Desert Brutality 2021 Day 2: Catastrophe and Redemption

[@fekberg]

Imagine if Ian took the MR73 revolver with the scope as his DMR, that would have been an alpha move

[@skoshman1]

I'm surprised he didn't

[@sorenlilienthal1368]

Let me put it that way: for the 600 yds shots, the FR-F2 was the smarter choice. The 8" barrelled MR 73 wasn't intended for long range work but precision shots at medium ranges like 50 m.

[@andreww1212]

Just like in Insurgency Sandstorm.

[@Javic167]

@@sorenlilienthal1368 you're new to the interwebs, right?

[@dr.pop2562]

@@sorenlilienthal1368 your new to what the GIGN used it for

[@barttorbert5031]

Glad Ian at least tried the revolver. Using "Forgotten Weapons" in matches shows how much progress (or lack of progress) has been made over time. Sometimes the oldies are goodies, sometimes not.

[@onpsxmember]

I think besides the necessary reloading, he just lacked time with the revolver. He loved it so much that he wanted to take it out on that occasion. A lot of the pistol poppers are doable. The spinner with a revolver is definitely extra brutal. I hope he gives it more time and maybe installs an optic on it to have some really cool videos. Lefty revolver chronicles.

[@notstayinsdowns]

I really enjoyed seeing the revolver action. Even if it was a fail on the range, it was a plus for the video.

[@Siskiyous6]

@@onpsxmember Spinners are a piece of cake using Double Action with a revolver, it is well known a DA fired revolver is faster between shots than autos.

[@MacDorsai]

@@Siskiyous6 If your name starts with Jerry!

[@someguy2741]

The manurin is not a "revolver". It is the ultimate revolver. Used by special forces until modern times.

[@giorgioaguzzi6842]

I have to be honest, I'm completely in love with the fact that Ian chose to use a revolver with full power cartridges, this shows how much passion he has for what he does, putting himself at a great disadvantage just to have fun and enjoy historical weapons, nice work pal, I mean it.

[@DerekIcelord]

That's the beauty of the Brutality matches. They're hard, but there's way more emphasis on fun and LARPing (for lack of a better term) with a themed kit than pure gamerism focused on the fastest time.

[@_f355]

that spinner with the DMR spun after the second shot, you can clearly see the red-colored back of it.

[@NickTronic96]

I rewatched it a couple of times, and I came to the same conclusion.

[@Glisern]

yep

[@PaletoB]

Yea, it's tricky in the moment but rewatching it Im 99% sure he did it in 2.

[@themeatpopsicle]

I'm going to trust the RO on this one. They were *actually there*

[@Sube-Tube]

@@themeatpopsicle you can clearly see it go over though

[@thisguy41487]

FR-F2= 100% accuracy this entire match. Need to keep that streak going for future matches.

[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

The thumbnail has some really good meme potential.

[@niccatipay]

We need the version without text so we can put new context.

[@d.unterreiner161]

Do It!

[@someguy7723]

"When you dont piss blood out of your ass"

[@TheArklyte]

Promotions?

[@christophbeckmann7281]

"When 32 French Long is back in stock"

[@eg2070]

Ian in french army uniform, a famas and a manhurin MR-73, the France is strong with this one.

[@VosperCDN]

Pretty sure I could hear "La Marseillaise" faintly in the background.

[@jonesclantd]

I'm an IPSC-revolver guy who has a few years of strutting a S&W 686 with factory .357mag for giggles at most of my local matches, and I gotta say: Ian, it's been fantastic watching you pick up the nuances of reloading a service revolver on your own. A nice reminder these guns can absolutely still keep pace when you make silky smooth reloads. As always, I appreciate that you like going to competitions with your own set of personal rules or unusual equipment for your own version of doing things on "hard mode." Things are more fun with variety. Fantastic job and footage as always!

