descendants the rise of red deep dive

[@TheRealMikanTsumiki]

I legit thought it'd be like the villain kids were originally gonna be the ones to prank Bridgette, but because red and chloe went back in time and messed with things, ella ends up being the one to pull the prank on bridgette I was, genuinely surprised that didn't happen

[@mightymorphinmatt420]

thats what i thought was going to happen, I feel we might get that in the next one.

[@madeforwattpad4967]

I think it would’ve been cool if it were “villains” but not those ones, instead Cinderella’s stepsisters. It would explain part of why Bridget hates Cinderella and it’s an easier to understand why they attend the same school. They decide to mess with Bridget because she’s close with Ella and they hate her, Bridget thinks Ella played a role and that’s why she didn’t help. It also leaves Ella innocent of any real wrongdoing, while connecting everything to their ruined relationship.

[@Riverr5]

If you think of the movie as its own separate thing outside the trilogy it becomes a lot better. Still had questionable plot decisions though.

[@youmadornahhh]

Well, yeah, lol.

[@AverageGamerXD995]

But it is a part of the other movies bc at the end of the royal wedding they showed white roses with RED paint and they also showed the rabbit hole which gives us a clue of that the new movie will be about Alice in Wonderland and if you don't believe me watch it your self and you will see what I am talking about.

[@nicksims2842]

Well technically it’s not a separate thing it’s a part of the descendants franchise but it’s the start of a New trilogy

[@Dense-Comms]

@@AverageGamerXD995yeah that is the case but it has little to do with the original cast. If could still be in the same universe but still its own thing. The best example would be Despicable Me and the Minions movies. Same world but technically its own thing.

[@beatm6948]

It's just like a bad film 😭 what makes me insane is there's so many elements that are so good, and I think the cast was well chosen. However the music and plot are badly made for the most part.

[@Marsa11]

im here specifically to hear sarah rip into the movie for making Hades a literal god a student at this high school

[@turnipcrazy]

Hades got bored so he decided to go to high school. Either that or Zeus forced him to do it.

[@darkfairy9240]

@@turnipcrazy that makes since

[@Beep974]

Descendants 5 should be the son of Frollo from hunchback of of Notre dame starting a cult

[@InternetsPedestrian]

If you have ever seen Disney Twisted Wonderland, there is an event almost like that

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

Or he has a brother who runs the cult and the good brother constantly tries to ruin it from the inside out. Imagine if Quasimodo was a fun uncle to one of them and he and esmeralda teach him right from wrong which helps him unlerarn Frollo’s teachings.

[@Beep974]

@@gabrielleduplessis7388 we need a dubstep mashup remix of Hellfire ft. China Anne McClain

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

@@Beep974 do we really?

[@Beep974]

@@gabrielleduplessis7388 no I’m joking

[@Skullmask4281]

China the actor for uma actually had a close relationship with cameron so that's probably why the scene is there

[@jeshuarestituyo284]

but that’s also the thing Uma and Carlos were never friends to begin with so it’a confusing. It’ll make more sense for Jane to be the one saying it

[@mayafeyplushie2025]

It's Jasmine and Aladdin!

[@vivivalley]

c-call us…call us…no…i shan’t say it…

[@gloomiiii]

call us gelatin!

[@ussinussinongawd516]

Ho its jaladdin😊

[@Han_6459]

*insert Lego spin*

[@MadamMelonMeow]

One thing that’s been going around and around my head since I watched this movie, is how Red is now fundamentally a stranger in her own life. Having such a different mom means that Wonderland was not in a dictatorship, and the new timeline, Ried would’ve grown up with friends and hobbies and love and a good relationship with her mom. She wouldn’t have a lifetime of training on how to be a cruel ruler bouncing around in her head. There wouldnt be anything to rebel against. She might not be close confidants with Maddox. This leaves me to believe that there must be some sort of insane adjustment period as Red slowly realizes that none of her memories are true anymore. To her mom, it might seem like Red was possessed by a surly bitter neglected stranger who flinches away from her for no reason and assumes the worst when talking to her. There’s even a risk that the “new Red” is still running around there somewhere. I think it would be incredibly lonely, even if all the changes are for the better, to find out that the world you came from no longer exists.

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

@@MadamMelonMeow This is such a great analysis of the consequences that could occur in the second movie!

