Depp v. Heard Trial Day 9 - Dr. Shannon Curry Direct Examination

[@tara4340]

I used to be a therapist and now I teach. When I was watching Dr. Curry talk, I kept thinking how much I would love to have her be a guest speaker to my students! She is very knowledgeable, well spoken, and breaks everything down in an easily digestible way. She is an excellent professional! Yay Dr. Curry! 👏👏👏

[@mrscourtneyward]

Rewatching the trial: Dr.Curry said that AH didn’t use “I” emotion statements…later in AH never said “I was scared of J” she just said “it was scary” 😬😬😬

[@aliioana8586]

Dr. Curry straight up just taught my whole undergrad psychopathology class better than my actual professor did through a whole semester. Take us to SCHOOL!

[@bestpoubelle5332]

As someone working towards a degree in clinical psychology, Dr. Curry is such a role model for me! She is so thorough and precise in her work. She is a great person to have representing the field in the court.

[@britlilbit]

My best friend had Borderline personality disorder. The expert testimony broke my heart. My BFF is not violent but knowing that her bouts of depression and highs and extreme switch between emotions - and realizing it’s due to fear of abandonment, broke my heart. I love her to pieces and we’ve been best friends for 20 years. My heart just breaks that I’m just now finding out that this is how she feels and what she deals with, for the first time. 20 years. She’s tried to explain and I’ve always been understanding. But getting further depth, it’s like a lightbulb.

[@user-es4ri5zu4k]

This is one of a few compassionate responses I've seen regarding BPD. I too have a best friend that I strongly feel suffers from BPD (though in keeping with the disorder, sometimes we are best friends, sometimes we are not). It does indeed make me sad as well because even though the behaviors are often harmful and destructive to the people around them, they are also often loveable and joyful people.

[@gailtrotman5256]

I disagree with the notion of going easy on Amber Heard. Are you kidding? This woman is going to kill someone. She attacked Johnny on their Honeymoon, on a plane, in Australia - and it's all documented visually in photos. She is vicious and Johnny is lucky he didn't get killed in his sleep. I don't appreciate all the talking over the witnesses, it's very distracting. For that reason I won't subscribe to this channel.

[@nicolefeliciani8358]

I think what is missed here is that Amber has two diagnosis’ 1.BPD 2. Histrionic Personality Disorder I beg people to please research Histrionics. This is where Ambers personality differs from just BPD. Histrionics are a completely different ball game.

[@zr9145]

On the flip side though your BFF could enter therapy in order to control those behaviours, thats her responsibility. The diagnosis isn't an excuse for bad behaviour, it's an explanation.

[@Bloody_RedQueen]

@@zr9145 as someone with a hefty bag of diagnostic alphabet soup, your statement holds true for everyone. If I max out credit cards and get a speeding ticket because I'm manic, I'm still financially responsible for the debt and legally responsible for the fine. Like I tell my kids, having an issue with how your brain works just means you have to work harder to make good decisions

[@Dancewithloveforever]

Dr Curry needs a KZbin channel, I need her. She’s so soothing and interesting

[@stephaniecornwell8766]

I love facts focused, straightforward people so much.

[@PromisedJubilee]

Same!

[@checkzombie4024]

Do you think she has time for this

[@QTpatootie95]

I think she’s busy actively helping folks with PTSD 🥴

[@cher_bear7585]

Oh for sure! She was awesome and didn’t get rattled at all.

[@MANIAKRA]

Dr. Shannon coming in with absolutely stacked credentials! Wow that was an awesome witness, expert indeed.

[@calmdowngurl]

👌👌

[@alexarias5717]

All that and she is a stunningly beautiful woman at that 😍😍

[@mrssabre2946]

I was soooo fascinated with Dr. Shannon Curry's testimony.

[@HS-ie8tj]

She is brilliant.

[@jadexx299]

Me too! I’d LOVE to hear her talk more about psychology!

[@JustJokes-bw4fs]

@@jadexx299 same 😃

[@TheBreechie]

I struggled with it. I was trained under a forensic psych and have sat through so many trials… Sadly this was not a terribly advanced explanation or a balanced description of the disorders or their impact. Most of all it was shocking to hear her say people with BPD are more prone to violence because every individual paper and systematic review absolutely disputes this…. I was shaking my head pretty badly.

[@JustJokes-bw4fs]

@@TheBreechie Oh wow, I'm going to have to read up on it for myself rather than just take Dr Curry's word.

[@andromeda7758]

Why couldn't all of my teachers in university been like Dr. Shannon Curry I would have never even considered missing one of her lectures ☺️

[@thecatlimitdoesnotexist]

After seeing Dr. Hughes’ testimony with her whole “post it” situation and then coming back to rewatch this…the difference is night and day! Dr Curry seems so much more credible, like she really knows what she is talking about. Dr Hughes seemed like she crammed for her final the night before but thought it was going to be an open book test. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Doddciiy201]

Yep!

[@whathappened1284]

Totally agree Sarah, and also the difference in their attitudes. Dr. Hughes seemed offended when the prosecution would question her, almost like ‘how dare you not realize I am the authority on all things psychological’ whereas Dr Curry takes a question as a teaching opportunity and completely holds her calm composition when the defense comes off as abrasive and challenging. Dr. Hughes seemed to accuse that Dr Curry didn’t interpret the tests correctly, didn’t know what she was talking about. It probably didn’t help her ego when she was mistakenly called Dr Curry several times…

[@thecatlimitdoesnotexist]

@@whathappened1284 omg when Elaine called Dr Huges Dr. Curry, not once, but twice I was cackling 😂🤣 and the facepalm after the first one was pretty priceless as well. While Dr. Hughes’ resume had me quite impressed, seeing her actually testify had me questioning how she got her credentials in the first place and if I’m doing that I can only assume that the jury is also. The fact Dr Curry was able to give her entire testimony from memory and Dr Hughes could barely go 10 seconds without glancing at her notes really drives that point home too. To me she has a large bias to assume men are usually the perpetrators and women the victim. I wish JD’s team would have asked her if she had ever testified in defense of a male who had violence perpetrated against them by a female. The way she told AH’s story as if it was fact and she had seen it with her own eyes was just appalling to me and so unprofessional. I firmly believe that Dr Curry would have reported any findings that could have been seen as damaging to JD’s case if she had found any based on how she testified. I do not believe Dr. Hughes would have done the same.

