games or fan bosses don't

[@JQR.]

Thx!

[@orangejuice1287]

this hits so much harder than simply reading the text post, really good

[@JQR.]

Tysm!

[@maxeplier]

Things I'm wondering: 1: what would a Pacifist version be like? 2. what if you bring your soul to Spamton?

[@repentanceee]

I'd imagine if you bring the soul to Spamton, it would say something like "You can't control what is already being controlled."

[@maxeplier]

@@repentanceee damn nice idea

[@rexenowner]

1:10:12 Split second unsettling frame of Gaster Startled me about as much as the sudden attack right before Edit: other split second unsettling freezeframes I've also seen pointed out are 37:02 and 34:24

[@margaretflis3038]

I think those freeze frames are actually the player going AFK to see what they have to do next

[@Itgoesdeluxe]

The one on 34:24 is just keys

[@Itgoesdeluxe]

I don't know what the one on 37:02 is, may be a head or something?

[@Itgoesdeluxe]

1:10:12 is DEFINITELY gaster

[@rich_gamer0667]

I think 37:02 is everyman Or salt..

[@slimeboy_64]

I haven't even gotten to the end yet, but I'm not joking when I say that *this makes the Snowgrave Route look like True Pacifist. This is absolute nightmare fuel. I feel so sorry for Spamton.* Edit: I've finished the video. *I haven't changed my mind.*

[@dylanzlol7293]

Some salt route pacifist version (sugar route?) Ideas: 1:10:00 "Hey, So The Swatchlings Told Me That There's Two Guys-" "Wait, It's You! Kris, Why Do You Have A Trucie With Him!?" "[Y O U]! YOU MADE ME [Walk the Plank] TO [Acid Bath in] [[PAIN]]!" "ONCE I GET THAT [[Work-out Ready]] BODY AND MY KEYS, YOU'LL [Get it]." "Attention All Swatchlings: Capture Kris And Kick The Loser Out Again LMAO" Ending scene: "I made you proud, didn't i?" ❤ no. "Didn't i?" ❤ Yes ("Recruit" text appears over spamton) "Thanks, kris." "*EHEM* WELL, THE FOUNTAIN IS UP AHEAD, AND YET..." "WELL, THERE'S ONE. LAST. PLACE. WE CAN [Sea]" "[[Kris LV 2 - Queen's Basement]]" "COME ON, [Friend]."

[@TheGreatPikminZX789]

Seeing this just made me realize that if it's possible to get gems like this from someone's dreams of an alternate route, then damn, that's quite the dedication to seeing this thing be fulfilled (even when it's just a route that softlocks you at the end of it). Took me on quite a trip to see the original inspiration for this video, and seeing this certainly gave me the creeps (even with the unintended lag). I am a little curious as to why there's two instances of mysterious faces hidden in the video (one at 37.02 and the other at 1:10:12 - might need to pause and use the comma key to rewind a few frames for reference). The second face clearly seems to be Gaster's face (why he's smiling is something I probably don't wanna think about given this whole route is the Spamton equivalent of the Snowgrave route), but I'm not sure whose face it is at the first instance. Is it even resembling a face, or is it just something solely made for this video alone? It is just odd that these are just placed there (one even there just for a few milliseconds while another fades in before going back to the scene at hand), but I can't help wondering what they mean, context and all. Either way, this was a great video (for both my curious mind and the feels that I have for this route's Spamton ;-; )

[@JQR.]

Thx!

[@caltheuntitled8021]

The first face looks like a stylized Everyman face

[@JQR.]

@@caltheuntitled8021 Yup it is

[@trevorfranks9390]

Amazing work finnaly i knew there was something left for this au

[@TheSprk96]

The ending is so sad… Spamton walks off probably lost his self after everything that just happend kris is stuck at the queen battle room for entirety and god knows what happened to ralsei Susie Noelle berdley and lancer… It’s just the way spamton walks off in the end Well I guess you can’t please everybody. Just hits so hard. Man I’m so happy this isn’t official

[@dinabit7969]

34:24 his keys. keep pausing to see them

[@SpamtonGaming0]

So ominous that in the queen fight. Kris and Spamton are attached to strings. Just watching them kill the last other non controlled thing alive ...

[@goobertron9132]

i love how kris gets the consequences of being stuck in the queen battle area forever, i guess queen's final attack download was successful

[@basedorigins8326]

Forward facing spamton isn't real, he can't hurt you Foward facing spamton: 30:26

[@Melodii9000]

LMAO HIS FACCE

[@inobservableuniverse]

oh this is sick!!! all the details are really cool-- this is fucking terrifying lmao, that ending in particular was horrifying jeez VERY cool front facing spamton WILL haunt my dreams though /j

[@JQR.]