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

55:35: Why would Chloe be surprised her mother wasn't born into royalty? Isn't the the whole point of a Cinderella story???? Do people not remember that she obviously wasn't born a Princess???? Like she did marry the Prince obviously so wouldn't that be obvious??? I guess it's a shock because Cinderella is such a benevolent, and gracious ruler and probably becomes that way over time. I think Cinderella in this universe becomes kind and benevolent because she remembers how Bridgit used to be, and she respected how her kindness made her stronger? Which is why Cinderella decided to become kind and welcoming in the future, I guess she was probably inspired by Bridgit?

[@TangentialTif]

As a mom who just bought her kids Descendants: Rise of Red Halloween costumes AND WIGS, my conspiracy theory is that everyone had shitty Party City wigs so they can squeeze another $20 each out of parents. Also, for the love of god, get a drag queen as the wig woman on this movie. They don’t even need a big budget, the girls are used to doing more with less, and every wig won’t look like they just whipped it out for he bag and threw it on.

[@fibromiteready2fight809]

A drag queen or a Black wig influencer for some realistic curls without all that lace showing! Or both!

[@InternetsPedestrian]

I dont like that Chloe said "it should be more peaceful now that there arent villain kids" like it just sounds mean to say about kids imprisoned on an island for their parents mistakes.

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

True, I'm also surprised the core 4 let that slide? Like, Mal wasn't annoyed she said that?

[@ax.olotls]

I don't have a solution for how they could've done the tribute better, I think what you said could've made it a little better, but it always felt a little corporate to me. To me, it felt like Disney didn't want to address it maybe bc they felt like they already had in the royal wedding short, but they knew people would be upset if they didn't. So they just slapped an old picture up and called it a day. And I know China and Cameron were good friends for a long time so I understand her being the one to do it, but Carlos and Uma weren't really friends, so that also took me out of it a bit

[@haleyrose9751]

THANK YOU! I agree 100% with everything you said. I know it came from the right place but I also knew it felt forced because there was never any real close on screen connection to the Uma/Carlos characters in these movies before at all. Like from what I recall they never had an interaction or one on one scene before, so such a strong emotional reaction makes sense for China obviously as a human who knew Cameron... but not for Uma as a character in continuity who knew Carlos to be acting that way imo. She would be sad sure but I don't think this sad. Part of me wishes instead they had Jane there somehow as well to incorporate in this scene and back Uma up here, but perhaps her actress wasn't interested either. I think especially having Fairy Godmother but leaving out her daughter Jane of all people, when she was the character LITERALLY dating Carlos in these movies and had the closest in movie tie with him, it would make more sense to have Jane relay the "what Carlos would've wanted line" to persuade Fairy Godmother while looking at the photo whole also having Uma there on screen as support showing her respect and gratitude.

[@gloomiiii]

Me and my sister tried watching the movie the other day, everything was so confusing to the point we couldn’t finish it. Thanks for this video so me and my sister could understand the movie without dying laughing at the wigs.

[@carolkoski4875]

"if you were 9 when the first movie came out, you are now 18" was the sentence that absolutely shattered me. Wtf you mean there's people who grew up with descendants that are now legal adults

[@fibromiteready2fight809]

Yup, 👋🏾. Turn 19 in 3 months 😊

[@DSIrocker]

I think the memories of Merlin Academy in the bonus chapter are somewhat a hint to what’s to come and/or reference to a potential time paradox only he can recall of what will happen w Red and Chloe

[@alishanightshade3270]

They should have use Madam Mim than Morganna. It’s weird for them to choose a random character than the one actually in sword in the stone. I was so worried when I checked the timeline there’s only 30 minutes left but the plot still building up. The ending feels empty. I would like to see Red disappearing because Bridget is no longer evil. In present day, Chloe met the new Red which has an upgraded outfit

[@LazyLoungingHippo]

Even with all the copyright issues you were given, I'm glad you got that "ehw" face in from Red

[@DayvonR64]

I really felt like this movie had an interesting premise they just weren't able to fulfill. Time travel movies can be hit or miss, but when it comes to a franchise that already has 3 movies it could have worked. However, I didn't like that it didn't feel like they went back in time. Using ship names and using words like "vibe" feel way too modern and unrealistic. It doesn't *need* to be old timey, but it would have been the perfect time to try and replicate how older disney princess movies were in terms of dialect or style. Also, I feel like they didn't utilize the characters as best as they could have. I would have love seeing them subtly fixing what happened by Bridget gaining more friends throughout the movie who ended up stopping the prank. We already had a lot of characters brought up in "Life Is Sweeter" who we could have gotten closer to as the movie progressed and would have been a foil to Ulianna's crew.