[@daytonrobbins3361]

The pistol portion may have been excreciating but the FR-F2 ran amazing

[@tombaht]

Hi there Ian. First of all, i really like your channel and your videos. I'm from Finland. Your english is so easy to follow and listen, basiclly i understand everything you say, it's so clear. Thanks for that. Second, i really like the historic parts, with old weapons. Myself i have few guns, what i use for hunting. But the precious one is my Sako P54 .22 cal. It has serial number 102, so it's not that special, but from early days of that model. Still accurate like nothing, and i've been shooting with that since i was 7... Wich is 38 years ago. Anyways, thank you so much for this great channel you have, and keep on doing good work. Cheers, Tommi from Finland.

[@justindunlap1235]

these videos where you take interesting guns to different matches are some of the best videos you make. I especially love when you take weird guns to the B.U.G. matches.

[@Chasmodius]

On the Sniper Spinner, at 8:35, you can CLEARLY see the spinner goes over in only two hits, but the ROs didn't catch it. Still nice getting it in three (and it's not like it would have changed much overall), but unfortunate.

[@Glimpsedshow]

I have been watching your channel for many years (not always via my current youtube account) and enjoy and value every video you post. It helped make me wan to 'get into' shooting (I am in the UK so it's quite a challenge to own firearms here) however today I won my first service rifle competition with a Lee Enfield. Thanks so much for your channel. It's entertaining and informative beyond measure. Josh.

[@PlugLot]

Really nice angle on the Highland games -stage. Filming was rather good throughout all the stages.

[@daytonrobbins3361]

Forgotten weapons inrangetv and block on the range went in together and hired a videographer to film their respective runs.

[@ConcealedLiberal]

Stage 1 was definitely a complete bear and it was all to do with that dang rifle target and the way that virtually no match challenges your standing unsupported rifle beyond about 50 yards. More matches need to present deceptively difficult shots like that. I only needed 7 rounds of pistol for all 5 hits, but I spent 28 rounds of rifle for only 4 hits and par'd out with 1 penalty.

[@DestroyER82]

Oh, that prone position in dust against spinner is classic thing when one under clock and stress just keeps following the plan (even its bad one) and do not try to adapt to situation - go to barricade and shoot while resting on it. Nice match overall and thanks for sharing it. I think revolver overall wasnt that bad idea in the end, really great to see it performing in tough enviroment.

[@loganb.768]

I love Ian because he is real no matter what. He chose his guns knowing it would be difficult, struggled at times, but still just tells how it is and doesn't make excuses. Big respect to you bro.

[@BillyONeal]

The filming and red circles in these are excellent. In most match content we really have no context for what the stage even looks like but here it was clear, thanks! And even apologizing for the 1 out of 3 of these posted thus far where the spinner is visible at all for it being slightly hard to see: selling the video short. 👍

[@monkchester5962]

It's great to see Ian combining his love of French firearms with a homage to Captain Sensible . . .

[@davedave9552]

Such a good sport, makes watching these videos so wholesome. Ian is a good person and I wish the best for him.

[@ylismsa]

The dust reminds me of a time when the smoke from a gun made the targets dissapear. It was just a 6 shot 25 meter position but it became impossible to see the targets towards the end as the sun was in a perfect angle to turn the thin smoke into a brownish curtain. There was hardly any wind so the smoke wasn't either going anywhere fast enough.

[@medicineman6454]

Seeing you put all of your matches out, good and bad, and honestly owning it and breaking it down really gives me some confidence to go out and try some matches. I'm kinda terrified of looking like a fool, but everyone starts somewhere and the added stress seems like a great training tool.

[@Pienimusta]

Big thank you for highlighting the targets!

[@admiraltiberius1989]

Ian does indeed lead an interesting life......you could say he is the most interesting man in the world.

[@generalvictorironraven.1347]

If it isn't the master of the fleet himself. As I live and breathe.

[@admiraltiberius1989]

@@generalvictorironraven.1347 hail good sir!!

[@generalvictorironraven.1347]

@@admiraltiberius1989 Good tidings to Ultramar should you see your home again. The reef Stars send their regards.

[@admiraltiberius1989]

@@generalvictorironraven.1347 in honour and service to he who sits upon the Throne, we give all.

