Derivative of Exponential Function (e^x) From First Principles

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Prime Newtons

Prime Newtons

Күн бұрын

In this video I showed that d/dx (e^x) = e^x using the definition of the derivative.

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@AlongCameAirxD
@AlongCameAirxD 2 жыл бұрын
This is the only video I found that solved this problem and that limit without using the circular logic of L'Hopital's rule. You are the only one that showed that limit to truly be 1. Earned a like from me.
@lukewarm7465
@lukewarm7465 2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@agytjax
@agytjax Жыл бұрын
@@lukewarm7465 He could have avoided the complicated route of proving using natural log (ln). Here is the proof : We have e^x.Lim(h->0){(e^h - 1)/h} --- (1) We know that e=Lim(h->0){(1+h)^(1/h)} Substituting the value of 'e' in (1) above, we get : => e^x.Lim(h->0){([1+h]^(h*1/h) - 1)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){([1+h]^(1) - 1)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){(1+h-1)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){(h)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){1} => e^x
@sphakamisozondi
@sphakamisozondi 4 ай бұрын
Sane here. This is a satisfying explaination to this problem
@boguslawszostak1784
@boguslawszostak1784 2 ай бұрын
You don't have this problem if you DEFINE ln(x) as the integral from 1 to x of 1/u du, and the function e^x as its inverse function.
@spudhead169
@spudhead169 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately it's still kind of circular. d/dx e^x = e^x is itself a definition of e, in that e is the only value of n that satisfies d/dx n^x = n^x . You cannot prove a definition, if you could you wouldn't need it to be a definition. Trying to prove it will always result in a circular argument with a derivative because such a proof requires the use of the definition of e in some form, and since all definitions are equivalent, using the definition of e is equivalent to using the derivative definition and thus circular.
@emmanuelmasemola1014
@emmanuelmasemola1014 2 жыл бұрын
Very sincere, very clear, I wish we were together during my university days, these are the kind of channels that deserve subscription, you don't need to tell us to subscribe , we have fallen inlove with your content.
@nadineabusaleh9401
@nadineabusaleh9401 4 ай бұрын
The way he looks at maths as it is magic and charm gave we a really beautiful vibes , i have never seen a teacher that is calm and has this clarity before . I hope he continues .
@AcryllixGD
@AcryllixGD Жыл бұрын
Honestly one of the best videos ive ever watched! Im an a level student in the uk learning about calculus and this video made it so clear as to why this was the case! Really good video!
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@tomatenheatderechtetomaten2379
@tomatenheatderechtetomaten2379 7 ай бұрын
man you have a beautyful handwrigting
@donald_w
@donald_w 25 күн бұрын
You are an incredible teacher! Thank you for explaining this so well and not overlooking the small details 😊
@xebby9
@xebby9 2 жыл бұрын
The BEST explanation I've watched about this derivative
@robread-jones3698
@robread-jones3698 Жыл бұрын
We all know there is something inherently beautiful in mathematics, but that explanation with its cool, calm, clear and entertaining delivery really emphasized that point. It was a joy to watch. A video has to be something particularly special to get both a like and a subscribe out of a grumpy old git like me. Job done here. I'm looking forward to watching more of your videos.
@obadamh7030
@obadamh7030 Жыл бұрын
I finally found someone to clear it up simply, I really owe you
@sphakamisozondi
@sphakamisozondi 4 ай бұрын
I have never, not even in my maths books I used at university, have someone explained why, _lim_ _h -->0_ *{exp(h) - 1}/h =1* Well done sir. Much love from South Africa
@catnip2906
@catnip2906 20 күн бұрын
Dear Sir. Thanks for the clarity. I was blind but now I see.
@kingbeauregard
@kingbeauregard Жыл бұрын
Oooh, I like your style! You're really clear, and your enthusiasm is infectious. Subscribed!
@MrWildcathendrix
@MrWildcathendrix 6 ай бұрын
I've just studied this demonstration in my Math 1 book for my first year of Computer Science Engineering university course, it's exactly the same as you write, but the way that you explain it makes math much more fun!
@mihaipuiu6231
@mihaipuiu6231 8 ай бұрын
Sir,you are a good teacher.Why? Because your writing is very nice, you work on a clean table, but very important...your proof is very clear and you explain like MICHAEL PENN. Thanks, SIR.