[@deni_denz]

I got an ad for rise of red while watching this 😭😭

[@jacobpereda214]

I hate to admit it but they kinda copied ever after high by having their parents go to high school all together when they were young like it kinda breaks the continuity of the three movies before it they really should have workshop the story more also please do a analysis of ever after high or at least just the dolls since they based it off of the Grimm fairy tales so they had free control to do whatever they wanted I know you would describe all the details so well I know everybody always pin this two franchises together but I think you would have fun with it maybe do a side by side of the children together I haven’t seen anyone really do that seriously great video as always

[@carolkoski4875]

i mean the whole franchise is a shameless EAH rip-off from the get go, so...

[@starknight1244]

It suppose to be but they know we be out with fork if they dare to copy plot everafter high, so the destiny plot is out if picture

[@darththespian4856]

OK here’s what I would’ve done with the Carlos photo thing, right? We are in fairy godmother‘s office Carlos was dating Jane, godmother‘s daughter couldn’t they have just had like a candid photo of Jane and Carlos like on her desk or something? Then it feels intentional verses the good old lifetouch portrait that is only there for the tribute.

[@jessk1683]

I'm actually glad someone else isn't a massive fan of the tribute because if you're a heartless shrew, so am I. It felt like a ploy for sympathy ratings imo, like I don't mind that they continued the series but I think they needed to either find a better way to offer tribute, or not kill off the character - why couldn't he be off with the others? What happened to Cam was a tragedy and he deserves to be remembered but I don't know, I feel it would've been better to have his memory live on in his character.

[@empressofcreativity]

I honestly agree

[@beatm6948]

It also feels extra odd since the the main four....don't appear anyways? Also as a children's medium, it feels odd. It's very sad and tragic, but I don't think it was necessary for the target audience of the film.

[@InternetsPedestrian]

All i could think about with Chester and Ace were the Twisted Wonderland designs of the chesire cat and ace trappola. I think you might find it interesting since you like Descendants so much and I really enjoy the character designs.

[@waysome_]

Yes omg I was thinking the same thing like bruhhh everything descendants does wrong TWST does right it’s so peak

[@unicorn3824]

Twisted Wonderland mention!! Also, I couldn’t help but find that Red, Chester, and Ace are very similar to Riddle, Trey, and Chenya. Red and Riddle are both children of unreasonably strict mothers, both mothers even have rules against sweets. Chester and Chenya are both based on the Cheshire Cat, and Trey is said to be twisted from one of the card soldiers, something Ace is turned into.

[@KarissaTaylor-bk8lo]

My theory is that after the dance party it's reveled that since Ella was grounded she never got with prince charming and slowly Chloe starts disappearing and red has to go back and save her. It probably won't be the case cause at the end of rise of red chole and Ella hug, but it would've been cool

[@wolfwatch9731]

it was already a joke about 1997 cinderella that a black woman and a white man somehow had a filipino son, and now with chad being established as brandy cinderella and paolo charming’s son with (to my knowledge) no implication that he’s adopted that joke can be passed down to a younger audience. edit: while i also would have loved canon disney lesbians, if zellie is meant to be rapunzel herself and not rapunzel’s daughter (which is unclear i know but her being in the past implies the former) i can see that potential plotline feeling. weird. and also bound to end without them permanently getting together because zellie is from the past, which chloe has to leave. unless chloe’s hypothetical plotline ended with her deciding to abandon the present and live in the past, and at the end of the series we meet an adult chloe in the present.

[@amandalynn4979]

Yeah, but then that causes a time conundrum in itself. When Chloe is eventually born, there will be 2 Chloes in that timeline.

[@aryelynet228]

I have too many thoughts on this film so I'm very glad this video exists, you just *get* Descendants like very few other KZbinrs do (also I love the Attractionistas Maddie doll in the background)

[@rodrigocorrea7857]

Thought I was the only one who felt that way abt the Carlos scene😭

[@dayvidd]

I get the sensitivity regarding Cameron, but descendants is obviously a concept that was created with spin-offs in mind

[@KyleRDent]

You absolutely should watch the Brandy version of Cinderella. It's basically a pantomime with a decent budget.

[@Deadspooky-Gore]

Honestly, even if it wasn't your fault, kneeling in front of your ex best friend who was humiliated and revived severe trauma seems like the least you can do to try and make them feel better. Seems like she just wants a sense of control after it was lost to her. Not that what she's doing is okay, but with how "nice" Cinderella is supposed to be she is very cold to her ex best friend who again went through something very traumatic. Also uliana, soften your pride, that incident was YOUR fault. She warned you not to eat the feathers.