[@chrisspencer6502]

As an outsider looking into the American gun culture. These types of matches look fun and challenging. I get the feeling a 2k race gun wouldn't give too much advantage.

[@dootdoot6236]

there's a sort of bell curve on gear for this sort of thing. bad gear WILL hold you back contrary to what many people on the internet say. but you also get diminishing returns after a point- but you still get returns. the 2k race gun may not give much advantage here because this sort of shooting isn't what it's for, but you'd have a very big advantage if your gun had an optic and was light compared to someone using older equipment like heavy steel rifles and iron sights. kind of sad ian isn't using the WWSD rifle for this, as it seems like a perfect application for it, but i get that he's using guns he loves and it's just as cool to see these old french weapons get a last hurrah.

[@mcribbans3904]

@@dootdoot6236 well Ian said yesterday that he was in the cold war era for the weapon brackets so he could only use weapons made between 1946 and 1991 so the only AR's he could use on that match are the earlier m-16's and the AR-10. But yeah it'd still be cool to see a wwsd 2020 rifle competing

[@colbunkmust]

@@dootdoot6236 Karl from InRange is using his WWSD in the match and Ian already used his WWSD in previous brutality matches including the two most recent Finnish Brutality matches.

[@alun7006]

@@mcribbans3904 Watch Karl's run. He did it with his WWSD and it was very impressive.

[@dootdoot6236]

@@colbunkmust very cool i did not know that (i only follow ian, of the two)

[@captaindookey]

Ian has embraced the fact he has become a meme

[@kookwater456]

Thank you for sharing this amazing experience with us. Love from South Africa!

[@jamesbromstead4949]

"Qui craint de souffrir, il souffre déjà de ce qu’il craint." (He who fears suffering is already suffering that which he fears.): Jean de La Fontaine

[@MCXL1140]

The spinner actually went over after the second shot if you watch The Shadow. It hung at vertical, and then juuuuuuuuuust made it.

[@hoilst265]

"YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS HAAAAAAAAAAAA-HA-HAAAAAAAAA-still down range!" -Gun Jesus

[@crazypath573]

Great video footage, love to see over-the-shooter's-shoulder camera work. Best way to see these fine firearms in action.

[@oms8762]

These types of training exercises let's you know that actual war is no joke.

[@TraceyAllen]

This is the kind of shooting competition that I would be interested in. Looks so fun.

[@TheGM-20XX]

A FAMAS? who knew Ian was a Next Generation Special Forces Genome Solider?

[@phoenixdk]

We all knew.

[@mattfleming86]

Regarding the FAMAS.. The weapon itself is a great platform. For those difficult stages, I think we were seeing the difference in sighting systems between combat irons and modern optics.

[@jean-pascalesparceil9008]

For his next trip to France, the Army there should let him have a FAMAS surbaissé (lowered) that has two Pic rails.

[@davidkanengieter]

I highly respect your skill and weapon choices. You definitely chose a extra dose of brutality.

[@nwolinsP]

These events are not about winning. They are about improving skills and having fun.

[@PersonalityMalfunction]

Looking good rocking the French kit. You're even wearing the correct boots - very impressed!

[@clintlewry9806]

Ian totally looks like an early 2000’s videogame bad guy in the thumbnail of this video. And as always his content is informative and interesting, no surprises there.

[@danieljob3184]

If you want to pity someone? Feel sorry for the work experience kid who has to go out there with a metal detector next week & find all the dropped rounds among the spent casings! He gonna feel like Moses before he is done!

[@andrew1230981]

I do enjoy these post game commentaries but also when you highlight the targets.

[@Matt-xc6sp]

“.357 really doesn’t have much more impact than 9 parabellum” Boomers: REEEEEE

[@mattfleming86]

Not the way I load 9mm :-D Then again if I loaded 357 (and did it like I load 9) it would likely identify as a big game round.

[@gwood6252]

@@mattfleming86 Momentum and kinetic energy are different things.

