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@robertspeedwagon9823 жыл бұрын
"Dearest Astraea.... I Have failed you" - Last words of Garl Vinland
@georgehouliaras72393 жыл бұрын
"Dearest Astraea... I have failed you"
@robertspeedwagon9823 жыл бұрын
@@georgehouliaras7239 Foc, I'm gonna correct it thx
@georgehouliaras72393 жыл бұрын
@@robertspeedwagon982 There is no need bro. You can keep it as it is. I'm not the Accurate Quotes Police XD lol.
@AscendedPOT3 жыл бұрын
Speedwagoooooon
@Carcosa-3 жыл бұрын
Thanks , Speedwagon
@2tooful3 жыл бұрын
In the remake the music doesn’t start until you start fighting , you’re the boss
@DettolObsessed3 жыл бұрын
In a tiny narrow pathway. WE WANT A HUGE BATTLEFIELD WITH RAGE AND THINGS FLYING, and THINGS SHOOTING AND SPARTAAAAAAAAAAA. I really miss playing the game now.
@thedapperdolphin15903 жыл бұрын
And one that never really dies. He has to keep fighting you over and over again until one of you actually gives in.
@manuelmateo33923 жыл бұрын
It's unfortunately not as simple.
@l-shadow17753 жыл бұрын
When you was the boss all along
@mac1bc3 жыл бұрын
That actually was a bit disappointing to me when I got to that area. Also in 3-1 you don't hear the lady singing until you are close to her cell. Other than that it was a great remake, even if it felt a bit easier than the original.
@ProphetofTables3 жыл бұрын
"Demon Vanquished" But why am I still standing up?
@AveLukas423 жыл бұрын
Well, there are babies with the plague all around her
@marksketeer55533 жыл бұрын
@@AveLukas42 not her fault.
@McconneIIRet3 жыл бұрын
Literally copied from the Astraea OST video original Demon's Souls version. Shameless.
@madathmdlla3 жыл бұрын
@@McconneIIRet they're are the same person
@GhostPandaStorm3 жыл бұрын
It probably should’ve said “Demon Lives. What a magnificent Demon you are.”
@emperorl24323 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm calling this version of the theme Garl Vinland's song
@iexist27863 жыл бұрын
Yeah this time the theme is about Garl
@maximiliansinigr35053 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda sad they didn't leave the music *after* you kill Garl. It's even more depressing than the OG track.
@user-ff7kr4jr8b3 жыл бұрын
The saddest boss fight in that series...
@SRVietnam44753 жыл бұрын
@@alchemyjug2923 You misspelled Gehrman, Gael and Gwyn
@GhostPandaStorm3 жыл бұрын
@@alchemyjug2923 Sif and Astraea shall play in the Boss of Sadness Bowl
@Aaronreacher3 жыл бұрын
Vendrick?
@GhostPandaStorm3 жыл бұрын
@@Aaronreacher Yeah, that’s an underrated pick. Probably because it’s Dark Souls II (which I loved).
@gregchvany80153 жыл бұрын
@@alchemyjug2923 Just ‘cause it’s a dog dying doesn’t mean it’s sad, and yes I’m aware of the lore but it’s still not sad.
@ghostmist63 жыл бұрын
You were the boss. You were the bad guy in their story. And the Protector failed his Maiden - because of you. Beautiful.
@moonlight-qr6px3 жыл бұрын
So Garl sees a health bar of: Weednose, Slayer of demons
@HiCZoK3 жыл бұрын
Nah. They were idiots
@themagikarp96763 жыл бұрын
so this is the player theme ?
@leonthesleepy2 жыл бұрын
@@themagikarp9676 technically yes haha. This is the song garl hears when he sees us
@loughtthenot2 жыл бұрын
Demon sympathizer are just as bad as demons, and thots are nothing without their simps
@patfuryy3 жыл бұрын
This Theme is the one that makes me say: "I wish things were different..."
@noodle77253 жыл бұрын
"...but they ain't"
@TheNaktrah3 жыл бұрын
"We live humble lives... leave us be..."
@Khaled-bd1pl3 жыл бұрын
“You abandoned us long ago what rights do you have ?!?”
@diegomeringer39533 жыл бұрын
dum dum astraea she kills random people
@pippofranco8793 жыл бұрын
sorry, mate, just need that demon's soul
@GhostPandaStorm3 жыл бұрын
But but...you have a Demon Soul and the fog wall is blocking the exit
@David_Axelord3 жыл бұрын
"Bitch, you're helping a giant monster destroy the world!"
@unlimitedisme3 жыл бұрын
i do like this version but it would be nice if they did something similar to RE2 where you had the option to switch between original and remake soundtracks
@JP-my7fu3 жыл бұрын
True
@narukami63643 жыл бұрын
Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition had a similar option too.
@Grayfox823 жыл бұрын
It would be perfection
@Yeetomato3 жыл бұрын
yes hard agree
@mr.negative86243 жыл бұрын
You can but you have to buy the Delux version
@huskytzu77093 жыл бұрын
**epic music playing** Me: “well time to shoot arrows from a safe distance”
@kaimerry15873 жыл бұрын
or flame toss if you have spice and patience.
@glori0usoce3 жыл бұрын
Or turn him into Champion Gundyr 2.0 and parry his ass across the arena.
@funny-freshchips16842 жыл бұрын
Or chain backstab him with that stupid big backstab hitbox of Demon Souls
@AMubher3 жыл бұрын
A perfect blend of Maiden Astraea sorrow and purity, with Garl Vinland heroism.
@DRMENTAL10003 жыл бұрын
what is heroic about protecting a demon ?
@AMubher3 жыл бұрын
@@DRMENTAL1000 We don't have to agree with someone to recognize their good traits. Garl is hero because he sacrifices everything for his beliefs. Astraea isn't a demon. She uses a demon's soul to help the poor creatures of the valley who were abandoned by her God. She has pure intentions.
@dungeaterfancam3 жыл бұрын
Idk if it’s true but I heard people say she was just delusional in thinking she could heal them when the inhabitants of the valley are basically just rotting undeads, and Garl wasn’t actually as devout as he seemed, but was basically unintentionally enslaved by Astraea with the power of the demon soul. Haven’t played the remake though, so don’t know if there’s any new lore disproving this
@berry59743 жыл бұрын
@@dungeaterfancam I don't know if there is any lore proving what you just said? So I don't think there is anything to disprove either. Garl chose to stay with Astraea on his own accord. Garl is her most trusted bodyguard and companion, and they might even be childhood friends, but regardless I don't think that's the case.
@edwinvanderhaeghen22213 жыл бұрын
@@dungeaterfancam What you're referencing is the chit chat from the dirty lady. However the dirty lady is shown to be an unreliabale narrator. She's jealous of all the attention astraea get's while in the past she used to be the talk of the town. Maiden Astraea had good intentions and she did ease the suffering around her. Garl Vinland was a devout friend/possible lover.
@neonblighter10953 жыл бұрын
You know what, I like both versions.
@SirScratchcock3 жыл бұрын
Now that I’ve played, I agree this one just sounds better
@neonblighter10953 жыл бұрын
@@SirScratchcock now if only I was able to get a ps5
@GhostPandaStorm3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, both are great. This one is definitely amazing. This and Storm King’s themes are my favorites in the remake.