[@flannelsarah4992]

this was super fun!!! what i wouldn't give for canon descendants lesbians...

[@leaczinkota1979]

I ship Chloe and Red

[@empressvipress9417]

Mysterious disappearance could be about Red and Chloe showing up and the disappearing never to be seen again

[@notyzzif]

i will swear up and down that Morgie is the one who did the prank. he’s the son of a very VERY powerful sorceress i couldn’t imagine it being that difficult for him to unenchant the book in order to do it, he also has a bunch of reasons to be the one to do it the main one being that he wants to be liked and respected by Uliana, it literally says it in the descendants: the world of auradon: royals and villains (though not sure how valid that one is) however you could argue that he’d get frozen too if he opened the book but 1, like i’ve said he’s the son of Morgana so if he couldn’t unenchant the book i’m sure Morgana could and then 2, maybe he’s just not down right evil like the other VKs and is only evil because he’s yk…he’s the son of a villain so he’s a villain by association and again with the whole wanting to be liked by Uliana but honestly that sounds more like a fanfiction than anything lol. it just seems like such a random exclusion to make him seem so important (he has more lines than Hades and Maleficent, and perhaps even screen time to boot) there’s so much set up to make him the big bad at the end of this entire rabbit hole that it feels as if they’re saving him for the second movie or something….

[@shirareinhold7578]

I think what annoyed me the most is that they don’t use the lore that already existed from the books and ‘wicked world’ and inventing new characters instead of using already established characters, like Genie Gothel, Anthony Tremaine, Harriet Hook, Goston the first and the second Or CJ Hook, Freddy Facilier, Ali daughter of Alice in wonderland, or Ruby daughter of Rapunzel! So many characters you can explore instead of inventing new characters!!!

[@trishad3192]

one theory i had about the movie and why the queen of hearts turned good in the end, is because the cupcake prank didnt happen not for the prank and humiliation but because is the cupcake that turned bridget into the queen of hearts, the book saids the cupcake turns someone into a monster doesnt mention if the monster is physical or mentaly, some of the villains are monsters but their not mounstreous apparecen wise, so what i think happen is that ella and bridget go to castle comming togheter ella leaves bridget to dance with charming, uliana gives bridget the cupcake, bridget eats it and that makes her into the dictator we see in the movie, feeling abandon by ella and really anger for her suppose friends turning agaisnt her (not really) is what makes her bitter too, the book never specifies if the effects of the cupcake are permanent

[@darklavender564]

I love your dolls in the background!! Nice to see the collection change every video

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

6:22: 😂😂😂 It literally makes Auradon look like conquerers!!!!

[@SomeonesGOFFIKUNCLE]

9:39 I said this SO MANY TIMES when the 2nd movie came out! Uma wanted everyone off that island FIRST then Evie saw Dizzy and then she wanted to get more kids like her off the island and at the end of the 2nd movie, she's advertised as the one who wanted all the kids off the island but then in the 3rd movie Evie says to Mal in one line "Mal, no one wanted those kids off that isle more than you!". EVIE WHAT? Mal literally didn't care and Carlos didn't even acknowledge the other kids on the isle at first either. I remember being so frustrated when I heard her say that back in 2019.

[@MariU9]

My sister pointed that out. It was so annoying. I at least appreciated them giving Uma the line "my plan" when the barrier finally came down, because yeah, it was!

[@thepotterheadanddisneyheadguy]

they made a short tribute of caneron boyce because he's part of disney channel and one of his legacy is disney descendants. china portraying uma is one of cameron's bestfrends in real life because they worked together on disney channel!

[@oop0174]

Morgi is the son of Morgana from the Disney movie Sword In The Stone, why do people keep forgetting that that movie exists!?!?! 😩😭

[@sarah_serif]

Madam mim is in sword in the stone not morgana

[@rosies69]

​@@sarah_serifwell its not morgana the octopus

[@Aquamarine-u6n]

Have you ever seen sword in the stone

[@murphhhhhhh]

Morgana is the antagonist from The Sorcerer's Stone!

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

19:48: It’s cool, but this does not match. I believe the gospel scene would be better if it was the card guards singing instead of random people! It would mesh better and look less out of place if it was the Queens guards, seeing as the guards show up anyway during the coup. Also does anyone feel like the coup was too early??? Like it should have been later in the movie, and that Chloe and Red would/should/could have more time to play off each other as characters?

