Building a Crazy $10,000 Threadripper Workstation for Misha Charoudin

[@mgcharoudin]

Thank you so much for this! Now let's build MORE😂

[@twanheijkoop6753]

Please take Roman for a spin. Would complete the crossover.

[@dn275]

Not the crossover I was expecting!

[@thierryfaquet7405]

indeed

[@witterdanwit]

Micha and Roman 👌🏼. Maybe a lap on his channel :)?

[@der8auer-en]

Would love to do that with my GTR. At the same time I think I would shit my pants

[@MrShadow1617]

@@der8auer-enNot if you do a warming-up lap, basically getting a feel for the GT-R handling at different speeds on the track.

[@TooliusTech]

@@der8auer-en Do it bro !! No better guy to take that monster around the track :D

[@frederikschiler1394]

That would be worldclass 😜

[@MrPerril]

@@der8auer-enI would watch this! 100%

[@jeremybarber2837]

Such a clean and powerful build, love the bare aluminum.

[@YTHandlesWereAMistake]

That EVGA mini 1050Ti is so lovely. Had one like that, overclocked really well and was just a fun thing to see/have. I miss it.

[@hudsonreynolds4349]

I miss EVGA's gpus 😢

[@basshead.]

@@hudsonreynolds4349 Overhyped like Teslas

[@katzicael]

YAY Love Misha!! When are you guys going to do a Lap together?! This is the worlds crossover I wasn't expecting lol.

[@mgk878]

17:36 is the RAM intentionally running at 'stock' speed/timings or did it reset itself after the boot issues?

[@der8auer-en]

that was after re-seating the memory. I applied the EXPO profile again afterwards

[@KING_DRANZER]

@@der8auer-enShould I give Seasonic another Chance. I used to use Seasonic PSUs long time ago along with Corsair which ever would fit the budget and be available. But once a Seasonic PSU failed(which happens to all brands including Corsair) due to sudden outage and took down GPU and Motherboard with it. So when we went in to claim Seasonic only replaced the PSU but did not cover GPU nor Motherboard. And that was an expensive fail(I had to cover for it). After that I stopped using Seasonic and only use Corsair as if anything fails that is attached to it due to its failure then Corsair covers the components Fully no questions asked. Seasonic sadly doesn't. At-least they dint few years ago. Did it change or do they still not cover other components besides their PSU on failure. I don't want to risk it like that anymore for my clients. I don't run business on it but do individually. So it be hard to take that kind of hit again. Reason I be even considering Seasonic is that sometimes I find decent deals on it while Corsair be either out of stock or high on price.

[@ivovass195]

To deliver the pc is a great excuse to visit the Nürburgring track with your Nissan GTR or the Audi

[@phucnguyen0110]

Holy shit this is a crossover we did NOT see coming :O

[@camjohnson2004]

For the GPU power connector, the reason it uses a 8 pin EPS connector rather than 2x6/8 pin PCIe connectors is that the 8 pin EPS can deliver same, if not more power than 2 PCIe power connectors. Since the A series cards are designed for workstation/server environments, Servers and proper workstation PSUs (especially ones with redundant power supplies) have additional EPS power connectors to run high power GPUs. This saves on having to have multiple cables connected a GPU when you can get away with 1 cable per GPU.

[@RADukura]

The crossover I NEVER expected but this is awesome !!

[@Alex96194]

2 of my fav youtubers doing a collab is just heaven

[@sumtincrazy1]

I wish I was famous enough for you to build my PC.. That PC looks awesome. Sometimes all the RBG just does not let you really appreciate the machine itself.

[@undertoner385]

Superb video as always! Thanks for the English content :D

[@nik12937]

13:05 Oh look, the connector that would have avoided all of the issues people have experienced with 16-pin connectors. Gotta love it when companies attempt to solve a problem of their own making.