[@Cafe_Es_Bueno]

Agreed. Even though Dr Curry is naturally likeable, you can feel there was a complete level of professionalism. By the book, the results are there and anyone can verify. Vs Dr Hughes, while I would not say she was disliked at first, her gendered speech came off as bias. I don't believe anyone could say Dr Curry showed bias against AH.

[@Hoffanheim]

@@thecatlimitdoesnotexist the JD Team ask her if she testified for a man, she said only for men in same sex relationships, not for a man in a relationship with a woman.

[@ElWCont]

As someone with BPD, i’m not surprised at Amber’s diagnosis. I will reiterate emily’s point, however, that a BPD diagnosis DOES NOT excuse this type of behavior. We can still see and feel the damage we cause-and DBT (best therapy for bpd) is expensive, but i can promise you Amber Heard can afford it. There’s no excuse.

[@kimfox5071]

Totally agree

[@PromisedJubilee]

I agree.

[@dextermoore278]

Everyone with BPD DOESN'T act like Amber Heard. She is giving people with BPD a bad name. Amber is a Psychopath.

[@laurel7570]

So nice you spoke up. It is hard for some people to believe that a person / AH / BPD could decide and afford proper help if she chose.

[@rachelgreene1013]

Thank you my dad had BPD and didn't do anything about it and im still messed up from it. He's dead now

[@rachaelreis6530]

"She has odd rulings but shes consistent with her odd rulings" 😂😂 i love how you gave the judge both shade and a compliment.

[@rockforester7908]

2L here. I think she’s competant but is also nervous.

[@gd2234_]

I’m always thankful for the woman who subbed for my therapist, and told me at 14 that I had BPD traits. I couldn’t be diagnosed at that age, but I WAS able to work on improving my interactions with others, understand my brain a bit better, and learned how to regulate my emotions (which will always be something I’m working on). I see myself in amber (when I’m unable to regulate my emotions), and am thankful I got help before I was technically supposed to because I don’t want to think how awful I’d be if I hadn’t. I know I still have to improve, but goddamn, I’ve come a long way from where I was

[@pegaseg70]

Big hugs to you Well done for doing your best 💪

[@ayjamay]

Yup before I was diagnosed at 18. I was a mess, but the diagnosis and treatment made my life better especially those around me.

[@whims6278]

You go my friend! Had a very similar experience as you, and had a mum who helped me recognize and treat things early. It's been a lot of work but I'm in a place I never thought possible, and I'm glad you are too :)

[@rudedrugs]

was also diagnosed. people with bpd are not inherently abusive. /: it's likely you wouldn't have abused anyone. we're more likely to be abused bc we're drawn towards narcissists and narcissists are drawn to us. idk. i wish bpd wasn't so demonized like this.

[@Trth1707]

Brilliant, done well.

[@csiehda]

I have bpd, and it is intense. She still needs to think about her actions. Praying for all, but I still stand with Johnny.

[@LWYMMD]

Coming back to this after 10 months, and EDB’s quotes are still amazing “the way she asks questions makes me…want to stop listening to her talk.”

[@Lei-AICPhD]

Me too! Agreed! I love it. I come back to see did I miss something, or if I see something now and if EDB already clocked it. And usually she has!

[@jaelancaster5506]

This forensic psychologist should be teaching over her next 100 lives. She is beyond knowledgeable and she translates her brilliance into fascinating understandable application

[@checkyesgaby]

Agreed! What a fantastic teacher. So easy to understand and pay attention to 😊

[@sarasmith8037]

I want to be her when I grow up. But I'm already grown up 😭

[@LaniAnne402]

Wish I had her evaluation long ago!

[@TheBreechie]

I think many with even an undergrad degree in psych would likely not be half so impressed…

[@Cherryjaynexx]

@@TheBreechie unpopular opinion of not finding her testimony compelling as well lol

[@SamanthaEatsCookies]

I'd just like to say that Emily's words and the rules of the chat have made me think so much on how I say and approach things. It has made me think so much more when it comes to speculating and all that online. We all love gossip and tea, but I feel like I'm being pushed to be critical in more positive ways. I love being a law nerd!

[@whims6278]

I second this! The entire chat over the past week has been one of the most productive spaces I've been in on the internet

[@anonymoususer4866]

💙

[@SorryItsThisWay1]

Extremely refreshing to see this on KZbin! Emily creates a productive community

[@pamelabennetch5000]

💕😊

[@yourmother9834]

Just Emily, casually reminding us to touch grass and be good people 🥰

[@safepop]

Yes Dr. Shannon running down her resume! We STAN an educated queen! 👏

[@terrylaguardia6838]

Emily as someone who’s avoided conflict with a partner who showed personality disorders similar to those you’ve mentioned in the context of this case, I’m very grateful to you for the explanations you’ve given about the need and right for compassion. Both partners suffer immensely, and while the diagnoses do not constitute an excuse they do and should help us understand where Amber is coming from and why JD took so long to come to public about the abuse he suffered. Yes it does happen that love happens to people struggling with PTSD in different, often irreconcilable ways. Compassion, though not to be mistaken for subjection, is urgent.

[@ImOnYoutubee]

Here in 20th April 2023, this clear and detailed testimony is one of the major reasons behind JD's win. The diagnosis she gave and the way AH behaved throughout the trial in front of jury was 100% accurate.

[@rosien7334]

Amber was trying to force the court to have Johnny undergo an IME, instead the court ordered her to undergo one because she was claiming PTSD. Virginia state requires you to undergo an IME if you are claiming any kind of mental issue.

[@yourmother9834]

Makes sense

[@lindatruax8319]

I WONDER HOW THAT CAME OUT?? I WONDER IF IT'S ADMISSIBLE IN THIS COURT CASE? OMG - I HOPE SO!! ## NOT YELLING - ALL CAPS BECAUSE OF VISION ISSUE! ##

[@kendallneason3645]

Bad decision on AH and her attorneys parts. One of many. aH team should have concentrated on first amendment and describe a co-toxic relationship. Likely AH’s BOD and HD prevented her taking any accountability.