[@sppoonlord897]

screamed out loud when u posted. LETS GO HOUR LONG SARAH VIDEOOOO

[@Butter_Scott]

18:23 I'm not sure if you've ever seen Avatar: The last airbender but you sounded so much like Azula here 20:08 "Because she doesn't wanna be an evil queen" THE EAH AND DESCENDANTS PARALLELS CONTINUE!

[@mer_acle8101]

I'm so sad about D4 cos I was willing to accept all the retcons and just have a good time, and I was, but then it didn't have a proper ending (and no, no potential sequel can fix that issue) Castlecoming was an absolute MUST, there's no discussion it had to happen even if D4 is just the first act of the new trilogy. D1 had the Coronation, D2 Cottilion and D3 resolved the whole Isle of the Lost, all of these were finished movies on their own, you cannot explain away that D4 is missing its climax by saying 'but Uma said it wasn't the end' That's literally in every one of the other movies, D1 and D2 set up their sequels too and still had their climax play out properly without letting most of their main cast fall of the edge of the planet Anyways i have so many thoughts of my own I'll watch the video now lol, edits may be added

[@joline3925]

Yeah lol I also thought it sounded stupid every time Red complains about her mom and it's just like "oh she doesn't listen to me" when the mom in question is doing murder and trying to force her to do the same. But I also think that, considering the target audience, it is likely that kids watching this would immediately grasp the concept of Bridget being a magical dictator as a wider fantasy/disney movie metaphor for her being a controlling and abusive mother. Like yes it makes no sense and real dictatorships exist in real life but the movie focuses on parent-child relationships because that's what will reach the children watching, much like how the first movie had part of its central conflict revolve around parent-child relationships with the VK's and how their parents' reputations and expectations affected their chances at a normal life, rather than really going into the actual murders and atrocities the parents committed and taught their children to repeat

[@tobiasmohr3991]

Zelli is low key tge best designed character in the movie ... like a lot of the others kinda look like off brand descendants characters (like they put less effort into their costumes), but Zelli looks as good as the costumes in the og 3 films.

[@laureninunderland]

“It’s better to be feared than loved” literally a line from Helena Bonham Carter’s red queen 💀

[@bogusbinkle]

No I completely agree with your take on the Carlos tribute. I felt like such a dick for not liking how it was done. It felt forced, awkward, and made no sense for their characters. I watched the movie with my friend the day at came out and she liked how it was done and everyone else seemed to love the tribute, so I just thought I was the only one who was disappointed. I don't have a problem with them having one or with Uma being the one to make it, but why did she say that's what he would've wanted??? When did he specifically express that? He never had a strong stance on the issue due to only the girls being plot relevant. I feel like Uma could've named something after him on school grounds, especially cause she wasn't shown the be close with him in the movies. Or maybe when she was introducing herself as the new principal she could've unveiled a statue of him. Just spitballing, but I feel like it would've made a lot more sense than the awkward scene they went with.

[@jizuyaa]

i was waiting for this video from you I CHEERED!!!!!!

[@globblin1734]

Woke up to this in my sub box and it made my morning❤

[@brendantaylor4797]

I’ve never clicked on a video faster than

[@belenbarria568]

I don't understand the addition of Morgana's son; if you wanted another male villain, why not Jafar or Gaston, or Dr Facilier even?? It's kinda weird to see Maleficent, Hades, Hook AND Ursula's sister, and then jus...Morgana's son, because yes

[@fixyrheart]

hi i just wanted to point out that the "war of the roses" in the rise of red is possibly a reference to the civil wars in england in the mid to late 15th century between the houses york and lancaster, which most of shakeapeare's histories (richard ii, the henries, richard iii) are based off/take place during :-)

[@PersephoneQuill]

@ 4:20....girl the way i sighed in relief when I saw this comment...it took me so long to edit clips just for it to be blocked 6 separate times world wide trying to upload, it started to feel personal 😭 im weirdly glad it wasn't just me but RIP our time and energy (i ended up reversing the clips and shortening them) also also so glad to finally watch this video! I have been saving this (while trying to upload lol) bc ur og descendents video inspired me to make my own when rise of red came out!!! so...YAY!!! 💖

[@act.of.whimsy]

I love your videos so much 😭🥰😊 The way you talk about these movies is exactly how I love to analyze and think about Disney movies!!