[@possiblycrazy442]

"YEAAA- o_o Still down range!" -Ian remembering not to wave a gun around no matter how psyched you get.

[@Lindeman08]

I love that you're shooting what is fun rather than what is good. It's absolutely what I would do if I ever managed to get close to your level. But alas, I'm just this guy in Sweden who has never even fired a proper gun and will almost certanly never get close to shooting a brutality match. I do enjoy watching though.

[@jimmumford4444]

I enjoy your match videos because you use interesting firearms. Under pressure and on the clock points out the shortcomings of some guns. Glad you are not just a gamer.

[@colbunkmust]

I don't care what anyone says Ian, you finished first in my book for bringing the Manurhin.

[@johnchristopherrobert1839]

It’s really nice to see you using the iron sights on your rifle and pistol and a revolver too. Using the original scope on the DMR is a real treat as well.

[@Mister-Miscellaneous5227]

Dude i am diggin these matches, and the themes u throw yourself into, keep em comin

[@wbflashover]

I'm loving these shooting competition videos Ian.

[@davidkohler7454]

Wow I cannot believe the difference shooting the Famas from the bipod made over you standing free hand. I'm sure the kegel bell wore you out as well as the heavy trigger pull on the Famas, but those bipod shots were great.

[@algernonsidney3982]

Our Hero who seems to sport un treillis francais but has one glaring mismatch: his beret is incorrect. French berets come down on the left, not the right. - Un marsouin - ancien du 6.

[@caseywheelwright4769]

Maybe it's a left-handed beret

[@khaelamensha3624]

Oui repéré également mais bon une remarque du sous off et il est bon pour le service 😉😂

[@drdoom-skull2244]

Et deux doigts au-dessus des sourcils

[@cav89-]

Definitely, he’s wearing it like that because he is left-handed.

[@khaelamensha3624]

@@cav89- Nope got left handed buddies, got to put it on the right (French army) on the left it is the British 😉

[@johnhudson1545]

With his legitimate competition prowess, it certainly leads a lot more gravitas with his gun knowledge

[@jaye1967]

Ian demonstrating the benefits of prone and brace shooting over off hand. Also, you can see the profound effect of strenuous activity on accuracy. I'm guessing that running then shooting would be something that needs to be practiced a lot to keep proficient at.

[@barttorbert5031]

Ian using a revolver made me think that it would be very interesting if someone put on a Brutality match where only revolvers and single shot rifles were allowed.

[@trogdor8764]

Revolvers were designed to shoot a man dead, not send him tumbing head over heels.

[@richardpowell4281]

Maybe the greatest thumbnail I've ever seen

[@SKSSVT93]

I'm very happy to see content like this on your channel. Weird or odd guns at matches. It's what I used to love about InRange.

[@spd579]

Transition from the light weight single action revolver trigger, to heavy long drag trigger of the MAS223. Oy vei! Yet, I can say this, I could not do this match. I'm out of shape, bad health, and not that good of a shot. My compliments to you, Ian. Good show!

[@LivingDeadward]

some of those courses looked like a lot of fun.

[@MaximusOverhead]

This definitely proves that revolvers are out classed by modern options just on the reload aspect alone.

[@RA-ov5cw]

Really depends on the ruling. If it's a 25yard offhand 5 shots precision shooting contest I think a relvolver is the better choice but for a tactical type shooting competition yeah you're stuffed with that thing.

[@CertifiedIndustryProfessional]

< several people are typing > You’re not wrong though.

[@johnstacy7902]

I guess if you miss a lot....

[@matiasdiaz8913]

just like every rpg coolness > stats

[@Siskiyous6]

Ian is not even using the DA feature, and is not showing real dexterity in his reloads. It shows the revolver in Ians hands, not the full potential of the revolver.

[@madisbacks1945]

As someone who never fired a single bullet in my entire life, your gun safety awareness astounds me. Even during that moment of euphoria at 2:25 you remembered to point the 100% empty gun, without a finger on the trigger away from the bystanders. And let the guys around you know that you do.That's just brutal. Which makes me wonder: If you break safety protocols in competition such as these, will you get a penalty or just get disqualified on the spot?