@debjanimukherjee502
@debjanimukherjee502 6 ай бұрын
Reminiscing my college days with you and enjoying my retired life ❤
@renesperb
@renesperb Жыл бұрын
A nice and clear presentation,and , in contrast to many other videos of this type , a good handwriting , making it easy to read.
@GicaKontraglobalismului
@GicaKontraglobalismului Жыл бұрын
Great! I have always calculated the derivative of the exponential using the derivative of its inverse, that is, of the logarithm, and always thought the direct calculation impossible. In Romanian Language "to learn" is said "a invata" which is formed of words "in" and "viata" which mean "in" and "life" ; in other words, the Romanian the word for "to learn" actually means "to be alive" which is exactly what you said in the end. Your mind already thinks Romanian! I also appreciate your style, the blackboard, the chalk, and last but not least your calligraphy!
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Wow! This is inspirational! Thank you for your comment.
@hiderr6805
@hiderr6805 Жыл бұрын
You may want to substitute (e^h - 1) with (1/n) instead of n. This way you would get easily to the most commonly known definition of e, that is lim n->inf (1+1/n)^n instead of (1+n)^(1/n)
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I will investigate that option
@mohamedsaith4532
@mohamedsaith4532 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!!!!! How amazing explanation 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@kiturundee9077
@kiturundee9077 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video. Love the energy 😀
@invisiblelemur
@invisiblelemur 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful. Thank you for getting me as excited about this as you are!!
@ardas2640
@ardas2640 Жыл бұрын
I wanna thank not just for the great explanation but the positive energy you put in the video
@labibbidabibbadum
@labibbidabibbadum Жыл бұрын
Liked, subscribed, coming back. I’m helping my teenage son who is just starting with calculus. This kind of clarity in teaching is wonderful.
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback
@iHATEbigots666
@iHATEbigots666 Жыл бұрын
Great video!! Thanks so much for explaining the full limit. I couldn't find an explanation of the last part until I found you! Instant sub :D
@randalltucker9343
@randalltucker9343 Жыл бұрын
Very nicely done, sir! Great video!
@kopisusu3781
@kopisusu3781 2 жыл бұрын
this really cleared things up for me. thankyou very much!
@averagehooligan620
@averagehooligan620 Жыл бұрын
Mindblown. Been searching for this.
@SanePerson1
@SanePerson1 8 ай бұрын
A nice side result from this extremely nice demonstration is hidden in the penultimate line. I'm so accustomed to taking the derivative of e^x, that I forget what constant I should use when taking the derivative of a^x. But the entire derivation you've given doesn't change for that case, EXCEPT that in the middle panel, one should use the base-a log instead of the natural log (ln). so you get (d/dx)a^x = [1/log(e)]a^x, where the log is the base-a log. In particular, this recovers the conversion factor for base-10 log and natural log: 1/log(e) ≈ 2.303.
@MrDipanmehta
@MrDipanmehta 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most critical video - unlike so many other dealing with this topic. However, this doesn't comes on top of youtube search try adding some keywords or description mentioning "exponential function". This is amaziing video thank you.
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion, I have made some changes.
@souverain1er
@souverain1er 6 ай бұрын
Great explanation. Love it. Never learnt this in calculus
@Rob1066-
@Rob1066- Жыл бұрын
Great pure math explanations!
@zorxey3189
@zorxey3189 Жыл бұрын
Incredibly helpful video, thanks
@theeligator8728
@theeligator8728 3 ай бұрын
thank you sooo much i love your positivity! keep going +1 follower gonna recommend to my peers.
@sakangbenjamin
@sakangbenjamin 3 ай бұрын
Always on point sir God bless for your impactation
@goldCrystalhaze
@goldCrystalhaze 9 ай бұрын
I saw an explanation of the derivative of a^x in a lecture, which I never actually understood and I was going to search for a better explanation these days. Your video came by chance and it is fantastic! Thank you so much! I have subscribed to your channel.
@No-cg9kj
@No-cg9kj 6 ай бұрын
e and ln love to sneak their way into everything lol. If you haven't got to calc 2 yet be prepared to see them a lot haha.
@Ray1tx
@Ray1tx 4 ай бұрын
Wonderful explanation!
@muwememwanza3815
@muwememwanza3815 2 жыл бұрын
Great video just learned something new
@tomvitale3555
@tomvitale3555 4 ай бұрын
We've been saved from destruction and made the world a better place to live! 😁 Excellent description!