@sarou34573 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@debateyounoimgoingtoethery36763 жыл бұрын
Sure but the old one is better
@Kapita_Lismus3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the dynamic part of the music. The iconic Astraea tune plays as you kill her before it turns into silence. Really good presentation.
@JumalaPlays2 жыл бұрын
@superc37 Ok thanks for telling us how our opinions should be kind sir!
@bruh-sz3wy2 жыл бұрын
@superc37 yes it is. Stop being blinded by nostalgia.
@Brother_O4TS2 жыл бұрын
I first heard this theme when fighting Archdruid Caimar from the DS3 Convergence mod. I scoured the entirety of KZbin for a full version until I saw someone's comment saying this is where it was from originally. Very beautiful piece right here
@gamertames349 Жыл бұрын
This music suited that fight so well istg
@Wolfy4meh3 жыл бұрын
I find it amazing that in both the original and the remake - even with how different they sound, they still manage to convey the same feeling of you being the "bad guy" with desperation lurking in the notes... Great piece.
@haydeng35413 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like the original was sadder, but this is darker
@the_furry_inside_your_walls6392 жыл бұрын
@@haydeng3541 I like to think that the original is Astraea's theme while this one is Vinland's theme.
@Tulip_bip Жыл бұрын
desperation is a good word for it. it's very triumphant sounding but it feels intense at the same time, like a hero taking his last stand
@unironicallyesteban20653 жыл бұрын
The tone of the original is by far the most fitting, but that doesn't stop this from being a genuinely beautiful song.
@ardaoguzhan81813 жыл бұрын
It is an amazing ost no doubt. But this ost doesnt fit astreas personality.They should give this ost to another boss it doesnt really fit astrea having an epic theme her theme was suppossed to be sad dramatic and upsetting
@Karma-wb7et3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Though honestly if you ask me, Alex Roe's remix of the original fits just as gud, if not then better than the original.
@georgehouliaras72393 жыл бұрын
@@ardaoguzhan8181 It does fit Garl though. A knight's last stand to protect his beloved.
@ags85073 жыл бұрын
@@georgehouliaras7239 it isnt garl bossfight tho, its astraea, thats the mistake here, with this soundtrack
@georgehouliaras72393 жыл бұрын
@@ags8507 Technically yes but let's be honest, we all know Garl is the real boss here.
@RickyG932 жыл бұрын
This boss and soundtrack is the most magnificent part of the game from an artistic and atmospheric standpoint. The Valley of Defilement the most depraved place in all of Demon's Souls, yet its Archdemon is the most pure of heart and this soundtrack compliments that perfectly.
@connerfisher56272 жыл бұрын
Finally gonna have enough to get a ps5 with my refund can’t wait to go thro this game this and sekiro are the only 2 I have not completed in the series
@Junivi3 жыл бұрын
god this theme is so good
@xeno63383 жыл бұрын
Yes,indeed
@d0m22883 жыл бұрын
Right? Made the fight feel very emotional. And obviously I was then compelled to find the song here on KZbin.
@asongforthemostbeautifulwo64763 жыл бұрын
i think it is one of the most beautiful pieces of music i've ever heard, no joke
@Eclxpse__5 ай бұрын
Definitely
@koscheiivanovisch45403 жыл бұрын
I've discovered: This version has the constant melody with the strings (don't know the instrument but sounds like a harpsichord) in 4/4 (8 steps), whereas the original was in a 7/4, they added one step to complete the melody in a fancier way but the original had the 7/4 to make it sound more unnerving. You can hear it have a double bounce on the same note when it goes down, while the original had no two notes repeated.
@GreatL2433 жыл бұрын
I cant unhear that now and its driving me even more crayz
@dorkmoonblade43153 жыл бұрын
I'm curious what happens at 2:39? It sounds like the melody is somehow expanded upon within that last stretch of the song but I don't know music theory so I don't know how.
@koscheiivanovisch45403 жыл бұрын
@@dorkmoonblade4315 'Tis just more arrangements that give an epic tone to the track, but yeah, for epic music like this the 4/4 or sometimes 3/4 is more convenient. Maybe they wanted to remaster it in an epic way and that's why they changed it to 4/4. Even if that's the case, although the original melody was in a 7/4, the rest of the song was in 4/4 and with each 4 steps, the melody created more and more dissonance until a point that it had to change to 4/4 once before returning to 7/4 to keep it nice. The female choir there serves to emphasize the woman (Astraea) and give the piece a sense of overall progressiveness. I like it a lot but when you know the game's lore the original fits better with the atmosphere and story.
@jkreincarnation3 жыл бұрын
thanks for pointing this out as I didn't know the correct terminology but did hear the difference
@andrecarvalho82443 жыл бұрын
Noticed the same when trying to learn this. It's so confusing trying to play the original, but as a composition it absolutely works.
@Rollbrand370 Жыл бұрын
I never felt so heartbroken after this fight. And what makes it even more sad, is how easy it was.
@Altair_20803 жыл бұрын
People saying how “this doesn’t fit” but honestly I personally love this, you really feel more of Garls side of it through out the song, his final stand, his final task to protect astraea with his life. The choir is the sorrow and cries of the pain and the bang of the drums is the weight of his shield and will to fulfill his task. But when you kill him and you approach astrea it changes into more of a tone of her, showing how their humble lives is now to an end, no hope for them, only despair and death. I personally feel that every instrument in this song perfectly showed every detail of them. From beginning to finish
@Goodbutevilgenius3 жыл бұрын
The problem with focusing on Garl is... he's trash. He's a weak opponent and he doesn't last long, so the heroic direction doesn't just fit the original mood poorly - it doesn't fit any mood the battle could possibly provide.
@barry42933 жыл бұрын
@@Goodbutevilgenius "doesn't fit any mood the battle could provide" Literally the whole comment u just replied to details how it fits but ok.
@Goodbutevilgenius3 жыл бұрын
@@barry4293 No, it doesn't detail that. But what can I expect from a guy who likes his own comments.
@lopeshick96073 жыл бұрын
@@Goodbutevilgenius yes it does? U might not agree which is fine but the whole comment is detailing that, so idk what ur talking about.
@barry42933 жыл бұрын
@@Goodbutevilgenius take off ur nostalgia goggles and actually read the fucking comment. The whole paragraph is about why the theme fits. But hey, gotta keep complaining about the perfect high quality remake of a beloved classic because it slightly changed some things
@ecallahan99132 жыл бұрын
God... this is one of the best tracks in the series. Didn't think anything could come close to my favorite Bloodborne tracks. RIP Astrea and Vinland. They died so humanity could live.
@ValentinMugabo Жыл бұрын
Flamelurker ain’t bad too
@NokoFace2 жыл бұрын
Both are good. The original is sorrow. You're, in their eyes, some monster coming to kill them and damn all of those innocents to an existence of suffering. The new one is more bitter, and heroic. It's Garl Vinland's final stand to protect his maiden. Which is emphasized by how it only kicks in when fighting him, and shifts to a new song when he dies.
@zyffe2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis.
@Mattroid99 Жыл бұрын
The demon is Astraea, not Garl. It makes zero sense to be his theme
@purvdragon-sensei Жыл бұрын
@@Mattroid99 Lmao, getting tired of these Stretch Armstrong high school level analyses.