[@delaneydoessinging]

I love your videos please dont die

[@GabiDAmico]

I've never seen a descendants movie, and yet, I've watched all your videos about them

[@treyhunt1050]

This analysis is so good lmao she’s informed and funny

[@mwa5351]

YAYYYY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO POST AAAAUUUHHH ily

[@pancake_127]

I actually did enjoy watching the movie (I tried to not pick apart the plotholes and continuity errors bc it would just make me hate it). I think the characters were nice and it was cute. But yeah they could’ve done so much more TT I really like your alternative endings tho and I wish they would’ve done something similar. Also, since you know so much about Descendants I suggest looking into Ever After High. It follows the Grimm versions of fairytales and is more mystical. The rules of the world are much clearer than Descendants and I think the plots of all the specials are really good. However, the parents of the characters aren’t always super clear and doesn’t really make sense, as well as how some of the animal fairy tale characters have human kids…

[@carolkoski4875]

in EAH is canon (or at least heavily implied) that all the animals have human forms they shapeshift into. I also think EAH makes space for confusing lore by having the world be so innately magical, these stories magically repeat themselves generation after generation and where the school is located feels like a pocket dimension of sorts, that fairytale characters are able to access while studying or after reaching their fairytales' endings. I think of it as something similar to Dimension 20's Neverafter in the matter of worldbuilding.

[@LivHamar]

Your rewrites had me talking about this series with a friend who hadnt really watched it and when i explained maleficent and hades’ bitter divorce(?) i pointed out how pain and panic werent characters and then made the joke they should’ve been, should’ve been just puppets when not shapeshifted and also. I think it’d be funny if maleficent got them in the split and they ended up taking care of Mal

[@Marsa11]

if those two went back in time and then the present was altered because of it, would that not mean all the adults would remember meeting them back then?

[@javkalrabbit]

Oh my God I've been waiting for this video

[@byulharangforlife]

omg i love ur vids im excited

[@dishwasherpossum229]

Im so invested. I can’t wait to binge this video tomorrow ahhhh, thank you!!

[@squishy_boi]

underrated video! this is so good

[@Deadspooky-Gore]

Yay you aren't a terf, a new person I can subscribe to! 😊❤ Im surprised they didn't just replace the actor for Mel and keep the original plot that made more sense. They replace actors all the time who cares if they do it again. Dove doesn't want to do it, let someone else.

[@Spookybookie1]

And when the world needed her most, she returned !!

[@maddymad4989]

Am I the only one who really wanted Red and Chloe to get together/kiss? (I just really hope that’s where the plot goes)

[@hannahdurrant1337]

SAMEE they had like a lot of tension that I genuinely thought they would kiss

[@Alyssa7513]

Was waiting for your video since the movie came out haha ! Thx again for this in-depth analysis

[@thegodofimagination]

I honestly think makes all sense in the world for The Queen Of Hearts to not want to join Auradon as well look what happened to Queen Grimhilde (The Evil Queen) and presumably The Horned King and King Magnifico all dump into the open air prison and disinherited of there respective kingdom like why would the Queen Of Hearts want that

[@carolkoski4875]

which does make you think - if those villains were still in power when they got thrown into the isle, then Auradon had to invade their kingdoms and do a coup to annex the lands into auradon. If not, in the case that they were dead (ie the evil queen), they literally brought back people from the dead just to torture them (and apparently also everyone who ever once even worked for them for the sheer amount of people there were at the isle?)

[@thegodofimagination]

@carolkoski4875 exactly honestly it why I call Isle The Beast Open Air Prison because the whole thing is shady as hell

[@MariU9]

There weren't a lot of choices made by this film that I liked, but I lowkey loved how Hades and Maleficent were high school sweethearts in this.

[@tkarz704]

great video. i love the way you talk about descendants

[@leaczinkota1979]

Jeez you're right about Chloe being peer pressured. It hit me hard.

[@blackquills27]

this is going to hit my friends and i’s descendants-specific groupchat like a vision from the heavens

[@Kiwi_fr0g]

When I first watched this movie I genuinely thought Ella was the one who pranked Bridgette and that’s why she says “I saw through her, everyone here is two faced and too fake” in love an’t it.