@kemumawhitney5439
@kemumawhitney5439 Жыл бұрын
Your classes are enjoyable
@nemo5619
@nemo5619 9 ай бұрын
Fabulous video, hats off!
@agytjax
@agytjax Жыл бұрын
From 4:35 onwards, you could have avoided the complicated route of proving using natural log (ln). Here is the proof : We have e^x.Lim(h->0){(e^h - 1)/h} --- (1) We know that e=Lim(h->0){(1+h)^(1/h)} Substituting the value of 'e' in (1) above, we get : => e^x.Lim(h->0){([1+h]^(h*1/h) - 1)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){([1+h]^(1) - 1)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){(1+h-1)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){(h)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){1} => e^x Q.E.D
@clemensvorbauer1183
@clemensvorbauer1183 7 ай бұрын
no, you are not allowed to take the limit h->0 twice…
@idolgin776
@idolgin776 10 ай бұрын
It was really cool when the exponential definition of e popped out. Never seen such manipulation before!
@shcottam
@shcottam Жыл бұрын
Dude, this is pretty sick
@komalshah1535
@komalshah1535 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic sir!
@hiderr6805
@hiderr6805 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing video! Thank you so much! So cool, the only source I found using only elementary methods...
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@binhql
@binhql Жыл бұрын
Great! You've just made by day :D Appreciate it a lot.
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Happy to help
@aram5642
@aram5642 11 ай бұрын
Greatest blackboard and chalk I have seen of all math videos here. The lighting would benefit from some angle or diffusor though ;)
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. I am still trying to find the pest lighting conditions for videos. I hope the newer videos are better lit in your opinion.
@masoudhabibi700
@masoudhabibi700 Жыл бұрын
Thank for one more time.... master
@JulesMoyaert_photo
@JulesMoyaert_photo 6 ай бұрын
Nice demo!
@Bob-sq7ev
@Bob-sq7ev 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir this helped me a lot ❤❤❤
@anonymous-ui7il
@anonymous-ui7il Жыл бұрын
I am binging on your videos, it has helped me a lot with calculus.
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you find them helpful. Thanks for the feedback.
@user-cb5oh8rm2i
@user-cb5oh8rm2i 2 жыл бұрын
It is so helpful
@user-mb5nz1dt7l
@user-mb5nz1dt7l 2 ай бұрын
Bravo. Perfect.
@12388696
@12388696 Жыл бұрын
Well done
@punditgi
@punditgi Жыл бұрын
My first principle is to always watch Prime Newtons! 🥰
@tafadzwachigumbu4276
@tafadzwachigumbu4276 Жыл бұрын
This is a very good presentation. Thank you sir.
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@K-drama-LegendKing
@K-drama-LegendKing Жыл бұрын
thanks for not using circular logic this makes so much sense the video is amazing, i would love to check your other videos although i know the the derivatives but the way you explained this one im excited to see the other derivatives
@durjoysaha2896
@durjoysaha2896 Ай бұрын
That helps a lot❤
@petersamantharadisich6095
@petersamantharadisich6095 Жыл бұрын
it might be easier to simply start with that definition of e and expand in a power series e^h = lim_n (1+h+h^2/2+...+h^n/n!) then subtract 1 e^h - 1 = lim_n (h+h^2/2+...h^n/n!) then divide by h (e^h - 1)/h= lim_n (h+h^2/2+...h^n/n!)/h = lim_n (1+h+h^2/2+...h^(n-1)/n!) then take limit with respect to h (limit is 1 and doesn't depend on n), then with respect to n (still 1)
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
I agree. I wanted to stay within knowledge from precalculus and highlight that manipulation I showed.
@znhait
@znhait Жыл бұрын
This is circular reasoning. You just gave the Maclaurin series for e^x, which is obtained by finding the derivative of e^x. If someone is finding derivatives from first principle, the assumption is that no result that includes the derivative--other than the definition itself--can be used.
@petersamantharadisich6095
@petersamantharadisich6095 Жыл бұрын
@@znhait I don't think it is, as you can derive the power series by expanding the definition used in the video... e^x=lim_n(1+x/n)^n = lim_n{sum_j (x/n)^j × n!/[j!(n-j)!]} = lim_n{sum_j x^j/j! × [n/n][(n-1)/n]...[(n-j+1)/n]} = lim_n{sum_j x^j/j! × [1][1-1/n]...[1-(j-1)/n]} = lim_n {sum_j x^j/j!} × lim_n{[1][1-1/n]...[1-(j-1)/n]} = lim_n {sum_j x^j/j!} The above does not refer to derivatives of e^x, there is no need to use circular reasoning to get the result this way.
