VTuber Tropes: The Mommy

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Depressed Nousagi

Depressed Nousagi

Жыл бұрын

The Mommy is a staple trope that a lot of VTubers identify with and play as their characters. Utilizing motherly feel, calming aura, and even sexy, domineering techniques, the mommy is an effective trope that's very much still in demand these days.
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@DepressedNousagi
@DepressedNousagi Жыл бұрын
ok so i know fauna wasn't serious with her cowkini thing. I just wanted to use it as an example to explain her sexual appeal uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 😭😭
@fallingcrane1986
@fallingcrane1986 Жыл бұрын
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@4thDT
@4thDT Жыл бұрын
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
@TheRandomxperson
@TheRandomxperson Жыл бұрын
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@diegoizaguirre3452
@diegoizaguirre3452 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video, not sure if this is allowed but can you do a video about both tsunderes and the top bottom switch spectrum, I have a bone (not in that sense, god no in that sense) to pick with akuma nimune ( personally I think she is a bit problematic considering that the tropes she tries to do make her a bit toxic) would recommend Elly and juniper actias as contrasts, an analysis on what makes a community punching bag (good case Ashley Nicole’s, bad case onesion ), a possible collab with VIL (vtuber I love, which is the name of the youtubers channel) and how honesty makes all the difference from a good ol nagatorro and a toxic dress up darling. TLDR (though probably should) tsunderes and the top bottom switch spectrum is very interesting topic and I dislike numi abit. Hopefully this isn’t asking much of you and some of my suggestions might be that out there but I just want some insight on some things I’ve noticed on how the tsundere trope is getting exausted and it correlations to the top bottom switch spectrum.
@IIB14NKII
@IIB14NKII Жыл бұрын
uuuuuuu
@earthboundgod95
@earthboundgod95 Жыл бұрын
Broke: GF experience Woke: Mommy experience Ascended: Menhera stalking parasocial experience
@mrbeemstdraws286
@mrbeemstdraws286 Жыл бұрын
Extra ascended : Fantia / DLSITE locked content
@victoriazero8869
@victoriazero8869 Жыл бұрын
> Check Nazuna more like damnation
@CyAA-ri2us
@CyAA-ri2us Жыл бұрын
Inb4 "VTuber violently stalks male fan after he gives her a super chat that, according to her, made her fall in love."
@walearr
@walearr Жыл бұрын
So...phase connect is agency that specializes in ascended?
@ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers
@ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers Жыл бұрын
@@CyAA-ri2us let's add that to my list of shit that never will happen
@jasoncarto
@jasoncarto Жыл бұрын
Fauna is the Oneesan who raised you when your parents died. Still young but very mature. The ultimate example of the genre.
@LibJumper
@LibJumper Жыл бұрын
Like Nani in Lilo & Stitch, I can see that.
@whysmile9412
@whysmile9412 Жыл бұрын
wow you described it really well. i like that sentiment
@MenrvaS
@MenrvaS Жыл бұрын
Yor Briar?
@constantine166
@constantine166 11 ай бұрын
Exactly this👍
@NightmareZV
@NightmareZV 11 ай бұрын
That's an interesting way to see it
@garchompelago
@garchompelago Жыл бұрын
The dad: Calli The mommy: Fauna The auntie: Baelz That weirdass uncle: Ame The grandma: Marine Its basically a family now.
@ImperialEmbers
@ImperialEmbers Жыл бұрын
I'd say Marine is an older sister rather than a grandma.
@ResidentChef
@ResidentChef Жыл бұрын
​@@ImperialEmbers huffing the copium I see
@nutshot_brawler8466
@nutshot_brawler8466 Жыл бұрын
No way, Bae is that younger cousin that makes you feel like the oldest person in the world even though you're only in your 20s
@ImperialEmbers
@ImperialEmbers Жыл бұрын
@@ResidentChef What does this mean?
@ImperialEmbers
@ImperialEmbers Жыл бұрын
@@nutshot_brawler8466 I agree.
@omganotherun
@omganotherun Жыл бұрын
Fauna calling her fans "Saplings" also helps put her viewers into the Mommy mindset. She is also very wholesome about her speech, like how she refuses to curse for any reason. Remember her telling a childhood story of how she got that way.
@SunnyBlam
@SunnyBlam Жыл бұрын
Is there a clip of that?
@sakiamira
@sakiamira Жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t she wanna curse?
