Demonic Delusion: The Dark Side, Fear & Self-Deception - Jay Dyer (Half)

Today I want to discuss the dark truths around the notions of delusion and self-deception. How is it possible to deceive ourselves? Do demons play a role in this process? What about drugz and the use of hallucinog3ns to achieve access to other realms, dimensions and illumination? Is there a progress into a demonic inversion of theosis where we become more and more evil? Do the demons empower those who align with them? This is the free half of a talk and the full can be obtained by subscribing to JaysAnalysis below:
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[@JayDyer]

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[@rileyrage]

[@babzlovenunity5]

Q

[@vickiezaccardo1711]

Kind of an off- track question here, Jay. Have you ever listened to Ann Barnhart s Remember Lots s Wife: Diabolical Narcissism? She discusses the demonic pallet.

[@voltaire5427]

Starts at 9:00

[@George-ur8ow]

Generally I've found it a good idea to read what the Saints have said concerning prelest (spiritual deception, often self-deception) from time to time. Spiritual deception is man’s assimilation of a falsehood which he accepts as truth. "Spiritual deception is the state of all men without exception, and it has been made possible by the fall of our original parents. All of us are subject to spiritual deception. Awareness of this fact is the greatest protection against it. Likewise, the greatest spiritual deception of all is to consider oneself free from it. We are all deceived, all deluded; we all find ourselves in a condition of falsehood; we all need to be liberated by the Truth. The Truth is our Lord Jesus Christ (Jn. 8:32-14:6)" - St. Ignatius Brianchaninov

[@theskyizblue2day431]

This is such a good listen. I am so glad you are doing these. Thank you, Jay

[@amazz121]

i must say, this episode was 'cranked to the max' !

[@NameLess-ks4fi]

Spergatory

[@voltaire5427]

The demonic art portion is most revealing. I'm a big advocate of artistic endeavors as a way to better understand yourself. Have many talented artists in my family, and it's fascinating to see what they produce in different seasons of their lives.

[@mandatorymyocarditis]

Many artists really get into the whole thing as using themselves as a vessel for whatever they are perceiving under the influence of powerful mind altering substances. Some of it can be very disturbing, some very beautiful. Very interesting none the less. I do think there is some truth lying in all of it if you try to breakdown and analyze why it's created and where that all comes from

[@voltaire5427]

@@mandatorymyocarditis "You are what you eat.. or smoke." A lot of great work has been produced under the influence, but going overboard with that stuff can do real harm. Would imagine there's quite a few schizophrenics among the creepy art community as well. Have a friend diagnosed with it who see some rather dark things in everyday life... AND he draws it. Says he sees like an aura of spiders and centipedes coming out of the worst types of people, and on the other hand sees trustworthy people have metallic lusters. He doesn't do psychedelics either.

[@RoseannaPonturo]

This is another amazing presentation.... So spot on....!!! Just the other day when Pelosi was finally told by her Bishop that she shouldn't receive communion because she's pro abortion, she literally responded at a press conference..... that SHE felt SHE could be the one to decide whether or not SHE should be able to receive our Lord God in holy communion....!!!

[@irinapop6566]

completely delusional. You can clearly see that she is demonically possessed. Those feverish holes of eyes never lie.

[@Beat2ThaPhonk]

That was a very important _lecture_ for me. Once again, Thank you, Jay. God Bless!

[@evanschulz7375]

I didn't know you were in to Bagwan Alibaba. A salami legume, Jay Dyer!

[@idleH4nd5]

I came to the same conclusion about there not being a secular realm. My reasoning is that we can never have complete knowledge of anything and therefore all beliefs require an element of faith.

[@grugg5353]

None of you are ready to step into the octagon and experience and be awestruck by the thundering continent shifting eagle scream that flows forth from the pre pubertory second vocal chords. 💥⚡️🦅⚡️💥

[@arthurb.w.597]

This is absolutely fantastic

[@TommyGunzzz]

Can't stop thinking about that Decarte reference from that cosmic heretical angle. Whether he meant it that way or not, it's telling of the secular ethos as a whole. Great stream

[@derpestarzt]

it makes sense to create demonic art when you're surrounded by demonic forces, that sort of imaginery comes from the subconscious mind trying to express a warning.

[@mkultravictimbf]

Just finished Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future, this talk was a good way to cap it of, alot of similarities. Great as always, best channel on youtube. God Bless.