@icafe36485
@icafe36485 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Master, I enjoy your teaching method💐🌹👏
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@Rayglobster
@Rayglobster Жыл бұрын
This is perfect
@barthennin6088
@barthennin6088 Жыл бұрын
It appears to be a circular argument. ln(e^x)=x and e^ln(x)=x
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Lol. That's what a lawyer would say. In mathematics, they are called inverse functions.
@patelharsh5133
@patelharsh5133 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir
@okeuwechue9238
@okeuwechue9238 3 ай бұрын
Great explanation. Thnx. An alternative explanation would also be expressing the natural exponential function as a Taylor series expansion and then differentiating each individual term to show that the resultant expression is the same as the original series
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 3 ай бұрын
That would not be from first principle, though.
@okeuwechue9238
@okeuwechue9238 3 ай бұрын
True :-)@@PrimeNewtons
@the_n_ecromancer
@the_n_ecromancer 3 ай бұрын
"you see that? That makes life a lot easier"😂😂😂
@ThenSaidHeUntoThem
@ThenSaidHeUntoThem 2 жыл бұрын
Coool!
@Aferz
@Aferz Жыл бұрын
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@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
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@user-dp9yn7zf4l
@user-dp9yn7zf4l 6 ай бұрын
Amazing video, first time learn the derivative of e^x this well! I have a question, when we taking the reciprocal, do we need to show that the denominator is not zero (at about 7:45)?
@sergiolucas38
@sergiolucas38 Жыл бұрын
Great video, you're very didactic and your letters are quite pretty as well, thank you :)
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@atri5280
@atri5280 2 жыл бұрын
ॐनमःशिवाय 🙏
@Pauladam2216
@Pauladam2216 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@tfdtfdtfd
@tfdtfdtfd Жыл бұрын
Excellent video avoiding the unelegant definition of e as the "eh-1" limit......we should probably add a few technical details about the existence of limits when you split into products, ratios, swap order of ln and lim.....these generally hold true here due to continuity
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the extra notes. Appreciated!
@geraldomelo2751
@geraldomelo2751 6 ай бұрын
The l'hopital theorem can also be applied.
@_cran
@_cran 6 ай бұрын
I know you mostly do calc but can you make a video about fourier series/transform-inverse transform and a video about laplace transform-inverse transform? It'd be pretty educating I think since I just know the logic of it's graph I know it's formula but I don't understand how or why it works to just integrate something with e^-ikx then re-integrate it with e^ikx shapes the function in a different way
@nievalesterloydp.7399
@nievalesterloydp.7399 Жыл бұрын
Ang angas
@shivankargupta6675
@shivankargupta6675 Жыл бұрын
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@mazenzidieh
@mazenzidieh 6 ай бұрын
Thanks alot
@user-it6rm7cx6x
@user-it6rm7cx6x 2 ай бұрын
👍👍
@ukidding
@ukidding 6 ай бұрын
you have v nice writing
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot 😊
@znhait
@znhait Жыл бұрын
This is excellent work. I'm wondering if there isn't an easier way...or just a more obvious to come up with this limit. Otherwise, the definition of e could have been used a lot earlier.
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 11 ай бұрын
Great point!
@reddottgamer3047
@reddottgamer3047 Жыл бұрын
Finnally earth become a livable place.
@ThenSaidHeUntoThem
@ThenSaidHeUntoThem Жыл бұрын
You are hilarious 😂
@user-uw7oi7xi7g
@user-uw7oi7xi7g 6 ай бұрын
Culculas simplified ❤
@JessicaShaw-ym4vc
@JessicaShaw-ym4vc 5 ай бұрын
Hi! where does the definition of e in terms of n come from? thank you. your video was great :)
@dr.rahulgupta7573
@dr.rahulgupta7573 Жыл бұрын
Sir. Can we use the definition of e^h to simplify ( e^h --1)/h and then take the limit ?
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Certainly. That would be highly recommended.
@dr.rahulgupta7573
@dr.rahulgupta7573 Жыл бұрын
@@PrimeNewtons Yes Sir .