@KanjengPempek
@KanjengPempek Жыл бұрын
@@SunnyBlam maybe this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3exfKmEgLehf5I
@Rageouz
@Rageouz Жыл бұрын
For the story of Fauna and cursing, it's just she never picked up the habit of swearing and when she did swear one time in middle school she was so ashamed of herself she swore herself to never swear again
@Kalingrato
@Kalingrato Жыл бұрын
@@SunnyBlam There sure is. It is very wholesome. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3exfKmEgLehf5I
@KeebeThePlush
@KeebeThePlush Жыл бұрын
Fauna is the literal embodiment of Mother Nature, her character is top tier unironically
@inanimatesum4945
@inanimatesum4945 Жыл бұрын
Fauna really set out to be Onee-san but Hololive knew she was a mommy. A series on these tropes would definitely be good and interesting to talk about the loose connections solidifying people into them.
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref Жыл бұрын
I think she falls in that range of being your older sister but the older sister that has taken care of you for years. The "it's my sister, but acts like your mom" trope.
@pannacotta9493
@pannacotta9493 Жыл бұрын
Fauna : become sexy by not doing sexy things Suichan : become sexy by not doing sexy things
@justanotherkusa1582
@justanotherkusa1582 Жыл бұрын
Its all about supply and demand
@chitandaeru7239
@chitandaeru7239 Жыл бұрын
Ngl Suisei lewds tend to be hotter due to the contrast of how she actually carry herself.
@ultrarizor4666
@ultrarizor4666 Жыл бұрын
Nousagi somehow went from biology to an oedipus complex and yet still made me follow along without confusion
@floatingpasta8099
@floatingpasta8099 Жыл бұрын
Just like jojos
@imahoare4742
@imahoare4742 Жыл бұрын
Fauna appeals to my deep seeded mommy issues.
@NicoDoesLP
@NicoDoesLP Жыл бұрын
It's deep-seated. However, in the case of Fauna, I'll accept seeded here lol
@edwardvilla3228
@edwardvilla3228 Жыл бұрын
No matter what we breath we stilll are made of seed, this is my kingdom come.
@Circ00mspice
@Circ00mspice Жыл бұрын
Like a certain cosplayer
@HS-mn6jc
@HS-mn6jc Жыл бұрын
I had separation issues with my mom as a toddler and ngl I think I would have been completely over my mommy issues had Fauna not come along LMAOOO she pulled me RIGHT back in
@StarboyXL9
@StarboyXL9 11 ай бұрын
@@HS-mn6jc But its so comfy in here
@difficulthail516
@difficulthail516 Жыл бұрын
Our favorite nousagi has returned
@roku-casualenjoyer555
@roku-casualenjoyer555 Жыл бұрын
Always have been
@imam5623
@imam5623 Жыл бұрын
Nope
@edwardvilla3228
@edwardvilla3228 Жыл бұрын
Speak 4 urself
@lyravain6304
@lyravain6304 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardvilla3228 He is. Also; numbers aren't words. And you need to learn better spelling.
@johnapple6646
@johnapple6646 Жыл бұрын
@@lyravain6304 n0 h3 d0esn7
@remforrest
@remforrest Жыл бұрын
As a Sapling and hearing you mention Oedipus complex made me laugh. I see her more as a sister type.
@RawBlue
@RawBlue Жыл бұрын
As a fellow Sapling I totally agree, although there are some mommy vibes at times
@WhosManIsThis
@WhosManIsThis Жыл бұрын
Same with scarle. The scarling all thought she a mommy NAH she the goofiest big sister u can get.
@space_bread
@space_bread Жыл бұрын
I assure you this person cries when they don't see her. Smh
@SelecaoOfMidas
@SelecaoOfMidas Жыл бұрын
@@RawBlue Yep. If we're going by the example given, it makes sense. No straight-up outward appearance at being assertively sexy all the time, but... there are situations, and very controlled when it happens.
@SelecaoOfMidas
@SelecaoOfMidas Жыл бұрын
@@WhosManIsThis We all thought that, but things changed after debut really quickly, and I love it. I mean... You let Scarle cook, but sometimes you second guess that decision. 😅
@secretasianman108
@secretasianman108 Жыл бұрын
I never could quite succinctly pin down Fauna's appeal, so I just sorta categorized her into the in-between space bridging the "mommy" and "mom-friend" archetypes.
@loopholemusic8368
@loopholemusic8368 Жыл бұрын
You forgot a really important part of why people see Fauna as a mommy. She doesn't swear, even a little bit.
@holobeans
@holobeans Жыл бұрын
Not true, real saps know she swears in karaoke 😤😂 (on accident)
@husariuspl117
@husariuspl117 Жыл бұрын
I remember Mumei being suprised when Fauna actually said "shut up" when talking about some video game character that annoyed her, saying she never heard her telling anyone to shut up And considering that one Ender Dragon stream where she was basically the only organized one while everyone else was being chaoting (some by accident like Sana) the furthest she went was "No! Don't do it or I will be mad!"