[@fleurdewin7958]

Agree. The EPS12V connector has been proven reliable over a decade. Overclocked Intel HEDT CPU from the past hits over 1kW and 2 of these EPS12V can power them without issues at all. Unlike this new 12VHPWR connector.

[@MysteriousFigure]

@@fleurdewin7958 Exactly, it was just so stupid, if we already have a connector that is very much rated for high power use, then why not just adopt that like they did here instead of some weird single mega connector mumbo jumbo?

[@MicahXXIII]

Fantastic walk-through. Beautiful rig!

[@ai.rz__]

This PC build is going to be fast at Nurburgring 😂

[@chromerims]

2:49 -- PCIe Gen4 SSDs are plenty a lot of the time. Gen 5 if "you have a special use case" and they do get too hot; agreed. Awesome PC build 👍 Entertaining and informative video. Kindest regards, friends and neighbours.

[@danmar007]

I love it. Right after doing videos about the 14900KS, you build a system with Threadripper. :-)

[@fffrrraannkk]

I love the minimalist look of that GPU.

[@doxydoxdelamanca9902]

LOL! I didn't read the entire title and thought your cat was named Misha. I asked myself why is Roman building a WS for his cat? I really like this build; no fancy hard tubin, just plain old hoses. Nice!

[@PK-lk5gs]

Nice build! Watercooling is nice, but it immediately reveals the problem of watercooled HEDT platforms -- RAM just does not receive sufficient airflow for cooling. You reach low 70s degrees with only 2 sticks close together, so for anyone out there with a more dense RAM layout (e.g. w790 sage or dual socket MBs with 6+ DIMM slots per socket) at the very least install auxilliary RAM fans with water cooling, or better yet - consider cases with blow-through air cooling that respects RAM orientation - horizontal or "landscape" RAM for front-to-back air path and vertical or "portrait" RAM for bottom-to-top air path.

[@AttilaGobor]

Very happy that EK Water Blocks products are cooling the PC of that legend! ❤

[@sk8r4lf138]

Two of my favorite channels ceossing over. 🥰👌😌

[@wewillrockyou1986]

The ZMT tubing is still such a vibe

[@puciohenzap891]

It is, so sleek and clean.

[@Skroggn]

The soft tube looks amazing.

[@JMUDoc]

"How many PCIe slots should we put on this board?" "Yes."

[@t0mn8r35]

Very nice build...glad to see that this was a no RGB build. Looks very neat and clean. I think Sheik approves.

[@Evo_Spec]

I thought I saw the name wrong when I saw Misha on your channel XD Great job.

[@eizomonitor6003]

Seasonic can put a 15-year warranty if they want too. My Seasonic PSU is 15 years old and has no problem at all. Almost running 24/7 all these years.

[@keifbry]

$10k worth of hardware trusted by der8auer to be cooled with $10 Arctic fans. Just proves how overpriced most fans really are.

[@Nobe_Oddy]

EXCELLENT WORK!!!! And it looks SOOO SLEEK!!! Just Black and Silver... NIOCE!!!! BUT... did you ever switch the RAM back to 6000??? After you had that quick issue with the RAM I noticed CPU-Z was only showing a 1:24 ratio instead of 1:30 ... I'm pretty sure you did tho... ALSO did you put the cover on the NVLink connection??? :) lol

[@kalembrobert9834]

Ive been watching misha for years and pc content so cool. let him take you for a lap one day id love to see it!

[@ahnilatedahnilated7703]

Nice work Roman!

[@FARBerserker]

@DerBauer Why does nobody ever use Crossflow Radiators with one port on each side of the Rad? They make the line runs so much easier and make for a much cleaner look as well, because the Rads do the job of tubes which reduces clutter and tube length.

[@boudewijnb]

Cross flow radiators are longer, and you need acces to both ends. For example in this build, the top radiator, for the port at the rear the fan would be in the way, and for the front radiator the port would be in the basement of the case.

[@jaykay5369]

What a mashup 😍 Love you two

[@Jimmy_Boy_Kalahati]

I've watched a million Toasty Bros builds and have never seen anything like this build. It was wild to watch!