[@Mellypepper]

Dr. Shannon is insanely smart and she knows it. Lol! The part where he asked if she was licensed after she listed off all her credentials was hilarious...Even she had a look of, "Are you serious right now?" 😂

[@-KMA-]

This guy seems lost and flustered because he knows he’s already screwed up lol

[@stephaniegreen8437]

“That’s my best friend, she’s a real bad bitch. We stan Dr. Curry” Emily saying what we are all thinking!

[@viper2785]

2:27:11 "Depp said she seemed perfect" Also, he mentioned how she seemed to love old blues and other stuff he was into, which stood out to me during his testimony.

[@AshleeKnowsNot]

So I'm someone who suffered from very similar treatment to what Amber Heard is alleged to have done to Johnny Depp. As soon as I heard that the art supplies was all over the backyard I had to know who the artist was. My ex used to trash my art supplies. Paintings, materials whatever. It made me happy and feel self-assured so he had to destroy it. Google it and sure enough Johnny Depp is also a painter. So her trashing his art supplies, pretty consistent with everything else that is alleged. I feel like even as a rich person there's no reason to trash your own art supplies. Like if your the tortured artist type trash your own painting you know? Why take it out on mineral spirits and paint brushes? Anyone who paints treasures they're good brushes. Even if you buy the exact same brush it's not necessarily exactly the same. Trust me we become very attached to like three or four brushes. No artist is going to just throw them in the yard because of a fight. That's like the art version of sacrilege.

[@melodiecason2799]

Excellent point!

[@RuminatingRaptor]

I find it insulting that her side is trying to insinuate that Depp’s people would perjure themselves for a paycheque.

[@johnbull1568]

That's a standard in any case. What is truly insulting is stuff like trying to turn the muffins into professional misconduct. She knew that it would be explained in full on re-cross, it was a stupid line to pursue.

[@hazelangus]

It may be insulting, but surely it's an obvious question to raise? It's a question that should have been repeatedly raised in the Britney conservatorship - that everyone was benefiting from the status quo.

[@jfk8540]

@@hazelangus i think the context is important. in a case like this it’s basically just a blatant attempt to attack and discredit every person that works for him as a liar because they work for him when if he was truly abusive not many people would defend or lie under oath to defend that, let alone when every person that testifies comes off as honest and share very consistent accounts of what went on in reality. it’s amber and her defense twisting and manipulating reality to paint their own nightmarish canvas and any of the witnesses who are not crazy people paint a very different picture, their only trick is to attack them and imply conspiracy between them and depp. but, let’s not talk about how much that crone and the rest of her defense team is being paid by amber to manipulate reality on her behalf, and their credibility, let’s focus on the credibility of anyone that johnny depp pays to manage his property, be his security or childhood friends. even though they must be getting at least what that island manager makes or more for this single trial otherwise it wouldn’t be worth this career suicide. but the legal system is dumb. what they’re doing is literally an ad hominem fallacy and has the express purpose of obscuring the truth in favor of a twisted contortion of reality that no one but amber knows the real johnny and everyone that tells the truth about what they’ve experienced with them is in the pocket of big johnny, and yet it’s allowed in a courtroom. outrageous and disgusting conduct by the defense, they should be ashamed

[@karatekaninen3045]

@@hazelangus Exactly. Unfortunal some people seem to base their opinions on wich side they are on. I have even seen some fans saying that: 'oh how mean Ah's lawyers are to the witnesses.. can they really do that?!?!' - I wodner if these people realize that this isn't a popularity contest but an actual trial

[@TheCotyw]

It’s not disrespectful at all. It’s also not uncommon.

[@mortimerjames218]

Umbridge is killing me. I'd def be turned off by her as a jury member. Edit: Dr Curry has joined Issac & Ben as the best witnesses. She is so smart, so well spoken, & pretty. New girl crush.

[@anvilhead9513]

Holy moly! The lady that gave her the psych test is such a valuable tool!! Everything Johnny was trying to explain.

[@clairehansen5575]

as an adult child of a mother with untreated BPD, my spidey senses started tingling as soon as her first depositions came out (I think that's the right legal term?). As soon as that lawyer asked Dr. Curry to define a personality disorder I was like "strap in folks its a wild ride"

[@covynxx718]

I am very concerned for this woman’s child. I was before just from watching the other testimony and hearing the recordings, but I work in psych and this ticked all the boxes and I get it so much more now. That poor poor child.

[@GlutenFreeApp]

I live in the Caribbean and I’m planning a wedding. My fiancée suggested the wedding to be at 3:30pm and I said “sure babe”. Then at 3:30pm I asked him to go on our porch (exactly one year to the wedding) and imagine standing in the sun for at least 25 mins with pants and a shirt on while our guests are in the sun even longer. He VERY quickly said that 5-5:30pm would be a better time. Who wants to be sweaty and gross on their wedding day?

[@thriftynurse]

We made that mistake for our wedding. If i recall it started around 5 but it was still VERY hot and VERY bright here in NC, sun didnt go down til close to 830-9 or so. My husband and son were outside setting things up most of the day prior to ceremony too, so by the time we got to the ceremony my son was so overheated we had to stop midway thru and let him sit and drink some water cuz he was feeling a bit dizzy! It was pretty miserable with the heat. Would definitely have done it later if i could redo it!

[@irabow5378]

It was was 93° during my outdoor wedding, in the middle of a week that's usually 70-80 😤

[@annab8312]

Late afternoon early evening is much better for your reception. So your cake isn't out in the heat. Once the sun goes down it is much better for wedding cakes. If possible have the cake under shelter so if rains you don't need to worry. I make wedding cakes in the Caribbean.

[@GlutenFreeApp]

@@annab8312 Thank you so much for sharing your advice with me. Duly noted :)

[@sekichdawn3913]

My sister got married in August in southern Wisconsin......it was miserable. We were wearing black bridesmaid dresses....I was melting.

[@calmdowngurl]

I love how the psychologist was on point with refuting A's lawyer and how she(lawyer) kept trying to spin her words and a sad attempt at discounting a very detailed diagnostic test which is clearly beyond scope of what this lawyer is trying to dispute. Well done.

[@crystalfarmer4074]

Wow! She flat out said I looked for PTSD and she doesn't have it. Forget Milani ruining AH case. Dr. Curry just killed it IMO. BTW sorry for so many comments, I comment while watching.