[@notahotshot]

Disqualified for safety violations. They don't give you a second chance to do something unsafe.

[@madisbacks1945]

@@notahotshot Makes sense I suppose. Safety really has to be in your flesh and blood if you want to do anything gun related.

[@jamesellsworth9673]

You are a gifted marksman. I enjoy watching the reality of your shooting disciplines.

[@nandayane]

Seeing the joy in Ian’t face gives me joy.

[@tashkent561]

Hey Ian, since you have a thing for german prototypes and guns that look like they were made in outer space, I suggest you take a look at the PDSR-III revolver. Would love to see you have a breakdown of that gun.

[@fredericdeshautsdefrance3261]

Les armes françaises sont à l honneur, merci .

[@croncorcen]

I realy appreciate the highlights! thank you for the effort!

[@bgezal]

Ordinary shooter: I wish my targets would stay still so I can hit them. Ian with Famas: I wish my targets would move into my bullets.

[@scottmacgregor3444]

Well, that was some real highs and lows. Good job Ian.

[@j.m.f5451]

What a stunning performance with the DMR. Very exciting!

[@martinjones8503]

Great job, Ian. Can't wait for next year's DB vid(s)

[@MontanaCheeky]

Top notch range safety on this match.

[@fatttelmundo]

The footage looks great

[@robertibert9269]

Nice work, thanks for the video, it was fun to watch and your honesty is heart warming.

[@possiblycrazy442]

Thank you, Ian!

[@NA-nc5dg]

The shakes are no shit man. We did a battle march in basic for infantry school at Benning. I'm confident I hit nothing. We ruck/ran on a forced march 10 miles with 35-40 lbs of kit then immediately shot.

[@User_Un_Friendly]

At least Ian’s revolver didn’t have a S&W frame lock. The odds of THAT malfunctioning in the AZ desert was approximately 100% 😱😱

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , Ian .

[@StrangerOman]

Hey, 0 misses with FR-F2. That is a win for me. Good job, Ian. :)

[@williamflowers9435]

Oh Dear Lord… the spinner with a revolver 😱

[@viggenguy4411]

Stage 8 was by far my worst, unsupported off-hand pistol shooting killed me. Finished about a half second before the buzzer lol

[@TheArklyte]

Based on second stage with FAMAS where you had trouble with seeing the target, I'd say that the main problem for you was not the revolver, but the fact that you decided to go completely without optics on both revolver and rifle, meanwhile FR1 has you among stage leaders. Am I right to assume that stage leaders on stages where you had trouble had period optics on their carbines and sidearms?

[@ConcealedLiberal]

Part of the challenge at this match was absolutely picking up the targets in the first place, especially for anyone running irons or an unmagnified optic. Both my friend and I ran AK-74's, but he had a PU-1 on his where I was stuck with irons; it didn't retain zero (dials were loose) so he couldn't use it for the actual shooting, but what he could do is spot the target with the scope, then use that index with his irons to actually make the hit.

[@AmaraTheBarbarian]

@@ConcealedLiberal Does everything on the gun have to be period as well, or can you run modern optics in the older weapon brackets?

[@ConcealedLiberal]

@@AmaraTheBarbarian In Cold War division, everything had to be period-specific - the rules listed examples of very common period-appropriate scopes, but allowed for shooters to request a ruling from Russell or Karl on whether something was okay. Normally my AK bears an RS Regulate-mounted TR24 1-4x AccuPoint to increase my target ID capabilities, but that's woefully out of date for Cold War division, so I was stuck with irons!

[@AmaraTheBarbarian]

@@ConcealedLiberal Seems logical, I bet it's hard to find good condition optics as those periods slip further into the past

[@thagrifster594]

I can’t wait for Ian to get a IMI Galil in 7.62 sniper variant, which the French used as there DMR for a bit.

[@dave_riots]

The thumbnail is absolute gold.