@Fairyhell
@Fairyhell Жыл бұрын
A wise man once said, "if sexuality is all you can offer then it is all people want from you". Eventually they'll go looking for something else. In all vtuber group, I like Hololive the most because the talents are 'grounded'. There are rules and lines they cannot cross. Those rules are for the benefit of both the talents and viewers.
@abdoufma
@abdoufma Жыл бұрын
Very well put
@MioshaEnjoyer
@MioshaEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
Man, got high hopes that he’s gonna describe Mio-mama specifically, knowing that she do have motherly laugh, all streams are comfy, and not to mention always pamper both fans and holomems, and rarely shows sexual appeal (except the suspect dance, caught me off guard), should needed more attention 😔
@DepressedNousagi
@DepressedNousagi Жыл бұрын
@forgame
@forgame Жыл бұрын
For motherly, I still give it to Mio to be the best of all
@amalanparty
@amalanparty Жыл бұрын
As a sapling, it was mainly the green hair that attracted me to her. Green = best. After seeing her debut tho...From the motherly vibe, to the slight hint of yandere, and just the comfy voice and personality she gives, I'm happy to have given my support for her, from then to now and as long as she's around. I'll also have you know that I've only cried 3 times today in wanting more Fauna. UUU.
@SomeBuddy555
@SomeBuddy555 Жыл бұрын
normal for a sapling
@Fanimati0n
@Fanimati0n Жыл бұрын
Fauna's strongest sapling
@StarboyXL9
@StarboyXL9 11 ай бұрын
@@Fanimati0n Fauna gives her longest wait times to her strongest saplings
@unsuspectingman
@unsuspectingman Жыл бұрын
I’m glad Fauna is the thumbnail. In my opinion, she set a precedent for the archetype that basically everyone follows nowadays. (I’m not saying that she made it, just that everyone follows what she does)
@unsuspectingman
@unsuspectingman Жыл бұрын
“Her thighs and her feet are a bit yabai”, what a line
@DreamyAileen
@DreamyAileen Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say that, if anything she's an outlier in the "mommy VTuber" scene
@GranMaj
@GranMaj Жыл бұрын
Honestly, i can't see Fauna as a mommy trope anymore solely because her is such a memelord. the biggest reason i like fauna is because of her random dumb tangent. And she is not a normies memelord either, she is in the deepfried variety.
@TheRealJohnux
@TheRealJohnux Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, when Faunas Vibes and personality Collide With the fact that she has atleast more than 13+ years of Internet knowledge, memes and obscure things at that, the most random topics that come out without warning and a mindset best described as competitve.
@stormwatcheagle5448
@stormwatcheagle5448 Жыл бұрын
Yeah like, if you actually watch her content, you realize she's the least seiso in the gen (besides maybe Sana, who is eternal). It's just that she is far more sophisticated than most with her innuendo and knows not to spam it. She is definitely on the older and "cultured" side of Holomems.
@couchking4223
@couchking4223 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I always got more cultured dorky older sister type from her, she us really supportive of the saplings but has no issue bullying like and older sibling should, the biggest thing for me is she is WAY too cultured in a if you know you know kinda way, she is too close in age for me to consider mommy like her refrences always hit way to close to home like she just like me fr fr, she is a millennial who grew up in the golden age of the internet and is now a professional memelord
@StarboyXL9
@StarboyXL9 11 ай бұрын
"solely because she's such a memelord" That just enhances the mommy appeal for those of us who've been $#!tposting since before the Great Meme Wars
@cikame
@cikame Жыл бұрын
I don't see Fauna as a mommy she's like the EN version of Watame, a comfortable fluffy pillow friend, her cowkini period was hilarious because it's so out of character but you could tell she's passionate about cowkinis for some reason, it's "adorkable", like Watame who WANTS to be sexy but her fans won't let her, these two girls are too pure they can't lewd themselves even if they tried. I know Fauna won the EN mommy poll by a landslide, probably because EN doesn't have one, but i think the most mom member of Hololive is Choco, purposely putting on the onesan voice, always cooking for other members, giving the impression of a well maintained home (famous for her luxury bed), having that character design and teasing viewers, I'll agree with Mio cus she's so insanely wholesome and supportive of her friends.