@Asphyx129 ай бұрын
@@Mattroid99 It makes 100 sense that this is Garl's theme do you not hear triumphant and despairing note this song play?
@Mattroid999 ай бұрын
@@Asphyx12 Still makes zero sense. Why is it Garl's theme? The boss is Astraea. He's literally nothing more than an obstacle
@rdu2393 жыл бұрын
More like fittingly, Garl Vindland's theme, his heroic last stand in futility
@killerking23463 жыл бұрын
Maiden Astraea of the Astral Clocktower
@orben-amos61723 жыл бұрын
god why
@dungeaterfancam3 жыл бұрын
When you reach your hand to take the soul after she commits demon slain she suddenly pulls out a katana and pwns you with her fresh dex build
@diegomeringer39533 жыл бұрын
waifu battle astraea friede maria emma who will win
@orben-amos61723 жыл бұрын
@Alâ good sir i will not
@KhangNguyen-um4rg3 жыл бұрын
Don’t give her any idea. I don’t think her busting out a blood katana and a pistol is a very good idea
@Rakshael2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I took Astraea to be a poignant example of hubris and self-centered morality, ultimately divorcing her from any real faith. It's exceptionally subtle, owing to her demure manners and her ostentation of helping the denizens of the valley- but in doing so she has not only embraced the heart of what corrupts them but even sustained it. She's completely self-deceived in that she feels they've been abandoned by God and that she is the valley's only hope- but when she abandoned the cause of ridding the Old One's influence on the Valley, that very act itself condemned the valley to its fate. As an Archdemon now herself, she helps no one, only continues to lament her own situation and the destitution of those around her, wallowing in death and decay she has perpetuated as she is fed souls from her servants. And Garl the Fool, blinded by lust and self-righteousness, defends her to his dying breath in a shallow mockery of love, caring only for his own relationship with her, and not that his maiden has become the embodiment of evil. It's honestly despicable and the player ending their facade is more justified than putting down anyone, except Allant of course. Hell, her name is a reference to the Greek virgin goddess of justice, innocence, purity and precision, but it's also a cleverly disguised way to imply she's gone "Astray" from her path.
@Kriosaivak2 жыл бұрын
Though I haven’t been able to play Demon’s Souls myself, so I haven’t been able to read the lore and come to my own conclusions, I just wanted to say this is very well worded. :)
@TheDustyForest2 жыл бұрын
I do agree with you, but I feel there is another tragic aspect to her story that you might be overlooking a little. There are a lot of hints in character dialogue and item descriptions and so forth that their ‘God’ is in fact the Old One. It seems to me that Astraea herself slowly reached this conclusion and understood that this was the only means by which she could help the denizens of the valley.
@hazard042 жыл бұрын
Very well put.
@paulbanian92162 жыл бұрын
Great comment! People miss this even though she kills herself without standing for what she believes is right. It's despair disguised as righteousness - and the valley reflects that.
@Can_O_Crayola2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDustyForest Garl supports this as well, saying that they were abandoned a long time ago and that you had no right to come there now. Astraea is much like Allant in that she understood the truth of the world, but ultimately chose a different path than simple nihilism. She would no longer uphold the lies of the faith if it meant people like those in the Valley of Defilement would suffer. If there's any indication of how delusional the faith is, Saint Urbain has no inkling of the truth behind his "God", even down to the last minute when the Old One wakes, and doesn't believe that Astraea would ever leave the church. Even if it meant becoming an Archdemon, she *would* help the poor souls of the Valley. If anything, it's a sad example of the truth behind the world of Demon's Souls. Anyone who knows the truth either goes mad with delusions of power like Sage Freke, or loses hope and believes there's no point to life at all if God had indeed abandoned them like Astraea. In a weird way, it paints the Monumentals as just as delusional for thinking that sealing away the Old One will do any good. The "good" ending even admits that there will be those who hunger for the Soul Arts again and that this will just happen over and over. Fight poison with poison, indeed.
@lolno84063 жыл бұрын
I love this version, i rly enjoyed demons souls remake (played till NG plus 5, unlocked penetrators amor and platinum) and i won t forget the first time i entered the boss fight and that song started.... So epic. THe sounddesign in the entire game was awesome!
@sladejosephwilson23007 ай бұрын
I prefer the original theme because it's more sorrowful. But this theme suits Garl more and it sounds good
@Grayfox823 жыл бұрын
2:40 sounds gorgeous! That voice!
@henryfarris96413 жыл бұрын
Best part of the song right there. So haunting yet beautiful
@Anything716anything3 жыл бұрын
“Go forth Garl Vinland. May you be unharmed.”
@Zelisius3 жыл бұрын
Loved the original version, but I also love this one, too. It's just more fitting for Garl and that makes sense to me, since he is the one we actually fight. Either way, both versions are great!
@okayoni63423 жыл бұрын
I love this comment because it describes how I feel perfectly. I feel like the original was a good theme for Maiden Astrea herself; while this one is extremely fitting for Garl. Thank you for this.
@Thejigholeman2 жыл бұрын
the original was great and simple, this is a bit too... Dr.Who
@odinslostson28753 жыл бұрын
Oh God, i finished the 5th archstone today... I was waiting for this boss and music since I bought the game! Bluepoint nailed it... I almost cried. May you be unharmed😢
@xeno63383 жыл бұрын
Astrea:go forth Garl Vinland.May you be- wtf was that a parry?A oNE ShOt???!!!
@cereallord41033 жыл бұрын
@@xeno6338 Dragon bone smasheeeeeeer
@xeno63383 жыл бұрын
Slayer of demons:oh,hi Astrea!Sorry,but i really need your soul because,you know,to save the world and stuff so... Astrea:waitwaitwaitwaitwait,I won't be smashed by this giant fricking sword,killing myself will be way less painful.wait a Second...aaaaaaaaAAAAAAHHHHaaaaaah *dies* SoD:...ok...so...yeah...If It is this way...
@jake47932 жыл бұрын
I listened to the original song many times before playing the remake. Absolutely incredible song, imbued with a massive sense of duty. I made the mistake of thinking it was a covenant song, like in ds1. I was so excited to find her in the world and meet her as an npc. Playing the remake and finding out I had to kill her and Vinland was truly heartbreaking.
@TheXeneron3 жыл бұрын
So I quite like this, even though the tone is very different. The original makes you sit and think about what you're doing. It's shown from the perspective of the player. It's meant to be uncomfortable and questioning. This theme is much more defiant. It really, really feels like this theme is played from the perspective of Garl. Down in the muck, protecting his dearest Astraea, against this monstrous, powerful slayer of demons. He makes his last stand. If you watch the actual fight as well I think the visual benefits from how they time the music more than any other fight in this game. There is the opening cinematic we all know. "Go forth, Garl Vinland." The music swells up slightly through that opening cinematic, lasting from the beginning of the song up until about 0:40. However, once that cinematic ends, the music stops almost completely. Almost complete silence except for the ambience of the moans of the damned around you as Astraea begs out to you while you walk into the room "Leave us, slayer of demons. This is a sanctuary for the lost and wretched. There is nothing here for you to pillage or plunder. Please, leave quietly." If you wait long enough and listen hard enough, there are some suspenseful low strings, but that's about all. As you walk further down, Garl blocks you way. "You will not turn back, will you?" We know the lines. After speaking as you step toward him, he strikes out, the true hero of the encounter - not the player, but the lone knight standing against the inevitable. This all-powerful slayer of demons. He has no chance, but he will fight till his last breath to protect his dearest Astraea. As that first slam of his hammer strikes, 0:44 kicks in. This somber, defiant march that swells as Garl continues to fight to his last breath. That is what I truly hear in this theme. Defiance, inevitability, sacrifice. It's a different perspective. It's a different take on the original theme. It tells a different story. But I still find it magnificent. EDIT: Everyone should take a look at how the fight plays out with the music before condemning it. This is my favorite because Lobos really blasts the music, which I think works well for this fight. There is some great work done with the timing of the music. It should take you to the correct timestamp but it's at 6:37:30 if for some reason the link doesn't take you there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoe2o2OXaK96etU
@Keln023 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! I was sceptical at first... But I enjoy it a lot in the end...
