Garmin Epix Pro vs Fenix 7 Pro // Which is the Best Garmin Watch for you?

In-depth comparison of the new Garmin Epix Pro vs Fenix 7 Pro covering the display differences, battery life, and more between Garmin's best sportswatches yet.
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[@DesFit]

Make sure to check out my full in-depth reviews of both these watches! Garmin Epix Pro Review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3KnaYt5fchsf5o Garmin Fenix 7 Pro Review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGHPc5JqgM6cbNE

[@gertwallen]

I decided for the Fenix, I go to the grocery store once in a while and I have peace of mind having a watch that will stay powered during the long wait line at the cashier.

[@davidc6640]

😂👍

[@mikehenkelman2111]

ROFL

[@riverstones-wd40]

😅

[@TahoeRnnr]

Went for the fenix 7 pro sapphire solar. Value the outdoor visibility & battery life more. Actually like the MIP screen that it doesn’t look like a phone screen and feels more like a watch. Being a paramedic I hope the ECG feature comes! Upgrading from the 6

[@dnice362]

Agree

[@OscarHernandez-xx2je]

That’s it. I don’t want a TV on my wrist. I think the ideal Garmin would be a Fénix with added ECG and make/take calls. Garmin do that and you have my money

[@ARonin-cq5zr]

​@@dnice362⁹⁹and

[@starpub1376]

Epix pro seems much better quality display and functions

[@binthegrove]

How'd you like, or how are you liking? ECG cool?

[@mikem4215]

Epix sapphire 47mm - went on a 10hr 35 min hike. Had multi band on entire time, used maps, gesture mode. Ended activity with 58% battery remaining. That is the longest activity I’ll ever do and epix did great

[@riverstones-wd40]

Hope you gave it a massage 🤘

[@dazewithadrian]

Before I would’ve gone with the MIP display on the regular fénix due to the extender battery life, but with these new advancements in battery life…I think I’m swaying more to the light side.

[@nuts77]

Been using the Epix for a year. It's a great watch but I've now switched back to MIP with the Fenix 7 pro now and very happy with it. Amoled is awesome when you're looking at your stats sitting on your couch :) but the wrist gesture was a real pain to me when running (and riding !). I find the improved, always on display on the F7 pro fills the gap and is more flexible in all use cases - even if less contrasty and saturated. So I guess I'm not an amoled guy after all :D

[@frankysour]

If they only did a 7x pro with plain gorilla glass and the new improved MIP... (I'll post this up to when Garmin gets sick of it and makes happy to have me shut up 😁)

[@georgiancernat]

I had the same reason annoying me with an Apple Watch Ultra 1st gen. Not to mention the poor battery of that one. So I decided to sell it and buy a used Fenix 6 but I fought priced 7pro and decided to get it for the touchscreen and upgraded things it offers. Used to have a touch Garmin a couple of years back and although I love the buttons, sometimes it’s really nice to actually have the touch for me.

[@Mdogbrown]

@@frankysour Isn’t that what the Fenix 7x pro solar is?? Do you mean titanium body with gorilla glass?

[@ChewieTomatoes1]

People on here acting like they go on adventures for more than three days 😂😂😂

[@ChewieTomatoes1]

Send me your Strava and let’s see it. 😂l

[@paranoidandroid77]

From the couch to the kitchen with high res emojis on the wrist.

[@atombomb6719]

@@paranoidandroid77 I make it all the way to the shopping mall on the weekends 💪🏽

[@frankysour]

@@atombomb6719 well sometimes I even visit 2 malls in the same day! Though I hate the solar panel on my Fenix 6x pro I can't deny it comes handy getting some solar charge while driving from one to the other...........

[@frankysour]

Interesting detail about preferring the analog faces on AMOLED and the Digital ones on MIP... I also find that true, and most probably it is because of the better resolution and color depth making the analogs look "real" on AMOLED, while the digitals on MIP give them old school digital watch vibes, as on a old casio or something... Interesting bit is that the more traditional style looks better on the more modern display, kind of counterintuitive but it's actually true in my opinion as well

[@fenixloder]

okey hear me out, i do not recommend an oled dispaly for this type of watches at all....why? because is a daily use, and for exercise you DONT want to be flipping your arm every time you want to see your watch in an intense trail run or marathon, you just want to see your info and not to do those kind of movements EVERY time you want to see your watch info, oled are great ( i have an oled tv, cellphone, switch,) i use everything oled but for an EXERCISE watch i will never ever use an oled, i preffer to see my info 24/7 and have more battery all the way. and add that OLEDS ARE NOT FOREVER, yes they burn (not like in the past) but they do and for a watch that you will be using 24/7 that is a very good point to consider, and they are not good for long use at all, ESPECIALLY in direct sun light!! worst enemy for oleds, so if you are going to use your watch especially for exercise i recommend you the fenix. the epix is more like....ok i look good but not an option for a real sport watch.

[@pepeto3311]

Very good, thank you.

[@spadbob24]

Not everyone has budget to have multiple expensive watches. People typically want something which can do little bit of everything

[@davidvitez9357]

I had fenix 5+, fenix 7 now epix pro an I never look back at fenix . I was saing the same as you until I tried epix. And yes, you're right, the display is visible 24/7, but the visibility is 90% terrible. Screen is dark, with faded colors. I live in Germany and the weather has been terrible for the past year. When running with the fenix, I sometimes had to slow down to be able to read. Yes, fenix is ​​better if you are outside from morning to evening somewhere in Nevada or Africa where the sun is non-stop. But just as the weather is bad, looking on fenix is ​​a pain in the eyes, so is it when working out in the gym. Sport is not only hiking and trail running. 90% of people don't go running when the sun is shining, but in the morning and evening.

[@alexandra-mariaciobanu5401]

Wow, thanks for sharing🤍just bought my 1st garmin, 7 pro, and now I am pretty convinced that I made the best decision

[@sasonbraha4599]

To me the MIP display is just better, I can just glance at my watch to see the time without any gesture (plus I like the way it looks without back-light). With an Amoled I'd have to turn on AOD and walk around with a flashlight on my wrist (and consume more battery).