[@Kiwi_fr0g]

And I felt like everything in the movie just kept leading towards that. Like Ella didn’t want to go to the dance but suddenly she wants to go with Bridgette. And she seems so upset when Ella says it was a stupid prank, she seems angry in a way that made me think that she was upset because Ella was like underplaying something that she did to Bridget. And the villain kids seem like a red herring especially when red and Chloe say “well now we know who did the prank”. Ella also seems to look down on Bridgette because she’s too happy and too nice

[@colakelvins]

Thank you for your service

[@xhielorei]

If i could change something would be making Maddox a teen and be Red friend, both go to Auradon (Maddox under the Queen of hearts orders to keep an eye on Red). And maybe add Aladdin's son as Chloe's friend? And these would be the main 4 of this new trilogy. Imagine Aladdin's son reaction to "call us jaladdin" lol. What i liked tbe most on descendants was the relationships and friendships, and this movie lacks that

[@KrytenKoro]

Yessssssssss its back we're back

[@KrytenKoro]

2:20 descendants: just as classic as star wars

[@KrytenKoro]

4:40 we're doing a Boruto!

[@KrytenKoro]

6:10 so wonderland didn't want to get annexed, so they blockaded it. Awk....

[@KrytenKoro]

8:10 "you make one dystopian prison colony and people judge you for it forever!"

[@KrytenKoro]

13:45 Red: your mom doesn't let *anyone* do anything fun

[@DSIrocker]

I love the movie so much and think it not only adds great new main characters but also is adding what seems to be good world building to the live action screen that is. Maybe bc I’m retired from my years and years of being a lore junkie for Star Wars and since COVID I’ve needed a new franchise to hyperfixate on all of its complicated and messed up lore, I’ve stuck to Descendants lol

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

21:28:,This is better explained by the fact that they cut a LOT of scenes from this movie! I also thought the pacing was off when I first watched the movie, I'm glad you laid it out and pointed out exactly HOW the pacing is off.

[@codeearth9820]

I would like to point out that Morgana does appear in Disney's The Sword in the Stone as that purple witch lady. But yeah, they should've totally told Merlin. If not for the time travel thing, then at least tell him that one of his students is gonna get really bullied! Your idea that Merlin should've been absent is a good one, and Ella being tricked into doing the prank is also a really good idea. It would make more sense as to why Bridget is so angry at Ella. Edit: oops, was wrong about the Morgana part, sorry

[@melanilei]

isn’t her name madame mim in that movie? it might be the same character with a different name but it’s still weird not to go with the classic disney version

[@codeearth9820]

@@melanilei Ah true, I haven't seen it in a while so I got mixed up, probably like disney since Morgie being connected to animals is definitely a reference to the wizard duel madam mim and merlin had

[@DarrianChamblee]

Am I going to watch a commentary video over an hour long on a movie I've never watched that's a reboot of a series of movies I've never watched? Yes.

[@DSIrocker]

I feel like Ella is manipulated by Morgie or Uliana that they can help her get to the dance if she does the prank. So Ella goes w the VKs to Castlecoming to do the prank but Ella dances w Charming and after the prank Bridget goes to find her only friend Ella who asked her to the dance dancing w someone else. Therefore primarily blaming and hating Ella. Also Uliana might be the one to manipulate the situation further and blame Ella, and later helping Bridget become a Villain.

[@SaoirseWaddingHayes]

I haven't watched the movie (I'm not really planning to) but I have unfortunately seen the Cursed Child in the West End (this was before JK McTerf outed herself as a complete fucking monster). And from your description, this movie is giving Cursed Child vibes. Like, that play is so infuriating because (despite the choreography and stage magic, which was genuinely impressive) it's actually TWO PLAYS, each telling HALF A STORY, so you essentially have to pay twice to get one, very long, very terrible narrative. Also, that play is all about time travel. Harry and Draco's kids go back in time to save Cedric Diggary's life (I can't remember why), and for some reason that means that the Death Eaters won the war??? So they have to go back in time again to fix things and it's just so fucking irritating

[@AllForHoney]

Hey I was wondering could you possibly do a deep dive into the Tinkerbell movies? I’m massive fan of yours and it would be much appreciated ❤❤

[@lizabey]

17:42 Aw, they totally do know it was her, and they're protecting Red because they know what the queen is capable of, even to her own family < 3 < 3

[@shmark77]

the wigs… i just.. cant

[@neivilde.1242]

I think they made uliana the villain instead of ursula bc we know how ursula turned out and they wanted an original character to do what they want with. Same for morgie. I think they should’ve kept that same energy with the other ppl in the crew, it’s weird to see the parents of kids we know be just sidekicks. They should’ve kept everyone as people we have no connection to imo

[@lauramathews3151]

I loved bringing back Brandi and Paolo. I hate that they didn't do Ursula like wtf? And I found the pair of actresses they chose to be young and old queen of hearts was an odd combo... both would have been fine individually but no resemblance....