Front facing spamton is pretty cursed

[@extreem3956]

“TOSS ME MY [keys]!” … “I SAID MY “[keys]!” “I thought you said murder!” “WHY THE [!$X&] WOULD I SAY [murder]!?”

[@null4634]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO nice reference 👍😂

[@norbivans9939]

This felt like watching an actual deltarune creepypasta. Really great job and interesting au. It's kinda terrifying to imagine that after everything we did, Kris will be stuck in the dark world, unable to get out. Keep up the great work!

[@JQR.]

Thx!

[@pitori.]

I mean He deserved it He probably can jump out of the roof but i don’t think he’ll survive that

[@Jesty.r]

⁠@@pitori.They* And they didn’t really deserve that, as the player made them do all that horrifying shit

[@dusktheowlgryphon]

The atmosphere actually made me dread upcoming battles, and not much can do that to me. Overall, pretty good.

[@consumerofuranium8050]

I had absolutely no idea about what this was, heard of it from another comment not even related to this, now that ive found it, this is incredible. It gives creepypasta vibes as another comment said. But as another comment said, i feel like the KEYGEN is what shouldve been the missing key, since no NEO body, no becoming god, etc. But even if it wasnt, im kind of dissapointed that spamton had no chance to become NEO in this route due to a giant pile of salt which couldve probably been pushed over with ease.

[@sleepymushroom7041]

THIS IS SO AMAZING BUT ITS SO SAD 😭 Like you took a literal broken man *puppet* and both manipulated and abused him. Even Kris tried to stop the route mid-way by taking out their own soul and (attempt) run away. The creator of the Salt Route *REALLY* looked at Spamton, who is already at rock bottom, threw down a shovel and said: “…Start Digging…” Don’t get me wrong the gameplay (animation?) and AU itself is just *Chef Kiss* PERFECTION 😚🤌 But you have to admit that it is truly heartbreaking, especially if Spamtons your favorite character. (Spoiler Warning: He’s my favorite character 🥲) I love how the creator’s (all those involved in making the Salt Route) managed to keep Spamton in character yet show subtle details of it slowly breaking away as the game progressed. This especially shows after *YOU* order Spamton to…. “Cancel” the blue Addison’s Life Subscription… Spamton KNEW something was up, because- well… the two of you were killing everyone. So, in order to keep Spamton by your side, the player manipulated him by claiming it’s all just to “Help” him find his keys. I think, if he didn’t trust you enough, Spamton would’ve just run away after you killed the Blue Addison, instead of being dragged around. At that point, the game revealed how Spamton is now just another pawn like Noelle. This becomes evident when you equip him with the thorn ring, and grab him by the [[Silly Strings]] in battle. What takes the cake that tops off the whole AU is the ending. After Spamton asks you if he made you proud, no matter how many times it chose YES, Spamton kept asking. Then ends it off with: “I guess it’s true when they said you can’t please everyone” The question was to the *PLAYER* and it was to show that no matter what happens or how “strong” the two become, the player will never be satisfied. It’s sorta like a mixture of Snowgrave but also Sans theme song Megalomania Megalomania/Megalomaniac: A person with an extreme obsession with *POWER* (Or in this case strength) The more LOVE you gained, the easier it becomes to distance yourself. The stronger you grew, the easier it became to manipulate and abuse Spamton. I’m both disappointed and relieved that this isn’t apart of the canon game. It would be interesting for players to mess with the choices like: Not giving Spamton the *SPARE KEY* or choosing different dialogues. But it would be gut wrenching to watch gameplays of people choosing the Salt Route and seeing Spamton get the living [[#%&@]] beaten out of him… (That’s all for my rant… sorry for making it so long 😅)

[@davisantana8377]

Ngl, i'm curious about what a alternate version of this would look like, you actually helping Spamton find his keys and following onto the end of the castle without killing the entire Darkworld in the process.