[@vpnconsult]

I am the Epix Pro 47mm type of guy. Excited about the flashlight 🔦 and the improved hart measurements.

[@jgriffin411]

So I have the Fenix-6 Pro & also had the Epix-2 for several months. The Epix-2 got returned & I have 51mm Epix-pro on the way. The bigger, screen, battery & flashlight tipped the scales for me.

[@JeffSSartor]

My argument. If you are getting the 42mm size. It's gotta be a Fenix. If you are going 47 or 51, then it's gotta be an epix

[@kt9493]

Watched like 15 videos for the decision between the two. Yours was the best, most informative and professional although English is not my first language. Thank you! Opted for the Fenix 7 pro sapphire solar because I couldn't stand using my Apple watch without AOD. And the Epix with AOD has horrible battery life for a Garmin watch.

[@DesFit]

Happy to help. Enjoy your watch!

[@silversurfer5400]

beside the fact that there are many very useful information in this video i really appreciate how clearly you speak and how you manage to transport all the content to the viewer. great work

[@DesFit]

Glad to help and appreciate the kind words!

[@ivannorona9261]

Your videos are better than DC Rainmaker. He talks too fast! Gets annoying after 10 mins. You need to show more map usage though. That's the bread and butter of the watch. In my opinion.

[@matiosa-l1d]

Few thought about Epix 2 Pro 51mm vs Fenix 7x Pro Quick introduction: main activities are climbing, mountaineering, and ski-touring. Secondly, I am also running and cycling. What do I love in Epix? - AMOLED screen - colors and deep blacks and also contrast. I was looking for something like that! I thought that this is it! Then I started using it... and I noticed that some particular things are irritating me: -gestures - not performing perfectly, sometimes the screen was turned on when I didn't need it, and when I disabled them I had to punch the screen or press a button which was not so convincing in -particular situations during an activity or not during the activity (e.g. boring meeting and you would like to discreetly check the time :P) -gestures - lack of possibility to add them as a shortcut in the keyboard or to the action menu -when I performed an exercise indoors I did not need any backlight so the dimmed screen would be sufficient -when I was biking and put the watch on the handlebar the screen was dimmed and the visibility was much worst, so I thought - nice I have a beautiful screen for maps, but damn I am not able to check that :) The situation is much better when I was doing training in the evening. -I am not going to complain that AMOLED has bad visibility on a sunny day, because I was able to get any data that I needed, but worth to notice that MIP gives you better readability To summarize: -if you are going to use the watch as the only device to navigate/get training data during cycling - pls consider if Epix is a good solution for you -if you are a climber, alpinist, or skier in some cases gestures are also really not comfortable. I have a lot of situations when I just glance at the screen, so gestures are not an option. In the MIP screen in most cases I see everything which I need, only by minimally adjusting the angle of the wrist, in AMOLED in most cases I have to use gestures. It is not a problem but pls notice that if you would really like to perfectly fit the AMOLED to your daily routine you have to manually turn on/off gestures, always on display, etc. There is no scheduler to do that - gestures. There is also no option to make a shortcut for that. I can imagine using Epix as a second watch for my needs, but still, technology and current solution have some limitations, which I would like to highlight here.

[@Mdogbrown]

THIS! I am trying to make this decision right now. I currently have the Fenix 7 pro AND the Epix pro on my other wrist. I’ve been wearing them all day. I was actually surprised that I preferred the fenix 7 pro! The amoled screen is FAR superior with map details, HOWEVER I really don’t NEED all the details. I just need navigation. The fenix is just better when you’re hiking. It’s easier to see, I don’t have to exaggerate my wrist gestures. When I’m doing a class 4 I can just look over at the fenix. I imagine having the Epix and having to do gestures to get the screen visible lol. AND the fenix is always on. So you know, a month of battery always on. It’s a tough decision but definitely think about how you’ll be using your watch! I think I’m gonna sell both and get a Fenix 7x pro and be done with it.

[@2649]

Appreciate the input!

[@evilphuk]

@@Mdogbrownwhat did you end up doing

[@Mdogbrown]

@@evilphuk I sold the Fenix about a month ago and regret it. I kept seeing reviews where overall, the amoled was better in most scenarios. In my month of wearing the Epix pro 51mm, I’ve found I prefer the fenix. I’d say, yes, the amoled screen is better indoors, shade and night. But in all those scenarios the fenix was just fine. The deciding factor for me was the gestures become quite annoying especially in direct sun. I can read the amoled screen in direct sun, but I had to flick the wrist hard for gesture then really focus on the information. With the Fenix I NEVER remember thinking twice about seeing the info on my watch outside. So, what I’m saying is, when I need the information the most (hiking and being outside) the fenix has been better for me. I will end up selling the Epix and picking up a fenix 7x solar (non sapphire) because of less glare, less expensive and I put a screen protector on it anyway. Hope this helps.

[@Mdogbrown]

@@jamesconors88 Yes, I sold the Epix. Both the Sapphire and non sapphire models of the Epix pro and Fenix 7 pro share the same exact features. There’s a difference between sapphire models in the 7 (non pro) though. The Sapphire models have all the maps pre downloaded and have 32gb of internal storage I believe. The non sapphire models have 16gb internal storage and you just connect to computer and download maps. Other than that, no difference outside materials.

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Great review! I just ran a race in BRIGHT sunshine and the Amoled on the Epix Pro was perfect for me. Having been a HUGE Fenix fan for many years, I can't see that model even lasting now. The Epix is now the flagship Garmin IMO. The market for the Fenix is going to be so limited going forward - the vast majority never got close to using it's full functionality and bought it because it was "top model" - now it's not.

[@DesFit]

Thanks! I think there's definitely a need for MIP for certain use cases as well as just ones preference (especially based on comments on this video) and glad they still offer both options, but I'm on the same page as you with the Epix Pro. Hope the race went well, Mark!