@santiagomoralesgarcia1802
@santiagomoralesgarcia1802 Жыл бұрын
The hololive EN mommy is Kiara, maybe because she is the older one (maybe), life experience, emotional, and she has done well the mamá role play with Kobo. Fauna is more like an onesan like Ina and sana
@DogratDavis
@DogratDavis Жыл бұрын
Watame would be a Mommy if it weren't for her massive eyes and cute baby shaped head
@cikame
@cikame Жыл бұрын
@@santiagomoralesgarcia1802 I see Kiara as euro genki mixed with crazy cat lady :P
@HudaefCares
@HudaefCares Жыл бұрын
I think Mio is the most mom-like Holomem, even Holomems call her mama. Choco-sensei is actually more like that oneesan who is reliable but also has her immature moments. She has the tendency of doing things she likes obsessively to the point where it's too much. The woman literally ginded endermen to the point she got to lvl 300+ "just because", then lost those levels "just because", then grinded endermen again to level 504... "Just because." She's the only Holomem (other than Sora maybe) that Pekora _really_ didn't wanna kill, coz she felt so guilty of the thought that Choco-sensei will lose 500 levels because of her. Choco-sensei weaponized that guilt and trolled Pekora hard lmao
@NeuronActivation
@NeuronActivation Жыл бұрын
Fauna really portays that motherly vtuber trope very well. Both in model and in voice, plus is goes with her character. Seeing as to how she's known as mother nature.
@Matt-fl6ys
@Matt-fl6ys Жыл бұрын
Rest assured. Fauna does and will pull out a mommy style "Ara Ara" when the need arises. Kobo in her birthday stream recieved the full force of Fauna's "Ara Ara" and Kobo freaked out when it hit and after Fauna left the stream.
@Kris-od3sj
@Kris-od3sj Жыл бұрын
The way you describe Fauna and Saplings' relationship, it reminds me of Suisei and Stargazers' one. The Vtuber not playing into some trait makes the fans want it way more. A different trait, but a similar effect.
@dannyd.9932
@dannyd.9932 Жыл бұрын
I can see where you’re coming from but i for one can’t see Fauna in the mommy category. She fits better with the Oneesan. Maybe that’s just me but it’s what I see.
@megumin-staff6937
@megumin-staff6937 Жыл бұрын
Talking about the mommy trope with that specific monogatari soundtrack is making my brain loose some braincells lol. Thanks for the very infomative video Nousagi
@TheDexDrive
@TheDexDrive Жыл бұрын
Fauna is my oshi i watch (listen) all her streams. I've never saw her as an overall mommy type, rather as a cool but kinda clumsy aunt that visit's from time to time. I just like her Voice it gives me a comfy feeling, but not in a mommy way, i cannot really describe it. If i have to describe the feeling fauna gives me... rather really cute i have the urge to cuddle her all the time (thats the only way i can describe it). Not in a sexual way or anything ive never had any desire to lewd her it just fells not right. The example with the cowkini was good, it felt rather cringe because Fauna is not lewd (most of the time). It felt like she was trying hardcore to be sexy because she saw a trend and hoppet on it. But i heard many people saying that she felt like a mommy, but not for me well maybe thats just me getting older (nearly 30). The only Vtuber i can think of that give me real mommy vibes is a small Indie Vtuber named Lucahjins.
@justin02199x
@justin02199x Жыл бұрын
THE MOMMY Me: I'm into that shit
@yokami_9408
@yokami_9408 Жыл бұрын
Saplings are just all wholesome, it's incredible. It feels like you took every nice human on the planet and put them all in a chat
@SelecaoOfMidas
@SelecaoOfMidas Жыл бұрын
Wholesome, yet h0rny... Sounds like the Takodachis, but less into the 4th WAH. I may or may not have both Ina and Fauna as an Oshi. 😅
@yokami_9408
@yokami_9408 Жыл бұрын
@@SelecaoOfMidas It happens that i may be in the same case Just that Ina is not streaming much lately so i only watch Fauna and i don't feel like Saplings are THAT horny
@husariuspl117
@husariuspl117 Жыл бұрын
@@yokami_9408 I think Sapplings are a special type of horny, less in a lewd way and more in a "we wanna hug her so bad"
@yokami_9408
@yokami_9408 Жыл бұрын
@@husariuspl117 i think this description is pretty accurate xD
@squalleonkeneddyheart4191
@squalleonkeneddyheart4191 Жыл бұрын
That's why Kronii is my Oshi she is one of a Kind. In Paper she is a Narcissist who loves herself and no one else and bounces off with chat in a Comedic relationship. During Girls collabs she is mostly the Bottom of the Joke and is constantly being Bullied and gets her work cut out for her and loses. During Male collabs she is the Opposite and is the one Dominating and make the Boys look like the Jokes. There are probably more but yeah these are the reason why Kronii is my Oshi
@ThePontiffofPonWolf
@ThePontiffofPonWolf Жыл бұрын
Unless she is in a holosalt Collab then she owns the stream and everyone will fall to the clock Edit: results of me replying before I finished reading the comment lol
@ThePontiffofPonWolf
@ThePontiffofPonWolf Жыл бұрын
I like Kronii due to her unreal gap moe between her narcissistic character and her bottom rung self esteem reality
@shocksword6847
@shocksword6847 Жыл бұрын
Kronii is honestly such a gem. She bullies, she gets bullied, but it's also hilarious how Japanese Hololive members absolutely adore her despite her Japanese speaking skills. That's another thing too, she knows how to pronounce Japanese words as if she's an S-tier voice actress, but when it comes to actually conversing with other people, she struggles since she's not fluent. She's just perfect.
