Economic Update: Fracking vs Fossil Fuel Profits - Interview with Award winning Director Josh Fox

[EU S14 E24] Fracking Vs Fossil Fuel Profits
In this week’s Economic Update, Professor Richard Wolff discusses the latest US and EU tariffs against China's electric vehicles, 27,000 Virginia teachers vote to unionize, and students and workers at all 6 University of California campuses strike against attempted repression of students peacefully advocating a Gaza ceasefire.
In the second half of our program, we interview Oscar-nominated and Emmy Winning writer, director, and anti-fracking activist Josh Fox of the award-winning films GASLAND Parts 1 and 2 on his latest film "The Edge of Nature"
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[@arcanondrum6543]

Tarrifs used to protect American Jobs but now that those Jobs have moved overseas, these new Tarrifs are only protecting the profits of (traditionally) American companies (that are now; international companies, taking advantage of every loophole they manage to negotiate).

[@reubenmorris487]

I'm sure those imported products were designed, produced, and marketed with Intellectual Property from the United States...whether it was stolen or "licensed."

[@vivalaleta]

We're very low income but have been supporting this show for years because it's taught us so much.

[@KGopidas]

@@vivalaleta god bless you infinitely!!!!!

[@miriamsilata8498]

Thankyou professor Wlf ❤

[@yogi4lyfe]

Thank you !

[@cev12]

I especially like the environmental and climate crisis content.

[@hafunland894]

Josh Fox is right all the activists in NY sacrificed immensely and after much blood, sweat and tears got the first ban on fracking in USA even though NY has some large reserves of frackable gas near Binghamton, NY. Josh however rode the wave of all the activist sacrificing and self-promoted himself and made a good amount of money and became somewhat famous for a short span. He is world's greatest self-promoter and many people behind the scenes in the NY movement found that out about him. Michel Moore graciously invited him to his home after Gasland came out and in the end, Josh returned the favor to Moore attacking his film release, "Planet of the Humans"', calling for Michael Moore’s ‘shockingly misleading’ new doc to be taken down. Of course, in the process Fox gained major attention that is what he always seeks attention and the money that follows...

[@orifox]

I was invited to Michael Moore's house? When was that?

[@hafunland894]

@@orifox Josh you're missing the main point, Moore was very helpful to you as an up-and-coming film maker. Here is what you said about Moore in The Battle for America’s Backyard: An Interview With “Gasland” Director Josh Fox By Amanda Lin Costa , TRUTHOUT Published February 1, 2012 JF:" I think Michael Moore revitalized the documentary. I went and saw “Roger and Me” in high school in the theater because my best friend came up to me and was like, “You gotta see this movie. I’ll go see it again! You have to see this guy, he’s great.” “Roger and Me” was a movie about globalization before globalization existed. He was prescient in doing that and some of the stuff he has in that film, my god. I re-watched it recently because I met Michael Moore recently. He’s a great guy and really deeply into supporting other documentary filmmakers. He’s willing to say things no one else is willing to say and get out there and I appreciate him so much." Now here is a leaked email of yours leading the charge to stop the public showing of Moore's film, "Planet of the Humans" From: ​Josh Fox​ Date: Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:41 AM Dear friends- I am so sorry to have to be the messenger here. But. This new Michael Moore movie, is, to put it politely A GIGANTIC CROCK OF SHIT. It is a disgusting unfactual unscientific abomination. You must take it down ASAP. I am so serious. It is absolutely disgustingly horrible. Beyond it being terribly made, amateurish and inept. It has absolutely no factual basis. It encourages the most baseless kind of thinking. It also goes after heroes in our movement in gotcha type interviews for no absolutely reason. It is TERRIBLE reporting. Cherry picking, ignorant. It is not only untrue, not factual in any way it is incredibly deceptive. I cannot stress this enough. This film is as untruthful and deceitful as anything Donald Trump EVER did. It must come down off of your pages immediately. Please call me ASAP. This is terribly upsetting. I don’t care what time of day or night it is, this abhorrent piece of misinformation must be rejected and disavowed immediately. IMMEDIATELY. Josh Fox p.s. I have copied several actual climate and renewable energy scientists on this email, for their review: take a look and join me in roundly condemning this atrocious nonsense. HERE: www.filmsforaction.org/watch/michael-moore-presents-planet-of-the-humans/ Josh would it not of been better to let society debate the film and is this a way to treat another film maker trying to save the planet , who in your own words said, "He’s a great guy and really deeply into supporting other documentary filmmakers." Activist beware Josh is out for Josh... "Cutting methane is the single fastest, most effective opportunity to reduce climate change risks in the near term," says atmospheric scientist Ilissa Ocko. That's because, unlike carbon dioxide, methane's warming power doesn't come from a gradual buildup over time but is almost entirely from recent emissions. Ocko identifies three main sources of methane pollution which, if addressed, could dramatically slow down the rate of global warming within years -- not decades. "This is the methane moment," Ocko says.