[@TheCotyw]

Actually, I wish they’d gone in on the criticisms of the CAPS5 and MMPI as diagnostic tools. Especially since CAPS5 was developed using military-based trauma and there is a significant difference between how PTSD from military trauma and PTSD from DV present.

[@Thi-Nguyen]

Me too! I get bad about it too. I comment and then watch more. Inevitably I have to comment again. Sometimes I go back to my previous comment and add on, but sometimes I just say f it and make a new comment. 😆

[@X3r0.]

Amber smirking while she “took notes” during Dr. curry’s testimony was… terrifying , honestly. As a trans male DV victim of a BPD / HPD partner, all I can see is her learning to adapt and manipulate more. I hope she gets the help she needs

[@dylankennedy4539]

Also had an ex partner with BPD try to ruin my reputation, this is honestly cathartic

[@BotanyDegreePilkerton]

I've gone the other way, he is terrifying to me. My empathy lies with the single mom left alone to raise his child.

[@X3r0.]

@@BotanyDegreePilkerton pretty sure it isn’t his child

[@Msanabanana1973]

I think Amber was just making notes on her BURN BOOK - mean girls style

[@teresahickey3021]

She won’t. She’ll never admit she lied, or planned this, but clearly all her friends and lovers have walked away from her

[@timelymanner-nz]

I had to come back and watch Dr. Curry again. I think she had such a large input into the outcome of this trial. Very engaging and likeable.

[@jennifersmith6255]

Thank you for pointing out that the diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder does not mean that Amber is a bad person. I was diagnosed 10 years ago and it is a very difficult burden to bear. You can overcome it, but it is a very difficult and painful thing that tears you down to the deepest core of who you are. If you think “I love you, go away or I hate you don’t leave me” that is what it comes down to. BPD tend to build up walls as tall as they can to protect themselves. They tend to be the ones that suffer from childhood abuse of any kind. A fear of never being good enough for anyone and being abandoned. I am not team Amber, but I do have a lot of compassion for anyone dealing with BPD.

[@mermaiddiyartist8119]

Right. It also doesn’t mean everyone with it is abusive. Glad it’s getting better for you.

[@jenmdawg]

I too have recovered from BPD. As you know it is a very painful and difficult journey but I can finally say “I wouldn’t have it any other way”. I want all those who are diagnosed (or strongly suspect) with it to know there has never been a better time to overcome it - there are many effective treatments and a much better understanding of it than ever before. Personally, I used DBT, Focusing, meditation and put my physical health (sleep, nutrition, sobriety, exercise) above all else. 6 years later I am a very, very different person.

[@JoJo-iy9lv]

@@jenmdawg CONGRATULATIONS🌈🎉!!!! That is such fantastic news, very encouraging to others as well❤️🌈🍀

[@shawnamilbrandtorwoll8858]

Thanks for sharing that, Jennifer. I have empathy for her as well. Just like Johnny had to sit through the tapes of his abuse, this must be so painful for her to sit through. ❤️

[@jennifersmith6255]

Watching different channels reactions to that testimony is difficult. I know, from my poor sweet unbelievably strong and loving husband, dealing with a BPD person is HARD! I still have to remind myself that I may not be seeing things the way they really are and always go thru a checklist in my mind before I react to anything. If Johnny loses this case I’ll be sad for him, but I’m already so glad to see BPD brought out and talked about. It’s a cruel joke on the person that deals with it. Again, don’t come for me, I’m not on her side, but ugh, it’s just so hard to hear those things about yourself in private, I can’t imagine it being broadcast for the whole world. I hope she sees the truth for herself and puts in the work to reign herself in, cuz she’s the only one that really can.

[@CollateralDamage93]

Dr. Curry is literally who I am in school to become. I needed this so much for motivation and direction and inspiration.

[@lucianagibert4925]

Me too, get the feeling!

[@equality379]

Oooo sounds like you have a wonderful future ahead. Best wishes ! 🙌🏼

[@Trth1707]

Good luck, so hope you achieve what you want, she has worked for years, obviously loves her subject though and is so good.

[@llirman]

Best of luck to you❤️

[@stephaniecornwell8766]

I would like to become a behavior/body language expert. Mostly to validate that I can read people pretty dang accurately by observing and listening to them

[@crystalfarmer4074]

Did Dr. Curry just basically say AH doesn't have PTSD but she did try to fake having it in a big way? I cannot get over the way AH demeanor, mannerisms, and facial expressions have changed with Dr. Curry on the stand. When she said AH didn't have PTSD I swear AH had a look of that's ok let me catch you outside. No wonder she didn't want Dr. Curry testifying.

[@cynthiabiel7714]

Yes... she does not even look like herself.

[@johannawigg6921]

She probably also hates that Dr Curry is attractive.... I know it sounds petty but I know narcissistic people and looks is a big part of how they make themselves feel superior , bet it ate her up inside 😏

[@karatekaninen3045]

The same Dr Curry in court: I didn't think it was important to mention that I had dinner and drinks at JD's place before giving AH diagnoses

[@carolinec9618]

@@karatekaninen3045 the ‘dinner and drinks’ was an interview between her and Johnny’s team to determine if she would be a suitable choice. dinner and drinks were just served

[@karatekaninen3045]

@@carolinec9618 The dinneer and drinks took place at JD's home and since Dr Curry testified to not meet clients and have dinner and drinks at their places I think she simply got startstruck. She was a really good witness in my opinion when she got questions she was prepped for from JD's lawyers but if I was a jury I would raise an eyebrow seeing that she not only did she have dinner and drinks at his place but she also just happened to fins the exact same diagnoses that JD's lawyer had already drawn up on the papers. To be honest I think both JD and AH both are bending the truth and of course they both will have expertwitnesses that says what the yare being paid for.

[@aquas9525]

Coming back after seeing AH testify; Dr Curry’s description of her disorders is spot on!

[@lynnegackstetter2779]

I have fallen asleep in a hammock and changed my position in my sleep and fallen out of the hammock . I was completely sober. It happens.😴😌😊

[@pollydowdlepolly]

Dr. Curry is incredibly impressive. Not only does she have incredible theoretical and clinical knowledge, she has a unique ability to convey it to an average person - not only so they understand but so they have an unbelievable NEED to know more. The jury must have been clinging to every word!