[@MarkLewisfitness]

@@DesFit 40:10 Secs for 10k at 102kg - nice PB thanks! With regards MIP - I wonder how many people (with MIP displays) see AMOLED and just assume it won't match their rufty tuffty outdoor lifestyle - it's almost "too pretty" .....which I thought last year. I think a lot of people, if they use them side by side, will end up AMOLED - especially on a 51mm watch. It's simply very clear in 99% of conditions. Be interesting to know Garmins sales figures on these new units!

[@Str8Up180]

​@@MarkLewisfitness just ordered the Epix 2 Pro 51mm and I'm excited to compare it to my Enduro 2! I have a feeling I'm going to be selling my Enduro 2 😅

[@ro8inmorgan]

Finally someone, who mentions that the displays difference is not just about MIP bad but good battery, Oled good but bad battery. There is a lot more too it and MIP actually offers allot of advantages in many other ways other than longer battery life. This is really the best review I've seen thus far. Some people really don't seem to understand what their reviewing and basically just go for oled because it looks so shiny. But in the end of the day what use does a very nice looking screen has for use on a watch?

[@DesFit]

Thanks!

[@richardzhang350]

I totally agree!

[@frankysour]

Best Possible comment to the best Possible video on the topic, this time I am here not only to compliment Des but also Mr. Ro8inmorgan :) I personally absolutely do not need a crazy long battery life (though of course is a great bonus, admittedly) for my normal use, I would have no issues charging the watch even a couple of times per week, however I never went back to an AMOLED after trying my first MIP watch, just because I like it better, and definitely hate an active (meaning, light emitting) display for a watch, it just does not look right to me. But Garmin is actually killing the transflective ones by starting to only propose them with solar layer on top... I get that this is very cool and very useful for many people, but to me it's only making the screen appear duller and less attractive.

[@toneabet6252]

So what's the difference between the 2 screens?

[@DuKsOmI]

@@toneabet6252 it’s probably a good idea for you to rewatch the video, he’s mentioning several things.

[@MarGol990]

I decided to take the Epix Pro, think that amoled display is better than the solar function.

[@jeremy9071]

Same.

[@TheKandiman1]

Did you get from AMOLED what you waited?

[@MarGol990]

@@TheKandiman1 it's fantastic

[@danscoular]

Nice review once again, and a good idea to focus on this specific topic separately. I much prefer MIP in the sunlight, and in darker environments when night vision is important. I also appreciate a watch display that isn’t distracting.

[@DesFit]

Thanks Daniel and appreciate you sharing your thoughts!

[@maximeculea]

This is by far one of the smartest and complete comparaison between epix and fenix, thx!

[@DesFit]

Happy to help. Thanks!

[@ChadRex1]

Des- As always great review. Very informative. The best part of the newest Fenix 7 Pro is the improved MIP display, 30% brighter backlight. Too bad the Enduro 2 didn't have this improved display. I prefer the MIP display to the amoled. The battery from Enduro 2 with the improved MIP display of the Fenix 7 Pro would make the best Fenix yet. I guess i'll have to wait until Enduro 3 comes out.

[@catalinstavaru5355]

Thanks for the review ! All I wanted as an upgrade for my Fenix 7 was a brighter MIP display and a better HR sensor for weight training, it looks like Garmin could have easily called this the Fenix 8 since those are some of the most important components in a smartwatch. As for the MIP vs AMOLED, I tried both options over time and after the initial wow factor is gone, the MIP is simply much more usable, just glancing at the watch without a gesture is simply natural and a screen continuously emitting light becomes distracting for me and those around me especially indoors where I do spend most of the time.

[@AlumarsX]

Except the MIP display is a lot more jarring if the backlight does kick on (its not very readable unless its getting direct light) since it lights up the entire screen in an ugly casio way. The oled black levels really make it seem like the information just pops out. Just a thought

[@cherylparrish1179]

Will the Epix only work outside if we " gesture"? lol

[@Agustin23c]

Had an Epix Gen 2 for a year and I've now switched for a Fenix ​​7 Pro. I loved the Epix, but the gesture mode was sometimes a pain in the a*ss while running or cycling.

[@60beats44]

Thank you Des. So much time invested in creating your videos and with this one addressing thoughts of so many of your fans. How much less complicated was life back in the days when I purchased my Fenix 6 Sapphire. The Garmin range was far less diverse and there was no buyer’s remorse. I still don’t know if I will buy the Epix over the latest Fenix as an upgrade, but your video(s) and all of the comments are greatly appreciated. Born in the late fifties I remember monochrome TV sets and how content we were, compared to today to use an analogy. LED vs OLED, what size, etc. and showrooms full of side by side display models, leading to more uncertainty than decisiveness. I grew up in West-Berlin and remember talking to relatives on the other side of the wall. With them always carrying an empty bag, they joined each and every queue outside of any shop, being thrilled with whatever they would be able to buy. Not wanting to go back in time and rambling on a bit. Now, Epix or Fenix. Damn …

[@DesFit]

Great comment, 60 beats. It's astonishing the technology we currently have and how far we've come. We should feel fortunate that we have these first-world problems! :) Also appreciate the kind words - thanks!

[@myasochka]

In performance kayak community (eg surfski, icf kayak racing, etc) mips screen watch is the only option. You’d place your watch in front of you on the hull + hr strap on you. While on the water epix screen becomes unreadable bc of direct sunlight + black background + dimmed backlight + drops of water. I’ve got both watches and only take Fenix on water.

[@ted363636]

While I understand that a vibrant screen might appeal to many, let me tell those who can't decide between AMOLED and MIP, why I had to sell Epix and return to the dull Fenix: - I couldn't see seconds hand and every second HR reading without gesture and in recent years with Garmin I got used to it - While wearing long sleeve I thought that both screen and battery are needlessly deteriorating (AOD is the only mode I use as gesture is a huge step backwards in terms of functionality) - On sunny days I had to use gesture during activity/everyday use and with polarized shades the visibility was really bad - Turned off screen while laying on the table and constant dimming on the wrist simply pissed me off - I didn't see the benefits of solar energy while in the sun. I also think MIP is environment friendly as it will last many years while AMOLED will rather sooner than later get burn in.