[@moneycologne]

Good stuff!

[@denisross2923]

Much is spoken about the military industrial complex but little about the energy industry complex and the automobile economy

[@davidluckens3479]

Solidarity/unity

[@flossyraven]

Which the US is far from having. May The Most High have mercy on his children and the innocent.

[@toyotaprius79]

Great video. As a long standing "EV Fan" including solar this trade spat is like an insult. ..please interview Nikki Gordon Bloomfield of Transport Evolved no better person I could think of

[@KGopidas]

Wish him all the best

[@darploin5071]

And you see that bubbles already burst nobody's spending a $120000 for a pickup truck anymore they're sitting on the lots rotting and basically

[@reubenmorris487]

Guess you haven't seen the management suite at my employer...

[@user-sz1rk1jj8j]

💙💙💙

[@angelicafrancisco3943]

The Wolf And The Fox !!!! What a story to be told . Many episodes in the making . I can’t wait for more ………..! Thank you my heart thanks you !

[@spanky7277]

BINGO !!!

[@user-sz1rk1jj8j]

Great advice 🩵

[@sl-lz3dw]

We need to TAKE OVER the political process. Representative Democracy represents whatever those elected or appointed choose. That is always different after any politician gets into office than when they run for office because "self interest" and because they have that freedom since "representatives" aren't delegates (people with predetermined mandates who are commissioned only until the mandate is complete or their commission withdrawn by the population that originally issued it). In a land where money (capital) is "political speech" capital is the state (and deep reservoirs of capital are deep state if there, indeed, is any deep state). Getting on the ballot is next to impossible without the support of capital so voters get, almost exclusively, choices between what benefits capital this way or that. Then there is the fact that six news conglomerates control almost all of the "information" (more accurately labeled propaganda) disseminated and treated as true, pertinent and complete. Those conglomerates ARE capital applied.

[@Rustea314]

End Citizens United.

[@bernardheathaway9146]

👌🏽

[@cbx500cbx]

In seventies tires went up from tariffs locals could charge more.

[@dimitristsagdis7340]

Roads and cow paths existed way before cars :-) Most states and empires build roads so that they could deploy the army , transport goods, etc. before the advent of the car.

[@angelicafrancisco3943]

Fantastic show !!!! Thank you so much .

[@darploin5071]

Do you think it might be best in Germany's interest to join bricks and get out of the G7?

[@rogerstarkey5390]

UK should!

[@JohnBeerschoten]

It would be but these countries can not join BRICS because they are the opponent. My opinion.

[@darploin5071]

Have you noticed Americans are not buying New cars or trucks lately and that's why they're piling up at the dealership and that's what we need to do unless we start seeing $10000 new pickup trucks new car's new electric cars no Americans should ever buy a car from a dealership again until we start seeing that and that will Force the tirf off

[@jaredmadsen7114]

What about the claim that the Chinese have priced their electric vehicles artificially lower than the actual manufactured cost for each unit, in order to undercut western markets and car manufacturers?