@sebastianoleksa3 жыл бұрын
This, this so much!
@xeno63383 жыл бұрын
This music gets too much hate,isn't even funny
@christopheryanez3 жыл бұрын
@@xeno6338 the elitist community of souls games will never be pleased. I prefer the original over this but I’ll be damned if I’m some stupid jackass saying “lol garbage ass theme, nothing like the original. Ruined the whole theme of the original, a complete disgrace to the original. The original is far superior than this garbage. Even though it’s a remake this is by far the most soulless work done in the franchise and isn’t a half assed remaster like how I wanted it to be” and so much other bs you wouldn’t believe. I prefer themes in the OG OST and I prefer some themes in the Remake over the original. Both are just amazing, it sucks that people can’t appreciate the hard work that was put into both masterpieces.
@Xunizal3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I never thought of it like that. That's an interesting perspective on this theme.
@YourDevastator3 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal track. I didn't want to finish the fight cause I wanted the song to continue lol
@jonathanbungi55493 жыл бұрын
This version focus on garl vinland ..you can feel his anger unlike the original that focused in the atmosphere .
@Neo-Midgar3 жыл бұрын
More like this section does. The whole theme is dynamic, & much longer than this. As you said, this section is essentially the "Garl Vinlond" boss section of the full theme. Astraea's actual theme is much quieter & barely any of it is included here.
@xeno63383 жыл бұрын
@@Neo-Midgar actually, when you kill Garl the music changes to a darker tone
@Neo-Midgar3 жыл бұрын
@@xeno6338 Darker, but far more subdued, more suited to Astraea.
@Pan_Z3 жыл бұрын
Copied this from another comment: That's a pretty interesting idea. This theme may have worked from that point-of-view. Garl Vinland's last stand to protect his lover. Here's the thing: the song keeps going after Vinland dies. If the music had gone silent after Vinland died, that could've been a poignant point. Might've even sold the idea that Astraea isn't really a demon better than the original. But it doesn't. The song cuts out when Astraea dies, just like the original. It's Astraea's new theme, and as that it's leagues worse than the original.
@vansharora58593 жыл бұрын
@@Pan_Z The theme changes once you kill garl
@sofialucia64293 жыл бұрын
A lot of people are saying it doesn't fit the fight. The way I see it, this one fits more for Garl Vinland (sounding more like a theme for a battle), while the original fits perfectly for Astraea and her story (sounding tragic and desperate). Just my interpretation though
@MisterHeroman3 жыл бұрын
Shame Garl is only part of the fight and the music doesn't change when he's gone. Fucking Poopoint.
@streppegna45033 жыл бұрын
@@MisterHeroman yes, it does. Just check out Vaatividya's streams.
@manbearpigsereal3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't fit Garl either, he's just trying to defend Astraea, he doesn't even advance on you, just blocks the path to the best of his ability.
@Username-wj8pz3 жыл бұрын
@@MisterHeroman it does
@NUTLORD0073 жыл бұрын
@@MisterHeroman it does you dingus XD watch Vaati's part on the fight in his stream.
@grandbean90313 жыл бұрын
The original is sorrowful, half Astraea's theme and half yours. You're the catastrophe which is coming to end an innocent's life and to end a great deed. This time the perspective is more shifted to Astraea's and Vinland's side. It's their theme. And they're the heroes.
@birdiepitchfeather633 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this version, but I think the older version emphasized the sorrowful feel of the situation more
@MVahag3 жыл бұрын
This is great. But the original theme was way creepier. This is not an epic fight. This is an f'd up fight in an f'd up location. The original theme suited better.
@md-nv4rg3 жыл бұрын
i think it sounds really cool at the start, but the rhythmic sections later on make it too upbeat
@justnoob81413 жыл бұрын
Dunno, the original is for her but you didn't actually fight her
@Yeetomato3 жыл бұрын
@Jim Jones because it wasn't an exciting boss battle encounter, it's sad and messed up
@henryzweihander82823 жыл бұрын
@@Yeetomato Sure, but the composition in the original didn't really carry that sadness well in it's simplicity imo.
@elytewarriob9123 жыл бұрын
Demon's souls after this you entered the list of my favorite video games
@TheHalloweenSpirit3 жыл бұрын
I really love both versions
@bogymanthedark6 ай бұрын
When i saw the boss looked like a human and heard this theme i knew something was not right.
@icedragon40083 жыл бұрын
Everyone here shitting on this probably doesn't know that this music stops after you defeat Garl Vinland and a far more emotional one starts that fits the tradegy really well.
@Spiralpaladin3 жыл бұрын
The original is a wonderful song in and of itself and very fitting with the setting of the boss. But the remake? The song itself is a story. It starts off soft to represent Astraea pleading with you to leave despite your determination to get the Demon Soul within her. And as the music picks up, that is when Garl bars your way, determined to stop you from killing her. A clash of your wills and refusal to break despite every death you've suffered up to this point and all the time he's dwelled among the diseased and wretched for the sake of his beloved who gave everything to assuage the suffering of the most forsaken souls of Boletaria. As the choir rises, he furiously asks what right you have to come here after the two of them had been abandoned by the world, by their faith, by everything. A final furious demand for you to leave them be. To leave HER be. And the final female voice, Garl's final desperate effort to protect his beloved who can but listen as he struggles against you, only for your weapon to strike true and deal the killing blow as the final notes of the cello hum out his final words of regret. "Dearest Astraea.....I have failed you....."
@Sumo005YT3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm crying.
@RickyG932 жыл бұрын
Wow
@Spiralpaladin2 жыл бұрын
@superc37 Do you have some issue with my interpretive analysis of the song? If so, feel free to share your own opinion and perspective in detail.