[@amarshah3712]

I am trying to decide between the two watches your comment on always on vs gestures I think helped me a lot

[@Foyzur32]

I have both the tactix 7 pro and epic gen 2. T7 for flashlight use, but epix for everything else. Now the epix has the flashlight. I'm getting rid of both. Regarding the gesture mode... I switched the gesture mode off. Instead it uses a dimmer screen on stand by and brighter on gesture.

[@paranoidandroid77]

+1. Sent a 965 back for all you mentioned. I was lured in by the reviews, then the real world test was a train wreck.

[@luc7976]

Great summary. I also don't like that all data pages are inverted white text on black background. In theory they could add option to change that but seems they are concerned with burn-in (although maps are fine for some reason maybe since they move more).

[@antoinedg007]

None of both will tick all your boxes. Both have advantages and disadvantages. At the current state of technology, no watch can be built that unites the best aspects of both watches for every scenario. You will have to make a choice and accept compromises, unless you buy both (but you'll never wear both at the same time). My take is that of you're a person with an active lifestyle, go Fenix. If you're more of a fancy-watch-person, or like to have the most bright and shiny stuff available, and occasionally do some sports activities, maybe go Epix. To me the only real advantage of the Epix might be the map, at least now with the overlays. But then, if I really need a super detailed map, I'll take my phone with a much bigger screen anyway. At the current state of technology, I chose MIP for my watch. And I'm saying this even though I wear my watch 24/7 and also use it a lot for its smart features. And even if the next watch would have the same MIP screen as the Fenix 7XSS, which is not as visible as that of the Fenix 6, and reportedtly not as good as that on the new 7 Pro, I'll chose it anyway. But now I already know that the next generation will be even better than what I use now, so kudos for that. I returned my Epix Gen 2 after 2 weeks of usage without regrets, before getting the Fenix 7. I have never looked back. The amoled screen has too many drawbacks for me. Bad vision with some sunglasses, no real always-on display, nagging wrist gestures needed to activate the screen, the constant back-headed fear of pixel burn-in... I get it, there is a huge WOW-effect when you see that screen for real for the first time. But for me it disappeard very quickly after a few days, and it became annoying due the the things I mentioned above. Also, I found the map too detailed, and distracted me from what I actually wanted too see. For more details, as I said, I use my phone anyway. And I would also take my phone with me, even if I had an LTE version. Having a backup device is never a bad idea. I'm only interested to see how Garmin will go forward with both the Fenix and Epix lines co-existing side-by-side. I think it causes too much confusion, as one can tell by all the discussions about the subject, here and elsewhere. Before the Fenix 7 and Epix Gen 2 came out, it was already not always easy to chose between the Forerunner and Fenix lines, although these 2 were more clearly aimed at different types of people/athletes. Now with the Fenix and Epix, it's even more complicated, it seems. Especially with the Pro versions, where the "only" big difference that remains is the screen (both have flashlights now, and the battery on the Epix is much better than before). I imagine people getting both, and returning one of them. This can't be good for Garmin.

[@JohnnyGification]

I have a Fenix 6 and a Epix. You cannot beat the MIP display on the Fenix under the sun. The Epix comes close but not close enough. I still purchased the Epix. Damn you pretty amoled!

[@fendermon]

😂

[@talvien9061]

Something I have no one ever seen talking about is how long the battery will last overall. So with Epix consuming more power and therefore being charged more often, how many years will the battery stay above 80% capacity compared to the Fenix. I guess there should be some experiences with the first epix gen meanwhile.

[@dimi-88]

My Epix pro 51mm with all open it last 25 days man

[@R3zk0]

Whit AOD on?

[@fendermon]

No@@R3zk0

[@amanloomba6099]

I am so confused still . Currently have a fenix 6 but it’s been dying quite often now so need an upgrade. Epix pro is definitely tempting but I’m concerned that wow factor of the display will soon fade away and fenix 7 pro reliable battery life would be more usable long term. Also concerned about too much distraction from the amoled display !! I’m an average user (set on 47mm for sure) some time outdoors some in the gym a lot of time indoors ! HELP !

[@GR-sd4zw]

The issue that rarely gets discussed is the life expectancy of amoled v mip. Given the cost of these watches one should expect at least 10 yrs life. The burn-in issue of amoled leads me to the Fenix 7 Pro, unless I am mistaken. I suspect that most people who buy these watches have money to burn so life expectancy is probably not an issue……

[@niam550]

1 thing i know...solar is almost meaningless... it never extend the battery, with everyday use i only get 20 to 30 lux....and never ever i achieved 50, i live in hot sunny day

[@BT-lf6qc]

After seeing your review, Des, I'm going to go return my 7x pro and get epix pro 2...I got the 7x pro in thinking about the solar option...but the battery life between the two is almost identical...so why not get a much cleaner, brighter AMOLED screen like Apple and Samsung watches, but with all the bells and whistles for all the work out options garmin provides. I do want to say that if anyone reading this, i do believe in the sapphire version, so I plan to get that version of the epix watch...thanks Des for clearing it up for me..

[@PatrickBurnett-c4v]

Helped me decide between Fenix and Epix. Golf program dictates brighter display for texture! Done!

[@lazydaze3134]

Awesome review. It's the Epix 2 Pro 47mm for me. I just got mine in the mail today. Coming from the Descent MK2s I was kinda worried it would be too large. Happy to say it fits just right.

[@DesFit]

Thanks and enjoy!

[@jeremy9071]

Just got the Epix Pro 51mm. Coming from Galaxy watch 5 pro. Absolutely love it

[@d.k.4882]

Thinking about the same. Do you still like the Garmin? Much more sport and adventure capable than Samsung, but smart wise less capable. Isn't it a downside?

[@jeremy9071]

@d.k.4882 still love it. But also getting galaxy untra 7

[@Jinuyr]

I left my fleet of Samsung watches for the fenix 7x Pro Solar Sapphire due to the increased battery life. I don't consider myself to be very active but the amount of notifications I get yields only 5-7 days worth of battery life on a default configuration of the fenix watch. Overall, it's way better than having to charge my watch on a daily basis and miss out on important notifications.