[@anthonyvasquez486]

You know - we humans are like fleas - mother earth is going to give a BIG scratch - to get US off of her - can you blame her! Thanks for all your time trying to set us all strait - I wish I wish it would make a difference NOW instead when its to late which more than likely will happen - that seems to be the pattern - I sure have learned a lot from you - thank you

[@sergiotornel5]

CORNEL WEST 2024 USA PRESIDENT

[@JMoroccoMisterBoy]

Dr. Wolff : Tks. much

[@user-vh5kf4ll1r]

Made in America means it’s more expensive. Not better quality. That’s been dead for 30 years. There is a car in America that’s worth what they’re asking for it. Americans will never get it through your head. Things don’t go up and value when they get older.

[@LordXypherious]

Congestion pricing is classist and regressive.

[@KGopidas]

Eventuslly people will overthrow their hovernment

[@Mikey-mike]

Josh Fox is a pretender and has no idea of fossil fuel, alternate energy, and the oil industry. Interview Art Berman. Josh Fox will be the first to whine when his lights go out. Thank you, Prof. Wolff.

[@robertmagyar6792]

Apologies for Josh Fox. How dare he or anyone question or offer an different view counter to that of the chosen gods of Big Oil and Gas.

[@IndepIndepWALT]

26:00 getting paid for riding my bike everywhere?! I'd be rich! cars are too expensive. when I was homeless in 2020 I biked 10 miles to work everyday. my trusty bike and my effort is al I need. "Riding a bike cost 0 in gas, so why don't you get up off your lazy ass" -me 2020

[@orifox]

Yes, in my view you should have been paid for that. Why do we all pay for roads (via our taxes) that cars destroy? Why do we pay (via our taxes) for fuels that kill us? If you are using alternate transportation instead of damaging roads and polluting the air, YES you should be compensated for that!

[@IndepIndepWALT]

@@orifox and to be fair it's actual work too, in a car you sit on your butt and move your foot up and down.

[@Rustea314]

It was so hot the day I left, I nearly froze to death.

[@user-sz1rk1jj8j]

What movie?

[@hoboroadie4623]

I am not a big math whiz, but I always thought that the big bucks are going to be in importing Greenland Glacier Water after all the aquifers in the formerly habitable places like New York are poisonous from the fracking.

[@user-em4kb3gm8g]

Lol. No matter who is a stooge for corporations in the White House, Trump or Biden, in the US Congress, or state capitals their policies are nearly identical

[@sl-lz3dw]

Yep! In a land where money (capital) is "political speech" capital is the state (and deep reservoirs of capital are deep state if there, indeed, is any deep state). Getting on the ballot is next to impossible without the support of capital. Then there is the fact that six news conglomerates control almost all of the "information" (more accurately labeled propaganda) disseminated and treated as true, pertinent and complete. Those conglomerates ARE capital applied.

[@bully3808]

@user-em wrote "their policies are nearly identical" --------------- Dude/Dudette ... you are blinder than a cave rat with a walking stick. If you can't tell the difference, then it would be like trying to talk to a house pet.

[@loisk6186]

I love Josh Fox's simple, clear ideas: 1) People should be paid subsidies to ride the subway or a bike -- It makes sense economically, is technically feasible, and unlike fossil fuel subsidies, is socially desirable 2) We could EASILY switch to renewable energy as proven historically with our easy technology switches to cell phones, streamed music, etc. 3) The reason governments don't take climate action is because the fossil fuel industry became THE MOST powerful industry on earth and stopped it..

[@drakekoefoed1642]

a very easy way to subsidize subways: collecting fares costs most of the fare. so simply stop charging. poor people will go do more small jobs.

[@orifox]

@@drakekoefoed1642 Love this! Even better- pay for people to ride! (cap it at twice a day!)