@qazentro44442 жыл бұрын
I like your analysis and I do agree. I think for me though, one of the people who prefers the original's soundtrack, a lot of it just comes down to original artistic intention. Being honest, I think a lot of this debate could've been squashed if we had the choice to use the original soundtrack if we prefer it. I really like the unique sound of the original soundtrack and the original version of this track in particular was one of the standouts, as, while sure it doesn't tell as quite a complete story like this version does with it's ups and downs, Souls has never been heavy handed with its storytelling, even if calling the ups and downs of a track to be heavy handed is a bit rich. The original keeps a steady, tragic course, which not only echoes the rest of DeS (being a tragedy), but also gives just enough feeling to still tell bits and pieces of that story. Other people in the comments have said that this version of the theme feels more like Garl and Astraea's theme compared to the theme that plays when you're fighting them, and I can see that, but again, it really all comes down to original artistic vision from Shunsuke Kida. This isn't entirely relevant, but I think the biggest example for tracks that lost sight of their original purpose is Flamelurker's theme. In the original it's a foreboding and uncomfortable track in a dark room with a strange beast with a melted face like a man's. If you look far enough into the lore, you can go back to that theme and draw some parallels and read between the lines of what's REALLY going on there - maybe. The remake? I still like it as a battle theme but it's just... a bombastic track for fighting a big flaming guy. Remember how so many people complained about FL's design from the announcement trailer that they changed it? Stuff like that made me nervous - like they were going to change the lore and stuff, and DeS's lore is my favorite in the series. I can appreciate what the new composer was trying to go for with the new sounds and interpretations for the soundtrack, and on it's own I definitely think the soundtrack is still top notch, but in trying to appeal more to Dark Souls fans than trying to stick as close to Demon's Souls as possible from an artistic standpoint (there were also some arguments of lighting/color choice and minor character/boss redesigns up to release, and they changed archstones from green to red - to more align with bonfires), I think some things that made DeS special were lost, especially when compared to the very unique soundtrack of the original. I've heard some people think and hope that Bluepoint might get their chance with Bloodborne or maybe Dark Souls? I fear if they get the latter they'll turn Gwyn's theme from a somber piano piece into something else entirely, and I'm equally concerned for Bloodborne's artistic direction being corrupted as well... Sorry for the long rant, but I'm very particular about remakes and remasters, and generally prefer looking at the two as two separate entities than the remake outright replacing the original. I really enjoyed DeS remake, but I'd still like to play the original at some point.
@Spiralpaladin2 жыл бұрын
@@qazentro4444 No worries, it's cool. I appreciate your thoroughness and your appreciation for the original, which I do like a lot as well. And that particularity toward remakes and remasters is understandable since much of the time nowadays, they seem like little more than soulless (no pun intended) cash-grabs. Of course, my statement was specifically for the Maiden Astraea theme, rather than the rest of the ost, which I do agree could have overall been done better in the remaster. Though honestly, given how influential in terms of final boss music and game music in general it is, I'm positive bluepoint wouldn't dare to change Gwynn's theme. Most they'd probably do is re-record the piano, or remaster the other boss themes. I mean, even Yuka Kitamura remained true to the somberness of his theme for the Soul of Cinder when she shifted it from the bombastic final boss theme to Gwynn's piano. She simply put violin accompaniment alongside it. Plus, since Bloodborne's ost is already supremely high quality, especially being a live orchestra which was still a delicacy in videogames around that time, there's not much to remaster in that regard assuming we DO get a Bloodborne Remastered. Of course, this is merely my own opinion so I cannot comment on what might be the future of potential Soulsborne games, both new and remasters, so I shan't be quoted on this. Especially with how stupid Sony has been lately doing things like gutting their Japanese studios. Ultimately only time will tell.
@NebuchadnezzaR4203 жыл бұрын
This theme is so fucking epic
@henrycoolen46287 ай бұрын
Van weergaloze schoonheid deze theme Kreeg altijd een naar gevoel van binnen wanneer ik d'r moest omleggen op 't einde van 't gevecht, unieke baas was dit
@PARIS-ARCANA3 жыл бұрын
Still reminds me on "no time for caution" from interstellar
@jaunetheboi73003 жыл бұрын
I hope they release the original soundtrack for the game sometime
@jaunetheboi73003 жыл бұрын
@TheDarkTales how much?
@Grayfox823 жыл бұрын
@TheDarkTales is it the original ps3 soundtrack or the remake?
@MarkHogan9943 жыл бұрын
@TheDarkTales Nope, it's the remake's soundtrack that you get with the deluxe edition. Not the 2009 soundtrack.
@oldkingdoran27783 жыл бұрын
They are selling it in Japan currently. Play Asia has it and CD japan
@KaiBaXe3 жыл бұрын
I think many people here missed the fact that this version is more focused on Garl than Astraea actually. Anyway, I don't see the point on hating a masterpiece because it's different from the original
@lynackhilou48653 жыл бұрын
Well I personally prefer the original but both tracks went for slightly different directions while still beinh really good , as someone else commented :" this song fits garl vinland and the original fits maiden astraea better "
@thescott43403 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@MarkHogan9943 жыл бұрын
And who is the boss ? Astraea or Garl ? Sorry but I think I'll take From Soft's judgement on who the more significant character is over Bluepoint's.
@KaiBaXe3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkHogan994 Well, actually the one you fight is Garl. Maybe you see Astraea's boss health bar but you don't really fight her. That's why the new theme fits better.
@Neo-Midgar3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkHogan994 You fight Garl, he is the true boss, though he's not the one with the soul you need.
@ulasgursoy28383 жыл бұрын
"I just killed the lover of an innocent woman who gave up her faith and seeked the power of the very being her faith is supposed to fight against, just to help and offer some confort to the inhabitants of the most wretched and forgotten place in the world, and she commited suicide afterwards. Good thing the soundtrack made me feel epic doing it 😎"
@jimjimmy89003 жыл бұрын
The soundtrack is not for you, it's for Garl, the last stand of a warrior untainted by corruption, the tone of the music gets way somber once you kill him.
@asongforthemostbeautifulwo64763 жыл бұрын
@@jimjimmy8900 very interesting point
@KazuyaMithra3 жыл бұрын
@@jimjimmy8900 ...but you don't even play as Garl, the music is diegetic, only the player hears it. So how is this a good argument in favor of the butchering of this track?
@jimjimmy89003 жыл бұрын
@@KazuyaMithra because the theme is supposed to represent the characters too instead of just the battle. I liked that they tried to tell a story through it instead of making it only a battle theme.
@megashark10133 жыл бұрын
@@KazuyaMithra The boss themes in Souls represent the bosses you're fighting, not your character.
@qaasi953 жыл бұрын
I freaking love this ost. The original fit the boss fight more but I think this is much more interesting to just listen to.
@Laoruperteen183 жыл бұрын
still good, but the original sets the tone of the fight way better.
@xeno63383 жыл бұрын
I didn't play demons souls,but is the original soundtrack that good?
@ags85073 жыл бұрын
@@xeno6338 search it and judge yourself
@meteorsword93313 жыл бұрын
It's the best than classic original soundtrack, no offense
@ags85073 жыл бұрын
@@meteorsword9331 too grand for what it represents, also they added a fricking military march in it, just sounds out of place
@xeno63383 жыл бұрын
Now I heard the two songs,they are both very good,but the original is more loyal to the lore
@182thepain3 жыл бұрын
I kinda find the theme very fitting. It starts very sinister until the camera zooms into them. Then those voices evoke a very tragic story, then goes the initial like with a bit of a tone of conviction for them, while the sinister sounds i think represents our character, which in this scenario is the bad guy.