[@anthony-us3pn]

This video, along with your in depth reviews really helped me make my decision to go with the Fenix 7 pro. For me (migrating from older Apple Watch) battery life was key as I was sick of losing charge by end of day, earlier if a heavy workload day. The advantage of better screen was in my opinion limited based on the fact I have a phone with me most the time which is always better vs small screen on a watch. Thanks so much for your videos - really helped me navigate the options.

[@AHungryHunky]

Im with you there Des, I'm starting to lean more toward the Epix 2x Pro as a prefered upgrade. I prefer MIP, but the routable mapping is the main reason I bought a Fenix 6x over other options, and the reason I went for the largest size. The Epix 2x with AOD on has such a similar battery life to the Fenix 7x that its less of an argument. The more detailed maps will go a long way when Im out and about, and I really like its stock watchfaces, they seem more adventurous and less like a sportscar dashboard like the Fenix faces do. That said, I will absolutely miss the always on display and how much easier on my eyes the MIP display is. Its definitely a "go and try them for yourself" scenario. I do think the Epix will struggle to see the predicted battery life though, if you interact with your watch a lot, similar to a phone, constantly waking the watchface will drain its battery much faster than predicted, where as the Fenix being always on will make no difference and have a more predictable battery life.

[@mobbniggazz]

Thank you for your comment. Couldnt choose actually epix pro or 7x ss now clear for me its 7x

[@dr.emilschaffhausen4683]

The screen looks great, but the difference in battery life is substantial, and that was the tipping point for me. I wear my watch all the time, and only remove it to charge it. I didn't want to have to take it off and charge it every other day.

[@AHungryHunky]

@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 I actually got to play around with them both not long ago, and decided on the Fenix myself. There isn't anything terrible about the Epix, it's just seeing both displays side by side I prefer the MiP on a watch, it's much easier on my eyes. Like I said in my original write up, I like the Epix native faces more, but the Fenix doesn't have bad faces and the display is more pleasant to look at for me. The super high contrast on Amoled is actually kind of straining to me, but my job involves staring at screens all day so that may be a factor to me. Now to wait on a 40-50% off sale. Any time now, any time.

[@TheNinjaman16]

Thanks for all the info, ive been on 2 month long camping excursions and really am looking for possibly one of these but im having such a hard time to decide which one. Even after the video, i still cant tell.

[@trannel73]

I would love to love the Epix technology, because of the wonderful color contrasts. But I’m too scared about the fact, that the display is often just a black circle on my wrist :D Help!

[@DesFit]

It has an always on display mode which doesn’t turn off the display entirely

[@trannel73]

I bought the epix pro now. And I’m super happy with it. The 10d battery mode is wonderful and sufficient. I’m in love with the accent colors and rich details of the higher resolution 💯❤️

[@soundmeester]

Thank you very much for this great overview. Your videos are very helpful to me the last years. I am using the Epix 2 for almost a year now and I like it very much. On the other hand I like the new Fenix Pro as well so I decided to order it and use if for the summer months and outside and I will keep the Epix for winter and inside. 🙃

[@cherylparrish1179]

Great idea.

[@v.6ak]

I would oppose about the effect of solar charging with AMOLED. This would be true if Garnin used the very same technology for both, but I expect solar AMOLED to be much nore efficient: 1. Transflective screen already tries to utilize the incoming light. When we add a solar layer, it reduces the kight reflected by the screen and makes it darker. 2. AMOLED doesn't utulize the light on its own. Also, there are transparent AMOLED screens, so that they could put solar layer *under* the screen, without any negative impact on visibility. IIRC, Garmin tries to go a slightly different way, but I expect good efficiency anyway. That said, I still like transflective screens, but I have to admit aome advantages of AMOLED.

[@bsmukler]

I’ve used the Fenix/Tactix series for years and currently have the 7X Sapphire Solar. The 51mm Epix Pro is arriving today and I am looking forward to comparing the screens indoor and outdoor, just as you discussed. For me, the inclusion of the 51mm size option and the serious jump in battery life, as well as the flashlight, make a huge difference from the Epix/Epix 2 options previously available.

[@Utahguy906]

What did you find out?

[@bsmukler]

I’ve found that, in almost all lighting situations, the Epix display far exceeds that of the Fenix 7X Sapphire Solar. If you try specifically to arrange for sunlight shining directly on the displays, the Epix is slightly subdued but still fully readable and actually about the same brightness as the Fenix. Also, the estimated battery life of 11 days with always-on display and around 1 1/2-2 hours of GPS activity daily is right on the mark. In fact, it seems to be slightly better than estimated. Bottom line: the Fenix still has the crazy battery life (usually 20-some days for me), but the new Epix Pro (51mm) has battery life that is easily sufficient for almost all circumstances. Hope that helps!

[@SarahNyman84]

@@bsmukler THX!! That made up my mind, I think... First reading people not seeing the Epix display at all, or having big "problems" with it "on the run" made me lean over to Fenix, but I suppose they have used the timeout function and do sports where they need to see the screen really fast... If I´m a hobby runner, hiker, workout and "every day life" - user, I should be satisfied with the Epix right? I have the Fenix 5XS today :)

[@bsmukler]

Yes, and in fact that’s what I have found in using the new Epix. It is perfectly usable in direct sunlight and it is rich and easily readable in most light. It’s a simple matter of which way your wrist is facing when you glance at the watch. Another pleasant surprise is that the battery life is excellent (at least 11 days with always-on and multiple GPS enabled workouts per week).

[@cden-ec7cy]

Are you still happy with your Epix and visibility? What about night sleeping? I also have a 7x and looking to order epix pro. Thank you

[@spinnekopje]

While the amoled display attracts me a lot because my main use is also maps, I don't think I will switch over. I don't like bright displays and I notice that during night the display can already feel bright to me. I have my fenix 7x for a little over a year, so I won't buy another one soon, I'll wait at least until the next release. I guess they would also need a handle bar mode on the epix versions before I can even consider an epix. I've read multiple times that the screen goes very dim or off when on handle bars or similar and I do use the watch that way while cycling longer trips (I don't have a bike gps). I must say I'm curious about the usage of the solar for the backlight on the fenix, that might be a very good option for me.