[@rogerstarkey5390]

"3" WHY do you think the attitude aimed at China strongly resembles that applied to Tesla? .

[@darploin5071]

Another way China can get around to it it's descended into Mexico that have Mexico classified as used cars and then sell them in the United States for about $25000 In which it will probably avoid the tariff because it's probably on new Chinese electric cars not used one

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Thanks for the laugh!

[@adolfodias1681]

Tarifs are for " chokens" ...

[@darploin5071]

China should go ahead and subsidize their electric car market so even with the tariffs it'll be far cheaper to buy Chinese electric car that's how you fight back also then putting a 100% tariffs on all European automobiles should be a good retaliation

[@rogerstarkey5390]

China won't have to. . China will contact India, the Far East (Philippines, Malaysia, etc) Africa (ALL Of Africa), Brazil.... (At least 6 Billion people) and say "Who wants an OPPORTUNITY?" . They will help ALL of those regions transition from Fossil Fuel with Energy systems, Vehicles, High speed rail infrastructure (passenger and freight) state of the art communication, and other projects including desert greening (THAT'S a good one!!) Those regions will move from "3rd world", to "1st world". Guess who's going the other way?

[@dimitristsagdis7340]

The Chinese can come and make them in Europe or in NAFTA - some are already coming. This is exactly what the Chinese did to European and American firms which forced them to set up factories in China. And to take Chinese partners in Joint Ventures. Europe and the US/NAFTA doesn't require to have local partners. Why aren't you mentioning this?

[@chad9017]

"Find one country in the world that doesn't subsidize their top companies." But it's unfair when USA's competitors do.

[@jacquesvincelette6692]

The global racket never worried about fairness.

[@falsificationism]

I forget why we don't like Josh Fox, but I remember him being pretty untrustworthy for some reason. I remember unfollowing him with a pretty good deal of conviction after the Bernie campaign though. Why do we not like this guy again?

[@falsificationism]

@@XXmtdna Why so defensive? Influencers abuse the trust they've cultivated with their audiences regularly. If you can't respond to my query, that's fine.

[@orifox]

I suspect that some part of the huge fossil fuel sponsored smear campaign is responsible. I promise you, there's no reason not to like me!

[@darploin5071]

I wonder which European westernized nation we'll join the bricks nations because of United States Economic shenanigans

[@rogerstarkey5390]

I really hope it's UK! (Yes, I am)

[@wolftoe1772]

Fuck fracking!.. “but” Our electric grid is 100yrs old. It can’t handle everyone having electric cars.

[@moneycologne]

@wollftoe the subsidies these fossil fuel guys get could pay for that and mind you that we also pay these guys for power.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@wolftoe1772 . Remember the reports of potential "Brownouts" in California a few years ago? Did you see the incorrect reports saying "Don't charge your EV"? . How about the (actual) request "please don't use power (especially Aircon) at peak times? . (EV owners said "no problem! I'll adjust my charging time to;off peak") . Then there's the report which documented the numerous times when the first "Tesla Virtual Power Plants" (Home Power walls connected to the grid) PREVENTED Brownouts during that crisis. (Google it) . Grid condition? It's quite simple. If it can power INDUSTRY during the day, there's PLENTY of capacity to charge EVs *overnight*... When industry is generally "turned off". . Now, if it CAN'T power industry during the day, that's NOT an "EV problem". That's Systemic failure to maintain the Grid.

[@user-dj6hu9gq4t]

Solar panels are an easy solution.

[@Nine-Signs]

Ah Josh Fox. A man wo on serval occasions has gone to bat for capitalism despite his prior works. For the first time I think I will skip this episode given there is nothing he can say that I don't already know and much I could say that he either does not know or totally rejects. To him, much like Mckibben, capitalism simply needs regulating properly via democrats and all will be well. i.e. a completely useless position of hypocrisy believing all climatological / ecological problems can be solved with technology and regulations. ... Sufficed to say... physics disagrees.