@tertmade9769
@tertmade9769 Жыл бұрын
Kronii is "mommy" just by model and voice
@squalleonkeneddyheart4191
@squalleonkeneddyheart4191 Жыл бұрын
​@@shocksword6847 yeah man Kronii is indeed special, it's always exciting to watch her streams or see Dozens of Clips made for her since majority of the time you will discover something thing new and funny and still stick to her Schtick. Was worried shitless during her Surgery since from my research she shouldn't even be talking let alone Fly to Japan to perform lol I just hope she ain't pushing herself too much.
@lastnamefirstname8655
@lastnamefirstname8655 Жыл бұрын
mommy is very well beloved and appreciated everywhere all over the world.
@RemitheDreamfox
@RemitheDreamfox Жыл бұрын
Yaaaaaaaay~ More Nousagi content! :D
@dohickey7184
@dohickey7184 Жыл бұрын
The legend has returned, welcome back king
@Draconis7200
@Draconis7200 Жыл бұрын
I really didn't expect much form this vid, but you articulated this so well, I really can't fault you on any of it. Thank you for this down to earth explanation of this trope.
@BlaZay
@BlaZay Жыл бұрын
This is super interesting. I never really tried to analyse the parallels between Vtubers and anime, and even then I usually rely on my own intuition, so having it put into words I can agree or disagree with is a great idea. Looking forward to this series!
@MildlyOCD
@MildlyOCD Жыл бұрын
I hope you get around to "the gremlin" archetype, aka "the shitposter". They're similar to the kusogaki, but they have a less smug aura to them. Mostly just angry & loud, & (usually) really wholesome.
@dragonbeander
@dragonbeander Жыл бұрын
you mean ame
@MildlyOCD
@MildlyOCD Жыл бұрын
@@dragonbeander Ame, Mumei, Kronii to some extent, Enna, most of PhaseConnect. & That's just who I know of.
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 Жыл бұрын
I would include Kobo in there as well.
@icebear4571
@icebear4571 Жыл бұрын
I'd add Ironmouse to the Gremlin list, lmao.
@pax6833
@pax6833 8 ай бұрын
Baelz
@YarugumaSou
@YarugumaSou Жыл бұрын
Who doesn't wanna hear their mommy telling boomer memes and string theories while brutally killing people in Hitman with a soothing voice huh?
@ThePontiffofPonWolf
@ThePontiffofPonWolf Жыл бұрын
I love Nina
@leonrussell9607
@leonrussell9607 Жыл бұрын
​@@ThePontiffofPonWolf me too but this post was about fauna
@chaosfire321
@chaosfire321 11 ай бұрын
Favorite Vtuber archetype fr fr. I like both the horny curvy mommys and the warm supportive mommies. Honestly, my favorite right now is an indie named Sasin who, washboard tan abs nonwithstanding, isn't really that sexual. But her being a mother and elementary school teacher in real life makes her streams feel so relaxing and inviting to be a part of. Especially when her voice is smooth as butter. You can just feel the supportiveness from Harpy Dragon Mom.
@legitrequisite
@legitrequisite Жыл бұрын
Ah yes my favorite subject
@vincenttorrijos9680
@vincenttorrijos9680 Жыл бұрын
Well, you were right, this is certainly a topic that REALLY caught me off guard
@DepressedNousagi
@DepressedNousagi Жыл бұрын
This isn't what I was referring to on stream hehe. Its way worse.
@disodosid
@disodosid Жыл бұрын
I really hope this "VTuber Tropes" becomes a series! Am subscribing on that hope!
@trstmeimadctr
@trstmeimadctr Жыл бұрын
I think Fauna coes off as a mommy because in real life she probably gives off that feeling even without the anime avatar attached, and it's hard to overwrite your base characteristics
@couturissime
@couturissime Жыл бұрын
i am SO glad someone mentioned the idea that someone who sexualizes themselves can make them lose sex appeal. ive been thinking the exact same thing for a while in designing my own character, finally someone THINKS so!!! i havent heard anyone mention anything like that u_u i thought i was just crazy or something
@BakusanDayo
@BakusanDayo Жыл бұрын
For how many clips we saw of her in this video, I was really hoping I could hear nousagi's take on the Mio-mama. Like, how other members interact with her strengthens her mommy role. A bit of a missed opportunity maybe to not go to the streamer who gets mother day donations from fans (the clip was shown!)