[@kalman703]

This was a great episode, one of your best. Thanks for all you do

[@Stevenmulraney]

44:00 Lil Wayne keeping Jung Boomer on the straight and narrow. Finally a rap collab we can get behind.

[@viktoriaregis6645]

Whatever happened to beauty. Beautiful nature people and animal. Even beautiful patterns if abstract. A teacher I once had was discussing the change from beauty to ugliness. He said " If somebody comes to my house,I show them the most beautiful things in my home, trying to make things nice for the guest. I don't go to show him the garbage" there is something to it.

[@Jigsaw0097]

This stream was very good, one of Jay’s best.

[@1bonatsos]

Lovely lecture Jay thank you for always your enlightening words 🙏☦️👍

[@octogonecomics6790]

Brilliant correlation btw delusions and demonic art!

[@bogdanungureanu9751]

2:03:00 is Alex Voldemort level, Jay is climbing up the ranks, folks

[@irinapop6566]

Great episode!

[@ChrismaMysterion]

I used to be a psychedelic performance artist at music festivals, often "staying in character" (possession) all weekend. My work was entirely occult. I can personally attest and confirm through direct experience, that what you are saying about demonic influence is correct. Have been thinking of speaking on this, but still gathering my thoughts, and learning what Scripture says ... I am now in Christ, and devoted to Yah, but just wanted to share support about your claims.

[@vegeta8169]

Hope you'll share it.

[@mandatorymyocarditis]

Let's go, Brandon!!

[@necksugar]

The converging systems. I get this . Thank You Jay.

[@Stranded360]

Most excellent talk Jay.

[@ardentseeker8556]

Literally LOL’ed when I heard this: “I wanna fight everyone in the audience over the volume of the mic, even though they’re probably right…”

[@heartoforthodoxy1551]

Ironically, I was finishing up this stream while eating dinner. And it was disgusting looking at this modern - so called 'art'. Thanks Jay for exposing darkness in all its various manifestations.

[@tynytian]

Ecumenism=mooshable theology 🤣 Btw, thank you very much for responding to WLC's Apollinarianism. I had asked for someone to respond yesterday, and someone immediately linked me to a fresh stream from Medwhite. Prompt prayer responses!🙏

[@justaawake6273]

❤️ Jay

[@cheheihei8386]

,,Chadnerd" I learned a lot today :D

[@jhlapp9840]

In defence of Descartes, “I think, therefore I am” was meant to be an epistemological statement, not a metaphysical one. I believe he made this statement from foolishness, not malice.

[@gotellthem2099]

For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. John 3:17

[@russellhoward3866]

Taking out the trash wage slave Adonis, that's me. Rockin out w/ my unplugged Fender bass @ night demigod, 100%. Even made my own mini-me. Wish my wife knew I was half god.

[@mountainwalk]

What kind of EVIL codex does Mac use? Gotta be pretty spooky! Anyway, great vid Jay! Keep it up!

[@seamerollin9055]

Great stream.

[@MotherPugger1]

“He was a convinced skeptic” 😂😂😂

[@bebopbountyhead]

Oh yeah, this stream spoke to me hardcore. About 1.5 years back, I had a series of revelations of demonic influence in the noetic realm of creativity. It's my belief that this is why art can be so prophetic: it primarily issues from the noetic realm. Art uncovers the spiritual reality beneath our pretensions. Good examples are "Demon Cleaner" by Kyuss and "Lullaby" by The Cure.

[@mandatorymyocarditis]

Artists take lots of drugs, drugs open your mind to the spiritual realm and other forms of perception people can't normally experience while sober, so there's that

[@mandatorymyocarditis]

@OrthodoxyChloroQuine I know what you mean, it's a true reflection of the mass psychosis that has overtaken modern society

[@mandatorymyocarditis]

@OrthodoxyChloroQuine I've taken many drugs, I know what it's like, but I still don't want to create bland art, I try to tap into the higher realms of consciousness and try to spread a positive message, in one way or another if it can benefit our human struggle. But I see a lot of this crap that is just meant to demean us and enslave us and it's just postmodernist garbage which is meant to demoralize and degredate us, it's intended to destroy our traditions and a lot of it is just Marxist crap. Postmodern art tends to fuel communism

[@HellenicLegend7]

@OrthodoxyChloroQuine Indeed, that’s why the saints say that we shouldn’t accept images in our mind when we pray (especially the Jesus prayer). Fantasy is a creation of the fallen human nature (and demonic nature), that’s why Christ’s human nature has all the properties of the noetic faculty except fantasy.