[@jeffherringa4709]

I am a school librarian who works at 5 schools a week (1 school a day). I travel at least 15-20 miles round-trip each day during the school year. Although my city has a good public bussing system, not all their routes go past my schools. Biking to work for me would be exhausting, unless it's a motorcycle. Just my opinion here.

[@Nemesisnxt]

So high taxes are bad?

[@JohnBeerschoten]

High taxes have a negative impact on competitiveness.

[@bobcornwell403]

No. You have to change the rules of the game of getting elected. Until this happens, no real, lasting change is going to happen. What you say about tariffs is true. But you don't tell the whole story. Interview any UAW member and ask them if they support the tariff against Chinese ev imports. Perhaps a 100% tariff is too much. But some sort of tariff is likely called for for 3 reasons: 1.) The Chinese have a decade head start on us with this technology. If we let them flood the market with their probably superior products, there is a good chance the domestic auto industry will go bankrupt before it can change. 2.) Our power grid probably cannot handle a large percentage of EVs at this time. 3.) China has a huge advantage over us in labor costs. Just try to set up a union in China. Just try. The truth that you don't want to ever admit, professor Wolf, is that China is a profoundly un-free place. It now lives under one-man rule. And please try to keep in mind, Professor, what "free trade", over the last 30 years has got us. It got us a housing crisis that was so predictable that I predicted it myself over 10 years before it happened. It has led to millions of broken lives and destroyed communities, as decent paying jobs left our shores and ultimately ended up in China. The problem I have with economists is that they all seem wedded to one political agenda or another. And for this reason, I don't think any of them are all rhat rational.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

It's not "getting elected" that's the primary issue. . The problem is that "Contributions" dictate policy. . Until you lose the "Lobby system" that will (largely) remain the case. . The problem? Those who benefit from that system are the same individuals who benefit from its existence. You're "unlikely " to get the required majority to "kill the goose which lays the golden egg" . Similarly, New potential candidates who may have the ideals, tenacity and Integrity to make that vote are "vetted" by those in the system and are thus unlikely to reach the position which allows them the opportunity. ("Black Ball" for the win)

[@rogerstarkey5390]

"1" "The Chinese have a decade start". Wrong. This is a multi decade issue which was started by "the West". . It was nothing to do with "free trade" . It WAS an attempt to exploit ("Capitalise") over China. . But not only China. By bringing the cheap components, eventually complete products home and charging "normal" prices, Companies (and Government?) Capitalised over the home consumer. . But . Back in China, they *increased* wages and living standards, invested to build infrastructure and removed huge numbers from poverty (work in progress, but moving in the right direction) Compare the US and Chinese Railway systems. . They had a "plan" and stuck to it without the 4 year "rinse , dismantle, repeat" political cycle. . The long term plan is the key. (Remember Tesla Master Plan 1, 2006?..... Ended with the phrase "Don't tell anyone"....... That worked!) . Side note. Saw a VERY interesting report today on "Inside China Business" (YTube) . US Expat, veteran, no BS. . Detailed the reliance on Chinese electronics in US "military systems" (weapons). . Hilarious! . Virtually no high tech US weapon, or weapon platform operates without Chinese tech. (We're talking up to and including Aircraft Carriers) . So, start a war with China and you'd better be quick! (Plus you'd better hope they didn't build in a "kill switch")

[@user-dj6hu9gq4t]

I have no sympathy for american auto makers. The chevy volt is a joke. They had the same opportunities as China. This only shows’Merica’s oligarchy for what it is.

[@SlavaT]

good plan, dude, reliable as a Swiss watch... If I got paid for every joint I smoked, I wouldn't have to go to work 😉

[@GerryNottingham]

You suggested that , not the professor.

[@NoName-di1ug]

Внимание все кто это читает. Профессор скатился в социальную демократию, все "левые" о которых он говорит, скоро будут призывать рабочих на империвлистическую войну, за капитал и на его стороне. Читайте Леннина, его работы о социализме и войне точно укажут на неправоту европейских левых.