[@ZAGAN-OZ]

Amazing build. TR is a beast.

[@nmdelrio]

I was breathless (and drooling) all the time I was watching this video.

[@vdkaa]

The button on the 90 degree adapter for the power cable is probably for the connector latch?

[@talantadimitrov1557]

satisfying build and video.

[@Rubed0_o]

Will be even crazier if you design a waterblock for the motherboard, not unlike the one on the Dominus. EVGA's SR-3 was sick, no one makes these kinds of things anymore, sadly.

[@grapsorz]

cool. i gues we will see this do some air flow simulation soon ;) his new company Vulcan will need this.

[@fi0nn]

Always keep socket protective on until the last second while installing cpu. 👍

[@SloppyMechanics]

Jay also made the note to say gen5 m2 isnt worth it in his recent, not worth it upgrades video

[@IvanMorningstar]

Expecting more Ring videos from Misha after this then. Cant wait to be there next summer .

[@DemenkovK]

Good feeling, when you subscribed on both of them!)

[@BansheeBunny]

Nice WS build. I've herd you talk about the pump-out effect using an LN2 paste on a daily driver, is that no longer a problem?

[@dallonby]

Did EXPO work with the 4 DIMMS, i've had problems applying the profile with more than a single pair.

[@ChaitanyaShukla2503]

Thats an awesome build.

[@aleksandergjengst782]

The dripper looks AMAZING 🔥🔥

[@fu1r4]

20:15 I have been forced many times to cut the plastic on the HDMI connector on the cable to get it to fit in the graphic card. I wonder why they still make graphic card to be put upside down. We don't share PCI with AGP anymore. No need for install the graphic card upside down. It is time to install them the right way.

[@AlexButler10]

What are the water fitting you used? They looks so nice compared the usual adapters and 90’s. Thanks

[@CuddelzTV]

was not expecting this at all but my oh my am I thrilled.

[@tandila777]

I would be very interested to see your PC in a video like this, even if it is already assembled. It would be very interesting for me (I think, not only me) to see your review of why you chose this or that part of the computer. I appreciate your hard work and this channel. It is always informative for me and I often take into account their opinions, good luck✌🇬🇪 🇩🇪

[@Naga2x]

Am I the only one that likes the waterfall like mode with the reservoir not filled?

[@tarfeef_4268]

That's cause you can't hear it 😂

[@noth606]

Well, it looks cool, but the sound will make you want to pee and it gets REALLY annoying after a while. I ran a rig with waterfall sort of effect once for some hours, was 10+ yrs ago, but the sound drove me nuts after not very long. It's a faint sound but it messes with you even if you play music over it. Just try it yourself, just the sound, you'll go bananas too.

[@Games_and_Tech]

In this specific use case what are the advantages of this threadriper vs a 7950x... does just 8 more cores make a huge difference considering the cost?

[@Wasmachineman]

TR also has a fuckton more PCIe lanes and memory channels. If you're memory bound TR is faster.

[@Collin_J]

Their specific CAD apps may be validated around TR?

[@tessierrr]

60c, 300w, 51k points, amd is just on another level right now 💪

[@larsjrgensen5975]

That 300Watt usage is funny compared to a 14900ks

[@EasyMoney322]

48T at Lower frequency vs 32T. Also 7960X's default TDP is 350W according to AMD's documents. Not sure why it doesn't use all its power, as all PPT, TDC and EDC are well below it's limits. Wouldn't be surprised if almost every OC option was disabled in UEFI by default due to the HEDT platform.

[@WereCatStudio]

@@EasyMoney322 TDP is just a number. It has nothing to do with the power usage. Just look at how AMD calculates the TDP.