[@user-yk7dc9hu2k]

The French aesthetic is just so badass

[@TheodoricFriede]

I think its really cool that he used the revolver. It's certainly more interesting as a viewer.

[@williamf5745]

A quick glance at the thumbnail had me thinking I saw Tim Kennedy! Love the channel, btw.

[@MacDorsai]

You proved in part that revolvers are just as good as a semi auto up to the point where you have to reload and that's why they are no longer in military, or for the most part, police service. I enjoy shooting a revolver and for civilian concealed carry, a J-frame in the pocket is a top choice for the niche of a gun you carry when you can't carry anything else. Like my 2nd wife, it seemed like a fun idea at the time despite the warnings from friends. I think you'd still have been within your French theme had you gone with a Beretta 92G (Gendarmerie) for your sidearm. But you had fun and that's what counts!

[@scratchfisch6425]

I'd argue that the time spent to reckock the action and reacquire sight picture between shots (in situation where shooting them double action is not an option because of range) is also a big disadvantage for revolvers. For Self Defense / Concealed Carry, that part is also probably less important, as you're unlikely to need to use your weapon at longer range.

[@randymagnum143]

They are equal in every respect, up to the point that a follow up shot is required. How easy would most of that been with a red dot 9mm?

[@admiraltiberius1989]

I know some military guys who preferred to carry a revolver as a last chance weapon vs a semi auto. Yes the reload sucks but as I was told if your using a pistol of any kind, you probably won't need to or get the chance to reload it anyway. The revolver doesn't have the chance of a jam like a semi auto which in that situation would be great.

[@randymagnum143]

@@admiraltiberius1989 I've seen revolvers tied up. If you maintain them properly, and it's something as robust as a service six or Ian's frog Ruger, its nearly a given it will work, but most s&ws and python I've ever handled that had actually been shot, were in need of tuning. Shaving lead is tolerable, but a fouled hand or bent ejector rod can completely stop you.

[@admiraltiberius1989]

@@randymagnum143 anything can jam, absolutely anything. That's a golden rule to remember. But a revolver, if maintained and serviced, is much less likely to then a semi auto as you said and noted. My duty carry Glock 41 is 98 percent reliable but sometimes low quality training rounds give it absolute grief and gum up the works.

[@GooseMugs]

You totally got the DMR spinner in 2 shots! Great job!

[@Ducaso]

Shout out to the FR-F2 carrying the revolver to the finish line.

[@someguy2741]

I think the spinner went all the way around before the last shot.

[@airsoftsam95]

The thumbnail is incredible by the way. It’s like evil mastermind Ian strikes again.

[@hunterraines7702]

Famas is so cool, great video.

[@briarus1000]

it was a good idea.. to watch from the warm glow if my computer. awesome video!

[@AlphaSierra375]

"It was not a good idea" haha sorry that happened Ian, I look forward to next years run!

[@keithplymale2374]

Had you had the A2 compensater with the closed off bottom and heavier .556 might have been easier on the FAMAS spinner. Wish I could afford one of those revolvers. Good show Ian.

[@RonOhio]

I was just re-watching some of the DB runs by various KZbinrs and had an idea for what I think would be an interesting video, Ian discussing the spinner from the point of view of an engineer, with some actual testing of various calibers to find the sweet spot. Karl has his trapdoor in .45-70, (he might have a .45-70 lever gun as well) Ian has his FR-F2 and of course both have the WWSD carbines. Would also love to see a comparison of a 9mm with 115 and 147g vs a .45 with hardball.

[@georgewashington7312]

Is it me or does Gun Jesus look like a young Shalashaska, aka Revolver Ocelot?

[@csabaweisz8791]

Well, he clearly acts like him, choosing a cool but impractical revolver over a semi-auto

[@christopherdrekr1078]

Very impressive shooting with the long range rifle in part one though Ian, for someone that frequently says they can't shoot long range every shot " HIT ! " Nice work !

[@benstoyles1297]

I love seeing the thumbnail for this vid pop up in my sidebar

[@eddielitter3445]

I love watching you in these events! :-)