[@bully3808]

Go back to your Fox News before you miss Hannity. They do have Hannity in Moscow, don't they?

[@NoName-di1ug]

​​@@bully3808Ты хоть читал, то что я написал? Не все кто не согласен с вами, республиканец. Если так слепо следовать за кем то, можно оказаться в лагере противников. Читай Ленина он сейчас актуален для всех нас, как никогда.

[@user-yg3yb6gk5f]

NYC people do not want to pay congestion pricing. We don't agree we the people don't want to pay for what rich pollution companies did

[@user-ir1hv6ph6c]

As long as we continue to rely on the two party system and electoral politics, little will change. The only difference between the two major political parties in the US is in their rhetoric. Republicans are more honest. Josh Fox provides numerous examples of how the Democrats are complicit in destroying the planet but then he proposes/advocates mass participation in electoral politics as a solution to the environmental disaster the two-party system has created. (Doing the same thing and expecting different results?) Meaningful and substantial change will only come if/when we revolutionize our undemocratic political system/s. We must have more major parties--parties that actually represent the interests of the 99%, our planet and other species. We must end private/corporate funding of political campaigns. We must institute term limits, ranked voting, candidate diversity--including CLASS, address class inequalities, and so on. We should stop deluding ourselves and stop wasting our time and energy on participation in the two-party system and electoral politics. I am not convinced that renewable energy can meet our current energy needs. We must radically reduce our current consumption and waste-production levels. If everyone on the planet consumed and produced waste at the rate of US-Americans, we would need 5.5 planets to sustain this level of consumption and waste production. I don't know where/how we are going to get the other 4.5.

[@bully3808]

You wrote "The only difference between the two major political parties in the US is in their rhetoric. Republicans are more honest." ---------- Thanks for providing readers with one of the most ignorants comments ever posted on KZbin. The fact that you can't see the vast difference between the two parties just because one side isn't perfect shows how little you've read. Go back to Fox News before you miss Hannity.

[@TennesseeJed]

We can have a solar/wind civilization, just not THIS civilization.

[@douglaswong6975]

$8 millions per minute? $11,500 millions per hour, $276,480 millions per day, 100,915,200 millions per year? Are you blowing up a balloon?

[@volta2aire]

A 100% renewable energy is not possible because of how it consumes more materials and mining than we have. Simon Michaux (Geological Survey of Finland) advocates for nuclear fission energy and storing renewable energy in the form of powdered iron metal. The powdered iron is seen as a coal replacement for powering industries. Iron is easier to recycle and more abundant.

[@volta2aire]