[@potatorigs2155]

Tdp is not just a number it's a formula but intel and amd doesn't use the same still Amd i way mon efficient and what you see in hardware info is the real power draw @@WereCatStudio

[@seeibe]

​@EasyMoney322 Threads don't really matter so much as performance.. the 32 threads of the threadripper have 30% more performance in total than the 48 threads of the 14900ks. And this is the lower end threadripper that you'd pretty much only get for the feature set, not for the performance. Intel just can't compete with AMD on efficiency, it's the same in server CPUs.

[@zombie-mechanic]

No need more higher clockspeed with more core u have + at least workstation will run at quad channels, but also octa channels ram. Once again this thing is decided to do not overclocking yet on this build, but still enough for the owner, even if this will overclocking average 24 cores will 350W cuz Amd is Amd (the most efficient) "low clock low power" people often choose this 24 cores

[@ВікторКорнеплід-ф1р]

Great build !

[@mrhassell]

What a ripper! 10k though, man you are a tripper who obviously has some very generous tippers.

[@noth606]

Sweet build, almost makes me want to build something with water cooling again, but the weight of it is too much for me. I'm building a rig right now, also a workstation, but it's aimed at being small and reasonably light, and to not look 'interesting'. Dell T5810 case, looks like any office PC, but 14core xeon, 256Gb quadchannel ECC RAM, 8Gb Quadro, and 5xM.2 SSD's on 2 pcie slot carrier boards. For a reasonably cheap and small PC tower it'll be able to run quite a few VM's at fairly good performance. I think, it's not complete enough to boot yet, heh.

[@sandzhs]

Awesome crossover!

[@SlickPlayss]

you really have one of the best jobs in the world!

[@Evilsizer82]

i have never used amd cpu/boards but seeing the AMI screen is a throw back to the 386/486/pentuim days for me

[@andrzejpatek4557]

Did you consider putting kryosheet instead of cryonaut? I guess it would be more easily maintainable over long time period.

[@francisgoodfield6266]

Very nice I am interested in the kapton tap seam to be few different ones is that the 1mil thick for like pcb masking

[@EinSwitzer]

Resize bar and smart access memory is the cpu using the memory on the graphics card but the pcb becomes the motherboard for the ram and gpu to cpu

[@CarputingYT]

this guy has the best voice

[@itsdeonlol]

W Collab!

[@OPTERON_PRIME]

Very cool thanks

[@vfr492]

Wow, the two names I would never expect in the same video

[@kevinerbs2778]

The workstation cards have better blower coolers than all the gaming cards, that aluminum shell & metal backplate shows you that a blower isn't that bad when properly designed. By the way can you weight that against a RTX 2080 ti blower typer cooler, I'm pretty sure that cooler with its included shell is heavier than those on the RTX 2080 ti blowers.

[@mikejmcfarlane]

On the display port connector being a bit higher and not fitting in slot 1. Had the same thing with a dual A6000 build in a Lian Li case. Had to file the case to get the connector properly inserted :-/

[@hbjigcc]

7:03 Cpu-z isn't reporting the memory correctly. 4x32bit is dual channel.

[@Bluelagoonstudios]

The Pure Base series, are too small for use as a game system, from BeQuiet, I hope the Dark base has more place. It's strange, because the Pure Base FX is purely ARGB. So I ordered a Lian Li 011 Dynamic EVO XL. So I built another older system in the pure base.

[@iamnotyourmate]

Thats crazy you are building for him

[@pankothompson5903]

I wonder if VRM would run colder if you removed the top plates that make it look like the fins are going vertical

[@wyattarich]

I hope you updated the firmware on those 990s!!

[@floatingsystems2929]

EPS is superior to 12vHP in every possible way. It required unbelievable incompetence for it not to become the standard. Thank you for bringing more attention to it.

[@tessierrr]

When 2 great people collab, i like 😁

[@Chris-ji8jw]

Nice, you built this machine wisely. I. An tell, that you did the best, possible, while not wasting funds. You built it with the most bang for the buck or euro.