@gamemaster16083 жыл бұрын
I don't know, I really like both of the versions, but something in the original resembles better the feeling of sadness and dispair, not from us or from the hollow who wants some kind of help to take away their suffer, but from Garl Vinland, desperately trying to protect Astrea from the one who wants to kill his lady just to take more power, and by Astrea, who is afraid to lose Vinland and her soul, who was bringing some relief and peace to the poor hollows, abandoned by the rest of the world like both of them. You feel by the ost that isn't a fight against a great enemy like the penetrator or a epic monster like the dragon god but you, a supposed hero, murdering a woman and her partner, who was just trying to bring some warm to the innocents who had their souls stolen by the demons, using the demons powers to achieve this noble mission
@angelox69563 жыл бұрын
Simple is nostalgia
@gamemaster16083 жыл бұрын
@@angelox6956 that can be a reason for other parts of the game, but that time isn't nostalgia, its what you feels during and after the "fight"
@anbu553 жыл бұрын
;-;
@sharukadog58753 жыл бұрын
Its not just for power, I have to kill her to take down the old one don't I? Is there any other choice.
@sofialucia64293 жыл бұрын
I'm one of the few that actually like this version, but I have to agree that the original is more iconic. It's simple, but incredibly powerful. Today I showed both versions to a friend that never played Demon Souls to see which one they preferred, and they said that "the first one sounds more tense, as if I had to make a great moral choice". I couldn't believe, because that's literally what it's meant to represent, and they guessed it without knowing any context. THAT'S how powerful music can be.
@M4S2R Жыл бұрын
Still listening to this epic ost
@anenemystand5582 Жыл бұрын
This theme tries to hard to be epic to be more. In the end the simple sadness conveyed by the original is buried beneath the excess. It's not bad. But not everything needs to be more.
@kiraboolink2 жыл бұрын
Garl is not maidenless
@dunkmcsnicker8776 Жыл бұрын
I finally played through the remake recently, and I really appreciate that the triumphant sounding section plays while Vinland fights you, but once he dies that classic haunting melody takes priority as you approach Astrea, fully placing you the player, the role of villain.
@anthonyst-onge Жыл бұрын
Love that they used this for the Archdruid in Dark Souls 3 convergence
@lukoscreyden3 жыл бұрын
This theme is definitely growing on me, especially after experiencing it in game. That opening cutscene for the figgt is beautiful. This is a fantastic track that DOES capture the atmosphere. The only problem is, the original track is so untouchable in its excellence. Can't blame BluePoint for trying though. If the original track did not exist, people would be much kinder to this track.
@leonthesleepy3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the remake theme tbh. And yes i played the original first.
@ardaoguzhan8181 Жыл бұрын
It DOES NOT capture the atmosphere at all idk what Ur on. If the Boss was Garl Vinlan then it would capture the atmosphere but the boss is called Maiden Astrea not Garl Vinland idc if he's the only one you fight you go there to kill Astrea, not some random simp knight who loves her. And the music sounds epic which is the exact opposite of what maiden astrea is. The theme is supposed to be sad not some heroic bs with chorus
@s8theninjawarrior916 Жыл бұрын
@@ardaoguzhan8181 in the remake, the music does not start until you are in combat... YOU are the boss.
@ardaoguzhan8181 Жыл бұрын
@@s8theninjawarrior916 Nah that's not the case, that's vinlands theme not astreas.When you kill Vinland astreas theme starts playing I realized this on my 3rd playthrough xD
@scehr3 жыл бұрын
This version would be brilliant for Old King Allant.
@Sdothull3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Actually....yes!
@shaggyd00943 ай бұрын
This music is actually for their boss fight against you. Brilliant.
@WeirdTroll6666 ай бұрын
best DS track
@Sponska2 жыл бұрын
As a first time player, I thought I was ready for anything after that hell of a poison swamp, but I wasn’t ready for this emotional trauma
@carlosronkiyo82942 жыл бұрын
First souls game?
@Daedra_Dude2 жыл бұрын
If you remember in the nexus a certain soul will tell you, you will fall into their trap and you will become evil, the reason why because when you fight the silver knight maiden because you are the boss YOU are evil and *YOU* were the real demon the entire time...
@adamfowler350 Жыл бұрын
This is gorgeous. Absolutely gorgeous
@DettolObsessed3 жыл бұрын
The soundtrack of this game is stunning. They kept the original but magnified the beauty of the pieces.
@NexusZR3 жыл бұрын
How do you people not feel and hear the despair and utter struggle in this piece? It's a death march for Garl, one he knows he's doing, and he has no choice. The player is the demon in this case by all accounts, this remastered track perfectly captures the frantic desperation Garl is feeling in his inability to save the woman he loves. Some of you give the original track too much credit, as it was fairly forgetful when I originally played the game unfortunately. This one was absolutely amazing during the fight, especially because it's dynamic.
@lukas7533312 жыл бұрын
She's a great example of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". Initially a pure soul that wants to help the downtrodden people of the Valley, she ended up overtaken by the Deep Fog, and her ties to worship turning her into an ArchDemon, and a subject of the Old One, constantly feeding it souls from whoever tries to penetrate deeper in the Valley. So your mission is still necessary, you're not the "rEaL bAd gUy", regardless of how the ArchDemon came to be, ultimately you have to end them and lull the Old One back to sleep, because the Saints sure as hell won't do it by themselves.
@Anukinihun3 жыл бұрын
Demon Soul's community is becoming toxic on how they are bashing this game and its sad. Blue Point took the time out to give a beautiful remake and instead of showing gratitude the original fanbase bashes it. It's sad
@harrymason43003 жыл бұрын
It's not a very good ost imo. The ost is generic and "epic" whereas the original was subtle and somber.
@dacontagc3 жыл бұрын
@@harrymason4300 ya, but that's just like your opinion man.
@lynackhilou48653 жыл бұрын
Honestly I didn't see much negativity surrounding the game , I feel like most people that played the remake liked it a lot , but some few things ( like this track ) were more fitting in the original
@harrymason43003 жыл бұрын
@@lynackhilou4865 I feel like a lot of the character redesigns are pretty dumb. Why does the Old Hero have hair? Why does Flamelurker literally look worse than he did in the original? So many of the tiny changes in the remake are pretty baffling to me.
@lynackhilou48653 жыл бұрын
@@harrymason4300 yeah I agree , I don't think all of them are bad but some just look out of place and unnecessary at best , like you'd see them and ask yourself what was the point of these changes/redesigns , for example patches who looks too silly now imo especially when speaking and also the fat officials . Again I still think it's a great remake but it does have some questionable changes ( which is why i'm kinda hoping they don't release a " sixth archstone " dlc without having from software work on it which in of itself is hiighly unlikely due to elden ring , bluepoint devs are very talented but if they were to make somethings souls related like people are suggesting , I think it should be a new IP rather than a demon's souls dlc )
@ibs_haver Жыл бұрын
Honestly this is a great remix. I can see how some people think it's bad because it changes the tone of the fight, but that doesn't mean the track itself is bad. It's a great re-imagining of an originally pretty simple (but highly effective) piece of music that brings a variety of emotions out; sorrow, regret, corruption, but also pride, nobility, and courage, it's tragic and bittersweet.
@bend.7590 Жыл бұрын
A perfect example at how music can tell a story.
@alexrenner51173 жыл бұрын
Love this!!!