AI restatement: The comment you've provided touches on several important points regarding renewable energy, resource limitations, and alternative energy solutions. Let me restate and expand on these ideas: 1. Limitations of 100% renewable energy: The comment suggests that a fully renewable energy system is not feasible due to the extensive material requirements and mining operations it would necessitate. This argument is based on the idea that the production of renewable energy infrastructure (such as solar panels, wind turbines, and batteries) requires significant amounts of raw materials, some of which may be scarce or difficult to extract in the quantities needed for a global transition. 2. Simon Michaux's perspective: Simon Michaux, associated with the Geological Survey of Finland, proposes a mixed approach to energy production and storage. His recommendations include: a) Nuclear fission energy: This suggestion likely stems from nuclear power's ability to provide reliable baseload power with low carbon emissions. Nuclear energy also has a high energy density, meaning it requires less land and raw materials per unit of energy produced compared to some renewable sources. b) Renewable energy storage using powdered iron: This innovative approach involves storing excess renewable energy in the form of powdered iron metal. The idea is to use renewable electricity to reduce iron oxide (rust) to pure iron powder through electrolysis. This iron powder can then be burned as a fuel source, similar to coal, but with several advantages. 3. Advantages of powdered iron as an energy storage medium: a) Coal replacement: Iron powder can be used as a direct replacement for coal in industrial processes, potentially allowing industries to maintain existing infrastructure while reducing carbon emissions. b) Recyclability: Unlike fossil fuels, iron can be easily recycled. After burning, the resulting iron oxide can be collected and reduced back to iron powder using renewable electricity, creating a closed-loop system. c) Abundance: Iron is one of the most abundant elements in the Earth's crust, making it a more sustainable choice compared to some of the rarer elements required for battery production. Expanding on these ideas: The debate around 100% renewable energy systems is complex and ongoing. While renewable energy sources like solar and wind have made significant strides in recent years, concerns about intermittency, energy storage, and material requirements remain. The proposal to use nuclear fission as part of the energy mix is not without controversy. While nuclear power can provide low-carbon baseload energy, concerns about safety, waste management, and public perception persist. However, advancements in nuclear technology, such as small modular reactors and improved safety systems, may address some of these issues. The concept of using powdered iron as an energy storage medium and fuel source is an intriguing one. This approach could potentially solve several problems simultaneously: 1. It provides a means of long-term energy storage for renewable sources. 2. It offers a pathway for decarbonizing industrial processes that currently rely on coal. 3. It utilizes a relatively abundant and recyclable resource. However, implementing such a system would require significant infrastructure changes and further research to optimize the process and ensure its economic viability. It's worth noting that a comprehensive approach to future energy systems will likely involve a mix of solutions, including improved energy efficiency, diverse renewable sources, advanced storage technologies, and possibly next-generation nuclear power. The optimal mix will vary depending on local resources, existing infrastructure, and technological advancements.

[@KGopidas]

Did anybody build up altrnatives?to fossil fuels?

[@earthsystem]

I’m really worried about the vitriol that you’re spewing. Are you OK? Sometimes tariffs are necessary to boost manufacturing paid for, for example, by an infrastructure project designed to help shorten supply chains and improve national security in an emergency when global shipping shuts down.

[@dziadsmolarz8574]

u didn't even watched the video

[@jimbranaghan1228]

No........he's not okay. Way,way oversimplified.

[@GerryNottingham]

But is that what's going on? It almost seems like it's being used simply as leverage to get the Chinese government to do something we want and Wal-Mart and Amazon benefitted greatly from Chinese manufacturers for decades now low income Americans could really use affordable cars right about now.

[@demonridera]

No need to shed any tears for Chinese. US exerted hard and soft power to have it's way. China wants to have a free ride on moral high ground. That exists only in haughty minds, the practical world operates on might. Russia is far stronger because they can fight. China is a simple shopkeeper and it must pay protection money by tariffs or otherwise. If you can't protect yourself, be prepared to pay for shelter

[@bully3808]

That comment proves that you have a mind about as complex as ... a desert cactus.

[@jgalt308]

Again, you said last week there were 200 EV manufacturers in China... they can't all be the cheapest... and they can't all be the best... Again, you said that because it's capitalism, they are in competition. ( consumer gets lower prices ) Of course, because it's capitalism, they are also exploiting their workers. Therefore, the tiny group of people at the TOP get all the benefits. So you want to support that tiny group and that exploitation? What you don't have is any proof of any actual quality...but you make the claim anyway. And all the developed economies protected their industries with tariffs and guarded their technological secrets. Also, none of the workers making those EV's can afford to buy them. So this sounds like a job for CO-OP MAN...and YOU should go and help them sort it out. Of course, the CCP ( that tiny group of people at the TOP ) might have a problem with THAT and YOU!!!! But like Mother Theresa, you would be a SAINT...having actually done something other than produce a lot of hot air every week.

[@KGopidas]

It sounds like mk gandhi with England?

[@KGopidas]

Hiowpe you would kindly adlress cent per cent renewable

[@KGopidas]

Could you please cover governent subsidies on education in west?

[@KGopidas]

Chinese are better at human resources

[@KGopidas]

Increase in duty suggests abandoning of hope and faith in narket forces