[@Niteor52]

je confirme : epix impraticable en mode carto sur un guidon . j’ai revendu la mienne pour une fenix 7 a cause de ça

[@fendermon]

Epix would be totally annoying on handlebars. The screen would constantly be shutting off. On wrist it's fine for me when bike commuting.

[@jarethpalmer8672]

Thanks for the great video. Seems like for me I'll just wait and see which gets the better deals in the coming holiday season, they seem pretty balanced with pro's and cons.

[@bobby4500]

MIP Display is the only reason for me to go with Garmin. I dont understand why I need an amoled display on my watch and lose battery life and always on display.

[@braddavister137]

I had the fenix 7x and got sent a 7x pro because of a warranty issue. A friend from work bought it so I could buy the epix pro 51mm and for some reason I’m having a hard time and am wishing I kept the MIP display. The amoled display is beautiful but still love the MIP in full sunlight more

[@HeyImRod]

Very insightful, thank you. I went for the Fenix 7 Pro.

[@DesFit]

Happy to help. Thanks!

[@davidparrish2100]

I have been a Fenix faithful since the 3. The reason that I watching your video is because amoled has caught my eye. I love the vivid colors and how it just pops. My7X solar is still relatively new so struggling with spending that kind of money but tempting.

[@rabomarc]

Still using Fenix 5. Fenix 7 was the 1st generation I seriously considered upgrading to. Now it’s even more tempting.

[@Wellness-Wealth-Wisdom]

I upgraded from Fenix 5 to now the Fenix 7 pro. 🤯

[@shembreakey]

Epix Pro 51mm as 11 days always on and proper torch make it a no brainer IMO!! (along with the far superior display)

[@juicev828]

Thinking of upgrading from the 955 solar to the Fenix 7 pro. Wanting a more premium feel on my wrist.

[@Belgarathe]

Had originally the fenix 3 and didn’t love the display. It was great outdoors when it was sunny. But indoors it wasn’t great. I would say if you using it as everyday watch or you find yourself mostly using it indoors or cloudy/dark times then epix is the way to go. If on the other hand the longer battery life and your primary racing in the day in a set course the fenix can’t be beat. Don’t get me wrong both can used for both cases. Also for me I find the red shift much less disturbing for my sleep than the light of the fenix to read the time. I also love the built in flashlight that I thought was a gimmick at first. Using red flashlight allows me to quietly get ready for run or restroom without disturbing anyone. Family actually thought I had skip a training day.

[@Speoneshot]

Exactly the kinda comparison I wanted. Great ! Many thanks. Fully detailed review, good job.

[@DesFit]

Happy to help!

[@liliakilmer9773]

Fenix 7 S Pro Sapphire Solar for me: i have less battery life because my watch is smaller so i really can't justify the waste of an amoled screen. My wrists are 145 mm, there's no way i could do a larger watch.

[@nieval8917]

Great video as usual. I like the benefits of MIP but on the fenix 5 it's so grainy I find it off putting. Does the screen on the fenix 7 pro look similar to the fenix 5?

[@richardsweeney6317]

I jumped in today and purchased the Epix 51mm sapphire. Can’t wait to get this watch. I currently have the AW ultra so I will be interested to see how much better this is for fitness as I love AW as smart watch. Great video 👍🏻

[@andreaspape8987]

Will you keep/use both?

[@richardsweeney6317]

@@andreaspape8987 probably keep both for a while but I can’t be dealing with two watches so I will decide which one to keep in time.

[@MiegmaishMenas]

@@richardsweeney6317 very curious of your experience. I switched from Garmin to Apple when AW6 released, because of the integrations and because AW gave a more predictable battery performance (garmin would hold for a week, but would drain 50% with one workout, so I would avoid tracking unless I just charged the watch), AW I just charge daily. Now I switched my bike computer to Garmin and took out my garmin watch for the HR broadcast as the AW broadcast functionality is clumsy. This brought me back to Connect and the recovery timers, steps etc. As apple and garmin share data only one way this feels like missing out on part of the garmin functionality. But I’m not a super athlete, I don’t go into too much data on my computer. So I’d probably benefit more from the apple watch as a smart watch with some fitness tracking. Would just love native HR broadcast and daily activity/workout import into Garmin connect.

[@sandwaves5642]

Great review / comp.... Just like to point out : unless one has an almost perfect vision - the map details are virtually, USELESS on both of the models. The maps are SÅ TINY, that I, personaly, use a prhone, or a dedicated navigaing device - even with glasses ( for good portion of the info )..... AMOLED is niser to look at, but if the info is, anyway, sent ( for working with / analising... ) to the phone / computer - then, the display has a selectable / limited usability ( you don't STARE at it allll the time, afterall ) 🤔🤔

[@_J.F_]

I just bought the Fenix 7 Pro. I was sort of halfway thinking about getting the Epix Pro but at the end of the day I prefer the extended battery life as well as the less bright watch face of the Fenix 7 Pro. I previously had the Fenix 7 and I have never found myself in a situation where I could not see the screen when I wanted to. I set it up to turn on the wrist gesture automatically after dusk and the backlight to either 10% or 20% and that works perfectly fine. Most of the time I tend to use the watch outdoors for running in the daytime, and even on a grey and gloomy day it is crystal clear. I never regretted getting the Fenix 7 instead of the Epix 2 and I am sure I will not regret getting the Fenix 7 Pro instead of the Epix Pro. At the end of the day it is, however, really just about preferences regarding screen brightness and battery life as the watches are otherwise nearly exactly the same.

[@wyim3677]

Hands down, Epix Pro 51mm because I can still get 31days of battery life by turning off the always-on display. I use to have the 47mm Epix Gen 2 and I thought the battery life was good at 16 days with the always on display set to off and I was concerned the 51mm might be too big for my wrist. However, after having the 51mm Epix Pro for the last week I'm very happy with my choice.