[@rockforester7908]

Good comment.

[@rosien7334]

Dr. Curry is one bad ass woman!!! She is so knowledgeable and explains everything in a very clear and engaging way

[@lydiakilby3472]

The psychologist! Hell yes she was doing some reading! The smartest person in the room. What a stellar witness! She made Amber's incredibly annoying attorney look like she'll be needing some serious therapy asap! I myself have had "issues" that require a psychiatrist for most of my life. This doctor would be a Godsend in my opinion. Thank you for your excellent work.

[@marbles3315]

Currently dealing with gallstones and am extremely stressed about my surgery in 3 days, but your channel is helping me stay calm and handle things better. I’m not sure how to explain this, but the way you talk and explain things is calming and somewhat grounding (in a mindfulness sense) which really helps with my panic attacks. Love your intro by the way, “facts not fuckery” XD

[@simplysophisticated6942]

Unbelievable testimony. I’ve watched a TON of criminal trials and love true crime. I have NEVER seen a witness this good, this knowledgeable and this beneficial to any court proceedings. She reminds me a bit of Janeen DeMarte, the expert witness for the prosecution in the Jodi Arias trial. Let the women do the work!! Loved every bit of this analysis, Emily. Thank you so much!

[@nera1536]

I wish I'd get the chance to get clinically assessed by Dr. Curry

[@stephaniecornwell8766]

Sounds like you are someone working on themselves and want that info. I’ve wished for something similar. Other perspectives, especially unbiased, are so helpful to me.

[@MagentaRoseRed]

Same though, currently trying to get seen by my public mental health service and save money for private assessment, which is really hard when you're all kinds of messed up 😂

[@TheWaross]

She costs 500$ per 90 minute sessions. Give her a call

[@nera1536]

@@TheWaross in my country that's a monthly pay check💀i guess I'll stick with buzfeed quizzes

[@rockforester7908]

Surround yourself with loving, supportive people who are not motivated to hurt you more because of their own trauma. Eat healthfully. Cut off those who caused you early trauma as they will not change. Put yourself first. That will be pretty helpful even if you can’t engage someone like this. Take care.

[@TaliaSC]

I’m re-watching this testimony… now that we’ve seen amber’s and a number of her witnesses. Things now make so much more sense! Also, the notes amber was making? They are areas in which she needed to alter her stories, and work on her ‘new lines’. Like a change to her script. Honestly, so many more things make sense now!

[@ruschkajaffer7619]

Ambers later testimony resembles this exact style creepy

[@worldgonecrazy-y6k]

It is insane how well her testimony fits all that AH said and was doing on the stand. Someone should put this side by side and compare her testimony with what AH does, it is almost uncanny how well she charakterised AH.

[@elizabethperry3758]

You made such an amazing point during the 15 minute morning break about "I have questions". That is exactly how I've felt my entire life and have always been met with abrasive pushback as if it is a personal attack. It is not an attack, I simply want to understand everything. As a domestic violence and rape victim, I want to believe every single victim every single time whether it's a woman or a man but with this situation, I have questions. Thank you for being so honest and inspiring me to enroll in college to become a paralegal at 32!

[@rachaelkopp3792]

Funny the expert brought up her mimicking Johnny's outfit choices. Honestly everything she said checked the boxes for Amber n her actions! Soo on point!

[@LuckyNMaja]

Musk was also quoted as saying that his relationship with Heard was based on common interests, such as science. Was Heard known to be interested in science before she met Musk? Another example of mirroring the person she wanted attention from?

[@rockforester7908]

My guess would be Musk was being sarcastic.

[@LuckyNMaja]

@@rockforester7908 That would make it make sense as well. 😆

[@Elong.]

JD said that AH liked jazz music and poetry. I have to wonder if this was her mirroring his interests.

[@AdamF90]

Amber could comb through KZbin videos and magazine articles and quite easily cultivate a list of music and books Depp has mentioned and do a deep dive into that genre to create the facade that she’s knowledgeable to impress him

[@krispeekream]

“Common interests” including banging out Cara Delevigne 😂

[@Scottish-Ali-C]

Wow! The numbers you're getting for this, Emily! SO proud to be a long term law nerd - was a sub for a year or so before I was a member (finances didn't allow) and I'm SO proud!! I'm like a proud Mama Bear!! Lol! All the best from Kilmacolm, Scotland, via Manchester, England!

[@Muertenoir]

They need to stop trying to establish that Johnny Depp had substance abuse issues. No shit. No one is saying he didn't and just having an addiction does not mean he's physically abusive.

[@SaVanityVan]

They harp on it because it's quite literally all they have. There's no evidence he abused her, while there is evidence she lied about it, and evidence that she did abuse him. Beating it into the jury's mind that he's an out of control junkie and relying on people's association of addict = violent and out of control is the only hope they have.

[@fsshtck]

Okay, but it is relevant that AH has a mental illness? You see the double standard here? Y'all wild.

[@ModernwomanEsmie]

I like her style if questioning… it’s very clean and crisp to the point .. keeps the peoples attention

[@christinelee314]

As someone with BPD and BiPolar, this was so hard to watch and happy that most people could at least some sympathy. It's horrific and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

[@waronassange]

Same here; though mine is Bi 2. What I found disturbing was how many times Dr Curry could be discussing me. I also liked how most of the negativity I saw towards AH was about a repudiation of her action rather than some bias toward her mental health.

[@skilltes037]

As a mental health professional, BPD has always been a special interest of mind to the point that I would call it my niche. I didn't know why I got wrapped up in this trial until statements made me think that she may have had BPD. With the Drs confirmation, I fully understand why I was immediately hooked into this.

[@mirimiriela480]

Umbridge sounds like the substitute teacher who's mad that the students won't take her seriously.

[@Mayhamm]

Lmao yesssss !!!!

[@ӇЄ0Ӈ-ф5в]

💯😂😭

[@mermaiddiyartist8119]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 funny

[@sophiaisabella7795]

Exactly !!😂

[@_spooT]

This has got to be THE most embarrassing moment throughout the span of the entire trial. They tried to pull their cards again and thought it would work but all it did was back fire. What made them think they could pull shit like this to a psychologist nonetheless?