[@mandatorymyocarditis]

@OrthodoxyChloroQuine eh I wouldn't say that necessarily, but it is playing with fire. Depends on what kinds of drugs you are doing and if you are abusing them.. in my experience

[@idleH4nd5]

Spurgatory.

[@ThaTurdBurglar]

Love your insights Jay, but any chance you can turn up your mic in future episodes? Can barely hear you on this one and it's on full blast! Compression (audio) works wonders. Alex Jones' secret weapon 😅 he turns his up to 11

[@JayDyer]

I have the volume up halfway listening to the video and it sounds perfectly fine

[@ThaTurdBurglar]

@@JayDyer strange. Youchube wants to turn us all down. I'll just have to hold my phone close to my ear, whisper to me j lol 🙏😎

[@gigi3377]

I have 2 cul de sacs. My first is Jesus who kept me from fear when I saw demons everywhere when I almost died. The second is ACIM which keeps me from anger on a daily basis. I think they've the same message on forgiveness.

[@mandatorymyocarditis]

ACIM?

[@mandatorymyocarditis]

@@romeisburning6739 ah ok thanks, never heard of that until now

[@exposingpowerfulliesclips]

Of course doctrines of demons can seduce. How else could they get you to fall into their trap?

[@alexanderjosephross]

8:59

[@fernandoscrenci4874]

When listening , Keep in mind you must test the spirit to see if its from God / the Real Jesus , because "many" are being fooled by the fake Jesus of Rome!! Matt 24:5 is happening Big time!!

[@hsap2223]

Trapped in Spergatory. The name of my new autobiography

[@amillionlittledingdongs6768]

2:43:03 in 1976, Alex Gray did a performance art piece called “necrophilia,” photographed by his wife. He wrote a letter about it to WET magazine stating that after he did the piece, he was “less afraid of death but more afraid of the karmic consequences of my actions.” He also did an interview with Luke Rudkowski where he fumbled over a really easy question about satanism and a pendant he wears, and had to be rescued by his wife-very funny to watch. Not quite as funny knowing he banged a corpse.

[@amillionlittledingdongs6768]

Grey*

[@perdurabo56]

54:00

[@WoodchuckNorris.8o]

This is a great, great talk. What do you think of the reformed guys and their "revelational epistemology"? I want to get a better understanding of orthodox epistemology because when I first jumped into philosophy before being a christian I fell into delusion around this issue just like the guy you described.

[@21belgam]

Man isnt there a way around this shadowban?

[@qparxiii]

2:01:26 -> preach it Jay! that trash made my whole family cringe

[@tyronelol]

y0

[@candacespence4472]

*Bogwan Alibaba, the Guru of the Conscience Society and quietude*

[@hashbrowns9328]

where is the 2nd 1/2

[@JayDyer]

Going up later today

[@kreculjkreculj]

Damn, by your standards i would be possessed by 5 demons and 3 devils hahah. What i think you should maybe split into different groups is, ones, like me, are designing things for games, demons as enemies(like the Keith Thompson guy from your vid, he's a concept artist) which you should slay, and there are those modern art guys who are doing it as a choice, like it's coming naturally from them. A girl i was friend with, also artist, had a sleep paralysis and there she saw a black figure, her art was also pretty chaotic, but abstract.

[@qparxiii]

2:05:39 -> and they specifically try to anthemitize a "religious experience" Religion is a bad word in that sect. Atheism factory? OMG yes! I was born in that BS! THANK GOD that's not of God!

[@brianm7880]

Jesse Lee Peterson believes that all thoughts are lies all the time.

[@vegeta8169]

Not all not all not all

[@cbasallie]

Gosh I wish someone would address the phenomenon of Co-abusers. Like…..we assume that artists who draw torture scenes were direct victims of abuse. But abusive circles are dependent upon gangs. The leader will get a group (in families it will be most of the children)….to assist them as they go after the target. Part of abuse involves isolation. So there will be a single target. One victim. Other cult members will be invited to join the leader and help the leader gang up on and abuse the target. Anders-n Coop-r for example is always being described as a victim of abuse based on the discoveries about his mother. I’d argue that he most likely helped the mother abuse his younger sibling. Isn’t his younger brother dead? In these powerful families there is so often a super star child and a dead child. I don’t believe these super star children were victims of the abusive cult families. I believe they were raised as co-abusers. I think that’s where the sadistic fantasies come from

[@edennis8578]

Hm. I assume that artists who draw torture scenes are sadists.