[@alexanderwarden7649]

how large is your wrist?

[@Victor_679]

How often you charge your Epix 2 pro when your watch maximum or middle in use ? Want to buy one of these two to upgrade my Fenix 5x. Thanks.

[@marcofioretti5691]

I love the efficiency concept of the fenix’s display, even if I don’t come close to ultramarathons, sky running etc

[@powerwindpro]

Have 2 watches is the solution.

[@xKrafty--]

The backlight at 8:07 on the F7 Pro looks really faded, kinda washed out

[@boombeef]

I'll get solar panels to recharge my Battery pack that can recharge all my devices while out in the boonies. Just gimmie my Oled display. My eyeballs are much happier that way.

[@jeremy9071]

Agreed man. That mip is archaic

[@Alistair_Spence]

Great video, super helpful. One thing I was wondering about was if the solar charging capability on the 7X Pro dims or in anyvway degrades the clarity of the screen? I currently have a 6X Pro, which has been an awesome watch for me, and the screen clarity is decent/ok but I wouldn't want it to be any less readable due to the extra solar panel layer. Is this an issue at all with these solar watches? Thanks.

[@PWCDN]

I still use 1080p for everything. Unless you do a side by side comparison, you wouldn't notice much of a difference. If it gets the job done, it gets the job done. Less is more. Sounds to me the Fenix 7 pro is still the ideal choice.

[@gertwallen]

Fenix 7 Pro all the way, I'm training for a marathon and if all goes well I'll complete 42K in 25 days, so I need good battery life to last until I reach the finish line.

[@gertwallen]

Fenix hands down, need good battery life for my long journey from my room to the restroom and back.

[@MagnanimousWaffle]

Thanks for the video. Lots of info, clear, concise and easy to digest -- For me I will go for the Fenix 7p -- I like the MIP screen and better battery life. Plus it is $100.00 cheaper compared to the Epix 2p.

[@DesFit]

Happy to help. Enjoy your watch!

[@Matt_M516]

Many thanks DesFit for this great review and for your other watches video reviews. I'm new to sports watches and Garmin. Decided on getting a Fenix 7 Pro! So far I really like it! Very impressed. I prefer the MIP over AMOLED at moment for a sports watch and a watch in general. Thanks again. :)

[@Asthbendriel]

6 days with AOD it's good enough for battery, is what I get with my typical usage with my current watch, and that is a MIPS display 🤷‍♂ my only concern is display burning after several years of always on AMOLED and the viewing angles for some sports. I do mountain biking, 5 to 8 hour rides every weekend and to be honest, I am not entirely sure a low AOD AMOLED serves as well as a MIPS display in such scenarios when you just glance for a spit of a second your watch on an angle, what are your thoughts on that?

[@boyanbc]

And I went for... Marq Athlete Performance Edition. the perfect Garmin watch for me personally. Yes, the old MIP non touch screen display. I went to see the Epix and Fenix 7. Hands down the Marq is in a class of its own by build quality. The MIP is amazing in my view. It has all the sensors I need and more. For the rest I have my phone and the Garmin Connect app. Oh, and the huge discount I got (brand new) brought the price down to that of Epix 2 Pro. Honestly, the Marq wasn't even on my radar, but I did put it on my wrist in one shop and I couldn't stop thinking of it until I bought it last month. So thats that.

[@dariuszlis4412]

I just wondered why Garmin can't improve the resolution of MIP. I have a epix 2, previously had a Fenix 6 and really liked that specially outdoor. Im sure they could improve the MIP technology. I like the new watch faces on epix pro I hope mine will get some update soon. I was jealous to seeing the flashlight on new epix pro but still happy with my epix 2 . Thanks for good review as usual, regards .

[@Anuj_Tomar]

Having owned multiple AMOLED watches in past, i will choose MIP/transreflective display anyday, battery life + easy readability over eye candy anyday

[@bufferino7880]

My Fenix y Pro Sapphire is still going strong. But if it dies soon, I probably will get the Fenix 7 Pro 47mm. I don’t need the AMOLED. I honestly want an Instinct Solar 2X Tactical due to the infinite battery life and flashlight. The flashlight being added to the 47mm models makes me really hope the Instinct 3 has the flashlight on the medium size. I just don’t want the X size but I really want the flashlight.

[@Shawn-ky2tw]

Oh Man. I was saying over the past year after having both a Fenix 7X and now Enduro 2 and trying the Epix 2, that if Garmin made the Epix in 7X size, I will 100% take it and not return it. I love the screen but the medium sized 7 screen is too small for me. That .1" makes a big difference, the screen and now the battery in the larger Epix size is much easier to live with! PERFECT WATCH!

[@ben7785]

If Fenix 7X Pro can fully depend on solar charging ie unlimited battery life, I’ll pick 7X Pro otherwise I just ordered Epix Pro 2 Sap.

[@asaito2612]

Thank you so much for your review and comparison videos. Being a hiker and trail runner, I was definitely curious as to how topographic, relief, and weather maps would appear in both the Fenix 7 Pro and Epix Pro. Needless to say the Epix Pro is the winner in my book and the customisability of settings between all or specific activities vs general usage aids in being able to tweak battery usage.

[@DesFit]

Glad to help 👍

[@DJGarcia]

Another trail runner and hiker and the maps are a big plus. Was also on the fence and love my Fenix 6X but think the Epix is a great upgrade. Red shift for night hikes/runs is another big plus. Thanks!!

[@302daddyd]

I'm at a crossroad. I had the 7X SS and bought the 7X Pro but decided to switch after a week of using it. Now I'm having second thoughts because the Epix Pro 51mm is having a gesture issue. When I'm not doing anything and just sitting down it works fine. When I start walking, it doesn't work that well, alot of times I have to hit the button for the face to turn back on. Is this normal for the Epix Pro? It's really annoying me to a point I'm thinking of going back to the 7X Pro because when I want to see my watch face, I want to see it and not fight with the watch.