@MioshaEnjoyer
@MioshaEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
Fr tho, got really high hopes for that 😔
@stefanyuwono1909
@stefanyuwono1909 Жыл бұрын
Ngl, half way through, I thought nousagi was talking about mio
@omarrojo9484
@omarrojo9484 Жыл бұрын
So glad you're back, missed your content
@adamlopez2275
@adamlopez2275 Жыл бұрын
Ooh! Is this gunna be a new series? Really cool!
@ijiikieru
@ijiikieru Жыл бұрын
I see Fauna as an Onee-san that recently became a young mother.
@HanayoSora
@HanayoSora Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this
@umbraemilitos
@umbraemilitos Жыл бұрын
Ame has "cool aunt" or "responsible much older sister" qualities. Protective and Caring, but not motherly or "onee-san" tropes.
@Awootistic
@Awootistic Жыл бұрын
Man I wish my cool aunt uses gamer words.
@ThePontiffofPonWolf
@ThePontiffofPonWolf Жыл бұрын
My bet is Ame is gonna fall into the heart category which makes a lot of sense
@TheUnwisestWolf
@TheUnwisestWolf Жыл бұрын
Loving this new type of video and glad to see our favorite nousagi is back in business!
@YourTypicalMental
@YourTypicalMental Жыл бұрын
God, I love Nina Kosaka.
@YourTypicalMental
@YourTypicalMental Жыл бұрын
I love her not because she's motherly, I love her because I'd want to be fatherly. If she's your mommy, I wanna be your daddy. Please don't read this Nina!
@lucasling5260
@lucasling5260 Жыл бұрын
Historians studying this piece of history then writing in their thesis "In Image 1.1 we can see one of the many "Png-Tubers" of the 21th century , the video in question is of said "Png-tuber" disscussing of the trope known as the "mommy trope within the culture of "Vtubing"
@ArjunTheRageGuy
@ArjunTheRageGuy Жыл бұрын
21th century? Don't you mean "21st century"?
@ransan
@ransan Жыл бұрын
6:12 I knew this was coming, I was patiently waiting for it since the start of the video.
@ikari1374
@ikari1374 Жыл бұрын
Love this new format. Keep it up
@lyconxero457
@lyconxero457 Жыл бұрын
I really do think that one of the things that turns me off about a lot of Vtubers is the over-sexualization. Vshojo is by and large just the largest corpo where this can be seen among many of it's talents. I've tried to check out all of them because I love Ironmouse so much but honestly none of the others do it for me at all. Even Kson who I normally like has gone down a more sexualized path that I'm simply not interested in. I see so many independent Vtubers out there with incredibly lewd models and of course all the content you see from many of them is also lewd so even if there IS more to them that's the first impression that's put out there. For whatever reason, I just keep getting pushed back towards Hololive and their talents overall because they strike a better balance of cuteness with only a touch of the yabai. Hololive clips also almost always focus on funny situations or moments which to me is just more entertaining on the whole. Obviously, everyone has their own personal tastes and thankfully there are so many Vtubers nowadays that you're bound to find at least a few that fit what you're into.
@mrbeemstdraws286
@mrbeemstdraws286 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, theyre pretty much the equivalent of twitch thots
@GranMaj
@GranMaj Жыл бұрын
Yep, Vshoujo is basically a borderline camgirls org now besides mouse. And i like mouse in tangent because i like CDawgVA. There is no other spectrum in Vshoujo, since too much freedom is not necessarily good. With hololive there is something for everyone.
@SeaRaven227
@SeaRaven227 Жыл бұрын
@@GranMaj Yup, myself i call them Vthots. The only one i have any form of respect for is Mouse, she's been through enough to have that strong... idk "wisdom" side to her?
@victoriazero8869
@victoriazero8869 Жыл бұрын
VTubers using sex as bait an outgrown it is a tried and true formula ever since VTuber become streaming content instead of premade videos. You say not Hololive but tend to forget who is Natsuiro Matsuri and many, many of her cohorts. The problem is some VTubers actually double down and get MORE lewd. Culminating with actual AVTuber becoming a thing now.
@cuongquoc5877
@cuongquoc5877 Жыл бұрын
@@victoriazero8869 Matsuri is weird cuz she is not even trying to play or be sexual. She's just a degenerate like many of us, she's basically a degenerative fan, who is also a Vtuber. Marine is definitely trying to play into her sex obsessive character but most fans like her more as a depressive older sister auntie than a sex maniac
@jhaydee7203
@jhaydee7203 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you back DN.