@bradygillespie26853 жыл бұрын
Guess I'm one of the few that thinks this is as good as the original. I like them both for different reasons. Sure, this one sounds more 'epic' and 'heroic', but I think it still fits the overall theme of the fight. There is still hints of that melancholic melody found in the original ( 0:35 ) with a church choir that obviously references Astraea. The new melody weaved within the new OST ( starting at 1:45 ) is referencing Garl Vinland, who was once that "heroic knight" archetype, but even then, you can still hear the minor key of the track that conveys that he has indeed fallen and this is his last stand. To me, this remake track does a pretty decent job at telling the story of both Garl Vinland and Astraea, while the original was focused more on Astraea's fall. EDIT: I'm noticing a lot of comments saying that the "tone" of the OST is completely different than the original. Yes and no. It's more 'epic' in sound, but the tone/message is the same. The somber and melancholy of the original is definitely present. In fact, I would say that this is actually a much more dramatic, melancholic version than even the original. The Remake's OST is almost telling the full story of Garl/Astraea's journey instead of focusing on just their fall like the original did. Different intent behind the sound, same story and overall message.
@HaoNguyen-ut9pj3 жыл бұрын
Good analysis. One thing I want to add more: The theme combining with the setting creates something contrasting like Astraea herself. Astraea is considered the most impure, but her act is the most divine.
@bradygillespie26853 жыл бұрын
@@HaoNguyen-ut9pj Yeah. If I had to guess, the intent behind the Remake's OST was for the player to get in the heads of Garl and Astraea. The original was all about Astraea's fall and from the player's perspective, knowing we had to essentially murder a woman who had every good intention in the world. This OST is more from the perspective of both Garl and Astraea. They see themselves as protectors, despite the ruin around them. The Remake shifts the attention from the player and makes an attempt (to mixed reception apparently) to let you see this boss fight from their perspective. They are the heroes who are about to meet a tragic end to the villain of this isolated story. There is no "triumph" to this OST like people claim. There is only death and the OST's minor key and somberness reflects it.
@byrcust18583 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, but the thing is, demon's souls tracks do not realy tell a story overall, they are more about speaking the mind and feels of the boss. Yeah, the track kind of mantains the same feeling and the piece takes you on a trip about both characters...but the original wasn't that, the original melody conveyed pretty much a mix of sorrow by them to having to fight and kill another person more and fear of being killed by you, and that's it, it wasn't necessary anymore, specially with how short the fights in this game are. And you go from there to fighting actual demons like phalanx, the spider or the tower knight which just sound like pure madness, or like the 2 blob of shit bosses on the valley of defilement which sound like brain farts etc...not like someone wanting to tell you that they were once heroic or how much destruction they bring now etc. That was obviously not it and the overuse of choirs and strings and orchestra overwall was "okay" in bb or ds3 because the "eclesiastic" is a big part of the ambientation in both games and it fitted, but in demon's it just feels so out of the place.
@bradygillespie26853 жыл бұрын
@@byrcust1858 I disagree man lol. I've been a fan of Demon's Souls ever since its American release in 2009. Beaten the game more times then I care to admit. The main difference between me and others it seems is that I am not a purist. Nothing necessarily wrong with being a purist, but if you want a experience like the OG, play the OG. The original Demon's Souls was created by a Japanese team while this was recreated by a Western team. I actually find both of them compliment each other because both regions like to present certain themes in different ways in their games. If that doesn't make any sense, this is the overall feeling I have for the Remake. The Original was all about showing you the desolate, hopeless state of the world while being very mysterious with its narrative. The Remake (being created by a completely different studio) attempted to stay true to the original while making the story much more comprehensible to the casual player by redesigning the game in both graphics and OST. A purist would hate that approach. I personally see it as a studio who wanted to flex some creative muscle without completely undoing what came before. I mean hell, if I'm going to spend $70 on a game, I don't want it to be a 1:1 Remake of a game I've played a thousand times. I expect something 'new' to justify the purchase price.
@Raelycta3 жыл бұрын
I like to think this is both Astraea and Garl's theme. It has the sad melody for Astraea. And the epic choir for Garl, in his desperate attempt to kill you. The anger towards your player, the fear of losing Astraea, Garl will do anything to win.
@Freedor2 ай бұрын
The fact that the boss did not follow and just stay there to protect a woman who seems pure...
@tildabernard6640 Жыл бұрын
What a masterpiece … absolutely love this scene it’s incredible . They make pure art
@andrecarvalho82443 жыл бұрын
Alright, as an OG Demon's Souls fan without the budget to buy a PS5 and with a fair bit of academic knowledge on sound engineering... let me judge this: - first off, both versions are amazing! The original was simple but effective, this one with a bit more orchestration but still effective - with that said, obviously there are differences that make all the difference. First off, the remake track didn't need to add percussion, or percutive elements to the track, thus giving the triumphant feel many are getting (01:34 is where I believe the composer strayed away, everything else up to that point was exactly what one would expect from a remake). This is a sad moment, not a tense one. The original isn't percussive at all if you listen to it; - I love that they added a female voice to somehow... well, "voice" Astraea's sorrow and anger. However the original track wasn't so dependent on voice and used a harpsichord and strings/violins/whatever that is, which gave a much more chilling vibe. I felt that they could have made more use of that when coming up with this theme in particular. If they combined both voice and strings in that way I would surely have jizz dripping down my fucking trousers; - I like how the remake track adds some bit of grandeur in a way, yet doesn't go full bombastic like other tracks. Astraea and Vinland were respected names and they deserve grandeur and class to go with it (which was what the harpsichord was doing in the original track); Anyways, both solid tracks. I understand they wanted to get a bit more mournful-orchestral to follow suit with the remaining Souls games, but this is one of the areas where they really should have kept it more OG and less Bloodborne-ish/Dark Souls 3-ish
@ags85073 жыл бұрын
So, in other words, its a good soundtrack, but doesnt fit the fight, and thats the truth.
@andrecarvalho82443 жыл бұрын
@@ags8507 if you actually bothered to read my comment in its entirety then you wouldn't have oversimplified it. Both the original and this one miss certain things, while being strong in others.
@ags85073 жыл бұрын
@@andrecarvalho8244 i did read all, but lets be honest, most ppl won't, both tracks got good and bad things, in the end they added too much and the essence of the original was lost, they missed a great opportunity here to make a very good soundtrack
@LeBrulox3 жыл бұрын
@@ags8507 I don't care, the soundtrack is perfect for me and I love this remake
@Stetzer133 жыл бұрын
Personally, the percussion that gets added at 1:34 doesn't sound triumphant to me. It sounds (to me) like it's supposed to represent Garl Vinland's imposing presence and desperation as he makes his last stand to protect Astraea.
@Chkkk82933 жыл бұрын
now this is kinda grew on me overtime
@xec1 Жыл бұрын
I love this, its so cinematic and beautiful
@leoraheartz14502 жыл бұрын
This fight is the deepest fight by fromsoft. The song ends when Garl Vinland dies and with it Astrea's will to live also fades. Who exactly was the demon, we the human killed a man for our objective who was fighting in self defence yet in her last moments the demon show an emotion which was all too human. After this fight, the line between between demon and human is forever blurred in the game.
@affable86962 жыл бұрын
Parts of this theme sound heavily inspired from Bedřich Smetana's Vltava
@ericbana1912 жыл бұрын
Oh shit! You're right. Atleast the initial string part. Wow! Why did they take a shortcut? So the only thing they did was employed the church organ for the original theme bits and rest of it from Sltava.