@CarolineSikamoi-rh7iv
@CarolineSikamoi-rh7iv Жыл бұрын
Encourage though small writings make them more clear atleast
@tcmxiyw
@tcmxiyw 6 ай бұрын
I think your explanations are beautiful, but when you say something like “the limit of the function is the function of the limit”, please justify it by saying “because the function is continuous”. It is interesting to note that the derivative of f(x)=e^x at any point can be found once we know f’(0).
@fardowsakhalif6669
@fardowsakhalif6669 Жыл бұрын
M.Allah
@fardowsakhalif6669
@fardowsakhalif6669 Жыл бұрын
Shugran
@kaboflotv6455
@kaboflotv6455 Жыл бұрын
What about y=sin(×+1) from first differentiation??kindly asking
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
I have to a video for sin x. Use the same idea.
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Same exact process. You'll get cos(x+1)
@yigitrefikguzelses291
@yigitrefikguzelses291 Жыл бұрын
When we are dealing with lim n->0 1/(ln(1+n)^(1/n) isn't this expression undefined because we have 1/n in the expression. I will be so happy if you can help me
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
n is not 0 yet. We are just approaching 0. So the function is not undefined and you should not plug in zero into the function because then it will be erratic. Try sketching that in desmos and see what happens as you approach zero. 😉
@yigitrefikguzelses291
@yigitrefikguzelses291 Жыл бұрын
@@PrimeNewtons yeah its say approxirametly 2.718 so it's e but aren't we getting different result while approching from negative infinity,(by the way thank you for your respond)
@anestismoutafidis4575
@anestismoutafidis4575 5 ай бұрын
It stays as it is= e^x, except for x we put numbers ( N○ - C)
@paulwood3460
@paulwood3460 Ай бұрын
Excellent proof. 👏👏👏👍👍 just one criticism..before starting the the proof of derivative e^x just state the fact that (lim n->0 (1+n)^1/n) = e Mathematics is simply wonderful.
@robertveith6383
@robertveith6383 10 күн бұрын
The exponent, 1/n, must be inside grouping symbols: (1 + n)^(1/n)
@paulwood3460
@paulwood3460 10 күн бұрын
@@robertveith6383 surely you mean (1+n)^1/n 😀
@hypothesisnyc916
@hypothesisnyc916 2 жыл бұрын
Your teaching style is great but it bugs me that you're using implication symbols as though they are equal signs. For students to know the difference between "equals" and "implies" makes a big difference in their understanding of proofs.
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. I promise to never do that again. Could you suggest a replacement for doing my transition without using the implication symbol.
@sochegeorge7962
@sochegeorge7962 9 ай бұрын
Can someone please explain the move at 9:32
@sochegeorge7962
@sochegeorge7962 9 ай бұрын
Should have added if n = 23, (1/23)*ln(24) is NOT equal to Ln(24)^(1/23)
@justinnwachukwu2054
@justinnwachukwu2054 9 ай бұрын
Write your number on the board. I appreciated your teaching style
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 9 ай бұрын
My guy, I no fit write my number for blackboard na! Wetin be dat?
@petechen794
@petechen794 6 ай бұрын
It's not difficult. You may use the definition of derivative to do it. You may also do it by using ln .
@clemensvorbauer1183
@clemensvorbauer1183 7 ай бұрын
you could have derived the rule of differentiating x^n from first principles easily, and than differentiate the definition of the exp-function, the power-series….
@Joep1209
@Joep1209 8 ай бұрын
So much work just for the answer to be e^x , lol
@desmondenyia189
@desmondenyia189 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, it's beautiful but complicated!🤦‍♂️
@HilmaKamati-ic5jc
@HilmaKamati-ic5jc Жыл бұрын
You're so perfect sir I wish you're my Lecture at university 😂😂
@danceordrink
@danceordrink Жыл бұрын
how does(1+n)^1/n=(1+1/n)^n
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
They are not equal but they have the same limit as n goes to infinity
@robertveith6383
@robertveith6383 10 күн бұрын
When you write 1/n as an exponent, you must put it inside of grouping symbols: (1 + n)^(1/n).
@jumpman8282
@jumpman8282 4 ай бұрын
4:36 Here I would rather substitute 𝑒 = lim ℎ→0 (1 + ℎ)^(1 ∕ ℎ). Because we are already taking the limit as ℎ→0, we can simply substitute 𝑒 = (1 + ℎ)^(1 ∕ ℎ). Then, all that's left to do is simplify.
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