[@EricB03]

Outside of indoor/outdoor how are the buttons on Epix?? I have always had Fenix and tried Epix 2 last year and button were like FR and no real click. Did the make the like Fenix or still like FR style??

[@cr8244]

Epix for me this year. Time to sell my fenix 7X SS

[@TheMinuteman1964]

I don't think I will know which watch I will buy until I pull out my credit card........tough decision!

[@corytheobald2166]

This is a great video. I'm currently agonizing over the 51mm Fenix 7x Pro or the 47mm Epix Pro...I think if I'm being honest I like the display of the Epix much better, but both are fine. My hang up is I can buy the larger Fenix or the mid-size epix for the same price thanks to some of these Black Friday deals, and that' price is my limit (51mm Epix is just a touch too much at $870+ after sales tax). I'm not sure if I'd rather have the screen I can live with but the bigger, slightly cooler-looking watch, or the one with the better display. Such a crisis for this coddled man. I love how you've laid things out for us. Great job and it does help much, so thank you! Now don't even get me started on how much I love the Instinct line but just can't because my old man eyes are going bad ;)

[@2006mrderrickh]

What did you pick?

[@corytheobald2166]

@@2006mrderrickhI ended up picking the Fenix 7x pro - just loved the size on my big wrist and do like the MIP display despite it being a bit dimmer indoors.

[@starkestrength9273]

I had a Fenix 7 Pro for a week and traded it in for the Epix. Loved the vibrant screen on the Epic. Turned "always on" off and I use my HRM 5x a week for about 60-90 min a day and record workouts to the watch and it still lasts three weeks! The "red shift" is an awesome feature for darker settings.

[@pawelbochenek4446]

Did you tested how much time is required to fully charge epix 2 pro vs fenix 7 pro? Does any of them have fast charging?

[@druidsongevergreens]

Iwant the map clarity of epix with the sleep display of fenix ;?

[@Mdogbrown]

Is the solar only version slightly better to see than the sapphire?

[@Foyzur32]

I have the tactix 7 pro and the epix. I'm selling the epix for the epix pro, just for the light. Will keep my tactix 7 for the rare long treks...

[@MolocHlevel30]

why is no one talking about battery capacity? With frequent charging, this will drop to 80% very quickly with such a small battery.

[@DesFit]

That’s only something that can talked about after years of use

[@mikeli20002000]

I really hope Garmin can improve the MIP tech. I like a watch to look like a watch. Watch with AMOLED display look like a toy to me. That's why I like Kindle rather than Tablet.

[@acanfield87]

Thanks for objectively comparing the differences here. I'm also liking the looks of the AMOLED display on the Epix Gen 2. I'm worried about the battery life for general use, though. Charging more than once a week with several runs might get annoying. But it looks like that might be manageable through the Epix display settings, though.

[@syntheticjuice9279]

i like the mip watches because with their long battery life, you can usually just get away charging it 15 mins a day while you shower and have it on your wrist for the rest of the 23.75 hours, esp for sleep tracking. Not sure if the amoleds can do that while always on, though its getting close.

[@lazydaze3134]

These are not Apple watches. Both can go over a week or more without charging with aod on.

[@jeremy9071]

Been wearing mine for 36 hours. 95 percent left. Good for me. If I need to. I'll pop up my solar panels. Recharge the brick

[@FirePrank6]

I binged your videos last couple days trying to decide my first smartwatch, I ordered the 42mm Epix Pro. Smaller watch is just noticeably more comfortable everyday for me and decided the battery life doesn't bother me because my phone is always going to need charging first, and during my backpacking trips it can sip on a battery bank at camp. I do a lot during the night where the AMOLED is preferred, as well as I suspect I will use the Maps/Navigation features more than any of the sports features, which I'm still skeptical of. It shows up today, thanks to you and DC Rainmaker for doing these videos.

[@DesFit]

You're very welcome. Enjoy your new watch!

[@纐纈正明]

日本語で申し訳ありません。 fenix7xproとepix proを両方使ってみての感想ですがもっとメーカーはディスプレイの特徴やユーザーの目的に適した選択方法を提示すべきと思います。 fenix7xproはアウトドア、スポーツ中心、epix proはビジネス、スポーツ中心とありますがこれだけでは不充分です。 画面が素晴らしいepix proは売れると思いますがもし登山に行き登山アプリで地図を使えばバッテリーは51ミリでも3日しかもちません。　しかも晴れた明るい日は地図がとても見づらいです。　つまりepix proはアウトドアには向いていません。　それをビジネス、スポーツ向けというだけでは説明不足だと思います。

[@justinf58]

Great review! Thank you for helping me decide. I appreciate that you also give your honest conclusion at the end of the video. Because I like the ability to use maps the Epix is a better choice for me. I also don’t feel the selling point of solar makes a huge battery life difference.

[@DesFit]

Thanks and appreciate you sharing your thoughts!

[@VinayMenon-YT]

I am trying to decide between 47 mm and 51mm Epix Pro. Am leaning towards the latter simply for the longer battery life. The only thing I am unsure about is the size of the watch. I currently switch between the Epix Gen 2 and the AW Ultra.

[@lifeofkoda6157]

Im in the same boat i have the epix 47mm but dont know if i want the pro 47 or pro 51mm.. the more battery life of the 51 is pulling me but idk how would be on my wrist.

[@DesFit]

If it helps, I have a 185mm circumference wrist I tend to prefer the 47mm case size but can still wear the 51mm without much discomfort. The only time it bothers me is while mountain biking where it sometimes hits my wrist bone due to the rough terrain and I also occasionally notice it while sleeping.

[@Niteor52]

j.adore l’epix mais pour un usage sur un guidon de velo (cartographie) la carte s’estompe trop vite et devient illisible. Donc ca sera f7 pro

[@Bendysser]

Just snatched a "used" Fenix 7 Solar Sapphire for ~500USD. Great upgrade from my Fenix 5 plus. Would definitely not be worth getting the new 7 pro instead - but I will miss the flashlight...