@StudioNama
@StudioNama Жыл бұрын
Culture. True Culture.
@pedrofelipefreitas2666
@pedrofelipefreitas2666 Жыл бұрын
Fauna has always striked me as an older sister type, of girl-next-door, she feels too young to be mommy. The only vtubers that makes me think "mommy" are Nina from NijiEN and Mio from HoloJP. That's it, they feel mature and experienced, they also very rarely become flustered.
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 Жыл бұрын
With Nina (and kind of Mio, but I can't speak of her much because I have pretty much never watched her and 4chan hag love memes, might be pushing her more towards "mommy" in my mind) feels less like "mommy" and more like "mother" to me.
@pedrofelipefreitas2666
@pedrofelipefreitas2666 Жыл бұрын
@@gokbay3057 i believe you're right, which means there really isn't a mommy (attractive, older than 30, domineering personality) in holo or niji, get to work guys, That's a big share of the market!
@HudaefCares
@HudaefCares Жыл бұрын
​@@pedrofelipefreitas2666 You've never seen those clips of Mio being savage towards Subaru then huh xD Major Arcana #310 Big God Mion (yes that's their channel name) aka Major Arcana is a dedicated Mio clipper, he even translated Mio's yearly tarot card reading streams... Mio's tarot readings are notorious for being scarily accurate. Mio read Rushia's fortune, "think before reacting to bad stuff happening to you"... (paraphrasing) that was a month before Rushia was terminated. She also gave advice to Pekora to not ditch the "peko".
@Piprup
@Piprup Жыл бұрын
Dude... You are the only person on the entire internet that can make a vid unironicaly analysing fucking MOMMIES in the VTuber industry and I would not only watch it, not only listen to it but be invested in it. Mommies aren't my fav archetype but thanks to this, I might start to appreciate (some of) them a bit more. I missed you mate, your takes are some of the best I've seen on KZbin in a minute. Also I'd say Nina and Fauna are the absolutely best representation of this archetype, but I'd say Nina does it a little better, with her not being all coomer bait, yet all her fans and colleges keep calling her mom (If Fauna didn't do the cowkiny thing I'd say she would be the best representative of this archetype)... The fuck have I written... YOU DID THIS
@ConsNSG
@ConsNSG Жыл бұрын
Great video. For some reason though, when I think about someone hearing "the mommy market is oversaturated" out of context I can't help but laugh.
@kura100
@kura100 Жыл бұрын
Another underrated vtuber mommy I HIGHLY recommend that's not just a shallow coomer horni bait is "Rui Amagami". She's a solo japanese vtuber that can speak both English and japanese so fluently that she can switch between them really smoothly. Due to her being full blood japanese but she was born and grew up in america. Especially by far, Rui's voice is the mommiest sounding voice I've heard so far. More on the older and deeper side of voice. And she does ASMR, positive affirmations and casual chatting stream without overly trying too hard to be a mommy type of vtuber. I highly recommend her ASMR videos and script reading videos that she does. I can't recommend her enough if someone's looking for an even older and mature type of mommy vtuber. 🙏
@MookieMarkova
@MookieMarkova Жыл бұрын
This series is going to be a wild ride. Wew!
@verybadorange5710
@verybadorange5710 Жыл бұрын
Good to see u back man
@dodoberd7829
@dodoberd7829 Жыл бұрын
new background looks amazing
@Player22095
@Player22095 Жыл бұрын
Next Episode: The Yandere Trope
@The00man
@The00man Жыл бұрын
Man mommy chubbas are the best. Nina and Fauna streams are so comfy you can put them on whenever and chill
@moisesfreire6408
@moisesfreire6408 Жыл бұрын
Man I love MIL- I mean Mommy type of characters.
@RawBlue
@RawBlue Жыл бұрын
I was worried for a sec when you said it can get boring real quick with a picture of Fauna in the background. I'm glad to see you appreciate Fauna as well, I feel she's heavily underrated. Honestly coomer bait does the exact opposite for me of what it's trying to accomplish and you said that very well here. Bravo!
@zeppelins4ever
@zeppelins4ever Жыл бұрын
TBH, the more I watched of here, the less I thought of her as “mommy vtuber.” Now I just think she’s an absolute memelord and “just like me frfr.” UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU I MISS HER!!
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE Жыл бұрын
5:45 !!!!! Our Tenshi - Nene Amano !!! Cloudtomo represent
@spleenrippasgubbinz2178
@spleenrippasgubbinz2178 Жыл бұрын
Your bit about VSHOJO hits the nail right on the head for me, and applies to a decent chunk of EN vtubing as well. I already find fanservice-y character models a red flag as it screams laziness by the company/vtuber, but save for Holo EN and Rosemi from Niji EN, the EN vtubing scene seems to be dominated by genitalia screamers judging from the clips YT recs me from VSHOJO, Niji EN and others.