[@chengcao418]

The ada generation RTX 6000 is using a 12VHPWR (or 2x6, not sure)

[@neothermic1]

Is there a full parts list? Interested in the block, but can't find it on EK's site? (or I'm being very blind!)

[@FlanK3rCZ]

Awesome 👍! Do you know Gercollector? Maybe he need also PC upgrade 😂. I watching Misha also.

[@PotatoVariety]

I understand perfectly how you feel... I recently built a R$6000 PC for my friend and I was freaking out inside when his RGBs weren't working (it was a cable I forgot to connect)

[@skyhawk21]

I think your ram and boot issue was from water block tightness on cpu when installed in case…. Maybe it’s like Intel pressure sensitive for ram speeds

[@FreakyAngelus]

Roman, it's not a AMD/Threadripper issue.. it's an ASUS issue... Asus doesn't have their BIOS properly setup. For my company I've run a 3990x till the Asus mobo blew it up... now it runs a 3970x as a replacement... and that survived for 2 years now as the BIOS was updated several times. It's still unstable on the memory, especially if you add 8 dimms. The Asus BIOS somehow struggles with 8 dimms, a threadripper and then keeping stable voltages. Best advise for stability is to mildly OC the dimms on voltage, do not use XMP/presets and don't OC the CPU unless you're actively using it OR... you restart daily. It glitches on average after 5-7 weeks, which is only a problem when using all cores for computational fluid dynamics. Just FYI, with the poor ASUS support... it will never enter my business again. I have almost the same build LTT did back then, but I did build it ironically 1 month earlier... if I had seen the comment about mem issues, it never been done with ASUS. They also fixed it with BIOS updates, but released their vid after the first update... for me the 2nd still killed the cpu (or it was already too damaged). Sadly the warranty was there, but AMD had no replacement 3990x... hence the 3970x... I use the spare 3960x in my desktop.. just in case :D

[@yakacm]

I always wonder why cinebench doesn't give you the time it takes to finish 1 test as well as a score, it would be more meaningful, it especially help in comparing different versions of cinebech.

[@81bestof]

Great work as always Der8auer :D Could you make a video for how to make a good fancurve for AIO? Just bought the Arctic Liquid freezer 3 420, and i have not found a good fancurve for noise vs performance.

[@EinSwitzer]

Getting the server software to trick it self then you close the games but one and the cpu gpu ram still have expanded use tables and parts ready for use

[@The_Noticer.]

As someone that uses CAD on a daily basis (Siemens NX), these programms actually scale pretty poorly with cores. They scale only marginally with clockspeed, but scale pretty good with memory timings and Cache. Basically anything that speeds up retrieving intermediate results/latency to data because of the sequential nature of the calculations. 7960X wouldn't have been my choice, but I guess he doesn't run JUST CAD software I suppose. But if I was making a CAD machine, i'd have thrown in a 7800X3D with some fast dimms and an AMD GPU because they have much lower driver overhead. And Yes, VRAM is also very important.

[@vita-girl4345]

I’d really like to see a dual gpu and dual psu threadripper system build!

[@giftig694]

Beautiful motherboard.

[@tim1823]

The main question has not been answered. Will this assembly pull off toys such as Kaa Cyberpunk and Pubg????

[@psychosis7325]

Misha is the GOAT ❤ Don't think about it Mate, ask him, then load up that GTR and go 👍

[@MrArrakis9]

Waiting to see that lap vid on Misha's channel. :)

[@TheLordinio]

cfd build? would most likely be memory bandwidth limited. ime you don't really gain anything above 4 cores per memory channel. a dual socket older gen epyc is absurd value for that. you can get 16 memory channels for $2k on zen 2

[@mbraun777]

So was it the GPU water block or the case that caused the display cable plug interference?

[@Atlan_tis]

I hope he will have a mirror copy of his main NVMe 990 Pro, because mine went out not long ego, I lost my windows and all files, yes it got covered by Samsung and I got a replacement, but you don’t have warranty on your files