[@LeggoMyMeg0]

Rewatching Dr Curry after watching Ambers testimony…it’s like a movie trailer for what we can expect. It’s spooky.

[@Sheri487]

I would love love love to hear Emily’s take on the rest of this testimony even now

[@meganmoon6197]

Watching this AFTER Amber’s testimony and it’s really strange to hear the explanation about what was so off about Amber’s testimony. This is very very interesting.

[@soymajia]

Your hair is on point!!!! Have fun on your adventures. How I wish it was here in NY! Just arrived for Spilling Tea Live with your boys! Thanks for this coverage! You rock and I became a LAW NERD! 🥰💜💜💜💜

[@avrilallison8224]

It’s so nice to listen to your comments and I actually love watching you. I came across you by accident . Absolutely thrilled that I did. You’re bright , great sense of humour and you’re real. Those are the attributes that come across to me about you Emily

[@irrelevantmrna3400]

i really hope that the jury sees what we see

[@susiefrades-white3088]

Dr Curry is SO watchable... She is so well spoken and intelligent. She seems like she will tell it like it is but in such a kind and helpful way.

[@asthajindal5275]

Watching Emily and chat try to keep an open mind towards Elaine, calling her hard to listen to but the smartest lawyer on AH's team, and knowing with the benefit of hindsight how soon all that is to change by 180 degrees is really hilarious😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣.

[@asthajindal5275]

Also, no one can remember her name at present so everyone's calling her Umbridge. In just a few weeks ELAaaaaa....INE would never be in any danger of being forgotten😂

[@morgangrace383]

I studied Psychology for 6 years, college emphasis was in Personality and while I'm not able to diagnose (yet), but I am a Qualified Mental Health Professional with over 7 years of experience, 2 of those in Forensic Psychology Case Management. I've been saying since these audio recordings came out that she sounds like she has characteristics are narcissism, borderline, and histrionic. How wild. Not surprised and it explains a lot of Amber's behavior. I've talked to many women whom present as she does.

[@REEEEDACTED]

do you think this trial will cause trauma for her since they’re sharing all of her private mental health issues?

[@QTpatootie95]

You do know that these personality disorders are born from extreme trauma correct? And since you’re not able to diagnose you shouldn’t.

[@zahzahzee]

That's not a diagnosis, that's an colloquial speculation based on past experience.

[@Densenugs]

I was thinking borderline from the start! Was glad to hear I was on the mark

[@aoifeandginny5569]

@@QTpatootie95 She said ''sounds like she has characteristics '' not that Amber has them. Plus she arguably has more information about Amber than the regular psychologist has, meaning usually they only get the patient's perspective and their word rather than recordings of outbursts.

[@jackeeB]

Is anyone else back here after this week's testimony from AH? I thought Dr. Curry was enlightening the first go around but the second time is 🤯

[@mss_tanja]

Here to rewatch Dr Curry💛✨

[@unpopularopinion6607]

I loved the doctor's testimony! She was so amazing and I was particularly pleased to see her hold her own against Elaine.

[@simlyss]

Re-watching Dr Curry’s testimony after watching AH is so crazy to see how correct she is about everything AH would be like. AH is gonna have a tough time on cross then having Dr Curry come back 😆

[@RyunaRin]

As Emily said while Dr. Curry was explaining personality disorders, the diagnoses of BPD and HPD are explanations of behaviors but not excuses. Having one disorder or the other, or even a combination of them, does not exclusively mean you will be an abusive person. There is still a level of accountability to be taken that has nothing to do with the disorders, especially when taking into consideration the moments of manipulative speech, the calculative setups such as the kitchen recording and the audio recording of her challenging JD to claim himself as a DV victim with notion that no one would believe him because of his gender. Amber Heard may need psychological help, and we can hope that she gets it, but she still needs to be held accountable for her conscious decisions and actions. A diagnosis does not make her exempt from personal accountability nor should the actions be directly related to the majority of those who are diagnosed with these disorders.

[@jeishiikanzaki]

1000% this. Thank you for this.

[@dreamzofhorses]

I know a few people (have had them as clients) with BPD and all of them behaved in similar ways in their personal intimate relationships and could not maintain friendships over the long term because of their insecurities, jealousies, accusations, being unfaithful themselves… it’s the hallmark of a borderline personality to have volatile unsteady personal relationships and being unable to maintain long term relationships. And yes, it seems beyond their ability to control their feelings and reactions to those feelings. And yes everyone I knew with this diagnoses would create drama, have abusive even violent tendencies (against others or themselves- had one client stab her boyfriend and attempt suicide on a few occasions) and yes they will make false accusations, plot elaborate schemes to get the other to prove their love or loyalty or exact revenge (mental illness doesn’t mean they are stupid)… so while she will be held accountable as she should and her worst fears are coming true - exposure and abandonment - which will be one measure of consequences, her inability to control her emotions and disordered behaviors will hopefully be taken into consideration at sentencing. She is very very psychologically ill.

[@jennifersmith6255]

Oh she definitely needs help. Her little jerks during the “cabinets being slammed” was very sad because it was very clear that she was “acting”. In almost any but the worst types of mental illness the person absolutely still needs to be held accountable for their behavior. You have to own your own issues and once pointed out, you need to deal with them. Breaking someone else is not excusable. Destroying a career, a lifetime of achievement is wrong in so many ways. I don’t want anyone to think that you get a free ride when you get a diagnosis. All you really get is a chance to learn from your mistakes and how to reign your anger and anxiety in. I am pro Johnny all the way. I didn’t even know who she was until this all started. Dr. Curry is amazing and hope Amber gets her head on straight after hearing Dr. C.

[@msuew94]

@@dreamzofhorses not all people with borderline are physically violent- or if they are it can also present in a self deprecating way, is it more common that the ones with that symptom of violence are more commonly diagnosed for obvious reasons but not all are that way

[@QTpatootie95]

dreamzofhorses you’re painting a spectrum with an incredibly broad brush and I hope you don’t work in the mental health field if you have such a bias towards those who have trauma born mental illness

[@TooTTiFruiTTi]

This is a great witness. She is so eloquent, easy to understand.