[@lauramathews3151]

Could have been Scarlet or Ruby or a Carmine but we got Red.....

[@Beep974]

I actually see the resemblance between Rita and Ruby in their facial structure, something about their eyes and cheeks makes it work for me

[@Nevae_696]

Yeah they look nothing a like that was weird, she don’t even look like younger version of her daughter.

[@joey4grande]

omg i love ur videos

[@josf9616]

I agree that the message of the movie was really weird, really hammering that you shouldn't be a good person? That you should be a rebel and break the rules? Idk I didn't like that. But girl I looooove the Bridget sweet song 💕

[@joline3925]

Okay I've definitely seen this movie way too many times because I'm at a point where I've forgotten all my original complaints and feel like it makes sense when it doesn't. I think this is what the writers must have been going through. Looked at it for too long so they started thinking things were obvious and they could streamline the script and cut out important moments or something and now it makes no sense

[@sarahni]

I thought the twist was gonna be that since the book froze the VKs (and that would have happened anyway), it turns out they were never the ones to do the prank, that it was Ella, and that's why in the future she was like "It as a stupid prank" which was really dismissive of something that clearly traumatized this woman. As for my guesses on what they changed in the past, maybe something to do with Chloe's parents? I really have no idea

[@4kpiper]

MY PRAYERS ARE ANSWERD

[@joline3925]

19:50 I love the mystery outfit change lol. My theory is that they did that because they wanted the big dramatic red dress in the scenes that are coming up, but couldn't show her driving with that dress on because the huge heart shaped collar would block her view to her sides and behind. Also the hoop skirt would've been physically impossible to get inside that car seat without at the very least blocking her access to the stick shift. Idk if they had her actually driving for the scene and that was a safety precaution for that or if it's simply one of those "don't show realistic irresponsible behaviour" disney rules but it'd be unsafe to drive in that dress and I think that's why they kept her in the previous scene's dress until they entered the set where she HAD to have the big one

[@Louminosus]

Well, despite being a different timeline, I hate the fact they reduced the lore of most beloved disney classics to basically high school drama, but anyways, I initially thought they chose to create a younger sister for Ursula because we're in the period of time when Ariel was a teenager (same age as Cinderella and Jasmine I guess...) so Ursula had to be older (Ursula might still be Ariel's aunt and Triton's sister in this continuity, so they felt the need to make her older ?), however Maleficent and Hades are right there, implying Aurora and Hercules are more or less the same age as them :|, well... perhaps Hades is not actually a teenager but did some godly rejuvination whatever to date Maleficent in high school?

[@zac8707]

I think the original movie got away with these kinds of inconsistencies because the premise was already so ridiculous that it felt campy and fun. Like cramming a bunch of “lore” spanning thousands of years into a modern day movie is so silly that it worked. The past of the main characters’ parents was left ambiguous BECAUSE it was just too ridiculous to try and explain!!! But I feel like the lore of Rise of Red takes itself too seriously, adding siblings and creating their “own versions” of movies.

[@Louminosus]

@@zac8707 true also this Zellie + Chloe romance thing... she's what 25 years older than Chloe? Is Chloe staying in the past with Zellie? Is Chloe meeting 40 years old Zellie in her own present and make it super weird?

[@zac8707]

@@Louminosus I feel in the original series they were so desperate to pair everyone off in a heterosexual couple (which I didn’t like lol not everyone needs a romance plot line), but here they couldn’t even think of a queer love story without making it so weird and convoluted😭😭😭

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

19:53: The gospel part of Love Ain't It is amazing!

[@Deadspooky-Gore]

The "dont be such a princess" comment was most likely Ella saying that Chloe goes through life with reckless abandon because shes a princess and she has the money and privilege to not care about things and not worry about say knocking over a vase because that object means nothing to her.

[@DSIrocker]

Omg yes I read the Barnes and noble chapter at the store too LSJSKSK

[@carolkoski4875]

22:12 I actually preferred the pacing of this movie rather than the first Descendants movie, one of my issues with it is that it was way too fast. I like a movie that gives itself time to expose the story and get us acquainted with the setting and characters, specially if they're gonna turn everything upside down as part of the main conflict. It feels like DCOMs kept getting faster and faster as the years went in (Newsies which is kinda a proto-DCOM takes its sweet time, it's 2 full hours long, HSM is a bit faster, and Descendants 1 was like everyone needed to get it over with to take the next train), I'm glad rise of red moved away from that