@Dunkin0nut3 жыл бұрын
I feel like they made this more as the "Theme of Demons Souls" rather than Astrea. It's not terrible just misses the tone completely
@pancakke083 жыл бұрын
Its literally Garls ost. Its starts when you approach him and ends when you kill him:)
@jorgepalomo64173 жыл бұрын
@@trenta.958...
@jbaer03 жыл бұрын
No, I think it hit spot on. The old one fit as well, but I can’t help but admire the dynamics of the song.
@_cripticon80043 жыл бұрын
The tone is the same tho, music is subjective and for me it hits the same marks as the original
@jbaer03 жыл бұрын
@@_cripticon8004 IMO, the instrumentation felt more full than the few strings. Also, the trumpets and percussion aren’t nearly as present. I should have worded that comment better, but that’s really just what I think
@benjaminmaher8896 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is a really good reimagination of the original
@enjoydesu9833 жыл бұрын
Bluepoint really overshot it here, completely misunderstood it.
@miko51673 жыл бұрын
I disagree.
@justnoob81413 жыл бұрын
Or you just whinning about it's being for Vinland and he kick your ass too much time
@aleqthepredator3 жыл бұрын
@@justnoob8141 | You sound like the kind of jackass who throws “kid” at the end of any discourse, thinking it means something. This theme, while not terrible, completely goes overboard and hits the wrong mood that this fight and theme had originally. It‘a far too grand for something that is not grand and noble at all. This boss fight theme should never be about Garl Vinland and anyone using that is a massive cop out when the feeling and thematic aspects should be focused on you doing something extremely bad to people who are only framed as bad from a misguided and far from nuanced stance, but nevertheless you must do it to stop what you think is a truly greater evil. This particular theme focuses too much on trying to make the fight epic when even the actual boss fight isn’t that at all. The impact for those who don’t have the original in mind is just never going to hit as hard as the original did.
@justnoob81413 жыл бұрын
@@aleqthepredator then why you fight GARL and not ASTRAEA?
@aleqthepredator3 жыл бұрын
@@justnoob8141 | To obviously drive home the fact that Astraea is the furthest most possible thing from a demon as you been led to believe? Garl is the actual fight, but that does not at all mean the fight has any major importance on him rather than Astraea, of which whom you ACTUALLY have to kill to end the battle. I seriously don’t know how you didn’t pick that up, dude.
@BlitzkriegOmega2 жыл бұрын
*Archdruid Caimar*
@mattguxxxtt96293 жыл бұрын
It sounds perfect when u picture the POV of Garl Vinland protecting the maiden from the Demon Slayer. It makes you feel like the bad guy in this fight, that is what we call self reflect and for a song to make u think like that is amazing!
@levestdracir3 жыл бұрын
“Demon Vanquished” Then why am I still standing?
@gegeo87953 жыл бұрын
I feel there is lack of sense of despair from this ost compare to original.
@takezokimura25713 жыл бұрын
I like hellkite drake's version more than the remake's kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3Syn5drbctlftU Alex Roe's version is not bad either kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIC6qZ14p9eDrLs
@br3hbmc793 жыл бұрын
Hellkite and alex row did better
@flavioaugusto22023 жыл бұрын
Excelent song. Isolated though. The original has the perfect sad feeling, fitting the fight. This one it feels much more "epic" and "adventurous", much like an Castlevania Stage theme
@xtcarnagerocks89153 жыл бұрын
Yea I've been trying to find the words for it and I think that fits. The original gave off a feeling of hopelessness and made you ask yourself what is the point in this quest. This one feels like it gives off the air of a triumphant conquest after a great loss.
@br3hbmc793 жыл бұрын
It sounds generic imo, If you ever played the medievil series and then the bluepoint remake of medievil, the ost got the same treatment; taking a fraction of the original theme and adding some generic choir that completely offsets the the tone from the original theme, its infuriating to see again to another one of my favorite games' osts
@justnoob81413 жыл бұрын
Trent Armitage ...getting stuck with Garl, didn't ya?
@justnoob81413 жыл бұрын
Trent Armitage or maybe, just mayyyyyyybe, you can't getting pass Garl Vinland
@br3hbmc793 жыл бұрын
@@trenta.958 I have no doubt they could have taken the orchestral approach while staying true to the original theme, while what we got here isnt by any means bad, it simply has a different tone and imo sounds relatively tame as opposed to other renditions by members of the soulsborne community
@SaviottiGiovanni19932 жыл бұрын
This theme is cool, epic, but the original theme was on another level imho.
@Legion0046 ай бұрын
This was the turning point for my character; in one timeline I turned the game off for the night and head-cannoned a different path for the damned souls. The next morning after turning on the game again to see the story through my character lost itself to the abyss to finish the game. It's always interesting when games become more than a way to pass the time.
@UchihaTobi479Ай бұрын
The Ost perfectly fits with the Boss. It's like they (FromSoftware) have chosen the right ost for Astraea and Garl
@samiamtheman73793 жыл бұрын
Beautiful remake of the original song
@dadbodgamesquad3 жыл бұрын
The hate that this gets is baffling. This is a gorgeous piece of music... among the best in the Souls series IMO. Fits the mood of the moment and the choral bit at 2:40 nearly brings tears to my eyes.
@praaaaaallly3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, my first playthrough was the remake so I dont have the nostalgia from the original. But having heard both now I prefer this one. To each their own I suppose.
@EdenRiot22 жыл бұрын
I really like this also, but I think I prefer the atmosphere of the original. The choral bits are beautiful - but they add an epic feel to something that I think works better as being understated.
@lbster60882 жыл бұрын
When the Pipe Organ kicks in...
@BrotherSantodes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading. Obviously a lot of people don't like the remake and are taking it out on you by disliking your video, as if you're the one who actually made the song. I appreciate you.
@samoliv74262 жыл бұрын
For me 0:58 to 1:30 is the best part of the song. So much sadness involved as if you are the real threat (which is true in fact)
@Neo-Midgar3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate what they did here. I think Bluepoint's goal with this game was to bring DeS more in line with the DS3/Bloodborne style. No, it isn't as simple & pure as the original, but IMO the soul is still there. The OST in general feels much more in line with what SoulsBorne became. Very Sakuraba/Kitamura-esque.
@santiagojara80563 жыл бұрын
This sounds nothing like Ds3's or BB's ost tho. It's not like adding vocals instantly makes them similar in style.
@Neo-Midgar3 жыл бұрын
@@santiagojara8056 Except that that's not why I felt that way, at all. The arrangement itself, as a whole, shares a lot of similarities with DS boss music to my ear. The motifs, the flow, the melancholy.
@mothermushroom_3 жыл бұрын
And there's the problem lmao I HATE ds3 and bloodborne, this single concept of bringing des more in line with those has completely ruined the game for me
@angelox69563 жыл бұрын
@@mothermushroom_ shut up stop spreading the hate on the new OST
@Neonant-3 жыл бұрын
@@mothermushroom_ blood borne though? I can respect an opinion but come on dude.
@DettolObsessed3 жыл бұрын
Makes me miss playing the game 💔 I don't miss the frustration though lol
@rzNeedsABmw2 жыл бұрын
i dont have a PS5. but dark souls 3 convergence mod made me discovered how they make this theme 10x more epic and i seriously hope i can play the remake Demon Souls one day just to get to this part and be the villain in Astrea's story again