[@DeltaBlazin]

Queen in snowgrave: Hmm Didn't I Have An Entire Kingdom Of Guys That Suddenly Vanished? Oh, Nvm. Queen in Salt Route: *I'm going to fucking erradicate you.*

[@ЕрсұлтанЖеңіс]

In snowgrave she never has seen someone to be frozen or heared about frozen darkners but in the salt route she send swatchling to spy on kris and spamton only to found out what a killing spree they have caused and she even has seen swatchling to die right Infront of her of course after she can't be the same queen as we know

[@DeltaBlazin]

​@@ЕрсұлтанЖеңісOk but that doesn't matter, why tf does she only ask about what happened to them only once? She just completely dismisses it after that, doesn't try asking Ralsei or anyone else or anything, she just stops, and that's dumb. People say how the snowgrave route is darker than Undertale's genocide run, but with how little the living characters react to your actions (besides Noelle which is not good enough) it's hard for me to agree.

[@Husbandofelliot]

I was expecting something like snowgrave. But I full on started tearing up during this like wow.

[@JQR.]

Oh wow thx, I tried hard to set it apart from snowgrave

[@ChanceTheBrony]

Fun fact: “Salt” is a term used in computer science. Essentially, passwords aren’t stored in plaintext, but instead encrypted, and encrypted passwords are called “hashes”. “Salt” is essentially a random number that is added/multiplied/etc to the “hash” to make it harder to crack. (Unless the salt and hash are stored in the same space, in which case, it’s still pretty easy). Given that the Queen’s mansion is guarded by [High Quality Encryption] that is broken by the KEYGEN, it actually kind of makes sense that salt is needed for Spamton’s keys to exist.

[@godsclown4419]

DUDE, THIS IS SUCH TOP TALENT STUFF! i cant imagine how long this took to make, epitome of trust the process. wow.

[@neron0va]

this was creepy to me, and that's coming from someone with a high horror tolerance, you and everyone else did a fantastic job on this, everything was so well done, the vibes were off in the best way possible, was legitimately better than snowgrave, my only issue is that there's no mod download!

[@JQR.]

Oh wow that's good to hear!, there *may* be a mod download in the future, if that ever happens though, it will certainly take longer to make

[@themanglenator1225]

I kinda want a playable route/ version of the game like this.. spamton would be an awesome ally

[@gabrote42]

57:08 This wasn't in the original dream! :D 57:35 Very interesting. I wonder if you can pull Spamton if Kris leaves. Kris would die from DT loss but that could take hours. Also, nice comparing your interpretation with Deltatraveler's. 1:01:40 Terrifying 1:14:30 Ouch. The heck? 1:18:52 That's actually very reasonable! Spamton can hardly say a word without being pulled away, but Kris enjoys freedom for an hour each night. Hmmm

[@trevorfranks9390]

Everyone put your hats down and have some respect for our greatest adversery rouxls kaard you'll be missed British man

[@anaidprz]

Wow, it was so faithful to the source material. I loved it

[@JQR.]

Thanks!

[@drascia]

When he said [[AUDIBLE DISAPPOINTMENT]] at the balloon chest, i felt that

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa4545]

This was spectacularly haunting. It leaves me curious about what happened to ralsei and Susie, as well as swatch and tasque manager.

[@CarlitoMush]

It's really likey they were just locked up in the cells queen made for them while they were just wondering how to get out all of this going on

[@kirbylover_6]

* Spamton left the party. (Kris is unable to leave the current room) *THEN THE WORLD* *WAS COVERED* *IN DARKNESS.*

[@ЕрсұлтанЖеңіс]

*thank YOU for playing

[@treythetrusting4954]

hey also id just like to say I LOVE THIS MORE THEN ANYTHING. Just a suggestion as for a plothole in your story. Now it's your take with your ideas so I'm in no way demanding this be canon to it but a reason behind darkners being able to be killed is because when the Cyber World is created it runs on code. That code doesn't account for Spamton ever joining under any normal circumstances. Thus all Systems are bypassed allowing darkners to be killed. The way you fleshed out concepts really impressed me and actually im working on my own Salt route inspired deltarune AU titled "Garbage Collector" that essentially takes concepts from both snowgrave and salt but does it with Berdley. Id love to share some of it w you if youd like and im more just exited at such a talented creator

[@JQR.]

Thx a lot man!!, honestly your idea makes a lot of sense and would be a good way to fill in that plothole, also I would love to see what you end up coming up with

[@Itzthevice]

The salt.

[@shockdoggo6889]

Great video, only issue i have is how laggy it is but i understand its probably issues that cant easily be solved

[@JQR.]

Yeah, thanks for understanding

[@van8739]

Imagine if this route was real, and some random player found this on their first play through accidebtally

[@daggerkindSpecibus]

The fact what Kris' attack animation changes from slash to stab is interesting and creepy.

[@a_soup_can]

"Spare key" was an unbelievably good pun