@XPEve
@XPEve Жыл бұрын
I hope you're going to make videos on other tropes too, it was super interesting to watch!
@ikigaiRys21
@ikigaiRys21 Жыл бұрын
"what you might not know if you don't have mother that love you" Daym! Ez Trashtalk 🤣🤣🤣 That stray bullet may have killed a lot 😂
@karoAps
@karoAps Жыл бұрын
new series? letsgoooo
@keithgoh123
@keithgoh123 Жыл бұрын
Man you're demanding too much lol That cowkini was great.
@TheRealJohnux
@TheRealJohnux Жыл бұрын
100% real Definitly not a cardboard cutout
@AceArata
@AceArata Жыл бұрын
Yooo Chad Nousagi is back! AND the vid has my oshi in it! God I love Fauna! She's like an in-between of the mommy and onee-san trope, and my honest to God opinion is that her NOT leaning towards the sexual stuff is why she's my oshi. You feel safe and calm in her streams no matter what's happening, and too often mommy-type vtubers end up breaking that safe calm vibe to get a sex joke in there somewhere which takes away from the overall experience. I lean towards Fauna being an onee-san, but i completely see why lots of saplings - and even Holomyth themselves - see her as a mommy.
@IAm-yg6ml
@IAm-yg6ml Жыл бұрын
new DN video is a massive W
@Phildewy
@Phildewy Жыл бұрын
Off topic, but the background looks clean af
@hackerex4787
@hackerex4787 Жыл бұрын
5:42 Woah man, straight for the throat on that one
@Rad_Crab
@Rad_Crab Жыл бұрын
The Return of the King
@Alexandragon1
@Alexandragon1 Жыл бұрын
Welcome back, Nousagi!
@superitgel1
@superitgel1 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video! Good job.
@DreamyAileen
@DreamyAileen Жыл бұрын
Ookami Mio walked so Ceres Fauna could run
@deadtako
@deadtako Жыл бұрын
OUR BOY IS BACK!!!
@defadera_736
@defadera_736 Жыл бұрын
i have no idea how you can say this stuff straight, i was laughing the entire way bro
@leoaltivez7161
@leoaltivez7161 Жыл бұрын
PekoMama is the best mommy vtuber
@miguelaponte8876
@miguelaponte8876 Жыл бұрын
Then there's Mio Mama.
@ThePontiffofPonWolf
@ThePontiffofPonWolf Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the seiso and comedian vids Petition to include a Chisaka Airi segment in the seiso vid
@VvodeAn
@VvodeAn Жыл бұрын
Very informative, very cool content, my good sir
@marwynmentis3419
@marwynmentis3419 Жыл бұрын
Vshojo leaned way too hard into the lewd bit. At this point they're just the e-brothel.
@Always_Gatekeep_tourists
@Always_Gatekeep_tourists Жыл бұрын
Glade your back buddy.
@LeafYin
@LeafYin Жыл бұрын
Nice video Depressed Nousagi
@rig4O4
@rig4O4 Жыл бұрын
"Monumental mammaries" LMAO
@arccanyne9097
@arccanyne9097 Жыл бұрын
So this is what you meant when you didn't want to reveal anything on stream, excellent. This is truly your official return cause, oh my god, that was amazing. One last time, welcome back bro, hope you stay for a lot more time now. Nothing describes vtubers more than tropes I think, so having a series analyze every vtuber trope would be amazing. I want one on the gf next, pls.
@electronresonator8882
@electronresonator8882 Жыл бұрын
Fauna plays her onee-san chara up till now, and sometimes she feels competitive in matter of attractiveness, where tried the mommy aura, it didn't affect that much on her fame, but then her fans like her not because of her ara ara, so my conclusion, Fauna is mature onee-san, who's is mature enough to be a young mother
@futar3326
@futar3326 Жыл бұрын
Masterpiece. The art changed.😢
@TheAAJYu
@TheAAJYu Жыл бұрын
This unironically has the potential to be an interesting series. Can’t wait for an episode centered on the “kusogaki.”
@Zoten001
@Zoten001 Жыл бұрын
Funny how this comes out after the video that was announcing the merch for the Hololive EN concert. There was a trivia question that asked which of the talents had the most motherly feel, and Fauna won by a PARSEC.
@elpatter9826
@elpatter9826 Жыл бұрын
Truly informative and useful video🧐
@peasantkyr
@peasantkyr Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t expecting to hear DN explaining the biological effects of childbirth, but here we are
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