[@Fyrecide]

I could honestly watch Dr Curry talk about her work for hours. She’s intelligent, well spoken/eloquent, direct without being abrasive, firm without being forceful or confrontational, driven, successful, and she is exceptionally well composed, pretty much like Johnny and his entire team 😅 The fact that she’s incredibly attractive doesn’t hurt matters much either if I’m being perfectly honest. It’s honestly kind of unfair 🤣

[@luminyam6145]

This trial and finding you and the other lawyers like Legal Bytes have changed my view of the law and lawyers forever. I am so impressed by your intelligence and compassion. Thank you.

[@TheEmilyDBaker]

Thank you for this tremendous compliment. LawTube is a special place with a lot of lawyers who want to help everyone understand how the law works, how it plays out in real life cases and this one has captivated us all.

[@RVincents]

I am an expert on hair and makeup. I owned and operated my salon ans Dayspa for 20 years I worked in the field for 35 years... I formulate products. I am an award winning makeup artist because of my formulations and artistry. I have a degree in science in Natura health. I also was planning a weeding in the Bahamas at the Ocean Club/Atlantis...I went there every year in December to January and a few times for events I can assure the humidity and heat was far too much for me and we decided to have the Wedding in Florida which was still humid but more manageable. The Schvitz is real down there it's a walking steam bath I cannot see a bride taking that chance with her dress unless she had 2 dresses... Her makeup pallette to cover bruises is not ideal. I am very well aquainted with that wheel in several brands.. Usually they are made from the same handful of companies They use that on dark circles under eyes and ok the pigments do correct some lighter problems BUT they are not opaque enough to cover bruises...Also the heat and humidity would melt that off, it blooms and turns darker. It would DEFINITELY be noticeable and not look natural I do have extensive experience in this... One example was a mother of a bride that had bad bruises on her face from a car accident and several clients with port wine stains any many with melasma... I have even had clients with face cuts and scars I use liquid latex to cover for photos etc. The color neutralizing concealer works to a certain extent but it's not enough. Opposites on the color wheel neutralize each other.. That is color law. If you use yellow to neutralize purple aka a bruise... It browns out. Especially in heat. If it's a lighter bruise and you have an excellent skin tone concealer and foundation you can get away with it but if it's dark it doesn't look natural. It will look brown... Some try orange over a blue bruise that also browns out... It looks like makeup especially on someone as pale as she is.. It does work better on someone with olive skin or darker complectio or tanned skin. On very pale skin.. This would not be enough... It would be noticeable... If she had a team and other products to help her. She should have stated that... She was trying to sound like an expert with a product that honestly would not be enough Especially in the humidity and heat What does work Is white makeup like clown makeup... With titanium dioxide in it to make it opaque... It covers a bruise and it looks white. Powder it in I used a special white powder I mixed myself to prevent color bloom ... And then apply a flesh tones concealer over it...but that can pull up the makeup if you are not careful... I used Airbrush Makeup over that. So you don't move the product around.. In the heat makeup melts, blooms and sweat will make you want to wipe your face.. Also facial bruises usually have some swelling. This makes the area look raised and the pores can look enlarged... The heat and humidity can make that worse I assume Amber had a team of experts helping her... Even so she would know that this is a process that takes time between each layer. Not just a light concealer. She would need something along the lines of theatrical makeup or very high coverage But when she showed what she used... If I were on her team there would be no wayyy I would let her show up with just that wheel. She is an actress she has access to special effects artists... They are amazing We know Johnny is the King of actors who special effects makeup. So why would she pick something we know is not enough for severe bruises. I question her completely. Personally all I am hearing in her testimony and others was.. Johnny wanted to walk away during a fight and she couldn't handle it. She got physical trying to keep him there. Also what was that couch couch couch audio we heard in another day of testimony... She treated him like a dog.. A literal dog.. She was degrading. We hear him time and again beg to be let go. He sounds like the one afraid and abused...

[@Emmastayofftheinternet]

As someone who has a best friend with bpd and histrionic personality disorder she is describing mt friends behavior perfectly. My best friend is a lovely kind person however.

[@jeishiikanzaki]

I hope I am never a witness. I would get in trouble. "I'm sorry, ma'am, why are you so angry at me for answering your questions?"

[@thecatlimitdoesnotexist]

I was definitely asleep during Tara Roberts testimony and cross this morning so watching on the replay and OMG I just feel like Umbridge is yelling at me when asking her questions…. If I feel that way through a screen I can only imagine how the jury feels! At least the audio isn’t garbage with how loudly she was talking. 😂

[@MyTurquoiseCrayon]

I just want to say that I searched for your live video of the court case all afternoon at work and I’m really sad I missed it live ☹️. Your commentary is everything.

[@kateashby3066]

Emily, I have BPD AND I have had a woman do to me what Amber did to JD so this trial triggered me left and right! But months later I wanted to rewatch it with your commentary because I value your insight. I can’t thank you enough for your voice of reason and compassion regarding mental illness and how it’s not ok for us to judge and condemn. It’s natural to be upset at what AH did but we still have to remember that underneath the ick is a human being who needs help. Remembering this helped me forgive the woman who did this to me and it helps me to recover from my own BPD. We all need to remember that abused children do not grow up to act functionally and healthy. In that sentence alone we can all find some tolerance and compassion for the little girls and boys who grew up to have addictions, personality disorders, etc. and that’s also my story. 💜

[@mtz6198]

Watching on replay- signed out of work for the day when I realized I deeply wanted scream WTF??? to my team and rewarding myself for a super long day with a drink and EDB and the law nerds. Thank you all for reminding me intelligent thinking people exist :)

[@anonymoushuman8443]

I’m really getting into this case. It’s overwhelming since I’m not too familiar with all the facts but this channel is amazing and you explain a lot of the legal court nuances really well. I’m learning a lot 🤓

[@irenedgchannel]

I'm watching dr. Curry testimony after watching all the direct and cross examinations of JD and AH and OMG

[@mrs.d3611]

I didn't watch all of the trial live and some parts I am watching now. The jury was absolutely right- 'her lawyers only had sharp elbows'. They had no evidence, only evidence against their clients, but they wanted to score points on technicalities, semantics and splitting hairs..Elaine is the same as Amber.

[@HB-ey2dk]

40:20 "she got a $10 raise y'all, hold your f!ckin butts" 😂 that made me snort.

[@olhydra]

Milani lawyer lady makes me bristle. I hate the way she objected to everything but then acted so offended when objections were raised against her lol

[@anonymoususer4866]

Milani lawyer aka Elaine😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@dylankennedy4539]

They both should be disbarred IMO like its depressing that people could rely on these clowns for their representation in court.

[@rockforester7908]

If someone were to throw a drink in her face during lunch, and I were sitting at the next table, I would not offer her a towel.

[@sekichdawn3913]

@@dylankennedy4539 I wouldn't hire Elaine to fight a speeding ticket for me.😊🤦🤪

[@KedRoscoe]

The psychologist is a very good teacher, I mean, I'm kinda interested in knowing more about personality disorders now

[@Mjolnir200508]

Rewatching the testimonies with your commentary for the first time, hence the delayed comment. Also hence the reference to a song that wasn’t out at the time. At 2:19:19, when you mentioned being “that friend”, who is always late for dinner, all I could hear was Taylor Swift’s Anti-hero and I thought you’d enjoy hearing someone else mention how they immediately go to a song when they hear something. I also forgot how completely riveted I was by Dr. Curry. Like, I have a full time job and three kids, and I wanted to immediately study Psychology. My late mother did, but never practised, but did raise seven kids who all fell apart when she died ten years ago, so maybe she did practise after all! 😂 “It’s me. Hi! I’m the problem. It’s me.”

[@TheVioletteStar]

Thank you for doing these and uploading them for the replay crew. Amber’s team getting so aggressive on cross makes me anxious so being able to pause/take a break is very helpful. Thank you for all that you do, Emily!!

[@alannahhawks1621]

Ay the new year you were sloooowly rolling over 200k and now the subs are flying in! Emily so deserves it! I’ll listen to you talk about anything any day. Congrats!

[@kimfox5071]

This is great that this assessment was ordered as it’s important for Amber to know this and then Get help to change and recover. Many don’t and refuse to accept it but hopefully she will work on herself and not hurt others and for her child also.

[@calmdowngurl]

What I am seeing and observing is a repetition of Johnny's trauma as a boy and a huge mistake in trusting this girl who obviously has issues of her own and was not able to let him "have space" when arguing starts. It's hard to listen to. As a Psychotherapist listening, there is so much projection going on and manipulation from A. It's sad the damage that has been done and hoping all sides can get closure and move on ...........❤️❤️☮️🙏🎶🦋Yes, really makes sense with psychological explanation by Dr. of A.

[@CollateralDamage93]

I’m psychologist in training and I’m not diagnosing anything but i was having a hard time as well because of the huge contrast in animation from ah vs minimal animation in jd reactions. It was truly painful to hear.

[@donnakay147]

OMG... Umbridge is channelling the teacher who speaks at the council meeting in the great an hilarious movie Blazing Sadles (She's very shouty shout)

[@xinn0c3nc3]

I have BPD. seeing some of the things I've seen in the past 24 hours was difficult. I've often said that I wouldn't wish the "BPD spiral" on my worst enemy. the recordings of Amber crying as Johnny tries to leave hit different when you can put yourself there and feel that desperation in a different way. but I can also remember a partners face as I physically blocked the bedroom door. there are truly no winners in a relationship with a person who has untreated/uncontrolled BPD. you can medicate the symptoms of BPD, but it's not like bi-polar disorder where just medication can kind of keep you leveled. I was on FIVE psychiatric medications at one point and still self harming and struggling. BPD is painful, even when you're inflicting pain too. that all being said, I've never said or done something hateful and not immediately had regret over my behavior. I have broken things, thrown things, hurt people and then literally sobbed with shame and regret for my anger three minutes later. it feels like an out of body experience to not be able to regulate your emotions in that moment, but to know it's not right or ok. the amount of work I had to do on myself for myself was substantial. I couldn't get therapy and had to work to become mindful and I feel like a different person often now. there are of course still things that literally "trigger" me, but I've learned to handle myself so much better. a person has to know they need to put in the work. when I was diagnosed, the psychiatrist didn't even tell me. I was at a psychiatric urgent care center and they just put it in my chart. the RELIEF it gave me to have answers about years of emotional dysregulation was crazy. but you have to WANT the answers. you have to WANT better. and after that diagnosis, what you do with it is up to you. when I watch her reaction to this, I don't see discomfort the way others do. Amber looks angry to me... frustrated, smug, bored even. I don't understand why she wouldn't want to help herself and get better. maybe that's the HPD, which I don't think I can relate to at all. I would love to have the information and resources she does. I would love to have this kind of evaluation, of course without it being broadcast to the world. I don't think she's a monster, but I don't understand her level of manipulation and seemingly refusing any accountability. even st my worst, I always apologized for the things I did and felt awful.

[@bethanychatman9531]

I'm so happy for you doing better and feeling better. Thank you for the insight as well.

[@kendallneason3645]

Brave of you to help us understand this BPD condition better. I think AH didn’t go into her childhood much due to some things that may have happened that made her disorder emerge. We should have compassion and empathy for all. But lying and continuing to hurt her former husband is wrong. I hope she finds help and healing. Sounds like you have worked hard to find out why you are the way you are. Good for you! ❤

[@RVincents]

I am enjoying this channel! You are excellent at what you do. You have a great way of expressing yourself and getting to THE Point!

[@sg-tu2qi]

Dr. Curry talks to the jury in such an engaging way that I want to raise my hand and ask questions! lol

[@simplebeauty120]

I’m literally jealous of everyone that gets to see Dr. Curry, I wish she could be my Dr.

[@veronicamcminn7775]

Today was so entertaining! Johnny Depp has the best witnesses. They are all just cool people doing their jobs. Ben was great, love the Island Manager, the psychiatrist was outstanding! The cop was even chill yea I went didn’t see anything and left. Adding up to Johnny winning! I hope he gets his name cleared and get his life back!

[@tommyross3298]

I tried to watch the LegalBytes coverage, and... they kept saying Dr. Curry was stigmatizing mental illness, and that her testimony was "not a good look." I... don't understand people sometimes

[@RustyClumps]

I was diagnosed with C-PTSD after multiple evals, including 6 hrs with a neuropsychologist. BPD can be misdiagnosed initially as PTSD because both have emotion dysregulation, but further testing clarifies. That’s how Heard could have been diagnosed PTSD mistakenly.